#Heresy? HERESY?! [Warhammer + 40k]
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Skill issue
which, fair.
also fair
Gonna be mad about that get mad about the custodes tactic of shield Captain on a speeder with some relic that gives him a 5 invul save and apparently like a 80 inch movement speed
this is the same man who brought the custodes gunship to a DIFFERENT 1k tournament.
which ALSO rained hellfire on his opponents
thtas not been a thing for a while I thinkses
I prefer to play kitten
kitten can win at childrens card games against eldrich dieties
oh dear.

Also he did die in the last TTS episode didn’t he
Got shot by like 80 skittari and a few castellon mechs and just fell because can’t save every shot
uhhhh, 
honestly dunno.
I think kitten is doin fine
last I checked in his armour was silver.
cause Tzeentch is a sore loser
Oh your far behind Kek
Ive tried to a few times but then I get.... bored?
bored is the wrong word.
I become disinterested because Ive absorbed too much information and need a break
and then I forget
and then I restart
and then the cycle repeats
honestly the shadowsword also had a good crew cause that bugger shot twice so fast
oh yeah
thats basically there major flaw they cant move while charging
they fire and hope to god they dont get spotted
fire, hope to hell that you killed whatever you shot at, or you arent seen.
would be a miriacle if we ever got a battlefield/battlefront esque game
and the map is just large enough for a titan or 2 and we get to actually pull of that scene
but it should happen over time starting from space marine as we slowly build up proper PvP

Purple Orcs
i see
Heeeh
be nice to kitty
Mhm apperantly some people was able to play demo of DoW4
And sounds like it will be back to roots of DoW1 with mix of DoW2
yeh thats what i read on some thing
Not wanna give hopes up on DoW4. But it do look good. Probably they gonna expand with more factions via DLC's after release. But already solid from get go: SM - Orks - Nekrons and Mechanikus. Each have unique gimmics and also own campaing to play.
I had a friend one day in my warhammer group during a Crusade have some commandos. He did the bases all up and such, but didn’t have the models on them. He just said they were purple orks and everyone went along with it as a funny joke.
im a wait and see but still excited
also there have been plenty of youtube people prominent ones for warhammer RTS games who played the demo and are already talking bout what they experienced
im basically looking at everything i can cause im one of the people who does not care one bit bout spoilers in the slightest
all i can say is cause if one is worried bout how a game is going to come out to this degree seriously just can your avoidance of spoilers cause at least seeing everything you can to gather as much info as possible to keep yourself informed will well inform you on whether a game is going to be good in your eyes or not
the amount of times especially for warhammer games where people were just shocked on release day bout X thing in a game when i straight up already knew bout it cause i kept up to date on everything they showed
people can choose to avoid spoilers thats completely understandable but ive just seen way too many times people just exploding etc over stuff devs for alot of games in general not just warhammer ones that they had been publicly showing and being open bout for a month or more before a release date
Ok is it just me or is there votann at the end of the mechanicus 2 trailer
I've heard people say there's Votann in the game, but I haven't seen a confirmation.
if you mean these boys?
thats votan alright
stark white, 70s space helms, runic weaponry.
now, in what form in game?
who knows.
but in this trailer, those are the votan.
They are in the game the trailer literally says at the end something along the lines of, the votann deploy where where they will us
And something about their great machines
So yes they are in the mechanicus 2
Also gurm those are actually damn near replicas of the votan minis so yes it is the league
thats what I said!
I know
okie
yeh there in it
they have shown them before in earlier trailers
What's up with this Votann helmet...
because usuall helmets looks like this
Or simply helmet less
the front one has a different helmet,t he one behid him has the same as those minis
yea that looks identicle to the front one, maybe robit taking point?
Eh dunno
yeh the robots get very similar heads to the mechancius ones
just dont have the headcovers on there domes
but yeh we even have robot commanders
wait which trailer is this cause i think there was stuff earlier
yeh there was literally one 2 months ago showcasing it
That's definitely been me this summer. Though mostly I'm trying to get everything primed and ready so I can paint all winter. IIRC spray primer doesn't work too hot in the cold.
Spray primer doesn’t like excess heat or cold. It’s a picky beast.
Apparently putting hot water on the can first fixes this but haven’t tried it
..... I..... I dont believe that.
temperature is about how it attaches and dries to the plastic, I dont know how heating up a rattle can with water would do that.
We've been doing tests and warming up the can does help make for a smoother spray.
Normally Grey Seer looks a bit textured, but ours come out really nice in comparison to most.
Science go burrr and not work
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Bringing this back
I like what I see for all the stuff the imperial knights are gonna be getting my imperial knights are happy
Ugggh I wanna play the only Warhammer Titan game that’s ever existed
If I can find an old Apple cord I might have it on an old IPad but even then I don’t know how to make an emulator
Check GOG
Sweet summer child
Otherwise, I’d say find a pirated copy
Wait, it’s not dead
Last update was a year ago
Are we thinking of the same game the game where you play as imperial Titans not the mobile game where you play in imperial knight
Freeblade
OK, so mobile one I was thinking of the PC game
I know, but still fun and the main problems were just graphical issues
ok just give us a horus heresy PvP shooter game cause thats honest where it should start off at first before going into 40k
Something like Battlefront, where you can choose between different time periods but still have a semblance of progression via the various classes and elites (not to be mistaken for the heros)
yeh but just start it off with the heresy era and its just marines to start things off then they bring in mechanicum and solar auxilia for the heresy then when there ready either make a new game with 40k or all of it or just add on to the current game
just a slow build up to we finally get it all
the average thing for fun for them is competing to hunt other aliens like humans for sport
honestly reminds me of a certain thing in another series that i wont name
that too but i was talkin bout something else
lil timmy is gonna learn about some CRIMES today!
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And its a melee
No melta, no hotshot, no longlas, no nothin ranged
Another power sword that has the same mechanics to the relic blade
sigh
On the bright side, according to community managers on the discord, Hellbore's getting a sight rework
thats.... nice?
Better not be the terrible irons still
if my psyker tree gets reset im fucked cause i have no idea what i did to make it and i was busted
You can also just look up talents if need be. The talent tree pathways were pretty limited anyway, and now the weaker options are more viable.
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Thr whole host o changes
This is my favorite change
Just kill elites. Ez.
when I think of it, any time I use loner It barely been used unless I see a random piece of plasteel and go away from the group. I used loner wrong, and I only had it on one build for my zealot
love it
but also
tournament banned: modeling for advantage
cause guess how you draw LoS in games workshop land.
if you guessed: taking the actual line of sight from the MODELS HEAD. you'd be correct. because GW are drunk on power.
"Beeg arms = beeg marine!"
This space marine

The funniest of things
Have tried melee psyker on current patch Darktide. Is gut.
Issue: Uh teammates is dying around and being left alone

Mostly funny: People getting WIPED by new scab plasma trooper
They count as a gunner elite iirc, so now the gunner curio perk is even more MANDATORY for high level runs…
Cus it 100% was definitely not already…
always have 2
3 is a bit overkill
And give much less
And heck THEY tanky
Most fifly thing they also tanky.
Quite armored - Uh around 3k hp at auric
Funny from Close Test: They dint count as gunner for curio at first.
They didnt learn the lesson when they nerfed fire so they just HAD to makr another instant toughness deletion enemy
And then spawn them in groups of 4+ AAAAND GIVE THEM CARAPACE HEADS LIKE MAULERS
Well designed enemy, i see no flaws
10/10 no notes
Like 90% of loses today
I was last man standing
And most common enemy everyone died: Plasma
Magic
Also you see in the patch notes they buffed crushers health nearly double? But "slightly" lowered their spawn rates?
I call bullshit
Yah I think they overdid it for them. Because bringing something that could pen carapace wasn’t important already…
Now we have another enemy with carapace and the previously armored enemies have way more hp.
They need nerf them not COME in packs
1 is enough danger already can be with horde
3? overkill
Man just tried Thunder hammer zealot this patch of Darktide. Feeling good
no, once again, orks are the reason that orks dont control the galaxy
they are there worst enemy
Like after playing this DT patch for a while.
Plasma Scabs is VT2 Beastkin all over again
Balance? Fair?
Out the window.
You have 3 aim at you? And no cover? Good luck dodge em with they not sync(And they will be not)
question: does the corpse of my Ogryn ally count as cover?
Well even ogryn in shield stance cant save you
Soooo
Nope
And they can even splash true psyker shield
dear god
abominations.
It's really Winds of Magic all over again
But as SINGLE unit
Beast people was overtuned at release
It's was zero fun to play vs em
still is but yeah
Honestly I haven’t had an issue with them.
I’ve only ever been downed by them once, and it was because I was focused on the chaos spawn harassing me.
Their damage is brutal, but when you know they’re there play corners and force them into melee.
Works wonders for me, but I have noticed that I’ve had to clutch every single run since these guys dropped.
In same boat
People drops like fly
Had to cluch some how
While on top sword captain
Worst part is here no proper corners - horde - captain and they refuse to come to you.
Open maps with em is hella death vally
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Lasma gunners got nerfed
Y'know what that typo is cool im keeping it
lasma feels like the lead in to some kind of "nuts" or "balls" joke
No, i do not want to lasma balls
why are we saying lasma
well you see
i was originally gonna edit the message i posted but Lasma sounded cool
cuz Plasma gunners in Darktide got nerfed
Honestly?
Skill diff.
I know they were crazy strong compared to the other gunners, but I do genuinely think that's just because they're not affected by the curio blessing.
Cutting their damage down by 60% would make them such a lower priority.
its almost like plasma weapons are horrificly lethal
The damage alone wasnt the problem, it was that combined with them spawning packs of 10 of them (and a traitor captain too because WHY NOT), ignoring cover, ignoring other enemies, ignoring headshots because its carapace, and they each shot EVERY SECOND
Oh, and also they splashed through psyker bubbles/walls and couldn't be blocked with either ogryn/arby shields (fair, bulwarks cant block our plasma) but also Deflector blessing from psyker (why, its warp bull)
By every account it was not a balanced enemy or event in the slightest
I just want to play with the new bolt weapon variants but the armory keeps saying nah, og bolt weapons for you
darktide moment
classic
....
You know you can switch any in other marks?
Mark hunting was removed with mastery update
While inspecting here's button
I did not know that
Thank you for telling me
I did guess you havent played for a while
Since uh mastery update been out for 1.5 year already? I think
No. I started when mortis trials was out, I just had no clue that was a thing, lol
Slick do you think person who started around mortis trials gonna looks at older patchnotes?
Like i'm almost never look at old patchnotes of game i just got
Mortis and mastery was maybe half year apart
Need look in to what. Because i'm not fully sure about dates
THEY YAMCHAED MAGNUS!
Magnus did nothing wrong
CW: NSFW mentions
Weird how the chaos got homies sterotype
But I also love admech so embrace max goof
ngl, something real funny about a notable percentage of grey knights being helluva boss fans
EC and GSC seem to be mixed up
Yeeeah
adhd fits ec at least
Tyranids are asexual and or transgender….
Neato.
But yeah those stats are real funny.
Hell yes
GW recent xmas box anouncement and. like.
they've nicknamed this one "crusher stampede"
as someone who's run that in battle this is not at all what you would run in crusher stampede. this is Timmies monster mash of "all the crap GW couldnt sell this year"
because malceptors arent that great, screamer killers arent that great, haruspex's arent that great, the big lug in the back left aint that great, and the neurothrope aint that great.
they have niche use in specific lists but on their own or even in this comp its just.
like.
bad.
this is what the spacies are getting
TWO Dreads, a plasma squad, and a buncha generic spacies
thats like
a proper anvil to be hammered into.
(in refrence to the anvil and hammer strategies within warfare)
How's the year of chaos
Dunno, all we have is a ton of ultramarine and a new calgar model
they seriously gave the tyrinid side 1 of each big/bigger boy, and the spacies an entire small army?
yeup.
to be clear: its a perfectly fine army expansion for those already in the hobby. the thing is Tyranids are the big bads this edition, and xmas boxes are a large way people get into the game. an Xmas box for the faction that is the current big bads should probably not be the "oh hell what do we put in a box?!" mix.
its a good mix of firepower and support monsters, all with roles that you would want to some excent.
but all 5 mishmashed together would be a horrific starting point for a new player.
but if you're expanding your already existant tyranid army, its a wonderful box.
Wait, 40k dark mechanicum model real?
Or well, Dark mechanicum unit for the black legion faction
chaos space marines have had access to select dark mechanicum units for a while now yeah.
Oh, I didn't know since I don't do tabletop much, lol
entirely fair.
Only books and games
thats the financially responsible way to do it
Well, you could buy all the horus heresy books. That's the equivalent of making a army
I did not do that however
You have single off books like Brutal kunnin, you have trilogy books like the night lords. And then you have the hole in your wallet known as the HH books
theres also the smaller but still titanic hole in your pocket known as the Ciaphas Cain books. in which the man has I wanna say some 4 odd "omnibus" style compliations.
Who's that again, I forgotten
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Oh yea, the litteral gigachad commissar
But he’s also dating a inquisitor
Which if I remember correctly massively boosted his mental health and also tanked it because she’s a inquisitor
dated*
he's technically dead
ish
okay look he died of old age but he's come back from "death" on SO MANY occations the imperium REFUSES to mark him as actually being dead in the system.
also yes
he died of OLD AGE, in WARHAMMER
...
Are you sure?
as I have heard it told, yes.
and this is not just random schmucks on the internet, these are TRUSTED random people on the internet.
and in person
I am flabbergasted that someone in warhammer died of old age
yeup
he also lived for centuries because of age treatments. his inquisitor girlfriend pulled the strings she could. they both had long and storied lives with each other.
I highly reccomend reading some of his books.
aint his last stories him in a school teaching commissars
then he kinda got pulled back into combat during school
then back to school
hell his even recorded as still alive despite actually being in the ground now
Rylanor storms out from the warp as a LotD Dread
But of course.
Lesbians feel like sisters to me, only I’m allowed to make fun of them
I might throw rocks but we’re in this glass house together
That said, girl you need help
The mostly naked body pillow and raunchy fanfic is insane
You made the servoskull blush, what the hell did you write that can do that?
I mean.
Shes an inquisitor.
Theres no crazy like repressed crazy.
woe be upon you, melta bomb
That chaos marine damn screwed up
Just ask is bringing a voidraven bomber to 1000 points game overkill or no
aircraft in general in 1K games can be uhhh.
interesting.
I dunno do it. ittle be fine.
Hadron I swear to the emperor himself give me just five minutes to LIVE through this before we start figuring out if I did or did not force the USB in the wrong way.
"But what if you damaged the holy data transfer device?"
"If you keep yapping I can make it a certainty that I damaged it rather than a maybe."
force it in harder? ok hammer time
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what day is it? month? solar alignment? have you prayed to the emperor recently?
specifically how many scales are showing?
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oh gurm didya see the salamanders one
I saw it existed. Not listened.
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There’s a guy on Spotify who has a bunch idk if this is the same guy but know they have Orks and salamanders
OK, just ask would trench Crusade theme bases for chaos dwarves be too out of place or no?
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Got it. The only difference between Princess Bubblegum and Big E is the former is capable of self reflection and growth. :P
well now hold on
the Big E is capable of all kinds of growth.
over time he's become a worse and worse parrental figure.
nobody said it was positive.
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is the skaven a traitor if he always intended to stab in in the back?
he called himself one, so I'm not going to argue the point
Trick question: Skaven are by default traitors.
The only reason why they haven't "won" is because they keep backstabbing eachother, constantly.
And thus why the vermintide is so horrifying.
Every Skaven clan united under one banner. One goal. No backs stabbed.
Same reason why orks haven’t “won” in 40K.
Although.
Well okay an eternal war between nidds and orks with each side scaling with the other across an entire galaxy would be awesome but at that point I’d say both sides “won”
no winners, just everyone else loses :p
Probably. Astartes is fully out of option being added in DT
yeah. admech is.... unlikely.
and any xenos are right out.
although
I mean I could see us getting a servator as a class
note servators are not the servo skulls we see around.
they're horrifying abominations. people trapped within their own minds forced to work. turning a human brain into a computer to work a machine and nothing else.
Eh what about Skitarii? Unlikey but a chance
oh right the Skitarii exist!
Like been send to assist Hadron or something like what
They go both melee and ranged so it fist in DT
look I can only remember so many of the marsy boys at a single time.
And it be cool if they had different look depens on what talents you did choise
Since they outfitted with augments depens where they fight
xenos... kinda not.
gryndel is an radical inquisitor and isn't in the ordo xenos. and in mortis trials dialog, we have seen aeldari being helped by gryndel.or well, gryndel telling rannik or someone to aid them.
any other xenos... no
from what I've seen there is no other xenos faction that is near the mobian domain
ehhhhh. I guess.
I dunno
I just
it would clash too hard with the hummies v nurgle athstetic we've got going on for me.
yea
we might get an ashlander from necromunda. even though lore wise that makes zero sense
but who cares about the lore! ashlander! woo!
my bets are on 3 for new class
new abhuman (Kroots? goats?) Skitarii, or some assassinorum
honorable mention to an aeldar since we are in an inquisitors warband
The trailer had a mention of rations going missing
That’s almost certainly a ratling.
finally, Bardin Gorikson Darktide
Having someone from the assassinorum feels like too much resources. Plus it would be hard to get into the domain according to rannick so they probably wouldn't get here in time like with the Armageddon steel legion Morrow tried to get in touch with which sparked rannick saying the thing from earlier
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Hunting for cheese?
hmm can cheese be corrupted by chaos?
Yes. You've heard of the maggot cheese from that one Italian Island, yeah? That's 1000% a Warp-corrupted cheese.
exterminatus?
Only for the one italian island that makes maggot cheese.
we can focus the orbital cannon im told
Awesome.
By the Holy Ordos NEVER mention that abomination again
This is perfect.
We have reached peak darktide names
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papa nurgle blessed me today
With the maggot cheese? 
You're the one praising Nurgle, not me. 
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thats his evil twin :v
Yeah I'm the evil twin
a classic
if anything it would be 42 or 44000 years have past
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this is GOOD
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neat
Not heretical. Girlyman was the only one to interpret Big E’s words correctly. 
Big E said “F xenos”.
perfect
we got poxigors in age of sigmar!
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i would say the armor type but its hard to spell and i too distracted
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Dang.
Yeah
Titus sure good look aged a bit
Assume it's gonna be his canon future....so seems he all good after SM2
did we expect him to not have?
also yeah, he was VERY good after SM2.
did you never see the ending to that game?
alright cool just wanted to double check
Good he back to be captain....if revember originally he was cap in SM1 yah?
Just took some time.....and maybe beat some one who was sussy always
after..... what was it? 100 or so years in the black legion?
And i think in minis....is his comrades from SM2?
the minis are a mix of his SM2 pals and other hangerons.
oh, no hes not a captain Andrei.
hes a Master of the Watch
thats
thats more than just where he was
thats a titanic promotion
Eh my hearing a bit bad
Anyway his mini looks cool
Deserved after what happened to him.
yea
Got so high
astounding that he survived the process of becoming primaris but then again, no named character has ever failed it so.......
cowards
anywho, the new books look fun
cant tell if its a crusade or a generic narative format
it sounds crusade adjacent?

Uh need to reinstall SM2 and try out all new PvE Maps they did dropped
I pretty much just done campaing and a bit pve at launch
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what if the next class in darktide is just a random abhuman that has no art gw just threw at fatshark and told them to "put this in game"
Ogryns didn't have a tabletop model so wouldn't be the first time
if they're gonna add another abhuman my bets on Ratlings
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?
I highly doubt it.
They said they don't want to make another character rig
And the more I look at ratling, it would just be smaller vet
Im still betting on rattling
Cowards
Fatshark charm back at it again
what I want
is lexmechanics
where it is confirmed that all of the missing lexmechanics in tertium were just hiding in a comedically large toaster in an interzone void
If you say 9 there's a chance they put the bolter down. :P
19, i fear not the boltor
What's the actual answer I thought there were 20
I depends on the exact definition you use.
If you limit it to Loyalists: 9.
If you limit it to ones that we've gotten actual names for, a different amount.
If you include the ones we know exist (but haven't gotten names or lore (beyond "these guys exist" because they want to have "blank slate" Primarchs for people to homebrew legion ideas)), another different amount.
so theres 20, but 2 are lost, but also theres Omegon, who is the other half of Alpherius, except Alpherius is "dead" so theres only 20ish.
so
when I said 22 I meant 21 earlier
And yeah, if you include Omegon as separate to Alpharius, there's actually 21.
yeah
wait, we dont even have names for every primarch?
So basically, a mess of answers depending on definitions used.
Nope. There's 2 "lost" ones that never got official names because they wanted "blank slate" Primarchs for people to use for homebrewing.
there are 19 named primarchs.
to support creativity, GW made two "primarchs" who quite literally only serve the purpose of "build your own primarch and space marine faction to play"
literally encouraging fanfiction and such
they're "lost" because as hero said, they basically arent real.
their factions will never be known, they will never be written about or mentioned, they merely exist as a slot to do OCs in
very much so, but its how it is
But yeah, the amount can be, depending on definitions chosen:
9, if limiting to named Loyalists.
18 if limiting to named Primarchs, loyalist or traitor.
19 if limited to named Primarchs, loyalist or traitor, and treating Omegon as separate from Alpharius.
20 if including the "lost" Primarchs but not treating Omegon as separate.
21 if including the "lost" Primarchs and treating Omegon as separate.
All but 9 and 18 are likely to get you shot by the bolter.
18 is still likely to get you shot by the bolter because you're acknowledging that the Traitor Primarchs exist.
and to be clear the reason you can count omegon and alpherius as the same person or not is because they are and arent.
their name is Alpherius Omegon.
not ALpherius and Omegon, not Omegon and Alpherius.
Alpherius Omegon is their name. because they are and arent the same person.
its weird
its part of the whole "nobody really knows whats going on with Alpha Legion" schtick
Even the out-of-character lore (the stuff that the reader is privy to but not the characters in the stories) is spotty on if they're separate or one body.
and Alpherius is... "dead"
but also.... not.
some dude who claimed to be Alpherius did die 'on camera' in a book, except that well. uhhhh. dudes who claim to be Alpherius keep popping up, and his legion certainly hasn't felt his absence.
its one of those things where at any point GW could bring him back if they wanted to.
Unlike the Salamanders who have felt the absence of Vulkan who's still on his respawn timer from the last time we saw him.
indeed
the legions without hteir primarch show it
or typically do
depends on the writer
Alpha Legion has very consistently shown not to show the standard results of a dead Primarch, though, regardless of writer.
but overall the loss of a primarch is often marked in certain attitudes towards that primarch and immortalizing the past.
when the primarch is alive, well, the spacies actually continue to function without writing fanfiction about their !=dad
and while some of this can be explained by the known presence of Omegon, see the whole "twin primarch" shenanigains
if half of a legions primarch was dead, my personal take is that we'd notice.
But yeah, 9 is the safest answer to how many Primarchs there are, if asked with a Bolter pointed at your head, and 18 the second safest.
While 20 or 21 is the "canon" answer.
Yeah, in which case it's 18 is the safest and 9 the second safest (because they'll assume you're referring to the Loyalist Legions with 9, rather than the Traitor Legions, just like how a Loyalist Spacie will assume you're referring to the Loyalist Legions with an answer of 9 rather than to the Traitor Legions, but both will understand you as referring to both groups with 18).
also true.
oh boy, we are talking about primarchs and the twilight zone episode of Alpherious Omegon
something akin to that pretty much
Para over there pulled the pin on a lore hand grenade and well
here we are
oopsie
to be fair, even the alpherious omegon book gives us everything and nothing at the same time
It is, by all purposes, the biggest paradox in warhammer
Alpha legion is gonna be alpha legion.
no matter whos writing. no matter whats said.
No, the biggest paradox in Warhammer is how the Inquisition hasn't imploded on itself. 
we need to give those idiots more months of shame at the minimum
to be honest, fair
Months of Shame Round 2: The Terminus Decree Is Stupid Edition.
"you idiots wrote that I said WHAT?!" -if TTS was still going
I miss tts
at least we have hunter the parrenting these days
oh its awesome
although the most recent episode.
I.
the feels man. (no theres not a new one Im reminicing)
Fattigue deserved it 
I meant ||Marchus getting kidnapped was really emotional for me and Im worried about the lil guy.||
Oh that Kek
He’s fine
||Nothing ever bad has happened to people that got sucked into the umbra in WOD||
||yeahhhh. course not.||
||god the werewolf reveal was. that was so intense. it was awesome.||
what is this? a world where Big E was a good father?
tts makers' new series after GW got very litigious about 40k fan works.
Its based on the World of Darkness setting i think?
what on earth am i watching
I get the impression on what if Big E was in world of darkness and was a less shitty father
World of Darkness story by the writers of TTS.
You'll hear some familiar voices and see some familiar faces but the long and short is that it is very much their own thing. their own world, their own ideas, no longer just riffing off of what 40K had.
and yes I know World of Darkness is another property but its a TTRPG, very different from the stuffy realm of canonical events and occurrences.
its weird as hell and absolutely wonderful.
lets be clear, he's still an AWFUL parrent. but. he's trying. trying to be there for his boys.
yep
oh lol announce of DT class was delayed to octo 18
But at same time they did announce it wil released at Dec 2
Will it be free along side the quarter 4 update. Only the emperor knows
Probably again paid
well i gotta say now we know the final fate of Acheran and Chairon you know the guys we see in space marine 2
and well there both dead now
by what, dinga?
They did pretty much activated isolation from inside and got trapped with entire gene cult
Price for let not spread genestealers
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Good morning!Just letting you know that Acheran and Chairon were both killed off-screen.
This is it, apparently. This is them dying
"they're video game characters? Well that's easy canon fodder to kill off screen"
yeh we talked bout this earlier
Oh damnit. I missed the postponement of the class reveal for darktide. It's the 18th.
Rip.
But at same time they did say it be released at dec 2
We just gonna be for 1 more week blind what da hell they gonna add
I've seen some of the conversation in here about what it would be. I do think they're missing out if they don't go with ratling or another abhuman.
Minus the argument of making a new model and animation skeleton*.
Will see really
With current models it's hard to know who gonna be added
Like....what chance what umh sister of battle will be added? They not astartes
Eh guessing on coffie mug really
Sisters come equipped with their own variants of power armour and weaponry more expensive and potent than any of our other idiots get to look at.
Unlikely.
Yah
Okay what really class vise we missing as just normal humans?
Vet goes as pretty much guards-commisar sorta deal
EVeryone else is what they are
Mayble really a something mechanis related? Model exist but eh rigging probably not
Bueh really hard to think what we gonna get
My best bet still skitarii...humanish model with just well augments and stuff strapped on
It's gatta be an abhuman or skitarii.
Maybe*, just maybe, they could justify an imperial assassin?
But they're like, WAY too op.
Same boat as sisters are in this context.
With Fatshark said new class will not have new model - rig. Abhumans are pretty much 0 chance
Unless they just shrink human model to ratling or something. BUt it will be just smol vet
Oh really for heck of it. Admech. Like other WH games aka SM2 and also Mechanikus 2 release at some point. SM2 Getting Tech-marine class at some point. Reason? Same release of arbi in DT and Rogue Trader. So what's stops to do same thing again.
So it's a chance really
Yah Q1 next year SM2. I sure did revember what but dint revember time frame
I gave my take. So gonna end for now
Dear god no Slick. Imperial assassins are…. So far beyond our band of buffoons. One of those lunatics showing up could obliterate an entire mission without trying.
Best of the best, given hyper drugs and enhancements and sealed away until they’re given a target.
it's the bulbasour evolution, it's an eversor assassin
Snrk.
I want a game where I can play as a calidus assassin for no particular reason
GabeCube Kant mizz.
honestly if they started giving grots better guns they would be a menace
they have the better aim
Guiliman. That’s. That’s not reasonable.
Or it wouldn’t be if GW didn’t give the blueberries infinite plot armour except the ones they kill offscreen.
i think he at least has the resources directly from ultramar too
1 spacie can take 5 planets solo easy :p
I can’t remember his name for the life of me
A C and an M?
Or is it the other way around?
Malum Caedo according to wiki
Truly.
I feel like Trayzn, I wanna yoink him
Reasonable
Yes, but a Rogue Trader would wear just about anything.
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Wow
yeah
honestly kinda disapointed
I expected better
was way too hyped up for what it ended up being
The axe/machete there looks cool at least?
huh i was vaguely right from ages ago
so will they give us a new slot to make the character or will we be forced to delete a character
Fair nuff.
for a second i thought it was a helldiver cape
but i saw the channel and it hit me '"yeah we'll never get capes this cool ever"
mid reveal, good dev blog about the SCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM tho
Yeah
THey couldve done a skitarii, or a sororitas, or something inquisito related or a xeno-something
But instead we got
A gangster
and we're probably not even gonna get anything cool like
Blunderpoles
Blunderpoles in question
hmmm... can we dual wield crowbars tho? I am expecting someone to make a gordon freeman character as a hive scum character
it IS in a museum, just not the British Imperial one
You mean a storeroom no one ever goes in
Trayzn goes in Blood Raven storerooms?
theres a comic of Trazyn getting kidnapped into the british museum
Yeah. It's where he gets most of his Imperium-based displays.
That’s not what I was saying
I meant that Blood Raven Storerooms are validated by the fact that Trayzn goes in them?
Also yes.
I assumed you meant trazyn's collection by this
Gee it's almost like fatshark gave teasers and zero clues to get us hyped and speculating
its the whole reason i give no crap bout that it wasnt a tech priest
hell i knew it wasnt tech priest cause there was already a tech priest around that your in active communications with and if anything it would of been a enginseer cause yes they are different and even then i wasnt expecting anything
but, also... "gangster thug" is so boring as a concept
So many interesting units exist in 40k lore, apparently there's even a TTRPG with darktide integration that has possibly dozens of them, some more plausible for the game than others... and you chose... gang thug.
i mean to be honest escher and the big guys in necromunda are pretty cool looking
the deluxe skin you get with it is very in line with that major mercenary gangster character from necromunda too
Veteran so good, they gave us Veteran 2
Veteran the second, kinda stinky and not really what anyone asked for.
Now with DRUGS!
And apparently, free regenerating medkits because screw balance i guess
Had to double check.
Half true
I dont think they will give you to get med stim effect
Just maybe 10% maybe hp recovery max but with huge CD
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Yep figured Zola gonna be one who got em on board sorta
Oh boi cant wait to hear how arbi gonna go talk with em
But mostly Ogryn
Ogryn always find da way to be ogryn
oh yeh there going very escher with that character then
Scummy
honestly could just look through necromunda and see what ogyrns call the gangers cause the lady is very escher without the extreme colorfulness
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Just ask what would be the best colour for hellsmiths of hashut if they had a silver trim
just watched a video about "40k isnt THAT op actually" in versus context, and uh... Xeelee Sequence sure is a Thing™
people always fail to understand that 40k is literally the sci fi dark ages
PancreasNoWork, I’m assuming?
Is very gud indeed.
I mean 40k’s raw power has rarely been their on the ground gear.
Some of it is really really impressive. But their main strength is sheer scale and flipping the bird to the square cubed law.
There’s many universes that would absolutely destroy them
Xeelee Sequence blows even 40k’s actual ace card out of the water.
Oh?
It can beat the tyranids?
The universe spanning infinitely evolving horrors?
Cause that’s 40k’s typical “I’ve already won” button
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Yeah. So. As I said.
40K has scale, and a middle finger to the square cubed law.
A good handful of these universes he talks about I’d be more than happy to debate that the tyranids eventually just win anyways. But. Not this one…. Not… not this one.
Yeah, the Xeelee Sequence is insane.
Essentially anything but deadspace was a win for the nidds….
And then there’s the Xeelee.
Although arguably necromorphs V nidds would devolve into a paste eating contest where neither side ever wins.
The nids can’t beat what they can’t eat. They can eat Necromorphs, they can’t eat the Xeelee Sequence.
I mean. They could eat most of humanity. But. Then there’s everything else.
No, they literally can’t eat the Xeelee. There’s nothing to eat.
As I said. They can eat humanity.
I SPECIFICALLY STATED HUMANITY.
The rats playing in the sandbox
The vermin expanding beyond their means
Tzeentch would love the xeelee.
The Xeelee transcend physicality in all ways. So the nids would hit a hardstop after finishing off humanity.
Yup
The Xeelee would not like Birdman Plotmeister, though.
The birds destroy the universe if not fought.
The birds destroyed the universe even WHEN fought
Anyways I have a new awesome scifi setting to throw at people
Only the one time, though. After resetting to the big bang again, the birds didn’t manage a round two victory.
But yeah. 40K is small. It has its wins, it’s big shiny buttons. But at the end of the day it’s not a universe about winning. It’s a universe that already lost to itself.
Other settings care not for such a setback and dream bigger.
It might start winning again if GW let Big E achieve apotheosis.
Of course tyranids slap down most of these settings back to the Stone Age because again: near infinite universe spanning bio plague of endless evolution.
But there are some that could “win”
True. Perhaps.
Watched more of the video and besides the Xeelee and a few other minor concessions I think he places too much weight on the other universes lore, not accounting for differences in how 40K works.
The dude says the doomslayer would win in 40K.
He wouldn’t. Khorne would trap him on a war planet and turn him into the greatest battery of energy he could possibly have ever found.
Yes I get that the whole point is that “40K isn’t an auto win” but…. A lot of the arguments are just…. Wrong?
Simone is basically a chaos god, but that doesn’t mean he’s “won”, it just means he’s another near unstoppable force among the 5-6 other unstoppable psionic entities that already exist. Unless he ya know, spirals himself further which he could, but I feel like he’d just be another denizen of the warp.
The Xeelee are a really cool point though. Otherwise…. Ehhh?
Yes I’m putting way too much time and energy into this but it bugs me and so I’m grumbling about it.
i still standby that the Tenno win against 40K
idk if its mentioned in that vid but warframes are so broken compared to most things
The Tenno are basically psychers.
Do you know what tyranids and blanks do to psychers?
The Tenno would have a great time until they met either.
At which point they’re in for a very. Very. Bad time.
The Tenno tap into the power of the void, which is essentially a vast unconsciousness of power that bends reality.
That’s
That’s basically the warp
Like. Duviri? That’s classic warp stuff.
This assumes that the Mental Bond between the Tenno and the Frames would hitch onto the Warp as a replacement.
I’m saying the void IS the warp
It's not, though.
The Void is the Void, and the Warp is the Warp.
Essentially the same, yes.
But not exactly the same.
Bah humbug
Fine
The Tenno are all slaughtered by the golden boys
Are you happy now?
Yes.
Rad.
Because that one's true regardless of if the Mental Bond hitches onto the Warp as a replacement for the Void.
Fair enough
Golden boys just got super aids from Saryn or rurned into swiss cheese by Dante
…….
You really underestimate how fast the golden lads are
Dontcha
While not as fast as the Khan, they can give lore accurate redline Gauss a run for his money.
Each and every one of them.
And this is on top of all their obscene gear.
A warframe begins to cast and gets obliterated on the atomic level by a power blade.
Also Future Sight Psykers giving them forewarnings for stuff.
Also that
Like. If saryn has prep time? Yeah sure
Nurgle actually probably already kidnapped her to his garden though
But said prep time comes with Golden Boys getting forewarning and thus also preptime.
Yeah
And they’ve got future sight psychers
Also again, within said prep time Saryn probably gets kidnapped by nurgle
And turned into a tree
Or put into a Jar, like what happened with Isha.
Also a possibility
Dante…. Dante would probably chill with Tzeentch? I think they’d just be buds.
Tzeentch would explode the instant of being exposed to Dante, and Dante would usurp the role of Tzeentch.
And thereby Tzeentch and Dante would be buds
Communitive property and all that.
Word hard spell
You're thinking a Fateweaver situation, with two distinct minds?
I’m thinking Oblivion becoming sheogorath type thing.
In which you are sheo, but sheo is still a distinct concept you will become.
And also Sheo is now Order, rather than Madness.
But also is still Madness, becuase you will become Sheo as the Madness eventually overtakes you.
Now do it, at minimum, 4 more times, not including any death or shield gates.
Not to mention most frames do not even need a line of sight, they could be 4 rooms over
And lets not forget the lil void child who can pop out to kill 3 dudes to undo one of those deaths
shield gate is a game mechanic.
revives are a game mechanic.
we're ignoring game mechanics.
last grasp is also a game mechanic.
do note this does mean you get lore accurate atlas
who can shatter moons
Now that is just disingenuous
do you really want to roll dice to be able to hit the golden boys, then roll dice to be able to attempt to damage the golden boys, then they get to roll dice to ignore said damage, and if the damage gets thorugh they get to roll again to try and prevent that damage?
cause we can do dice rolling if you want
I just dont think you wanna bring in dice rolling.
Book/codex accurate custodes is as overpowered as the writers want
custodes lose to tyranids
but just to be clear. the grounds the original video was about, is "lore accurate" versions of all the characters.
in their dumbest states
orks dont lose
orks only win more.
look you want really really ludicrous lore?
Xeelee are absolutely terrifying.
they turn the entire 40k universe into paste on accident
Or on purpose because they saw that Tzeentch is a bird.
also possible
and flood
while you are correct, it should be noted that in the video that comment was refering to, halo was not one of the series mentioned.
the tenno bit kinda depends on whether we outright define the void as its own thing or just the warp
also the tenno are kinda stuck in one system and without system to system travel i can definitely see them as a rogue element that the custodes and imperium would be constantly trying to track down and deal but never be able to properly deal with fully
directly in the sol system
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The best kind
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Voiced by Tim Bentinck, the voice of Victor Saltzpyre, the Heavy is a loud and aggressive Ogryn with extensive working experience among the cartels as gang muscle. Now he's lending his formidable brawn to Grendyl's warband together with the Hive Scum coming December 2nd.
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they legit just have dual wield m1911s as a gun
Yes, and it's amazing
Just wrapped up a match where some random complained about me pinging enemies too much.
When I said GG at the end he just wrote "No"
what a weird hill to die on
Been playing since beta, never had that before
i would just reply again with Yes
EDF with the numbers of the imperial guard would solve warhammer
