Conquest General Discussion

[pallid hedge]

That's a lot of CAPS there

[night minnow]

Stand Ready For My Arrival Worm

[lean laurel]

Dude I love this ma

[paper mantle]

Just getting off work. I'll try to be active here as much as I can

[tepid charm]

Conquest is definitely gonna be my team's anchor

I already labbed him a bit and he's fun

[lean laurel]

Oh my god I love this man

[worldly idol]

Anyone got some starter combos with him? Im thinking bout adding him to my omni and beast team

[lean laurel]

If i'm right, down special, down heavy X2, repeat

Conquest will repeatedly slam the opponent into the floor

[worldly idol]

just been messing for like an hour found like 90% life combo

uses all 3 characters but eh its cool

[pallid hedge]

That's a lot of CAPS there

[void pivot]

https://youtu.be/hVfKRNPUgi4?si=et0f0f1wQ7ONHAf4

[vale prairie]

https://medal.tv/games/invincible-vs/clips/mCwBjR8wMnw6msoJh?invite=cr-MSxRQUIsNDQ1MTI3MTYz&v=17

[vale prairie]

stolen from this

[agile talon]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-true-conquest-conquest-true-conquest-gif-18084577569699045071

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-job-invincible-conquest-conquest-invincible-gif-2710119992545444545

[shut ledge]

How do I headbutt 3x in the air, can’t figure it out saw someone do it

[hollow gyro]

Is this guy a little busted right now?

[proven frigate]

[agile talon]

A lot busted

[last turtle]

Boost

[fast timber]

Carl skin would be peak

[trail cedar]

who would pair well with anissa + conquest as 3rd

[agile talon]

do you want range?

[trail cedar]

Yea

[agile talon]

could do rex or cecil

[lean wedge]

do you all play conquest in 3rd position?

oh sorry for the notice my bad

[near sable]

I use him in first, does that work

My main team rn is him, Cecil and Allen

[lean wedge]

prolly does i put him in third because i feel like he benefits a lot from having a lot of super bar and boost

• he is the one a play the best so i rather have him in last

[lean wedge]

cecil seems fine in first spot since he is playin in range imo

so you can temporise better with him

might not be true but it feels like it

[lean wedge]

you can boost your normals too?

[trail cedar]

Ive been using him 2nd and 3rd

still trying to figure out who i want to be on the team

[lean wedge]

same

[lean wedge]

i like thula a lot

and third idk

allen omni man anissa or invincible

[last turtle]

yeah

i mapped my boost to r2

[lean wedge]

ah ok i didnt know thx ill try that

all the normals or justvthe one you can charge ?

[lean wedge]

i mapped it to r1 and r2 for the dash

[last turtle]

all

[jade moon]

Does conquest have anyway to hard knockdown?

[glacial sandal]

been running Cecil conquest robot

ngl Cecil and Conquest have p good synergy esp from what I’ve labbed

[agile talon]

i run conk nolan cecil

[rotund path]

I would never use anything different

[remote birch]

We need this to be fixed ASAP this is too easy https://x.com/i/status/2050351392192159860

K7 (@K7_Showoff)

i learned this in 4 mins btw

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X · May 1, 2026, 11:07 PM

[lethal kraken]

Ive seen so many people post this the past 2 days how have they not fixed this yet

[low parcel]

I got hit with it an hour ago

[vale prairie]

what is conquest supposed to do on tipper 5m

it doesn't combo into anything

yes, including 5h

[orchid osprey]

Comquest is like the best anchor, or is it just me?

[agile talon]

He’s probably the best character in the game all around rn

[lean wedge]

whats an anchor ,

?

[orchid osprey]

The third character on your team (usually the one that comes out last and gets to use all the super meter built up to make a comeback).

[lean wedge]

ah ok ok so i was right to use him as last then

thx !

[agile talon]

I like to open with conk

[sweet tusk]

Who’s everyone playing with him, I’m convinced there’s something in the conquest Lucan shell

[sharp jetty]

Facts

[jade moon]

No he doesn’t have good solo mix and his supers aren’t anything special and his assists are ok

[low geyser]

this is what i'm looking at rn, only been playing for a few hours but they seem solid together

a good 3rd would probably be anyone w/ a solid projectile assist- potentially looking at ellamental omniman and robot

[agile talon]

cecil.

cecil cecil cecil

[low geyser]

i tried him out a bit and yeah thats true

interesting unrelated note

on a grounded starter, 5s~s can combo into charged 5m

idk how useful that is

but it is an option!

[regal hawk]

Disgusting

[low geyser]

played some online matches

yeah cecil

that back assist is

wow

[low geyser]

okay

something weird that i assume is a bug

5m > boost 6s i assume isnt supposed to combo

but the combo counter still flashes for half a second?

[glacial sandal]

i noticed that too

[low geyser]

not that ive been testing for it but

it's the only time ive seen it at all

[zenith mural]

How good is conquest meterless?

As in boost

[low geyser]

he can convert off of most of his moves pretty effortlessly, save the very tip of 5m

[junior nebula]

What’s your guys go to move to get you into the start of your combo?

[low geyser]

most of the time you're gonna get combos started from 5/2L and 5/2M

overall what you do in the combo doesnt matter as much as long as you're extending with assists and tags if you're feeling lucky

unless you're using the pseudo infinite, in which case

just. just do that lol

[mild onyx]

Broken top 1 mfin character brev

[agile talon]

Still more fun to fight against than battle beast

[mild onyx]

Do we have same definition of fun 😭😭😭

[mild onyx]

Nah buff battle beast bro’s movement is kinda 🥀

[agile talon]

You came into the channel for mains of the character to talk trash on the character

What did you expect

[mild onyx]

Am just trolling lmao

I mean its fun to just stomp people for sure, you know what they say. If u can’t beat them then join them 🙈. So I might aswell just hop on too 💔

[agile talon]

whatever you say sport

[near sable]

Can we consider Conquest top tier?

I see him on so many teams

[orchid osprey]

He's a swiss army knife.

[mild onyx]

He is prob the best rn

[clear sigil]

For me, I've seen almost no Conquest player not do the infinite lmao

and it's gotten to the point where I get fatigued every time I see him and prioritize trying to get him out

not that I hate the character since he's still genuinely fun, but it just sucks to be on the receiving end of and I hope it gets patched out soon

even without the infinite, he's still really good too

[mild onyx]

Yea that’s unfortunate

[mild onyx]

Char cool asf tho he will just be too broke for a bit bcz they will patch it soon anyways. Its def not intended as they purposely nerfed the dmg

[clear sigil]

yea, I don't even think the infinite dmg scales either

are charged normals affected by scaling? because I have no clue

[mild onyx]

It doesn’t he can tod

[clear sigil]

damn

atp this is probably the only solo TOD route left in the game

albeit an unintended one

[mild onyx]

Prob not if they all work same way, but unlike conquest u can’t loop charged normals with others

[clear sigil]

thinking about it, I did notice the damage not changing when he hits me with it

I didn't realize before probably because I'm usually thinking "damn here we go again"

[mild onyx]

Yea every time he touch u with that yk ur pretty much dead rip 😭

[clear sigil]

Unless you have an assist breaker, but even then it's always the next time around

[mild onyx]

Yea, it is what it is ig. We will have to deal with it for a bit

[low geyser]

they do since his j.h does but

idk why j.m nust

doesfn

[sweet tusk]

The infinite will get nerfed but there’s a part of me, probably the umvc3 part that’s just like “yeah Vs games are supposed to be messed up, you’re supposed to die off a single hit if they know what they’re doing”

[glacial sandal]

tbh this game is already deviating from that notion a little with combo breakers and such (given its the KI devs), but even then this game is still very high power and grimy, even ignoring the conquest infinite lol

[low geyser]

honestly, after learning that his grounded mediums can just. infinitely cancel into each other, i wouldnt be shocked if it was intended
obviously not the messed up damage scaling, but i imagine even WITH the scaling two charged j.Ms would do more damage and build less bar than j.[M] j.[H]

this message

originally had a curse word

which i figured would be fine but

in an official server i guess not lol

[low geyser]

lowkey

6SS > 5[M] > scene change might be the move

the boost refund is huge

at least near the start of the match or a char's healthbar

if you can kill or kill w/ tag rps do that

[blissful zealot]

now the question is how do we turn the infinite into a tournament legal combo? (3 loops)

this is the best I've got but it requires 2 bars

[jade moon]

It’s not an infinite it’s just a Tod and it’s already tournament legal

In most tournaments Atleast it depends on the TO

It was legal in tns

[lean wedge]

why would it be illegal?

it’s just a TOD

[glacial sandal]

Yeah its just a ToD, which there’s a billion of them already in this game

There’s no real reason to ban Conquest’s pseudo infinite

[hazy nest]

definitely not ban worthy, but it's a lil lame for anyone to have that kinda damage so easily

no supers, no tags, just boost gauge that comes back in all of two seconds after tagging him out

[low geyser]

i wouldnt be shocked if they kept it in but just made the damage scale properly

[sinful sequoia]

Everybody else needs to get like Conquest

The scaling in this game is something else

[low geyser]

i cant access the website..

[agile chasm]

• Conquest can no longer chain Jump Charged Medium into itself
• Conquest jumping charged Medium now scales correctly when repeated in the same combo

[low geyser]

:(

[solemn minnow]

Too late now.

[flint plover]

People are sad about this

what 😭

[sinful sequoia]

He was the only character doing tag fighter damage lol

[blissful zealot]

I know it's removed now, but I find it funny that Titan reacted to the infinite 😂

[sweet tusk]

That’s kinda my problem I want this game to get crazy, I don’t want it balanced like street fighter. Like zero loops in umvc3, if zero hits you and you’re good enough you’re dead.

[clear sigil]

yea, I like to have some sort of a fighting chance if I get caught in a combo.
Solo TODs also go against IVS’s whole philosophy as a fighting game. It’s more like KI than your average tag fighter given it’s the KI 2013 devs.

I’m happy Conquest doesn’t have his infinite anymore.
He’s still good and has plenty to master even without it. The past few days I’ve been up against lots of them back to back, and almost every one of them used it, so it made me feel very fatigued playing the past few days.

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah but you have 3 health bars, no xfactor, you have burst AND counter tag, and there's sudden death. Why would they be nerfing solo combos? What even is the vision.

[rain oriole]

rip infinite

cuz nobody wants to get hit by it 💔

[sinful sequoia]

Game has a huge scaling problem lol

[glacial sandal]

umvc3 grime with ki combo breakers

das about it

and they want combos to be centered around tagging, which isn’t rlly a thing much in umvc3, yea sg exists with raw tags but raw tag routes are team specific and that game is more reset focused

but they want that team aspect to be at the forefront I suppose, so for that reason they prob don’t want solo combos to be that good, tho that also makes making comebacks very difficult, tho I hate comeback mechanics, at least in sg solo combos are still good and everybody can do wack resets solo

[clear sigil]

In a way, how sudden death works could be thought of like a comeback mechanic

[glacial sandal]

ngl I don’t like sudden death

but it’s part of this game so

yes it’s the closest this game has to one

[clear sigil]

I think the concept of it's pretty interesting. I don't like comeback mechanics all that much either, but it does give both sides a somewhat equal fighting chance

and usually discourages people from trying to hide out from how I understand sudden death

[glacial sandal]

tbh does kinda reward stalling with certain characters as some are way better in sudden death than others

Especially ones that can rack up ez chip

[clear sigil]

fair point yea

[glacial sandal]

you could argue it deters and or promotes it

depends on the team imo

[clear sigil]

imo it's not all that fun to watch/go against constant stalling

and I'd think that's why the mechanic was introduced

[glacial sandal]

the zoner players would say otherwise

robot in sudden death go crazy

[clear sigil]

titan be upon ye

[glacial sandal]

feels weird that they’d introduce that when like

90% of this cast is rushdown

and most of the “zoners” aren’t good at zoning

this game has no peacock

[clear sigil]

Cecil feels like the closest we have to good zoning

[glacial sandal]

Ella as well

but even then their zoning isn’t much compared to the absurd rushdown this game offers

[clear sigil]

Ella's alright at it, but I think she specializes more in setplay than zoning

[sinful sequoia]

I want longer, or at the very least stronger unbreakable combos

Spending 7 bars with anissa in a 5 bar game just to barely get a tod that's not using active tag

[clear sigil]

For that, you can bait out assist breaker so they can't break and continue the combo

get a 50/50 and reset maybe

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah, and so it's more of a reset than a combo

[clear sigil]

eh, a combo's a combo

[sinful sequoia]

Not a true combo if you can just break on reaction

[clear sigil]

the guessing game's fun too

I think fighting games are more than cool combos (though I'll admit they are fun as well)

[glacial sandal]

I just wish assist breaker had more counterplay tbh

[sinful sequoia]

You know you can technically combo off of that burst right

Depending on what you bursted and how many frames you have

Its gross

[glacial sandal]

yea I’ve seen some clips

[sinful sequoia]

Im not a fan of burst😭

[glacial sandal]

that shouldn’t be allowed

tbh I don’t mind burst

works fine in bbcf I feel

like I come from sg where combos aren’t anywhere near as strong as umvc3 but instead give you super gross resets in your combos, adds a fun guessing game imo

ki is a bit similar with combo breaker

[sinful sequoia]

Skullgirls?

[glacial sandal]

yes

[sinful sequoia]

I thought combos are very strong in skullgirls

[glacial sandal]

strong in what regard

[sinful sequoia]

One touch is common

Is it not

[glacial sandal]

nope

not at all tbh

[sinful sequoia]

If you're doing 3v3

[glacial sandal]

Tods are pretty rare in that game and usually require a good starter + HCH + a lot of bar

3v3 this applies yes

2-3 touches are common though

[sinful sequoia]

Barely touched it so I can't say

[glacial sandal]

game is more reset focused because of undizzy and scaling being more harsh in that game than other tag fighters

and IPS

Granted that game does have 1v3, 2v3, 2v2, etc

And hp/dmg ratios do change

[glacial sandal]

that’s fine

but even then IVS is similar

this game def has the potential to have messed up resets

I don’t rlly see much of a point to it though unless ur Lucan or smth

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah there's definitely resets

[glacial sandal]

with active tag you can kill from like

literally anything in this game

don’t even need a lot of resources to do it

[sinful sequoia]

I hate this games active tag

[glacial sandal]

why

is it the conversions from literally anything?

[sinful sequoia]

Its because they are "fake"

Reset

Guessing game

[glacial sandal]

tbh for how strong they are

I think that’s completely justified for them to force a guess

They literally let you threaten w ToDs off of any starter

From any range

Which is insane

[hazy nest]

off of a heroic strike, even

[glacial sandal]

^^^^

[hazy nest]

be pretty silly if that was just a true combo

[glacial sandal]

this game would be so much worse if that were the case lmao

imo anyway

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah I'm just not really a fan of burst or breakers, and resets are fine but not super interesting to me

[glacial sandal]

that’s fine it’s ur opinion

but ngl it annoys me already that you can just get whatever you want off of any random hit, kinda removes some aspects of risk/reward to me when everything just leads to ToDs

[hazy nest]

think it's nice that you have to win neutral more than once to secure a kill

[sinful sequoia]

Its a 3v3 game you have to do that 3 times bare minimum

1 if there's unblockables. 300% setup lmao

This game has protection though, ur good

[hazy nest]

yeah, but every kill cuts off a third of your option

[hazy nest]

i get what you mean, but i like how freeform the game's combo structure is. be nice if we could maintain that while also having an actually tangible risk/reward for different starters

[sinful sequoia]

Theres just not much you can do without a team in this game

[glacial sandal]

combo structure is one thing, volatility is another

[sinful sequoia]

They need to tweak scaling dramatically

Make burst dash reset damage scaling or something idk

[glacial sandal]

thank god lmfao I don’t need this game turning into the atrocity that is nen impact

[sinful sequoia]

That's my favorite game bro lmao

Great game

[glacial sandal]

bait used to be believable

[sinful sequoia]

Those anime boys get busy

Amazing combos, just a bit worse than umvc combos

[hazy nest]

not even bait, there's a sort of beauty in freakish, terrible fighters like that

[sinful sequoia]

You have nenstance to avoid unblockables

[glacial sandal]

I’m just happy IVS doesn’t have people pulling an ApologyMan every time they hit you

firebrand unblockable loops ahh

[glacial sandal]

in umvc3 u had lowkey nothing

Modok unblockable loops

Zero unblockable loops

I can keep going

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah they are actually unavoidable in marvel

Nen impact it actually comes down to a 50/50 between strike throw

[glacial sandal]

ik, I was doing that to people

[sinful sequoia]

Nenstance beats unblockable attempt, grab beats nenstance

Its ight I guess

[glacial sandal]

not my kind of game I suppose

granted I have no room to talk as I play other messed up games that could be argued to be worse than either of these

[sinful sequoia]

The characters have fun and satisfying routes you can do imo. There are some really tricky links and stuff.

In this game, I haven't really found anything that feels so great to do

Just some anissa links and Conquest so far

Maybe robot has something, idk

This Conquest nerf went way overboard btw damn

1 jm after boost dash fills the bar again

[glacial sandal]

Tbh character kits in general feel very limited in this game, which coming from SG where kits are much larger, kinda disappointed me a lil w IVS but it’s just the kind of game it’s trying to be, wants to be more focused on the team as a whole rather than individual characters

[glacial sandal]

I’ll have to test once I’m home, omw already

need to see if my cecil/quest routes still work

[sinful sequoia]

It looks like it fills the combo meter alot more than before

[low geyser]

yeah charged normals just

kill the bar in general

[glacial sandal]

only the second hit ever scales it seems

nvm im wrong lmao

just testing stuff

jfc tho

all of my cecil/quest routes now dont work lol

ill have to make new ones

[sinful sequoia]

They weren't playing

[glacial sandal]

they rly werent

they shot this move lmfao

when would u even use this at all for combos anymore

[sinful sequoia]

Figured they would leave it exactly the same and just fix the scaling like omniman or something

[glacial sandal]

move seems kinda dogwater now for combos

[sinful sequoia]

Little bit overboard imo lol

He's still kinda fun ig

But damn bro

od

[glacial sandal]

his dmg tanking p hard after this id imagine

[lean wedge]

exactly

its nerfed now and thats good

[glacial sandal]

my old route didnt even use the infinite at all and like

my dmg is gone lmao

charge jm just adds so much

[sinful sequoia]

tragic

[glacial sandal]

i havent found any worthwile new routes yet

these all kinda suck

[lean wedge]

they took out the infinite and nerfed the charged jm?

thats sucks all ly routes used one jm

[glacial sandal]

my route only used 2 of them

and they were p far apart from each other

in terms of routing

tho i have a new route cooking up rn

stay tuned

most i got so far is this w cecil/conquest/robot

old route didnt even use robot assist at all and was just cecil/conquest did 1k+ (1004)

getting closer, at 933 atm but

i can prob improve this more

charge j2m loops maybe the way? idk

[glacial sandal]

ive yet to get past 933, need to go back to the drawing board

havent messed with solo conquest routing yet w the change

[sweet tusk]

Yeah I’m In the same boat, my routes all used 2 charge Jms. My hope was they’d nerf but at least let you do 2 loops but hey. I think there’s something with his light DP especially in the corner

[sudden comet]

bdc after headbutt not working anymore? only taking half a boost bar mid combo

[feral furnace]

https://x.com/i/status/2051809071398056279

Drudie (@Drudie_)

Found out Conquest can loop supers with Mark back assist.

Conquest M starter TOD w Mark + Eve, 3 bar start.

#IVS_CONQUEST #InvincibleVS

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[sinful sequoia]

Anissa assist kinda works

[pulsar mural]

conq my anchor any suggestions for a point cs eve my mid ngl🫩

[low geyser]

vince

[sweet tusk]

Welcome back Conquest Loops

https://x.com/MiniMaww/status/2051891731981836780?s=20

VMP MiniMaww @Moment Slice Monthly/Dio Sega (@MiniMaww)

So you can just dash cancel Conquest's j.H without using meter?? #InvincibleVS #IVS_Conquest

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X · May 6, 2026, 5:08 AM

[glacial sandal]

I wouldnt say welcome back, this is like way worse than old charge jm loops lol

but tbh most characters can just loop a lot of stuff

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah, every viltrumite can jump cancel and dash their air buttons.

[sweet tusk]

Oh yeah, it's not as good but I've been able to modify a lot of old routes I've been doing using this so I'm happy

Also any Conquest-Lucan players, I need a 3rd character. I've been playing Robot because of his assist but I don't actually like him when I have to use him that much

[glacial sandal]

whats the most yall can get from conquest charge 5m?

solo

[sinful sequoia]

l+m let's j.m cancel into itself

[sinful sequoia]

Like 515 with boost

[glacial sandal]

Any meter?

[sinful sequoia]

No super, but all boost

[low geyser]

cecil or eve

granted thats

gonna be the answer you get for any duo that doesnt include those two or robot

[sinful sequoia]

Invincible

He gives both of them alot more damage

[low geyser]

or vince yeah

just

any of those four

ideally at least one should be on your team

[sinful sequoia]

That guy is the truth

[low geyser]

you WILL land random overheads and extend combos for free and you will LIKE it.

[sinful sequoia]

Charge j2m assist might be an infinite

[glacial sandal]

lmao

tho only seems to with certain assists

needs to be fast assists as u need to their cooldown to start asap

prob why my team can’t seem to do it, robot and cecil assist is slightly slower overall iirc, as in total not just startup

[fringe sail]

Wait how are you doing b2b cJMs like that in the air? lol

I can't get a 2nd to come out that fast at all (just picked up conquest tho)

I can do the omniman loops but i'm missin something here lol

Oh, that's pre patch?

[unkempt jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[sinful sequoia]

L+M after cJM

[fringe sail]

Just dash?

Oh what the hell why does that work but dash macro doesn’t lmao

[sinful sequoia]

No idea lol

[fringe sail]

Very easy too lol nice

Is that just another L+M after the JH?

or how do you dash cancel that meterless

[sinful sequoia]

M+H after jH

[fringe sail]

what the hell LOL

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah idk what's up with that

[fringe sail]

oh hm

the M+H isn't coming out as easy

or i'm doing somethin wrong lol

[sinful sequoia]

Sometimes it makes you do neutral boosted dash

[fringe sail]

M+H after H is doin nothin for me, odd

[sinful sequoia]

Uncharged jH specifically

[fringe sail]

hmm

[sinful sequoia]

On standard control M+H doesn't seem to do anything

[fringe sail]

interesting

i don't mind playing on motion i suppose

I only ask bc i noticed it wasn't a boost dash

[sinful sequoia]

They'll probably patch that or something idk

You can jump cancel the j.H and instant airdash back into charge jM or whatever, will mostly work the same

[fringe sail]

i'll prolly prefer motion anyways lol I come from oldschool fighting games

and i kinda hated the boost button

[sinful sequoia]

Motion has been mostly fine for me

1 or 2 specific things with some chars significantly more annoying to do on motion though

Anissa double super is so much more consistent without motion

[sinful sequoia]

Yeah I can't get it with them

[fringe sail]

nice i got it down tyty

is motion the same with every character?

Qcb = neutral special
Qcf = forward
DP = down?

With those being super 1 2 3 respectively?

should be a very easy swap if so lol

[glacial sandal]

solo I got like 800ish

iirc

granted that’s w super

[sinful sequoia]

I think so

[fringe sail]

Ok you can do it w/ standard as well just have to actually hit the boost + dash buttons simultaneously

I nromally boost dash by actually double tapping direction but doesn't work for this for some reason

Definitely seems like a glitch bc only works with boost dash but doesn't actually boost so doesn't take meter?

[glacial sandal]

def a bug

weird how it only lets you do it if you have boost gauge

yet doesn’t actually consume any

[sinful sequoia]

It might only be Conquest, I've tried most other characters and it doesnt work

[glacial sandal]

prob some input oversight junk

[sinful sequoia]

Almost every route would still work anyway with just a jump cancel and dash, not the biggest deal

[glacial sandal]

and yes it’s only on conquest iirc

yea it’s just weird tbh

[sinful sequoia]

Conquest is a beast

[fringe sail]

Hmm only thing im struggling with on motion controls is wakeup DP seems like.. impossible lol

[mighty mauve]

he is peak

[valid silo]

Yea it’s awkward af for some reason, made me switch to simple

Haven’t had any issues inputting dp in any other fighting games, but it feels really weird in this game

[glacial sandal]

agreed

mashing dp on wakeup in this game just do not be working lmao

[undone lark]

Hey guys do we know when they’re gonna fix Conquest’s bugged boost dashes?

[sinful sequoia]

He's better with the bug

[undone lark]

He is??

[sinful sequoia]

Just a little bit, I think so

Makes some routes easier with that weird cancel

Uncharged j.H is the only button you really can't cancel into boost dash because of the bug

I think

But having that easy dash cancel because of the bug is kinda nice

[undone lark]

I see.

That’s actually interesting, I’ve been focusing on Lucan too much to see the benefits of this it seems.

[sinful sequoia]

Doing the dash input manually (L+M) after charge j.M let's him cancel the move into itself like before the patch

Its way weaker but still pretty useful

[glacial sandal]

Legit yeah lol

[sinful sequoia]

I thought it was a universal thing and got kinda hype.

Unfortunately no

[glacial sandal]

I’m trying to not get used to it tho tbh

since its most likely gonna get patched

[sinful sequoia]

Almost definitely

Its whatever, jump cancel will let you do the same thing, just way more awkward

Some gimmicky and probably not good combos won't work anymore though

[glacial sandal]

Tbh doing it without the bug just feels really finicky and weirdly tight

which it rlly shouldn’t be

but just how it is

[sinful sequoia]

Like charge 5m, straight into shorthop charge j.M loops

[glacial sandal]

tbh doing that isn’t rlly the best

[sinful sequoia]

Nope

Funny that he can though

[glacial sandal]

would rather just charge 5m charge 2m 5h 623mm 2h into whatever charge jm loop u want

need to mess w conquest solo routes more tbh

I have some goofy charge j2M loop ideas

W assists

but solo idk if i can get more than 800ish

W super that is

[sinful sequoia]

What will be maybe a big deal though

Right now you can cancel the moves into itself on block

Thats going to be gone if they patch this

This works on block. And nobody else in the game can do that

[glacial sandal]

Lowkey forgot about this 💀

it’s so funny tho

lmao

[sinful sequoia]

Surprise somebody with 6 j.H overheads on block lol

[glacial sandal]

if they got hit by that

they deserve it

[sinful sequoia]

If you cancel fast enough they can't interrupt with 2H its a real blockstring lol

Charge j.M on block is fake they can 2h for free

[sinful sequoia]

Can pretty much infinite blockstring with assists

Or delay for "unblockable"

[glacial sandal]

need someone to put rock music in this so he can headbang to it

[sinful sequoia]

He looks so goofy

[autumn crypt]

Is it worth doing over non infinite routing?

I assume any infinites they will remove at this point

[glacial sandal]

It’s not an infinite

And it isn’t good lol

[autumn crypt]

Yeah if it isn't good I'll look to do something else

[glacial sandal]

Like the input bug itself is good for making certain combos easier

But there’s no reason to loop jh like that

does like no dmg cuz scaling

Tho it is extremely funny on block

[autumn crypt]

I normally just grind out hard combos until I get them

[glacial sandal]

conquest doesn’t rlly have anything hard imo from what I’ve labbed out

hardest thing was getting lvl 1 drag super to juggle into certain assists

and that’s just because it’s a finicky window and it’s p position dependent

like so

tho the only teams that would want to learn anything like this would be because they don’t have an assist to loop lvl 1 headbutt with like back mark assist which is super easy to do lmao

such as my team, cecil/quest/robot

I can’t loop lvl 1 headbutt and quest is the dmg engine of the team

so gotta loop lvl 1 drag instead

[fringe sail]

Wait what do you mean looping level 1 with mark back assit

Oh I see

just not in corner

Oh even in the corner if you're airborne nice

man you can almost link mark and atom eve assists with J2M it seems. Like... I think it's technically possible but the cooldowns are barely too long?

[pallid hedge]

External links are not allowed in this channel

[vale prairie]

https:// medal.tv/games/invincible-vs/clips/mFOn2spYfRznwTTb5?invite=cr-MSxnT0EsNDQ1MTI3MTYz&v=15

[fringe sail]

Oh my I got the super loops down and it's a game changer lol

[fringe sail]

I can get like 3 loops sometimes but I get caught with them on 1second cooldown most of the time

Not sure where I’m missing the timing

[fringe sail]

Are you waiting a bit for the assists? Mashing it?

Here's where I'm going wrong. EVERY NOW AND THEN I'll be able to get the 3rd bc im accidentally changing the timing somewhere but i'm normally getting caught with assists on cooldown after the first cycle

[lethal kraken]

Its the jump after you call the assist. You need to make sure you get some height on the jump before another 2m, itll give you that extra second. Notice the difference in your jump heights after the eve assist compared to mark

the clip I posted you can see my jump heights are the same each time except the last one. Also I try to think about calling the assist right when they start to bounce after the stomp

[fringe sail]

Ah yeah that was it, got it reliably now. Thanks!

[void pivot]

W

[trail cedar]

what other assists work for this?

[fringe sail]

Mark back assist is mandatory for sure.

Haven’t tried with other 3rd characters but I imagine most

[obtuse mulch]

"Still having fun?"😭

[trail cedar]

i didnt noticed it had to be the air auper. that makes more sense then

omniman back assist works

[fringe sail]

It doesn’t necessarily have to be air super but you’ve gotta catch them at the top

[sinful sequoia]

Guy getting hit needs to be in the air usually

The best assists for that are mark and monstergirl

Anissa is 3rd easiest id say, but its bad

Battle beast and omniman work, its VERY hard to loop. Thula works. Lucan and Titan work calling assist before super

[blissful zealot]

I wanna optimise this a bit but idk how

[fringe sail]

With that team you can loop level 1s instead of dumping level 3, like this:

[blissful zealot]

👀

The timing looks tricky though 😐

I'll figure it out when I get back to the arena

[torpid sluice]

hi what's the bnb for conquest solo?

[fringe sail]

It’s actually not too bad at all

The mark assist you can just mash. Then a bit of a delay with atom eve assist but it’s not a tight window at all

[sinful sequoia]

I like doing the boosted dp in the air for the big groundbounce, for a bit more delay, and whiff 2L for quick assist

[fringe sail]

Actually a really solid shout, I've been manually timing it and pretty rarely drop it but why risk it if I can autotime it

I didn't know quick assists came out on whiffs

[sinful sequoia]

The whiffing thing has been pretty consistent for me when I try

Some routes its super awkward though

I try it in some Invincible routes and it messes up alot

Falling down from the sky and whiffing j2h for the quick assist. The timing is strict to get the assist to spawn at the right height

Or after the slide knockdown from mark overhead. You get alot more time if you run up and whiff 5L for quick assist for some ass scaling assist loops

[fringe sail]

My mark flowchart is so simple lol

I haven't really optimized mark combos at all just magic series launcher into magic series 2H into super lol

it's worked but I should prolly work on that some

[sinful sequoia]

Im still waiting to see some kinda crazy mark links

His combos are pretty boring

[lean wedge]

a fun combo i made

not optimal but who cares

[misty wraith]

Can someone explain to me how people are still pulling things off like conquest mid air heavy medium infinite

Like they hit you up and its the same 3 moves that follow what move is that

[glacial sandal]

boost dash

[lethal condor]

look at my inputs

[opaque fox]

Conquest players I found smth that not many people probably dont know and I find it quite helpful. On block conquests dp can be canceled into boost dash.

It's quite helpful for keeping your turn and getting another overhead

[sinful sequoia]

Pressing L+M let's him cancel jM into itself like before the patch, and boost macro cancels j.H

[wintry sapphire]

Conquest is so saucey sick combo routes

[blissful zealot]

I'm getting the hang of looping but I need to continue the combo from a tag to get TOD

Also i went with Robot as my anchor as his missiles allowed me to extend the combo (eve sometimes dropped it for me)

[wintry sapphire]

That was really cool looping level 1 super!! Check out this tod I got in a match it’s not a real tod because I think tagging in doesn’t count but still it was hype

[daring adder]

Hey y’all I’m new to these types of fighting games (3v3) but I just wanted to drop this clip and get your thoughts on what my little brain has come up with so far.

[wintry sapphire]

Not bad but too much tagging and there’s saucier routes check out my conquest combo

[opaque fox]

Conquest players

I have developed THE sauce

[wintry sapphire]

Brother lol very creative never seen that !!!

[wintry sapphire]

Dude I want to figure out how to loop his stomp

[opaque fox]

His stomp? The uh 2m in the air?

[wintry sapphire]

Yessir

[opaque fox]

I'll see what I can do

[lethal kraken]

U wanna see a throw combo with your team?

[wintry sapphire]

Dude that’s probably the best conquest combo I’ve seen so far

[opaque fox]

I got it for you

The 2h loop

Took me a while because motion controls kept f*cking me

[opaque fox]

I dont think that works anymore

Cause they removed the infinite

Or am I bugging

[lethal kraken]

It still works there's a way to do it

[opaque fox]

Don't gatekeep

[lethal kraken]

Its literally the message under yours from yesterday about the dp

[opaque fox]

Oh ur just boost dashing

[lethal kraken]

Nah it's some weird thing after the first charge M you hit L + M together and keep holding M and you can do multiple in a row

[lapis pendant]

For the more advanced players here, can anyone advise on how to hit Conquests air BnB?

As you can see from the clip, the notation Max is hitting appears to be charged jM, jH, charged jM, j2M, and it works consistently.
I can't seem to get the second charged medium after hitting heavy, and it can't even make it hit if I boost dash cancel it either.
Any resources or advice would be greatly appreciated

[wintry sapphire]

Bro so sick hit this in a match it’s just to style so f dope I love this game so much cool combo routes to express yourself

[low geyser]

being able to combo off of forward super is genuinely so nutty

[proper topaz]

It's a bug that allows you to loop j.m after j.h and not spend boost meter. So charged j.m j.h bd charge j.m.

[wintry sapphire]

Nice this character is so fun im having a hard time learning others lol

[pseudo comet]

I thought they patched out M into M like that?!

[opaque fox]

They did but they didn't

[blissful zealot]

They increased how much it fills the bar in order to reduce the likelyhood of infinites happening and you can't combo it into itself without dashing but other than that yeah it's untouched

[lapis pendant]

Do you have a specific rhythm you hit to get the timing to work? I've tried it a couple of times and I think I might be doing it too slow, because I get the flash and the meter gets spent, and by the time I charge j.m, the opponent is either already recovered or they've fallen too low and the charged j.m just whiffs

[proper topaz]

Best I can do for a hand cam

[lapis pendant]

You're a saint, thanks for the help

[low geyser]

why does it feel like everything cool this char has is a bug 😭

minus forward super extensions

[lethal kraken]

Well hes about to have nothing cool after the patch since it seems like you won't be able to use an assist more than once in a combo

[lapis pendant]

What, for real? I understand its pretty strong that Conquests moves take a while, so you can recharge your assists mid combo, but its nice to have a character with good solo damage potential without being super reliant on active tag, and it rewards good routing.
I feel like they could balance this by, instead of limiting assist calls, either increase the timer on combo assists, or even make it so the assists only stop recharging once the combo has exceeded a certain number of hits

[low geyser]

should probably be the combo assist timer

i get they wanna nip infinites in the bud but there''s a diff between allen being able to loop assists in a standing combo for free and spending a bar or two of boost to buy time for assists to come back

[lethal kraken]

Yeah in the update video today the devs said something about doubling the assist timer when used in a combo. So even if you use a regular assist the cooldown could double to 6 instead of 3. We'll have to see when the patch actually drops but that would kill any of his big damage loops

[opaque fox]

Wait does that mean my conquest sauce is gonna go away😢

[lethal kraken]

Yea seems like 2m loops will be kinda cooked. Probably still will be able to get like 750 damage off it just not the big 900+ ones

[opaque fox]

😢😢😢

[lapis pendant]

I dunno what their overall plan is for the game, and I'm not an advocate for infinites, but Conquest isnt as well rounded as some of the more top tier characters (looking at Mark and Omniman with their neutral skips and very fast, far reaching overheads) and he doesn't occupy a specific gameplay niche strong enough for his gameplay plan to be overly oppressive.
In a game that's very reliant on active tag to get big damage, Conquests gimmick being that, if you structure your combos well, that he doesn't need to tag out for big damage, is both a good niche and its weirdly fitting for his character.

Poor bro is literally a victim of his own success. We keep finding cool new tech for him and the game keeps changing around him to take those tools away

[obtuse mulch]

So this combo is going to get patched?

[lethal kraken]

Yup the assist cooldowns will change from 3 seconds to 6 so you won't be able to keep calling them like that

[sinful sequoia]

Thats ass

[misty wraith]

Ay what is conquest wearing 🤣

[wintry sapphire]

Hey guys so with conquest is there a combo where I loop his air headbutt? I’m trying to see

Or I guess what I want is to see if there’s a optimal combo with a lot of headbutt

[crimson comet]

What conditions do I need to punish conquest boosted uppercut? Like spacing, blocking crouching or standing? Better to jab or launch?

[lapis pendant]

Its kinda dependant on how Conquest ends up using their uppercut. If they whiff, you have a great gap to punish since it has 21 frames of recovery, and if you block it its -26.
However, they can cancel that recovery into the follow up, which only has about 11-13 frames of startup, and since its gonna be a boosted, getting bopped by that overhead is gonna lead to a full combo. And if you block the overhead, its only -7 and has a bit of pushback, so you can't punish it with a normal. And all that also depends on Conquest not covering himself with an assist.

I'd say best option is to block standing, and if you block the first hit and you have the resources, throw out your own boosted reversal in the gap between 1st and 2nd hit, since you can generally combo or active tag of them. That also works for your lvl 1 supers too.
However, if you have a ranged assist (Cecil/Eve) or any assist with armour (Conquest back Assist) call them in when you're blocking the first hit and if Conquest tries to go for the overhead, he'll be hit you can punish. Even if he does hit your assist character because you used a more close range assist, you'll still be free to act and its likely that you can punish him.

There are probably more character specific options, but I don't know who you're playing as, so I'll leave it at that for the moment.
I'm also not sure on the data for backdashes (like how fast they are and if they have a period of strike throw invulnerability and it that also applies to BD) because I imagine if certain characters had a fast/far enough backdash to escape during the gap and avoid the overhead, you could probably get a decent whiff punish there too.

[obtuse mulch]

this is the best i could get

[daring adder]

Hey there after some time I think I finally have something (I’m still new to these games)

[deft pasture]

Crouch jab into crouching heavy after the animation finishes

[pseudo comet]

Fellow conquesters! How are you all using his assists for setup. Obviously there is the overhead during block strings but how do you use the other one in match?

[wintry sapphire]

I use his back assist to cover ground while I go for superjumps

[pseudo comet]

Are you hoping to land on the other side or is it just out there to make the other person react/block?

[wintry sapphire]

I go for super jump then down forward air dash medium punch for an overhead

And yeah make em block