#Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
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Yeah IGN continue to be stupid, but that bug fix on the sword certainly explains a lot.
Like. I had always wondered why the one shots were so easy
It makes sense now. They weren’t supposed to be.
working towards that myself atm, gg
Any chance there are things that'll boost accuracy eventually?
Ha! No.
darn, okies
You can make your pew pews monstrous though. Relatively
9 shots to the face hyper buffed takes down most non elite fliers
doing the act 2 || Sirene ||dungeon and it feels like those are necessary, heh
Positive news, that boss isn’t considered a flier. But yeah. That dungeon can be rough.
fighting the fallen leaves dungeon first, I think i can take these guys, heh
Wasn't too bad for me, but my dudes were level 45 or so at that point
the fight after the bridge in there took me more tries than I'd like.
also update: Grosse Tete is NOT actually missable.
theres a respawning version of it (act 3) ||sky manor||
the charm lady is an absolute piece of GARBAGE. hate her. hate her so much. also that bridge was freaky.
I started dodging instead of parrying all the charms for that one, window was a bit too tight but that seemed to do it
I never tried to figure out the parry timing
far far too risky
but yeah you dodge after the second poof
and to my knowledge that is the appearence ALL charm attacks take.
realizing piercing shots adds to dmg just now was nice
I have yet to see a charm inducing attack that is not the triple poof
which, honestly, props for consistency.
theres a lotta enemies that have the -max health status effect and theres basically never a proper indication.
I really appreciate the amount of tells this game has in consistency and in general?
its been nice for the most part
except afformentioned max health reduction
but I think theres a picto that makes you immune
the only status effect I dont believe theres an immunity for is Inverted?
aye, the few i've encountered with that, I usually can't beat
the trick is to give up on parries.
no seriously I had to beat that into my skull over the course of like 7 team wipes
but, parry my beloved!
our platypus can't help us yet q.q
It took me until now to get that joke.
Act 3 ||Okay I take back what I said about Clea. Talked to her in the “endless” tower after beating it. Well not her a specter of her made by her. Whatever. She… understands this mess and is…. Actually trying to help people? Trying to get them to do what needs to be done to put things right? God damn.||
||why is this actually really deep character moment just, stuffed into a random area??? like. The hell. Respect but what the hell.||
As far as I know I’ve now gotten every picto outside of the final zone…. Time to attune em and figure out how much lumina I need.
I really really like the duels/ ||merchant|| fighting music
I believe in you
Also, with the bug fix…. Even with…. Just about every single damage buff
The one shot is no longer possible
Farming just got
A lot slower
ouch
I mean
To be clear
That damage WAS absurd
It was literally insta killing post game enemies on accident
The fact that I have to hit 2 more buttons aint the worst thing ever
It just doubled farm time from like 9 seconds to 18 seconds
It’s a non issue
Okay the one thing I expected to find but never did, an ability that turns basic attacks into AOEs. Never found a weapon, or a picto, or a buff. Nothin.
they do let basic attacks get kinda strongk, so that's kinda funky
Yeah
wonder if it was a programming thing or they meant it for a specific character at some point
My basics on Maelle right now: have 4 swings, generate 4 energy for each of those swings, break, apply defenseless, give me powerful, and like 5 other things I’m forgetting.
But no AOE
maybe even health back?
Don’t ask what I need 16 energy per turn for. I need it. Totally. Mhm.
Oh right yeah 15% of that every swing
oh my. Sireso is neat. character's perfection bonus applies to allies instead.
30% sorry forgot I had a heal doubler.
Handy.
I like Gaulteram
You lose 1 perfection on hit instead of 1 rank
Okay, i can see that
Anyways long story short if there is something in this game (besides AOE) you want a basic attack to do, I assure you there is a way.
Am now on Act 3.
Chromatic abberation just a bit too hard for right now, heh
I have about half the timing and not enough health
not a lotta friendly places post damage uncapping/act 2. I'd reccomend going after ||Spronk|| when ya can.
they fall pretty quick once your damage is no longer limited
I basically stopped fighting chromatics once act 2 started
they arent that bad
ish
it depends on how much grinding youve done
only..... 6 chromatics have ever scared me and they were in postgame areas.
everything else aint that bad
comparatively
also a funny, took me til just about end of act 2 to get professional(kill a boss without taking damage) and it was one that bound you
back to frozen hearts with limit break 😄
Nice
Honestly I’m glad that you can legitimately play the game completely normally, and be perfectly fine, or you can be like me and do your best to break it, and both are an enjoyable experience
Only other game I know that did this so well was cassette beasts.
And cassette beasts is one of my all time favorite games.
on cassette beasts, their recent update added more story for sunny
Yup. Twas an excellent romp of self discovery and dating.
2nd crash I've had in the game so far, and this time I only had the game up for ~3 hours
autosave was convenient tho. yay modern gaming for not losing hours of progress
Yeah the game really doesn’t like menus being open and popups.
Those are the 2 consistent things I’ve found for crashes.
I'm not sure if you'd know, but does increased base attack damage affect most things or just the basica attack swing?
JUST the basic
okies
Anything that specifies basic means only basic
But, those swings are still real good. And their upgrades are fairly cheap lumina wise.
Alrighty. So. Maelle now has every lumina equitable without going to the final area. Yaaaaaay……..
Extra fun fact. Kill me.
Well almost every
I don’t have some of the negative / situational ones
Or the ones that consume AP
But anyways for every neutral/positive lumina
There ya go
~1452*
*not counting the final zone
So in total the rest I need for just my main 3 is….
~2460
God help me
What have I done
If I want everyone else too that’s another like. 2650.
So
Like
5,000 more
I’ll have over 80 million credits by the end
Yay?
Or. In other words
If I am perfect
19.5 hours of playtime
If lumina resets in NG+ I will actually cry
Actually I should maybe check that
It is not reset thank god
Hoooh
Oh hey all enemies get a difficulty bump too! Shame it’s just stats.
But yay! Proper NG+ that doesn’t screw me over!
Although
That is presuming worst luck
Average is closer to 2 lumina per run
But is guaranteed at one.
So depending
Who knows
But I’m off to fight an endgame boss
Wheeeeee
Oh hey that’s a second boss that the game has verbally warned me not to fight
Fun
Act 3 superboss ||so both super bosses were painted over by Clea. That’s actually a really cool through line.||
I think I glitched out the game
Maelle is getting endlessly revived.
That’s
Not meant to happen
Also the boss…. Is unbreakable
And that sure don’t feel intended
So
Um
I’m chalking this up to we take those
Also… yeah there’s. Things are happening that shouldn’t be
Something is broken
And I don’t know what did this
Probably my lumina spam
Yeah so since this began: my burns no longer increase my crit rate, Maelle infinitely revives, the boss cannot be broken, and probably some other things I’m missing.
I just wanted a fair fight and the game is literally crumbling apart.
probably a case of
holy fuck i have to call so many passives when ANYTHING HAPPEN AAAAA

Oh RIGHT! The boss has been IMMUNE TO MARK
Which
I’m just guessing is unintentional at this point
Maelle just indomitable human spiriting this guy
“I didn’t hear no bell”
Oh. He has an enrage that just
Auto loses you the fight
Huh

Hm.
Well after restarting the console hopefully that fixed things
Man is no longer immune to random nonsense. Whewh
Maelle endlessly getting up is apparently just, ALWAYS happening now.
And burn is no longer increasing my crit rate
HM
And all the other glitches are back
oof
Oh all my aim passives stopped working.
HM
Oh my heal doubling is gone too
HM
for a developer that has a public statement about wanting people to break their game. The fact they didn’t test “oops nearly everything” is astounding.
Also this boss MIGHT be overtuned. Given my only winning strat so far has been cheese abuse, maybe, just maybe, they overtuned him.
Okay so at 1/3rd health he just auto wins
What
Well sorry, he insta erases your party. Which might as well be a loss
So okay. Basically. From what I’m reading. This boss is just completely scuffed and an absolute monster.
The funny thing is I probably could legitimately win this fight if my passives didn’t keep breaking
Screw it. Off to get my other characters to 1500 lumina each
Cause this? This is nonsense.
Maybe by the time I finish my grind they’ll have bug fixed the nonsense
Because while immortal Maelle is funny….. it’s not what I want.
I want to ya know, play the game as intended. Make my silly builds. Not deal with glitching out passives that trivialize everything but this specific boss.
Good news! There’s a proper bug reporting forum. Now to explain this madness.
well. now the waiting game
There are ways. ||to get past the 3rd phase wipe, you have 2 options; gear up your reserve team, or load up for one big hit to bypass the health threshold that triggers it. for general progression, if you can figure out how to dodge or parry the 9 swipe combo that downs your whole team, you're on the right track||
Yeah so. The issue. Is that my passives stop working after phase 2 starts due to a “hilarious” glitch where Maelle becomes immortal.
Lemme get the video I recorded.
oh, i've seen that one
it's fun
i avoided stendhal and beat everything before that patch hit
||https://youtu.be/gWPUrDIysQ8||
superboss spoilers
No. It really isn’t.
That patch really only affected my lumina farm. And by then I already had all the tools I needed to continue without much of a care.
Act 3 optional ||Alicia battle music is super rad. Just wish I could listen to it longer cuz the fight was Over so quickly.||
||the act 3 bosses are legitimately “squishy nothingburger” or “godslayer chad 1500 blade of miquela”||
Act 3 optional fun quote|| "I demand Trial by Combat." "...Please help me."||
Eheheheheeeeh oh that was a fun one
not entirely scrolled up, just was when I saw this message, I remember asking what NG+ entails, does it have more content? or just "the same but with some of your previous stuff (like levels/lumina/money/etc.) and/or harder enemies"
(I don't think this is spoiler-worthy? I think people would rather know than "find out for themselves")
Enemies get harder, you keep everything you actually need, higher leveled Pictos, and enemies drops change slightly.
I guess.
It’s everything I personally like outta NG+
I like NG+ when it adds more things
or when the regular game has stuff that isn't entirely feasible until NG+
(though I like the latter far less)
That’s just called needing to grind more
hence "entirely" xD
Fair
I often like to choose words that imply the right thing, as much as I'm bad at reading implication
(especially when it could be spoilery)
lol
Well. Back to lumina farming. Maybe by the time I’m done they’ll have fixed this stupid glitch.
Because this ain’t funny. It was neat. The first time.
those are probably the most frustrating kind of bug
Yup
(didn't censor myself, oh well)
I've been calling it a French jrpg
but Je'RPG is 
Hell yes
lol, me and a friend were breaking down reference material that E33 likely took a lot from
Ex33 took inspiration from: yes.
from what we've gathered, Lost Odyssey (QTE special bonuses), FFX (turn tracker), Persona 5 (stylized nonsense)
(not literally taken from, but the similarities are uncanny)
all that into this
trying to find other references
but those hit hard
(for the Lost Odyssey shot)
and that's just for combat
not including everything else
I mean. eh. other games have had QTEs, other games have had turn trackers, other games have had stylized things. those are not the specific sources. they are merely recent examples.
yes, we were just trying to figure out the most obvious popular ones
and it reeks of P5, stylistically
Mario and Luigi.
I honestly don't think that one is often considered, no offense to the game
(good game, albeit easy and frustratingly simple, but nintendo so it's fine)
It reeks of the collective consciousness, the mindscape, which is what Persona is known for, but is not its unique thing.
I guess a better term is.. it reeks of ATLUS
Fair
the UI, I mean
not many other devs/pubs have such... flashy UI's
and the positioning of everything is spot on for specifically P5
super hard to argue against that one xD
oh yeah absolutely I legitimately have nothin for that
I thought you moreso meant the stylistic choices in the world and what not
I know, I just can't get over how spot on it is xD
ohhhhh
nah nah nah
world-wise... that's tough
it's got hints of modern and classic FF, Xeno, and umm... definitely LO
with its own twist
and a weird dash of Soulsbourne
(visually)
though I guess there's some crossover between LO and SB
nah nah you want the artistic dashes Ive been seeing?
GRIME
Stonedrich
that stylistic
GRIME
yeah the video game
erm, I realized I tried to scream it
Parting Shade - Face the grueling platforming challenges of the Abandoned Opus, a new Area which lies at the top of the Weeping Cavity.
Tinge of Terror - NG+ Mode added, along with Major modifications to existing Bosses, and an entirely New Boss, Music & Weapons.…
$24.99
3960
81
yeeeeaaaaahhhh
first area of E33 vibes
you know what Im talkin about
oh right
the stonedrich vibe, it goes hard
(stonedrich being if lovecraft was afraid of rocks instead of water)
lol yeah
but yeah theres a lotta grime adjacent stuff and I am all here for it
enemy designs, locations, concepts, the god damned BLACK HOLE MOTIF
tbqh, I love how it's "pretty cosmic horror"
and it's got stone
water
fire
ice
etc.
no seriously the black hole motif is just, ohhhhh its so good
yeah it only shows up in like late act 2/act 3 but hooooooooh
THE BOY
Black Hole, Son
Won't you come
wash away AH FUCK
man, I need to play GRIME again
it's so pretty
I love gorgeous darkness
or dark gorgeousness?
Yes.
both.
although now that we speak of it I have been reminded.
YOOOOOOOOOON MY BOY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
WE WERE FRIENDS
IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAYYYYYYYYYYY
alright emotional trauma dumpped Im off to eat some lunch
E33 is emotional trauma the game, seasons 1-X
like they looked at the games that ripped our hearts out and were like "let's do that over and over again, but let's mix up the pacing so they can't get used to it"
“So you see we START at the emotional peak right?”
“Right yeah where do we go from there though?”
”HIGHER”
The thing is in between each moment the game gives you just enough wholesomeness to push you forward, to take that next step, only to gut you again. It’s so brilliantly done.
and those moments aren't always the same amount of time
it even teases you both directions
like "this might be awesome!" "nope."/"oh this is gonna suck" "awesome things!"
The gestral are a weird epitome of that*
lol
Is facing the paintress a Point of No Return?
Sorta. Lot of cutscenes, but than you are good?
good as in you can continue exploring afterwards?
yes
yeet
this is wonderful news
Have fuuuuuun Susan.
no u
I already had my emotionally destroying reality shattering cutscene spree. Now I’m in FarmVille, stabbin my way through the same merchant thousands of times.
Currently at 16 mil / 80 mil cash
When I hit 80 I should be BASICALLY done with all my lumina farming
But
Things may happen
I likely lowballed it
:3 (though I didn't quite catch it as a reference, I thought you literally meant farmville for a moment xD)
Close enough I’ll take it.
is there an infinite lumina merchant? I thought it was that you got lumina for winning, not from buying from the merchant
Yes I’m stabbing him. I’m using credits as a way to keep track
Cause from where I sit the lumina number is hard to see
But the money is in nice big text.
I’ll send boomer screenshot as example
which merchant?
The one in ||Renoir’s Drafts|| underwater area (act 3)
Every enemy there drops lumina but that merchant is the only GARUNTEED
Others are merely near garunteed.
tyty
well...
ending spoilers ||man it's so cruel, both ending are so cruel but stopping Verso and pushing Alicia out of the canvas was the only reasonable choice||
I don’t like the sound of that well
@frigid marlin boomer screenshot I promised
See how it’s basically impossible to see the lumina number but chroma is dirt easy.
It’s a screenshot showing basically my vision from my bed. Which is where I lumina farm from
Photo
What have you
Technically there is a screen in the shot
Honestly I’m just surprised nobody’s asking questions about the knickknacks on my desk.
I like the snake
I hate this conversation, not because it's bad, but because of every moment being silly and facepalm worthy
xD
"truly boomer-worthy" o\ "this is where I lumina farm" o\ "that's not a screenshot" o\ "technically there's a screen" o\\\
Ah yeah
y'all are goofy and I love y'all

Its name is Snakey.
original <3
Cause. I’m great with names.
Sometimes I'm even names with great
it's okay, my Grunty from .hack//SIGN is "Grunty", and my Pikachu is "Pika", I'm just as excellent as you are
my wife's massive 12ft long colorful centipede plushy thing is just "Pete" (from "'Pede", though I guess that's kind of clever)
Awwww
really annoying plushy because it's... huge and unweildy
but it's soft and makes a good pillow
(I won it for her at the fair one year, back before we got married)
Hell yeah
we normally have it draped on the back of the futon, as a "throw pillow" for when it's down
our nieces love it when they visit xD
Ya know the funny thing
If Colour of Lumina was infinitely buyable
I’d have like
5 times more than enough cash to max out my party and then some
But no
Couldn’t have that

Welcome back to Grinding with Gurmudgin. Today’s grind: the same annoying ass hellscape I’ve been doing for the past week. Dear god I wanna slap these devs upside the head for making endgame farming so slow.
My brother is only at Forgotten Battlefield and has already guessed major plot points from the next few areas
god damn
They aren’t that hard to see coming.
I certainly didn't see some of them coming and I'm pretty good at guessing plot points in things
I will say, the majority of the plot points (if they're the ones I'm thinking of) are basically taken out of the Final Fantasy Playbook™️
(and I mean that endearingly)
Eh there’s some good twists on em, but while I wouldn’t say I “knew” what was coming I had…. Ideas.
Act 3 ||The Paintress not actually being the cause/badguy was my top theory. And look how that played out. Then again her visual language speaks to that quite a bit. The world not being the world was another I called. Some of the minutia I got caught up in, but broad strokes I saw coming.||
I can’t be the only one who hears Hollow Knight in the first few measures of the title screen music, right?
Seems legit
broadly speaking, it's the same sub-genre of neo-classical
if you take away the French lyrics from some of the tracks, one of the main differences is the use of... and this is pretty mindblowing to me now that i type it... CHROMATIC SHIFTS
as in the Expedition 33 soundtrack uses them but Hollow Knight does not
god i love this game
I have not been able to play this game in almost 3 weeks. I am gonna get boddied when I come back
Nah. You’ll be fine.
My friend got back from Acen recently and he showed me some pics of some Clair obscur: cosplays and I somehow didn't even think that'd be a thing. Kinda rad to already see folks doing it. One of his pics had a group of mimes with an E33 banner
Just beat ||Renoir|| with ||Gustave's Homage||
Now that's a fitting end to a boss fight
nice
Now for the most time consuming part of any RPG
backtracking
I’ll do as much searching on my own as I can before I resort to a guide to find stuff I miss
I had thought I had gotten most of everything but that was oh so wrong. Had like 4 guides open saying “you fool, you missed 17 glowies in this level”
hahaha
I'm pretty good at finding glowies
theres a couple in the cliffs level I just couldn't figure out how to get to
Might be able to now, though
cause I have the blue rock smasher thing
and many chromatic enemies I gotta fight
The cliff had like. 3 I didn’t realize were even there. Most other levels had 1-2. But cliffs. Oh cliffs.
there was definitely a point at which I decided I would leave chromatic enemies for free roam section
also sprong
Cliffs was cruel I tells ya.
gotta fight sprong
Legitimately do that ASAP.
TLDR: ||dude drops a picto that makes you always take a second turn after acting||
I really appreciate the ||damage limit breaker|| didn't cost insane lumina
yeah but with my experience in RPGs (especially ones like FFX), I was expecting it to be priced higher
Fair
now
holds a chromatic sword to gurms head
where's the merchant
lumina farming merchant
1: you cannot kill me in a way that matters.
2: underwater between the two boss islands.
Enjoy the level 90+ area! Hope you’ve been grinding!
@frigid marlin right there ish.
I'll go fight sprong once I'm done backtracking through flying waters
I'm sorry, "legitimately do that asap"
bruh
28k damage and I barely scratched it's health
Oh I'm having fun
I just managed to uh
glitch myself out of the map
okay just outside spring meadows is the return point on the map if it can't place you where you were when you camped
Neat
Where's the best place to go around level 55s for farming
Dark coast?
Yeah go there
Southern most area on the map. Dark n spooky
Or wait NO DONT GO THERE
or
Hm
…..
Where was I grinding at 55…..
I think I was grinding in Frozen Heart?
Yeah
That sounds about right.
good to know
Dark Coast is where I did weapon level grinding because there’s guaranteed +32 upgrade mats from each fight.
But it’s also like a level…. 70ish area? I think?
Frozen heart was the first good place for me to grind in act 3. is a good spot there to grind some of the weapon upgrade mats too. If you have great reflexes, it can be a decent place to grind before act 3, but that'd make for minimum 3 min fights
"now, if black knight can counter the counter, You'd bleed!"
I can see why this would be a good place to train even before act 3
very easy parry windows
I'm missing 13 journals
can't wait to find them all
yeah
heads and faces
people love making walls of those things
they're in Outward, too
Verso's Mark attack is so strong
Defiant Strike
Even without the correct letter Grade, it's regularly dealing 20 to 50k
per hit
its a 2 hit attack
only costing 3 ap
I like his light beam pew pew 7 striker.
Just found a merchant that sells a bunch of pictos at level 20
yup
theres a good handful of those types around
theres another for like the high 20s
and then one that sells a good few at 31
They are quite expensive. But since I didn't grind as much as our grinding friend here, haven't been able to tap it much
I'm finally strong enough to fight Noires
I need a good source of Resplendent Chroma Catalysts though
so many of my weapons are in that range of needing to be upgraded
yeah so on that front you're just kinda screwed.....
the best solution?
kill an absolute boatload of enemies
and buy out every single merchant
but mainly
RNG drop chance of like 1% or something
I am so confused about how that battle ended
I was fighting Gross Tete
and then it jsut
blew up
resplendant is the one just below top tier?
I seem to have been able to get a reliable chunk from enemies at the 2nd or 3rd flag in Frozen heart of the tier right below that I think, And than reliable from the dark shore enemies
Yeah he does that after a certain number of turns survived.
I personally stabbed him really hard
And he died in agony.
Yeah turns out I'm not good at stabbing him really hard
but I am good at dodging
I just dealt 800k damage in a 1 hit attack
holy fuck
Maelle is the true mvp
Get counter while all buffs are up and can be regular 😄
Anyone done Endless Tower trials at all?
Yup! They’re. Hard.
The final one especially
If you haven't, it's a great way to get feet for Monoco
I got stuck on Stage 5 challenge 3
gonna take a while to beat that
Which one is that again? Enemy comp wise.
so i'm taking a break
chromatic trumpeter
chromatic abberation
and the hamme fucker that looks like he's from Little Nightmares
Oh the tower lad.
They start out instantly hella buffing each other
yes yes I know, stack speed
I went in with a hyperbuffed Maelle and killed them all in 2 rounds.
Legitimately that’s how I did the tower. Maelle solo v the world
Oh did you do it literally with just Maelle in the party
Including (final floor spoilers) ||buffed up paintress and curator/mom + pop. Final floor was weird. You’ll see.||
How else do you get that sweet +50% solo damage bonus
It should be noted. My Maelle has 1500 lumina. So
that'd do it
Results are…. Uhhh…. Difficult to replicate
There's at least 2 cheating death pictos. One where you get revived and the other where you just get set to 1 health instead
Ye. And then the glitched out third option I discovered.
I've just been using barrier breaker for Maelle
You wanna know the glitched out third option?
Uhhhh the ice Healy defense one
That's a good one
So turns out the game REALLY doesn’t like you equipping 1500 lumina worth of perks and throws a hissy fit upon your death letting you revive endlessly.
Uhhhh lemme boot up the game
Or do you mean Stalum
Just
the one that causes self burn butyou heal instead
I do not have those yet
I think I saw Coldum in a shop but didn't buy it
I think it's in Monoco's Station shop
Probably
I probably should use something else but like. I’ve been using it for most of my playtime it’s what I’ve gotten used to having. When I don’t have its effects I get confused.
same, gonna level more before i try again
I did it at level 99 on the bugged “Maelle was doing double damage” version. It is an endgame challenge through and through.
It's definitely a "hey now that you can fly go to this large ass tower you've been looking at the entire game"
and then you do it
and get your ass kicked
and go "fuck this game" and leave, never to return
until you do, after having leveled up a ton
and go "this was so easy"
and then got stomped hard on Stage 5, Fight 3
and so the cycle continues
My personal interactions were “that’s a huge ass tower I’m saving that for last”
Nice
Yeah, after going around for a while, I realized I should probably camp
And got all the hang outs done
That I could at least
It’s time for character side quests
Thanks to grinding, most have been easy so far
Who did you romance by the way
Or did you romance anyone
I did sciel. Felt more appropriate for some reason
I got Sciel as well by accident.
Sciel is fine, I just like nice science lady better
I just always spoke to people left to right so Sciel was always progressing before everyone else. I'm assuming that's what ended up leading to it
theres a specific dialogue option you had to choose which was flirty
well not even flirty
it was explicity "hey we're going off to battle you wanna fuck before we maybe die horribly?"
See I don't recall the dialogue option. Just a certain point hit where I'm all of a sudden sleeping with Sciel and good friends with everyone else. I was very confused
Hah. Nah I'm the kinda person who reads everything. It's why I refused to play BG3 and similar games with anyone. I won't subject them to that
See, we would have gotten along well in BG3 and similar games. I also do that but I always feel like I'm slowing everyone else down. I like flavor text!
see I read everything
I just
read really quickly
and then I stab the problems to make them go away
lmao
part of why I'm enjoying Monster Train 2 so much is all the flavor text attached to each card
to be fair, thats mostly because in BG3 my current main playtrhough that I chip away at every few months is a kill everyone durge playthrough
so
that colours my view a bit
ooooh tasty.
love card flavor text
Which one was ex 60 again?
Were those the guys who were constantly in a kill competition?
||they made it to the paintress though the power of muscle, no equipment||
God dayum. Respect.
||I mean the climbing expedition also got to her. In a sense anywho. They never saw her but they got damned close. And of course 00 made it. But 00 had plot armour. But yeah. Ex 60 and the climbing ex. Those two have mad respect from me.||
finally back to here and clearing out act 3 zones Fun picto i found ||Breaking Death?! that feels so rad||
inb4 the fanservice game E69
got to the paintress with the power of "I don't think that counts as love"
Have fun now
looks at all of the readily done fanservice in E33
There is apparently chad expedition 60, a bit late tho
Right there.
But yeah the other expeditions…. I wish there was more from them. A single snipet of a log is lovely and all but I wish there was more.
they prepared so much material for potential games on previous expedition
ngl, plenty of room for dlc
we "know" of the finality of the story for sure, but they would still be some interesting things
and I really hope "Clair Obscure" becomes a series
Clair Obscure Expedition 60(it's a beat 'em up)
outside of the expedition stories
I doubt we’ll get games on prior exs. But there’s more to this world to explore. There’s absolutely prep for DLCs, and Clair Obscur absolutely has potential for more games.
But. No need to rush.
Out, you’ve beaten the paintress ya?
Before anyone says anymore
I just wanna check
So far, we know dlc is in the works and was planned for. Otherwise in some interviews, they've insinuated importance of some specific things because they will not say any more about them.
Cause we might be deep in spoiler world.
art require time, patience and skill
let's not steal anything they need
Indeed.
But no seriously ouTPhaze have you beaten the paintress yet cause if not we might need to invest in some spoiler walling.
not yet, so might want to tag stuff properly
Ah yeah. Alright.
Other fun notes from interviews, at least 4 songs would have lived forever in the draft bin had the exec not randomly listed to em
Such as the real fun gestral ||duel musics||
man that one is such a great one
Act 3 ||Clair Obscur has massive potential well outside of this painted world. I think trying to come back to it would be a mistake though. Sure some DLCs, some comics or stories, but not another full game. We’ve seen the world’s finality. Going back after…. Everything would be… cruel.||
I agree
||no I’m not crying YOURE crying.
||
I'll probably grab the soundtrack at some point. They've got it officially out on YouTube for free, but I think I may make a cd of it for my car
I haven’t beaten the game fully yet, but as you know, I am in the ||“explore the world before the final battle” phase||
||we've seen the finality to Expedition, Clair Obscure world is still fairly unknown to us beside the artistic sphere owning a degree of power and creation ||
I just want to read the full lyrics for each song
When the game first came out, I could not find lyrics anywhere
||exactly. I wish to see the full broader world. Outside this families nightmare of a painting.||
I’m sure at this point that’s changed though
||it wouldn't be impossible we get game on the Writers, Compositors and other artistic talents||
I’ll probably go back and continue now that I’ve beaten dragons dogma 2
||They specifically didn't mention any more on the writers in a way that makes me think they will be key to new stuff||
||really I just wanna find the writers responsible for the fire, and stab them. Really. Really. Hard.||
If a friend wasn't coming over today, I'd be pushing through it, lots of good stuff to get through in the phase we are at Susan
Yeah, I’ve done a little exploring
I’m at the grind fest stage
Gotta do that to get to the ||super bosses|| stage
Are you trying to get max picto equip on everyone still?
I ended up at the abyss and got tired of the grind in the place immediately preceding that. Than went to the flying manor and everything has been feeling easy, heh
I plead the fifth
Is “||Renoir’s Drafts||” the underwater area you do grinding in, gurm?
Well
Good luck finding the merchant. He’s on a roof.
I still have some overworld stuff to do
Level backtracking, gestral kid finding and expedition logs
Fair nuff
Yeah I still can’t beat the uh
It hurt. A lot.
I don’t know what they’re called
Which things
The thing that’s both a Clair and Obscur with a little black hole in its top center
Also I gotta get the lumina together to equip everyone with blight immunity. Maybe stun immunity too
Handy
Indeed
I do truly recommend doing him as early as you can. But he is a beast.
I’ll give him a try in a minute
I have the game booted up
Just going through chats atm
Man literally gives you like the BEST item in the game. Not a joke or a lie or a bait.
Fair.
Oh so he drops perfect chroma catalysts
He might also drop a perfect but that wasn’t what I specifically meant.
once you get the limit breaker, Sprog is a much easier fight. Easy? not exactly. but easier
Susan has the LB.
It’s just Sprog being a wall.
(To be clear I dunno why sprog is a wall for them I kinda stabbed him dead but I’m also apparently good at video games so I dunno anymore)
it was just dodging stuff
but I've gotten better after farming at dark shores
dark chroma attacks and sprongs beam attacks are very similar
just beat sprong
I see what you mean now, gurm
Yuuuuuuup
Indeed.
Learning the beam parry timings is brutal but really helps.
Dark Shore is an excellent honing ground.
looks like a big patch just came in, increases parry windows for easiest mode and there are 297 patch fixes
Expeditioners,We have just rolled out a patch, and uploaded our first ever items to the Steam Points Shop! You have some unique Trading Cards to choose from, alongside a series of emoticons. We hope you love them! As for the patch, see our notes below where we have called out the most impactful changes.Tomorrow comes!Note 12:43 CEST - We are inv...
Okay, ||Cheater|| is a must for fighting Serpenphare
They don't list every bug fix in this version of the notes, they might elsewhere?
No it isn’t.
I beat him through gumption.
Raw brutal power.
Go fuck myself indeed.

Also it doesn’t say they fixed immortality through unlimited lumina works so…..

What amount of backtracking do you guys suggest before starting act 3? I’ve assembled about a dozen lvl 20+ chromas and am at ~lvl 60 on each character, but everything I’m fighting out here is a slog and feels like I probably shouldn’t be touching them
A lot of the enemies there have specific resistances or ways you are supposed to deal with them I think.
Pretty sure you should be good to get to it at that level
Just enter act 3.
Act 3 gives you the LB, and new tools.
I feel I was around 55 when I hit it and had explored almost every place that felt reasonable to do so at the time?
I was around 70, but I also had done some post act 2 zones cause yay brute force.
holy shit that's a great picto
just beat it
Alrighty, first weapon to ||level 33||
Rad
Same. I probably should use something else... but it makes her real easy to use. I haven't returned to the grind spot to face the biggest bad yet since I did that, doing flying manor first
BB is.... okay?
it ust.
like.
eh?
I dunno I like good ol ice fire healy sword
not the burn based one
just dont take damage
My lumina is currently like, 400 for maelle and the next highest are like, 140 and 150
Uhuh.
Small numbers.
I figured, I do want like 200 more for everyone but I do not like that kinda grind
Although, apparently parry windows got increased again, so 'might' be simpler than before. I think I'm on the easier difficulty? Will have to check when i get back home
Finally got Aberration's foot
one foot left to get
Holy shit
I just dealt 3.6 Million damage in one hit
A good counter can do some mean numbers
Not counter damage
Maelle Gradient attack ||Gommage|| in virtuoso stance
I dealt over 6M in an attack that was marked as well
I just got 100 color of lumina for never having killed a white nevron
I think I've gotten to around 4m with that move
yup. good times.
still. but a drop in the bucket. to equip everything you need I think its.... 1750ish?
depends on whats equipped of course.
and if we get more content.
the true count after the games full life cycle I guestimate to be around 2K.
point being. GRIND MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Or less
MOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR
i think if ound the merchant
theres literally only one merchant there. you found the merchant or you didnt
lmao
8.8M Gommage
Offensive Stance, lots of picto damage buffs and marked enemy
HOLY FUCK
HOW MUCH HEALTH DOES THIS BOSS HAVE
THE BAR BARELY MOVED
oH i'M LOVIN THIS
I haven't beaten em yet, heh
I'm almost certainly going to die here
I gotta come back once I'm at level 99
THE MUSIC TRACK
HOLY FUCK
ITS GOIN HARD
Oh Gurm, I've almost gotten the picto pop ups past the edge of the screen
I'm so close
Once I have all the Gradient % increases I can get activated onto Maelle, then I think I could probably fight this dude
Okay, in Virtuoso Stance and he's already marked
I'll let y'all know how much damage this does
FOURTEEN MILLION
Honestly
I got him under half health in my first attempt at phase 2
that's pretty damn good
Best I've done I think was a quarter down on phase 2
I'm not max level and I didn't set up pictos for the fight
Investt in Maelle
Her Gradient 3 attack, ||Gommage,|| is so strong
I've got a lot on her, tho haven't been back since I maxed her weapon out. about 400 lumina
I've also got her around 400
Actually almost 500
498 to be exact
I've been using Barrier Breaker on her but a different weapon might be better. Something that inflicts burns, maybe, for the picto that gives gradient charge for burning
You want everyone to be working towards charging the Gradient asap
the sooner you get it to 3, the sooner you can deal millions
Preferably having him marked before Maelle's turn, as well
If I had realized how strong Maelle was, I would have been putting all my lumina in her from the start of the game
Gustave/Verso has early and mid power
but late game Maelle is just out of this world
I want to put more gradient chargers on my other party members, but gotta grind
Honestly, it might even be the strat to ignore the power of everyone else and make them gradient batteries for your heavy hitter
I haven't had anyone else come close to Maelle's damage per turn
I've heard Sciel's can get there but it takes a lot
Sciel's kit confuses me honestly
I'm not good withit
I haven't used Lune or Sciel for most of act 3
same
i just noticed glass cannon is mispelled
never mind
it's spelled the french way
cannon is spelled canon in french
Let us know when you get them under 35% or so 🙂
I mean it was definitely close to that
but I'll let y'all know haha
I'm currently doing grinding to level 99
I've gotten Maelle strong enough that the monster grinding is just being done with her solo
Also, Gurm didn't mention this, but you don't have to fight the merchant in ||Renoir's Drafts|| over and over for lumina. There are 4 enemies right nearby that drop both Lumina and Grandiose Chroma Catalysts
That I find arguably easier than the enemies in the merchant fight
The merchant isn't a solo fight, it's the merchant and one of those upside down things that make dog sounds and an Abberation
I usually made a circuit, hit the merchant, than rested. Rinse repeat
That would certainly measure the lumina gain out to 5 per run rather than 4
Once you hit max level, your experience to "level up" is marked as 0/33333333
…. Yeah. But the merchant is the FASTEST method for lumina.
I was talking about grind efficiency
I always was
I mentioned the other enemies a few times
The merchant is merely the BEST method
I'm now using my teammates as suicide bombs for the start of battles
The best part is that using the auto death picto doesn't count as taking damage for the fight, so you can still get the "No Damage" +20% bonus experience
Guess it also puts those solo boosts up
Yup
And the buffs from those boosts are further increased by other Pictos
Like the powerful buff getting 15% stronger
Also I just dealt 39 million damage
I really need to play again. Is my work Friday tonight, so I should get to it when I get home.
without even being in virtuose stance
I just did
100 MILLION DAMAGE
Image spoilered for super boss reasons
Any specific buffs you think attributed to it?
Oh, so many damage increase buffs
My pictos aren't as crazy as gurms
but I have Maelle's Lumina at 849 out of 855
I wish there was a training dummy in camp you could fight to test out damage and builds on
that would be awesome
Oh wow, I just found a picto that gives 25% increased damage at full health
now that would have been nice to have
yeah it would. Currently finished flying manor and working on the tower. O.o whar do that be?
From a merchant in Lumiere (not old lumiere)
You're not locked out of leaving once you enter, so don't worry about going in
gotcha gotcha
Just found another picto that would have increased that damage
25% increased damage with gradient attacks
my favorite one i've found is ||break all enemies on death||
yeah, i use that as part of my death bomb strategy
okay, just landing and going from the start of that zone is rad.
I can't wait for the dlc and for my boss to beat it, heh. He just got to act 3 and also has changed his phone wallpaper to esquie
Been playing in english or french?
Weirdly, I would describe this game as Grim, but not Grimdark
I'm tempted to do it again but with voices in french
I wonder how some of the scenes would land that way
Apparently the early Main music ||has lyrics that are jumbled a bit ala simslish but change to french for the final times they come up so that folks aren't spoiled||
That doesn't surprise me
maybe that's why I couldn't find any lyrics for them anywhere when the game first came out
There is a cool interview somewhere with the director, the composer, and a youtuber that dives into game music that's pretty solid and has fun mentions on that
the fact that this is the composers first professional work is wild
Lorien Testard - Lumière lyrics (French) + English translation: Dim dam talé l
Spoilers abound for reading the translation for sure
also that's fucking crazy
my favorite song, the one during|| Gestral Duels?|| A song in his draft bin that he never planned on doing anything with til the director heard it (by listening to his draft folder) and was like "That's a banger"
BRUH
that's awesome
we are our own worst critics in living example right there
so many good tracks
I don't remember what fight it was, but I heard one track that was a lot like (good) nightcore
here's the link, Does mention when spoilers hit, but they talk about a lot of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oKM2TjBaqU
A chat with Clair Obscur: Expedition 33's composer, Lorien Testard, and the director of the game, Guillaume Broche.
In this one, we dive straight into the stories behind many of the tracks from the game's score and how they were made. Be warned, there's plenty of spoilers in this interview!
- Full Interview with more questions and more music: h...
I'll definitely have to watch later
right now, I must watch a challenge run that... checks notes
is it the no parry/dodge one?
No dodging, parrying, jumping, gradient on expert mode
Oh, on expert? O.o
Yeeeeeah
I beat the game on normal mode
fuuuuuuuuuuuck even trying expert
no achievement tied to it nor a secret ending. That's just a pure personal satisfaction kind of difficulty to play.
yeah, I'm good here on story, heh.
I'm already usually just late enough before the parry window increase, heh
And finally found the expedition 60 picto. yeah, that's fun
So noble dark?
not sure about noble, although... aspects of that are there.
Finally beat super boss and achieved the highest level achievo at the same time
end battle funtimes||I think it's a bit Ironic that I have Verso doing the auto death/revival+death break at the start of every battle... including what I just did to the Renoir battle.||
Man, it's so epic.
Yeah I basically didn't get to see any of the cool stuff during super boss or end game fights
since I over leveled and grinded, the fights were
instantaneous
I just found out ||Simon|| had a phase 3
refer to my earlier statement about missing out on things due to one shotting bosses
I did have the erasure, than on the next run timed stuff out to skip it after rewuipping my other members, heh
How the hell did you oneshot him. I’ve been stuck on him for like over a month now.
i have seen people one-shotting him with old stendhal on hard
Maelle, Virtuose Stance, Mark, Gommage gradient attack
over 100 million damage in one hit
@green flame refer to this image for proof
I also used just about every increase damage pictos I could
only took about 800 lumina?
found out later there was a pictos that would have been super helpful that I missed somewhere
which is a pictos that essentially double marks a target?
the mark turns into a blue x

