#The Elder Scrolls Games

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dawn bone
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It’s 100% afk too

ancient nacelle
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Fuckin RuneScape players

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Smdh

ember pecan
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this is beyond runecsape

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this is crackhead OCD

upper garden
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I mean.... just Argoninan things

dawn bone
dawn bone
dawn bone
ember pecan
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No its libel

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its written

dawn bone
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…..

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Well played

upper garden
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Technically correct

dawn bone
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I wonder if bread stealing lady is dead yet.

ember pecan
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i wonder if the corpse-fucker is still in the game

dawn bone
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Probably

upper garden
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wow

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both of you same time

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yet so wild

dawn bone
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We had VERY different questions!

upper garden
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yeah

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that was a Jazz Music Stops moment

dawn bone
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Yeah

dusty python
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Am now warrior rank in arena.

upper garden
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So you are a wank now

dusty python
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heh

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I guess I am the corpse fucker

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I do tbag every opponent

dawn bone
dusty python
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It is fun mowing through most of the arena fighters over the course of a day with naught but a 1 hour power nap

dawn bone
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yeah

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just remember to be kind to the grand champion

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he's got crazy vampire powers

ancient nacelle
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There's people already doing master difficulty 1 life challenges

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ugh

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I'm only doing no fast travel

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some people's masochism is on a whole other plane of oblivion, i swear

dawn bone
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I mean if you're doing master diff 1 life challenges..... you'd basically take the same tact I have

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max grind skills

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to the ends of the earth

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Im personnaly not gonna do any challenges, or at least not yet.

ancient nacelle
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you kind of are already

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"how high a level can I get before seriously starting the game"

upper garden
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I just do minimal to no fast travel
And level up only at Inns or my homes

ancient nacelle
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I level up anywhere i can, but that's a fun restriction

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Only sleeping in "safe" places

dawn bone
ancient nacelle
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rejected

dawn bone
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looks at the wall of skills I’m planning on grinding

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noooo I’m being normalllll

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Abby Normal!

ancient nacelle
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At least you're actually forced to engage with the game for speechcraft

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you can't afk that

dawn bone
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IT BURNSSSSSSSS

upper garden
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I like this Better HUD mod

dawn bone
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I just wish my bars were always displayed

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but yeah current plan is to get up: athletics, all magics I currently have access to, and.... maybe one more thing to 100.

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so thats gonna be 3 more things after athletics +1 if I can find something

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and then Im gonna just

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wander the world ignoring the MSQ

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Im hopping with maxed out speed manual travel will actually be.... kinda fun

ember pecan
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i'm used to skyrim

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so i like the hud

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that and doing the same minimal fast traveling

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except for repeats

dawn bone
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I honestly kinda miss these badboys

upper garden
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which is why I like the Better Hud mod

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makes it a bit more like old

dawn bone
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reasonable enough

ember pecan
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i haven't played enouhg

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but i hope the cities have the character they have in skyrim

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where each city was radically different

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i did wish they took the time to make areas bigger

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and not loading screens constantly

ancient nacelle
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Considering you get no stamina cost sprint from maxed athletics

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Sprint being in the remaster is so nice

ember pecan
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3rd person sprint is goofy

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its like you're bent at near 90 degrees

dawn bone
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its adorable

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its so adorable

dawn bone
ember pecan
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hmm

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red candles

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this is not a sign of good guys

dawn bone
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nooooo. red candles mean life! happyness! friendly! think of colour theory!

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colour theory!

ember pecan
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AH RAPTOR

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i'm just clubbing nerds

wanton hill
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okay no

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THIS IS NOT OKAY

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robes hides tail xc

dawn bone
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NOOOOOOOOOO

ember pecan
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hmm

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why does this dungeon have looney tune traps

wanton hill
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more enchants

dawn bone
wanton hill
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clothes

dawn bone
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If you wear armour, any, your magic caps out at…. Oh

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I’m

wanton hill
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95% with light armor at 100

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unless robes offer more than 200% enchantment efficiency it's not worth using it

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double more so as it hides argonian's tails

dawn bone
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True

ember pecan
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love the physics of ragdolling

ancient nacelle
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is it greedy to want them to do a remaster of Morrowind with the Oblivion remaster graphics now?

ember pecan
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Not inherently no

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"next year" yeah

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but not wanting it done, not at all

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before TE:6 - depends on who you ask

ancient nacelle
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Yeah I mean, this is a project that I'm sure took years to get done

dawn bone
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I’d like it done eventually but…. Yeah. Not this instant.

ember pecan
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based on the sales of the remaster

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and the player numbers

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i do not doubt that Morrowind will come

rugged meteor
# dawn bone

Color theory don't mean shit when you've made a line of red in a hospital.

dawn bone
rugged meteor
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Also, in regards to this: OG Oblivion, Resto only got XP if the spell actually had an effect. For healing spells, that meant healing at least 1 point, for Turn Undead, it meant successfully turning the undead, for Drain Life, successfully dealing at least 1 damage.

dawn bone
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Had to jump off bridges.

rugged meteor
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Or Damage [any type] 1 (Self) Heal 1 (self).

dawn bone
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Yeah

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But that required the mages guild

rugged meteor
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Or Frostcrag.

dawn bone
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And the longer I can avoid them, the better

dawn bone
cinder plinth
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got accepted to uni KEK

ember pecan
cinder plinth
rugged meteor
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The Cyrodiil Mages Guild does not do extortion fees.
Only spell crafting and enchantment recharge fees.

ember pecan
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Unlike Skyrim university that is just Brigham Young University with a brain damaged elder god underneath that begs for you to join

rugged meteor
cinder plinth
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so with magic how can I see what level is needed to cast a spell? I made a spell and it says my skill level is too low but not how much I need

ember pecan
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should have a tag

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of apprentice, etc

dawn bone
cinder plinth
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unless I am blind

dawn bone
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you might be?

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the spell should specify SOMEWHERE

rugged meteor
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If it's the same as in OG, it should be in the "popup" on the side that shows the actual effect of the spell.

cinder plinth
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I mean if you can see it please point it out

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rugged meteor
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In OG it would've been next to the Spell School, up at the top there under the Spell Name.

Wonder why they removed it...

dawn bone
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weird.

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spell tiers still exist

wanton hill
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the spells will either tell you if your skill level is too low or if you don't have enough magicka to cast it

cinder plinth
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if you don't have the skill it says this but not how much is needed

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wanton hill
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it must be one or more tier above your current

rugged meteor
ancient nacelle
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Nearly got one shot by a vampire matriarch

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she in mid axe swing while I t ype this

wanton hill
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but heh... yeah knowing the precise tier would be helpful

ancient nacelle
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I am very dead

cinder plinth
rugged meteor
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Assuming that's still the same as OG, at least. It's different scalings per school, but always direct proportionality, in OG.

dawn bone
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Yeah there’s just no indicator. Weird.

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Athletics 75! Final stretch!

cinder plinth
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yeah weird choice by them

dawn bone
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Maybe they just forgot?

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Idk

cinder plinth
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I think my spell went wrong. the fire won't go out

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ember pecan
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limitless energy

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you've struck gold

cinder plinth
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I just love that the menu puts it out for like 1 second

ember pecan
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making bitching stakes

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through potions

cinder plinth
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isn't this the point of the university. SCIENCE Magic

ancient nacelle
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did anyone else get a guard and a worker attack another worker when walking up to skingrad?

ember pecan
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no but i'm heading there now so i can respond if it does

cinder plinth
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I don't remember seeing that

dawn bone
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Who knew gaining .03 xp per second was going to be so slow? (Rates from old oblivion, unknown current rates)

ancient nacelle
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It was the entrance next to the vineyard

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And stable

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Dude had a stolen pear on his inventory

dawn bone
ancient nacelle
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Nope, was a dude

dawn bone
ember pecan
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oh skingard has the corpse-fucker

ancient nacelle
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Also the paranoid man

ember pecan
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one of the merchants will ask you what the fine is for necrophila

ancient nacelle
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Glanthir

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And nirnroot man

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And ||vampire|| count

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Which is an open secret in town

dawn bone
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Yeah so, if you recall, oblivion has an actual economy in effect? NPCs have coin and pay for food. If they don’t have coin and can’t earn any…. They steal food.

So there’s a few NPCs that at some point will steal, and get murdered by the guards.

ancient nacelle
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One of those “everyone knows but no one says” things

dawn bone
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Walls n all

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But there’s a handful of others. Pear Man I have the faintest recollection of.

ancient nacelle
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isn't there also an npc that goes on a daily task to eat food but if you steal it from his inventory, it crashes the game?

shut cradle
dawn bone
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Look this ain’t Skyrim, stealing food for healing is super inefficient. Food weighs way too much.

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Unless you’re doing poisoned apple Strats

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THEN, steal ALL THE FOOD.

ancient nacelle
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Yeah but food is worth fatigue potions

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and thats a good way to make money

dawn bone
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True….

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Orrrrrr, you could just hoard items.

ancient nacelle
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Lmao nah

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I like alchemy

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alchemy is much more fun in oblivion than skyrim

dawn bone
dawn bone
ancient nacelle
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I also generally like the vibrancy of the environment in oblivion

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skyrim is

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dreary

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in a word

dawn bone
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I mean

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that is the point

ancient nacelle
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Nah

dawn bone
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it is the northern most outpost of the empire

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its a baren wasteland no sane person should live in

ancient nacelle
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The color palette they went with was not to my tastes

dawn bone
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yeah. lotta white and blue. hard on the eyes.

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but oblivion is very pretty. especially now with updated graphics

ancient nacelle
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I hate desert environs a lot and I would literally rather have had the whole game be in a barren desert and that would still have been more fun than the dreariness of Skyrim

dawn bone
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personally, I like Vardenfelle the best.

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but

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that game.... has its own issues.

rugged meteor
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The instrumentals included.

dawn bone
shut cradle
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cringe AI vs based sentence mixing

rugged meteor
dawn bone
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of course.

ancient nacelle
dawn bone
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Dagothwave is nearly impossible to top. mayhaps one day.... maybe.... but unlikely.

ancient nacelle
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Dagothwave is literally my favorite

dawn bone
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I love that the backing synth is literally just Dagoth Ur going "ooh" but butchered to hell and back.

ancient nacelle
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And not favorite song

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I mean

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FAVORITE

dawn bone
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"COME AND LOOK UPON THE HEART, UPON THE HEART"

cinder plinth
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gotta love the classic "I think they're right behind me"

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dawn bone
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I can't wait til someone recreates "have you heard of the high elves"

rugged meteor
shut cradle
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how do i level mercantile quickly

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I gotta GRIND

dawn bone
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lemme find it

ancient nacelle
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Damn, I missed nearly an entire 15 minute chapter of this audiobook cause I got caught up in this conversation

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Time to restart it

rugged meteor
dawn bone
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"You gain 0.4 experience points per sales transaction, regardless of the number of items being sold, the value of the items, or the setting of the barter slider. You do not gain any experience for buying items, except for spells (for which you gain 0.4 experience points per spell bought). You also do not gain any experience for giving away zero-value items."

rugged meteor
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And then buy shit.
And then sell it back.

dawn bone
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so

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yeah

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buy and sell and buy and sell and buy and sell

dawn bone
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but I find it UNLIKELY

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but we have already found leveling discrepancies (see restoration grinding)

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so

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it might be better rates

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who knows

rugged meteor
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Also, I'd recommend using a Mercantile Trainer for your initial grind.

dawn bone
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yeah

rugged meteor
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Once you cap them, then you start the grind of buy and sell and buy and sell.

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You'll burn through less gold that way.

shut cradle
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and now i have no money again

dawn bone
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yup that do be training for ya

rugged meteor
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Make sandwiches out of bread and cheese.

dawn bone
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I reccomend robbing their shop

rugged meteor
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The sandwiches are made in your Alchemy equipment.

dawn bone
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wait you can make sandwitches.

shut cradle
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I logged off after grinding sneak from 15 to 56 last night so i could try to steal it back

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cuz that felt like a ripoff

rugged meteor
dawn bone
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ahhhhh

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fair

shut cradle
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oh really 👀

rugged meteor
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Yeah. Any standard food item, as long as it's not rotten, can be used in alchemy equipment for potions of healing.

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If you have bread as one of the ingredients, then you're making a sandwich.

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Once your alchemy gets high enough, you can start making sandwiches worth hundreds out of just Bread and Cheese.

ember pecan
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100 Is the max attribute

dawn bone
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Yup

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Well

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Max baseline

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cackles in fortify loops

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The only issue is hard caps start to be a problem. Such as pickpocketings 85% cap

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EIGHTYYYYYYYY

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TWENTY MORE LEVELS TO GOOOOOO

dawn bone
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theres like 10 levels left

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I do not think this skill was ever intended to hit 100

ancient nacelle
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What’re you grinding right now? Athletics?

dawn bone
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Im swimming, have it as a major skill, and havent stopped for....

ancient nacelle
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so

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how are you going to kill anything

dawn bone
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ah yeah FOUR HOURS.

rugged meteor
dawn bone
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all roads lead to stealth archer

ancient nacelle
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you're better off going for dagger sneak attacks and 100% chameleon

rugged meteor
ancient nacelle
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along with high luck for crits

dawn bone
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nah.

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see

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Ill shoot them

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and then run away

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and then shoot them again

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and then run away

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and then shoot them

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and run away

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also Ive been maxing out my health boosting stats so if nothing else MY health is massively inflated as well

rugged meteor
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Run away too far and they heal.

dawn bone
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one held together through madness and insanity

ancient nacelle
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oh god they made glarthir even creepier

dawn bone
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oh?

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screenie?

ancient nacelle
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playing on xbox

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so, no screenshot

rugged meteor
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Not even a boomer screenshot from a phone?

ancient nacelle
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nope

dawn bone
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damn

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guess Ill just have to find Glarthir myself at some point

rugged meteor
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I mean, you could go to Skingrad at any time to see him, I suppose.

dawn bone
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Orrrr

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I could grind more…..

rugged meteor
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Since you're grinding Athletics, you could just go and see him while continuing to run around to level Athletics.

dawn bone
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Wouldn’t level enough.

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Also

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Running has worse xp rates than swimming

upper garden
rugged meteor
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Pretty sure Skingrad has a fountain you can swim in. :P

dawn bone
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Well hopefully I’ll be 100 in the morning

rugged meteor
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Where are you swimming for the grind, btw?

upper garden
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Anywhere

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just swim down

rugged meteor
# upper garden just swim down

I ask because some places have Slaughterfish.
Slaughterfish are Cyrodiil's aquatic equivalent to Morrowind's Cliff Racers.

cinder plinth
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Except when you are trying to do the quest to kill like 13 of them and then suddenly they don’t exist

rugged meteor
ancient nacelle
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so far, it feels like dungeons have been revamped

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they feel tougher and longer than they used to

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which is good

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I like them

cinder plinth
rugged meteor
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Indeed. Really makes a fellow want to ||go to the Shivering Isles and mantle Sheogorath||.

ancient nacelle
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Oh also I've found a few hidden pieces

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like chests surrounded by mushrooms

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or breakable planks leading to a little nook with loot

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The cursed mine JUST KEEPS GOING

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I'm THREE INSTANCES DEEP

rugged meteor
ancient nacelle
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Finally completed it

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holy crap

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that took a while

upper garden
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Also I caved in
Switched down to adept
The third time a wolf two shot me was enough

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Blocking feels awful in this game

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It takes ages to pull up your shield after an attack making it basically useless

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Skyrims blocking was fast and responsive where you could cancel the attack to pull up your block

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somehow it wont let me here
Once attack input i have to wait the attack before shield goes up which defeats its purpose

shut cradle
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hey @rugged meteor @dawn bone i need alchemy help

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what ingredients, and where do I get them for;

A. Health Potions
B. Magicka potions

rugged meteor
shut cradle
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..

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not really helpful

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I mash them together in the alchemy menu and nada

rugged meteor
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Stuff like bread, cheese, common vegetables, and cooked meat.

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(Raw meat usually leads to other effects)

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This covers just about everything you want to know about alchemy, assuming they haven't changed it too much.

shut cradle
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.>
<.<

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rugged meteor
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Bread and cheese on their own do Fatigue, yes, because Oblivion Alchemy is wonky, but they also Contain Restore Health.

shut cradle
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?????????????

rugged meteor
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Or at least they should.

shut cradle
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what the fuck are you talking about man

shut cradle
rugged meteor
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Oblivion Alchemy likes to skip effects at lower ingredient counts when not at Master Alchemy rank.

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Also, the type of cheese matters.

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Different cheese types have different effect lists.

shut cradle
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i think youre cooked tbh

rugged meteor
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It's why there's that one joke comic about taking a slice of cheese wheel, and a cheese wheel with a slice cut out, and pushing them together, and getting a Potion of Fire Resist.

shut cradle
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ITS ALL FATIGUE

upper garden
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What is your alc level and how many of those effects can you see ?

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Alchemy is as simple as match 2

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Just mash together two ingredients that share an effect

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Rat meat and venison create either detect life or health don’t remember from yesterday

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also with just a mortar your potions will suck ass

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Need Retort , Alembic and Calcifier

rugged meteor
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Ideally all of Master or Grandmaster quality.

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Expert if you can't find anything higher.

shut cradle
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fuckssakes

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this game was fun until every enemy became a bullet sponge

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and it takes an entire mana bar to kill two guys

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two if im lucky

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maybe it takes an entire mana bar to get through some shitheel's fucking summon so i can try attacking them only for them to spawn another summon right away

shut cradle
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gold that i cant get because every dungeon is impossible

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because every enemy is immortal

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because I cant get potions to restore my health and magic

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Im in a fucking catch 22 of bullshit

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@upper garden @rugged meteor seriously what am I meant to do

upper garden
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What difficulty?
I seriously stepped down from expert to adept because early on now even a bloody dog ( not wolfs) would two to three shot me

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sneak attack with a silver dagger did maybe 5% of a bandits HP

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on the island where the capital is there is also a little dungeon
in there I found some wizards and a full set of alchemy gear

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also : quality is secondary first try to at least get novice gear

shut cradle
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i just went with the default difficulty

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adept iirc

upper garden
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Weird that enemies seem so tanky then

shut cradle
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yeah theyve gotten tankier and tankier as ive leveled up

upper garden
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That is also something

shut cradle
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and my stat increases dont seem to be making me do any more damage

upper garden
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level scaling

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stats for combat early on do not as much as the gear to scale it from doesnt benefit much from it

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Early gear is comparable to D-E scaling in souls games

shut cradle
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I dont play souls games

upper garden
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your stats barely influence the stats of gear

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at that low level/tier of gear

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What are you using atm ?
And your skill levels

ancient nacelle
# shut cradle

Okay, so. Alchemy in Oblivion is different than Skyrim. You can’t just mash stuff together to unlock its effects. You have to level alchemy to see more effects. You can get a free novice set of alchemy gear by joining the mages guild in any city. Once you’re in the guild, most any item laying around is free to take and there is always novice alchemy tools laying around.

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When you’re doing alchemy, you can activate a filter to show ingredients of a specific type of effect. So you can do that to see what gives “restore health”

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If I recall correctly, it’s usually proteins (like meats) and fungi

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Produce and dairy items usually restore fatigue

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Might have restore health as a later effect, but for novice and apprentice level alchemy, it definitively does not

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As for your damage issues. Are you still using the basic damage spell you were given at the start of the game or have you bought better ones? And have you been leveling every chance you get, regardless of if you’ve increased your damage output of spells?

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If so, stop doing that. Enemies scale above you as you level. Like guards are always 20 levels above you, for example

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If you haven’t been upping your intelligence and willpower stats, start doing that or reload a save before you leveled up so much and focus on those. Each stat governs a specific part of your damage and resource bars. And luck is essentially a little of everything and the critical hit chance, I think

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Intelligence is total magicka and willpower is how quickly it regenerates

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If you’re wearing armor, that is affecting your “spell effectiveness”. The heavier the armor, the weaker your spells. However if you wear plain clothes or robes, that increases your spell effectiveness

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As for shields, they are very useful, you just have to know how to use them. They can pull up a block after 1 or 2 swings, but once your reach swing 3 or 4 in your combo, you’re locked into an animation. Which makes sense, at least to me. You see in fantasy books all the time where critical moments happen and someone doesn’t have the strength or reaction to pull out of their flourishes and swings until it’s too late. Stuff like that.

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Just makes sense to me

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Plus I hated how you could instantly block from any swing or movement in Skyrim

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Skyrim combat felt very hack and slash, no art or momentum or weight to the swings

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Oblivion is still hack and slash, but there’s a give and take with swinging a couple times then blocking or risking a full combo and eating the damage.

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Pendulum of actions

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Back to alchemy. There’s a good few novice level ingredients that offer restore health. Go to alchemy shops and look through their stocks to find them. You should be able to make a good bit of cash from restore fatigue potions. Shopkeepers don’t run out of gold like they do in Skyrim. They just have a set upper limit for each sell offer. Most I’ve seen are in the 800 to 1000 range

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Right now, only combine two ingredients at a time. Adding more ingredients won’t increase the efficacy of the potion. Getting more alchemy gear and then better versions will, in the future.

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It was a little asinine for people to tell you to go straight for higher tier ones. They won’t spawn in shops or dungeons until certain level thresholds and yes, they will cost a good chunk of money

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But that’s what flooding the market with restore fatigue potions is for!

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If you have any more questions or need help, ping me, not hero

shut cradle
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okay, thank you Susan

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I got frustrated and crashed out a little

ancient nacelle
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It’s all good, I’ve done the exact same

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It’s happened to a few times to me in this server lmao

shut cradle
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im level 14 with these stats rn

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is that good?

ancient nacelle
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So, are you trying to focus on spellcasting or weapon swinging?

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Or are you trying to do both

shut cradle
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I wanna focus on casting but I need some decent weapons cuz I run out of magic and have to swap to my sword

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this is my main dmg spell

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ancient nacelle
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So, instead of leveling strength, level speed. Speed is you’re movement speed and as a caster, you want to be able to outpace your enemies while your magicka regens

shut cradle
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oaky

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Ive been increasing strength for carryweight xd

ancient nacelle
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That’s honestly fair, but you can just cast a spell to increase your carry weight, too haha

shut cradle
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ahh.. tru

ancient nacelle
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You can get a spell called “ease burden” that gives you a couple minutes of increased carry weight at a time

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Many spell merchants sell it

ancient nacelle
shut cradle
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craft it

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ooh ive got ease burden

ancient nacelle
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Nice, it’s a good spell

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You should make a lightning and ice equivalent if you haven’t already

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If I recall correctly, I think some races are naturally more or less resistant to certain damage types

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And of course most plane of Oblivion creatures will probably have a higher resistance to fire in general

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Also if you make a drain fatigue spell, you can make enemies fall over for a second

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If an enemy runs out of fatigue, they’ll fall over. It’s kind of comical and funny, but also very helpful for getting damage in or moving away.

ancient nacelle
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It’s kind of this game’s dump stat, like Charisma in fallout new Vegas. No real point in leveling it. It just gives people a higher base disposition towards you, but you can also raise that with some charm spells

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Or do the speech craft mini game

shut cradle
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oh is it?

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bweh

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didnt realize that

ancient nacelle
#

Yeah. You also need it really low (like 20 or 30) to activate a daedric shrine quest, unless they changed that

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A specific daedric shrine quest

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Molag Bal, I think? I’m not sure on that one

shut cradle
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owww really

ancient nacelle
#

You can make damage personality potions for that, though. Which, if you’re trying to damage an attribute like to get that quest trigger, you have to combine the potion with a positive effect to turn it from a poison to a “restore” potion

shut cradle
#

i can make drain attribute spells i think

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just target it on self?

ancient nacelle
#

So once you start doing higher alchemy, be careful of that. It can be pretty easy to accidentally make a ton of potions that damage a stat as well as give you a positive effect later on

ancient nacelle
#

It just needs to be at or below a threshold for when you activate the daedric shrine

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It doesn’t need to stay there after you’ve gotten the quest

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At least in the 2006 version

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Most daedric shrine quests, like in Skyrim, aren’t available until certain level requirements

shut cradle
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I also made a cheesy spell

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ancient nacelle
#

Also Azura’s shrine is available as early as level 2 and gives a refillable soul gem. The shrine is ||near skingrad I think||

ancient nacelle
#

Make sure to have cure disease potions on you though. You’re fighting vampires for her quest and becoming a vampire in oblivion is way less fun than Skyrim.

ember pecan
#

Since their components appear more often

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Spam them to level up alchemy so you can unlock the third point

upper garden
#

Reason why I maxed speed first

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Outpace enemies while healing or with bow

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And yes races have different elem res

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Nord are mid resistant to fire and ice

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bosmer IIrC weak to fire
and Dunmer super resistant against fire

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BTW male and female are different stats

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soo

ember pecan
#

Also armor

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If you're wearing armor your spells will do less

upper garden
#

yep

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Thats why robes for mages are important and the magic armor spells

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lile barkskin and co

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Unless you enchant the armor with efficiency for that school of magic you wanna use to compensate

ember pecan
#

Bound armor

upper garden
#

In short :
If you wanna go magic as your primary , you need to go veeeery different from non magic in Oblivion

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skyrim was „eh whatever , you have mana. Good enough „

ember pecan
#

Nabbing a staff from one of the dead conjurers is good as well

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Move your basic attack

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Away from mana

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Wait are their companions like MOTHERFUCKING Lydia in this game?

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"your word is my command"
Then why ARENT YOU MOVING OUT OF THE FUCKING DOORWAY LYDIA

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I still have unresolved anger issues with skyrims companions

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Apologies

upper garden
#

lol

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yes you can have those

ember pecan
#

At least with starfield their pushed outta the way

ancient nacelle
#

I have a degrade weapon staff

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It’s so nice

ember pecan
#

Oh?

ancient nacelle
#

I got real lucky

ember pecan
#

I found a degrade armor but wasn't sure what it did

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Didn't have a noticable effecc

ancient nacelle
#

Weapon and armor have a durability

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The lower the durability, the less damage weapons do and the less armor protects

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My staff degrades by 25 points per cast. So I can reduce an enemy’s weapon to zero durability casuing it to do next to no damage to me

ember pecan
#

Oh damn

ancient nacelle
#

Degrade spells are very useful

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If they have a secondary weapon, they’ll switch to it. If not, they’ll just keep swinging their now trash weapon

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Also Bretons have a racial 50% resistance to magic by the by

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Very hard to kill those fuckers with magic

upper garden
#

One of the traders on the capital sells an akaviri sword with both armor and weapon degrade enchant

ancient nacelle
#

Yeah that fucks

upper garden
#

costs 10k+ tho

ancient nacelle
#

I think a drain fatigue enchant on a weapon would be the most fun

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10k isn’t too hard to make. Just go raid all the farmer’s fields and make a metric ton of alchemy potions

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A little time consuming, yeah

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But not hard

#

I just realized that traveling to and from player homes is going to be a massive pain with my no fast travel restriction

#

Oh recall and intervention, why have you forsaken us

dawn bone
#

I HAVE BECOME SPEEEEEEEEED

upper garden
#

Costs 15k

#

Opposite of „A fighting chance“ are the shops that sell the two

ancient nacelle
#

Yeah the imperial city has good enchanted gear

ember pecan
#

I've just arrived at skingrad

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Think I'm gonna skip it for now

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Head straight to kvatch

#

Maybeee

dawn bone
#

I hate sideways cave

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Who puts enemies that need SILVER WEAPONS, WITH DRAIN EFFECTS, NEXT TO THE TUTORIAL SEWERS?!

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Well time to go somewhere else

dawn bone
#

I found Frost Crag…. It is good to be home.

#

God damnit someone changed the locks and stole my candles….. welp.

ancient nacelle
#

Fast travel restriction and all that

#

Horses are allowed, but don’t increase my athletics so shall be used sparingly

ancient nacelle
dawn bone
#

From the cliff side

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So…. It ain’t that bad

ember pecan
#

Home base is gonna be hammerspace

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Teleporting to and from is allowed

ancient nacelle
#

Hammerspace?

ember pecan
#

Storage

ancient nacelle
ember pecan
#

Hammerspace is a reference to Looney tunes and Co where they pulled hammers outta nowhere

ancient nacelle
#

Oh lmao

ember pecan
#

In this case my hammerspace is my base that I'll tp to and from to dump and retrieve shit

upper garden
#

Yeah barely anybody I know , knows this

dawn bone
upper garden
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Hammerspace is so often used tho its kinda funny

dawn bone
ancient nacelle
upper garden
#

Time is getting too old

ancient nacelle
#

I grew up watching a lot of looney tunes shows and the movies and I did not know hammerspace

dawn bone
upper garden
#

old school "I pull a hammer out of my butt pocket" isnt shown anymore

ancient nacelle
#

I think I spent almost as much time on the boomerang tv channel as I did on Cartoon Network

ember pecan
#

No cable for me, only stuff from the library which was old Looney tunes and semi modern Scooby doo

ancient nacelle
#

I’ve seen original Scooby Doo and some of the child versions and a good bit of what’s new Scooby Doo, the more modern but still similar enough to the original one

ember pecan
#

03 is best run

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I think that's what's new

ancient nacelle
#

I really liked the two live action movies

ember pecan
#

Also apparently the remake was in dev for 4 years

ancient nacelle
#

The one on a tropical island with literal demons and the other with science making the costumes come to life

ember pecan
#

Apparently the next remake people are wanting isn't morrowind

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It's fallout 3 or new Vegas

ancient nacelle
#

I would take a remake of 3, but not of new Vegas if obsidian isn’t involved, if that makes sense.

upper garden
#

I think Vegas wont happen because Obsidian

ancient nacelle
#

I’d still prefer to see morrowind overall though

ember pecan
#

It does, but also completely possible

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Since Microsoft owns obsidian and Bethesda now

upper garden
#

Morrowind would benefit from a remake not remaster

ember pecan
#

And they've got the experience with unreal 5 now from avowed and outer worlds 2

upper garden
#

Too much limited by the tech of its time

ember pecan
#

Yeah I was really hoping for a cut down on loading screens in the oblivion remaster

ancient nacelle
#

Yeah I’d just want obsidian to be able to have a say in how new Vegas would be handled. I don’t want 3 or NV to turn out looking or playing like 4

upper garden
#

Loading times to me feel inflated for the sake of it

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most of the time for me its fade to black and instant refade

ember pecan
#

My storage is jank at best, so for me it feels justified

ancient nacelle
#

I’m playing on an Xbox S and loading screens feel adequate to me.

ember pecan
#

It does give me major nostalgia

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I remember playing Skyrim on 360 and between the loading screens, just reading my book

dawn bone
ancient nacelle
#

I still vividly remember how bad loading screens were in 2006 Oblivion so with how they are now with the graphics being what they are, I’m happy with them

dawn bone
dawn bone
ancient nacelle
#

If anything, I would prefer they be a little longer, because I have to deal with a little freeze and pop in sometimes

upper garden
#

But this tech advancement has also a bad side

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Loading Screen Trivia and Tipps are dying

dawn bone
#

Yeahhhh

upper garden
#

No more spinning the random models while waiting and looking at them

ancient nacelle
dawn bone
#

Hm

ember pecan
#

The art is stunning at least as replacement

dawn bone
#

Then again that was also the same time period when I was playing sonic 06….. so maybe I’m just desensitized

ancient nacelle
ember pecan
#

I love the art

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Inkwell and desk of the artist

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Then a freeze frame of the world

ancient nacelle
#

I like loading screen that give you loading tips and let you confirm when you’re ready to move onto the game

#

Some games have that

ancient nacelle
#

I love the enhanced loading screen for oblivion and I hope people take notes for it

#

Great loading screen

upper garden
#

okaaaaay

#

If I craft potions too fast the game crashes....

dawn bone
#

Interesting

upper garden
#

70 potions created

#

Convenient

#

oops

#

sorry only in that session

#

I made close to hundred restore fatigue on its own...

#

That power leveling turned into about 2k gold

#

oh

#

alt tab fixed her

ember pecan
#

i have a honse

cinder plinth
upper garden
#

I hate Oblivions lock pick minigame

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it sucks

#

its stupid

#

and skill barely matter as it is basically just a frame perfect minigame

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which throws accessability out the window

#

in Skyrim you could with patience and skill get the hardest locks even with no skill

#

this

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this is bs

dawn bone
#

…… crafting potions can crash… the game… huh.

rugged meteor
upper garden
#

Thats not the point or should not be a solution

ancient nacelle
#

Use spells to unlock stuff

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that is another solution

#

specifically built into the game

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Or learn to enjoy the minigame

upper garden
#

If the answer to the flaws of a minigame is "get this that bypasses it"

ancient nacelle
#

it's a fun minigame

upper garden
#

Then how

#

Getting the rythm for each tumbler to get the slow phase and hitting the button when it is at top is what feels like a dice roll

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where skill matters jack shit

dawn bone
#

Okay I literally am not allowed to craft potions anymore.

dawn bone
#

You get a feel for it.

rugged meteor
#

Also there's technically a sound cue.

upper garden
#

Which doesnt even matter as through testing it breaks and locks at same sounds

rugged meteor
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As the pin is moving up, it makes a gear-on-gear clicking sound. As it nears the top, it slows down the clicking rate.

upper garden
#

That you got backwards

#

the gear clicking STARTS when its at the top

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and slows as it goes down

rugged meteor
#

No, there's a second one as it's going up that's slightly different in sound, and only there on the slow upward variant of the pin kick.

dawn bone
#

APPARENTLY, the issue is using a mix of stolen/non stolen goods in a potion. HOW DOES THAT CAUSE A CRASH?!

rugged meteor
ember pecan
#

fucken hackdirt

ancient nacelle
#

hehehe

ember pecan
#

ah fuck

#

i've been vamped

#

how do i get unvamp

ancient nacelle
#

if you only just got the disease, a cure disease potion will clear it up

#

if you've fully turned into a vampire, talk to the count of skingrad

rugged meteor
#

If you don't want to use a potion, interacting with any Deity Altar in any temple will also cure it, just like in Skyrim.

ancient nacelle
#

unless you're very infamous

#

high infamy will make it not work anymore

#

gods don't like infamy

rugged meteor
#

Yeah, but presumably they haven't hit that point yet, unless they've exclusively been murderhoboing random city NPCs and never killing bandits.

#

It takes a long time of doing so to reach the Infamy level where the gods stop helping you.

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But yeah, as long as it's still just the disease, any method that cures diseases will cure the vampirism.

dawn bone
#

which yes, still exists, and yes, still contains the giga anti vampire ritual. along with evil cleanse.

dawn bone
#

I have now made a buncha training spells. Now to sit in my fancy tower and become GOD

#

And maybe google how spell crafting works more I’ve still got barely any idea

#

And for the destruction trainer yes, that does mean I am constantly. Relentlessly. Immolating myself.

#

Gotta deal damage to get xp n all that

wanton hill
#

lizord like warmth...

dawn bone
#

Exactly!

#

Frostcrown is cold

#

Need warmth

shut cradle
#

do you level both destruction and resto if you have one spell that damages you then heals you

wanton hill
#

i think the first effect dictate the spell's school

cinder plinth
#

and by a combo spell I mean I have made like 5 of them and all only did resto xp

rugged meteor
#

You can do two separate ones that each do exactly 1 point of their respective effect, though.

cinder plinth
#

yeah

#

that is what I ended up doing to train to 50 in both

rugged meteor
#

For example,
Spell 1: Damage (Ice) 1 (Self).
Spell 2: Heal 1 (Self).

cinder plinth
#

I need to look up if there is a console command to delete spells so I can get rid of those spells I made

dawn bone
#

cries in bloated console spell list

rugged meteor
dawn bone
#

That would have been SMART

rugged meteor
#

And if you plan to use a custom spell a lot, put an AA at the front.

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As that'll force it to the top.

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An example of one that might be used alot being a "Fortify Personality 100 (self) Fortify Mercantile 100 (self) for a few seconds" spell, that is used in conjunction with an "Increase Disposition 100 (Touch Target)" spell to optimize gold use and gain when shopping.

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Or for melee combat focused mages, a "Fortify Strength X (self) for Y seconds" spell.

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Where X and Y are based on how high your casting skills are.

dawn bone
#

Yeah I mostly just wanted to know what the /12 bit meant. Is that a budget? What is it based on? WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN?!

#

Is it character level? Skill totals? Deranged averaging?

#

right down there. that 2/12. it changes based on spell power, it seemingly, means NOTHING.

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rugged meteor
#

"Spell Complexity", iirc.

wanton hill
#

isn't that the higher spell limit?

dawn bone
wanton hill
#

oh

rugged meteor
wanton hill
#

you can't create spell of complexity 13 or above

dawn bone
#

..... please tell me it increases over time.

wanton hill
#

but the limit is supposed to scale with the spell school

dawn bone
#

alright

#

so fun fact. if you rubberband down the RB button to repeatedly cast spells, and do literally nothing else, the AFK spinny camera will still happen.

rugged meteor
#

Because said camera is tied to moving around, not doing animations.

dawn bone
#

ohhhhhhh

#

well still

#

its funny to me

#

Jerry just spam casting in his lil tower

wanton hill
#

i kinda like HP healing became gold

#

and not blue like in original oblivion

dawn bone
#

I kinda miss the blue farts

#

but yeah

#

gold is nice

#

thats mostly just nostolgia

wanton hill
#

yeaaah

#

blue mist was also great

dawn bone
#

hey pro tip: sleep in the floating inn. I promise nothing bad will happen. nothing at all. nope.

#

I totally don't have a vendetta against the floating inn for making me reload a save way back in the day

#

nope

#

why would I have a vendetta against a cute lil floating inn.

ember pecan
#

how do i kill will-o-wisps

wanton hill
#

magic or silver weapons

#

bind/enchanted weapons work as well

rugged meteor
ember pecan
#

interesting

#

thanks

#

where does one acquire silvered

#

weapons

rugged meteor
#

They'll start spawning after a certain amount of scaling has occured.

ember pecan
#

also vampirism is unfortunately fatal

dawn bone
# ember pecan how do i kill will-o-wisps

weapons that work against non material entities.

Silver, daedric, enchanted, for some reason NOT EBONY, EVEN THOUGH THAT WORKED IN DAGGERFALL, and I think like one other.

ember pecan
#

permenant

rugged meteor
#

I think there might be a couple guaranteed spawns as well, but if there are, I can't remember where.

dawn bone
ember pecan
#

i emant permenant yeah

dawn bone
#

it still isnt

ember pecan
#

i be VAMPED

rugged meteor
dawn bone
#

theres a really stupid way to cure it

ember pecan
#

permenant

#

is there any social issue

#

or will i be fine with vampirism

dawn bone
#

look

#

a giant quest chain to never be a vampire EVER AGAIN

#

but no there isnt a social problem with being a vampire in oblivion IIRC

#

it sjust if you want it gone there are solutions

#

there is this giant quest of hell, and then I think the "evil" player house has an option too

rugged meteor
#

If you get into fights you can no longer surrender, as they'll fight a vampire to the death, but other than that there's no major penalties.

#

Beyond the physical/magical.

ember pecan
#

these are not trolls

#

these are gorillas

#

i do like that take

ancient nacelle
#

I love the re-designed trolls

rugged meteor
#

Same thing, in Cyrodiil.

ember pecan
#

its more interesting

ancient nacelle
#

skyrim artists, take notes

dawn bone
#

if you want a non permenant cure, the Deepscorn Hollow is available

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ember pecan
#

but these are apes not trolls

dawn bone
ancient nacelle
#

the trolls in skyrim should have been even fluffier

dawn bone
#

okay if we wanna talk about creature glow ups, yall seen the Minotaurs yet?

#

they look actually scary

#

or well

#

moderately

#

they look better

ancient nacelle
#

haven't seen them yet

#

we're not all power levelers like you

ember pecan
#

yeah i'm not even at skingard yet

dawn bone
#

.....

#

look

#

just to be clear

#

distinctly BECAUSE I have power leveled

#

I have no idea what is or isn't supposed to be places

#

the best guess I have is "huh goblins probably shouldnt have dwarven and elvish weapons" but I never TRULY know!

ancient nacelle
#

yeah they start off with rusty shit

#

which, by the way, goblins look appropriately creeeeeeeepyyyyyyyyy

dawn bone
#

I toldja!

#

they're great!

#

also: the grind for master alch gear is still toxic as hell but those potions..... oh so worth it.

#

Ive currently got expert across the board with one master item.

#

and ehehehhe

#

oh its good

#

also I dont think Im ever gonna take off Hircine's shirt.

#

I found this on accident cause I wanted to see if I could kill a unicorn. and uhhh. yeah 25% spell resistance is uhhh.... pretty spicy.

ancient nacelle
#

Hircine*

dawn bone
#

who knew the only way to kill a unicorn was stabbing it in the ass repeatedly with a silver knife!

#

no seriously the unicorn was immune to like everything I tried

rugged meteor
#

Yes. Unicorns have similar resistances to ghosts.

ember pecan
#

giving yourself the lastname god-hater sends a strong message

#

i mean

#

she's wrong

#

but at least she's dedicated

dawn bone
#

interesting

dawn bone
#

so as it turns out

#

you can't just rubberband down the right bumper. cause the controller will time out.

#

so.

#

thats

#

annoying

#

or well

#

its weird

#

and finicky

#

I dont entirely get it because it feels like Im doing witchcraft rituals heard third hand.

#

okay I figured out spell complexity. the cap is ALWAYS gonna be 12. or at least seemingly.

but the cost of doing different effects is lowered.

why not just increase the cap instead of this deranged madness? I dunno. Oblivion stuff.

rugged meteor
#

Remember: This was 2006. Easy solutions were verbotten.

dawn bone
#

it would be too simple! (also because certain things are multipliers and thus having higher numbers isn't actually better)

#

(why are they multipliers? faq you thats why.)

rugged meteor
#

Because big number good, and multiplication means big number.

dawn bone
#

okay so apparently

#

its just

#

my CABLE that doesnt like it when I band down the right bumper

#

for

#

some reason

#

I guess

#

batteries it is I guess

#

the things I'd do for a turbo button right about now

dawn bone
#

You can make spells. With more than 12 complexity.

#

What.

#

Is this just a visual glitch? Does this /12 just mean NOTHING?! WHERES THE LOGIC

dawn bone
#

I wonder if I constantly move forward if that would fix it….

#

Hmmmm

dawn bone
#

…. Mana cost

#

It’s

#

MANA COST?!

#

WHY IS IT /12 THEN?!?!

#

@rugged meteor I figured out the /12 number. It’s so dumb.

#

It’s MANA. COST. ITS NOT EVEN DIVIDED BY TWELVE

wanton hill
#

is the cost devided by 12?

dawn bone
#

NOPE

#

THAT WOULD AT LEAST MAKE SENSE!

wanton hill
#

might have messed something up in the UI text

#

apparently some OG oblivion mods are compatible with the remaster

dawn bone
#

#1364262125945622560 message

we’ve known.

#

But I’m guessing it’s some borked GUI

#

because it wasn’t there in OG ESIV

dawn bone
#

Alright continual running appears to bypass the silly controller constraints.

#

I think

#

NEVERMIND

#

stupid hunka junk

#

Making me manually grind spellcasting

dawn bone
#

I’m considered too pretty to worship Namira.

My nose is literally clipping through my helmet.

IMG_2825.jpg
#

Discount Thanos. Is too pretty.

shut cradle
dawn bone
#

I’m an idiot. XP gains are based on mana spent. My ultra cheap spammable spells are effectively junk now.

#

I’ve been here. For like 3 hours. Casting the cheapest possible restoration spell.

And it’s all basically been TIME WASTED

#

I AM BUT A FOOOOOL

#

At least my destruction trainer will have…. Some use…. Ish.

shut cradle
#

Rip

#

I've been leveling destruction so fast by just blasting off massive DMG fireballs

#

Haven't even tried to specifically grind it but it's my highest skill

dawn bone
#

Eh it’s mostly just unremovable inventory clutter that will annoy me

shut cradle
#

I also made a restoration spell I can spam infinitely but leaves me at negative 1000s of mana when I stop

dawn bone
#

Wait what

#

How the hell does that even work

#

It’s a fortify chain isn’t it

shut cradle
#

Yes

dawn bone
#

Resto and acrobatics : 100.

#

Yippeeeeeee

#

Jumping is now basically free. Damn.

#

Kinda wish mastery gave like a double jump or something but this is fine too.

#

Also water jumping: not worth it. Just use water walk.

#

Now some may ask: what is the point of 100 acrobatics?

#

I can jump off the top of Frostcrag and only take 100 points of damage from landing at the base.

If that ain’t worth it I don’t know what is.

rugged meteor
dawn bone
rugged meteor
#

No. In ye olden days of Morrowind, Acrobatics 100 completely negated fall damage.

ancient nacelle
#

Fall damage certainly triggers easier in this version

dawn bone
#

Yay alteration 100

#

Yippeeee

#

Now onto mysticism

ancient nacelle
dawn bone
#

So my loading screens are now…. Borked.

#

They show level 24 with a level up symbol

#

I’m level 27

#

Also, my strength and endurance are randomly drained by 1 point for seemingly no reason. I’m gonna try to find a temple to fix that

#

Oh no wait

#

The loading screen fixed

#

And temple fixed the drain

#

Yey

rugged meteor
dawn bone
#

It just

#

Borked

#

Temple fixed it tho

#

So

#

It’s probably fineeee

#

I just realized myst isn’t going to be nearly as useful as I thought it would because Ciradill has a ban on levitating

rugged meteor
#

And because Drain Life was moved to Restoration (it was in Mysticism back in the days of Morrowind).

dawn bone
#

I didn’t even like DL that much.

#

Yes if you overkill you can insta kill, but I much prefer just shooting them in the face with a bow.

#

Shame that fortifying agility doesn’t do anything for bow damage past 100

ancient nacelle
#

Do drain fatigue

#

Make them so instantly tired they fall over

#

It would be cool if you could overload someone’s magicka to make them take damage

#

I was reading a book recently where if too much magic was in their system, they would get physically ill

dawn bone
#

Ah yeah that’s always a fun trope

ancient nacelle
#

It really is

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Also, cyrodill*

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ancient nacelle
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The base drain fatigue spells are pretty weak

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Make one that does it over time if you can

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Rather than a flat amount

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My current spell plans are to make an AOE lightning spell. I’m tired of mages.

ancient nacelle
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Lmao

dawn bone
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Lightning drains magic right?

ancient nacelle
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In Skyrim

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Don’t know about in Oblivion

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Ah.

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Hm

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I’ll Google it later

ancient nacelle
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You can drain/damage magicka though

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Smack them with a massive damage intelligence poison

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Worst case I’ll just do a drain magic spell

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Or drain int

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Maybe both

ancient nacelle
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Damage attribute poisons are permanent unless using a temple or restore potion I think

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I don’t think drain spells are permanent?

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They aren’t

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Well

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Curses are

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But

ancient nacelle
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Ah. Poison is the best then.

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Players can’t craft curses.

ancient nacelle
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Boo

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You can get a pretty strong shock spell from a mages guild recommendation quest

dawn bone
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Eh. We’ve got more powerful tools. Like stacking HOT potions

ancient nacelle
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It’s fingers of the mountain I think

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Also I need to make a better chameleon spell

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75%

ancient nacelle
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You’re better off enchanting gear with chameleon

dawn bone
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Need slots for more anti magic.

ancient nacelle
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Shoulda gone Breton then

dawn bone
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My homies hate magic.

dawn bone
ancient nacelle
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Breton gets a base 50% resist to all magic

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And water breathing!

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ancient nacelle
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Already did Umbra then?

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That’s from wolf man

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Hircineninene

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25% magic resist

ancient nacelle
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Hircine

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Ah the unicorn and Minotaurs

dawn bone
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I know I’m just starting a running bit at this point

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Once you’re level 30, go do Boethia’s quest