#Wayfinder

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modern jackal
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Do you know the way ?

whole marlin
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Daway

whole marlin
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Peaked in off Dis....someting gonna happen in 19:00 my local time AKA now it's 13:27

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Probably soft launch

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Lofty Because heck i dont know what exactly time zone 30'rd they gonna do soft launch for founders

valid mason
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oh huh whens this droppin

whole marlin
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Dunno really

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Only got timestamp with time i said above

modern jackal
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Tomorrow it is stated to go back for founders

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Beta Testing the changes from test of the new stuff and then in 2 weeks for all others

thick compass
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wait they already retooled it for non-MMO-ness?

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that was fast

modern jackal
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Most of it are lesser changes thats no witchcraft

whole marlin
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Welp Wait my brain farted

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Why i did read it as 30

sonic nest
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stay tuned cryo

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i will cook a review

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when im not sleep deprived and update is out

modern jackal
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I will SO update the review tomorrow

sonic nest
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better make some space bro

modern jackal
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Though I still need to drop that Feedback about Echoes equipping if that hasnt adjusted

sonic nest
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i will write a fucking essay

modern jackal
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I mean Echoes/Accessories equipping

sonic nest
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the rare moment when i think what i will write and use more words than KEKW, aboba, DICKS and such

modern jackal
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I mean we can also talk a bit more now since its mere hours now

sonic nest
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brov

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31st

modern jackal
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I know...

sonic nest
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they announce SOMETHING in 4 hours

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but im feeling like taking a anp

modern jackal
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Maybe all changes ?

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And stuff we hadnt seen ?

sonic nest
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danna

modern jackal
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They said we get more stats on EQ but I hope we can actually get the weapons more random

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In the first steam post they said only the echo slots

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But I kinda wish the Stats would get different pairs as well

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I mean which stat is tied to which Affinity

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So you can use the weapons but also try to get the perfect affinity rolls for you

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For most of Silos Rifles for example the Discipline affinity has MAYBE one crit related stat

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despite his Discipline perks being about crit

whole marlin
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Wanderp Is shotgun still power house?

modern jackal
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Actually doing a bit better atm with Ransom

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Tempest is still good

old thistle
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Excite

prime kestrel
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Someone ping me whenever the new game is live. Please.

modern jackal
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Do you have Founders edition ?

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If not that ping will be in 2 weeks

prime kestrel
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Yes.

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Yes I do.

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I can play the game right now if I wanted. Thats founders ya?

modern jackal
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if you got any of the founders packs then yes

thick compass
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so is it up yet

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it's a 75gb download I wanna know when to start

modern jackal
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No

thick compass
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I remember the game having a hard time hitting >60fps on my 3090

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how did they fit it into a deck

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also: downloading 75gb onto my poor 512gb deck? c'mooooon

modern jackal
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Its 23 GB

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wait sorry that was the Test version

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now its 75 again

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So it might go down

thick compass
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did the game even have enough content as it was to look like it's a 75gb game?

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it didn't seem a fraction the size of warframe for instance

modern jackal
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How far did you get to ?

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Were you still in Skylight ?

whole marlin
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Uh so soft launch....20:00 for me....AKA in 21 hours okay

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Perfect evening i guess

modern jackal
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yeh

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I have to work to 6pm

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7 pm is time for me

whole marlin
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wanderP Perfect

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Really good time imho for start

thick compass
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I didn't get all that far to be honest

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but yeah skylight-ular zone

sonic nest
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Well

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The size should get reduced a bit due to trimmed netcode and shit because of servers

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Bit also

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They added stuff

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So

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Dunno really

modern jackal
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also @prime kestrel PIN

sonic nest
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They did said they are working on optimising the game

prime kestrel
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Tomorrow. Got it.

sonic nest
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They wanted to surprise us today with launch but they found gamebreaking bug and had to fix it

modern jackal
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dont say that

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those are forbidden words

sonic nest
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Apparently exalted edition founders got really screwd by that

modern jackal
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CURSED words

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Delay and " found gamebreaking bug and had to fix it"

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We dont say that

sonic nest
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Dunno

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Look

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At least its not fucking riot games

modern jackal
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The last time those words were said

modern jackal
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Seee

sonic nest
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Ah that. Naw dude fuck it

twin seal
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dangit I was slow on spelling extinction

modern jackal
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Raider gets the problem with the words

sonic nest
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Well

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You forget there is difference

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One dev does scummy shit and other puts honest work

twin seal
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that line can sway quite easily
better to not invoke the harbinger anyways

sonic nest
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I trust airship

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Anyway

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Im gonna game probably once it launches

whole marlin
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tornisCozy 5 Hours left

prime kestrel
thick compass
modern jackal
modern jackal
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T-30m

modern jackal
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T-8m

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T-60s

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Its here

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@prime kestrel @sonic nest @twin seal @thick compass @valid mason @old thistle @whole marlin

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Okay now I need to see if they changed anything additionally between the test and now

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Echoes and Accessories were a bit cluncky

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Not to Equip them but compare accessories as you cant see what echoes are in them

thick compass
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huh. I guess downloading it yesterday didn't get me anything

modern jackal
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and the weapons..
They should have random affinity assignments for stats
But that wasnt the case so far

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Nope

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That was just the old version

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the 38 GB is more the size it was during the Test Period for the Echoes update

thick compass
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oh well see you in an hour 🤷

modern jackal
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1h 30 for me

whole marlin
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Updated

prime kestrel
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TIME TO UPDATE

twin seal
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finished my reinstall few minutes ago

prime kestrel
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I reinstalled a week ago or so

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so I just need to update

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am happy

modern jackal
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I mean

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the download beforehand was not needed

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As thats basically dowloading a new game

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sigh

whole marlin
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I mean.....most assets still same

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So download before hand still gonna reduce amount stuff need be updated

whole marlin
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Seems you can hop in group immediately seems

modern jackal
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2/3 done

whole marlin
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Mhm noice early deadeye blue for crit on Silo

modern jackal
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Why must I have slow internet

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I curse you old cable net

thick compass
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installing: 3% wut

prime kestrel
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the game can autosave now...... by the nine.

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its like..... an actual game now

thick compass
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welp, it's weird being in skylight and not seeing any other players

prime kestrel
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kek

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time to REDO THE TUTORIAL! WOOO!

modern jackal
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Time to redo what I did the last week

prime kestrel
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PSUDO BULLET JUMPING STILL WORKS! WOO!

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oh tehres stamina now

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hm

modern jackal
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that was kinda there before as well

prime kestrel
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I only really played launch week and a bit

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so, this is all really news to me

thick compass
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it's kind hard not to look at the oversized plaza zones and think to yourself "yeah this is the corpse of an MMO :("

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or maybe it's just because I have something to compare it to

modern jackal
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Ita slittle bit empty

prime kestrel
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which itself.... was kinda the corpse of an MMO

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but it turned into something really good!

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mostly!@

thick compass
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mostly.

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oof the start is as rough as I remember.

twin seal
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Oh boy this runs so much smoother than before

sonic nest
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i did a thing papa

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i took a big old word dump in review section

thick compass
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you the one trash-talking (deservedly) DE?

sonic nest
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i havent trash talked anyone

modern jackal
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Its about being objective and reviewing the game

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opinions on DE dont matter on that

prime kestrel
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well, thats the intro done, time to play more later once I finish obliterating Unicorn Overlord

sonic nest
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@modern jackal want purple trickster echo?

modern jackal
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Didnt use that one before at all

sonic nest
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just making a joke

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i got 2 purple echos already

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and i literally did my first proper dungeon

prime kestrel
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Drop rates feel a lot higher

modern jackal
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Make that a Purple Hunter T and I am in

vernal smelt
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Already there's little to no lag like there was

prime kestrel
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….. am I the only one getting lag spikes? I should probably drop my settings then

thick compass
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did the very first dungeon. got a weapon and a dagger cosmetic

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yeah this ain't a live service no more

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lovin that.

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... still, the game seems to have AAA production values, but "vertical slice" levels of polish, and the jank is distracting

prime kestrel
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Yeah

modern jackal
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You will get a LOT of skins

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ironically... I didnt get a single rifle skin during test...

twin seal
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My general fps is way better now, but in MP I been getting some random hard hitches
overall impressed for a day one revamp patch

vernal smelt
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yeah games actually functional

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i do hope they get enough support to finish it

twin seal
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release day, outside test period

modern jackal
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A but more , for MP random hitches is okay

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though solo I had 0 issues

thick compass
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Should I be matchmaking for dungeons right from the get go?

prime kestrel
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It’s a single player game. Do what you want

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I’m gonna be farming elites

whole marlin
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Uh Cryo

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Forgor what problem you had with Echoes UI?

modern jackal
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Nope I still know

twin seal
modern jackal
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ohhhh thats a neat change

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Meh

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the problem is with this Echo it does not increase any stats

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only reduces cost

old thistle
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Gah. They changed the timing on Nixes parry. It's a much shorter period now

modern jackal
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awwww come on

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random Goblin Seer dropped a red item cube

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and it phased through the ground

whole marlin
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Cryo it was probably weapon....

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Because so far red cubes it's weapon drop

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Anyhow sad

sonic nest
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@modern jackal want a purple bloodspawn echo?

modern jackal
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Doesnt really do anything for Ranged

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Heavy Slam is the trigger

sonic nest
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if you would ever want to play warmaster :P

modern jackal
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I have actually done the Isti Sidequest

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Got some neat Blue Rarity Rose Thorn Daggers

whole marlin
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I think 15+ it's just simply blue rarity weapons base line

sonic nest
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grendel guuuuuud

modern jackal
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Ye But I like Silo

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dunno why

whole marlin
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Lofty Pew pew

modern jackal
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Crit Pew Pew

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5k Dmg on the Q gives the happy chemicals

modern jackal
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Money really needs to be adjusted

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I can sell 40 Items ( about 10 weapons and rest accessories)

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Or just do 2-3 Greed imbued dungeons

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A single greed imbued Codex Halls gave me 7k

thick compass
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they were all set up to make you grind for weeks to buy things

sonic nest
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if you are grinding in this game for weeks to get single thing then you have some issues

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its not that bad

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low level items give less money. the higher the item level bigger the price for selling

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you anyway get extra gold from chests besides item drops

vernal smelt
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I imagine it'll be patched soon

sonic nest
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and you tell that cryo

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but greed imbudement been ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT before

vernal smelt
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Also for everyone:make sure to drop a positive review to offset the kids whining about false advertising and how it's a scam

sonic nest
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the fact it gives now good amount of money is good because greed imbudement is also meant to be a challange since you take more dmg the more money you take

whole marlin
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Umh so far i may say....uh MP may have hicups with infinite loading for client

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At least me with Exinus both side can just stuck in loading

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Wanderp 1 Time final room dint open tumor thing after all enemy deaths

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I think whats it....

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Or i forgor

modern jackal
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Infinite loading bug is already on their list

whole marlin
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For clients ya?

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It's specifically mention MP?

modern jackal
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In multiple instances

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solo and mo

whole marlin
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Hmmm

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Okay

modern jackal
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*mp

whole marlin
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Anyhow it's very great day 1 as for "new" game.

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Umh gonna leave positive review tad a bit later

thick compass
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damn broodmother spider kicked my ass

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it required a lot more active dodging from a game I was mentally putting in the same slot as warframe

modern jackal
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I had to put in 0 effort for the bosses so far

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Which character and weapon ?

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Melee?

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Playing Silo with Crit focus Ransom

whole marlin
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Silo just dmg power house

thick compass
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silo, ransom

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just.. followed main quest

modern jackal
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Same

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didnt do any sidequest and rushed past them

thick compass
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might be I just have a fundamental misunderstanding of how to play

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but she killed me three times and the winning run I used up all potion charges

modern jackal
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Silo stays away and uses his 3 on CD

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And the Combo of 2 and 1 to deal massive Breakbar dmg

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And Ransom is a Crit weapon so less ability DMG and more Accessories and such for Crit Rate and Power

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Maxing out your Oil skill should be the first thing you do if you can

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Its one of the core skills for him

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Not the slow directly ( helps dodging) but the fact the enemy is debuffed

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HIs Discipline Trait is about raising crit and having the enemy debuffed

sonic nest
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i needed quite a bit because im on challanging difficulty and playing melee

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and grendel have shit for sustain

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but im feeling pretty good with him

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good break dmg

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ok dmg after breaking

modern jackal
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For me its base 20% Crit chance but having an enemy debuffed makes it +10% so suddenly the crits flow in and dmg spikes

sonic nest
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i have everyone except senja

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im unlucky with mimics

thick compass
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I only fought one mimic. it was in the very first tutorial dungeon. it dropped senja.

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it actually killed me :/ I got it after I respawned

sonic nest
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nice. i got senja

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god grendel is fun once he gets going

sonic nest
thick compass
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Airship have that art style on lock I tell you hwat

twin seal
sonic nest
valid mason
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Is new wayfinder any good?

vernal smelt
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It's the MMO with the grind ripped out

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A lot more refinement

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And some combat balance changes for single player to be effective

sonic nest
twin seal
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mostly bug free

sonic nest
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also performance is better

prime kestrel
sonic nest
prime kestrel
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Man that looks badass.

sonic nest
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apparently when you max out character to lvl 30 you get different persona

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but it cannot have cosmetic armors

prime kestrel
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….. but why would I want cosmetic armours when that looks so good

sonic nest
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because they also loook cool

valid mason
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Neat

whole marlin
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Wanderp I a bit scared on my FPS for second location....

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Since it's been said it's 3x bigger what first one

thick compass
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wonder if they'll do what a bunch of other teams have and port to unreal engine 5

thick compass
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come to think of it, is there head/weakspot damage with guns?

thick compass
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also does the overworld have rewards for exploration beyond looking at the pretty

whole marlin
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Umh events

modern jackal
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Events, bosses, chests

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Basically a majority of the loot ?

whole marlin
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And ya got to second big location.....and holyyyyyy

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Is big

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They dint lie about it being 3x bigger

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And my FPS down to 40 stable

thick compass
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huh. I was sort of wondering about 'events', since it's not a shared zone anymore

modern jackal
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Big Fireboss you need to summon on your own

whole marlin
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Ya

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No clue where da hell get summoning stuff

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Maybe some Duo imbudment

modern jackal
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So uhh I think I'm gonna go Melee Silo for a bit

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Did the Magan sidequest to fight the Archon Commander and he dropped ... something

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I feel the EQ pacing and levels need to be adjusted big time

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Lvl 30 is max

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I am lvl 27 not even out of the first Area of the game

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And he dropped this one for me

thick compass
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need to rebind primary melee attack to something on the keyboard because clicking is giving me wrist pain

prime kestrel
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EMBRACE THE REPPETATIVE STRESS INJURY

thick compass
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I would but it means less playtime total and I'm super done with having to abstain from games from a week

twin seal
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Arg keeping echos equipped is a pain in the ass
Just did Creed for the first time, and I had no echos equipped the whole time

thick compass
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I kinda wonder what made them choose the echoes, since it's clearly an exact copy of the mechanic from their darksiders spinoff

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did they like it that much?

modern jackal
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The mechanic just fits lore wise

desert musk
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Dang the new update feels good.

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Maybe ya'll are having a different time with it, but they seemingly fixed most of my major complaints about the OG MMO version.

vernal smelt
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No, thats general consensus

thick compass
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I can actually fight enemies in the overworld now without massive rubberbanding and things appearing/vanishing in between frames

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so that's nice

modern jackal
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There are still some MMO leftovers that need a but fixing

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specifically stronger overworld enemies spawn rate

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Hunter Telfyre for example

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The elite goblin hunter near the repository of Knowledge and iron keep

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Also level

thick compass
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the animation at the very start of the game where you're handed a gloom shard is still kinda broken - for such a central plot conceit, I didn't even realize I had one or that it was a cosmetics slot for a while

sonic nest
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Cryo i think second map will have better echo than his

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I dont think its worth to hyperfixate on that

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And about overworld enemies... Yes and no?

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Maybe, just maybe it could be switched to player scaling difficulty

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But you arent really meant to super farm overworld. At least highlands

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Its after all a starting location

twin seal
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stupid freakin respawn timer on the worms in the nights maw chamber

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Swear I killed 30 worms during my fight

modern jackal
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Exinus that isnt the point if there is better or not

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Any player starting and comming to this point knows two things :
A) Every single enemy drops an echo
B) the named ones are different from the base ones

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So they will try to get that echo and its not a guaranteed drop

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But with the respawn times in a single player game for a mob being more than 3 minutes is a flawed design

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A metric that isnt regarded often enough in video game design but should be no.1 priority

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Respect of players time

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People only have X time to play and that varies from person to person

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IF I have to wait in a singleplayer game, that I can start and play whenever I want , for 15m or so for one chance at something

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That is horrendous design and not respecting the player at all

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For an MMO type , maybe okay ( in most MMOs the farmable stronger enemies except world bosses spawn faster)
But a singleplayer game has 0 reason for that limit

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enemies should respawn the moment the zone is either full de-loaded or maybe 2 minutes passed

twin seal
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Wonder if signal fires could work as a bonfire

modern jackal
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Example early on :
I got a Cragged Tooth Echo from the Not-Murlok™️ but it was white and I wanted a better one

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but his butt didnt respawn for ages

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And yes Raider that would work equally

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Imagine Elden Ring and you want to farm an enemy for souls or a special weapon but he only respawns every 10 minutes

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would suck, wouldnt it ?
Would get frustrating VERY fast

twin seal
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that just reminded me of FF14 fishing respawn timers sometimes being months long

modern jackal
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Which is stupid as well

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Time is limited , we already trade time for money at work

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And for my entertainment it surely as hell is not worth 15+m wait

sonic nest
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Yeah i kinda get it

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Well. Feel free to leave a feedback on their website

twin seal
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oh, guess I should make some red gloomstones

twin seal
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I assume this lets you create an echo?

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Just had a new boss run away?

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am confuse

sonic nest
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@marble elk some niss gaming? >:3

marble elk
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dat good for niss

sonic nest
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@marble elk bruh i found another secret ish boss

marble elk
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oh

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that sounds amazing

prime kestrel
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You mean an elite?

sonic nest
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i mean an actual boss for which you need to find stuff

prime kestrel
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Huh. Neat.

sonic nest
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ok so dread legion got a bit. JUST A BIT easier

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a liiiiiiiiiittle janky at the end

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but the parkour part of that boss got a bit better

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but they gotta fix Witchcharmed effigy material drops

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issue is

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they dont drop

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and they are supposed to be like new halcyon orbs and archaic bones

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PLENTY

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and i get jack squat

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pogu champu

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dont know where but i got needed items for summoning Pyre

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ok i cracked the code on witchcharmed effigy

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they either need to change the tooltip for it or update its drops

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because so far i have been getting them only from rusted cells which you open with key from bloodwardens

valid mason
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hey, anyone wanna hop into vc and maybe play a lil?

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currently watching wander's vid haha

twin seal
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done 32 hours in 3 day
takin a break to not burn out super bad

valid mason
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fair

sonic nest
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@valid mason

valid mason
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omw just gotta bio

sonic nest
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numero uno

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@modern jackal want this tempest skin? >:)

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numero secundo

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THERE IS NO SKIN. ITS ON FUKIN BOTTOM OF SKIN LIST FOR WEAPON @twin seal @modern jackal

sonic nest
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takin little break from wayfinder because nobody wanna play and do some crazy shit with me

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but im down to play

thick compass
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you

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you're probably LEAGUES ahead of me, otherwise I'd be down for some dungeons-ing

modern jackal
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yoooo

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Side Quest boss in Skylight

sonic nest
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i dont care if im ahead or not

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you need every material in game

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except gloomstones and gold

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i need basic silver spectra a lot

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and maybe dual imbudement solar

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and if anything i can pick my non leveled characters

sonic nest
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well. got my first legendary armor piece

sonic nest
thick compass
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oh dang that is lovely

prime kestrel
prime kestrel
# sonic nest

Question: how do I unlock that character and what is their deal

sonic nest
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its grendel

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grendel drops from bloodspawn

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also i got fucking scammed

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there is only one heroic character other than kyros

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@marble elk

marble elk
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I mean there will likely be more later on tbf

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but at least the second one is niss yah

sonic nest
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but im saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

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i wanted grendel

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i wanted wingrave

marble elk
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this is all still in the unstable beta branch right?

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or has it transitioned to live already?

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i thought that it was mid-late june

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regardless it is nice to see all of this

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good stuffs

sonic nest
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its live bro

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semi live

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not officially

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only founders have access

marble elk
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oh cool

sonic nest
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hmmm

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mythic hunts seem kinda easy

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but really cool

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ok maybe im just turbo broken

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but that really seems easy so far

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you get new type of bounty

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"fight X empowered boss with X imbudement combo"

vernal smelt
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Anyone can unlock the heroic kryos now?

marble elk
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I think they're just cosmetic now?

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but yes

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i think so

sonic nest
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heroic niss

marble elk
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Yah that's got my kinda vibe

sonic nest
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i dont know tho

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there is legendary gear still

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what i dont have

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and it might look pretty cool as transmog

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god i wish they continue development of this game

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please

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it would be so fucking amazing

sonic nest
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im still stomping the bosses

prime kestrel
sonic nest
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i made him into big bonka dmg

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he have very highn break dmg from abilities themself

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and you can roll him into either ability power and play whirlwind and just weapon

prime kestrel
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I see

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So not a health tank

sonic nest
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he have almost no sutain tho

prime kestrel
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Big sadge

sonic nest
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you can make him health tank

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i have 4k hp on him

prime kestrel
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Guess I’m stuck with Wingrave then

prime kestrel
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I must feed the addiction

sonic nest
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just use bloodsong

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problem solved

prime kestrel
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What

sonic nest
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my baby

prime kestrel
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Oh

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I see

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Well then

sonic nest
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it good sustain

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and since grendel guardbreaks

#

its easy to guardbreak enemy and use lawnmover to heal yourself

#

since its channeling short range saw

marble elk
#

as much i tend to like sustain, there is so something to be said about niss's raw dps with the poison daggers

#

compared to any other weapon/character combination i had at the time, it just melted everything

#

just felt good popping cds then ripping through bosses in 3 seconds

#

for sustain i prefer ven to wingrave

#

that's just a flabor thing though

#

i don't like the paladin archetype that much

sonic nest
#

you would like grendel slick

#

he is destroying shit

#

that super high break dmg on his abilities make him absolute unit

#

well

#

i finished the game pretty much

#

only 5 bosses to beat

#

pyre

#

and 4 end game ones

prime kestrel
#

Welp

sonic nest
#

3 bosses left

sonic nest
#

ok beaten officially all

#

i hate only 2 boss fights out of 4 end game ones

#

2 are badly designed

#

2 are fine

sonic nest
#

4 unique end game bosses have weapons what cannot be obtained other way than beating those bosses

#

ne mount obtained

#

i got 3 out of 4 unique weapons

#

bad echo slots on 2 of them

#

2 unique mounts obtained

#

lul

#

aaaaand an artifact

#

its dogshit tho

#

make that unique pet too

#

lmao

#

once i obtain final weapon ill post pictures

sonic nest
#

i did obtained it....

#

but i dont like its echo slots

#

so gonna post once i fix it >:3

#

got 3rd mount

#

and got second artifact

prime kestrel
#

wait this game has mounts?

#

Exinus how the hell are you already at endgame?

marble elk
#

remember the grind?

#

the mmo grind?

#

yah that doesn't exist anymore

prime kestrel
#

oh

#

oh that would do it

old thistle
#

You start with a mount now don't you?

prime kestrel
#

I have no idea

#

all I know is they might have cut out TOO much grinding.....

sonic nest
#

uuuuh

#

yes

#

i finished game

twin seal
prime kestrel
#

neat

sonic nest
#

3 well rolled weapons out of 4

#

im trying to get a pet now

#

i guess i can post them tho

vernal smelt
prime kestrel
#

ohhhh

#

he's just been playing basicallly nonstop

#

I see

vernal smelt
#

yeah

prime kestrel
#

thats why it.... goooot it

sonic nest
#

excuse me

#

i took 2-3 days of break to play other games

#

i played league and roboquest

#

also i did a bit of side stuff with raider and andrei

#

which didnt gave me much of progression in that time

prime kestrel
#

uhuh

sonic nest
#

i feel like a crackhead tho

#

im just disrespecting one cool boss

#

im iframing in front of him and just keeping my combo up almost entire fight

prime kestrel
#

Fun

sonic nest
#

if anyone need a carry feel free to ask

#

i will do my best to obliterate whatever you need

sonic nest
#

make that 3 artifacts

#

i think pets are hardest drop

#

if every of 4 bosses have a pet

marble elk
#

omfg the baby mimic art is adorable

#

he gunna get you

#

he dangerous

prime kestrel
#

IZ BABY

marble elk
#

look at da baby

sonic nest
#

there is 2 baby mimic pets to place at home too

modern jackal
#

And they give you a little bit money on interaction

marble elk
#

sick weapon skin i got off a mimic

#

so glad they actually drop stuffs now

prime kestrel
#

Pretty

modern jackal
#

okay

#

this is weird

#

at almost the same time I got the same skin from a mimic...

#

I got it about 15 mins ago as well

marble elk
#

I think we may have mugged the same mimic

modern jackal
#

I also have the Sword and Shield of that

#

looks cool as well

#

I like those

marble elk
#

I want that sword and board tmog though

#

speaking of

prime kestrel
#

looks slick

eheheheheheh

marble elk
#

baby slime!

prime kestrel
#

BABY

marble elk
#

so it's pretty big for a "slimelet"

prime kestrel
#

its an adorable lil guy

marble elk
#

This is an adorable little guy, also creepy cus he tracks you as you move around him.

marble elk
#

I do think the obserber is my favorite pet, of the ones i've gotten so far.

#

Other than the flaming doggo

thick compass
#

tried a non-Silo character since I have kyros

#

as I feared playing melee makes my hand hurt will all the clickin'

#

gonna check the gamepad support instead

modern jackal
#

I would generally play the game controller for melee

#

I play KB+M because of ranged weapons

thick compass
#

yeah the ranged weapons seem to be the superior option if you want to not be hit

marble elk
#

OR

#

parry/dodge

modern jackal
#

oof

#

Twitch had a hard drop off for Wayfinder

#

A week ago it was almost 2k viewers on the category

#

now...

marble elk
#

It’s gunna be in a weird spot until everyone gets access to the new version.

#

It also isn’t “massive multiplayer” anymore, which would impact it too.

thick compass
#

I mean, the hardcore streamers probably blew through everything there, and then.. nothing to do but wait for the game to have more game?

#

at least it's not a billion dollar tragedy like diablo 4

sonic nest
#

No its just mass of upset babies what are angry game not MMO anymore

#

Game is simply not mainstream anymore

#

And all mainstream people peaced

prime kestrel
#

Yup

#

It’s just a good ARPG

#

And that ain’t mainstream

sonic nest
#

arent ARPGs supposed to be top down?

modern jackal
#

Action RPG is just that

#

more action

#

though Wayfinder is kinda RPG lite IMO

#

The equipment isnt deep enough

sonic nest
#

i always thought it was standing for Asymetric RPG

#

oops

prime kestrel
prime kestrel
marble elk
#

OMFG they completely reworked frostmarch

#

it isn't just an npc hub, it is an entire new zone

prime kestrel
#

Awesomeeee

modern jackal
#

That was always the plan

#

and in fall another full zone for release

sonic nest
#

Funny enough game has ending currently

#

But it leaves gate wide open for future content

#

As i said. I crave for more

#

I played runecannon silo

#

Its okaaaaaay

#

But just.... My grendel is so fucking broken man

#

But i dont think i could beat with that silo every boss

#

Guns just.... Arent the shit for me

#

Feels a bit clunky

#

If i really get mood i might make kyros next

#

But god DAYUM man, grendel max awakening looks SICK

#

Oh yeah btw

#

There is new wiki in works

#

It have decent amount of info

modern jackal
#

Ahhh neato

modern jackal
#

boing

sonic nest
#

Also important. Apparently weapon abilities are combination of your dmg

#

They take both ability and weapon stats

modern jackal
#

Figured as much

sonic nest
#

Which

modern jackal
#

Since its weapon... and ability

sonic nest
#

Makes some weapons absolute dogshit

modern jackal
#

The Sniper one for example

#

that only marks

#

For Tempest thats cool

sonic nest
#

Im very sad to dissapoint you cryo that there is no better shotgun than tempest

#

I tested all

#

The ability dmg is utter dogshit for 2 other

modern jackal
#

Also I would have liked it more if there were more variety in echoes

#

To add to some skill effects or combat abilities

sonic nest
#

Well. Technically thats what rush echos are

#

But i get ya

modern jackal
#

But only those but I would have rather liked some smaller conditional ones

#

"when you recently applied a debuff , gain X crit dmg" or something

#

More situational stuff that lets you play into some characters skills and weapons

sonic nest
#

Ye i know

modern jackal
#

And a way to reforge / reroll items

sonic nest
#

The what?

#

Explain

modern jackal
#

For example you get an accessory that has the perfect stat distribution for you
the Right stats and also in the right affinity

#

but it was lvl 5 only and never dropped again

#

so you want to reforge it to get to higher level

#

Of course only with chance and chance to brick it so its not breaking the game

#

and then also ability to randomize the echo slots for a price and chance to destroy the item

sonic nest
#

I think every item can drop from mythic hunts

modern jackal
#

Yes but that is only end game

#

if you back load your game with all good things the early game feels oppresive and shit

sonic nest
#

Well..... You can slap me for that but thats good imo

#

Game is easy as it is

#

Only real thing what you need to farm is echos

#

And spectra

modern jackal
#

Thats why I said before that its too easy

#

you level too fast

sonic nest
#

Actually on contrary cryo. Its the endgame what is lacking

modern jackal
#

Yes that as well but you cant put everything just there

#

Thats horrible design

sonic nest
#

Its only hunts

#

Only bosses

#

You cant farm spectra there

#

I think they try to make somewhat fair split between "story/exploration" and endgame

#

You wanna know what mythic bosses bring also cryo?

#

Upgraded boss echos

#

They are stronger

modern jackal
#

Only exemplifies the problem at hand more

sonic nest
#

Yes and no cryo

modern jackal
#

The boss echoes at start dont do shit for upgrades and rarity really

#

only driving the cost

#

and pushing something the player desires to the end will make them not like that really

sonic nest
#

You want everything in game almost flat. Leaves almost no room for endgame activities to matter

modern jackal
#

No Exinus you missread that completely

#

I dont want that from the start

#

The problem is you get a few things from the start and then the rest at the end

#

in between ?
Shit

sonic nest
#

Well you missunderstood some stuff too

#

Levels and such almost dont matter here

#

Frankly? Almost all power is stored in echos

modern jackal
#

They dont matter because the system itself is flawed

sonic nest
#

Maybe

modern jackal
#

How stats and echoes work is trapping them

sonic nest
#

Yes and no?

#

Echos you can upgrade often with progression

#

And content dont have that high of dificulty curve besides early game

#

If anything. Game is overall too easy

modern jackal
#

Thats what I keep saying
They flood you with levels and items

#

it needs to be dragged out much much more and give the player more control but with less items

#

So for example scrapping weapons and accessories to allow manipulation to a certain degree

sonic nest
#

I dunno. I enjoyed lets say.... 80% of game

modern jackal
#

Progression is just too condensed into start and end

sonic nest
#

Maybe i just cant see it due to me liking game too much and unless something really grinds my gears i cant tell

marble elk
#

So they reworked the night's maw echo and now I have it in the wrong slot. it's supposed to fit into the boss echo slot, but I have it in the elite slot still so I get 3 boss echo effects lmao.

prime kestrel
#

kekw

#

never remove it

marble elk
#

Look in the description too, it says BONEBURROW, not Night's Maw.

#

"Boneburrow echo bursts up from*"

prime kestrel
#

pfffffffffft

marble elk
#

Well I changed characters and it unequipped itself

twin seal
#

rip

#

that might be the talent echo slot bug unequiping it

prime kestrel
marble elk
#

Found a cool boss that might be a secret?

#

I killed it in about* 2 minutes when the timer was 8. The perks of being a glass cannon.

#

dropped a cool mount and echo

#

The echo seems REALLY strong.

#

Mount is alright too.

#

Found a quest marker and nothing here... (can't interact with it either)

twin seal
#

yea there supposed to be a spirit stag there
I have the stag but no quest marker

prime kestrel
#

spicy boss

marble elk
#

Found another one, this one was way more difficult and gave CRAZY drops.

#

I got a red quality piece of Niss armor

twin seal
#

yup that guy is equal to a mythic hunt boss

#

wait red quality?

marble elk
#

The second mythic boss* i've found

twin seal
#

there is higher than legendary?

marble elk
#

It is a apart of the Scorn set.

#

Pretty crazy ngl

twin seal
#

ahh ok, is legendary

#

I got the body for Wingrave body for the legendary set

marble elk
#

BTW that echo I got from the prior boss is insane, it does so much damage and is basically just a better version of the deceiver echo in every way.

prime kestrel
#

so basically there are secret overworld bosses around with insane drops?

#

thats badass

marble elk
#

They're supposed to be post-campaign bosses I think

#

But they're secret if you do them early, since you're not supposed too

twin seal
#

I mean I had heartwood event show up and Im not quite at the end
and the owl gryphon was pretty much led right to by the spirits quest

prime kestrel
#

fair nuff

marble elk
modern jackal
#

Also Remember

#

today is the day

#

Echoes goes available to all again in <t:1718125200:R> at <t:1718125200:t>

sonic nest
#

heartwood is endgame

#

greedlord is endgame

#

zephyr is not

#

if boss drops glory currency or mythic awakening essence then its concidered endgame

modern jackal
#

9 minutes

prime kestrel
#

and now its 2 minutes ago

marble elk
#

Ok wow, the last boss of the main story is such a LAGGY fight. A ton of fun though at least.

sonic nest
#

yeah

#

the rune cannon from that boss is good

twin seal
#

@sonic nest Reduced the cost of Witchcharmed Effigies for goods from Avarys in Reaver Woods.

sonic nest
#

POGU CHAMPYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

#

thats nice

#

good i havent bought shit there

modern jackal
#

lol

#

I just want one bug fixed

#

Unequiping Echoes from Talent Tree slots when changing character

twin seal
#

shooting and dodging?

sonic nest
#

unequipping echos

modern jackal
#

Its bloody annoying

sonic nest
#

yep

twin seal
#

yeaaa

modern jackal
#

fix that or make us not need to switch for the memories

#

or give loadouts

thick compass
marble elk
#

OH I really like the last boss in the mythic hunts.

#

Looks sick and has dope mechanics

#

It's a mount isn't it?

sonic nest
#

the Slyv'r?

#

its not a mount

#

but he does drop the bulky one

modern jackal
#

I have my big demon doggo

#

I am fine

whole marlin
#

Big demon doggo indeed

marble elk
#

Do each of the void mythic bosses drop a mount then?

#

Bruh he is the mount, I just got it.

#

Das him.

sonic nest
#

well KINDA

#

he is much beefier as mount

prime kestrel
marble elk
#

Has anybody found the Spiorad ring in the forgotten rings quest? The tile-piece* I found it in the previous version of game no longer exists, so I'm not sure where it is now.

prime kestrel
#

no clue.

#

sorry

marble elk
#

I just remember it used to drop from the pit with a chaos imbuement, near the final checkpoint. However that room has since changed, and I'm not sure how that affected the spawn location.

#

OH DAMN

#

I am wrong, just found the old tile.

#

It is just not the end room tile anymore, so I might be able to find the ring here.

#

It is way different though wow.

prime kestrel
#

woo!

marble elk
#

No luck in here, rip.

prime kestrel
#

rip

marble elk
#

Found it in a random transition room.

#

Just laying in the corner...

prime kestrel
#

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

marble elk
#

The awakening 5 Niss skin is neat, but I still prefer the heroic look.

#

5k power rating goes kinda hard ngl

#

I think the next weapon I want to invest into awaken is one of the rune cannons, but I'm not sure which.

#

Either the duskbringer or requiem, not sure which.

twin seal
#

anyone figured out this "chest" in the highlands?
Its right under the codex halls signal fire

marble elk
#

No, in fact I just opened the door lol.

#

I wonder if there are runes in the area we have to find? Like the one on the door?

#

Hitting the bell again did nothing.

#

Doesn't seem like it has anything to do with the nearby goblin cave.

#

OK the reddit theory is that there are 5 bells in total across the highlands.

#

Gatta ring um all

#

One is near the beach, one is near the named turtlesaur mob, the bell that opens door, and the other 2 are unclear/unknown.

#

Cannot confirm bell theory, as I did not find one in either area. can anyone contradict* me here?

twin seal
#

I have only ever seen the first bell

marble elk
#

well fml, I found one...

#

On top of the log behind the turtlesaur.

#

Ranged weapons cannot hit them from I see, which means each must be accessible to melee.

#

Found the beach bell.

#

It is tucked right into the corner on the end of the beach closest to skylight.

prime kestrel
#

bells.

#

everywhere

#

just like majima

twin seal
#

yea those are working

#

well time to scoure the rest of the zone

marble elk
#

Found a really sneaky side area in lower skylight, it's right in that little ally.

#

It does not seem like the bells are in the skylight/pit areas

#

They have to be out in the wild highlands it seems.

#

I don't think the bells are in the side areas either.

#

FOUND ANOTHER

#

It's by the 3 named birds behind one of the stone pillars.

#

I have now looked everywhere except where it is lmao.

twin seal
#

same, only thing I found so far is the little orange turtle guy three times

marble elk
#

FOUND IT

#

It's near the south entrance/exit by the undercroft.

#

Where the wrecked caravans are.

#

The reward for the bell chest.

twin seal
#

Well little disappointing but not bad

marble elk
#

I mean a mount is a mount tbf.

twin seal
#

have jank map I made for the bell locations

marble elk
#

I also found a bunch of little critters on my search too, and if you find them all you get a pet I think? I found like 4 though and didn't get a pet.

twin seal
#

I think I have found this same little orange guy 4 times total, once and then three times today

marble elk
#

There also crabs you can find I think?

#

In frostmarch there are birds and rats

#

I've got the rat pet at least.

twin seal
#

This is weird, are you only supposed to be able to get one green talent?

#

nvm, reset tree and it then allowed me to pick it

twin seal
thick compass
#

I wonder if there's a motorcycle mount or if they're all vaguely bear-shaped

modern jackal
#

The Ring Quest was .... underwhelming

marble elk
#

Just got my second mythic weapon. The first one I got drops from the ||slime boss||.

#

I like the sound of that weapon ability, will be fun to play with.

prime kestrel
#

ooooh

#

shiny

marble elk
#

Got my third mythic weapon, another cool looking one and it happens to be a rune cannon, the next weapon type I wanted to try out!

#

Second mythic mount.

marble elk
#

The legendary Niss belt is gunna be giving me so much more ability power.

marble elk
#

Oh

#

I uh

#

just hard crashed my game

#

I killed one of the mythic bosses so fast the game didn't know what to do when it couldn't do it's forced phase mechanic.

#

So the game died

#

I killed the game

#

lmao

#

Third mythic mount.

#

I have one more weapon and more mount to get, then I need to finish up the lego sets.

#

Last mythic weapon is a shotgun with a really sick ability. Want to get a better echo slot roll though.

#

Oh

#

the mythic bosses have artifacts...

#

Is this just worse than the ||Maras version||? It barely has a higher positive effect but also has a big negative...

#

It says it stacks with the lesser version of itself, so I guess that is the motivation to use it.

#

Got the last of the mythic mounts!

prime kestrel
prime kestrel
marble elk
#

There are two model skeletons for mounts.

prime kestrel
#

ah

marble elk
#

There are the beasts and the antelope.

prime kestrel
#

I see

#

got it

marble elk
#

Each of the mythic mounts does appear to be a beast type though yah.

sonic nest
#

Dont bother slick with shotguns

#

They are bad

#

Tempest gud

#

Just abilities blow horrendously

thick compass
#

finally got my dualsense controller working, turns out you have to enable steam input (?!)

#

now playing kyros, his default big scythe thing attacks incredibly slowly

#

maybe I'm just used to warframe melee speeds

#

also: seriously, is there location damage when shooting guns? because if I don't have to land headshots I could just keep using the controller the whole time

whole marlin
#

No

#

Guns have marks from time to time

#

You need to hit

#

What's crit hits for guns

#

Head is not weakpoint

thick compass
#

center mass it is then.

#

the steam input thing is really strange. the store marks it as fully compatible with xbox and ps4/ps5 controllers, which means the steam client turns steam input off by default. but when you turn it on, you notice there's an official steam input mapping configured

modern jackal
#

Two things

#

Bigger houses

#

2nd and most important

#

Coop Multi seems to get changes as it sounds like you will host mini servers as people can just go about anywhere during coop multi

prime kestrel
#

awesome

thick compass
#

sooooooo, back to having servers?

modern jackal
#

not really

#

Listing lobbies and like now using steam p2p si a whole different beast than hosting the hardware for thousands of people to play

prime kestrel
#

yeah

#

P2P lobies. very common system. not haviing their own servers. much MUCH different monitary and resource commitment.

thick compass
#

Remember when DE were supposed to be the adults in the room and provide servers? Good times

sonic nest
#

Basicly

#

DRG lobbies

#

good

#

SHIT

thick compass
#

DRG lobbies are the best. warframe lets you decorate your orbiter but nobody gets to see it unless you go the extra mile to invite them. and even wayfinder, if it does the lobby thing, is an open world rather than focusing on your house

#

maybe more like monhun lobby then

thick compass
#

made it to the undercroft. farthest I've ever gotten - I barely played wayfinder when it was in its MMO phase because of how bad the overworld lag was, so I wanted to wait until it was more cooked

#

.. but dang, those glowing monks kicked my ass

sonic nest
#

🥳

marble elk
#

Nice

prime kestrel
#

Woo!!!

thick compass
#

how do I apply two mutators to a dungeon? is that something I unlocked during the story?

whole marlin
#

Later yes

#

Just do main story and you will get to second mutator

thick compass
#

got kyros, was wondering how to 'awaken' his default scythe and whoops it requires mats that only drop if you have two mutators

#

hell of a slow attack speed with that thing. and then a greatsword dropped and it's even slower. this is definitely not warframe 'gotta go fast' play style

whole marlin
#

I'm always get reminder how old i'm am....revembering helicoptering in WF

thick compass
#

people still do that with memeing strike

#

... still kinda bitter and sore on DE for dropping the ball hard with wayfinder

whole marlin
#

Wanderp We still dont know full details about what

#

It can be fully on DE

#

Or Tencent did pull strings

thick compass
#

we know that they were in charge of server infra, and that they had to cut off the publishing arm. so whether or not it's their fault, they have a responsibility.

vernal smelt
#

Yeah, DE dropped the ball hard regardless

whole marlin
#

Still cant fully blame imho

#

Maybe DE Publishing was not profitable

#

And well cut

#

Wanderp RIP

thick compass
#

wayfinder feels like it has the lore foundation for a ten year MMO, but since that's never happening, it'll never be as dense and satisfying as if it were a PVE game from the start :(

vernal smelt
#

Doesn't really matter, they signed a contract and made a long term delay then went back on it, forcing wayfinder to struggle

thick compass
#

DE were the adult in the room and they did not live up to that role

prime kestrel
#

theres also to mention that DE is owned by Tencent.

vernal smelt
#

As crembo stated, regardless of how it happened they had the responsibility

thick compass
#

what market forces might've driven the decision really don't matter as much as the "welp, it's dropped. good luck kthxbye" thing