the fact that rotating the triangle does nothing sucks
#Palworld
silk belfry
stuck cypress
It flips the direction!
gleaming fulcrum
but not direction
i mean the pointy end stays
you flip the side of it you see
stuck cypress
No?
gleaming fulcrum
i mean this
it stays on the wall like this
mo matter how you rotate it during placing on a wall
what it does is the same “rotation” it does with walls
silk belfry
Ughhh
gleaming fulcrum
its completely broken
and slanted roofs can only be placed DOWN on walls
not up
stuck cypress
So actually
silk belfry
The mirroring is for the textures
stuck cypress
Fun fact
silk belfry
And not the actual rotation of the object
gleaming fulcrum
on ground it can “rotate”
stuck cypress
If you build 2 triangle pieces you can snap between them.
Instead of having to build deranged framing.
Mind you each placement needs its own triangles and will not snap to other slanted roofs
But it’s at least something
silk belfry
Yeah, but I wanna make it stone it looks nicer
stuck cypress
I see
gleaming fulcrum
Mind the crude finger scetch
But to build a 3x2 floor 1 high “home” , you have to put up a 3x2 high wall in the middle of the home to use as support for the roof
stuck cypress
…… you really don’t:
gleaming fulcrum
when roof is placed , remove wall inside the home
thats the only way I could get it to work
stuck cypress
Alright lemme boot up the game.
gleaming fulcrum
it wouldnt let me place roof pieces on top of a wall
gleaming fulcrum
only downfacing
stuck cypress
Gimme a moment
limber socket
good i now have a farm/breeding base and a production base
stuck cypress
Make sure it can produce cake
gleaming fulcrum
I had a deer so starved it couldnt get up
had to force feed till it could walk normal speed again
Also…
gleaming fulcrum
You can pet Syndicate “Pals”
stuck cypress
not ENTIRELY true, but yes.
stuck cypress
this is my main base, note the large walls my pals occationally clip into because they are compelte idiots. so what I do is try and keep the production machines AWAY from the walls, which helps.
alright now to build a 3 by 2
completely normal, no inner wall.
2 triangles, no wall.
be at the halway point
you can place roof
keep or remove triangles as wanted.
thats how I build roofs.
no weird jank wall structures needed. only jank triangles.
also if trying to add triangles to stairs you have to place the triangles down first
for SOME REASON
also speaking back on the clipping into walls part
the water wheel buildings that require a water pal to power them?
yeah the pals power them from the BACKSIDE
so if you line them up into a wall, they can and will clip into it
silk belfry
Yep
stuck cypress
oh.... oh COME ON THATS THE WRONG BIRD!
and Im realizing trying to seperate out a level 45 bird from a pack of level 30s is going to be a nightmare when I do get the spawn I want
ah well
silk belfry
Those birds are useful tho, tier 3 transport
stuck cypress
yeah so funny, funny story there
this is the gremlin I want
do you notice how its just, objectively better
stuck cypress
yeah, funny that.
but also this proves that birbs can be shiny, and that more spawns is worth it
silk belfry
I intend to use the former as hauling duty in bases that need it
So long as I don't need fire, he can do whatever
stuck cypress
See the solution is just have more
If you have 5 multitaskers it’s gonna get done EVENTUALLY
silk belfry
No it won't.
gleaming fulcrum
Owy
But I want an open roof
not flat roof with one wall high
Not a full 3x2 box but the top of the box is the slanted roof
limber socket
okay my production base has all the benches, is making wood, stone, ore and pladium just gotta make some balls then i can go hunt down honey and milk
but first!
Lunch
i saw cows somewhere earlier so i gotta find those and bugs seem to drop honey soo
and catch more ferrets the one i have is ehh
limber socket
also i gotta catch a flying pal
stuck cypress
Not a full 3x2 box but the top of the box is the slanted roof
okay, so hear me out, that, was EXTREMELY unclear.
but, you can just remove the base.
the issue with your want Cryo
is that slanted roofs dont count as roofs
Im not joking
but yes your double wall takes less setup than my triangles of ultimate destiny
stuck cypress
i saw cows somewhere earlier so i gotta find those and bugs seem to drop honey s...
cows and bees both produce their drops when put in pens
just so you know
gleaming fulcrum
I can top that
gleaming fulcrum
I mean with flying away
Got this funky glitch on camera
Also I didnt notice the Chicken and Penguin before
I only saw the cat yesterday
See that little dot ?
Thats my cat floating off into the sunset
stuck cypress
Neat
limber socket
neat i can defeat my enemies but jsut, not letting them into the base
stuck cypress
For a starter base, just me spitballing if I were to redo my choices, would be to start on the top left islands. The plateaus stop enemies from being able to reach you on the highest ones.
That’s actually where I built my cake base.
Only issue is a lack of good stone and metal, but it’s workable.
silk belfry
Stone is always alleviated by just having the stone pit
TBh I should probably rip up my current base and redo the whole thing
Because I have my current stuff all eating up the space where resources spawn naturally
stuck cypress
Oof
stuck cypress
Stone is always alleviated by just having the stone pit
I meant more the metal but yes.
But you need some setup to truly get stone production going efficiently
T3 carriers and miners are a must.
I do though greatly appreciate that we can turn stone into the blue.
There’s some solid QOL in this game. If only it extended to metal.
limber socket
anyone else have issues with pals just dissapearing in the base
stuck cypress
anyone else have issues with pals just dissapearing in the base
They’re in the walls
I’m not joking
limber socket
devs gotta fix that
stuck cypress
You need to go to your pal box. Drag them out, then back into their slot.
stuck cypress
devs gotta fix that
It’s a bit of an issue and why green said flat ground is a must
Also when you build on flat ground, build your walls outside of the blue circle.
Or your pals will clip through them.
limber socket
welp imma have to rebuild when i find a flat spot
stuck cypress
I can actually explain why. It’s a loading issue, the game simulates idle pal movement when the base is unloaded, so when it actually does load, your pals sometimes, ( often) end up in walls
silk belfry
Ah, I see
The pals are loaded, the base is not except for generating stuff
and then suddenly the walls load back in and the pals have an existential crisis
limber socket
my rushoar and dinossom love being the walls
at least i know it's not my game having issues tho
stuck cypress
and then suddenly the walls load back in and the pals have an existential crisis
Yup!
The insides of bases should arguably be loaded but I can understand them not wanting to do that.
silk belfry
It would take too many comp resources, especially with multiple bases
silk belfry
though that does make me wonder, do the pals still gather stuff when you're not there?
limber socket
stone and wood farm keep going i think
stuck cypress
Like breeding pals won’t breed and will actually detach themselves from the breeder.
limber socket
like anything thats a structure will keep going i think
stuck cypress
Yup
silk belfry
mmm
stuck cypress
If it’s in a self isolated container it typically continues
limber socket
I think if theres someone w9rking on it when the base unloads it keeps ticking
stuck cypress
I legitimately don’t fully know but that sounds reasonable
potent oriole
The insides of bases should arguably be loaded but I can understand them not wan...
The easiest way of doing something like this would be to generate a surface map of pathable areas when the player is near the base and if they have decided to simulate whatever, all it really needs is to know the position of the walls and stuff without needing to render in anything, so then it might even be able to deal with multiple Y levels
Or at least I'm pretty sure thats one of the better ways to simulate it without needing to do a bunch of rendering
severe oxide
Hello all :p idk if this has been asked before but what happened to the palworld series? I was literally watching the first episode and then they disappeared lol
silk belfry
Wander decided to take it down himself
potent oriole
Honestly should be pinned sometime in this channel Green
severe oxide
Ahh I see
I found his Chanel because of the first video lol and when I was about halfway the whole series disappeared
Started watching all his other stuff now and I like him
silk belfry
Because of the company head's stance on AI and inclusion thereof in their works, even if Palworld has little to no AI art tool influence he'd rather avoid promoting their products.
At least, that'ws how I understand the situation. His own words on the matter are in #announcements
stuck cypress
thats roughly the gist I got too green.
severe oxide
Ima go ahead and read that, thank you 🙂
limber socket
the fusion tank is so big
stuck cypress
its a bit chunky
good news theres no timer on it
its just instant
okay can someone explain to me why THIS has lumbering on it?
||why does the giant flaming wingged lion have lumbering.||
silk belfry
||It eats wood to fuel itself?||
stuck cypress
||I mean I guess?||
jovial cipher
charcoal?
bitter notch
They said somewhere that you should expect to find about 1 shiny per 10 hours
Which pretty much matches my experience
So very hard
stuck cypress
They said somewhere that you should expect to find about 1 shiny per 10 hours
Ive got triple spawns on and am constantly resetting spawns.
so
reasonably that should make it far easier to find one
anyways Im bored of going in a circle for hours so time to instead go in a straight line for hours.
look if I just forcefully reset the spawns often enough
its gotta gtive me something
at some point
potent oriole
Gur is bored of grinding? Who knew there would be a day
stuck cypress
no I got bored of one spot
Im lightly changing tactics
oh right
this straight line sucks
thats why I abandoned it
BACK TO THE CIRCLE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
stuck cypress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUWvVmJEWLo
my current theme for the madness Im going through. (Jaz sent it to me)
its just circles.
and circles.
and more circles.
Im upset. that coulda been a ragnahawk spawn.
this is the second time this has now happened
Im gonna make some toast.
or somethin
potent oriole
is so soul crushing
Good thing we lack souls?
limber socket
this is why you shouldn't focus on just one game for too long
stuck cypress
this is why you shouldn't focus on just one game for too long
listen here grump.
lemme drain the last dregs of mental energy I have while listening to patrick boyle and you can play how you want
MINE MIMNE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE
potent oriole
potent oriole
XD
stuck cypress
and I dont have a spawn near
meaning its gone.
does anyone know if you can randomly breed into existence the lucky ability?
Im putting this under I tried.
but apparenlty trying to fight..... 7 level 40ishes and 1 level 50 all at the same time was a poor idea
especially when I dont even have guns yet
I would like to note if the game let me have a base close by I would have brute forced it and caught the gremlin
internet says luckies cannot be born.
so uhhh, I give up.
I guess.
or something.
Im just gonna work on breeding a bird with a bunch of speed bonuses I guess.
stuck cypress
A NEW SOLUTION WAS FOUND
breeding chains
Im not going further into detail until I compelte it
glass turret
Horrifying
stuck cypress
so, turns out, that there is a max stack size for items
its 9999. a completely reasonabe amount of stone.
silk belfry
exploring in Palworld is painfullll
extremely painful
So many things want to kill me and my pals are made of paper
silk belfry
I cannot get a flyer until I at least recover my crap
silk belfry
I got my stuff
stuck cypress
alright I find this EXTREMELY unrealistic
I can eat raw poltry
and not get a poisoned debuff?
extremely rude game
silk belfry
I think
I need to completely relocate my current base
Because my Pals keep getting stuck and fall off cliffs
silk belfry
My current base is Okay(tm) but I should move it.
It'll be a pain, but so it goes.
I haven't managed to find a good Ore spot for base 2, where I can move and reorganize all my crap
But so it goes.
yeah okay
My fire dude just
Fell off a cliff and knocked himself out
Sooooo I need to move bases
stuck cypress
oh dear
stuck cypress
happens to the best of us
silk belfry
I now have
swimming, ground moving and gliding pals
I just need more wool for flying.
But also, next time, it's time to fuckkin find a base that doesn't suck as much
Also @stuck cypress the Direwolf perk is 'moves faster than other ground mounts'
tame onyx
after getting a swimming pal, i realized if i can see it, it's actually there
just wondering if the same is true for the big tree
stuck cypress
just wondering if the same is true for the big tree
I haven’t gone over but it’s absolutely a 3d model
stuck cypress
after getting a swimming pal, i realized if i can see it, it's actually there
So fun fact: while on top of water, flying mounts don’t use stamina
Flying mounts are objectively better water mounts.
as in while "grounded" on the water, they count as being on the ground
tame onyx
good to know...
stuck cypress
this game is weird.
but we will learn.
or at least Ill be here. making atrocities.
tame onyx
just hatched a jormuntide ignis from a huge dragon egg
i'm still only level 27 though
anyone do testing to see if the nimble/runner/swift perks affect mounted speed?
or would motivational leader affect mounted speed?
stuck cypress
or would motivational leader affect mounted speed?
Motivational only effects you when you are walking
The speed boosts are better
At least I think
90% sure
tame onyx
really need a better ore supply
stuck cypress
I can give a handful of reccomendations if you would like them
limber socket
the red area has a good spot if you can place the palbox in it
limber socket
yeah but you need the palbox to have the pals stay there to work
stuck cypress
or you could just
do it yourself
peolpe these days. no respect for manual labor.
limber socket
but automatic ore farming
also everything uses ingots after a point so
or nails but those are made of ingots
also ore is heavy af
stuck cypress
I said
do it
your
self
also I have an elephant in a tree and thus automatically win this argument by rules of absurdism.
limber socket
and i said i wanna explore!
I wanna find a stick and go fight gods 
how'd it get there tho
do mamorest's fly?
one those obliterated my breeding farm team earlier
thats why i built the walls
stuck cypress
do mamorest's fly?
the answer is very, very simple.
trees and rocks load in after creatures, I think, maybe.
or maybe creatures load in second?
anyways
long story short, something loads on top of something else
thing gets shotgunned/stuck inside of thing
explore long enough you see it all the time
bitter notch
anyone do testing to see if the nimble/runner/swift perks affect mounted speed?
They do yeah
And all 3 stack
tame onyx
haven't see a pal with multiple same effect perks
bitter notch
I've only gotten one via breeding
stuck cypress
interesting programming quirk, whenever just ascending or decending with a flying mount they face north
its weird
stuck cypress
haven't see a pal with multiple same effect perks
Ive seen one from the wild, but typically you're gonna have to breed em.
this is ChopChop, double defense up.
although sadly noooot my pal of choice when it comes to much, but they're nice to havhve as a bit of gorund movement. gonna have to breed a hyper speed doggo though.
stuck cypress
And all 3 stack
also technically its all 4, but Ill let the rest of you figure out what that means.
for those who wish to know ||4 legendary level 50s have a specific trait called "legendary" which can be bred down. it gives +15% Attack, Defense, and SPEED.||
stuck cypress
Ive realized, that my entire plan, kinda can just go out hte window, because well, my final build for this pal doesn't need lucky.
its not a damage pal its a movement pal
and I am a massive fool
I just need one more ragnahawk
and then I can make the triple speedester.
then I can work on making my buffer pals
and then, I can get my DPS pals.
potent oriole
Add the game to the list of 'has some furniture that actually has storage' though
stuck cypress
That's a waste of points, then. Shame.
Good news: points are infinate.
silk belfry
Yes, but I do not have infinite points and would have rather allocated that one to something else
stuck cypress
Not through level ups but other means.
stuck cypress
Yes, but I do not have infinite points and would have rather allocated that one ...
Fair.
limber socket
well thats good to know
limber socket
forever?
stuck cypress
NOT THE TIME GRUMP
limber socket
silk belfry
R button
As in, R key on keyboard, IDK what it is on controller but it'll show on the bottom right when you open a box
stuck cypress
green, signs work.
potent oriole
green, signs work.
I think the phrasing was more 'they have no functional use' only cosmetic
stuck cypress
ohhh
that
yeah
yeah they dont serve much of a purpose no.
and its not like using them to sort chests is useful because PALS DONT GIVE A DAMN AND PUT ANYTHING ANYWHERE
potent oriole
They are also way too bulky to be used as labels for chests and other stuff; pretending you want something organized
stuck cypress
yeahhhh
alright fair enough
I thought green meant that signs physically did not work
zealous needle
silk belfry
Noooo I needed those signs for text for sorting things and decoration
How do you use the signs
stuck cypress
How do you use the signs
ya press F.
silk belfry
tf why didn't it let me
stuck cypress
in other news, it is done. the speedster.
stuck cypress
tf why didn't it let me
sometimes your interact gets stuck on other objects
do NOT ask me why
I do not know
silk belfry
uggh. Fair.
stuck cypress
Nimble, Runner, and Swift.
all on one flyer
a 60% speed boost
and before you ask how many dudes it took
theres 3 full boxes of them
now for the NEXT breeding projects.
what is the next breeding project you may ask? a weight limit increasing pal that gives me bonuses to defense and attack.
and then breeding a lot of them so that I can max out their star rank.
glass turret
The real monster was us all along
stuck cypress
then after THAT is a harvesting pal that has bonuses to mining and woodcutting and then breeding a lot of THAT to max ITS star rank out
the pals of choice are: for harvesting ||Mammorest|| and for carrying ||Broncherry||
jovial cipher
not gonna say what I thought
glass turret
Eugenics is always the answer cry, you know that
stuck cypress
Eugenics was sort of the answer after all
Historically: no.
Video Games: Absolutely.
glass turret
When did you move to Germany gurm
stuck cypress
When did you move to Germany gurm
As a Jew I take offense to this, yet find it funny. Man my humor is dark.
hooh boy.
jovial cipher
hiding in the dark keeps it at bay
stuck cypress
yes yes?
stuck cypress
oh my god.
THIRD BREEDING PROJECT!
VERY GOOD!
although
hm.
I mean.
hmmmmmm.
yeah its probably better to do it that way.
dont mind me just considering some things in text form.
but alright, super sonic racing incoming once I finish my buffers project.
limber socket
infusing?
stuck cypress
alright so, update on pal fusion. it goes: 4, 16, 32, and Im going to GUESS the final one is 64
limber socket
the fusion machine?
limber socket
oohhh
stuck cypress
whatever you wanna call it
limber socket
i still gotta hund down cake ingredients
stuck cypress
its fairly easy.
limber socket
i forgot where i saw the cows and i havent found bees yet
stuck cypress
chickens, bees, and cows, then buy wheat seeds from merchants, find nice flat ground, become a godking of eugenics.
stuck cypress
i forgot where i saw the cows and i havent found bees yet
you want a hint?
stuck cypress
well 1: if you saw them you can check their habitat in the paldeck.
limber socket
no like saw in tje distance
stuck cypress
2: they're to the right of the blood church.
yes,.
they will appear in your pal deck.
if it spawns near you, you can see where it can spawn.
limber socket
even if i didn't get a name on them?
stuck cypress
I have something called a Shadowbeak in my paldeck.
I never saw the damned hting.
but its in my paldeck
with the locaiton it can be found
limber socket
huh
stuck cypress
if it spawns near you, it will be in your paldeck.
or so it seems.
which makes me annoyed because LOOK AT THIS LAD! I WANT HIM!
I woulda tried to catch him!
I mean the area was like level 40 so I probably had no chance but
I woulda tried.
bees are (if you want to know) ||near and around the weird stand alone ice mountain in the middle right of the map.||
Seen here if you so wish. (bee location on map)
limber socket
"put em up god" Gurm playing palworld probably?
stuck cypress
"put em up god" Gurm playing palworld probably?
me playing games in general but sure.
limber socket
its got the endgame enemy glowy patern going on
stuck cypress
endgame glowy pattern?
what?
ohhhh, the shadowbeak.
yeah
yeah thats absolutely the final boss of some JRPG in an alt reality
or at least the final bosses miniion
stuck cypress
yeah
somethin like that
but in this game he's just, somewhere, on an island.
idk, Ima hunt him down one day
dude looks cool as hell
limber socket
he's on vacation from eating heroes
limber socket
do you even need the heat/cold resistan gear btw?
stuck cypress
well except for the fact that, and spoiler for where he is found (shadowbeak) ||he's found on a nature preserve, meaning he's eating endangered species.||
limber socket
okay cause i unlocked them and haven't yet
stuck cypress
first off: they are more defensive than their baseline
and second: they make you resistant to the elements, not the damage, but hte elements
very useful
so yeah, keep a set of each type in your inventory.
limber socket
yeaaah
stuck cypress
also turn keep inventory on
unless you already did
its very useful, and I dont like loosing my stuff.
limber socket
i dont know what a grintale is but i wanna spray it with salt
cheshire cat looking thing
back to wonderland you!
limber socket
man i got killed by a sea snake
tame onyx
really wish the collar key items could be toggled off
they're strong, but my daedream keeps killing everything i want to catch
limber socket
the floppie necklace seems really good in comparison
ot stays by your side and auto collects items
gleaming fulcrum
The daedream necklace cost me a wipe once
tame onyx
?
limber socket
it give you the aggro for the attack
lapis tinsel
switch to daydream and order it to stop attacking, it should work with the necklace
tame onyx
again, wish it was a toggle so i could just use it for bosses
also, be great if it just stopped attacking pals you've thrown a sphere at
lapis tinsel
you can use the order menu on 4, but its a hit or miss on how quickly you do it, maybe it wil be changed on future who knows
ohh boi the breeding spreadsheet....
stuck cypress
THE SIGNS DO NOT WORK
WHAT?!
But
But I….
WHAT??????
I….. green I think your game is haunted
limber socket
are you using them to make your pals sort stuff? cause thats a lost cause
they said as much earlier too
also i have aquired moo
stuck cypress
No green wants to write on them.
Green are you trying to write in building mode?
I just gotta ask.
Trying to debug from across the screen is hard.
stuck cypress
very very strange
stuck cypress
i found a mineshaft and it just keeps going
neat.
I Found a werid rock nest with lightning birds in it
limber socket
what are you playing on green?
stuck cypress
PC
lapis tinsel
too close to other things maybe?
lapis tinsel
or its gamepass, i know it got updated so crossplay is posible now i think
silk belfry
No interact button whatsoeevr
stuck cypress
- it took FOUR. to get THIS AMAZING ROLL. GAD DAMN.
and now I need to get a lot more to fuse into them. let the waitening begin more. (spoilered due to pal appearence and name)
now, next on the list once I get enough to fuse, is..... the harvester.
after which I get to start trying to find a DPS pal.
Im considering Dazzi or Daedream, but then Ill also need a DPS pal that actually is out and active.
supposedly they're essentially identical, and well, its more a matter of which one looks better I guess.
hmmmm, Im thinkin..... Nox probably as a DPS pal, yeah, thats probably what Ima do.
if Im using Nox then I should probably use Daedream.
alright time ot hunt down a lucky Nox and a lucky Daedream, because both of those lunatics actually need the damage buff.
no wait nevermind, better plan
Lovander. who while ugly as sin, has a good passive.
which means Im free to use the easier to obtain Dazzi. (lovelander status screen spoilered.)
now time ot lucky hunt. yaaaaay. and I cant actgually quit this time because I need the DPS increase of lucky.
if I sound dead inside its because I am.
ima go for the Ragnahawk saddle before anything else though because I need that speed increase.
4 more levels
and its mine
stuck cypress
4. it took FOUR. to get THIS AMAZING ROLL. GAD DAMN.
and now I need to get a lo...
and a very interesting/important note: ||that ability baseline increases my carrying capacity by 100, which is pretty bloody good.||
anyways Im off to make food
oh and before anyone asks, no you cannot breed a lucky pal into existence, but you can breed the lucky trait down into a family line.
silk belfry
Made a mining base. It has currently not done as well as I had hoped because Ore is a bitch
And does not like to be gathered.
I may have to make my ranch an entirely separate base
stuck cypress
...... alright so weight increase pals, ranking them up doesn't do a lot.
Ive got my super giga lad right? yeah ranking them up twice, increased the weight limit by 20.
reminder its initial increase was 100
more is better yes, I was just kinda hoping it owuld be ya knokw, more per rank?
potent oriole
Doubling the bonus each time is extremely more realistic I would have thought considering the investment
stuck cypress
yup!
YOUD THINK THAT
WOULDNT YOU
Im hoping some patch will change it
because there is a pal that an increase of 10 would make sense for
the starting cat gremlin
but for the effort it takes to get this thing?
just an increase of 10 is insulting
potent oriole
because there is a pal that an increase of 10 would make sense for
So wait does that one get a 1 weight boost if ranked up?
lapis tinsel
that 125% increase on player mining is juicy
stuck cypress
So wait does that one get a 1 weight boost if ranked up?
I’m pretty certain it’s also 10
I think it’s reused code.
zealous needle
bitter notch
And does not like to be gathered.
You need level 2 miners to automine ore
The game doesn't ever tell you this, but hey
They'll also never automine while you aren't physically at the base, so it's purely a case of having to stand around waiting
Tho another tip to go with the above, the grappling gun lets you move while encumbered, and you can also fast travel while encumbered, great for hauling massive amounts of ore
stuck cypress
Essentially: doing it manually might as well be just as fast
really we should be able to refine stone into ore
stuck cypress
I wish there was a way to increase breeding speed
thats literally the 1 hold up
Ive got over 200 cakes
limber socket
tis the game telling you to slow down or make another breeding ranch?
stuck cypress
I would if it let me build more bases
But NOPE
Had to cap us at 2
If I had more pal slots I could do it but I’m at the max.
stuck cypress
I could but I didn’t want to do that too much but I might just crank it up to max.
Yeah ima do that.
lapis tinsel
max # of bases is 3
stuck cypress
Oh?
lapis tinsel
last one is lvl15 box
lapis tinsel
the big bottleneck is lvl12-14 all the requeriemtns ask for 30+ ingots each
stuck cypress
eh thats not that bad
Im just lazy
TWENTY PALS PER BASE
HOOH BOY
NOW THEM BE SOME NUMBERS
alright so that doesn't help me in the moment but it will later!
woo!
AND NOW MY PALS DONT RECOGNIZE THE BREEDER AS VALID WORK
COME ON GAME
lapis tinsel
ye looks like it have a low priority for jobs
either you build wall to trap the pals or get a friend to help throw the pair
stuck cypress
no you can yeet them in yourself
Ive done it before
I mean it error messaged me
so ima rebuild it
lapis tinsel
ohh interesting
did you built on top of a tree or rock?
i found my hotsprings were bugged because of that
stuck cypress
that fixed it
stuck cypress
i found my hotsprings were bugged because of that
strangely I think it was because I built other things too close.
so not natural gen
lapis tinsel
i found it with storage boxes, i built 4 in a row
my pals were dropping thing in front of them after they filled the first one
stuck cypress
....... oh my god
so um, funny story.
Guess Ima need to rework this.
I have now deleted every other chest
hopefully that should fix some issues I had been having
cause they had kinda stopped filling chests with resources
anyone know a high tier electricity generator
lapis tinsel
can use sparkits too
but they have handiwork & transport so they go away to do those task
stuck cypress
alright base level 15. woo.
turns out I had already kinda.... built most of what I needed
alright egg rate has now DOUBLED
given how high my food and cake production was I SHOULD be able to handle it
I mean I was gaining cakes in the old setup, a significant number, so doubling should be fine
bitter notch
I can't figure out what alpha pals do at all
People online say it's just a size increase
But I threw a kattessa or whatever on transport, it was moving 3 berries per trip
Threw an alpha kattessa on, and it was moving 5
Both blank traits (not that I think any trait affects carrying capacity)
stuck cypress
well they have a special tag, so, Im pretty certain its a stat bump
but other than that Im legitimately not certain
lapis tinsel
ohh if you want to know all the possible combos for breeding there is a spreadsheet
stuck cypress
very helpful thank you
dont quite need it yet but, very handy
now, I wonder, do alphas do jobs better, I mean Tya seems to have evidence to support
but
do I go for the alpha univolt
eh Ill do it
why not
yeah no thats, thats not happening
maybe if it was just one
but not with 3
look triple spawns is really fun til you realize every boss encounter has 3 of them
and you're playing solo
lapis tinsel
yep
i turned it down when i focused on base building
it also affects raids i think
the problems of 4 vixys on ranch....
time to build more metals chest
stuck cypress
it also affects raids i think
it does!
which is why Im doing all this eugenics work.
I mean breeding.
not eugenics.
does anyone know a way to stop the hud from constantly fading?
lapis tinsel
nothing i know of
stuck cypress
damn
stuck cypress
oh yeah now THERES a reasonable number of eggs
can only do 7 at a time but still, a lot more eggs, which is very cool
31 eggs, just enough (given the others I have in the bank) for one fusion. thats right. all of that, for +10 extra carry capacity
because game design
silk belfry
You can make 3 bases. My co-op world is one away from getting a third
stuck cypress
You can make 3 bases. My co-op world is one away from getting a third
Ive been told.
I currently can make 3 myself
its just thats never communicated until you can unlock it
which is quite frustrating
and online had a distinct complete lack of resources.
yup next up is SIXTY FOUR.
GREAT
NOT LIKE THAT TAKES A STUPID AMOUNT OF TIME
thats 2 and a bit full boxes of stuff
each box can hold 30 dudes
this game wants you to have over 2 boxes full of a single pal at one time. you cannot do this process piecemail.
if must be done in one go.
although I guess, hitting 4 stars, improves work skills.
apparently.
which can I just say, is such a punch in the face?
work speed, at no point, in this entire process, is improved.
but for the final, most expensive step, their work abilities get improved.
when the only pals you would ever do this with are mainline battle pals/support pals.
alright next place Im building is just gonna be a bunch of assorted pens so that I can get all the weird resources I need in large quantities.
Im talking wool, weird liquid goop, whatever else there is.
probably some random assorted nonsense.
alright so turns out the 2 resources I really need the most of can only be obtained via murder
so
guess Ill just sorta have to figure that one out
ohterwise uhh, yeah
the answer is I can get wool from ranches
.......
guess next base is gonna be a massive wool farm near some semi rare resources.
I guess.
I mean what else would I do.
why does nothing dig up bones form ranches? or produce pal fluid?
I feel like there are some pals that should do that.
once I finish this fusion session Ima try and get to that tree
unless someone else already did and I can save time
potent oriole
I think I got pretty near it, what did you need it for
stuck cypress
just for the hell of it
well specifically
Ive got pals on my paldeck that say they exist but have no known locations
and I remembered the last time that happened was because I hadn't found the area on the map yet
soooooo
Im thinkin its the tree
..... we can slide in this game.
oh my god
potent oriole
Yes.
stuck cypress
and it is so very jank
potent oriole
The speed it gives you also transfers to gliding
stuck cypress
huh
limber socket
cant wait for this to hit the discords where people hate
also pls link i konda wanna post it thwre
frail cobalt
Twitter
limber socket
thank you
frail cobalt
||I am vaguely disappointed with how quickly Wander jumped on the "Theses people are horrible bc they were okay with AI in its early days and one of them owns a crypto company", they developed the game with only $10,000||
limber socket
thats not even a hot take, almost everyone bandwagoned on either side the moment any allegations where made
silk belfry
I have managed to create a capable mining base using Boss Pals
Now I can just sit there whenever I need ore.
And go mining with them
I need to build my main resource base now.
silk belfry
I am annoyed by one thing though. Why do flying pals break every possible configuration of having a roof
I keep building it taller and they KEEP GETTING STUCK
stuck cypress
Nyeh
silk belfry
I would never trust them
stuck cypress
Look I just got up
Lemme have this one thing and you can rip it away from me later
silk belfry
Pfft. I want it too
stuck cypress
I keep building it taller and they KEEP GETTING STUCK
Because they hate us
silk belfry
But just as I didn't believe the first one about the models I a'int gonna believe this one immediately
stuck cypress
slight annoyance: every time you change world settings the day count resets
given I fiddle with world settings a lot for QOL, my day timer is just completely busted.
stuck cypress
Yap Yap The Destroyer now is star rank 4!
woo!
Pheonix is star rank 3, nearly star rank 4, so yay.
now the elephant grind begins, and Ill be breeding extra ragnahawks for pheonix to consume.
woo.
glass turret
Yap Yap The Destroyer now is star rank 4!
stuck cypress
very good
silk belfry
zealous needle
if he just did scaling, then that isn't editing the models - a uniform scale would be needed depending on the base units between the environments
like converting inches to millimeters or centimeters
stuck cypress
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/354721222900318210/1199755248227590225/...
awesome!
real happy about that
okay so the date rolling back is a bug, good to know
stuck cypress
https://kotaku.com/pokemon-palworld-comparison-models-plagiarism-ai-1851192901
yeah I..... given I am awake now and can think critically, the whole situation just seems a bit..... idk, manufactured?
gleaming fulcrum
Mabye
but I am not confident
it took Craftopia almost 3 years for them to implement the seamless world change
gleaming fulcrum
You typed at the same time
I am talking roadmap
A roadmap is imo kinda worthless if you showed in your previous game that you needed almost 3 years for a meaningful content addition
gleaming fulcrum
4th Sep 2020 was start into EA for Craftopia
28 June 2023 was the first real content update
stuck cypress
nobody ever said they were fast devs.
but yes
a roadmap is kinda worthless wehn you take 3 years to do things
hopefully they'll be faster this time
stuck cypress
last I checked weegy, they split off the palworld team back in 2021
and each team has been working indipendently
so, their production speed should still be the same
stuck cypress
its not just one lumbering corporation working on 2 games at the same time with one massive team, its 2 seperate teams.
stuck cypress
actually have money this time
a lot of money.
silk belfry
It'll take time for them to hire on and get everyone up to speed
stuck cypress
but then they will have a good number of devs instead of 3 dudes in a basement chained to their computers.
look I Just assume thats how they designed craftopia
palworld they did the same but with animals.
silk belfry
Oh also something me and a mate found out
Pals at an unloaded base still gather regularly spawning materials
So ore mining bases should function even without direct appearances
tame onyx
yeh
i've had a base behind desolate church to mine ore
though still not nearly as fast as i'd like
silk belfry
It's times when I need ore that I'll just go and hunt world bosses for ancient tech parts
It'll build up over time, especially since I don't have Mining 3 Pals
stuck cypress
Phoenix now 4 stared.
woo!@
also, do NOT build farms adjacent to each other
the game will let you do it
but the AI doesnt like it
I learned that the hard way when my entire cake base just started starving.
because it ran out of food
potent oriole
I wonder if pathfinding wise they cancel a task if they wander onto a farmland that isn't part of their task
stuck cypress
They forget how to grab the items
yeahhh, so anyways had to fix THAT.
everything else seems to now be working fine
now to start the next breeding project
Replacing ChopChop
stuck cypress
Gurm
arguably Im a good plantation manager as when the slaves die out I have new ones waiting in the wings to replace them, bred for the purpose of doing work.
stuck cypress
https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-they-should-gif-4683433
yes Goldbloom we know, you were right all along, now let me end the world already.
glass turret
I'm convinced gurm takes the fact it can be done as tacit endorsement of doing it
stuck cypress
I'm convinced gurm takes the fact it can be done as tacit endorsement of doing i...
thats..... I mean..... well.... from a certain perspective, arguably, something something big stick diplomacy.
stuck cypress
on the topic of the tree: ||every single map I can find seems to just not have it so I think its just a background asset?||
potent oriole
on the topic of the tree: ||every single map I can find seems to just not have i...
There are multiple things wrong in this picture
And also to publically state, as I told gur before, ||tree is a real thing||
Ah I see the true answer
Still technically ||not 'off map'|| though imo
Looks like everyone is right though so I can't complain too much, I was right about the parallax
potent oriole
Looks like everyone is right though so I can't complain too much, I was right ab...
Actually reviewing it for a second or two, ||seems like it is very much like it might be a locked off area for some kind of event/expansion or otherwise, because it is very much a landmass and it cuts off the corner of the map in a diagonal line, not just off map completely, the diagonal bit was me following the wall before deciding to break off to go to a teleporter||
stuck cypress
Actually reviewing it for a second or two, ||seems like it is very much like it ...
twas my thoughts as well. thank you for exploring it.
potent oriole
twas my thoughts as well. thank you for exploring it.
||But yeah I functionally knew it was a physical object because it had a fixed location in the world depending on what part you teleported to, hence the parallax thing I kept saying, so it was 100% a physical object. But yeah I could see bits of landmass like literally one person tall away inside the barrier, you could almost walk on it if not for the invisible barrier thing, so in my mind it is like 99% likely to be an area they expand later on, it isn't like some maps where it is off in the distance as a lower quality model for cityscapes and the like||
||I expect if someone debugs/noclips through the barrier they could probably get a lot of views about the "Hidden/Restricted world tree"||
stuck cypress
||But yeah I functionally knew it was a physical object because it had a fixed l...
||oh I completely agree I always knew it was a physical object, juts a matter of "can we actually GET to it" which clearly we currently cant.||
stuck cypress
oh hush danny
stuck cypress
yall know what I love?
when I throw my pal
DIRECTLY
into an opposing pal
and they just stand there
doing NOTHING
everyone, say hi to Yiggy, Yiggy is a daft moron who KEEPS GETTING STUCK IN WALLS. BECAUSE HIS STUPIDLY LARGE MODEL CAN'T DECIDE IF IT WANTS A HITBOX THE SIZE OF ITSELF OR THE SIZE OF A SMALL ELECTRIC RAT.
in other less frustrating news if people are trying to eyeball how many pals they need for a complete 4 star fusion, its roughly 3.8 boxes worth in total.
each pal box holds 30 pals, yall can do math on your own.
its a lotta pals.
arguably way too many pals for the small bonuses you get
especially since at rank 4 their ability to do work goes up by 1 rank.
for some reason.
even though its never mentioned anywhere
and just kinda happens
stuck cypress
my god the game just does not want to give the mining foreman.
one of these loons is gonna have to roll it
I know logging and mining can appear on teh same pal, game just doesnt wanna give it to me
stuck cypress
how. literally how.
theres literally nothing there to bump into and get shoved into it
he just
WALKED INTO IT I GUESS
YIGGY
stuck cypress
new batch of parrents, hopefully Ill get traits I want
stuck cypress
Yiggy keeps getting stuck outside of reality.
my god the larger pals in this game have some issues
I really hope they can fix that
glass turret
potent oriole
It has never been this 'Veganuary' and it never will, both you and apple stop trying to invent stupid stuff to market yourself better. Same for apples 'spacial computing' they are iron fist enforcing on their VR headset to all app/game developers, where they will remove any app that even dares mention XR/VR/AR
We reached a limit when there was more than 5 supposed 'events' per day of the year in every calendar date, now people stick whatever they want and call it a month, actually annoying
I suppose though @glass turret not as annoying as the romans remaking the calendar or whatever and adding a few months at the start
😛
glass turret
Middle ja
potent oriole
Didn't they also add january and feb? They renamed the middle months, not added them
glass turret
Augustus shoved them in the middle
Nah they added two July(Julius) and August(Augustus)
At least that's what I remember
potent oriole
Hmmmmm
errant pollen
https://twitter.com/ttvPalmer/status/1749992787016053102
Twitter
Scaling the models is not fabricating evidence, it's making them match so you can do a proper comparison between them.
If I trace a drawing with some modifications and then scale it to 50%, you would have to scale it back up to make the comparison.
glass turret
I'm with pirate software on this
It's all legal, if morally slimy
And it's been made, if people are enjoying it, who am I to stop them
About evidence in general
And it's Twitter, if Pokemon had a good claim they would've stopped it during dev or already issued a cease and desist
errant pollen
They said yesterday that they'll be investigating.
Chances are it won't be anything, but at least it'll be definitive.
My big issue is that while it's possibly legal but definitely slimy, ending my own support for the game has attracted quite a few people who don't like that I did so.
So we'll probably see them filtering into this discord or my comments for weeks to try and argue with me.
potent oriole
Scaling the models is not fabricating evidence, it's making them match so you ca...
At least to what it sounded like, the whole 'scaling of models' sounded a lot more like they were intentionally resizing features to make them fit what was needed, like if they made the tail longer to match and all that other stuff. Unsure the full extent of it but I think to some extent both sides being so oppositional are just trying to claw an advantage
errant pollen
The tail or the hair?
Because Pocketpair absolutely Frankenstein'ed a bunch of their monsters out of disparate parts.
glass turret
If it's different enough, I don't see the issue
errant pollen
And if you're comparing those parts you might have to scale them up.
glass turret
Similar to kit bashing Warhammer or Gundam it feels to me
errant pollen
The crux of that issue is if the pieces were copied directly from Pokemon.
If I trace a bunch of 2D Pokemon parts and assemble them into something new, that's shaky legal ground.
glass turret
Plus how big Pokemon is and has been for the past 30 years, i think pocket pair deserves some leniency since it's impossible to escape the shadow of it, especially in Japan and subconsciously
potent oriole
And if you're comparing those parts you might have to scale them up.
The way at least some of it felt; if I'm being a bit more literal, would be like if someone said your avatar you use is just a master chief helmet that had the jaw pulled out and the forehead pushed back, you have the blue lines on the bottom jaw similar to the black; etc
The argument could be made with 'rescaling' the different parts, just like the countless tiktoks currently going around of poorly photoshopping cats to transform them into any number of other things
Thats at least, what the standpoint it sounded like, while I know pocketpair isn't being fair with their models, it just feels like a weird argument
errant pollen
Honestly, if someone did that with Emile's helmet from Reach I'd love to see how much editing would need to be done to make them match.
Because his helmet is the primary inspiration for my helmet design.
glass turret
The whole thing is weird and everyone has gone armchair expert for the thing jaz
potent oriole
Ok, I was hoping me pushing that comparison wasn't going to offend you Wander, wasn't sure there 100%
glass turret
That's part of it for me
And part of me feels like engaging a fan base as big as Pokemon, anything would have pissed them off
errant pollen
Nah, it's not offensive. I had to be careful to avoid looking at Emile while making the design, and then had to cross reference afterwards to make sure they weren't identical.
Similar sure, but different enough that it's a proper homage rather than a rip.
limber socket
i mean that also good example of how using the same artstyle as pokemon, who has over a thousand monster, would end up having similarities
potent oriole
Either way, while I agree that pocketpair or whatever their company name is, might have crossed quite a few lines in how far they went. There is very much an element of people being rabid for the sake of it. The whole reason oppositions, all the 'antis/flats' etc exist, is because of how much active pushback those ideas get and people like being in opposition of things, even if they know it is wrong
errant pollen
Sorta. If you line my helmet up and Emile's, nothing will really match.
But it's really weird that if you line up a lot of pals with Pokemon or Pokemon parts, things match too well.
It might be legal, but it's not a great practice if we want to avoid endless mediocre clones.
glass turret
Well kinda, you've got the vents on the side of the helmet, very halo, a notch at the front, a division between the top ridge and the sides of the helmet(at the back of the glass)
Those are all very similar to emiles
limber socket
you're also not using the halo artstyle
glass turret
It's also that oblong shape
errant pollen
When I say match, I mean they don't line up.
The closest part would probably be the curvature of the bubble visor.
Yeah, not using the art style is the easiest way to get around the copying issue.
limber socket
like i do get the point of the argument, but it also just feels like an inevitability when using same artstyles
errant pollen
Because unless I traced something directly, it'll look fairly different.
limber socket
thousands of monsters
glass turret
And yeah, that's true
I dunno, it just really doesn't sit right, either side of the argument for me
They don't deserve defending because morally, it's slimy and copycat but legally, there's nothing that can be done and if there was, Xbox wouldn't have put it on gamepass
limber socket
like for the meganium dinossom head matching thing, that also like just how a dino head in that artstyle would look
glass turret
If people complain about your decision not to play it, that's a dick move on their part completely
The Pokemon look into it will reveal everything though
I doubt it'll go anywhere, since they didn't pre-emptively sue before it came out then did it immediately with the modder that replaced them with actual pokemon