Heresy? HERESY?! [Warhammer + 40k]

[tepid tundra]

tzeentch and lumineth stuff

ok yeh as i watch the stream vod that thing was a young barghesi which is wild now we know what they look like

[prime summit]

I think I'm going to have to spend an unreasonable amount of money on Boners this year.

They look so goddamn cool.

That battleforce was like, the thing I needed to complete my 2k army, so I'm pretty happy.

I'll have to wait until later to grab the archers/assassins/chariot.

[urban flint]

https://tenor.com/view/bone-holt-brooklyn-99-gif-26123082

I need to decide who to play as for my first Total War Campaign, no one is off limits

Should I mod the game?

[meager shoal]

id say no for a first playthough

[dense isle]

yeah fair enough.

[rotund moon]

coughs
Phrasing my good sir

[rotund moon]

Naw dont mod it.
I'd suggeeeeest skaven because ratmen funny yesyes

[meager shoal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/n0F6nmht5zs?si=LGTp1RBd7V-mVrg4

[dense isle]

get kitbashed fool

[vague gust]

Tomb kings, dwarfs, green skins, carhay are good intro campaigbs

Do NOT believe rhe lies and play franz

He is a awful intro

Because he now is surround by 1 nurgle lord, 1 ogre lord, vlad, the french, norsca, skaven, and possibly orcs and warriors of chaos if they push that way

He is a AWFUL intro lord now

[meager shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/dammaz-kron-dwarf-gif-27703552

[vague gust]

Thorgrim is good

Dwaves have many things that make them good such as their lowest possible armor value being 80

Which is usually other factions max

[rotund moon]

I made that mistake

it was awful

I refuse to play fantasy china tho :P

[urban flint]

What about the gizzards?

The lizard gizzards

[dense isle]

lizardmen are weirdddd?

I dont think they're a bad choice

they've just got some weirdness

oh they also have dinosaurs.

[rotund moon]

I think I wanna try high elves

hm

wanna play alarielle but dont have that DLC

guess its Tyrion

[rotund moon]

tyrion is good so far

turn one, won two battles

[tepid tundra]

i listen to none of this advice cause i just want to play chaos, lizardmen and something else that i cant remember

[rotund moon]

Ive got almost all high elves on ulthuan allied already

its turn 8

[tepid tundra]

elves do be friendly with each other

not the wood or dark elves mind you

[rotund moon]

high elves love eachother apparently

they do seem like the unironic good guys of this setting, at least at a glance

[tepid tundra]

ok so i have to do this cause now that they have the iron warrior tease thing your all probably going to eventually see this image if you dont already know bout it and be disgusted by it but its been show everywhere now

this is the image in question

yes it be a fake image

[rotund moon]

mega diplomacy

[rotund moon]

Aaaaaaaaaaa my allies are fighting eachother

[bitter eagle]

Elf v elf combat is a new one

Don’t think I’ve ever seen that happen when I’ve played elves

[tiny pike]

Dark and High elves fight each other all the time, that's kinda the thing with them.

[rotund moon]

well

these are two factions of high elf

and them declaring war on eachother forced me to pick a side and tanked my diplomatic trustworthiness

all my fighting so far has been on ulthuan

I've kicked out greenskins, slaanesh, two separate kinds of pirate

and finally ulthuan is united under the elves

[rotund moon]

Im conquering slaanesh lands and every time I get to just get alarielle's blessing on a city and instantly wipe out the slaanesh corruption

haha, yoink'

[bitter eagle]

Yer but this was high elves on high elves for got to specify the high part

[bitter eagle]

Average high elf campaign (minus the new guy)

[rotund moon]

haha

this is my first time playing high elves

its going really well

hah, build-a-daemon david is trying to invade so I summoned a militia levy and kicked his butt out

lore question: Are the lizardmen generally order or chaos aligned?

and short victory achieved

[tepid tundra]

there order

even then they see elves as stupid which is funny cause elves see everyone else as stupid

[rotund moon]

good to know

Lord Mazdamundi has been surprisingly diplomatic to my prince campaigning in naggarond

[tepid tundra]

they kinda hate pirates for good reason

they even have a written engagement with the dark elves who thought they were smart

[vague gust]

Also lizard men just want to left to their temples and such but if given the chance to fight chaos they will rush towards it without a second thought

[tall rivet]

https://youtu.be/z4Mr66sClCI

[dense isle]

@rotund moon you liked this guys songs yeah?

[rotund moon]

yeeee

hell yeah this rocks

[rotund moon]

HAAAAAAAAAAAH I WON

I only had to conquer the ENTIRETY of naggarond

[rotund moon]

oh I finally figured out why Morathi's voice seems so familiar. She also voiced the female Sith Warrior in SWTOR, which was my main character in that game

[urban flint]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/WarhammerMemes/s/ZgQw2oeV0j

[dense isle]

CLARANCE! OUR GREAT OVERLORD!

[rotund moon]

just started as balthazar gelt, holy CRAP the helstrom rockets are cracked

imagine this coming at ya

[vague gust]

Have you tried nuln yet?

She gets a even better version

[rotund moon]

nope

Is that Elspeth?

I dont think I have her DLC

[urban flint]

Did you know? Total War Warhammer 3 comes with all the DLC pre installed, except for one?

I’m telling you this for no reason at all

[rotund moon]

huh

[vague gust]

Huh?

[vague gust]

Also yes its her

Her hellstorms launch a vortex rocket does the normal explosion and spawns a mini black sun of xerxes on impact

[urban flint]

https://tenor.com/view/worry-men-in-black-dont-even-worry-about-it-will-smith-flash-gif-4753487

[vague gust]

squint

[rotund moon]

so anyway about that artillery

oh my god, I also got a few mods and one of them redoes important landmarks. Altdorf looks amazing now

[dense isle]

Oh that is so clean

[vague gust]

NAME

PLEASEP

Thats so pretty!

I need it

[rotund moon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3291116635

[vague gust]

Thank

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-steal-stealing-yoink-seeya-gif-10550534

[urban flint]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Grimdank/s/KNMIrrz3zA

[rotund moon]

and now the game is crashing every time i try to load a battle

[dense isle]

Damn.

[dense isle]

pat pat

[rotund moon]

so I got the DLC and uh I have the emperor's wrath steam tank unit on turn five

[vague gust]

Yep

Empire state troops are just like that

Theres also no cap on them btw so you can have a doom stack if them if you really wanted to

[rotund moon]

jessus

[vague gust]

Yea

Yet the empire still gets steamrolled

Just how much shit they start being at war with

[rotund moon]

forget the lustriabowl, the empire is the real thunderdome

[dense isle]

I mean it’s fantasy Europe will all the land diversity of Poland.

[vague gust]

Also you have the pretencious french as neighbors

And your most valuable port declared independance like nerds

The empire is truly the grandslam

[tiny pike]

Don't forget the Empire having one of their Elector Counts being a vampire.

[vague gust]

Whack a vlad is a right of passage

[rotund moon]

Holy heck. Are there any mods that make it so the empire AIs Don't get utterly steamrolled immediately after starting a new game?
Whenever I play the empire, it's collapsing around me from the word go, whenever I don't its completely wiped out by the time I get visibility on the area

its actually fucking stupid

[tiny pike]

I think there's a few mods to give the Empire a buff, but them completely collapsing in 99% of games is I'm pretty sure an intentional design choice.

[rotund moon]

Well its a stupid-ass design choice and I've elected to ignore it

[vague gust]

Its not a design choice for them to fail

Its just theyve had so many enemies added to their borders

And those other factions have all had some nice DLCs and buffs and such

The empire stats havent been touched since elsbeth

So they are in desperate need of new shit

Its also why vlad thrives in the empire

Theres always massive battles leaving thousands dead

Meaning he can just spam grave guard and terrorgheists super early before anyone has tier 3 units

[dense isle]

Yeahhhh

The empire were one of the first factions and it shows

[vague gust]

Its literally one of the only reasons vlad survives

Other then him being a stupid good lord

Its funnt and sad how factions are measured in power by “days since last DLC”

I know manffredd as a faction also gets obliterated by like turn two by settra

Bro has like nothing to help him start

But its ok because its manffredd

And hes a bastard who deserves it

[dense isle]

Setra may be a bastard, but at least he kills Manffredd.

[vague gust]

settra isnt a bastard hes just pompous becaue hes genuinely deserves to be like this

he earned every single title through merit

[dense isle]

Settra doesnt pay his taxes.

[vague gust]

he isnt a bastard just from ego its also because he has more then enough skill to back up his bark

[vague gust]

you wish you were him

[dense isle]

yeah.

[vague gust]

I cant wait for the nagash dlc

I think its going to be full of skeletons

[urban flint]

There is a mod for that

Two words, Steam Mechs

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3502673197

[vague gust]

Im aware of deithland

Its just when i mention that i mean fir official stuff all though deithland is amazing

[tepid tundra]

Settra makes the taxes

[tepid tundra]

and hopefully his big death birdmen

[vague gust]

Be strong clarence

[rotund moon]

what da heck

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855805415270252544/1463137962156884163/617438148_2374853646307672_3360409349796484046_n.jpg

[dense isle]

What?

[tepid tundra]

you dont know

the lion wants to speak with guilliman

still have no idea where the footage showing it is from though cause people never source it

[dense isle]

Alpherius lives.

[rotund moon]

wait

one of the gunnery school upgrades is

stealth mortars

that dont break stealth when firing

[vague gust]

Yes

Elsbeth is wild

[tiny pike]

Welcome to Elsbeth. Enjoy your sneak attacks.

[dense isle]

Elsbeth likes her cannons.

this reminds me of something Alucard said once upon a time.

[rotund moon]

I like the helstorm rockets.

Upgrades:
-More Rockets
-More Rockets!! (with emphasis)
-MORE ROCKETS!!! (with vigor)

not even joking

[dense isle]

MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yeah I love that upgrade naming scheme

very orky

[vague gust]

Elsbeth is a funny little lord

Who i think canonically spent 30 years in her mage tower without leaving

[tiny pike]

Standard wizard behavior.

[dense isle]

as one does.

pondering the orb is important.

[rotund moon]

theyre just standing there and getting shelled

[dense isle]

heeeeeh

[vague gust]

Hey para fun fact

[rotund moon]

ya?

[vague gust]

Bonuses from heros staxk

[rotund moon]

oooh

[vague gust]

So if you have 5 heros thar buff arty damage

Thats 5 15% increases

Dont think its been patched

[tiny pike]

A.K.A: ultra artillery damage.

[dense isle]

Funner fact. Legendary lord bonuses stack up to 50 max.

So only kill the 50 you really want the bonuses from.

[vague gust]

Yea but LL hunting sucks now because of how many of them die early

Also some lords just give dogshit traits

[dense isle]

Yeah

I feel like LL should respawn with warbands every so often ya know?

Like. These are LEGENDARY figures.

I dunno. I’m not a great game designer.

[rotund moon]

this is a freakin bloodbath

[dense isle]

Good god

You just shelled them out of reality

[vague gust]

Arty when it works it works good

[tiny pike]

You can still see the base color of the ground, though, so clearly not enough death has been inflicted.

[rotund moon]

I have a mod that reduces the blood splatters.

[tiny pike]

So clearly not enough death has been inflicted.

[dense isle]

I’ve always preferred a good Calvary charge ya know?

But arty

Arty has a special place in my heart.

[vague gust]

FRENCH DETECTED

[vague gust]

It always should

[dense isle]

Bahahaha. Those baguette lovers?! NAY. THE WINGGED HUSSARS ARRIVE!

POLISH DOMINANCE!

[vague gust]

Kislev

Never got into them

The hybrids kinda annoyed me

[dense isle]

Aren’t they Russian?

[vague gust]

Yes

They are all slavic mashed into one faction

[dense isle]

Rude

[tiny pike]

Kislev are amalgamated Eastern Europe.

[vague gust]

Also they have a unit called winged hussarls

[dense isle]

Damn

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vvfNUuSCLnc

well at least I still have Sabaton.

[vague gust]

Ive wanted to try brettonia for a while but i dont think theyve gotten a single roster update since release of games

[dense isle]

I think you may be correct

Which is a shame

[vague gust]

It is

They are cool

They just need some more stuff

[dense isle]

A dude beat their short campaign with only peasants

It was apparently awful

Who could have guessed

[tiny pike]

Of course it was. They were playing Brettonia.

[vague gust]

Like helmangorche with only zombies

Every fight will take 40 minutes minimum

[dense isle]

Like. You can do it. But there’s. There’s better challenge runs to be done.

[tiny pike]

Challenge runs that are actually fun, like Dwarves Axedwarfs only, or Wood Elves Trees only.

[dense isle]

Trees only is so awesome

You have some crazy synergy

Set all your trees on fire with cursed flame and laugh as your enemies crumple.

And you get all the benefits of elf BS without any elves!

[tiny pike]

I do wish modern Total War games let you have properly “generalless” armies like back in the days of Rome 1. Those sorts of challenge runs were really fun.

No general bonuses. Just pure tech tree and unit spam.

[dense isle]

Damn

That sounds awful. I love it.

[vague gust]

My biggest complaint about warhammer 3 is now when a LL revives from wounded he can just take command of any army anywhere in the world instantly for no penalty

[dense isle]

Ew

[tiny pike]

It also allowed for armies to be reinforced by other armies, a mechanic that’s gone missing in modern Total War games.

[vague gust]

Its really annoying when you have to kill archeon 12 times before you hit his capital because he wound time is like 2 turns

[vague gust]

They have that still

[dense isle]

You can still smush armies together i think.

[vague gust]

Yes and allied armies will join you

[dense isle]

He is called the Everchosen.

[tiny pike]

What I mean is building an army within a city and walking it over without needing to shuffle leaders around.

[vague gust]

Or if the skaven and dwarf are killing orcs they will automatically reinforce each other

[dense isle]

Ah. I see.

[vague gust]

Thats just the standard????

[dense isle]

[vague gust]

You build it walk it where needed then just give units

[dense isle]

I’m out of my depth.

[tiny pike]

Modern games require a leader in every army. Older entries like Rome 1 let you raw build the reinforcement army and walk over a stack consisting entirely of recruited units.

[vague gust]

I see

I see it but doesnt change much really

[tiny pike]

It also meant you could customize the garrison forces, as you could just build some units that stayed in the city.

Which was really helpful because it meant you could make the garrison forces not consist of the weakest unit types.

[dense isle]

But the skaven slaves make such great target practice!

But yeah

Fair

[rotund moon]

skavenslave only run

vermintide

[dense isle]

People have done that

It’s

It’s bad

Para, look at the leadership stat of an unupgraded Skaven Slave.

[tiny pike]

Why would you do that? That stat doesn't matter for Skaven Slaves. They're supposed to break instantly and run around like headless chickens. That's the entire point.

[dense isle]

Exactly.

[rotund moon]

this loser keeps asking for peace, nuh uh buddy you're next on the headsman's block

[dense isle]

"but. but what if peace?!"

[tiny pike]

See how much money he'd agree to pay you in a counter offer.

[rotund moon]

like 500 bucks

and im like

[dense isle]

"all your remaining cities"

[rotund moon]

lol, lmao

[tiny pike]

Is he sending the peace offer every turn? If so, 500 bucks might be all he has.

[rotund moon]

every few

anyways Ha get rekt if so

[tiny pike]

Then yeah, 500 bucks might be all he has.

[rotund moon]

I dont wanna deal with his stealth game nonsense

[dense isle]

oh my god that reminds me of one of the funniest CIV moments I ever encountered.

I was trying to end a war so I could dispand my army for economy, I was WINNING, OBLITERATING, but needed some cash flow. so I went to the guy I was at war with and I went "hey dude you want peace? you're losing" and the AI went "GIVE ME A CITY FOR PEACE!"

so I just stabbed them until they died.

[rotund moon]

so he's public enemy number #1 now that I thoroughly kicked Vlad's butt and scattered the ashes

HE WANTED A WHOLE CITY lmao

[tiny pike]

Civ AIs are extra stupid, yeah.

[dense isle]

the civ AIs can be. special.

[rotund moon]

there's always something the AI way overvalues in these games. Cities frequently

[tiny pike]

They could literally have no units, one city left, and no money, and they'll still refuse a peace deal unless it includes you paying them.

[rotund moon]

in stellaris its the rare resources

[tiny pike]

Stellaris it's Rare Resources AND Systems.

[rotund moon]

uh, not really

[tiny pike]

But only in peace deals.
Trade deals they hate the Systems.

[rotund moon]

they literally only accept systems if youre giving them for free

[dense isle]

wacky

[rotund moon]

There's some janky fkin design or code there

and you can never buy one from an AI

[tiny pike]

That's for Trade Deals, where there's extra lines in there to deprioritize Systems to prevent players from nuking AI economies with shit systems.

[dense isle]

grand strategy games have so much going on that honestly the AI overvaluing certain things or resources I just. like.

you just learn to accept and work with it.

[tiny pike]

In Peace Deals, though, they'll happily still prioritize Systems.

[dense isle]

Civ its cities. stelaris its.... whatever they feel like doing.

[rotund moon]

the fuck are you talking about hero

[dense isle]

CIV AIs frighten me

[rotund moon]

literally what

Peace deals arent negotiations

you click peace and you peace out

its a common complaint about stellaris actually

that peace deals are so oversimple

[tiny pike]

In a way they are. System control dictates if they'll accept the Terms of Surrender, unless you've been at war for 90 years and autopeace.

[rotund moon]

youre also wrong about how auto peace works but ok

[tiny pike]

And with the vassalage changes, a lot of AIs like to go for Vassalage CBs if able, to get those sweet sweet Rare Resources.

[dense isle]

Hero you sure you arent talking about some modded AI?

[vague gust]

Yea in stellaris theres none of that

[tiny pike]

90 years is an exaggeration to emphasize how long it tends to take for the autopeace from War Exhaustion.
Obviously it takes less time that that, but it still feels insanely long.

[vague gust]

Havent heard of a mod that changes it at all

It takes like maybe 5-10 in game years for auto peace in stellaris

And thats the max

Never have i seen a war last longer then that

[rotund moon]

Don't say one thing and backtrack into another

lol

[vague gust]

Only one i think lasted longer was fallen empire war or galactic emperor succession war

[tiny pike]

It depends on the CB type for the war.
Contain Existential Threat can go forever, basic conquering is 5-10 years (but feels longer because of being a war where you're actually doing things).

[rotund moon]

yknow what

honestly

[vague gust]

You can still get auto peaced in extermination of threat wars

[rotund moon]

Im sick of you just butting in like an authority with wildly incorrect nonsense. Im blocking you

[vague gust]

Lmao

[dense isle]

alrighty then.

[rotund moon]

Cant talk about anything here without it i swear

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855805415270252544/1463716668982165596/image0.png

[dense isle]

Trazyn be nice to the neighbors.

[urban flint]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-tts-warhammer-wh40k-40k-gif-17132610

[vague gust]

I miss TTS so much

It also sucks it ended with the not death of kitten

[solemn mason]

Fun watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJn_QWjSK1Q

[dense isle]

….. no they don’t.

No like actually with any degree of lore accuracy they are pasted.

The Darktide games are basically giant beacons of “this isn’t canon everything here is grossly exaggerated”

[vague gust]

nah i believe 4 bozo could easily carve a swathe throw choas guardsmen

[dense isle]

Your argument is very compelling……

[vague gust]

[vague gust]

i was going to argue with the existence of caiphas caine and be like if he can so can them kek

[dense isle]

No that’s not the argument you want. Cain is brilliant yes, but he’s a leader.

No.

You want SLY MARBO.

[vague gust]

true

[dense isle]

https://youtu.be/jCMNWAJiz5Y

[vague gust]

the resisdent crack addict of the 40k world

[dense isle]

Sly doesn’t have a problem. He can stop consuming angel dust whenever he wants.

[solemn mason]

idk, rules as written, they have a chance

not to mention how the simulator couldnt count Krak grenades due to them being a command phase thingy

[rotund moon]

is this tabletop rules?

[solemn mason]

Its how Fatshark gets some of their balance plans

[rotund moon]

Cuz lore-talking theyre getting pasted in 0.3 phemtoseconds

[solemn mason]

and in lore, Cain fought a world eater and won

books are so inconsistent its kinda funny

[rotund moon]

Cain is the protagonist of a major series of books, he has plot armour. Which is the strongest thing in 40k

[solemn mason]

So we ignore books then

[dense isle]

Cain is also the emperors silliest commissar. He’s got like 7 layers of plot armour.

No

We don’t ignore books

[solemn mason]

tabletop, 4-5 crackheads can paste a space marine

[dense isle]

We understand that not every book is equal.

[dense isle]

Also not an even remotely accurate source.

You average things Throck. And on average lore states spacies turn mortal fools into meat paste without really trying.

[rotund moon]

Tabletop has to do the funny thing where your army of custodes cannot instantly paste their army of imperial guard because its a competitive game with balance considerations

[dense isle]

Yea

Same with a video game

[solemn mason]

fine whatever

Spaceies fucking rule no fun allowed

enjoy

[dense isle]

No they suck. They die horribly to a lot of stuff.

[solemn mason]

Like 4-5 crackheads

[rotund moon]

4 dipshits dont win

[vague gust]

Fun fact i had 2 lemon russ vanquishers and a stormlord kill the void dragon

[rotund moon]

HUH

[vague gust]

Yea

Took 2 and a half turns but i did it

[solemn mason]

idk bash, books might not allow that

[vague gust]

Well fuck the books

[solemn mason]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[vague gust]

Books are ass source when every author has completely different concepts of a space marine

Such as the book where krieg killed a bloodthrirster by just mobtactics and artillery

Normally lore wise shouldve just made it stronger

[dense isle]

Yeah pretty much. But they’re more accurate sources for lore than video game or board game stats.

That doesn’t make them good. It makes them less shit.

[vague gust]

But it didnt

[dense isle]

It’s a cesspit of picking a choosing, and for the most part books are better at consistency.

[vague gust]

The options are a balanced board game, a balanced game, and the collective schizo posting of books we call lore

[dense isle]

…….

Well now that’s just rude.

[vague gust]

I say it in jest

Well half jest

[dense isle]

I’m gonna dip out cause we’re all looking a bit heated.

[vague gust]

Some books are good

Im kinda memeing here

Apologies

[dense isle]

Okie.

[vague gust]

So to take the memes away real quick

The books are ok because some authors understand and then theres others that are just downright wrong such as the single harlequinn killing 30 custodes
I could see it killing like 1-5 but 30 come on

Outer dark is great

Because it paints tyberos as a fucking horrifying blender of a space marine and its funny because get recked bugs

[rotund moon]

There are very different strata in 40k's power levels. Space Marines occupy like, a middle tier. Four Dipshits from a prison ship are bottom tier, and Darktide's beasts of nurgle were and are already critized for being way outta the reject's league

[vague gust]

Oh yea a beast of nurgle normally kills a squad of anything

Except in warhammer 3

4 thunders

And it dies

Or two choas dwarf blunderbusses

[rotund moon]

what ones are the thunderers?

[vague gust]

GOD i love them

Dwarf gun missile unit

Get them after quarrllera

[rotund moon]

I played a fight vs the dwarves the other day and their freakin flamethrowers were MONSTEROUS

[vague gust]

Irondrakes are evil and i love them

[rotund moon]

Irondrakes thats it

those things are EVIIIIL

(it turns out killing it with fire works wonders and the dwarves are very aware of this)

[dense isle]

Yeah. And tyranids always win. It just takes a while.

See the book where a nidd swarm literally just ran into a squad of stodes for a couple days straight until the stodes literally collapsed from exhaustion.

The stodes lost but…. It was a hell of a way to go.

Just gaunts.

[vague gust]

Yea

But tyberos im book actually killed the entire hive ship

Not a single thing left alive

So the real answer is power scaling in 40k isnt real

And anyone can beat anyone

[dense isle]

3 orks and a Squig took down an imperator titan. So yeah. It all depends who’s writing.

[vague gust]

Thats different those are orks

They cannonically can cheatp

[rotund moon]

Tyranids are my least liked part of 40k. Theyre just. Uninteresting. Unstoppable force that steamrolls everything in connects with.

If they ever do a 40k End Times it'll just be "and the tyranids ate more worlds until they ate every world"

[vague gust]

[dense isle]

Shock Jump Dragstas can teleport. And so they warped INTO the command center of the Titan. I love orks.

[solemn mason]

40K end times, that'll be the day

[vague gust]

There will never be a 40k end times

[rotund moon]

yeah

[vague gust]

GW REFUSES

to have any end to 40k

[dense isle]

They’d sooner pull an AOS40k than end it.

[rotund moon]

so the tyranids lorewise are an obnoxious ever looming threat that will eventually eat the galaxy but we're in a plot-time bubble where nothing actually progresses that far

[dense isle]

Yup.

I love them. They’re my lil buds.

[rotund moon]

I just dont like em

[dense isle]

Fair

[solemn mason]

So long as john main charecter of 40K doesnt progress the main story we're safe

[rotund moon]

Sometimes I wonder

[vague gust]

Also in all honesty even if the tyranids won

The necrons would just win

Because they cannicallt have 10 different ways to vaporize a system

[solemn mason]

and they aren't biomass

[rotund moon]

how much has actually happened in 40k in terms of Overarching Plot, in a meta/out-of-universe perspective,

It feels sometimes that all the lore events were backfilled and the setting lives in the eternal present where nothing new happens and everything stays the same

[vague gust]

Guilleman and lion came back
Mortartion met the emperor posessed guilleman and got his ass kicked
Vashtor exists now
Belakor is srill a whiney bitch
Magnus fought guillemann on the moon

[rotund moon]

For example.Was there ever a time IRL where 40k lore said Cadia still existed present-day? Or was the entire history of cadia including its destruction backfilled into the setting

[vague gust]

Thats literally it

Cadia stood for like 8 editionsp

Its death was the start of one of the new tabletop editions

[rotund moon]

ah

I see

when did that happen?

[vague gust]

13th black crusade

[solemn mason]

there was like, what, 50-100 years between space marine 1 & 2?

[vague gust]

Which i think was like 8th or 9th

[vague gust]

Yes

[rotund moon]

And yet plot-time bubble where nothing actually progresses

[vague gust]

Yep

We went from 30k to 40k in like 2 years

But now 30k and 40k are being written simultaneously

So now neither can progress ever

Again

[rotund moon]

guh

[vague gust]

I think the 47th horus heresy book recently came out

[solemn mason]

and no fantasy content shall be made again

[vague gust]

Because yes WERE STILL GETTING THOSE BTW

fantasy died for age of sigmar to exist

[solemn mason]

And fantasy is still preffered for me tbh

[vague gust]

It had more factions

Which made it cooler

80% of races died out for AOS to have like 6

[prime summit]

AoS has 4 grand alliances, but 25 factions now

Some are definitely more developed than others.

TBH the switch from Fantasy to AoS was very needed.

It let them ditch a lot of rules cruft, refresh most of the models cleanly, and also alienated most of the worst fans so the current playerbase is surprisingly wholesome.

It’s a wildly different game, from what I heard, which is why some still people prefer Fantasy, but it’s definitely GW’s best current product line in terms of consistency and quality. Not so much when it comes to memes or videogame adaptations, I suppose.

[tepid tundra]

and books are always a very narrow view point of events

well i should specify novels cause books then covers not just novels but also codices and campaign books etc

[tepid tundra]

i mean so is chaos its why we even had a story of chaos and tyranids properly encountering each other and it escalated into an all out war cause they basically ignored their victims and threw everything they had at each other like to apex predators fighting over a fresh kill

[meager shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494998822125043732/1464343072023515288/image.png?ex=69751f42&is=6973cdc2&hm=e8a85156bacc4b9f00adce52bf4a8bd582b994572d532a24c831f6cf2ff9f7df&

[tepid tundra]

so they finally put it in big book material now and not just on there community site that acheran is dead

in the 500 worlds campaign book

[vague gust]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iBGmc5jdu6Q

[meager shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128458474500653056/1465048747984814212/Screenshot_20260125-112731.png?ex=6977b078&is=69765ef8&hm=e3612c581affb2488e2f68a3352b776b1925079f74ae08f852477dfc6660ce37&

[vague gust]

heh

you see they did they bought 1 warlod titans for 2k and the other 4 parts for another 800

[tepid tundra]

its here brothers

[vague gust]

Is that perty

[tepid tundra]

no its a warsmith

and some iron warriors

honestly disappointed in these ones

just cause face

no wait its character

Kravek

[solemn mason]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2015817453394083980

Focus Entertainment (@Focus_entmt)

We've prepared an in-depth presentation of the new Techmarine Class in #SpaceMarine2, coming with Patch 12. 🪓
︀︀
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FixupX · Jan 26, 2026, 4:01 PM

[tepid tundra]

as long as we get a full helmeted version and i hope the iron hands champion skin is also helmeted too

[solemn mason]

Hell id go for a hood too

[dense isle]

Something to show less of that ugly face.

[tepid tundra]

for me its more i want something like the praetor helmet

[meager shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nidPIh0C1yk

[meager shoal]

hmm just had a video comparing eva01 to an imperator titan, who do you guys think would come out on top?

[tepid tundra]

whats the height of a evangalion?

cause its again one of those instances of agility vs extreme firepower

[meager shoal]

80m, also a matter of can the titan penetrate an AT field

[tepid tundra]

after googling it i would say yes with their strongest weapons

[urban flint]

In the final Siege of Terra book, the Emperor and Horus actually have a full on game of Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker using the Emperor’s Tarot cards.

And somehow the author managed to play it off dead serious, fate of the universe.

Peak 40K as far as I’m concerned.

Huh????

[dense isle]

Children’s card game.

And no

They didn’t

They’re meming in relation to Emperor with TTS

[urban flint]

I wanted to post the art of Star Child walking up from a nightmare about a Wind Up Kitten

[dense isle]

There’s this Tzeentch one

[tiny pike]

But what does Windup Kitten do? :P

[urban flint]

It’s too blurry to tell

We need more pixels Gur

[tiny pike]

Does it let me draw 2 cards from my deck?

[urban flint]

We’ll never know

[dense isle]

WIND UP KITTEN HAS A SPECIAL ABILITY! tick tick tick mrowl

UPON ACTIVATION IT RETURNS A MONSTER TO MY OPPONENTS HAND! YOU’LL HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND!

(Sorry for late follow up I was ranting about CV1/2 lore)

[tiny pike]

I guess we'll truly never know. Just like we'll never know what Pot of Greed does.

[dense isle]

Yeah now that card is a mystery

[tiny pike]

Weird how they use it so much in the Anime yet never explain the effect it has.

Must be why it's banned IRL. :P

[dense isle]

It’s actually only limited in certain formats

Heavily

But technically legal

[tiny pike]

In one format, that one where you get a point total you can spend on cards and each card has a specific point total, and the cost of Pot of Greed is such that you essentially only have a deck consisting of Pot of Greed and nothing else if you try to add Pot of Greed.

[dense isle]

I didn’t say it was a good idea

[strong widget]

I like immortal empires expanded which has settings to push some factions out to the new regions and make the empire slightly less fucked

[strong widget]

For my first turn I will play pot of greed and immediately lose!

[dense isle]

oh hi Ran.

[spring flint]

https://bsky.app/profile/voicesbyzane.bsky.social/post/3mdtihkxhcc23

Zane Schacht - Voice Goblin (@voicesbyzane.bsky.social)

-# olivia (@greatgrebe.bsky.social)
Space Marine (watching me play Animal Crossing): Your island is infested with foul mutants.

Me: They aren't mutants, that's just what animals look like in this game.

Space Marine: I see. (Biskit asks me to give him a new catchphrase) Teach it to praise the Name of the Emperor.

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Bluesky · Feb 1, 2026, 11:31 PM

[dense isle]

40K can be wonderful at times.

[dense isle]

Heeeeeeh

[vague gust]

https://x.com/i/status/2018160376773562717

Warhammer 40K Art (@40kARTdotcom)

Emperor of Mankind Meets Star Wars Funny Meme

X · Feb 2, 2026, 3:11 AM

[urban flint]

Reminds me of the time someone drew an Executor blowing up a 40k Battleship, then immediately drew the Battleship ramming the executor and cutting it in half

[dense isle]

Checks out

[trim cypress]

HERESY DROP

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OiJ7EuklHo0

https://klipy.com/gifs/zoidburg-woop

[rotund moon]

better run before the 'quistor with a boltgun gets here

[tepid tundra]

mutilators are in now

[dense isle]

love the drill

queue sororio days

[tepid tundra]

there do be more but i chose this one cause of the helmet

i likde them helmeted

[dense isle]

Same

I’ll miss the old guys but

They needed the glow up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689298663574339634/1467958569570664478/600px-ChaosMutilators2012.png?ex=69824674&is=6980f4f4&hm=9d47af389a52ee46d18d690b0669fed838b915f649f58616e461ce9750effee1&

Like they

They were ugly.

[urban flint]

“Versus”

A few earth’s on the brink of destruction tried summoning hero’s from other earth’s all at the same time, when ended up merging their worlds

[tepid tundra]

yeh ive been reading it but waiting for more updates

already figured out which ones are just survivors and which ones are genuine horrorifc threats

[rotund moon]

imagine the possibility

[tepid tundra]

i think alot of people agreed the heresy would be so much worse

[dense isle]

I dunno. I say give it a shot.

[tepid tundra]

i know the real reason your so into it gurm

you cant fool me!

[dense isle]

YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!

[urban flint]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Grimdank/s/F4BbmRkIhl

No sound, if you know, you know

[tiny pike]

https://www.ign.com/articles/games-workshop-issued-ftl-in-a-warhammer-40000-skin-steam-game-with-a-dmca-takedown-because-of-oversized-convex-shoulder-pads-with-a-metallic-rim-dev-says

[dense isle]

yeah I mean.

we all knew that was coming.

the exact reason is. silly.

but lets be real. that entire game was EXTREMELY 40k.

I am astounded it lasted this long.

[tiny pike]

GW clearly decided they'd gotten too much good PR with the statement about forbidding AI use in officially licensed derivations of their IP. :P

[dense isle]

but yeah that trailer got nuked. thankfully Void War is still alive. but..... as seen here GW is watching them absurdly closely.

[rotund moon]

honestly I saw vids of that game and I was shocked it was getting away with drawing so heavily on both of its inspirations

[dense isle]

oh that game actually has full scale permission from the FTL guys.

[rotund moon]

Doesnt even feel like exaggeration to say its literally FTL with a 40k reskin

oh does it?

thats good

[dense isle]

yea

I wish it would step.... slightly further away from 40k for its own safety.

[rotund moon]

shame about the GW stuff

yeah

[dense isle]

but yeah. it does have permission from the FTL people, which I think is super cool.

[tiny pike]

Yeah, the FTL guys are super okay with their game being aped on, as long as you don't do a complete 1:1.

[rotund moon]

I like that

Indie devs being chill w/ eachother is great

[tiny pike]

As long as you change things around so that it's not just another download source of FTL/FTL:AE, they're actually fine with you taking and using quite a lot of the code of their game.

[north hedge]

Why are cities of sigmar a hoard army but also have very detailed model

[meager shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128458474500653056/1470147267653800091/facebook_1770580811183_7426354178668323738.jpg?ex=698a3cd6&is=6988eb56&hm=1269c8760353f53159f4083f693b4de13d06a08ecbc37be506532329b9875d58&

[dense isle]

yeah no best to just leave that area for like

a decade or 2

just in case.

[tepid tundra]

ok they actually cooked with the defilers

[dense isle]

Damn.

[solemn mason]

Darktide Patch notes https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/494967984678241600?l=english

only balance stuff is to hive shcum

[dense isle]

enjoy redoing your tallent trees!

[solemn mason]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-mad-rage-throw-chair-gif-17318750

[dense isle]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[tepid tundra]

damn

[solemn mason]

Played last night. Surprisingly they didn't reset

I guess cuz it was just numbers changes and not reworks

[dense isle]

huh

[solemn mason]

Also the server connections are still hot garbage

[dense isle]

Rip

[dense isle]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-beep-mechanicus-gif-19305244

[urban flint]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/s/0smHd965RU

[static blade]

Pfff, new headcanon accepted

[dense isle]

Trazyn got duped by the Ea Nasir classic.

[dense isle]

I sent this to another server and got the best response,

“Plot twist: Ea-Nasir was one of the Emperor's incarnations”

[urban flint]

I cast

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[dense isle]

Damn

[meager shoal]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/orks/comments/1rbhybg/dese_umiez_are_krazy_wh40k_x_asterix_i_think_a/

[vague gust]

we got the eye of terror before gta6

if you want the actual science and stuff heres the link
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/chandra/nasas-chandra-diagnoses-cause-of-fracture-in-galactic-bone/

[tepid tundra]

so we got a new knight

now that i think about it this is the time we got a knight with those legs in the current era offcial wise

[vague gust]

Damn knights actually starting ti look more like Knights

[solemn mason]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-uhoh-we-are-so-f-alan-alan-we-gif-4265882979042768268

[tepid tundra]

is it cause of the melee?

[solemn mason]

Tau that can use guns in melee

[tepid tundra]

what about breachers?

[solemn mason]

Idk what those are off the top my head

But having tau units where one of their only weakness' (melee) can have them use their guns

And i think them doing more damage at that?

[dense isle]

Oh Jesus Christ.

[dense isle]

It can use 1 gun in melee.

Just its pistol.

No the scary thing is that they gave it melee guns.

Which is technically different

But yeah that’s

That’s an all rounder tau. Good god.

Thankfully it’s an epic hero.

Bad news is that it’s probably gonna get run in a ton of lists.

[solemn mason]

Theres more than the pistol on that table

[dense isle]

You misunderstand.

I’m talking about the ability to use its ranged weapons in the shooting phase.

Not it’s themed melee weapons

Of course it is a vehicle so it can call upon “big guns never tire” but

Technically only the [PISTOL] can fire into the people it’s meleeing.

[rotund moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEQ64ECBjMU
I cant not share this

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222078231040229376/1476160040221151316/image-8.png

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222078231040229376/1476204282876268614/warframe-x-warhammer-meme-dump-pt-4-v0-w7xl5w5p06vb1.jpg

Ok im curious why warframe and warhammer are having combined memes now

[dense isle]

@vague gust because Rebeca went onto a Warhammer podcast.

[vague gust]

cool

[static blade]

Warframes would probably instantly fall to Nurgle

[rotund moon]

What

What in the WORLD makes you say that???

[tepid tundra]

warframes would just be an insurgent group in the sol system because well yeh they cant travel outside of the system but they can travel around our solar system pretty fast

[solemn mason]

They are ||a strain of Infestation||

Which osnt a disease per se but could be argued as such

[rotund moon]

And... That instantly makes them enslaved servants of nurgle how

[tall rivet]

Cause

[meager shoal]

and would tenno abilities be psycher and thus the sisters of battle totally shut em down

[rotund moon]

what

sisters of battle are not nulls

or blanks

[vague gust]

Sister of silence also just being a sentient virus doesnt mean nurgle owns you, you kinda have to let them in

[rotund moon]

are you thinking of

the sisters of SILENCE?

the ones who dont leave the golden throne?

[vague gust]

They do

[meager shoal]

probally

[vague gust]

They are the female custodians para so they just accompany them places

[dense isle]

Mhm. And what are their saves?

Because I bet you that dwarf has a bad one.

[tiny pike]

Watch it be 2+. :P

[meager shoal]

5+

i think these are the other one with save of 4+

[dense isle]

That. That says 2+

And I know for a fact spacies have protection ploys.

Like. Saves are (often) better than toughness.

[tiny pike]

SV of 2+, invuln of 4+

[dense isle]

4+ invuln*

Yeah termi’s are BEEFY.

[tiny pike]

Shush. 4 is next to 5.

[dense isle]

[meager shoal]

so the termite wins on both saves

[dense isle]

Yes

Termis are really good

[meager shoal]

assuming the dice play nice 😛

[dense isle]

And unlike Mr epic hero, you can have BRICKS of them

[dense isle]

That’s all of 40K

[dense isle]

You ever tried to chew through a full squad of termis? Lemme tell you. IT DOESNT WORK not unless RNGesus comes down with spite and rage against your foes.

[ebon spruce]

Well Techmarine have released in SM2

Chance to play him in public....uh welp dint had bloody chance 2 matches at all

[dense isle]

Rip

[earnest prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2TXVLIWQv0

[tepid tundra]

yeh slaanesh is in boltgun 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlFe0nRFYiE

[rotund moon]

Here I thought no one but Creative Assembly would be brave enough to put slaanesh into a videogame

Its always nurgle this, nurgle that, spice with occasional khorne and once-a-blue-moon tzeentch

[tepid tundra]

its now more evidence to throw at peoples heads like a brick for me

[solemn mason]

the weapon discrepency is brutal

[dense isle]

the little gear on the back just makes it that much better ya know?

[flat halo]

Is it because the one is better at blocking?

[solemn mason]

oh block is bad actually

it means you get no parry related skills and no gun strikes

heres a funny bug me an d a bud had

My perspective

Theirs

[tall rivet]

Man found a pretty good kriegsmen x diggy diggy hole song but it ended up being ai unfortunately

[solemn mason]

I've found my robot twin

[meager shoal]

a minion in warhammer? :p

[urban flint]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Grimdank/s/CbOwQYxTlA

[urban flint]

These are the two images I mentioned a while back, by Hexanity

[urban flint]

Here

[meager shoal]

but wheres the choppa fit in?

[rotund moon]

The philosophy of the Orkish Dakka Dao is still young

[dense isle]

The Dao is a way of observing all things. If dakka is harmonious, an existence that is perfected, the Choppa is a cleaver of fate, scraping away the unwanted unharmonious elements attempting to disrupt that perfection.

[meager shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510558128723460096/1477736778420195440/HCPSNkXbEAAJjqZ.png?ex=69a5d91e&is=69a4879e&hm=260fd22b7564a8c6fa25f9babd9210f2ae34ca1013a99b8f14ff7d0d59d07850&

[dense isle]

Of course brother.

[solemn mason]

FIVE HUNDRED?!

[dense isle]

five hundred apparently.

[solemn mason]

i dont think anything in the whole game costs 500 req's

I lied

Cosmetics are

not the 2nd squad perk of tech marines

[dense isle]

I see

thats

still ludicrious.

[solemn mason]

verdict of tech marine thus far

very fun, quite good, not op by any means.

Please give him lines for older missions

i did a solo without bots to try and get something but i kept getting the disembodied voices of every other marine but not our mechanicus brother

[ebon spruce]

Also people say paid voices....are missing mission lines to

[solemn mason]

For the lines they do have they also have zero helmet modulation

[ebon spruce]

YEah....i get why people mad at update

It's feels unfinished

Especially for paid stuff

Barter of characters imho one of most important part in SM2

Gives same feeling of Vermintide 1-2

[static blade]

The alternative was she turned to tzeentch and doomed the sector with her slogan "come join the dark powers, we have cookies!"

[dense isle]

That’s how they get ya.

[static blade]

Always starts with free snacks, and cool gizmos, then it turns out the snacks had cordyceps in em, and the gizmos were covered in knives

[urban flint]

https://youtu.be/kcHq_c8EypU

[urban flint]

https://youtu.be/scx97qLtsd4

[fathom stump]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775762699002183710/1479542151506432042/HCskPkMaUAEpTME.png?ex=69ac6a81&is=69ab1901&hm=24d690d26c0c577c7a12f5798206257f6326a08d907169a05ea5ae9b285ca380&

[dense isle]

How does she know

[fathom stump]

he's premptively doing the chores

[solemn mason]

She's a Psyker, duh

[solemn mason]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/534377017995428239?l=english

And the Crowd goes Mild

[dense isle]

…… wooo….. I guess……

[solemn mason]

“He is very fast for an Ogryn. Very fast and very heavy, and he will keep up with you!”

Every single enemy does this already

We all have magnets in us and they will just, hit you if you dont dodge

[dense isle]

Yeah

Like

That’s just

He’s an enemy from Darktide

That’s what they do

[tepid tundra]

orks

[dense isle]

Nice

[dense isle]

Yeah

[fickle hazel]

Why doesnt this work?

[dense isle]

you dont have perms.

its a trust thing.

tldr: be around and be respectful and get dipped in orange. then you can have image perms.

[fickle hazel]

ok, makes sense

[solemn mason]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/515237350113017925?l=english

Finally

Darktide's take on Chaos Wastes

[ebon spruce]

Pog

[solemn mason]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-new-free-update-beyond-the-hive-is-coming-march-17/119275
https://youtu.be/QFFyn5SqqYY

[prime summit]

“So how was your day?”

“Eh, alright. I spent most of my afternoon giving tiny rats colorful wet willies.”

[rotund moon]

Pardon

Oh, you mean toes?

I had a "Huh" moment because where I'm at, Willies are a childish slang for the benis

Might be a britishism

[olive rivet]

this is the same guy who calls skeletons Boners, I bet its intentional either way

[solemn mason]

The Ears too

a "Wet willy" is when you lick your finger and stick it in someones ear over here

[rotund moon]

Huh.

I seee

[prime summit]

Wet willies are a super old fashioned prank. They might precede willy as a slang term for dong, but I’m not sure.

No one does them anymore, which is a very good thing. They were disgusting.

[rotund moon]

Yeah sounds nastyy

[solemn mason]

very

[olive rivet]

someones finger unconsented in my ear sounds like a no, their spit is an extra level of 'aw hell naw'

Spit also just being a very filtered and specialised subset of your Blood can also complicate things if youre a bio nerd like me. Makes the hell naw more extreme for me tbh.

[dense isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/313825562370113546/1482126751554601072/IMG_9050.jpg?ex=69b5d19a&is=69b4801a&hm=0b621272d74482768863087730a19e2a2c5e09be8ccaf24082cf50b0e58e43d1&

[dense isle]

Yeah. High risk of ear infections or damage. Bad stuff.

[dense isle]

My spit is what

I knew it had hardcore painkillers in it among other really useful stuff but. It’s blood??????

[rotund moon]

Huh yeah that's a new one to me, too

[prime summit]

The squeakers have socks now.

I knew this would take a while, but I didn’t realize it would take this long.

7 hours for flesh tone + light fur today.

Then again, the big sections are probably going to be way easier & faster.

[frosty quail]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Grimdank/s/OklhaFBwh5

[meager shoal]

...did the custodes share their body oil or did the magi manage to take it by force?

[tiny pike]

Yes.

The Custodes shared the oil BECAUSE the Magi managed to take it by force.

[dense isle]

Nice!!

https://tenor.com/view/tts-custodes-pillar-men-gif-15519847

That was meant to be in response to hero but discord bein dumb

[vague gust]

now i want furless rat ogres doing pillarmen poses

[tiny pike]

186 guardsmen, actually. Gotta have 6 extra to shoot with the Commissar to keep morale high.

[urban flint]

20 just for a round number

[vague gust]

A worthy sacrafice

[dense isle]

so you're saying for 200 guardsmen I can shove Angron into kiddie corner from which he can never escape?!

SOMEONE GET ME 400! AND MAKE IT SNAPPY! I'VE GOT A DEMON TO KILL!

[tiny pike]

You also need some Commissars to shoot some of the Guardsmen every turn in order to keep morale high.

[dense isle]

you are right. hmmmmm. 7 commisars you think? at least one with a tank yeah?

[tiny pike]

Make it a clean 12, two in a Lemann Russ.

[dense isle]

fair nuff

queue commisar getting a piggyback ride on Primarch Russ returning from beyond the warp

[tepid tundra]

man i remember in the unification mod someone was just IS THAT ANGRON as i threw him at there base

[tepid tundra]

his back

[dense isle]

Woo!

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358752811657330700/1483128634918047938/yarrick-lives-v0-glhki8tubfpg1.png

[dense isle]

You can’t keep a good man down.

[vague gust]

GW revived him because they were to much of a coward to write a book where gazgul absolutely thrashes angron into a new painjob

ghazgul would beat angron

[dense isle]

He would

[tiny pike]

Which is why they can't let Ghazgul reach a situation where he would beat Angron. After all, Angron's a Primarch, the only person who should ever beat him is another Primarch.

[solemn mason]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ovqPBWWgCh0

Blightstormer physics are on the way it seems

[vague gust]

ghazgul is actually one of the two lost primarchs boom problem solved

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978106915966033920/1483465631155228723/image0.jpg

[dense isle]

And then they kissed

[vague gust]

Ontop of angrons corpse

:p

[dense isle]

Of course.

[vague gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855805415270252544/1483536139385045182/in-light-of-recent-events-v0-3my4xbyi4hpg1.webp

[solemn mason]

why are these higher numbers even listed if they physically cant get that high?

[meager shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128458474500653056/1483861167465037886/facebook_1773850460689_7440068082673577205.jpg?ex=69bc20e7&is=69bacf67&hm=2152667ad385f935ebd3e03620101668f8cc2ae0cd47a40ecd78e9c9ddd8d123&

[velvet stag]

Alright, so, the Armageddon stuff. How "recent" is it, timeline wise? Like, is this reliving a battle of old, or is this relatively new?

[dense isle]

Armageddon meaning?

[tiny pike]

Gonna need context here to be able to answer.

[dense isle]

The books? The crusade? The general lore?

[velvet stag]

The new yarrick announcement thing

[tiny pike]

Ah. Yarrik not being dead.

Pretty sure that's "recent but who the fuck really knows, there's no actual canon ordering in this gods forsaken timeline" thing.

[dense isle]

I don’t believe Yarrick is part of Armageddon but timeline wise that is officially the most recent event to occur in the 41st millennium.

If you want a date?

We don’t have one

[dense isle]

Also equally possible

[tiny pike]

Other than the biggest events like the Great Crusade, the specific order of things is left completely unexplained.

[dense isle]

Hold on one guy explained it to me really well

Need to find a screenshot

[velvet stag]

So yarrick, to the best of our knowledge, is currently alive and kicking

[tiny pike]

Yes.

[velvet stag]

Hell yeah

[tiny pike]

Because it's been officially stated he is.

Hence all the memes.

[dense isle]

Snippet of a conversation I was in the other day about retcons and what not.

[tiny pike]

Other person is correct with that last part.

[dense isle]

“Safe” events being like, the great crusade, Horus heresy itself (but not the events in it), Sanguinius dying (debatably anywho), etc etc.

[tiny pike]

There's some events/lore that we can consider safe.

Namely: The overarching stuff of the Great Crusade, Horus Heresy, Men of Iron, etc.

[dense isle]

Men of Iron I love but wouldn’t personally consider safe?

Character deaths…. I’ve got a quote for this if I can find it.

[tiny pike]

More referring to the fact of them existing at one point.
Since the whole point of them is that what they did triggered the "No Abominable Intelligences" rule in current day setting.

[dense isle]

There's an old joke among the patrons of Lassiter's Den: “If you think that you've finally killed your nemesis, but you don't find a body? You didn't kill your nemesis.” The jape was always followed by the corollary: “If you do find a body, the odds go up to fifty percent.” (Quote is from “Chronicles of Fid” good book)

[tiny pike]

Specific events involving them, sure, those wouldn't be safe, but the fact they existed and really fucked up Humanity towards the end of the Dark Age of Technology is almost certainly safe.

[dense isle]

Ah yes fair enough

[dense isle]

So we found Yarricks skull that one time. And. Yet he lived.

[tiny pike]

Obviously Warp time travel fuckery.

[dense isle]

Cause he’s just that good.

[dense isle]

My bet was orkish belief reviving him like they do with Ghaz.

[tiny pike]

It was Yarrick's skull, just from the far future.

[dense isle]

Interesting

[tiny pike]

That's my bet.

[dense isle]

Fair nuff

[tiny pike]

Because it's canon that the Warp can facilitate time travel.

[dense isle]

Very true.

[tiny pike]

There's that one Ork Warboss that went back in time and killed himself to get two of his favorite shoota, after all.

[dense isle]

Good times.

[velvet stag]

This is why I was asking

[dense isle]

Yeah totally understand. He is now alive as far as we know.

[tiny pike]

(Either that or the Nids are doing something really sneaky. But GW aren't known for doing smart plotlines, so it's probably that Yarrick is indeed just still alive.)

[dense isle]

Got a new model and everything

[dense isle]

GW isn’t clever enough for that.

At least. Probably not.

[tiny pike]

Looks at the Terminus Decree

[dense isle]

It’s not real. It’s not real. ITS NOT. REAL. Collective insanity.

That or greyknights aren’t going to be playable in 11th because they’ll all be DEAD.

[tiny pike]

Personally slaughtered by a singular member of the Custodes and a few Custodes-employed Blanks during whatever event they do for the transition from 10th to 11th.

[dense isle]

“They grey knights will keep the emperor on the throne”

My brother of Terra. You numbnuts. A single custodian shield captain and a couple of blanks could turn your entire feeble organization into meat paste before you finished reading that note.

Because they’d have seen the future and stabbed you before you could attempt such a thing.

Because the custodians have SEERS.

So frigkruegtigrvgdfd

https://tenor.com/view/frustration-frustrated-bang-head-gif-5341546

[tiny pike]

And the Blanks would only be involved to make sure that no Daemons get spawned from an idiot Grey Knight tapping into the Warp.

[dense isle]

Of course.

I mean otherwise it might take 2 custodians. And that’s just overkill.

[tiny pike]

The Custodes would be able to do the filleting just fine alone, it's just better to be certain of complete success.

[dense isle]

Mhm!

[solemn mason]

Please send all 1000 Grey Knights to the psyker eater 9000

It will be very ok

[tiny pike]

Solve the issue with a single day of Corpse Dad feeding.

[dense isle]

“You are all invited to Terra for a weekend getaway. All will be well.” -The Emperor.

[solemn mason]

Exactly

[dense isle]

Pure genius.

[tiny pike]

*Terra

Two rs, in the name.

[dense isle]

Oh right.

[vague gust]

Who would win 1 shield captain and his null wife or 1000 pyschers who just got within range of the wizard mindfucker woman

[dense isle]

I dunno I think the null wife would win.

She’s gotten really good at stabbing.

[tiny pike]

"Atomic Bomb vs 1000 coughing babies" ass question

[vague gust]

Lol

[dense isle]

Pfffffft

[tiny pike]

The Shield Captain is just there for moral support of said Atomic Bomb, even.

[dense isle]

Lmao.

[tiny pike]

But yeah, the Terminus Decree is stupid, it's probably in-universe the Inquisition being uber ultra stupid as always, if the Grey Knights ever actually try to follow what the Decree apparently says, they will die.

[dense isle]

Yeup

[tiny pike]

The only question of their death is if the Custodes will make it swift and painless or swift and painful.

[dense isle]

I’m kind of hoping the guy who found it will go “oh hell naw that’s a trap”.

But that might be too high level.

[tiny pike]

(But seriously: It's either the Inquisition being uber ultra stupid as always, or Tzeentch trying to pull a funny.)

[dense isle]

Yeah

[tiny pike]

Big E himself could see the future a little bit with his own Pysker powers. There is no way the Terminus Decree is actually from him.

[solemn mason]

Blaming the blue man is always acceptable

[tiny pike]

Girlyman is probably innocent here.

He's too busy hanging out with his hot elf girlfriend and making the Blueberries's organization even better.

[solemn mason]

Fanon but i choose to believe its real

[tiny pike]

And that he's the only one that interpreted Big E's "Fuck Xenos" correctly. :P

[vague gust]

In lore they said 2 sentences to each other and have never interacted since

Also her faction hasnt been mentioned more so then in passing since then

[tiny pike]

-# Shh, hot elf girlfriend.

[vague gust]

Kill him

[dense isle]

Sure but. I mean.

Ya never know

The webways are everywhere

Yes even inside of Terra.

The webways are EVERYWHERE

[vague gust]

Isnt terran webway separated

Or is webway a plane and everything is just a door

[dense isle]

The webways are…. Weird.

As far as I understand it they’re essentially an extra dimensional labyrinth that is parallel to reality? Think artificial warp with less mind shenanigans.

[vague gust]

No

Ill consider them astral plane

[dense isle]

Fair enough

[vague gust]

Space between spaces

[dense isle]

But to be clear: navigating them is a nightmare. You have to KNOW KNOW where you’re going.

If you don’t you’re in for a really bad time.

Not to mention even opening a way in is its own puzzle

Hero probably could explain it better.

[vague gust]

Oh so like the astral plane

[dense isle]

….. huh yeah

And the Eldar built it with technology

So yeah it’s. Yeah it’s an Eldari constructed astral plane.

[solemn mason]

Webways are like a different Minecraft Nether ive been told

[dense isle]

Close enough yea.

Although again. Built by the Eldari. The webways were not always there. They were handcrafted.

Or made by the people who created the Eldari?

It gets messy. Blame the warp.

[vague gust]

Old ones

[dense isle]

Yeah

Those bastards.

[vague gust]

Blame the necrons actually

[dense isle]

Yea

[vague gust]

Everything is their fault

[dense isle]

Stupid war in heaven

[tiny pike]

Also, even if you know where you're going, if the Webway itself doesn't like you, you'll still get lost as fuck, because the Webway is alive.

[vague gust]

Genuinely if they didnt war in heaven alot would be better

[vague gust]

Oh so like the astral plane

[dense isle]

Oh right that too! Forgot that part!

[tiny pike]

Also, they weren't initially built by the Eldar. They were built by the Old Ones for the Eldar.