#Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

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blazing flume
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they sure love to act like small things are big

green flame
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Yeah IGN continue to be stupid, but that bug fix on the sword certainly explains a lot.

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Like. I had always wondered why the one shots were so easy

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It makes sense now. They weren’t supposed to be.

frigid marlin
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Beat first ||Axion||

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That was a fun fight

ionic lynx
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working towards that myself atm, gg

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Any chance there are things that'll boost accuracy eventually?

ionic lynx
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darn, okies

green flame
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You can make your pew pews monstrous though. Relatively

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9 shots to the face hyper buffed takes down most non elite fliers

ionic lynx
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doing the act 2 || Sirene ||dungeon and it feels like those are necessary, heh

green flame
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Positive news, that boss isn’t considered a flier. But yeah. That dungeon can be rough.

ionic lynx
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fighting the fallen leaves dungeon first, I think i can take these guys, heh

green flame
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Probably

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Fallen Leaves. Now THERE was a boss

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Christ

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That thing was a monster.

ionic lynx
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Wasn't too bad for me, but my dudes were level 45 or so at that point

green flame
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I was somewhere in the 50s

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but yeah

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even still it was a rocky fight

ionic lynx
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the fight after the bridge in there took me more tries than I'd like.

green flame
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also update: Grosse Tete is NOT actually missable.

theres a respawning version of it (act 3) ||sky manor||

green flame
ionic lynx
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I started dodging instead of parrying all the charms for that one, window was a bit too tight but that seemed to do it

green flame
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I never tried to figure out the parry timing

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far far too risky

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but yeah you dodge after the second poof

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and to my knowledge that is the appearence ALL charm attacks take.

ionic lynx
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realizing piercing shots adds to dmg just now was nice

green flame
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I have yet to see a charm inducing attack that is not the triple poof

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which, honestly, props for consistency.

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theres a lotta enemies that have the -max health status effect and theres basically never a proper indication.

ionic lynx
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I really appreciate the amount of tells this game has in consistency and in general?

green flame
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its been nice for the most part

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except afformentioned max health reduction

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but I think theres a picto that makes you immune

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the only status effect I dont believe theres an immunity for is Inverted?

ionic lynx
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aye, the few i've encountered with that, I usually can't beat

green flame
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the trick is to give up on parries.

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no seriously I had to beat that into my skull over the course of like 7 team wipes

ionic lynx
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but, parry my beloved!

green flame
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I KNOW

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IT HURTS

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BUT ITS HOW YOU WIN

ionic lynx
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our platypus can't help us yet q.q

green flame
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It took me until now to get that joke.

green flame
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Act 3 ||Okay I take back what I said about Clea. Talked to her in the “endless” tower after beating it. Well not her a specter of her made by her. Whatever. She… understands this mess and is…. Actually trying to help people? Trying to get them to do what needs to be done to put things right? God damn.||

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||why is this actually really deep character moment just, stuffed into a random area??? like. The hell. Respect but what the hell.||

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As far as I know I’ve now gotten every picto outside of the final zone…. Time to attune em and figure out how much lumina I need.

ionic lynx
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I really really like the duels/ ||merchant|| fighting music

green flame
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So fun fact

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1111 lumina is nowhere near enough

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I’m guesstimating 1500

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Ish

ionic lynx
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I believe in you

green flame
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Also, with the bug fix…. Even with…. Just about every single damage buff

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The one shot is no longer possible

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Farming just got

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A lot slower

ionic lynx
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ouch

green flame
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I mean

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To be clear

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That damage WAS absurd

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It was literally insta killing post game enemies on accident

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The fact that I have to hit 2 more buttons aint the worst thing ever

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It just doubled farm time from like 9 seconds to 18 seconds

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It’s a non issue

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Okay the one thing I expected to find but never did, an ability that turns basic attacks into AOEs. Never found a weapon, or a picto, or a buff. Nothin.

ionic lynx
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they do let basic attacks get kinda strongk, so that's kinda funky

green flame
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Yeah

ionic lynx
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wonder if it was a programming thing or they meant it for a specific character at some point

green flame
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My basics on Maelle right now: have 4 swings, generate 4 energy for each of those swings, break, apply defenseless, give me powerful, and like 5 other things I’m forgetting.

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But no AOE

ionic lynx
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maybe even health back?

green flame
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Don’t ask what I need 16 energy per turn for. I need it. Totally. Mhm.

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Oh right yeah 15% of that every swing

ionic lynx
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oh my. Sireso is neat. character's perfection bonus applies to allies instead.

green flame
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30% sorry forgot I had a heal doubler.

green flame
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I like Gaulteram

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You lose 1 perfection on hit instead of 1 rank

ionic lynx
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Okay, i can see that

green flame
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Anyways long story short if there is something in this game (besides AOE) you want a basic attack to do, I assure you there is a way.

ionic lynx
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Am now on Act 3.

ionic lynx
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Chromatic abberation just a bit too hard for right now, heh

green flame
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ah yeah

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that one is.... rought

ionic lynx
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I have about half the timing and not enough health

green flame
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not a lotta friendly places post damage uncapping/act 2. I'd reccomend going after ||Spronk|| when ya can.

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they fall pretty quick once your damage is no longer limited

frigid marlin
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I basically stopped fighting chromatics once act 2 started

green flame
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they arent that bad

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ish

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it depends on how much grinding youve done

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only..... 6 chromatics have ever scared me and they were in postgame areas.

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everything else aint that bad

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comparatively

ionic lynx
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also a funny, took me til just about end of act 2 to get professional(kill a boss without taking damage) and it was one that bound you

ionic lynx
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back to frozen hearts with limit break 😄

green flame
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Nice

ionic lynx
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I do love just how crazy the damage can get

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the scaling in this game is always fun

green flame
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Honestly I’m glad that you can legitimately play the game completely normally, and be perfectly fine, or you can be like me and do your best to break it, and both are an enjoyable experience

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Only other game I know that did this so well was cassette beasts.

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And cassette beasts is one of my all time favorite games.

ionic lynx
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on cassette beasts, their recent update added more story for sunny

green flame
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Yup. Twas an excellent romp of self discovery and dating.

ionic lynx
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2nd crash I've had in the game so far, and this time I only had the game up for ~3 hours

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autosave was convenient tho. yay modern gaming for not losing hours of progress

green flame
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Those are the 2 consistent things I’ve found for crashes.

ionic lynx
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I'm not sure if you'd know, but does increased base attack damage affect most things or just the basica attack swing?

ionic lynx
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okies

green flame
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Anything that specifies basic means only basic

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But, those swings are still real good. And their upgrades are fairly cheap lumina wise.

green flame
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Alrighty. So. Maelle now has every lumina equitable without going to the final area. Yaaaaaay……..

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Extra fun fact. Kill me.

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Well almost every

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I don’t have some of the negative / situational ones

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Or the ones that consume AP

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But anyways for every neutral/positive lumina

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There ya go

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~1452*

*not counting the final zone

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So in total the rest I need for just my main 3 is….

~2460

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God help me

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What have I done

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If I want everyone else too that’s another like. 2650.

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So

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Like

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5,000 more

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I’ll have over 80 million credits by the end

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Yay?

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Or. In other words

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If I am perfect

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19.5 hours of playtime

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If lumina resets in NG+ I will actually cry

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Actually I should maybe check that

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It is not reset thank god

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Hoooh

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Oh hey all enemies get a difficulty bump too! Shame it’s just stats.

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But yay! Proper NG+ that doesn’t screw me over!

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Although

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That is presuming worst luck

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Average is closer to 2 lumina per run

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But is guaranteed at one.

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So depending

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Who knows

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But I’m off to fight an endgame boss

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Wheeeeee

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Oh hey that’s a second boss that the game has verbally warned me not to fight

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Fun

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Act 3 superboss ||so both super bosses were painted over by Clea. That’s actually a really cool through line.||

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I think I glitched out the game

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Maelle is getting endlessly revived.

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That’s

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Not meant to happen

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Also the boss…. Is unbreakable

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And that sure don’t feel intended

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So

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Um

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I’m chalking this up to we take those

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Also… yeah there’s. Things are happening that shouldn’t be

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Something is broken

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And I don’t know what did this

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Probably my lumina spam

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Yeah so since this began: my burns no longer increase my crit rate, Maelle infinitely revives, the boss cannot be broken, and probably some other things I’m missing.

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I just wanted a fair fight and the game is literally crumbling apart.

fossil tendon
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probably a case of

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holy fuck i have to call so many passives when ANYTHING HAPPEN AAAAA

green flame
green flame
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Which

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I’m just guessing is unintentional at this point

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Maelle just indomitable human spiriting this guy

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“I didn’t hear no bell”

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Oh. He has an enrage that just

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Auto loses you the fight

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Huh

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Hm.

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Well after restarting the console hopefully that fixed things

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Man is no longer immune to random nonsense. Whewh

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Maelle endlessly getting up is apparently just, ALWAYS happening now.

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And burn is no longer increasing my crit rate

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HM

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And all the other glitches are back

ionic lynx
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oof

green flame
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Oh all my aim passives stopped working.

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HM

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Oh my heal doubling is gone too

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HM

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for a developer that has a public statement about wanting people to break their game. The fact they didn’t test “oops nearly everything” is astounding.

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Also this boss MIGHT be overtuned. Given my only winning strat so far has been cheese abuse, maybe, just maybe, they overtuned him.

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Okay so at 1/3rd health he just auto wins

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What

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Well sorry, he insta erases your party. Which might as well be a loss

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So okay. Basically. From what I’m reading. This boss is just completely scuffed and an absolute monster.

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The funny thing is I probably could legitimately win this fight if my passives didn’t keep breaking

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Screw it. Off to get my other characters to 1500 lumina each

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Cause this? This is nonsense.

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Maybe by the time I finish my grind they’ll have bug fixed the nonsense

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Because while immortal Maelle is funny….. it’s not what I want.

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I want to ya know, play the game as intended. Make my silly builds. Not deal with glitching out passives that trivialize everything but this specific boss.

green flame
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Good news! There’s a proper bug reporting forum. Now to explain this madness.

green flame
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well. now the waiting game

grizzled skiff
green flame
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Lemme get the video I recorded.

grizzled skiff
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oh, i've seen that one

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it's fun

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i avoided stendhal and beat everything before that patch hit

green flame
green flame
green flame
ionic lynx
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Act 3 optional ||Alicia battle music is super rad. Just wish I could listen to it longer cuz the fight was Over so quickly.||

green flame
ionic lynx
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Act 3 optional fun quote|| "I demand Trial by Combat." "...Please help me."||

green flame
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Eheheheheeeeh oh that was a fun one

blazing flume
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(I don't think this is spoiler-worthy? I think people would rather know than "find out for themselves")

green flame
blazing flume
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\= so not a fun NG+

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(to me)

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just for people who want possibly extra challenge

green flame
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I guess.

It’s everything I personally like outta NG+

blazing flume
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I like NG+ when it adds more things

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or when the regular game has stuff that isn't entirely feasible until NG+

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(though I like the latter far less)

green flame
blazing flume
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hence "entirely" xD

green flame
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Fair

blazing flume
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I often like to choose words that imply the right thing, as much as I'm bad at reading implication

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(especially when it could be spoilery)

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lol

green flame
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Well. Back to lumina farming. Maybe by the time I’m done they’ll have fixed this stupid glitch.

green flame
blazing flume
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those are probably the most frustrating kind of bug

green flame
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Yup

blazing flume
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(didn't censor myself, oh well)

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I've been calling it a French jrpg

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but Je'RPG is chef

green flame
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Hell yes

blazing flume
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lol, me and a friend were breaking down reference material that E33 likely took a lot from

green flame
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Ex33 took inspiration from: yes.

blazing flume
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from what we've gathered, Lost Odyssey (QTE special bonuses), FFX (turn tracker), Persona 5 (stylized nonsense)

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(not literally taken from, but the similarities are uncanny)

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all that into this

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trying to find other references

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but those hit hard

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(for the Lost Odyssey shot)

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and that's just for combat

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not including everything else

green flame
blazing flume
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yes, we were just trying to figure out the most obvious popular ones

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and it reeks of P5, stylistically

green flame
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Mario and Luigi.

blazing flume
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I honestly don't think that one is often considered, no offense to the game

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(good game, albeit easy and frustratingly simple, but nintendo so it's fine)

green flame
blazing flume
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I guess a better term is.. it reeks of ATLUS

green flame
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Fair

blazing flume
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the UI, I mean

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not many other devs/pubs have such... flashy UI's

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and the positioning of everything is spot on for specifically P5

green flame
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Ahhhh

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Yeah

blazing flume
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super hard to argue against that one xD

green flame
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oh yeah absolutely I legitimately have nothin for that

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I thought you moreso meant the stylistic choices in the world and what not

blazing flume
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I know, I just can't get over how spot on it is xD

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ohhhhh

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nah nah nah

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world-wise... that's tough

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it's got hints of modern and classic FF, Xeno, and umm... definitely LO

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with its own twist

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and a weird dash of Soulsbourne

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(visually)

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though I guess there's some crossover between LO and SB

green flame
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GRIME

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Stonedrich

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that stylistic

blazing flume
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GRIME

green flame
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yeah the video game

blazing flume
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erm, I realized I tried to scream it

green flame
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Parting Shade - Face the grueling platforming challenges of the Abandoned Opus, a new Area which lies at the top of the Weeping Cavity.

Tinge of Terror - NG+ Mode added, along with Major modifications to existing Bosses, and an entirely New Boss, Music & Weapons.…

Price

$24.99

Recommendations

3960

Metacritic

81

▶ Play video
blazing flume
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but it's already in caps

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but yeah, totally

green flame
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funny thing about that title

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gotta use GRIME when screaming

blazing flume
green flame
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yeeeeaaaaahhhh

blazing flume
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first area of E33 vibes

green flame
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you know what Im talkin about

blazing flume
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there is a LOT of GRIME in it

green flame
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second area

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yeah

blazing flume
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oh right

green flame
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the stonedrich vibe, it goes hard

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(stonedrich being if lovecraft was afraid of rocks instead of water)

blazing flume
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lol yeah

green flame
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but yeah theres a lotta grime adjacent stuff and I am all here for it

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enemy designs, locations, concepts, the god damned BLACK HOLE MOTIF

blazing flume
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tbqh, I love how it's "pretty cosmic horror"

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and it's got stone

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water

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fire

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ice

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etc.

green flame
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no seriously the black hole motif is just, ohhhhh its so good

blazing flume
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hahahaha

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yeah

green flame
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yeah it only shows up in like late act 2/act 3 but hooooooooh

blazing flume
green flame
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THE BOY

blazing flume
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Black Hole, Son

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Won't you come

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wash away AH FUCK

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man, I need to play GRIME again

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it's so pretty

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I love gorgeous darkness

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or dark gorgeousness?

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Yes.

green flame
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both.

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although now that we speak of it I have been reminded.

YOOOOOOOOOON MY BOY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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WE WERE FRIENDS

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IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAYYYYYYYYYYY

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alright emotional trauma dumpped Im off to eat some lunch

blazing flume
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E33 is emotional trauma the game, seasons 1-X

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like they looked at the games that ripped our hearts out and were like "let's do that over and over again, but let's mix up the pacing so they can't get used to it"

green flame
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“So you see we START at the emotional peak right?”

“Right yeah where do we go from there though?”

”HIGHER”

blazing flume
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xD

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"when do we stop?"

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"Nah."

green flame
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The thing is in between each moment the game gives you just enough wholesomeness to push you forward, to take that next step, only to gut you again. It’s so brilliantly done.

blazing flume
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and those moments aren't always the same amount of time

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it even teases you both directions

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like "this might be awesome!" "nope."/"oh this is gonna suck" "awesome things!"

green flame
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Yuuuup

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It’s never quite the same setup

ionic lynx
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The gestral are a weird epitome of that*

blazing flume
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lol

frigid marlin
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Is facing the paintress a Point of No Return?

ionic lynx
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Sorta. Lot of cutscenes, but than you are good?

frigid marlin
ionic lynx
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yes

frigid marlin
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yeet

blazing flume
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this is wonderful news

green flame
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Have fuuuuuun Susan.

blazing flume
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no u

green flame
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I already had my emotionally destroying reality shattering cutscene spree. Now I’m in FarmVille, stabbin my way through the same merchant thousands of times.

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Currently at 16 mil / 80 mil cash

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When I hit 80 I should be BASICALLY done with all my lumina farming

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But

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Things may happen

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I likely lowballed it

blazing flume
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farmville still exists?

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oh

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wait

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=._.=

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shutup

green flame
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Snrkkkkk

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I’m glad SOMEONE got my reference

blazing flume
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:3 (though I didn't quite catch it as a reference, I thought you literally meant farmville for a moment xD)

green flame
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Close enough I’ll take it.

frigid marlin
green flame
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Cause from where I sit the lumina number is hard to see

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But the money is in nice big text.

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I’ll send boomer screenshot as example

ionic lynx
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which merchant?

green flame
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Every enemy there drops lumina but that merchant is the only GARUNTEED

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Others are merely near garunteed.

ionic lynx
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tyty

fossil tendon
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well...

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ending spoilers ||man it's so cruel, both ending are so cruel but stopping Verso and pushing Alicia out of the canvas was the only reasonable choice||

green flame
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I don’t like the sound of that well

green flame
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@frigid marlin boomer screenshot I promised

See how it’s basically impossible to see the lumina number but chroma is dirt easy.

frigid marlin
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Bruh

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That was an awful screenshot

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Truly boomer worthy

green flame
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It’s a screenshot showing basically my vision from my bed. Which is where I lumina farm from

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Photo

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What have you

night ermine
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thats not a screenshot

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thats a room capture

ionic lynx
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Technically there is a screen in the shot

green flame
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Honestly I’m just surprised nobody’s asking questions about the knickknacks on my desk.

ionic lynx
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I like the snake

blazing flume
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I hate this conversation, not because it's bad, but because of every moment being silly and facepalm worthy

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xD

green flame
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Context?

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Or you mean the convo in here

blazing flume
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"truly boomer-worthy" o\ "this is where I lumina farm" o\ "that's not a screenshot" o\ "technically there's a screen" o\\\

green flame
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Ah yeah

blazing flume
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y'all are goofy and I love y'all

green flame
blazing flume
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I do love the snek

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and claptrap!

green flame
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Its name is Snakey.

blazing flume
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original <3

green flame
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Cause. I’m great with names.

ionic lynx
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Sometimes I'm even names with great

blazing flume
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it's okay, my Grunty from .hack//SIGN is "Grunty", and my Pikachu is "Pika", I'm just as excellent as you are

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my wife's massive 12ft long colorful centipede plushy thing is just "Pete" (from "'Pede", though I guess that's kind of clever)

green flame
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Awwww

blazing flume
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really annoying plushy because it's... huge and unweildy

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but it's soft and makes a good pillow

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(I won it for her at the fair one year, back before we got married)

green flame
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Hell yeah

blazing flume
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we normally have it draped on the back of the futon, as a "throw pillow" for when it's down

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our nieces love it when they visit xD

green flame
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Ya know the funny thing

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If Colour of Lumina was infinitely buyable

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I’d have like

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5 times more than enough cash to max out my party and then some

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But no

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Couldn’t have that

green flame
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Welcome back to Grinding with Gurmudgin. Today’s grind: the same annoying ass hellscape I’ve been doing for the past week. Dear god I wanna slap these devs upside the head for making endgame farming so slow.

green flame
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You might ask “how long have you been here?”

I have 202 recoats.

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Send help

frigid marlin
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My brother is only at Forgotten Battlefield and has already guessed major plot points from the next few areas

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god damn

green flame
frigid marlin
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I certainly didn't see some of them coming and I'm pretty good at guessing plot points in things

blazing flume
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I will say, the majority of the plot points (if they're the ones I'm thinking of) are basically taken out of the Final Fantasy Playbook™️

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(and I mean that endearingly)

green flame
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Eh there’s some good twists on em, but while I wouldn’t say I “knew” what was coming I had…. Ideas.

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Act 3 ||The Paintress not actually being the cause/badguy was my top theory. And look how that played out. Then again her visual language speaks to that quite a bit. The world not being the world was another I called. Some of the minutia I got caught up in, but broad strokes I saw coming.||

vagrant sandal
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I can’t be the only one who hears Hollow Knight in the first few measures of the title screen music, right?

green flame
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Seems legit

grizzled skiff
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broadly speaking, it's the same sub-genre of neo-classical

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if you take away the French lyrics from some of the tracks, one of the main differences is the use of... and this is pretty mindblowing to me now that i type it... CHROMATIC SHIFTS

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as in the Expedition 33 soundtrack uses them but Hollow Knight does not

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god i love this game

true pike
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I have not been able to play this game in almost 3 weeks. I am gonna get boddied when I come back

ionic lynx
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My friend got back from Acen recently and he showed me some pics of some Clair obscur: cosplays and I somehow didn't even think that'd be a thing. Kinda rad to already see folks doing it. One of his pics had a group of mimes with an E33 banner

frigid marlin
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Just beat ||Renoir|| with ||Gustave's Homage||

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Now that's a fitting end to a boss fight

green flame
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nice

frigid marlin
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Now for the most time consuming part of any RPG

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backtracking

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I’ll do as much searching on my own as I can before I resort to a guide to find stuff I miss

green flame
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I had thought I had gotten most of everything but that was oh so wrong. Had like 4 guides open saying “you fool, you missed 17 glowies in this level”

blazing flume
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hahaha

frigid marlin
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I'm pretty good at finding glowies

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theres a couple in the cliffs level I just couldn't figure out how to get to

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Might be able to now, though

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cause I have the blue rock smasher thing

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and many chromatic enemies I gotta fight

green flame
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The cliff had like. 3 I didn’t realize were even there. Most other levels had 1-2. But cliffs. Oh cliffs.

frigid marlin
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there was definitely a point at which I decided I would leave chromatic enemies for free roam section

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also sprong

green flame
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Cliffs was cruel I tells ya.

frigid marlin
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gotta fight sprong

green flame
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TLDR: ||dude drops a picto that makes you always take a second turn after acting||

frigid marlin
#

I really appreciate the ||damage limit breaker|| didn't cost insane lumina

green flame
#

Yeah

#

Well

#

It’s basically required past A2

frigid marlin
#

yeah but with my experience in RPGs (especially ones like FFX), I was expecting it to be priced higher

green flame
#

Fair

frigid marlin
#

now

#

holds a chromatic sword to gurms head

#

where's the merchant

#

lumina farming merchant

green flame
#

1: you cannot kill me in a way that matters.

2: underwater between the two boss islands.

#

Enjoy the level 90+ area! Hope you’ve been grinding!

#

@frigid marlin right there ish.

frigid marlin
#

I'll go fight sprong once I'm done backtracking through flying waters

#

I'm sorry, "legitimately do that asap"

#

bruh

#

28k damage and I barely scratched it's health

green flame
#

Ah.

#

I see

#

Youre still. Weak. Hm.

#

Have fuuuuuuun

frigid marlin
#

Oh I'm having fun

#

I just managed to uh

#

glitch myself out of the map

#

okay just outside spring meadows is the return point on the map if it can't place you where you were when you camped

green flame
#

Neat

frigid marlin
#

Where's the best place to go around level 55s for farming

green flame
#

Dark coast?

#

Yeah go there

#

Southern most area on the map. Dark n spooky

#

Or wait NO DONT GO THERE

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or

#

Hm

#

…..

#

Where was I grinding at 55…..

#

I think I was grinding in Frozen Heart?

#

Yeah

#

That sounds about right.

frigid marlin
#

good to know

green flame
#

Dark Coast is where I did weapon level grinding because there’s guaranteed +32 upgrade mats from each fight.

#

But it’s also like a level…. 70ish area? I think?

ionic lynx
#

Frozen heart was the first good place for me to grind in act 3. is a good spot there to grind some of the weapon upgrade mats too. If you have great reflexes, it can be a decent place to grind before act 3, but that'd make for minimum 3 min fights

ionic lynx
#

"now, if black knight can counter the counter, You'd bleed!"

frigid marlin
#

I can see why this would be a good place to train even before act 3

#

very easy parry windows

#

I'm missing 13 journals

#

can't wait to find them all

vagrant sandal
#

So one of the act 2 areas seemed familiar when I entered, and then I realized

frigid marlin
#

yeah

#

heads and faces

#

people love making walls of those things

#

they're in Outward, too

#

Verso's Mark attack is so strong

#

Defiant Strike

#

Even without the correct letter Grade, it's regularly dealing 20 to 50k

#

per hit

#

its a 2 hit attack

#

only costing 3 ap

green flame
#

I like his light beam pew pew 7 striker.

frigid marlin
#

Just found a merchant that sells a bunch of pictos at level 20

green flame
#

yup

#

theres a good handful of those types around

#

theres another for like the high 20s

#

and then one that sells a good few at 31

ionic lynx
#

They are quite expensive. But since I didn't grind as much as our grinding friend here, haven't been able to tap it much

frigid marlin
#

I'm finally strong enough to fight Noires

#

I need a good source of Resplendent Chroma Catalysts though

#

so many of my weapons are in that range of needing to be upgraded

green flame
#

the best solution?

#

kill an absolute boatload of enemies

#

and buy out every single merchant

#

but mainly

#

RNG drop chance of like 1% or something

frigid marlin
#

I am so confused about how that battle ended

#

I was fighting Gross Tete

#

and then it jsut

#

blew up

ionic lynx
#

resplendant is the one just below top tier?

#

I seem to have been able to get a reliable chunk from enemies at the 2nd or 3rd flag in Frozen heart of the tier right below that I think, And than reliable from the dark shore enemies

green flame
#

I personally stabbed him really hard

#

And he died in agony.

frigid marlin
#

Yeah turns out I'm not good at stabbing him really hard

#

but I am good at dodging

#

I just dealt 800k damage in a 1 hit attack

#

holy fuck

#

Maelle is the true mvp

ionic lynx
#

Get counter while all buffs are up and can be regular 😄

frigid marlin
#

Anyone done Endless Tower trials at all?

green flame
#

The final one especially

frigid marlin
#

If you haven't, it's a great way to get feet for Monoco

#

I got stuck on Stage 5 challenge 3

#

gonna take a while to beat that

green flame
#

Which one is that again? Enemy comp wise.

frigid marlin
#

so i'm taking a break

#

chromatic trumpeter

#

chromatic abberation

#

and the hamme fucker that looks like he's from Little Nightmares

green flame
#

Oh the tower lad.

frigid marlin
#

They start out instantly hella buffing each other

green flame
#

Ahhhhh.

#

See

frigid marlin
#

yes yes I know, stack speed

green flame
#

I went in with a hyperbuffed Maelle and killed them all in 2 rounds.

green flame
#

Really hard.

frigid marlin
#

lmao

#

Yeah Maelle is a power house

#

fuck verso

#

maelle is where it's at

green flame
#

Legitimately that’s how I did the tower. Maelle solo v the world

frigid marlin
#

Oh did you do it literally with just Maelle in the party

green flame
#

Including (final floor spoilers) ||buffed up paintress and curator/mom + pop. Final floor was weird. You’ll see.||

green flame
frigid marlin
#

lmao

#

usually when the rest of the party dies

green flame
#

It should be noted. My Maelle has 1500 lumina. So

frigid marlin
#

that'd do it

green flame
#

Results are…. Uhhh…. Difficult to replicate

frigid marlin
#

There's at least 2 cheating death pictos. One where you get revived and the other where you just get set to 1 health instead

green flame
#

Ye. And then the glitched out third option I discovered.

frigid marlin
#

I've just been using barrier breaker for Maelle

green flame
#

You wanna know the glitched out third option?

frigid marlin
#

what weapon have you been using?

#

yeah

#

tell me the glitch

green flame
#

Uhhhh the ice Healy defense one

frigid marlin
#

That's a good one

green flame
# frigid marlin tell me the glitch

So turns out the game REALLY doesn’t like you equipping 1500 lumina worth of perks and throws a hissy fit upon your death letting you revive endlessly.

frigid marlin
#

lmao

#

that's hilarious

green flame
#

I sent a bug report but

#

Yeah dunno if/when thattle be fixed

frigid marlin
#

the only ice weapon I have for her is Plenum

#

is that the one?

green flame
#

Uhhhh lemme boot up the game

frigid marlin
#

Or do you mean Stalum

green flame
#

Just

frigid marlin
#

the one that causes self burn butyou heal instead

green flame
#

Gimme a moment

#

I use Coldum as my main weapon. Medalum while farming.

frigid marlin
#

I do not have those yet

green flame
#

Welcome to Coldum. Aka how to outlive god.

frigid marlin
#

I think I saw Coldum in a shop but didn't buy it

green flame
#

I forget exactly where I got it

#

But it’s one of my favorites

frigid marlin
#

I think it's in Monoco's Station shop

green flame
#

Probably

#

I probably should use something else but like. I’ve been using it for most of my playtime it’s what I’ve gotten used to having. When I don’t have its effects I get confused.

ionic lynx
green flame
#

I did it at level 99 on the bugged “Maelle was doing double damage” version. It is an endgame challenge through and through.

frigid marlin
#

It's definitely a "hey now that you can fly go to this large ass tower you've been looking at the entire game"

#

and then you do it

#

and get your ass kicked

#

and go "fuck this game" and leave, never to return

#

until you do, after having leveled up a ton

#

and go "this was so easy"

#

and then got stomped hard on Stage 5, Fight 3

#

and so the cycle continues

green flame
#

My personal interactions were “that’s a huge ass tower I’m saving that for last”

frigid marlin
#

Oh also I finally got the last rock

#

I can go underwater now

green flame
#

Nice

frigid marlin
#

Yeah, after going around for a while, I realized I should probably camp

#

And got all the hang outs done

#

That I could at least

#

It’s time for character side quests

#

Thanks to grinding, most have been easy so far

#

Who did you romance by the way

#

Or did you romance anyone

green flame
#

No one yet

#

Still need to do science lady’s quest.

ionic lynx
#

I did sciel. Felt more appropriate for some reason

true pike
#

I got Sciel as well by accident.

green flame
#

Sciel is fine, I just like nice science lady better

true pike
#

I just always spoke to people left to right so Sciel was always progressing before everyone else. I'm assuming that's what ended up leading to it

green flame
#

theres a specific dialogue option you had to choose which was flirty

#

well not even flirty

#

it was explicity "hey we're going off to battle you wanna fuck before we maybe die horribly?"

true pike
#

See I don't recall the dialogue option. Just a certain point hit where I'm all of a sudden sleeping with Sciel and good friends with everyone else. I was very confused

green flame
#

someone hammered through dialogue options and it shows

true pike
#

Hah. Nah I'm the kinda person who reads everything. It's why I refused to play BG3 and similar games with anyone. I won't subject them to that

green flame
#

huh

#

yeah then I got no clue how you missed it

#

it was. extremely unsubtle

frigid marlin
green flame
#

see I read everything

#

I just

#

read really quickly

#

and then I stab the problems to make them go away

frigid marlin
#

lmao

#

part of why I'm enjoying Monster Train 2 so much is all the flavor text attached to each card

green flame
#

to be fair, thats mostly because in BG3 my current main playtrhough that I chip away at every few months is a kill everyone durge playthrough

#

so

#

that colours my view a bit

green flame
#

love card flavor text

rocky rune
green flame
#

Which one was ex 60 again?

#

Were those the guys who were constantly in a kill competition?

rocky rune
#

||they made it to the paintress though the power of muscle, no equipment||

green flame
#

God dayum. Respect.

#

||I mean the climbing expedition also got to her. In a sense anywho. They never saw her but they got damned close. And of course 00 made it. But 00 had plot armour. But yeah. Ex 60 and the climbing ex. Those two have mad respect from me.||

ionic lynx
#

finally back to here and clearing out act 3 zones Fun picto i found ||Breaking Death?! that feels so rad||

blazing flume
#

inb4 the fanservice game E69

#

got to the paintress with the power of "I don't think that counts as love"

green flame
#

Have fun now

green flame
ionic lynx
#

There is apparently chad expedition 60, a bit late tho

green flame
#

But yeah the other expeditions…. I wish there was more from them. A single snipet of a log is lovely and all but I wish there was more.

fossil tendon
#

they prepared so much material for potential games on previous expedition

fossil tendon
#

we "know" of the finality of the story for sure, but they would still be some interesting things

blazing flume
#

and I really hope "Clair Obscure" becomes a series

fossil tendon
#

Clair Obscure Expedition 60(it's a beat 'em up)

blazing flume
#

outside of the expedition stories

green flame
#

I doubt we’ll get games on prior exs. But there’s more to this world to explore. There’s absolutely prep for DLCs, and Clair Obscur absolutely has potential for more games.

But. No need to rush.

green flame
#

Before anyone says anymore

#

I just wanna check

ionic lynx
#

So far, we know dlc is in the works and was planned for. Otherwise in some interviews, they've insinuated importance of some specific things because they will not say any more about them.

green flame
#

Cause we might be deep in spoiler world.

fossil tendon
#

let's not steal anything they need

green flame
#

Indeed.

#

But no seriously ouTPhaze have you beaten the paintress yet cause if not we might need to invest in some spoiler walling.

blazing flume
#

not yet, so might want to tag stuff properly

green flame
#

Ah yeah. Alright.

ionic lynx
#

Other fun notes from interviews, at least 4 songs would have lived forever in the draft bin had the exec not randomly listed to em

#

Such as the real fun gestral ||duel musics||

fossil tendon
#

man that one is such a great one

green flame
#

Act 3 ||Clair Obscur has massive potential well outside of this painted world. I think trying to come back to it would be a mistake though. Sure some DLCs, some comics or stories, but not another full game. We’ve seen the world’s finality. Going back after…. Everything would be… cruel.||

frigid marlin
#

I agree

green flame
#

||no I’m not crying YOURE crying. wanderSpook ||

ionic lynx
#

I'll probably grab the soundtrack at some point. They've got it officially out on YouTube for free, but I think I may make a cd of it for my car

frigid marlin
#

I haven’t beaten the game fully yet, but as you know, I am in the ||“explore the world before the final battle” phase||

fossil tendon
frigid marlin
#

I just want to read the full lyrics for each song

#

When the game first came out, I could not find lyrics anywhere

green flame
frigid marlin
#

I’m sure at this point that’s changed though

fossil tendon
#

||it wouldn't be impossible we get game on the Writers, Compositors and other artistic talents||

frigid marlin
#

I’ll probably go back and continue now that I’ve beaten dragons dogma 2

ionic lynx
green flame
#

||really I just wanna find the writers responsible for the fire, and stab them. Really. Really. Hard.||

ionic lynx
#

If a friend wasn't coming over today, I'd be pushing through it, lots of good stuff to get through in the phase we are at Susan

frigid marlin
#

Yeah, I’ve done a little exploring

#

I’m at the grind fest stage

#

Gotta do that to get to the ||super bosses|| stage

green flame
#

I’m still grinding

frigid marlin
#

Are you trying to get max picto equip on everyone still?

ionic lynx
#

I ended up at the abyss and got tired of the grind in the place immediately preceding that. Than went to the flying manor and everything has been feeling easy, heh

green flame
frigid marlin
#

Is “||Renoir’s Drafts||” the underwater area you do grinding in, gurm?

green flame
#

Yup!

#

Welcome to your new home

frigid marlin
#

Well

green flame
#

Good luck finding the merchant. He’s on a roof.

frigid marlin
#

I still have some overworld stuff to do

#

Level backtracking, gestral kid finding and expedition logs

green flame
#

Fair nuff

frigid marlin
#

Also chromatics

#

I’m early level 80s

green flame
#

Honestly that’s better than when I started

#

I tackled that place in the early 70s

frigid marlin
#

Yeah I still can’t beat the uh

green flame
#

It hurt. A lot.

frigid marlin
#

I don’t know what they’re called

green flame
#

Which things

frigid marlin
#

The thing that’s both a Clair and Obscur with a little black hole in its top center

green flame
#

Ah yea

#

Those boys

#

Don’t shoot the hole. It deals zero damage and can’t break.

frigid marlin
#

Also I gotta get the lumina together to equip everyone with blight immunity. Maybe stun immunity too

green flame
#

Handy

frigid marlin
#

Indeed

green flame
#

Didja beat ocean boy yet?

#

Klang? Or what’s his name.

frigid marlin
#

Sprong

#

And no

#

Haven’t tried the fight again yet

green flame
#

I do truly recommend doing him as early as you can. But he is a beast.

frigid marlin
#

I’ll give him a try in a minute

#

I have the game booted up

#

Just going through chats atm

green flame
#

Man literally gives you like the BEST item in the game. Not a joke or a lie or a bait.

green flame
frigid marlin
#

Oh so he drops perfect chroma catalysts

green flame
#

No.

#

Well. Maybe?

#

Arguably better.

#

Go stab him.

frigid marlin
#

Lmao

#

I will

green flame
#

He might also drop a perfect but that wasn’t what I specifically meant.

ionic lynx
#

once you get the limit breaker, Sprog is a much easier fight. Easy? not exactly. but easier

green flame
#

Susan has the LB.

#

It’s just Sprog being a wall.

#

(To be clear I dunno why sprog is a wall for them I kinda stabbed him dead but I’m also apparently good at video games so I dunno anymore)

frigid marlin
#

it was just dodging stuff

#

but I've gotten better after farming at dark shores

#

dark chroma attacks and sprongs beam attacks are very similar

#

just beat sprong

#

I see what you mean now, gurm

green flame
#

Yuuuuuuup

green flame
#

Learning the beam parry timings is brutal but really helps.

#

Dark Shore is an excellent honing ground.

ionic lynx
#

looks like a big patch just came in, increases parry windows for easiest mode and there are 297 patch fixes

green flame
#

Oh?!

#

You got a list?

ionic lynx
frigid marlin
#

Okay, ||Cheater|| is a must for fighting Serpenphare

ionic lynx
#

They don't list every bug fix in this version of the notes, they might elsewhere?

frigid marlin
#

Oh also I beat Sprong with Gustave's Homage

#

I love beating bosses with that skill

green flame
#

I beat him through gumption.

#

Raw brutal power.

frigid marlin
#

gfy

#

interpret that as you will

green flame
#

Go fuck myself indeed.

#

Also it doesn’t say they fixed immortality through unlimited lumina works so…..

vagrant sandal
#

What amount of backtracking do you guys suggest before starting act 3? I’ve assembled about a dozen lvl 20+ chromas and am at ~lvl 60 on each character, but everything I’m fighting out here is a slog and feels like I probably shouldn’t be touching them

ionic lynx
#

A lot of the enemies there have specific resistances or ways you are supposed to deal with them I think.
Pretty sure you should be good to get to it at that level

green flame
#

Act 3 gives you the LB, and new tools.

ionic lynx
#

I feel I was around 55 when I hit it and had explored almost every place that felt reasonable to do so at the time?

green flame
frigid marlin
#

holy shit that's a great picto

#

just beat it

#

Alrighty, first weapon to ||level 33||

green flame
#

Rad

frigid marlin
#

||Barrier Breaker||

#

It's all I've been using for Maelle

ionic lynx
#

Same. I probably should use something else... but it makes her real easy to use. I haven't returned to the grind spot to face the biggest bad yet since I did that, doing flying manor first

green flame
#

BB is.... okay?

#

it ust.

#

like.

#

eh?

#

I dunno I like good ol ice fire healy sword

#

not the burn based one

frigid marlin
#

just dont take damage

ionic lynx
#

My lumina is currently like, 400 for maelle and the next highest are like, 140 and 150

green flame
ionic lynx
#

I figured, I do want like 200 more for everyone but I do not like that kinda grind

green flame
#

Grinddddd

#

Moarrrr

ionic lynx
#

Although, apparently parry windows got increased again, so 'might' be simpler than before. I think I'm on the easier difficulty? Will have to check when i get back home

frigid marlin
#

Finally got Aberration's foot

#

one foot left to get

#

Holy shit

#

I just dealt 3.6 Million damage in one hit

ionic lynx
#

A good counter can do some mean numbers

frigid marlin
#

Not counter damage

#

Maelle Gradient attack ||Gommage|| in virtuoso stance

#

I dealt over 6M in an attack that was marked as well

#

I just got 100 color of lumina for never having killed a white nevron

ionic lynx
#

I think I've gotten to around 4m with that move

green flame
# frigid marlin I just got 100 color of lumina for never having killed a white nevron

yup. good times.

still. but a drop in the bucket. to equip everything you need I think its.... 1750ish?

depends on whats equipped of course.

and if we get more content.

the true count after the games full life cycle I guestimate to be around 2K.

point being. GRIND MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

ionic lynx
#

Or less

green flame
#

MOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR

frigid marlin
#

i think if ound the merchant

green flame
frigid marlin
#

lmao

#

8.8M Gommage

#

Offensive Stance, lots of picto damage buffs and marked enemy

#

HOLY FUCK

#

HOW MUCH HEALTH DOES THIS BOSS HAVE

#

THE BAR BARELY MOVED

#

oH i'M LOVIN THIS

ionic lynx
#

I haven't beaten em yet, heh

frigid marlin
#

I'm almost certainly going to die here

#

I gotta come back once I'm at level 99

#

THE MUSIC TRACK

#

HOLY FUCK

#

ITS GOIN HARD

#

Oh Gurm, I've almost gotten the picto pop ups past the edge of the screen

#

I'm so close

#

Once I have all the Gradient % increases I can get activated onto Maelle, then I think I could probably fight this dude

#

Okay, in Virtuoso Stance and he's already marked

#

I'll let y'all know how much damage this does

#

FOURTEEN MILLION

#

Honestly

#

I got him under half health in my first attempt at phase 2

#

that's pretty damn good

ionic lynx
#

Best I've done I think was a quarter down on phase 2

frigid marlin
#

I'm not max level and I didn't set up pictos for the fight

#

Investt in Maelle

#

Her Gradient 3 attack, ||Gommage,|| is so strong

ionic lynx
#

I've got a lot on her, tho haven't been back since I maxed her weapon out. about 400 lumina

frigid marlin
#

I've also got her around 400

#

Actually almost 500

#

498 to be exact

#

I've been using Barrier Breaker on her but a different weapon might be better. Something that inflicts burns, maybe, for the picto that gives gradient charge for burning

#

You want everyone to be working towards charging the Gradient asap

#

the sooner you get it to 3, the sooner you can deal millions

#

Preferably having him marked before Maelle's turn, as well

#

If I had realized how strong Maelle was, I would have been putting all my lumina in her from the start of the game

#

Gustave/Verso has early and mid power

#

but late game Maelle is just out of this world

ionic lynx
#

I want to put more gradient chargers on my other party members, but gotta grind

frigid marlin
#

Honestly, it might even be the strat to ignore the power of everyone else and make them gradient batteries for your heavy hitter

#

I haven't had anyone else come close to Maelle's damage per turn

ionic lynx
#

I've heard Sciel's can get there but it takes a lot

frigid marlin
#

Sciel's kit confuses me honestly

#

I'm not good withit

#

I haven't used Lune or Sciel for most of act 3

ionic lynx
#

same

frigid marlin
#

i just noticed glass cannon is mispelled

#

never mind

#

it's spelled the french way

#

cannon is spelled canon in french

grizzled skiff
frigid marlin
#

I mean it was definitely close to that

#

but I'll let y'all know haha

#

I'm currently doing grinding to level 99

#

I've gotten Maelle strong enough that the monster grinding is just being done with her solo

#

Also, Gurm didn't mention this, but you don't have to fight the merchant in ||Renoir's Drafts|| over and over for lumina. There are 4 enemies right nearby that drop both Lumina and Grandiose Chroma Catalysts

#

That I find arguably easier than the enemies in the merchant fight

#

The merchant isn't a solo fight, it's the merchant and one of those upside down things that make dog sounds and an Abberation

ionic lynx
#

I usually made a circuit, hit the merchant, than rested. Rinse repeat

frigid marlin
#

That would certainly measure the lumina gain out to 5 per run rather than 4

frigid marlin
#

Once you hit max level, your experience to "level up" is marked as 0/33333333

green flame
#

I was talking about grind efficiency

#

I always was

#

I mentioned the other enemies a few times

#

The merchant is merely the BEST method

frigid marlin
#

I'm now using my teammates as suicide bombs for the start of battles

#

The best part is that using the auto death picto doesn't count as taking damage for the fight, so you can still get the "No Damage" +20% bonus experience

ionic lynx
#

Guess it also puts those solo boosts up

frigid marlin
#

Yup

#

And the buffs from those boosts are further increased by other Pictos

#

Like the powerful buff getting 15% stronger

#

Also I just dealt 39 million damage

ionic lynx
#

I really need to play again. Is my work Friday tonight, so I should get to it when I get home.

frigid marlin
#

without even being in virtuose stance

#

I just did

#

100 MILLION DAMAGE

#

Image spoilered for super boss reasons

ionic lynx
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Any specific buffs you think attributed to it?

frigid marlin
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Oh, so many damage increase buffs

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My pictos aren't as crazy as gurms

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but I have Maelle's Lumina at 849 out of 855

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I wish there was a training dummy in camp you could fight to test out damage and builds on

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that would be awesome

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Oh wow, I just found a picto that gives 25% increased damage at full health

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now that would have been nice to have

ionic lynx
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yeah it would. Currently finished flying manor and working on the tower. O.o whar do that be?

frigid marlin
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From a merchant in Lumiere (not old lumiere)

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You're not locked out of leaving once you enter, so don't worry about going in

ionic lynx
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gotcha gotcha

frigid marlin
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Just found another picto that would have increased that damage

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25% increased damage with gradient attacks

ionic lynx
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my favorite one i've found is ||break all enemies on death||

frigid marlin
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yeah, i use that as part of my death bomb strategy

frigid marlin
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Woo all music records

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Last one is ||from the final battle||

ionic lynx
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okay, just landing and going from the start of that zone is rad.

frigid marlin
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Wow

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Just wow

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Great video game

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A true masterpiece

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Loved the ending

ionic lynx
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I can't wait for the dlc and for my boss to beat it, heh. He just got to act 3 and also has changed his phone wallpaper to esquie

frigid marlin
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Been playing in english or french?

ionic lynx
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Weirdly, I would describe this game as Grim, but not Grimdark

frigid marlin
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I'm tempted to do it again but with voices in french

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I wonder how some of the scenes would land that way

ionic lynx
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Apparently the early Main music ||has lyrics that are jumbled a bit ala simslish but change to french for the final times they come up so that folks aren't spoiled||

frigid marlin
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That doesn't surprise me

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maybe that's why I couldn't find any lyrics for them anywhere when the game first came out

ionic lynx
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There is a cool interview somewhere with the director, the composer, and a youtuber that dives into game music that's pretty solid and has fun mentions on that

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the fact that this is the composers first professional work is wild

frigid marlin
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Spoilers abound for reading the translation for sure

frigid marlin
ionic lynx
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my favorite song, the one during|| Gestral Duels?|| A song in his draft bin that he never planned on doing anything with til the director heard it (by listening to his draft folder) and was like "That's a banger"

frigid marlin
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BRUH

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that's awesome

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we are our own worst critics in living example right there

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so many good tracks

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I don't remember what fight it was, but I heard one track that was a lot like (good) nightcore

ionic lynx
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here's the link, Does mention when spoilers hit, but they talk about a lot of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oKM2TjBaqU

A chat with Clair Obscur: Expedition 33's composer, Lorien Testard, and the director of the game, Guillaume Broche.
In this one, we dive straight into the stories behind many of the tracks from the game's score and how they were made. Be warned, there's plenty of spoilers in this interview!

  • Full Interview with more questions and more music: h...
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frigid marlin
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I'll definitely have to watch later

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right now, I must watch a challenge run that... checks notes

ionic lynx
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is it the no parry/dodge one?

frigid marlin
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No dodging, parrying, jumping, gradient on expert mode

ionic lynx
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Oh, on expert? O.o

frigid marlin
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Yeeeeeah

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I beat the game on normal mode

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fuuuuuuuuuuuck even trying expert

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no achievement tied to it nor a secret ending. That's just a pure personal satisfaction kind of difficulty to play.

ionic lynx
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yeah, I'm good here on story, heh.

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I'm already usually just late enough before the parry window increase, heh

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And finally found the expedition 60 picto. yeah, that's fun

fossil tendon
ionic lynx
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not sure about noble, although... aspects of that are there.
Finally beat super boss and achieved the highest level achievo at the same time

ionic lynx
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end battle funtimes||I think it's a bit Ironic that I have Verso doing the auto death/revival+death break at the start of every battle... including what I just did to the Renoir battle.||

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Man, it's so epic.

frigid marlin
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Yeah I basically didn't get to see any of the cool stuff during super boss or end game fights

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since I over leveled and grinded, the fights were

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instantaneous

frigid marlin
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I just found out ||Simon|| had a phase 3

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refer to my earlier statement about missing out on things due to one shotting bosses

ionic lynx
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I did have the erasure, than on the next run timed stuff out to skip it after rewuipping my other members, heh

green flame
fossil tendon
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i have seen people one-shotting him with old stendhal on hard

frigid marlin
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Maelle, Virtuose Stance, Mark, Gommage gradient attack

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over 100 million damage in one hit

frigid marlin
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I also used just about every increase damage pictos I could

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only took about 800 lumina?

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found out later there was a pictos that would have been super helpful that I missed somewhere

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which is a pictos that essentially double marks a target?

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the mark turns into a blue x