#Heresy? HERESY?! [Warhammer + 40k]

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dense isle
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he did this the entire tournament

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his opponents were

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unamused.

vague gust
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Skill issue

dense isle
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which, fair.

dense isle
vague gust
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Gonna be mad about that get mad about the custodes tactic of shield Captain on a speeder with some relic that gives him a 5 invul save and apparently like a 80 inch movement speed

dense isle
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this is the same man who brought the custodes gunship to a DIFFERENT 1k tournament.

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which ALSO rained hellfire on his opponents

dense isle
vague gust
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Play Kaldor draigo

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Win

dense isle
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I prefer to play kitten

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kitten can win at childrens card games against eldrich dieties

vague gust
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He’s fake

dense isle
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kitten is real if I believe he is!

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I have the power of orkish belief in me!

dense isle
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oh dear.

vague gust
dense isle
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well

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so much for that then.

vague gust
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Also he did die in the last TTS episode didn’t he

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Got shot by like 80 skittari and a few castellon mechs and just fell because can’t save every shot

dense isle
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uhhhh, mikushrug

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honestly dunno.

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I think kitten is doin fine

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last I checked in his armour was silver.

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cause Tzeentch is a sore loser

vague gust
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Oh your far behind Kek

dense isle
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I bounce around

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Ive never actually sat down and watched the full series

vague gust
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Fair

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It honestly only found its footing after like episode 15

dense isle
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Ive tried to a few times but then I get.... bored?

bored is the wrong word.

I become disinterested because Ive absorbed too much information and need a break

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and then I forget

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and then I restart

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and then the cycle repeats

tepid tundra
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honestly the shadowsword also had a good crew cause that bugger shot twice so fast

dense isle
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oh yeah

tepid tundra
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thats basically there major flaw they cant move while charging

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they fire and hope to god they dont get spotted

dense isle
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fire, hope to hell that you killed whatever you shot at, or you arent seen.

tepid tundra
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would be a miriacle if we ever got a battlefield/battlefront esque game

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and the map is just large enough for a titan or 2 and we get to actually pull of that scene

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but it should happen over time starting from space marine as we slowly build up proper PvP

urban flint
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Purple Orcs

ebon spruce
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i see

dense isle
fathom stump
dense isle
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be nice to kitty

fathom stump
ebon spruce
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Mhm apperantly some people was able to play demo of DoW4

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And sounds like it will be back to roots of DoW1 with mix of DoW2

tepid tundra
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yeh thats what i read on some thing

ebon spruce
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Not wanna give hopes up on DoW4. But it do look good. Probably they gonna expand with more factions via DLC's after release. But already solid from get go: SM - Orks - Nekrons and Mechanikus. Each have unique gimmics and also own campaing to play.

north hedge
# urban flint Purple Orcs

I had a friend one day in my warhammer group during a Crusade have some commandos. He did the bases all up and such, but didn’t have the models on them. He just said they were purple orks and everyone went along with it as a funny joke.

tepid tundra
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also there have been plenty of youtube people prominent ones for warhammer RTS games who played the demo and are already talking bout what they experienced

ebon spruce
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I just learn for last few years never get hopes up

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They will get crushed

tepid tundra
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im basically looking at everything i can cause im one of the people who does not care one bit bout spoilers in the slightest

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all i can say is cause if one is worried bout how a game is going to come out to this degree seriously just can your avoidance of spoilers cause at least seeing everything you can to gather as much info as possible to keep yourself informed will well inform you on whether a game is going to be good in your eyes or not

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the amount of times especially for warhammer games where people were just shocked on release day bout X thing in a game when i straight up already knew bout it cause i kept up to date on everything they showed

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people can choose to avoid spoilers thats completely understandable but ive just seen way too many times people just exploding etc over stuff devs for alot of games in general not just warhammer ones that they had been publicly showing and being open bout for a month or more before a release date

north hedge
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Ok is it just me or is there votann at the end of the mechanicus 2 trailer

prime summit
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I've heard people say there's Votann in the game, but I haven't seen a confirmation.

dense isle
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stark white, 70s space helms, runic weaponry.

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now, in what form in game?

who knows.

but in this trailer, those are the votan.

vague gust
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And something about their great machines

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So yes they are in the mechanicus 2

vague gust
vague gust
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I know

dense isle
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okie

tepid tundra
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they have shown them before in earlier trailers

ebon spruce
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because usuall helmets looks like this

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Or simply helmet less

meager shoal
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the front one has a different helmet,t he one behid him has the same as those minis

ebon spruce
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Like at max i found this

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But it's robot

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I feel they took robot head as helmet

meager shoal
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yea that looks identicle to the front one, maybe robit taking point?

ebon spruce
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Eh dunno

tepid tundra
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yeh the robots get very similar heads to the mechancius ones

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just dont have the headcovers on there domes

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but yeh we even have robot commanders

ebon spruce
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But beside this small thing in gameplay trailer...we have nothing

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So it's just wait

tepid tundra
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wait which trailer is this cause i think there was stuff earlier

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yeh there was literally one 2 months ago showcasing it

wispy pilot
meager shoal
prime summit
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That's definitely been me this summer. Though mostly I'm trying to get everything primed and ready so I can paint all winter. IIRC spray primer doesn't work too hot in the cold.

dense isle
bitter eagle
dense isle
prime summit
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We've been doing tests and warming up the can does help make for a smoother spray.

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Normally Grey Seer looks a bit textured, but ours come out really nice in comparison to most.

dense isle
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Hm.

bitter eagle
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Science go burrr and not work

tender egret
meager shoal
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urban flint
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Bringing this back

north hedge
north hedge
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I like what I see for all the stuff the imperial knights are gonna be getting my imperial knights are happy

urban flint
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Ugggh I wanna play the only Warhammer Titan game that’s ever existed

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If I can find an old Apple cord I might have it on an old IPad but even then I don’t know how to make an emulator

urban flint
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Sweet summer child

north hedge
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Otherwise, I’d say find a pirated copy

urban flint
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Oh actually I think you can still download it?

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Huh, I was sure it was dead

north hedge
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Wait, it’s not dead

urban flint
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Last update was a year ago

north hedge
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Are we thinking of the same game the game where you play as imperial Titans not the mobile game where you play in imperial knight

urban flint
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Freeblade

north hedge
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OK, so mobile one I was thinking of the PC game

urban flint
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There was a strategy game right?

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I heard it wasn’t that good

north hedge
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I know, but still fun and the main problems were just graphical issues

tepid tundra
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ok just give us a horus heresy PvP shooter game cause thats honest where it should start off at first before going into 40k

tidal temple
tepid tundra
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yeh but just start it off with the heresy era and its just marines to start things off then they bring in mechanicum and solar auxilia for the heresy then when there ready either make a new game with 40k or all of it or just add on to the current game

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just a slow build up to we finally get it all

urban flint
meager shoal
meager shoal
tepid tundra
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the average thing for fun for them is competing to hunt other aliens like humans for sport

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honestly reminds me of a certain thing in another series that i wont name

vague gust
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Trandosians

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Star Wars lizard people

tepid tundra
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that too but i was talkin bout something else

dense isle
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lil timmy is gonna learn about some CRIMES today!

deft forum
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Towards the announcement

  • they will be a skeleTon of fun!
solemn mason
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Nearly a year later, Veteran is finally getting a new weapon

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And its a melee

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No melta, no hotshot, no longlas, no nothin ranged

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Another power sword that has the same mechanics to the relic blade

dense isle
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sigh

solemn mason
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On the bright side, according to community managers on the discord, Hellbore's getting a sight rework

dense isle
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thats.... nice?

solemn mason
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Better not be the terrible irons still

tepid tundra
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if my psyker tree gets reset im fucked cause i have no idea what i did to make it and i was busted

ebon spruce
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It will Dinga

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It will

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Since it's tree change

shell wind
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You can also just look up talents if need be. The talent tree pathways were pretty limited anyway, and now the weaker options are more viable.

solemn mason
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Thr whole host o changes

chrome steppe
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psyker talent tree rework, yippee

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also, rare pixel sighting right here.

solemn mason
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This is my favorite change

shell wind
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Yah that’s, a change.

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It’s extremely troll to take though.

dense isle
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Just kill elites. Ez.

solemn mason
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Best part about the balance changes is that LONER IS DEAD

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PRAISE THE EMPRAH

dense isle
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Bloody finally

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Toxic perk that one

chrome steppe
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when I think of it, any time I use loner It barely been used unless I see a random piece of plasteel and go away from the group. I used loner wrong, and I only had it on one build for my zealot

dense isle
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love it

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but also

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tournament banned: modeling for advantage

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cause guess how you draw LoS in games workshop land.

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if you guessed: taking the actual line of sight from the MODELS HEAD. you'd be correct. because GW are drunk on power.

chrome steppe
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The funniest of things

ebon spruce
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Have tried melee psyker on current patch Darktide. Is gut.

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Issue: Uh teammates is dying around and being left alone

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Mostly funny: People getting WIPED by new scab plasma trooper

shell wind
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They count as a gunner elite iirc, so now the gunner curio perk is even more MANDATORY for high level runs…

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Cus it 100% was definitely not already…

ebon spruce
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always have 2

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3 is a bit overkill

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And give much less

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And heck THEY tanky

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Most fifly thing they also tanky.

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Quite armored - Uh around 3k hp at auric

ebon spruce
solemn mason
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And then spawn them in groups of 4+ AAAAND GIVE THEM CARAPACE HEADS LIKE MAULERS

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Well designed enemy, i see no flaws

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10/10 no notes

ebon spruce
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Like 90% of loses today

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I was last man standing

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And most common enemy everyone died: Plasma

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Magic

solemn mason
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Also you see in the patch notes they buffed crushers health nearly double? But "slightly" lowered their spawn rates?

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I call bullshit

ebon spruce
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Ye. THey fatty

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Take's a while now to go true they hp pool

shell wind
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Yah I think they overdid it for them. Because bringing something that could pen carapace wasn’t important already…

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Now we have another enemy with carapace and the previously armored enemies have way more hp.

ebon spruce
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They need nerf them not COME in packs

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1 is enough danger already can be with horde

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3? overkill

ebon spruce
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Man just tried Thunder hammer zealot this patch of Darktide. Feeling good

dense isle
tepid tundra
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they are there worst enemy

ebon spruce
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Like after playing this DT patch for a while.

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Plasma Scabs is VT2 Beastkin all over again

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Balance? Fair?

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Out the window.

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You have 3 aim at you? And no cover? Good luck dodge em with they not sync(And they will be not)

dense isle
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question: does the corpse of my Ogryn ally count as cover?

ebon spruce
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Well even ogryn in shield stance cant save you

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Soooo

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Nope

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Wanderhah And they can even splash true psyker shield

dense isle
ebon spruce
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It's really Winds of Magic all over again

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But as SINGLE unit

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Beast people was overtuned at release

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It's was zero fun to play vs em

solemn mason
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still is but yeah

shell wind
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Honestly I haven’t had an issue with them.

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I’ve only ever been downed by them once, and it was because I was focused on the chaos spawn harassing me.

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Their damage is brutal, but when you know they’re there play corners and force them into melee.

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Works wonders for me, but I have noticed that I’ve had to clutch every single run since these guys dropped.

ebon spruce
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In same boat

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People drops like fly

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Had to cluch some how

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While on top sword captain

ebon spruce
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Open maps with em is hella death vally

tall rivet
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Space king

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Lets goo

north hedge
chrome steppe
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This is the funniest think I have seen with drukari players

solemn mason
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Lasma gunners got nerfed

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Y'know what that typo is cool im keeping it

dense isle
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lasma feels like the lead in to some kind of "nuts" or "balls" joke

solemn mason
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No, i do not want to lasma balls

ebon spruce
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Well lasmers are more bearable now

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Played few matches

tepid tundra
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why are we saying lasma

solemn mason
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i was originally gonna edit the message i posted but Lasma sounded cool

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cuz Plasma gunners in Darktide got nerfed

shell wind
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Honestly?

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Skill diff.

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I know they were crazy strong compared to the other gunners, but I do genuinely think that's just because they're not affected by the curio blessing.

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Cutting their damage down by 60% would make them such a lower priority.

tepid tundra
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its almost like plasma weapons are horrificly lethal

solemn mason
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Oh, and also they splashed through psyker bubbles/walls and couldn't be blocked with either ogryn/arby shields (fair, bulwarks cant block our plasma) but also Deflector blessing from psyker (why, its warp bull)

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By every account it was not a balanced enemy or event in the slightest

chrome steppe
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I just want to play with the new bolt weapon variants but the armory keeps saying nah, og bolt weapons for you

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darktide moment

rotund moon
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classic

ebon spruce
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....

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You know you can switch any in other marks?

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Mark hunting was removed with mastery update

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While inspecting here's button

chrome steppe
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Thank you for telling me

ebon spruce
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I did guess you havent played for a while

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Since uh mastery update been out for 1.5 year already? I think

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ebon spruce
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Ah okay them.

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Since it's pretty much not tutorialized

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It can be missed

shell wind
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"Patch notes"

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Gatta love um.

ebon spruce
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Slick do you think person who started around mortis trials gonna looks at older patchnotes?

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Like i'm almost never look at old patchnotes of game i just got

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Mortis and mastery was maybe half year apart

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Need look in to what. Because i'm not fully sure about dates

solemn mason
dense isle
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THEY YAMCHAED MAGNUS!

vague gust
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Deserved

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It was his fault

dense isle
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Magnus did nothing wrong

north hedge
solemn mason
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urban flint
rotund moon
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CW: NSFW mentions

prime summit
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Hell yeah Tau

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Disregard horny. Acquire big robots.

hexed shuttle
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Weird how the chaos got homies sterotype

But I also love admech so embrace max goof

vital notch
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ngl, something real funny about a notable percentage of grey knights being helluva boss fans

bitter eagle
hexed shuttle
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Yeeeah

vital notch
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adhd fits ec at least

dense isle
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But yeah those stats are real funny.

dense isle
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Hell yes

dense isle
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GW recent xmas box anouncement and. like.

they've nicknamed this one "crusher stampede"

as someone who's run that in battle this is not at all what you would run in crusher stampede. this is Timmies monster mash of "all the crap GW couldnt sell this year"

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because malceptors arent that great, screamer killers arent that great, haruspex's arent that great, the big lug in the back left aint that great, and the neurothrope aint that great.

they have niche use in specific lists but on their own or even in this comp its just.

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like.

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bad.

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this is what the spacies are getting

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TWO Dreads, a plasma squad, and a buncha generic spacies

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thats like

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a proper anvil to be hammered into.

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(in refrence to the anvil and hammer strategies within warfare)

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solemn mason
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they seriously gave the tyrinid side 1 of each big/bigger boy, and the spacies an entire small army?

dense isle
# solemn mason they seriously gave the tyrinid side 1 of each big/bigger boy, and the spacies a...

yeup.

to be clear: its a perfectly fine army expansion for those already in the hobby. the thing is Tyranids are the big bads this edition, and xmas boxes are a large way people get into the game. an Xmas box for the faction that is the current big bads should probably not be the "oh hell what do we put in a box?!" mix.

its a good mix of firepower and support monsters, all with roles that you would want to some excent.

but all 5 mishmashed together would be a horrific starting point for a new player.

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but if you're expanding your already existant tyranid army, its a wonderful box.

chrome steppe
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Or well, Dark mechanicum unit for the black legion faction

dense isle
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dense isle
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entirely fair.

chrome steppe
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Only books and games

dense isle
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thats the financially responsible way to do it

chrome steppe
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I did not do that however

dense isle
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okay that is true

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there are so many HH books

chrome steppe
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You have single off books like Brutal kunnin, you have trilogy books like the night lords. And then you have the hole in your wallet known as the HH books

dense isle
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theres also the smaller but still titanic hole in your pocket known as the Ciaphas Cain books. in which the man has I wanna say some 4 odd "omnibus" style compliations.

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dense isle
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yes

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although remembering he has crippling imposter syndrome and self hatread

vague gust
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But he’s also dating a inquisitor

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Which if I remember correctly massively boosted his mental health and also tanked it because she’s a inquisitor

dense isle
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dated*

he's technically dead

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ish

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okay look he died of old age but he's come back from "death" on SO MANY occations the imperium REFUSES to mark him as actually being dead in the system.

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also yes

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he died of OLD AGE, in WARHAMMER

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dense isle
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and this is not just random schmucks on the internet, these are TRUSTED random people on the internet.

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and in person

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dense isle
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yeup

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he also lived for centuries because of age treatments. his inquisitor girlfriend pulled the strings she could. they both had long and storied lives with each other.

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I highly reccomend reading some of his books.

tepid tundra
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aint his last stories him in a school teaching commissars

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then he kinda got pulled back into combat during school

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then back to school

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hell his even recorded as still alive despite actually being in the ground now

solemn mason
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On todays patch notes of darktide:

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They FINALLY acknowledged the crap servers

ebon spruce
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Very relaxing indeed

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Unlike havoc climb

meager shoal
dense isle
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Rylanor storms out from the warp as a LotD Dread

dense isle
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But of course.

urban flint
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Lesbians feel like sisters to me, only I’m allowed to make fun of them

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I might throw rocks but we’re in this glass house together

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That said, girl you need help

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The mostly naked body pillow and raunchy fanfic is insane

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You made the servoskull blush, what the hell did you write that can do that?

dense isle
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I mean.

Shes an inquisitor.

Theres no crazy like repressed crazy.

dense isle
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woe be upon you, melta bomb

chrome steppe
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That chaos marine damn screwed up

north hedge
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Just ask is bringing a voidraven bomber to 1000 points game overkill or no

dense isle
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aircraft in general in 1K games can be uhhh.

interesting.

I dunno do it. ittle be fine.

dense isle
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Hadron I swear to the emperor himself give me just five minutes to LIVE through this before we start figuring out if I did or did not force the USB in the wrong way.

tiny pike
dense isle
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"If you keep yapping I can make it a certainty that I damaged it rather than a maybe."

meager shoal
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force it in harder? ok hammer time

tall rivet
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dense isle
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uhhhhh

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wait

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what day is it? month? solar alignment? have you prayed to the emperor recently?

specifically how many scales are showing?

tiny pike
dense isle
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mmmmmm

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alright I THINK they're loyalist right now.

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70/30 really

tiny pike
rotund moon
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slaanesh song

dense isle
rotund moon
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oh gurm didya see the salamanders one

dense isle
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I saw it existed. Not listened.

rotund moon
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listen, is gud

bitter eagle
north hedge
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OK, just ask would trench Crusade theme bases for chaos dwarves be too out of place or no?

dense isle
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heeeeeeeeeh

tiny pike
dense isle
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well now hold on

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the Big E is capable of all kinds of growth.

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over time he's become a worse and worse parrental figure.

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nobody said it was positive.

fathom stump
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Artist: Circe ~captainzepto

meager shoal
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is the skaven a traitor if he always intended to stab in in the back?

fathom stump
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he called himself one, so I'm not going to argue the point

prime summit
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Trick question: Skaven are by default traitors.

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The only reason why they haven't "won" is because they keep backstabbing eachother, constantly.

dense isle
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And thus why the vermintide is so horrifying.

Every Skaven clan united under one banner. One goal. No backs stabbed.

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Same reason why orks haven’t “won” in 40K.

Although.

Well okay an eternal war between nidds and orks with each side scaling with the other across an entire galaxy would be awesome but at that point I’d say both sides “won”

meager shoal
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no winners, just everyone else loses :p

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darktide class comin

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wondering if it's ad mech or eldar

dense isle
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I'd personally bet, another adhuman.

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probably a ratboy. aka discount hobbit.

ebon spruce
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Probably. Astartes is fully out of option being added in DT

dense isle
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yeah. admech is.... unlikely.

and any xenos are right out.

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although

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I mean I could see us getting a servator as a class

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note servators are not the servo skulls we see around.

they're horrifying abominations. people trapped within their own minds forced to work. turning a human brain into a computer to work a machine and nothing else.

ebon spruce
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Eh what about Skitarii? Unlikey but a chance

dense isle
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oh right the Skitarii exist!

ebon spruce
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Like been send to assist Hadron or something like what

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They go both melee and ranged so it fist in DT

dense isle
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look I can only remember so many of the marsy boys at a single time.

ebon spruce
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And it be cool if they had different look depens on what talents you did choise

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Since they outfitted with augments depens where they fight

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any other xenos... no

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from what I've seen there is no other xenos faction that is near the mobian domain

dense isle
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ehhhhh. I guess.

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I dunno

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I just

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it would clash too hard with the hummies v nurgle athstetic we've got going on for me.

chrome steppe
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yea

dense isle
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we might get an ashlander from necromunda. even though lore wise that makes zero sense

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but who cares about the lore! ashlander! woo!

solemn mason
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my bets are on 3 for new class

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new abhuman (Kroots? goats?) Skitarii, or some assassinorum

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honorable mention to an aeldar since we are in an inquisitors warband

dense isle
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The trailer had a mention of rations going missing

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That’s almost certainly a ratling.

solemn mason
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finally, Bardin Gorikson Darktide

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# solemn mason new abhuman (Kroots? goats?) Skitarii, or some assassinorum

Having someone from the assassinorum feels like too much resources. Plus it would be hard to get into the domain according to rannick so they probably wouldn't get here in time like with the Armageddon steel legion Morrow tried to get in touch with which sparked rannick saying the thing from earlier

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I am a stickler for the lore Wanderp

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So many dialog in the Morningstar, very hard to hear them all

solemn mason
tepid tundra
tall rivet
meager shoal
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hmm can cheese be corrupted by chaos?

tiny pike
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Yes. You've heard of the maggot cheese from that one Italian Island, yeah? That's 1000% a Warp-corrupted cheese.

meager shoal
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exterminatus?

tiny pike
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Only for the one italian island that makes maggot cheese.

meager shoal
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we can focus the orbital cannon im told

rotund moon
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rotund moon
rotund moon
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yo, a friend gifted me the Darktide Arbites DLC for freebies

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nice

dense isle
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nice

rotund moon
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papa nurgle blessed me today

tiny pike
rotund moon
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NO

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BEGONE WITH YE, BLASPHEMER

tiny pike
astral coyote
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Oh wait

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nvm

meager shoal
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are you related to nurgle murgle? :p

wispy pilot
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thats his evil twin :v

astral coyote
tiny pike
rotund moon
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a classic

tepid tundra
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if anything it would be 42 or 44000 years have past

dense isle
dense isle
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neat

rotund moon
dense isle
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glorious

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absolutely

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glorious

dense isle
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cute

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also heretical

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but cute

tiny pike
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Big E said “F xenos”.

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tepid tundra
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we got poxigors in age of sigmar!

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also refreshed terminator models for the horus heresy

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i would say the armor type but its hard to spell and i too distracted

tall rivet
ebon spruce
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Dang.

tall rivet
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Yeah

ebon spruce
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Titus sure good look aged a bit

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Assume it's gonna be his canon future....so seems he all good after SM2

dense isle
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did we expect him to not have?

dense isle
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did you never see the ending to that game?

ebon spruce
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I know ending

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I have completed the game

dense isle
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alright cool just wanted to double check

ebon spruce
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Good he back to be captain....if revember originally he was cap in SM1 yah?

dense isle
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yeah

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finally back to where he was.

ebon spruce
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Just took some time.....and maybe beat some one who was sussy always

dense isle
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after..... what was it? 100 or so years in the black legion?

ebon spruce
#

And i think in minis....is his comrades from SM2?

dense isle
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the minis are a mix of his SM2 pals and other hangerons.

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oh, no hes not a captain Andrei.

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hes a Master of the Watch

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thats

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thats more than just where he was

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thats a titanic promotion

ebon spruce
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Eh my hearing a bit bad

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Anyway his mini looks cool

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Deserved after what happened to him.

dense isle
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yea

ebon spruce
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Got so high

dense isle
#

astounding that he survived the process of becoming primaris but then again, no named character has ever failed it so.......

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cowards

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anywho, the new books look fun

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cant tell if its a crusade or a generic narative format

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it sounds crusade adjacent?

ebon spruce
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Uh need to reinstall SM2 and try out all new PvE Maps they did dropped

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I pretty much just done campaing and a bit pve at launch

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Ah reminds me...

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DT will announce new class in 3 days

tall rivet
tepid tundra
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oh right and feetus finally a daemon prince

chrome steppe
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what if the next class in darktide is just a random abhuman that has no art gw just threw at fatshark and told them to "put this in game"

solemn mason
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Ogryns didn't have a tabletop model so wouldn't be the first time

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if they're gonna add another abhuman my bets on Ratlings

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?

chrome steppe
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And the more I look at ratling, it would just be smaller vet

dense isle
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Im still betting on rattling

solemn mason
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Fatshark charm back at it again

chrome steppe
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what I want
is lexmechanics

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where it is confirmed that all of the missing lexmechanics in tertium were just hiding in a comedically large toaster in an interzone void

tiny pike
dense isle
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o

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ono

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uhhhhh

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22 technically

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bang

tiny pike
solemn mason
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19, i fear not the boltor

rotund moon
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What's the actual answer I thought there were 20

tiny pike
# rotund moon What's the actual answer I thought there were 20

I depends on the exact definition you use.
If you limit it to Loyalists: 9.
If you limit it to ones that we've gotten actual names for, a different amount.
If you include the ones we know exist (but haven't gotten names or lore (beyond "these guys exist" because they want to have "blank slate" Primarchs for people to homebrew legion ideas)), another different amount.

dense isle
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so

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when I said 22 I meant 21 earlier

tiny pike
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And yeah, if you include Omegon as separate to Alpharius, there's actually 21.

dense isle
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yeah

rotund moon
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wait, we dont even have names for every primarch?

tiny pike
#

So basically, a mess of answers depending on definitions used.

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Nope. There's 2 "lost" ones that never got official names because they wanted "blank slate" Primarchs for people to use for homebrewing.

dense isle
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literally encouraging fanfiction and such

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they're "lost" because as hero said, they basically arent real.

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their factions will never be known, they will never be written about or mentioned, they merely exist as a slot to do OCs in

rotund moon
#

huh

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wacky

dense isle
#

very much so, but its how it is

tiny pike
#

But yeah, the amount can be, depending on definitions chosen:
9, if limiting to named Loyalists.
18 if limiting to named Primarchs, loyalist or traitor.
19 if limited to named Primarchs, loyalist or traitor, and treating Omegon as separate from Alpharius.
20 if including the "lost" Primarchs but not treating Omegon as separate.
21 if including the "lost" Primarchs and treating Omegon as separate.

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All but 9 and 18 are likely to get you shot by the bolter.
18 is still likely to get you shot by the bolter because you're acknowledging that the Traitor Primarchs exist.

dense isle
#

and to be clear the reason you can count omegon and alpherius as the same person or not is because they are and arent.

their name is Alpherius Omegon.

not ALpherius and Omegon, not Omegon and Alpherius.

Alpherius Omegon is their name. because they are and arent the same person.

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its weird

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its part of the whole "nobody really knows whats going on with Alpha Legion" schtick

tiny pike
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Even the out-of-character lore (the stuff that the reader is privy to but not the characters in the stories) is spotty on if they're separate or one body.

dense isle
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and Alpherius is... "dead"

but also.... not.

some dude who claimed to be Alpherius did die 'on camera' in a book, except that well. uhhhh. dudes who claim to be Alpherius keep popping up, and his legion certainly hasn't felt his absence.

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its one of those things where at any point GW could bring him back if they wanted to.

tiny pike
dense isle
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indeed

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the legions without hteir primarch show it

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or typically do

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depends on the writer

tiny pike
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Alpha Legion has very consistently shown not to show the standard results of a dead Primarch, though, regardless of writer.

dense isle
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but overall the loss of a primarch is often marked in certain attitudes towards that primarch and immortalizing the past.

when the primarch is alive, well, the spacies actually continue to function without writing fanfiction about their !=dad

dense isle
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if half of a legions primarch was dead, my personal take is that we'd notice.

tiny pike
#

But yeah, 9 is the safest answer to how many Primarchs there are, if asked with a Bolter pointed at your head, and 18 the second safest.

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While 20 or 21 is the "canon" answer.

dense isle
#

yeah

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unless of course

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its a chaos bolter

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or its alpha legion

tiny pike
# dense isle its a chaos bolter

Yeah, in which case it's 18 is the safest and 9 the second safest (because they'll assume you're referring to the Loyalist Legions with 9, rather than the Traitor Legions, just like how a Loyalist Spacie will assume you're referring to the Loyalist Legions with an answer of 9 rather than to the Traitor Legions, but both will understand you as referring to both groups with 18).

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oh boy, we are talking about primarchs and the twilight zone episode of Alpherious Omegon

dense isle
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something akin to that pretty much

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Para over there pulled the pin on a lore hand grenade and well

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here we are

rotund moon
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oopsie

chrome steppe
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It is, by all purposes, the biggest paradox in warhammer

dense isle
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Alpha legion is gonna be alpha legion.

no matter whos writing. no matter whats said.

tiny pike
dense isle
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we need to give those idiots more months of shame at the minimum

tiny pike
dense isle
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"you idiots wrote that I said WHAT?!" -if TTS was still going

chrome steppe
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I miss tts

dense isle
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at least we have hunter the parrenting these days

vague gust
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its great

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honestly liking it more then tts

dense isle
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oh its awesome

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although the most recent episode.

I.

the feels man. (no theres not a new one Im reminicing)

vague gust
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Fattigue deserved it Wanderp

dense isle
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youre a monster

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and not what I meant

vague gust
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that was the most recent one though :P

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technically

dense isle
#

I meant ||Marchus getting kidnapped was really emotional for me and Im worried about the lil guy.||

vague gust
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Oh that Kek

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He’s fine

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||Nothing ever bad has happened to people that got sucked into the umbra in WOD||

dense isle
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||yeahhhh. course not.||

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||god the werewolf reveal was. that was so intense. it was awesome.||

chrome steppe
rotund moon
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tts makers' new series after GW got very litigious about 40k fan works.

Its based on the World of Darkness setting i think?

chrome steppe
rotund moon
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no idea

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I havent actually watched it or TTS

chrome steppe
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I get the impression on what if Big E was in world of darkness and was a less shitty father

dense isle
# chrome steppe what is this? a world where Big E was a good father?

World of Darkness story by the writers of TTS.

You'll hear some familiar voices and see some familiar faces but the long and short is that it is very much their own thing. their own world, their own ideas, no longer just riffing off of what 40K had.

and yes I know World of Darkness is another property but its a TTRPG, very different from the stuffy realm of canonical events and occurrences.

its weird as hell and absolutely wonderful.

dense isle
ebon spruce
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oh lol announce of DT class was delayed to octo 18

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But at same time they did announce it wil released at Dec 2

chrome steppe
ebon spruce
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Probably again paid

chrome steppe
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One can hope

tepid tundra
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well i gotta say now we know the final fate of Acheran and Chairon you know the guys we see in space marine 2

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and well there both dead now

chrome steppe
tepid tundra
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genestealer cult swarm

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they held there ground against a cult to stop it spreading

ebon spruce
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They did pretty much activated isolation from inside and got trapped with entire gene cult

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Price for let not spread genestealers

rotund moon
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This is it, apparently. This is them dying

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"they're video game characters? Well that's easy canon fodder to kill off screen"

tepid tundra
#

yeh we talked bout this earlier

shell wind
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Oh damnit. I missed the postponement of the class reveal for darktide. It's the 18th.

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Rip.

ebon spruce
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But at same time they did say it be released at dec 2

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We just gonna be for 1 more week blind what da hell they gonna add

shell wind
#

I've seen some of the conversation in here about what it would be. I do think they're missing out if they don't go with ratling or another abhuman.

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Minus the argument of making a new model and animation skeleton*.

ebon spruce
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Will see really

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With current models it's hard to know who gonna be added

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Like....what chance what umh sister of battle will be added? They not astartes

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Eh guessing on coffie mug really

dense isle
ebon spruce
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Yah

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Okay what really class vise we missing as just normal humans?

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Vet goes as pretty much guards-commisar sorta deal

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EVeryone else is what they are

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Mayble really a something mechanis related? Model exist but eh rigging probably not

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Bueh really hard to think what we gonna get

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My best bet still skitarii...humanish model with just well augments and stuff strapped on

shell wind
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It's gatta be an abhuman or skitarii.

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Maybe*, just maybe, they could justify an imperial assassin?

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But they're like, WAY too op.

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Same boat as sisters are in this context.

ebon spruce
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With Fatshark said new class will not have new model - rig. Abhumans are pretty much 0 chance

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Unless they just shrink human model to ratling or something. BUt it will be just smol vet

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Oh really for heck of it. Admech. Like other WH games aka SM2 and also Mechanikus 2 release at some point. SM2 Getting Tech-marine class at some point. Reason? Same release of arbi in DT and Rogue Trader. So what's stops to do same thing again.

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So it's a chance really

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Yah Q1 next year SM2. I sure did revember what but dint revember time frame

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I gave my take. So gonna end for now

dense isle
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Best of the best, given hyper drugs and enhancements and sealed away until they’re given a target.

chrome steppe
dense isle
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Snrk.

rotund moon
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I want a game where I can play as a calidus assassin for no particular reason

dense isle
#

honestly that would be great.

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maybe one of the boltgun games

tiny pike
dense isle
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GabeCube Kant mizz.

tepid tundra
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honestly if they started giving grots better guns they would be a menace

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they have the better aim

frosty quail
meager shoal
dense isle
#

Guiliman. That’s. That’s not reasonable.

Or it wouldn’t be if GW didn’t give the blueberries infinite plot armour except the ones they kill offscreen.

tepid tundra
#

i think he at least has the resources directly from ultramar too

meager shoal
#

1 spacie can take 5 planets solo easy :p

tepid tundra
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i mean one did

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granted it was a chaos marine too

ebon spruce
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I think this meme is fitting here

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Last one did crack me up

dense isle
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The beakie from bolt gun. Yea.

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Where’s that one comic

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Hmmm

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found it

urban flint
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I can’t remember his name for the life of me

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A C and an M?

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Or is it the other way around?

meager shoal
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Malum Caedo according to wiki

urban flint
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I feel like Trayzn, I wanna yoink him

dense isle
#

Reasonable

urban flint
fathom stump
north hedge
rotund moon
#

A rogue trader would wear this right

tiny pike
solemn mason
#

Darktide's new class Hive Scum is coming to Darktide December 2, 2025!

Wishlist now
https://fatshark.games/qHen6G

The Hive Scum comes screaming from the depths of the hive, leaving destruction and mayhem as they decimate their enemies with dual-wielding pistols & explosives from afar.

Up close they are equally lethal, fighting dirty and ...

▶ Play video
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We had a week delay for a crowbar & some dualies

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Wow

shell wind
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HMMM

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We in agreement, mid?

dense isle
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yeah

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honestly kinda disapointed

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I expected better

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was way too hyped up for what it ended up being

shell wind
#

The axe/machete there looks cool at least?

tepid tundra
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huh i was vaguely right from ages ago

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so will they give us a new slot to make the character or will we be forced to delete a character

dense isle
astral ivy
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for a second i thought it was a helldiver cape

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but i saw the channel and it hit me '"yeah we'll never get capes this cool ever"

chrome steppe
solemn mason
#

THey couldve done a skitarii, or a sororitas, or something inquisito related or a xeno-something

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But instead we got

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A gangster

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and we're probably not even gonna get anything cool like

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Blunderpoles

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Blunderpoles in question

tepid tundra
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isnt that also a gangster

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why am i even asking it is a gangster

chrome steppe
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hmmm... can we dual wield crowbars tho? I am expecting someone to make a gordon freeman character as a hive scum character

urban flint
#

“Belongs in a museum” who do you think you’re fooling?

rotund moon
#

it IS in a museum, just not the British Imperial one

urban flint
#

You mean a storeroom no one ever goes in

rotund moon
#

Trazyn goes in there

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and Trazyn is all that matters

urban flint
#

Trayzn goes in Blood Raven storerooms?

dense isle
#

theres a comic of Trazyn getting kidnapped into the british museum

urban flint
#

As he deserves

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Should’ve ground him down and ate him

tiny pike
urban flint
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That’s not what I was saying

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I meant that Blood Raven Storerooms are validated by the fact that Trayzn goes in them?

tiny pike
#

Also yes.

rotund moon
solemn mason
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God i've actually missed vermintide

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Good game ahead

rotund moon
#

Gee it's almost like fatshark gave teasers and zero clues to get us hyped and speculating

tepid tundra
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its the whole reason i give no crap bout that it wasnt a tech priest

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hell i knew it wasnt tech priest cause there was already a tech priest around that your in active communications with and if anything it would of been a enginseer cause yes they are different and even then i wasnt expecting anything

rotund moon
#

but, also... "gangster thug" is so boring as a concept

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So many interesting units exist in 40k lore, apparently there's even a TTRPG with darktide integration that has possibly dozens of them, some more plausible for the game than others... and you chose... gang thug.

tepid tundra
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i mean to be honest escher and the big guys in necromunda are pretty cool looking

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the deluxe skin you get with it is very in line with that major mercenary gangster character from necromunda too

solemn mason
#

Veteran so good, they gave us Veteran 2

dense isle
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Veteran the second, kinda stinky and not really what anyone asked for.

solemn mason
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Now with DRUGS!

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And apparently, free regenerating medkits because screw balance i guess

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Had to double check.

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Half true

ebon spruce
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I dont think they will give you to get med stim effect

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Just maybe 10% maybe hp recovery max but with huge CD

solemn mason
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Im just having SotT flashbacks

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Wouldnt surprise me if they make it busted

ebon spruce
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Yep figured Zola gonna be one who got em on board sorta

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Oh boi cant wait to hear how arbi gonna go talk with em

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But mostly Ogryn

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Ogryn always find da way to be ogryn

solemn mason
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Ogryn nickname guesses, go

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Stimmy

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Stinky

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Scrappy doo

tepid tundra
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oh yeh there going very escher with that character then

dense isle
tepid tundra
#

honestly could just look through necromunda and see what ogyrns call the gangers cause the lady is very escher without the extreme colorfulness

tidal temple
tiny pike
#

Yesterday in nerdtalk.

tidal temple
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Whoops

solemn mason
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Does belong here tho so

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Yea

north hedge
#

Just ask what would be the best colour for hellsmiths of hashut if they had a silver trim

rotund moon
#

just watched a video about "40k isnt THAT op actually" in versus context, and uh... Xeelee Sequence sure is a Thing™

tepid tundra
#

people always fail to understand that 40k is literally the sci fi dark ages

rotund moon
#

Yes

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Is gud channel

tiny pike
#

Is very gud indeed.

dense isle
#

There’s many universes that would absolutely destroy them

tiny pike
dense isle
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Oh?

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It can beat the tyranids?

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The universe spanning infinitely evolving horrors?

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Cause that’s 40k’s typical “I’ve already won” button

tiny pike
#

17:18

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Watch from that timestamp.

dense isle
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I am

#

Yeah. So. As I said.

40K has scale, and a middle finger to the square cubed law.

A good handful of these universes he talks about I’d be more than happy to debate that the tyranids eventually just win anyways. But. Not this one…. Not… not this one.

tiny pike
dense isle
#

Essentially anything but deadspace was a win for the nidds….

And then there’s the Xeelee.

dense isle
tiny pike
#

The nids can’t beat what they can’t eat. They can eat Necromorphs, they can’t eat the Xeelee Sequence.

dense isle
#

I mean. They could eat most of humanity. But. Then there’s everything else.

tiny pike
#

No, they literally can’t eat the Xeelee. There’s nothing to eat.

dense isle
#

As I said. They can eat humanity.

I SPECIFICALLY STATED HUMANITY.

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The rats playing in the sandbox

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The vermin expanding beyond their means

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Tzeentch would love the xeelee.

tiny pike
#

The Xeelee transcend physicality in all ways. So the nids would hit a hardstop after finishing off humanity.

dense isle
#

Yup

tiny pike
dense isle
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Yeah they don’t like birds

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No idea why.

tiny pike
dense isle
#

The birds destroyed the universe even WHEN fought

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Anyways I have a new awesome scifi setting to throw at people

tiny pike
dense isle
#

But yeah. 40K is small. It has its wins, it’s big shiny buttons. But at the end of the day it’s not a universe about winning. It’s a universe that already lost to itself.

#

Other settings care not for such a setback and dream bigger.

tiny pike
dense isle
#

Of course tyranids slap down most of these settings back to the Stone Age because again: near infinite universe spanning bio plague of endless evolution.

But there are some that could “win”

dense isle
# tiny pike https://youtu.be/7-ToXrqFa5I

Watched more of the video and besides the Xeelee and a few other minor concessions I think he places too much weight on the other universes lore, not accounting for differences in how 40K works.

The dude says the doomslayer would win in 40K.

He wouldn’t. Khorne would trap him on a war planet and turn him into the greatest battery of energy he could possibly have ever found.

Yes I get that the whole point is that “40K isn’t an auto win” but…. A lot of the arguments are just…. Wrong?

Simone is basically a chaos god, but that doesn’t mean he’s “won”, it just means he’s another near unstoppable force among the 5-6 other unstoppable psionic entities that already exist. Unless he ya know, spirals himself further which he could, but I feel like he’d just be another denizen of the warp.

The Xeelee are a really cool point though. Otherwise…. Ehhh?

#

Yes I’m putting way too much time and energy into this but it bugs me and so I’m grumbling about it.

solemn mason
#

i still standby that the Tenno win against 40K

#

idk if its mentioned in that vid but warframes are so broken compared to most things

dense isle
#

The Tenno are basically psychers.

Do you know what tyranids and blanks do to psychers?

#

The Tenno would have a great time until they met either.

#

At which point they’re in for a very. Very. Bad time.

urban flint
#

Are they though?

dense isle
#

The Tenno tap into the power of the void, which is essentially a vast unconsciousness of power that bends reality.

#

That’s

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That’s basically the warp

#

Like. Duviri? That’s classic warp stuff.

tiny pike
dense isle
#

I’m saying the void IS the warp

tiny pike
#

It's not, though.
The Void is the Void, and the Warp is the Warp.

dense isle
#

……

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They function under essentially the same principles

tiny pike
#

Essentially the same, yes.
But not exactly the same.

dense isle
#

Bah humbug

#

Fine

#

The Tenno are all slaughtered by the golden boys

#

Are you happy now?

tiny pike
#

Yes.

dense isle
#

Rad.

tiny pike
#

Because that one's true regardless of if the Mental Bond hitches onto the Warp as a replacement for the Void.

dense isle
#

Fair enough

solemn mason
dense isle
#

…….

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You really underestimate how fast the golden lads are

#

Dontcha

#

While not as fast as the Khan, they can give lore accurate redline Gauss a run for his money.

Each and every one of them.

And this is on top of all their obscene gear.

#

A warframe begins to cast and gets obliterated on the atomic level by a power blade.

tiny pike
dense isle
#

Also that

#

Like. If saryn has prep time? Yeah sure

#

Nurgle actually probably already kidnapped her to his garden though

tiny pike
#

But said prep time comes with Golden Boys getting forewarning and thus also preptime.

dense isle
#

Yeah

#

And they’ve got future sight psychers

#

Also again, within said prep time Saryn probably gets kidnapped by nurgle

#

And turned into a tree

tiny pike
#

Or put into a Jar, like what happened with Isha.

dense isle
#

Also a possibility

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Dante…. Dante would probably chill with Tzeentch? I think they’d just be buds.

tiny pike
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Tzeentch would explode the instant of being exposed to Dante, and Dante would usurp the role of Tzeentch.

dense isle
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And thereby Tzeentch and Dante would be buds

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Communitive property and all that.

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Word hard spell

tiny pike
dense isle
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I’m thinking Oblivion becoming sheogorath type thing.

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In which you are sheo, but sheo is still a distinct concept you will become.

tiny pike
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But also is still Madness, becuase you will become Sheo as the Madness eventually overtakes you.

dense isle
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Yeah

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Oroborosing situation.

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40K is weird.

solemn mason
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Not to mention most frames do not even need a line of sight, they could be 4 rooms over

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And lets not forget the lil void child who can pop out to kill 3 dudes to undo one of those deaths

dense isle
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shield gate is a game mechanic.

revives are a game mechanic.

we're ignoring game mechanics.

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last grasp is also a game mechanic.

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do note this does mean you get lore accurate atlas

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who can shatter moons

solemn mason
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Now that is just disingenuous

dense isle
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do you really want to roll dice to be able to hit the golden boys, then roll dice to be able to attempt to damage the golden boys, then they get to roll dice to ignore said damage, and if the damage gets thorugh they get to roll again to try and prevent that damage?

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cause we can do dice rolling if you want

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I just dont think you wanna bring in dice rolling.

solemn mason
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Book/codex accurate custodes is as overpowered as the writers want

dense isle
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custodes lose to tyranids

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but just to be clear. the grounds the original video was about, is "lore accurate" versions of all the characters.

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in their dumbest states

solemn mason
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Everything except necrons lose to tyranny

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Tyranids

dense isle
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orks dont lose

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orks only win more.

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look you want really really ludicrous lore?

Xeelee are absolutely terrifying.

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they turn the entire 40k universe into paste on accident

tiny pike
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also possible

dense isle
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while you are correct, it should be noted that in the video that comment was refering to, halo was not one of the series mentioned.

tepid tundra
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also the tenno are kinda stuck in one system and without system to system travel i can definitely see them as a rogue element that the custodes and imperium would be constantly trying to track down and deal but never be able to properly deal with fully

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directly in the sol system

urban flint
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The Unification mod for Dawn of War has updated to the Definitive Edition

dense isle
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Neato

urban flint
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You can play as the Krieg

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Or anyone you can think of

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rotund moon
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oh baby, thats a gun

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they legit just have dual wield m1911s as a gun

chrome steppe
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Yes, and it's amazing

rotund moon
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Just wrapped up a match where some random complained about me pinging enemies too much.

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When I said GG at the end he just wrote "No"

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what a weird hill to die on

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Been playing since beta, never had that before

tepid tundra
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i would just reply again with Yes

rotund moon
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EDF with the numbers of the imperial guard would solve warhammer

wispy pilot
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any warhammer nerds who are interrested in ''Total War: WARHAMMER III'' for free ? its EU locked which is why the person who won it handed it back to me

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and im trying to get it off my hands