bah
#Heresy? HERESY?! [Warhammer + 40k]
dense isle
the inquisition is stupid
except for like those 3 times they werent
time 1 was Caiaphous Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
time 2 was.... I forget
and time 3 is classified
tiny pike
Time 1 was Caiaphus Cain.
Time 2 was never.
Time 3 was never, the only time the Inquisition wasn't stupid and wrong was Caiaphus Cain.
rotund moon
is that what this song is about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT2g2JywF2g
dense isle
Time 1 was Caiaphus Cain.
Time 2 was never.
Time 3 was never, the only time the ...
Checks out
My math is clearly going
rotund moon
neat
tiny pike
It's a whole feud, because Inquisitor McFuckface threatened the Wolves' homeworld when biting at them.
dense isle
well now that
is just foolish
the inquisitor does know the space wolves primarch is in fact still around yeah?
rotund moon
inquisitors are not above Finding Out when they Fuck Around with Spacies
dense isle
inquisitors are not above Finding Out when they Fuck Around with Spacies
on occation select few are. but most just die horribly.
tiny pike
the inquisitor does know the space wolves primarch is in fact still around yeah?
Iirc, this happened before Russ was found.
tepid tundra
i loved watching all the chat bad people being deleted in twitch chat
when they showed the space wolves
dense isle
chat bad people?
tepid tundra
yeh the usual people be annoying doing various things in chat that they shouldnt in warhammer stream chats
tiny pike
The neonazis, that like the Space Wolves for the other kind of "Space Norse"?
tepid tundra
apparently people were annoyed by the "year of chaos" and i remember one person getting timed out when they were TaLkInG lIkE tHiS
the other stuff i cant properly remember what they were saying
dense isle
bah
tepid tundra
oh crap i just finally read the thing for the new world eater lord his possessed by a bloodthirster
solemn mason
For those who still play Darktide
Ogryns box of nades is SUPER busted in the new game mode
With the right perks it just, lasts forever
And also drops the big grenade
north hedge
Just to ask does brass as an armour colour work for votann
dense isle
Just to ask does brass as an armour colour work for votann
absolutely
seen it done before
tepid tundra
Ogryns box of nades is SUPER busted in the new game mode
but is it busted in normal darktide
urban flint
urban flint
tepid tundra
outside of that book nothing yet
oh wait his at the pariah nexus currently
.... probably about to beef with vashtorr
meager shoal
bitter eagle
Can’t wait personally
urban flint
urban flint
dense isle
tall rivet
rotund moon
holy crap that is good
dense isle
True
urban flint
vague gust
You guys think we’ll ever get another warhammer RTS and do you think it will include titans like the emperor class/imperator
dense isle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071880005279285340/1357878789367005345...
Yeahhhhhh
meager shoal
hmm a bullet heaven where your piloting a titan agaisnt spawns of the other factions?
vague gust
I was thinking dawn of war style but that would be pretty fun
dense isle
You guys think we’ll ever get another warhammer RTS and do you think it will inc...
Honestly maybe?
Like…. Potentially?
On the Titans point the issue becomes SCALE. An Imperator class titan is uhhh…. Basically a walking city block. And not the baby city blocks you see around in SF. The chonky city blocks.
So you get that. Vs. Literally anything else and it’s a problem. Balance wise they either have to be literally impossible to build in an effective way, or be so piss weak that it feels lore inaccurate.
Remember Space Marine 2. A simple drake, one of Chaos’s better daemon engines, was enough to effectively single handedly stop an entire spacie assault until they got an absurd dreadnaught who was huffing some “lore accurate” cutscene power.
Imperator class titans would look at that drake, laugh, and obliterate it with a random weapon mounted on its back. Not even a main gun.
And remember if that isn’t enough.
There’s always the Psy Titan option.
And those guys make normal Imperators look silly.
vague gust
I mean honestly a game where it’s just titan vs titan would honestly slap
meager shoal
sounds like starcraft 2 issues with the battle cruisers and carriers/mothership, they never felt strong enough
vague gust
Just throw you into the legio titanicus wars during the heresy or just some other time period
dense isle
sounds like starcraft 2 issues with the battle cruisers and carriers/mothership,...
Have you seen the real scale mod?
meager shoal
yup
dense isle
Then you know.
dense isle
Just throw you into the legio titanicus wars during the heresy or just some othe...
Honestly, if it was like a city builder/RTS, where you upgraded the Titan over time by building crap on it…. I’d love it.
vague gust
Oh that would fuck
dense isle
Imperators are large enough it’s viable.
vague gust
Like you get the base imperator body and weapons but you can customize the top city to either be a fortress or something else
meager shoal
dense isle
Oh but of course remember, 2 orks, a grot, and a Squig, in a shock jump dragsta, are a one shot.
meager shoal
imagine a side objective, dont step on allies :p
dense isle
Oh but of course remember, 2 orks, a grot, and a Squig, in a shock jump dragsta,...
In lore they jumped a car into the bridge of an imperator and killed everyone inside.
Twas great
Good orks
vague gust
I think it would be a great concept and just have it be like your wondering some forlorn war torn planet trying to stay well maintained and operational while fighting off chaos legions and chaos knights and titans
vague gust
And when you wipe out titan enemies you get new shit other enemies just drop building materials
But also true GW are turbo cowards to do anything unique
meager shoal
and a side game of keeping the tech priests under control :p
vague gust
Balancing the various machine cult sects lmao
dense isle
and a side game of keeping the tech priests under control :p
“STOP POURING OIL ON THE ENGINE NOOOOOOOO”
static blade
lore makes a lot of inadvisable strategies suddenly a great idea.
vague gust
THE SKITARII DEMAND MORE OIL MARGARITAS! binaric screeching
dense isle
lore makes a *lot* of inadvisable strategies suddenly a great idea.
As I said. Whenever a character is using that “lore accurate” juice some madness can happen
Or when a writer actually gets the lore and has 5 Golden Boys lose to Termagants
Yeah turns out
Golden Spacies get tired too
It just takes a few thousand termagaunts.
static blade
it's a beautiful thing, too. also "the Magos Biologis is whining about a lack of 'volunteers' again"
dense isle
it's a beautiful thing, too. also "the Magos Biologis is whining about a lack of...
God damnit. Find me a new penal colony.
vague gust
Princep I am running low on servitors! Make the menials populate faster
dense isle
meager shoal
hmm could they use heretics as servitors or would that be a security issue?
"release the inquisitors" should be some "chaos" they can find
vague gust
lol
vague gust
AWAKEN THEIR QUIVERING ABS
I loved the pillar custodes
They are great
They also have new series they are good
dense isle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071880005279285340/1357910065784553695...
And? It’s great.
vague gust
Also won’t lie those TTS custodes are the only cannon I accept, they still do their job but like it just makes sense the legion of demigod bros would become weird little dudes after 20000 years of stuck in the house lol
urban flint
Except the house is the size of like a country
vague gust
Exactly
tepid tundra
Just throw you into the legio titanicus wars during the heresy or just some othe...
the belt of iron war would be madness
dewit!
seeing as i see custodes talk it would be insane if we had a 4 squad game during the siege of terra
and you could have terminators those jetpack guys and the heavy gunner bolter disintegration gun guys etc to chose from
dense isle
Pfffffft
dense isle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494998822125043732/1358517928072319178/20...
It’s the same photo
prime summit
Why does this look like a book-headed man with his small iron baby?
rotund moon
Cuz it does
tiny pike
I mean, I can definitely see the resemblance to what you describe. Took me a few seconds to see the "small iron baby", but I definitely saw the "book-headed man" right away.
prime summit
It just looks like the pilot is in one of those front-facing baby carriers that parents wear.
dense isle
Why does this look like a book-headed man with his small iron baby?
Because that’s what it looks like. The Grey Knights Nemesis Dreadknight has always looked absolutely goofy.
static blade
ahh yes, the baby carrier 'armor'. it came up in emperor text-to-speech. such a needlessly silly design. negative presence.
tiny pike
Like, the book head and the giant mace are cool, but the baby carrier is so much negative aura that it ends up being silly.
static blade
Immensely silly.
vague gust
It’s just a really aggressive baby holder
dense isle
Pagan you can only legally field 3 of them it’s time to stop!
tiny pike
I don't need a 5th one
You need a 5th one. 4 is such a lonely number. :P
tall rivet
Pagan you can only legally field 3 of them it’s time to stop!
What do you mean legally?
tiny pike
Point totals, I'd assume.
dense isle
What do you mean legally?
……. The rule of 3?
You can only have 3 duplicates of any given unit (except for battle line in which case you can have 6…. I think. It’s more than 3.)
It’s one of the few things that actively balances this edition
tall rivet
Well that's probably why
My play group does 9th
And even if it still was a rule my group is still pretty chill about it
dense isle
I think it was a thing even in 9th but eh if you just play with your buds it’s probably fine
hushed coyote
@dense isle oi, what armies you play again?
hushed coyote
ey, ork players hows this look
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- FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - Orks
- DETACHMENT: Da Big Hunt
- TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 995pts
- WARLORD: Char1: Beastboss on Squigosaur
- ENHANCEMENT:
- NUMBER OF UNITS: 7
- SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (1x2) + (1x4) + (1x6) - Assassination: 2 Characters
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Char1: 1x Beastboss on Squigosaur (130 pts): Warlord, Beastchoppa, Slugga, Squigosaur’s jaws
Char2: 1x Painboss (70 pts): Grot orderly, Beast Snagga klaw
10x Beast Snagga Boyz (95 pts)
• 1x Beast Snagga Nob: Power snappa, Slugga
• 9x Beast Snagga Boy: 9 with Choppa, Slugga
11x Gretchin (40 pts)
• 10x Gretchin: 10 with Close combat weapon, Grot blasta
• 1x Runtherd: Grot-smacka, Slugga
1x Gargantuan Squiggoth (440 pts): Huge tusks, Kannon
1x Kill Rig (155 pts): ’Eavy lobba, Butcha boyz, Savage horns and hooves, Saw blades, Stikka kannon, Wurrtower
1x Trukk (65 pts): Big shoota, Spiked wheel
dense isle
<@202944248801263616> oi, what armies you play again?
Orks and nidds
dense isle
hows that army look for a crusade
Nidds are okayish. Never played orks.
hushed coyote
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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - Orks
...
Oh I meant hos this look
hushed coyote
rate my army
dense isle
Oh I meant hos this look
ohhhhhhhhhhh.
I mean its okay.
I personally would have invested in more squads.... actually any squads of Squighog Boyz, they can move up the board extremely quickly and are real nasty.
you've got a Trukk. why? if its for the gretchin it shouldn't be. Gretchin belong in the back point (or to be shuffled to a secondary point if you have more squads of them) to give you command points.
GARGANTUAN SQUIGGOTH?! WHY?! thats HALF YOUR LIST. IN A SINGLE MODEL. Another Kill Rig would be better. its essentially the same stats in movement and can buff more of your army on command, not to mention it would give you point totals to let you DIVERSIFY.
Kill Rigs are one of your best tools available and you do not need SIXTY INCHES OF RANGE.
for basically a third of the point total you get what is essentially the same effectiveness model, with more utility and DIVERSITY.
or, you could instead diversify further, instead of another big chunky vehicle, you could get more boyz, bikes, or potentially squighog riders.
I'd take Killacans (which catagorically are terrible within Da Big Hunt subfaction) over 440 points tied up in one model for 1K.
Please Princess. I beg. I plead. don't use the Garg Squiggoth. theres so many beutiful options and potentials, and you are strangling your own lists potential with that glob of points and rot. more buffers, something that can have a wide board presence.
if you truly want to use the Squiggoth then so be it but then you will need to retool the whole list to be actually built around it (which by the way given its forgeworld btw GW is probably going to get rid of it next ed), because your current list is a wonderful start for a Big Hunt army (except the truk) and then theres a Squiggoth there just CONSUMING the points for little to no effective payoff. oh damn Im running out of characters. point being. please diversify. Riders, Bikes, Boyz, Grots, something other than the Squiggoth.
for referance Ohio, 1-2K boards are 44"x60"
with a garg squiggoth you could snipe from essentially corner to corner. there is no point in that much range. the longest diagonal on those boards is 74", and a Garg Squiggoth is probably some 6 odd inches long itself minimum.
the Wurr Tower on a hunta rig has a range of 24 inches, and is a torrent weapon. which means instead of hitting on 5+s like your Squiggoth, it just deals damage. in a 24 inch range. given the fact the kill rig has a movement of 10, and is roughly 6.5 inches long, that means the Wurr Tower (kill rigs best ranged weapon) has an effective range of 40.5 inches. aka basically half the board if you consider now that the deployment zones on most maps are at least 12 inches, if you forward deploy the kill rig, it now has an effective range of 52 inches, or essentially the entire board given that your enemies will likely ALSO forward deploy meaning they will just BE IN RANGE.
Im doing all this math to just point out how absolutely obscene the Squiggoth is, and how absolutely useless it is for this point range. if you had something like Onslaughts 3,000+ points, then probablu sure you could find room for it and a supply of buddies to help it out. but in 1K, its just..... so ludicrous to use. Onslaught also has a larger board size going up to 44"x90" meaning the 60" range gun actually has a purpose.
Ill stop but I hope Ive made my thoughts clear.
dense isle
rate my army
needs more golden boys. unless the naked fools are golden boys.
dense isle
with a garg squiggoth you could snipe from essentially corner to corner. there i...
actually one last thing.
the reason I discourage it so heavily beyond its sheer absurditiy and highly debatable general usefulness, if it dies thats half your list just gone. and it does not have the greatest wound total or saves.
its a big stompy ineffective unit, and you can get similarly big and stompy units for significantly cheaper that are just as if not more effective.
vague gust
rate my army
Hold the hell up are those models of the damned pillar man custodes from TTS XD
What’s the stats on those
Wait do you have kitten in there as well
YOU DO!
He has the mini Magnus feather
dense isle
I dont see Trajann Valoris. I just see a golden boy with a feather.
vague gust
That’s kitten :p
dense isle
this is kitten.
oh no wait he just had his helmet on. silly kitten.
its hard to recognize him without his grouchy face.
and his magnificent axe
dense isle
kitten is great.
vague gust
His mom is is mt.Everest
dense isle
but there is another.
who is also just named Kitten.
one of these days i better see a Trajann Valoris conversion with this sweet beans face on.
vague gust
Hunter the parenting is great
dense isle
fair enough
hushed coyote
ohhhhhhhhhhh.
I mean its okay.
I personally would have invested in more squads...
Big words. Brain ache
Also yes that's my warlord
He is a swordmaster
dense isle
Big words. Brain ache
you have put too much eggs in singular basket. add more baskets.
dense isle
WAIT NO
hushed coyote
IF I DONT DEN IM A CHUMP
dense isle
okay wait nonono hear me out
instead
field more Kill Rigs
whats better than a Squiggoth?
something with KILL in the name.
vague gust
So Ohio what’s what stats for pillar custodes and kitten
hushed coyote
Holdon
dense isle
So Ohio what’s what stats for pillar custodes and kitten
Kitten is Trajann Valores so
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/adeptus-custodes/Trajann-Valoris
theres his stats
vague gust
No they are completely different gurm 
hushed coyote
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- FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Custodes
- DETACHMENT: Shield Host
- TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 975pts
- WARLORD: Char1: Blade Champion
- ENHANCEMENT:
- NUMBER OF UNITS: 6
- SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (1x2) - Assassination: 1 Characters
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Char1: 1x Blade Champion (120 pts): Warlord, Vaultswords
4x Custodian Guard (170 pts): 4 with Guardian Spear
4x Custodian Guard (170 pts): 4 with Guardian Spear
4x Custodian Guard (170 pts): 4 with Guardian Spear
2x Allarus Custodians (130 pts): 2 with Balistus grenade launcher, Guardian Spear
1x Caladius Grav-tank (215 pts): Armoured hull, Twin lastrum bolt cannon, Twin iliastus accelerator cannon
dense isle
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/adeptus-custodes/Custodian-Guard
and then theres custodian guards stats
dense isle
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what do you mean you arent fielding Trajann as kitten.
this is heresy
vague gust
Noice
dense isle
he's the CAPTAIN GENERAL
hushed coyote
BECAUSE ITS KRUSADE
vague gust
I was wondering if they had customs stats for the meme
dense isle
I was wondering if they had customs stats for the meme
nono just proxies
hushed coyote
THATD BE FUNNY
dense isle
proxies are a well accepted tradition
hushed coyote
I should look into that
dense isle
THATD BE FUNNY
have them be shieldhosts
vague gust
IT WOULD
just the pillar custodes have a special feature called awaken my quivering abs
dense isle
shieldhosts yeah that used to be a seperate profile but nah no longer
waitwaitwait
have the naked boiz
have them be dawn eagle jetbike equivilents
vague gust
Oh hey the invincible jet bike captain
dense isle
hushed coyote
I'd have to make them the same size roght?
dense isle
I'd have to make them the same size roght?
base size
vague gust
What is that like 60 move speed, 4 Invul save among other bullshit Kek
dense isle
Yeah I can't control the base size
ripp
dense isle
What is that like 60 move speed, 4 Invul save among other bullshit Kek
12 move
buuuuut
hushed coyote
I mean it's tabletop sim
dense isle
move dash
dense isle
or no its not called dash.....
what is it.....
its not..... no its not charge
or is it?
@hushed coyote you've played more recently you can move then charge yeah?
Ive been playing KT more recently.
hushed coyote
I've never played
hushed coyote
What would you suggest I change them to be if I can swap the bases
dense isle
What would you suggest I change them to be if I can swap the bases
honestly keep them as baseline custodes
legitiamtely
dense isle
like it would be funny to see one screaming across the battlefield. but.... rules wise the baseline boys are probably your best bet
maybe A squad of jetbike
hushed coyote
Would I not have infantry then?
Unless I took the tank out
But I hear tank is good
We are doing increases so I could get more. I wish there was more custom models tho for that
dense isle
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... look I havent played stodes so I just dunno
all I Know is secondhand info, and getting my ass handed to me last ed
so um
good luck?
google at this point knows more than me
hushed coyote
Wut about da boyz
I wanna do a theme
But I hear bikes suck
I thought the snaggas were riders which made me sad
dense isle
I thought the snaggas were riders which made me sad
beast snagga boyz are not riders
the riders are called Squighog Boyz
they are VERY
GOOD
rotund moon
oi i posted that >:(
tall rivet
Oop didn't see
meager shoal
dense isle
I mean. the game is quite short. sometimes you just get roflstompped on turn 1 and then its just over.
tiny pike
I mean. the game is quite short. sometimes you just get roflstompped on turn 1 a...
Or you can be that one guy who did a full map clear on Turn 1.
dense isle
Or you can be that one guy who did a full map clear on Turn 1.
okay how the hell does one even do that?
the current widely used map (that being a fusion of all 3 games and all DLCs) is a titanic beast that is hard to fully conquer within HUNDREDS of turns even on low difficulties, let alone a single turn.
tiny pike
rotund moon
Oop didn't see
oh i wasnt mad just 'grr repost' memeing
tall rivet
Its ok
tall rivet
And there's another one coming out next week
urban flint
urban flint
meager shoal
meager shoal
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A3VyujyHQz0 hmm is traz the ultimate mini collector? now will he start painting them?
bitter eagle
Sad they didn’t show clonegrim
tall rivet
bitter eagle
Hit so hard he became a ultra marine instead of a tson
static blade
Nah, see the tson parry-countered him in the last frame
north hedge
Could I use 30k tech thralls as skitarii for 40K
dense isle
Could I use 30k tech thralls as skitarii for 40K
as long as the bases line up and your opponent consents sure.
if bases are too large also probably okay
the issue comes in when bases are too small
north hedge
Both use 25mm
dense isle
then as long as your opponent knows and consents, no issue.
(most people Ive everp layed with were extremely chill about proxies)
north hedge
I’ll just asking because I’m starting an ad mech army and I don’t want to spend so much money on Vanguard and for cheaper a price of 20 man vanguard squad I can get 20 thralls
urban flint
hushed coyote
rate my anime communists
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- FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - T'au Empire
- DETACHMENT: Experimental Prototype Cadre
- TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 965pts
- WARLORD: Char1: Cadre Fireblade
- ENHANCEMENT:
- NUMBER OF UNITS: 11
- SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (7x2) - Assassination: 3 Characters
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Char1: 1x Cadre Fireblade (50 pts): Warlord, 2x Shield Drone, Close combat weapon, Fireblade pulse rifle
Char2: 1x Commander in Coldstar Battlesuit (95 pts): Shield generator, Marker Drone, Shield Drone, High-output burst cannon, Plasma rifle, Plasma rifle, Battlesuit fists
Char3: 1x Commander in Coldstar Battlesuit (95 pts): Battlesuit support system, Marker Drone, Shield Drone, High-output burst cannon, Plasma rifle, Plasma rifle, Battlesuit fists
10x Breacher Team (100 pts)
• 1x Breacher Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Close combat weapon, Pulse blaster, Pulse pistol, Support turret
• 9x Breacher Fire Warriors: 9 with Close combat weapon, Pulse blaster, Pulse pistol
3x Stealth Battlesuits (60 pts)
• 1x Stealth Shas'vre: Homing beacon, Battlesuit fists, Burst cannon, Twin pulse carbine, Twin pulse carbine
• 2x Stealth Shas'ui: 2 with Battlesuit fists, Burst cannon
3x Stealth Battlesuits (60 pts)
• 1x Stealth Shas'vre: Homing beacon, Battlesuit fists, Burst cannon, Twin pulse carbine, Twin pulse carbine
• 2x Stealth Shas'ui: 2 with Battlesuit fists, Burst cannon
1x Broadside Battlesuits (90 pts): Marker Drone, Shield Drone, Weapon support system, Crushing bulk, Heavy rail rifle, Twin plasma rifle
1x Broadside Battlesuits (90 pts): Marker Drone, Shield Drone, Weapon support system, Crushing bulk, Heavy rail rifle, Twin plasma rifle
1x Broadside Battlesuits (90 pts): Marker Drone, Shield Drone, Crushing bulk, Heavy rail rifle
3x Crisis Sunforge Battlesuits (150 pts)
• 2x Crisis Sunforge Shas’ui
1 with Marker Drone, Shield Drone, Battlesuit fists, 2x Fusion blaster
1 with Battlesuit fists, 2x Fusion blaster
• 1x Crisis Sunforge Shas’vre: 2x Fusion blaster, Battlesuit fists
1x Devilfish (85 pts): Accelerator burst cannon, Armoured hull, 2x Twin pulse carbine
dense isle
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Not enough Kroot. More Kroot.
hushed coyote
Their not trees
dense isle
Fair
hushed coyote
Look lethal enough or should i swap anything
dense isle
sorrrryyyyyyyyy
north hedge
OK, I’m starting an ad Mech army and choose the world of phyrr but I can’t decide what the colours of the robes would be. I don’t know like a bright purple or a bright pink.
rotund moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prw4OBPqO6I
Even more peak
meager shoal
rotund moon
the spoiler is that both of them are awful
tepid tundra
was bout to say his just as bad
dense isle
the spoiler is that both of them are awful
papa nurgle isn't..... a brilliant father..... Ill give you that....
its a close race but I do think papa nurgle wins out because he actually on occation shows affection?
tall rivet
north hedge
velvet stag
I play tacticus, if that counts-
prime summit
Probably under Video Games
bitter eagle
I fit all but Necromunda (I am forever broke)
trim cypress
Dawn of War enjoyer
vague gust
I play dawn of war 1 and 2 to scratch my itch and total war for the age of sigmar itch but also total wars been kinda dieing for me given the needing to own dlc of all 3 games to do some of the cool stuff
ebon spruce
DOW1-2 - All tide games - SM - Inqusitor a bit and mechanicus....i think what's all games on top of my head i played so far.
ebon flume
Deathwing and Space Marine 2 for me, with bits of Vermintide, Gladius, and Darktide.
dense isle
I play…. 40k, kill team, own books and minis for Necromunda, viddy games, and several non rule books.
Currently though I mainly play KT. No Necromunda groups near me to join, and 40k is…. Extremely bulky and draining.
north hedge
I thought playing on tabletop would have more people
inland portal
I've gotten to play a couple times, but not many, mostly because there's no real place I can play around here without a painted army... and due to a mix of my natural anti-talent for being able to paint, coupled with my health issues, I basically can't paint my army
frustrating but oh well
(would much rather play with an unpainted army than whatever abomination I would end up with if I painted them)
dense isle
I've gotten to play a couple times, but not many, mostly because there's no real...
People are being a hardass about needing a painted army?
That’s
Insane.
inland portal
that's how it's been here
I haven't tried in years
but every time, it'd be a... terrible experience,g etting shunned and put down for my black primed necrons
north hedge
My god where I am all that is need to play is the models are built
inland portal
definitely doesn't help with my social anxiety "yay autism"
dense isle
but every time, it'd be a... terrible experience,g etting shunned and put down f...
Awful. I’m so sorry.
inland portal
was happy to learn the battletech community here, while smaller, was far more accepting
you don't even need models or standies
could play with torn pieces of paper with a number (to designate the unit) and a facing arrow
lol
(though I got multiple starter boxes, so I have plenty of minis to play, plus got really into BT... so I have... a lot now, all unpainted, but a lot)
but yeah, I really enjoy WH40k a lot
have been wanting to try it on TTS or something, really wish they'd just make an official digital tabletop for it. But it's Games Workshop, that ain't happening xD
inland portal
Awful. I’m so sorry.
it's alright, I have plenty of other things to play, just super disappointing, really
north hedge
Well if you ever what to play wh40k again from my experience of playing knights is a good army to start do to the fact you can play them as chaos knights or imperial knights and you can allie them into other army’s too
inland portal
I'm not really a space marine guy
it's why the only army I actually built was my necron army
have unbuilt ultramarine and tau armies at my parents house somewhere
I think the tau is half-built
static blade
Welp. Just foundout it's probably not merely a coincidence that one of the ork gods is named Mork, and that there was a show in the 70s with a male alien character of the same name, from "the planet ork"
uneven vine
Mork and Mindy?
static blade
Yupyup
dense isle
is why is wander asking
Wander (due to Chelle) apparently is getting into AOS
dense isle
Age of Sigmar
uneven vine
AHH!
dense isle
Fantasy Warhams
dense isle
Warhammer Fantasy was the old version
They did a giant overhaul, pulled some lore stuff, bada bing bada boom you get AOS.
It’s the same universe ish.
It’s weird
uneven vine
is it considered good or bad? i vaguely remember people disliking it
uneven vine
ah
yeah the only exposure i have to warhammer
is very reluctant 40k
in Rogue Trader
dense isle
Fair
north hedge
Age of Sigmar
uneven vine
is it?
or aren't they like
the same thing
just one is fantasy pauldrons
and one is scifi pauldrons
i hate those pauldrons
north hedge
is it?
They’re not the same universe in older editions. It was hinted that either 40 K was a bottle in the college of Magic on a shelf or that fantasy was on a world that was blocked off by a warp storm but I was more making a joke because I personally prefer 40 K I don’t like AOS
uneven vine
ahh
thats fair
again casual and the art looks very similar
so i assumed it was the same / same concepts and core races/gods between the two
ebon flume
partially correct, to my understanding, the chaos gods are the same
and several of the "unique" races have very similar themes to ones from the other, eg. Necrons and Tomb Kings.
both Egypt-themed skelepeople
uneven vine
isn't the skaven in both?
ebon flume
I think there aren't any Skaven in 40k
Orks are a thing in both. but AFAIK there aren't any lizard people or skaven in 40k, and there aren't any T'au or or Tyranids in Fantasy.
thought you could draw a similarity or two from skaven to tyranids, both being a sort of sentient biological infestation.
though, again to my understanding, the Skaven are kinda similar to orks from 40k, madcap inventor types that make things work despite logically being impossible.
north hedge
I think there aren't any Skaven in 40k
yes they are but as a minor abhuman rase
ebon flume
(I don't know much about the deep lore, I've only played the video games.)
north hedge
it's ok I know about them do to the fact there in necromunda as a minor gang
vague gust
dense isle
I think there aren't any Skaven in 40k
Skaven aren’t in 40k.
dense isle
yes they are but as a minor abhuman rase
RATTLINGS ARE NOT SKAVEN
That’s a rattling
That’s a hobbit
It ain’t a skaven
uneven vine
thats a skaven
vague gust
All round prick
dense isle
I’m going to stab you with a warp crystal
north hedge
RATTLINGS ARE NOT SKAVEN
no not rattling rat men a type of beast men
vague gust
dense isle
Skaven are madmen on the brink of technological insanity, barely comprehending the forces they wield. They are so bountiful if they realized how many they had the VERMINTIDE would start.
dense isle
no not rattling rat men a type of beast men
Also not Skaven
dense isle
dense isle
You never hear of them ever
You occasionally hear of a few but yeah. They’re tiny fractions of other larger groups.
dense isle
These are the Skaven
vague gust
Looks like hobbits to me
dense isle
Looks like hobbits to me
dense isle
uneven vine
yeah those are hobbits
the one with the gun was skaven, clear as day
thats a hobbit
dense isle
You people suck
vague gust
Also will say as much as I think titans are cool in 40k they are also just so impractical the knights though thrive in the big robot but not stupid expensive
Man now I kinda want to play tww3 now again tbh
dense isle
Also will say as much as I think titans are cool in 40k they are also just so im...
Titans are not impractical! How else will we fight ABOMINAUTUS?!
north hedge
Also not Skaven
I know what skaven look like the rat men. Their description is small rat like people who speak with a stutter who in the lower parts, necromunda, and are extremely greedy. and are obsessed with uranium you seriously cannot tell me that is not just skaven but in space
dense isle
I know what skaven look like the rat men. Their description is small rat like pe...
1: not enough of them
2: warp crystal is far more than uranium
3: lack of intelligence
Those are generic rat people
north hedge
To me that sounds a lot like the skaven
dense isle
And I think you are oversimplifying
north hedge
I don’t know the ins and outs of AOS lore so if I’m missing something, let me know
dense isle
I mean basically warp crystal is essentially a magic resource that can bend the laws of reality and gives scaven the ability to commune with their god the Great Horned Rat. Not to mention it lets impossible tech function.
Skaven also just through virulence alone would destroy a hive city in days, not be trapped in its underbelly. By disease or quantity.
I’d say their closest equivalent in 40k right now are the Snakebite orks.
The guys you speak of are a token nod, but they aren’t Skaven
vague gust
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/66/Abominatus.jpg/revisi...
Hasn’t this guy not been seen in like 30 years XD bros been forgotten to the warp
dense isle
Skaven are very much a product of their setting and GW for one reason or another has not deemed them worthy for 40k
dense isle
Hasn’t this guy not been seen in like 30 years XD bros been forgotten to the war...
At least 30 probably closer to 300?
He’s in there
Somewhere
vague gust
I meant real life years XD
dense isle
Along with Vulkan, Raven dude, and some other lore dudes.
dense isle
I meant real life years XD
Ohhhhh
Uhhhhh
Probably more?
He was talked about like…. 3 times ever
And just kinda
Yeeted
Turns out having “a titan beyond all titans fueled by the warp itself” is um…. A bit too much.
vague gust
Vulcan is on respawn timer, Corvus has become a literal shadow bird of rage
dense isle
Vulcan is on respawn timer, Corvus has become a literal shadow bird of rage
Corvus is just in his warp mode. He’ll come back once he murders that one dude.
north hedge
Vulcan is on respawn timer, Corvus has become a literal shadow bird of rage
And Corvus is hunting Lugar
dense isle
Yeah
vague gust
So never
vague gust
Because we know they won’t let him kill lorgar
vague gust
40k has been forced into this weird narrative point of they want to progress but also they can’t because they refuse to kill off any character lol
north hedge
And Leman Ross may come back with the new space wolf codex
dense isle
dense isle
40k has been forced into this weird narrative point of they want to progress but...
Yeahhhh
Well no
They killed bale eye
And then
vague gust
Off screen
dense isle
Didn’t do anything with that
vague gust
And he wasn’t talked about for a while if I remember correctly once ghazgul left for the Octavius war
Yes they did him dirty
north hedge
https://youtu.be/WDFwgOFYF-M?
We all what tts to be canon but it won’t
dense isle
Lore really only seems to happen with each Ed launch now, and it’s so slow.
vague gust
Which we all want his death to cause the galaxies biggest waagh focused solely on angron
dense isle
We all what tts to be canon but it won’t
They’ll be back….. please…… please let them come back
dense isle
Which we all want his death to cause the galaxies biggest waagh focused solely o...
But GW are cowards
vague gust
Yes
Because if they kick off plot it sets the universe into it’s ending arcs
And they don’t want to lose the infinite money machine
north hedge
Which we all want his death to cause the galaxies biggest waagh focused solely o...
And if they kill gaz we can have deman Killa come out of the warp to replace him
vague gust
But they won’t since he’s the ork factions icon
north hedge
Good point but they killed yarik
dense isle
And if they kill gaz we can have deman Killa come out of the warp to replace him
So actually…. Ghaz can’t die
The IDEA of Ghaz is so ingrained into orc psyche that he will just sprout again out of a new ork if he is ever killed
They literally made Ghaz unkillable.
Welcome to GWs forever now. In which no major characters can be killed on screen, and those that do can just get back up.
See: demon primarchs and warp revivals.
north hedge
Oh I did not know that about ghaz
dense isle
Ye
Or at least that’s what the local ork heads tell me
And honestly…. I’d believe it
prime summit
is why is wander asking
Chelle wants to be a genuine fan of something again, and latched onto Warhammer Age of Sigmar because:
A- it’s got a faction filled with tree golems that she’s wanted for purely aesthetic reasons for years.
B- It has absurdly deep lore.
C- She can paint the minis herself.
D- We found a starter set for 40% off and keep finding other sets + novels on sale so it’s hard to say no.
AoS also has the Spearhead system, which is vaguely akin to MtG’s premade Commander decks for a reasonably balanced introduction to the series.
dense isle
Spearhead/Combat Patrol are a great way to get started. I hear the spearheads are far better balanced compared to Combat Patrols.
ComPat in 40k is a jagged mess.
prime summit
Ah, shame.
I really like how they've handled Spearhead (at least from reading the book), so I was hoping Combat Patrol would be comparable.
dense isle
It’s decent enough but most of the time I personally prefer just doing a 1k game. ComPat has the issue where the boxes are so woefully unbalanced baseline, that they invented brand new statblocks and rules for everything that is somehow…. Even less balanced.
Whoever is responsible for 40ks balance…. Uhhhh…. Doesn’t always seem to understand how the game is actually played.
And we know it’s a different team from AOS. That’s been confirmed multiple times over.
Back when I joined I think each combat patrol box was meant to be around 500 points so 2 people could pick any 2, and have a good brawl.
Issue was through balance changes and… just general dumbassery there was the admech box worth around 300 points, vs some of the best like the Death Guard box at around 800.
Instead of fixing any of this, this ed they invented the new rules, which as I noted, didn’t fix anything.
As I said. Jagged mess.
bitter eagle
The new death guard one also looks far worse than the current one imo
Like i was expecting the new combat patrol release to try balance it but it doesn’t seem to be the case
dense isle
Yeah. They’ve taken the excuse that it’s a different format, and so care about balance even LESS now.
static blade
So which faction is wander feeling out at the moment?
dense isle
I know Chelle has latched onto the trees and bugs of the sylvaneth
true wren
AoS also has the Spearhead system, which is vaguely akin to MtG’s premade Comman...
Everything I've heard about spearhead is that it's a great system
and from a modeling perspective is very fun because you don't have to commit to a single huge army and get a decent variety of models per spearhead
I've mostly drifted off games workshop in general (I've been looking at other miniature lines like Infinity and Malifaux recently) but I'm always tempted by new spearheads
tepid tundra
I mean basically warp crystal is essentially a magic resource that can bend the ...
its basically crystalized chaos magic
and then we dont talk about the new chaos infused ore in age of sigmar that is even more extreme with what it does
both are still cool as hell though
prime summit
So which faction is wander feeling out at the moment?
I’m pretty much pidgeonholed into Stormcast at the moment. They’re in almost every duo pack/spinoff board game and Chelle doesn’t want em, so now I’ve got an army of them.
static blade
ahh, I understand. Stormcast just kinda pops up in every collection at some point.
dense isle
I’m pretty much pidgeonholed into Stormcast at the moment. They’re in almost eve...
fair enough.
static blade
I must confess I've not even touched AoS, myself.
urban flint
Everything I know about it is from the Total War game
dense isle
Everything I know about it is from the Total War game
TLDR: Stormcasts are basically dudes clad in magical storm armour and literally ODST drop into battles to do stuff. you become one by dying in glorious combat. think of it as proactive Valhalla.
also their "helmets" look really dumb (to me)
yeah yeah its their actual body reforged in the storm yada yada, GIMME SOME FULL HELMS
bitter eagle
I’m pretty much pidgeonholed into Stormcast at the moment. They’re in almost eve...
Classic sigma marines
bitter eagle
Everything I know about it is from the Total War game
There’s a aos total war
tepid tundra
are you sure about that
bitter eagle
I meant it as a question as didn’t think there was
tepid tundra
i dont expect it but i have been saying if they did do another warhammer game after it probably would be age of sigmar
i know people want 40k but i keep seeing age of sigmar as more likely
bitter eagle
Fair enough
dense isle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1121852785529466880/1363997373877059606...
adorable.
dense isle
https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-jim-carrey-raised-e-yebrow-gif-12235256
Ace Ventura has to be the best dumbest detective movie Ive ever seen
urban flint
They stole it too, they don’t have the source
dense isle
so rude
static blade
got into a really in-depth discussion on the nature of chaos and the primarchs with my brother last night. lasted over 3 hours going over each aspect of chaos, and how each primarch compares to them.
dense isle
neato
static blade
was a fun time
tall rivet
I dunno man I think your missing some more dakka
tidal temple
this dude wields the dakka of 8 Battle Brothers and 12 Terminators, for all intents and purposes this is all the dakka I can attach before bits become unusable
this is within vrchat and my legacy might just be "the dude that made Capitan Textureless"
solemn mason
Finally
dense isle
glorious
bitter eagle
this dude wields the dakka of 8 Battle Brothers and 12 Terminators, for all inte...
Duplicate the top gun for the 2 side ones to get 16 more assault cannons
tidal temple
I personally would rather not cross over to the point of no return
bitter eagle
Fair
dense isle
this is within vrchat and my legacy might just be "the dude that made Capitan Te...
I mean, thatt’d be a rad legacy.
dense isle
Cute
north hedge
prime summit
dense isle
Nice
meager shoal
dense isle
good ol alpha legion
rotund moon
playing darktide again
static blade
Ahh recon las, my baby
meager shoal
tiny pike
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128458474500653056/1369651446613671956/20...
Only a quarter of a million? Man, the dwarves must be extra lazy today, if that few clanrats were able to take out four of them.
dense isle
Im sorry the new SM2 mission, is for killing a TRIGON.
one of the largest ground units tyranids have. that is essentially a siege breaker among siege breakers. burrowing. psionic powers. claws. acid. gigantism.
and 3 blueberries are gonna kill that
uhuh
sure
vague gust
Shhhh gurm
It’s ultramarines
We are the we get it done peeps, even if it should be impossible it will get done
dense isle
The “get it done” peeps aren’t the ultrasmurfs though
They barely do anything
The get er done groups are like, the angels of death. And the black templars. And the grey knights!
Dark angels. Not angels of death.
dense isle
The LotD do more!
dense isle
We are the poster children
Only RECENTLY
vague gust
Ehhh yesnt
vague gust
They’ve always had a bit more content but it used to be more equal yes
dense isle
WHEN THE PEWTER WAS TASTY
I think dark angels used to be the poster children.
But the blueberries have been on top a very long time now
vague gust
WHEN THE PEWTER WAS TASTY
Was that back when you still used floppy disks ;p
tepid tundra
Im sorry the new SM2 mission, is for killing a TRIGON.
yep a prime too
also dont think its as big as the ones usually are
north hedge
OK, I can’t currently right now repainting my dark eldar army and I can’t decide between white, gold, purple and magenta
dense isle
purple and magenta.
meager shoal
tiny pike
OK, I can’t currently right now repainting my dark eldar army and I can’t decide...
Why not all 4?
Drukhari are well known to embrace gaudiness and excess, after all.
bitter eagle
and 3 blueberries are gonna kill that
It will be 3 of any faction as is operations but still
tall rivet
Three custodies should be able to kill just about anythint anything
flat halo
It’s ultramarines
Why can't it be Vulcan's boys? They deserve more attention
meager shoal
3 man squad of men ofiron time?
dense isle
Three custodies should be able to kill just about anythint anything
Custodes technically aren’t space marines.
They’re essentially micro primarchs
Each individually HANDCRAFTED by big E
dense isle
Fair. Although I think a full squad of stodes were eventually overwhelmed by gaunts one time
Turns out
It doesn’t matter how powerful you are
Multiple million termigaunts will EVENTUALLY kill you.
meager shoal
like the kreig, gonna bury you, alvie or dead
north hedge
Ok My group is hosting a crusade and I can’t describe what army to bring the two army’s I have are Dark eldar and genestealer cult
tall rivet
Genestealers are the funniest option
north hedge
Genestealers are the funniest option
I know but I don’t like the change to the ambush ability
bitter eagle
Ok My group is hosting a crusade and I can’t describe what army to bring the two...
Whichever you find fun
bitter eagle
I know but I don’t like the change to the ambush ability
It’s still really good but fair
dense isle
urban flint
tiny pike
I'm with Grampa Simpson here. "Star Military" just doesn't sound as badass.
dense isle
Yup
meager shoal
dense isle
Orktron would DESTROY the Knightzord.
meager shoal
flat halo
who would win?
Winner fights The Bosnian Knight? :D
prime summit
I know this is mostly 40k here, but I just found out about the Combat Patrol/Stormbringer magazine and good lord is this a great deal: https://www.hachettecollections.com/en-us/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-stormbringer/
Lotta kits that normally sell for 30-60 for $15 + a magazine.
dense isle
Neato.
tiny pike
I know this is mostly 40k here, but I just found out about the Combat Patrol/Sto...
I mean, it's Warhammer + 40k, not just Warhammer 40k.
Age of Sigmar is part of the Warhammer umbrella.
prime summit
As a goof, we found out that this issue has just the torso + legs for one of Chelle's minis, which works out really well for her since the normal kit comes with torso + legs + different sets of arms.
So we snagged two of them.
urban flint
tidal temple
Incredibly odd to see the super niche part of the Warhammer community out in the wild
this is the type of stuff I interact with normally
flat halo
Holy crap that absolutely killed me. This is the kind of quality content I come for.
dense isle
Hell yes.
tidal temple
prime summit
If I wanted to get into 40k Kill Team, what would I need?
Namely I'm curious about the cards, since they're limited stock.
dense isle
If I wanted to get into 40k Kill Team, what would I need?
for the cards: absolutely not you do not need them.
expanding beyond that
theres an app that contains the BASIC rules, and up to date rules for your team. its called "Kill Team: The App" (profound name I know)
you'll need your dudes outside of that app, dice, terrain (actual specific terrain Ill explain later), a ruler or measuring tape, and a mission pack.
your dudes are easy enough thats the plastic minis. dice also easy, D6s you have hundreds of these probably. a ruler or measruing tape is because this entire game franchise is done in inches and having something good and flexible is needed as the official stuff is kinda bad.
terrain! so, each edition of killteam and each big release has come with new official terrain and rules for these terrain. I don't reccomend buying official, but to play killteam as intended, or to use basically any community generated content, getting terrain that is close enough is reccomended. theres loads of online sources for 3d printing, or you can use your artistic tallent to build your own.
for once I truly reccomend using the official layouts (or community revised layouts) because trying to jank together terrain as is tradition for 40k and warhammer does not end well in kill team.
tokens are where we get funky. if you can find an official source of these (or a set of 3d printed ones) have at it. but not all of this can be represented by dice. wounded tokens arent really needed but the stuff you do need are:
activation tokens for engage and conceal.
tokens for grenades, smoke and otherwise.
tokens for mission points.
tokens for your secondaries.
additionally for the universal equipment you will want accurate models for those because they are in fact done in specific sizes, you can also google these for your purposes to build your own.
I think. that roughly. covers the basics. I hope.
oh god right I forgot about mission packs
this. this thing. you will want one of these.
it contains what you need to select stuff at the start of the game (and while you don't technically need it it makes it SIGNIFICANTLY easier than rifling through the books/the app)
but no the data sheet card packs I believe are all already out of date
dense isle
But do I need these: https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/kill-team-datacards-hi...
these specifically are out of date due to balance updates.
as are my real life physical books which brings me great pain because I am a fiend for the tactile.
static blade
good to see someone else taking interest in the mecha-boney bois, tho
dense isle
but I do hope that covers all your initial kill team questions feel free to ping me with more.
I primarily play Vespid Stingwings though so Im not great with specific team rules, but the generics I have a solid grasp on. or at least I like to think so.
prime summit
I'm seriously considering picking up the AoS: Ossiarch Bonereaper sets and painting them to look kinda like Necrons.
They're like, 80% of the way there.
dense isle
sounds like a sweet conversion.
prime summit
But medieval.
Oh yeah, I could probably use them as proxies easy.
If I went mad I could probably kitbash the two and make some real neat stuff.
But that's pricey.
dense isle
yeah
the only issue I forsee is I think killteam line of sight relies on the physical models themselves, but as long as you get the shapes and sizes close enough nobody will care.
prime summit
I'll probably still get the Killteam set too.
I just need to find a set Chelle likes to convince her to try it.
Problem is she's only interested in the Aeldari & Tyranids.
Er, Drukhari
Probably way down on the wishlist. I've got a lot of other junk to buy.
dense isle
wander I have
some excellent news
theres a tyranid kill team coming..... eventuallyish
but its been anounced
so it IS coming
its just not here yet.
the aeldari do in fact have a few kill teams currently available though.
oh drukhari.
hm
yes that also exists.
Hand of the Archon
they've got a bird
prime summit
Yeah, I'll probably pick up Kill Team: Typhon
Hopefully it's bundled with terrain + the rulebooks.
That's how we got into AoS/Spearheads with Skaventide.
dense isle
it is.
at least thats how every otehr major kill team box release has worked
and it certainly appears from the anouncement material that it should be no different
urban flint
dense isle
https://fixupx.com/mick19988/status/1924030387132702948?s=46&t=YJDwT4YnrYKmzJrQ_...
BAHAHAHAHAHA
north hedge
as a knights player I hate this
shell wind
The clips of Kriegsmen in the background fits so well.
dense isle
SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!
north hedge
SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!
tidal temple
The Orkblitorator is a fun idea
north hedge
The Orkblitorator is a fun idea
tiny pike
The real cringe is that you're claiming the Emperor has 4 arms, when he obviously only has 3.
north hedge
The real cringe is that you're claiming the Emperor has 4 arms, when he *obvious...
no he has four
dense isle
I assure you he has 3 legs.
tiny pike
We're talking about his arm count, not his leg count.
north hedge
no two
dense isle
We're talking about his arm count, not his leg count.
okay fair. he also has 3 arms.
meager shoal
any tails?
urban flint
wispy pilot
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-19055033
i literally always first think of this meme before anything else
bitter eagle
any tails?
At least 5
solemn mason
12 bucks too
(For reference, Vermintides new classes are 5 dollars)
but i am curious how an Arbites is going to become a Reject
like, what kind of crimes they could have commited
and how/why they get to keep th dog
dense isle
12 bucks too
god damnit
solemn mason
Owlcat's making a new game
https://fixupx.com/OwlcatGames/status/1925597690001301978?s=19
dense isle
Type to kill boltgun that’s awesomeeeee
tepid tundra
but i am curious how an Arbites is going to become a Reject
there probably not
there probably an arbites that actualy showed up
tidal temple
I have a feeling GW really likes Arbites
They have their own game and also have their own dlc in two other 40k games
bitter eagle
I mean it makes sense there a fairly easy thing to add into most games
tepid tundra
their own game?
i cant really google to refresh myself on that cause all i find is the DLC stuff
tidal temple
might not be the Arbites specifically but you do go around with a robo pupper
ah nevermind it was Necromunda
robo dog made me think they were the same type of character
tender egret
static blade
Ooh, that last one implies either the enemy is starchild, or bad enough big E healed himself enough to get up
dense isle
oh.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhnoooooooooooooooooooooo................
prime summit
Got my Skulls Festival box... right after I set up Gaia Project on my recording table.
Looks like I've got a Kill Team box for the Exaction Squad in it.
They any good?
dense isle
lemme ask my kill team buds, they'd know more.
static blade
no idea, I haven't technically played kill team. seems a normal number of units, though, just browsing the store
I've seen a few sessions played through, though
dense isle
according to my own research and what Ive been told, they're a kill team with some good tricks if you know what you're doing. able to shoot in melee is pretty good. good tchankage with shields. good strats and ploys too.
if you want to commit to them, you can do work.
tepid tundra
im just happy we finally get to see disintegrators
even large ones too on the terminators etc
north hedge
So I’m going to the game con tournament in Edmonton and I have two armies and I can’t decide on which one to bring imperial knights or genestealer cults
tiny pike
urban flint
dense isle
Heeeeeh
north hedge
prime summit
My first casualties.
Snapped the cape off a Skaven trying to push his pieces in place.
The stormcast on the other hand refused to accept their leg and the peg just snapped off in its hole.
Easy fix with glue, but frustrating.
dense isle
Been there. Yeah.
Spindly lil buggers
For push fit minis I’ve personally seen success with just snipping off the pegs if they’re being difficult.
tidal temple
My first casualties.
The the kitbash bin they go
prime summit
Can’t do that. These are underworlds minis and I’d rather fix them than replace them.
knotty mango
Speaking of which
bitter eagle
Push fit minis are always a bit terrible especially the coloured plastic ones
knotty mango
I was quite pleasantly surprised by how much push-fit minis have improved over the years, my experience comes from the 8th and 10th edition starter sets and they're night and day difference
bitter eagle
Ohh yer my underworlds team was also fairly good even outriders vs the 10th starter is way better
knotty mango
The 8th ones have some nasty gaps at times while the 10th ones snap firmly even with some more dynamic posing compared to the static looking ones of the 8th minis
bitter eagle
Yer outriders are a 9th Ed starter set kit
prime summit
Yeah my Shadespire minis snapped together without any effort.
But the older sets were a nightmare.
tiny pike
Honestly, the casualties being Skaven is entirely thematic to Skaven.
And Stormcast are sometimes fragile due to bad creation rituals, so they make sense too.
meager shoal
prime summit
Gonna finally put together my non-push fit minis tonight. Anyone got advice?
static blade
Patience and hold onto the far half of the about to be glued parts, no matter how awkward the handling, it's better than gluing them to what's holding them.
dense isle
Gonna finally put together my non-push fit minis tonight. Anyone got advice?
patience, dry test the fit, and theres no such thing as too much glue. unelss you glue your hand to the mini in which case you used too much glue.
that aside, be ready to shave down some parts, and or snip away at stray bits. not every mold gives out clean parts, and many others have decayed with time leading to a worse fit than intended. this happened to me personally with my Kill Rigs, where tolerances were out of whack and I had to jank together numerious sections.
so, just be prepared. you'll be fine. we've all been through it before. keep a cool head, some good background noise, and get into a groove.
static blade
also the glue trimmming knife is a khornate spy. it can and will cut you if you don't keep it a respectable distance from your fingers. nearly lost half my thumbnail to the little bugger one time
dense isle
Yowch
meager shoal
dense isle
damn.
tiny pike
Truly a shame that the kid had to learn he was an orphan that way.
chrome steppe
God's gift to warhammer. The lads
meager shoal
urban flint
north hedge
I made a 1000 point tau army I what to know is it too powerful or no. What in it is 3 ghostkeels 2 stealth suits 2 breathers 1 fire warrior and lead by a cadre
dense isle
I made a 1000 point tau army I what to know is it too powerful or no. What ...
It’s 1000 points. Everything is “too powerful” at that range.
wispy pilot
tiny pike
The planet fell. The guard did not.
dense isle
Cadia didn’t stand. The guard did.
north hedge
urban flint
dense isle
The Tau have fit in with the universe for years now
Also, get Calhuyned guardsmen.
I’m not spelling that right. But. Point stands.
solemn mason
"Big robots dont fit"
Said the imperium player
with the knights
solemn mason
Imperium has TWO different orders of Big Robot xd
Knights & all their varients and i guess Castellans too
dense isle
"Big robots dont fit"
Said the imperium player
with the knights
Not only the imperium player, the imperium player who can legally soup in knights.
tiny pike
Not only the imperium player, the imperium player who can legally soup in knight...
Well yeah, it's obviously okay when humanity does it. But not the "filthy xenos". /s
dense isle
Of course……
tepid tundra
Wtf is a titanicus doing then
its the organization of the mechanicus that governs titans
indigo sparrow
Wtf is a titanicus doing then
Point sink
dense isle
4000 point model in a game that only has rules that go up to 3000
bitter eagle
And is standard to play at 2k and tbh I feel a 2k list could beat a warlord (a warlord is 3500 points) as you need to score objectives lol
tiny pike
dense isle
Heeeeeeh
static blade
I remember that livestream
north hedge
Is the pendant Crusade battle force box worth it if I’m starting a sister of battle army?
dense isle
Add up the points v dollar value?
I don’t know sisters that well.
north hedge
The place I’m looking at has it for 280 and it has 680 points in the box is that good or bad?
tiny pike
Depends on how big of point games you want to play.
dense isle
The place I’m looking at has it for 280 and it has 680 points in the box is that...
what is traditionally played is 2000 points.
so thats 300 bucks for about 1/3rdish of a team
bitter eagle
I also believe the models In it are very playable
prime summit
I think I have an obsession.
Also put in an order for Kill Team: Typhon so I can give that mode a shot.
dense isle
Also put in an order for Kill Team: Typhon so I can give that mode a shot.
Nice. KT is great.
dense isle
I think I have an obsession.
Wander, you don’t have 5,000+ points if anything yet. You’re fine.
prime summit
Yeah, I think I'm up to roughly 2.5k in points across my spearheads.
dense isle
Do I actually need the terrain set for KT?
Typhon comes with terrain. There are premade maps that are fairly well balanced and what is typically played in more competitive circles, but you can just, make your own terrain and stuff.
static blade
I mean... boney boyos are always a good time.
dense isle
Typhon comes with terrain. There are premade maps that are fairly well balanced ...
Making one’s own terrain is more of a wargame thing, but I’m sure in a few years squad based modes will become more accepting of it.
static blade
As for proper terrain, I've done skirmishes on pop cans, binders, and old dnd terrain just fine
dense isle
Yeah.
tiny pike
To be fair, you need a lot of terrain with wargame.
Not quite as much with squad-based.
dense isle
To be fair, you need a *lot* of terrain with wargame.
KT also needs a surprising amount. But true.
prime summit
AoS has much lower terrain requirements
So we're spoiled over there.
Just a couple of walls/fences mostly.
IIRC line of sight is also waaaaaaaaaaay less fiddly.
tiny pike
AoS is more real-life-scale battles, at wargame levels, though, unlike 40k which is having stuff the size of buildings like the Hagia Sophia (but actually it's more like ten of the Hagia Sophia) moving around the battlefield.
prime summit
That's only some versions of 40k from what I can tell.
Most of those giga models aren't exactly legal.
Or at least not practical.
dense isle
That's only some versions of 40k from what I can tell.
Yeah 40k technically has rules for a lot but is never actually played.
Like as I gave Ohio crap for a month or 2 ago, the giant giga Squig for orks is a terrible model without a practical purpose outside of like, special game modes.
tiny pike
Like as I gave Ohio crap for a month or 2 ago, the giant giga Squig for orks is ...
Counterpoint: It's a really big Squig. And by Ork logic, that means it's an extremely powahful Squig.
dense isle
It is very powerful. It’s also like 1500 points into a single big target that will get shot off the board instantly.
It’s great, if you can support it, which you can’t in 2k.
tiny pike
Ork Logic dictates that big Squig is powahful, and that is all that matters.
dense isle
Anywho the point I’m trying to make is in KT like half the board is terrain. Because shooting is nasty. And melee teams need a chance in hell against that. As Wander is getting the Raveners box, he will learn this lesson well as the Ravs are 99% melee by volume.
Typhon. Whatever silly name they gave it.
dense isle
The admech are there too and they seem shooty
The admech rules legitimately look fire. The nidds aren’t where I’d want them but I’m certain there’s play there. It’s a good box.
bitter eagle
I haven’t played the new kill team yet as it realesed as I got into the old one so am a bit uncertain on if I should buy the rules or wait (I know there is minimum 2 years of life in this one but still meh on it)
Also am getting into Horus heresy properly just as the new edition was announced so that’s fun
dense isle
So I never played the old KT but I can tell you that I personally find it fun. The rules between teams so far has been fairly competitive, although many require a lot more pushing to get up to par.
bitter eagle
Fair would probably continue to run beast men as they seem better than before
dense isle
Although elite teams have been…. Very dominant. Who knew getting 3 actions in one turn was good.
dense isle
Fair would probably continue to run beast men as they seem better than before
That would be Felgor Ravagers and yeah. They’re pretty nice.
Turns out being too angy to die is a great benefit.
bitter eagle
Yer I forget there actual name lol
dense isle
Too many names.
bitter eagle
Turns out being too angy to die is a great benefit.
Always has been lol
bitter eagle
Too many names.
At least i didn’t say marine kill team
dense isle
Positive news there’s only 2 of those right now. I think. Generic spacies, and papa nurgles boys
And papa nurgle has some potent sugar babies rn.
bitter eagle
Ohh i thought there was the phobus
dense isle
….. wait is there?
bitter eagle
I’d probably put dg for dg
dense isle
I honestly dunno at this point. There might be but as you may know they shredded all of the extended teams.
bitter eagle
Also warpcoven if we include chaos
dense isle
Yer phobus strike team lol
Oh damn u right.
dense isle
Also warpcoven if we include chaos
Oh god right them
Okay
Yeah see my memory blurs all the spacies together
They’re dudes in armour and they much hurty.
bitter eagle
6 total looking at the app
bitter eagle
Not including scouts
tiny pike
7 god damned teams, and not ONE are my golden boys
Gold is too expensive for a tiny little startup like Games Workshop. 
bitter eagle
7 god damned teams, and not ONE are my golden boys
I didn’t include cultist btw
dense isle
bitter eagle
As there is 3(?) cultist teams
I’m not including Beastmen in that but there also CSM codex
bitter eagle
Ohh then it’s just 7 as rest are humans or abhumans lumped under the CSM name
dense isle
Fair enough
tiny pike
shell wind
I cannot wait for this, the 23rd is too far away. The Arbites just gives AURA in this image.
tiny pike
I mean, RoboCopJudgeDredd w/ cyborg dog is obviously going to have strong aura.
Not to mention the fact that said RoboCopJudgeDredd is also the tax man.
tiny pike
(Arbites collect the Imperial Tithe, is what I mean by "tax man" btw.)
shell wind
Finally did some Darktide modding. Kept it pretty minimal, but little things like true level are cool to have. Picked up the scoreboard and other qol things like that.
prime summit
I put together 40 Skaven Clanrats tonight. All push-fit. My fingers are so tender. 
rotund moon
owie
tepid tundra
Not to mention the fact that said RoboCopJudgeDredd is also the tax man.
necromunda they just have a tax man that will eventually get a model in game
for necromunda not darktide
wispy pilot
I put together 40 Skaven Clanrats tonight. All push-fit. My fingers are so tende...
Pics please 🙏🏻
I forgot to take off the reply ping I think … I’m sorry
tiny pike
RIP Urutta. Dead due to not turning off reply ping. :P
wispy pilot
dense isle
He will be missed.
tiny pike
Now the question: Open Casket or Closed Casket funeral?
dense isle
Well, as you can observe this was a form of begging.
The only option is a jar.
tiny pike
Yeah. Open casket (jar visible) or closed casket (jar not visible)?
dense isle
Ah. Hm. That is far more difficult.
tiny pike
It's already happened. You're now a ghost.
dense isle
havnt felt anything yet
thats the point.
solemn mason
dense isle
Scoob could 1v1 a daemonhost.
tiny pike
Scoob could 1v1 a daemonhost.
But only if he's got an active Scooby Snack buff.
dense isle
Well yeah obviously
tiny pike
Without the buff, he could outrun the Daemonhost, but not 1v1 it.