Tears of the Kingdom

[leaden oracle]

lol

Also when in doubt about bowls :
Banana it is

[glossy dock]

Yeah banana or apple

[lavish yew]

If it looks like Yiga, banan.
If it looks like Korok, apple.

[cold sky]

Further clarification

If it looks like Korok, it might need a golden apple

I had one puzzle only solve after I tried a golden apple instead of a red apple

[glossy dock]

Yiga are ones with sheikah eyes yeah

?

[humble pagoda]

sheikah eyes, but upside down.

[glossy dock]

Oh then what are the frogs w Rightside up eyes

[vocal pebble]

?

sheikah

yiga

[glossy dock]

I could have sworn i saw a frog with a sheika eye and a dish but maybe i'm mistaken

[deep dawn]

Yeah I've seen them around. Not been able to get them to do anything.

[vocal pebble]

||just learned you can beat colgera with no weapons||

[humble pagoda]

||it's a wild ride to time things right, though.||

[fading axle]

its part of a sidequest. they become marked and important when the sidequest needs them to be used. don't worry about them for now.

[deep dawn]

Worry

[fading axle]

||theres a door near a waterfall in the desert where a yiga blademaster opens it if you wear the full yiga set, he says "hey brodouski please put these 6 nanners into these 6 things and Ill call you a blademaster. PS: theres a shrine behind me" and link being link does the deed, gets the shrine. all the shrines get marked upon begining the quest, and you get the shrine afterwards.||

thats the quest

stop worrying.

[deep dawn]

Wopey

[cold sky]

Either way

One of the frogs statues only solved with a golden apple

So I'm not sure whether it was a minor glitch, and just didn't want to accept any of my regular apples, or some of them require gold apples instead of red apples

[fading axle]

[sour anchor]

okay but they are not frogge, they are three pillar looking things which gives me no clues about what to put in it

[warm mantle]

maybe they need the golden korok poop from the first game? :p

[warm mantle]

https://twitter.com/bran8bit/status/1667539615413334017 from cade in wholesome

bran (@bran8bit)

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[sour anchor]

takes me a minute to recalibrate back to "just because other people put in much more effort into their creations doesn't mean my way of play isn't valid!" after these

that's okay control-stick-and-two-fans, it's not a competition <3

[humble pagoda]

but do you attach the fans to the sides, or to the front and back?

[fading axle]

Well, so the thing there is that the control stick doesn’t have side snap on points

[runic mortar]

everyone is doing the stick and 2 fans trick

[fading axle]

Making actually attaching something well very hard.

[runic mortar]

hell if anyone attempts to argue against that design they need to be slapped cause its one of the best simple designs

[sour anchor]

I have both the to-the-sides and front-and-back variants

I think I like the goblin glider configuration better

[fading axle]

I like my triple fan build.

[sour anchor]

I also have a ground vehicle made of a sled, four big wheels, a control stick and a lamp but it's like 27 zonaite and doesn't go as far as two-fans-and-a-stick :/

I wonder if you can build a motorcycle somehow

[fading axle]

You can.

People have done it, just really expensive.

I just do a one wheel.

It speed.

[runic mortar]

im probably going to be insane and focus on getting lots of zonaite ore and the batteries just so i can mess about as I explore about

[fading axle]

Batteries (the peaceable kind) are worthless.

You get MORE than enough regenerative battery to do anything

[runic mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

full maximum battery charge for maximum annihilation!

[sour anchor]

imagine my feelings when I trade in 100 whatevers to get another battery segment but actually it's a third of a segment, lmao owned

[vocal pebble]

also the big zonai cores not only give you a while of no energy cost, but also fully recharges spent energy

[fading axle]

The ore is REALLY easy to get, and you should really only spend large chunks on power boosts.

[sour anchor]

yeah I know

I'm doing some minecraft action in my zelda atm (spend an hour+ mining diamonds with a pick that keeps breaking so you better bring several)

[humble pagoda]

or, get the master sword back and use it with a rock to mine better than almost anything

[fading axle]

Or just use your mech.

Mech breaks deposites in 1 hit

Just not bombable walls

[sour anchor]

I have no info on sord or mech yet, no spoiling

||I did find a "mech factory" just randomly wandering around in the dark but all the buttons went 'bzzzt! no!' when I tried to get them to dispense mech bits||

[fading axle]

||yeah Thattle be useful later. No spoilers beyond that.||

Explore at your own pace, do what you like. All will be revealed in time.

Or brute force puzzles.

I like brute force.

[sour anchor]

spent 45 minutes trying to find a goddamn light root in a cul de sac only to realize that the lightroot for that area is BEHIND the wall, I would like to submit a complaint to the zonai in charge of Depths infrastructure for violating common sense, laws of physics

[fading axle]

Water go brrrrrrr

[humble pagoda]

yup. erosion is a hell of a drug

[sour anchor]

is there a playtime counter anywhere

[fading axle]

Yes. Go to your switch profile.

It won’t give an exact count until you go over 10 hours I think?

[sour anchor]

there have definitely been more than 10 hours lol

[fading axle]

Then it should be in your profile.

[lavish yew]

Over a single hour, and if you hit 999, it just stops counting up.

[fading axle]

Click your face orb from the Home Screen

[fading axle]

Well that’s worthless.

Although I think the saves within Zelda track playtime?

I THINK

[lavish yew]

It will still order the games by which have the most playtime, even if multiple have hit 999 hours, though.

[fading axle]

So it still counts

But doesn’t display?!

WHY

[lavish yew]

Because Nintendo and Technology have a very antagonistic relationship.

[sour anchor]

man I have entirely too many open world type games going. totk, cyberpunk, ghostwire, jedi survivor, everspace 2 I swear it never ends

elden ring, sonic frontiers. both installed. i even FORGOT about them

[fading axle]

Because open worlds are the big AAA thing now, and no one wants to do something simple but well anymore.

[sour anchor]

counterpoint: hifi rush, scars above <3

[fading axle]

2 vs…. 5+

I’m pretty certain my point stands.

[sour anchor]

.. yeah I'm just trying to keep my denial

so hey did you hear about redf

[tranquil star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955961275236622377/1117972998037708800/nqjq90cgnx4b1.png

[glossy dock]

yes perfect

[sour anchor]

pya!

have you ever been so tired you'd rather get repeatedly smashed with a large boulder than get up

[fading axle]

Koroks just lazy

[sour anchor]

||it's 5:30am and all the chickens in this village starting clucking and running up the same path guys I'm FREAKING OUT||

[lavish yew]

||Cuckoos share 1/2 a brain cell among the entire species.||

[fading axle]

||it’s part of a quest||

||follow them.||

[sour anchor]

||secret cuccoo hideout discovered what is even happening in this game||

[fading axle]

Things.

[sour anchor]

it took a decade but I finally have my radiant AI

[fading axle]

Radiant what?

[sour anchor]

NPCs that have schedules

and you can follow them like a complete creep as they wake up and go about their day

[fading axle]

Ah

The fish also move out of the way.

[vocal pebble]

huh

just spotted a star fragment, and as i sailed to grab it, another one nearly punted me out the sky

[fading axle]

kek

[sour anchor]

I managed to grab one out of the sky because it passed close to me while I was scoutin'

I kinda wanna sell it but I'm deathly afraid that I'll later discover you need 50 for a quest or what have you

[limpid vigil]

I was given knowledge unparalleled

||If you put a ruby on ashield it explodes when you guard, without hurting you||

[sour anchor]

||same with bomb flower||

welp TOTK really trained my brain to consider ceilings and sharp overhangs as open paths

this is not working very well in other games

[lavish yew]

Better yet, it has trained you to look up.

An instinct most gamers lack.

[sour anchor]

nah I got trained to look up by the dev commentary in portal

[deep dawn]

It ain't just gamers. I've learned that people just don't look up in general

[limpid vigil]

let's be honest, farming ||dragons|| is way eaiser in this one

basically can just chill

[wet arrow]

Look at all that Detail in the Floorwork!

[lavish yew]

Meanwhile, the monster clinging to the ceiling: Light Hissing noises and deep breathing

[wet arrow]

"Oh, Hissing Noises? There must be Snakes nearby. Be careful of the Danger Noodles!"

[lavish yew]

The monster, who is a snake monster: "How do they know? They arent supposed to learn I am a snake until the 7th act!"

[limpid vigil]

oh also the statue of ||swapping your stamina and hp|| is found

[lavish yew]

Indeed. ||In the basement of Lookout Landing, and thus much easier to get to than where it was before.||

||Hail Satan, and his intelligent decision to relocate to a smarter location for business.||

[limpid vigil]

if you want a neat weapon ||The godess springs have quests related to them|| the reward ||is a replica skywards sword||

also to do it you'll want ||1 of each dragons claw||

[limpid vigil]

why is it that everyone can smell when you got the item they need

I got like the entirety of the kingdoms fauna and flora in my pocket how do they recognize any smell

also it feel like every time i finish a quest a new one gets unlocked

||Ganon|| out here causing problems as i solve them to stop link from whooping him

[sour anchor]

equip cece hat. never take it off.

[leaden oracle]

Because Link tells them that ?
Canonically BotW Link does speak. He just went silent as Zeldas Bodyguard and chosen Swordsman.
You can see him gesturing when you talk to them. He just has no audible voice for the player

He is not mute you lnow

[tranquil star]

Simplified sign language

They can’t animate every sign, so they just do the general hand gestures

[fading axle]

Yeah link is mute.

[leaden oracle]

No...

Its canonically established that he is not mute

He just went silent as he became the chosen swordsman and later Zeldas bodyguard. He did that as to keep the image of the ever vigilant hero that can shoulder the responsibility given to him

He doesnt speak to us but he isnt mute

This is literally from Zelda's diary in BotW

He is NOT mute

[fading axle]

No cryo. He silent.

Absolutely silent.

[leaden oracle]

Owy with all respect

The game tells you otherwise

[vivid mortar]

That wouldn't explain the moving of the head, like sure iirc there's this thing in non verbal psychology where if you nod your head and make movements that seem like yourself agreeing with the things you say it's more likely for others to agree with you but in case of the "conversations" Link seems to have with NPCs he seems to be explaining what happened and the hands being very out of sight of said NPC I'd think it's rather unlikely that that's sign language.

[leaden oracle]

...
I just explained that he can talk

Just when Hyrule was in its Prime and everybody was looking at the chosen Hero he chose a vow of silence in public

Sayin "But I got 10 Sunblooms here" is perfectly in his capability

[vivid mortar]

I read your messages, just wanted to give my opinion on the topic

[vocal pebble]

just did all shrines, but the final number is unsatisfying...

[vocal pebble]

huh, zora canonically prefer to eat fish raw?

[fading axle]

huh.

neat.

[fading axle]

welcome to the club. DLC hopefully will fix that.

[runic mortar]

fair enough

fish eat fish world

[fading axle]

true statement

[runic mortar]

i remember the blood battle blockade anime where the guy tries to haze the new fish man guy by taking him to a fish restaurant

and he just goes in without second thought

[fading axle]

fish like eatin fish

[lavish yew]

He talks, just not often, and usually only with quick statements when it is required that he speak. Even when he was still wee babby, he was fairly quiet, as per Miphas journal in BotW, it is just the responsibility of being the Chosen Wielder of the Master Sword made that trait even more prominent.

[runic mortar]

he does also talk in tears he does all the motions and everything we just dont get to hear it

[lavish yew]

Literally the only Link that might have been canonically a mute is the Link from Zelda 1 and Zelda 2, from the NES era.

[fading axle]

nah man he mute.

[lavish yew]

The rest of the links can canonically talk, they just dont for us the player because voice acting is expensive.

[fading axle]

does hyper sonic sign language.

all the links can talk. manga proves it, except, there aint no BOTW manga.

so thats the only link that can't

hence

he mute.

[weak ember]

https://kotaku.com/tears-of-the-kingdom-totk-computer-calculator-switch-1850538820

[humble pagoda]

ohh no. three months until they run doom

[weak ember]

unlikely, there is a 21 object build limit

so one would need to wait until the modded roms, which Nintendo will DMCA nuke into orbit

[fading axle]

21 object build limit, per thing.

at least to my knowledge

[leaden oracle]

23 connections total

[fading axle]

hm. not good.

[leaden oracle]

distributed among all things currently rendered

[fading axle]

rip

[weak ember]

realistic limits breed creativity, and allow the creations to work well on the switch hardware

[fading axle]

true

[sour anchor]

you know what? I'm gonna say it. the tougher world bosses ain't fun

"go get zelda's horse it's in the snow field past that ice dragon" ffffffffffffffuck that thing

[glossy dock]

I love them!!! They'r emore fun then lynels

[fading axle]

They are a bit painful.

[sour anchor]

had a couple of 30 attack bows, a couple of 30 attack swords, and 4 fairies. thought I was hot shit. everything broke, all fairies gone, grazing hit from the hitscan beam weapon froze me instantly then killed me and I was like "you know what that's enough videogames" [hold power button]

I'm guessing I should come back when I have a lynel bow and a stash of fire keese eyes or something

[fading axle]

to get the golden horse ya dont have to fight him

just as a heads up

in general

[leaden oracle]

You know the way to fight Gleeoks right ?

and putting a single fan down to get an updraft is also key so you can bullet time his heads

Ideally he shouldnt be able to attack at all except maybe his desperation attack when at low HP

[sour anchor]

that gleeok is near an arch so I ascended to the top and jumped off for the bullet time

[fading axle]

yeah just use campfires

campfires and pinecones

[leaden oracle]

not even that

fan

upside

[fading axle]

expensive.

[leaden oracle]

ignores weather

[fading axle]

pinecone cheap

and thunder gleelocks are the easiest

ice and fire are annoying, and king just exist.

[limpid vigil]

just fight it like a real hero

[fading axle]

I am.

[limpid vigil]

blind charge?

[leaden oracle]

The process is :
Bullet time the heads , if you can with Eye arrows
Bring him down and go for a few swings and then retreat before he stands back up

[fading axle]

slaughtering it before it harms me.

[leaden oracle]

repeat till dead

[fading axle]

just spin when down. more damage.

[leaden oracle]

Those are a few swings

[fading axle]

also I reccomend moving up to 40 attack weapons.

[sour anchor]

yeah gonna break all my bows AND swords lmao

oh I haven't gotten any of those yet

[limpid vigil]

those are like super bosses so yeah

[leaden oracle]

Then you are not ready for that boss

[sour anchor]

I guess I'm still too earlygame for those then

[fading axle]

40 attack and some attack up food is what you need.

[leaden oracle]

You are trying to soul level 1 a late boss

[sour anchor]

I wonder if there's freezeproof clothes

[fading axle]

what snek said.

[leaden oracle]

Yes

[fading axle]

yes, but not gonna help if all your weapons break.

[leaden oracle]

And you are worrying too much

way too much

[sour anchor]

I found the coldproof and cold-attack-up clothes but not freezeproof clothes (or food)

[leaden oracle]

Thats a wall you are not meant to be able to fight at that point

[fading axle]

👆

[limpid vigil]

is it a specific freeze proof or just upgraded cold gear

[leaden oracle]

Yes

You are forcing an issue on yourself

[fading axle]

either way, long story short, you need better gear, dont worry.

[sour anchor]

oh yeah I found a colliseum in the depths ||and gave up after defeating one gloom lynel and another, bigger bloom lynel showed up||

[leaden oracle]

I will sound like a broken record

[sour anchor]

heh yep okay okay I'll delay it for a long while later

... should probably at least complete a second sage quest

[limpid vigil]

was it botw that had people speedruning with like sticks?

[sour anchor]

well in botw, as soon as you have the glider you technically CAN proceed in direct line to ganon

I don't know if totk has that

[limpid vigil]

i juat remember the meme of like Link wakes up and he's saved the world in like 10 minutes flat or something

[fading axle]

it does, its not worth it.

[sour anchor]

it wasn't worth it in botw either lmao

[fading axle]

Crembo, just, play the game, have fun, when you start fighting more silvers than blacks is when you know youre ready for gleelocks.

[sour anchor]

well, other than to grab a bunch of mid-game gear from the castle early, then skitter off

[fading axle]

yeah this game doesnt have that

since all gear is well.... crafted

world level is far more important

[sour anchor]

on the one hand, crafted gear feels fun. on the other hand, since it still breaks a lot, it basically adds twice as much menu fiddling to the weapon thing

[fading axle]

there is good and bad with all

[leaden oracle]

The more shrines , koroks etc you do the more the world scales up

The more frequent the higher grade enemy materials and base weapons become

[fading axle]

oh and just one last tiny icing on the gleelock cake, their drops are just not worth it. at all.

the 3 kings drop orbs but besides them, theres just nothing worth it.

their horns do less damage than silver bokos.

[leaden oracle]

Traveler -> Soldier -> Royal/other

[sour anchor]

the king, heh. really REALLY early game I found a sky island with ghidora and alatreon's love child on it and I've never went "NOPE" faster in my life

[fading axle]

kings. plural.

[leaden oracle]

There are more than one of them around

[fading axle]

4 in total, although only the 3 sky ones matter.

[sour anchor]

so far the highest damage fusion item I have is from the blue-white frox

[fading axle]

thats a max level frox, equivilent to silver.

[leaden oracle]

Which is a great item to deafeat more blue white frox

[fading axle]

good damage.

yes yes.

chain kill Frox.

[sour anchor]

I haven't found any other blue-white ones

[fading axle]

youll find em

[sour anchor]

still explorin the depths, slowly

[fading axle]

eventually

[sour anchor]

wait for blood moon, go back down there and go minecraft on those veins

[limpid vigil]

element stuff?

[fading axle]

idk. never used em. they do 34 damage Grump.

why would I EVER use that.

[limpid vigil]

for element powers if they have it

[fading axle]

by the time you can fight a king you're fighting silvers all the time, and its just not worth it.

[sour anchor]

found some tank treads and a construct head. put them together, slapped a couple of beam emitters on the head. it's functional but I feel so basic when I use it

wonder what would be better. a frost emitter and a cannon maybe? hmm. must experiment

[fading axle]

Id argue laser and cannon.

the emitters kinda suck

real close range, not a lot of damage.

[sour anchor]

yeah my intent is to just drop it in one of the monster camps and let it go wild

the fire and beam emitters do nearly zdps but maybe the frost emitter will actually have a useful effect

[fading axle]

nice.

[limpid vigil]

spining ice and fire?

[fading axle]

I dont think theres damage bonuses for that sadly

[glossy dock]

i have just fought my first gleeok king

Was easy until the uh. Later phase where he had like one hit left but i couldnt get high enouhh to hit his head

Foresr dweller bow op

Gleeoks arent that hard tbh

[sour anchor]

:(

[glossy dock]

In my experience

Isk i think faster smaller enemies are harder

Ie lynels

[sour anchor]

also how do I dodge talus attacks. please they track so well and always oneshot me

[leaden oracle]

You dont

Blow up their arms

bomb

[sour anchor]

you what

I d

what

[leaden oracle]

You can blow up their rock arms

when you blow up one they go on the knees

with two gone they need to take a moment to grab new ones

[sour anchor]

I always arrow them in the pimple I didn't even realize you could use a bomb on the arms

here I am frantically trying to avoid them because link can't dodge roll and has no iframes aaa

[leaden oracle]

Just let me give an advice

You seem to play this game way too agressive

its not designed to be played like a normal hack and slash

[limpid vigil]

you can also send the rocks back with rewind

[leaden oracle]

BotW and TotK is more methodical than fast

Also that

And you can ascend through them

[glossy dock]

Talus aim is Too Good

[leaden oracle]

and fun fact

You can just pick up the small ones

no need to fight

[sour anchor]

the small ones get oneshot by any rock hammer, not an issue

the big ones though. they wind up to do a punch and I can see death coming because the damn tracking

[leaden oracle]

Pick up the small ones and throw

they explode

Also the big ones dont like you running through their legs

[glossy dock]

Yeah the big ones are annoying esp if their pimple is sideways

like their ore pimple- if its not upright and inatead sideways it's hard to hit w a club

[cold sky]

Stand on the pimple to hit it

[glossy dock]

I like twohanded things and those dont swing down well

[quasi plume]

That phrasing is... interesting

[glossy dock]

.... oh no

oops

Sorry

I can delete that if it reads bad

[fading axle]

it happens.

nono, we all get to look at it and chuckle

[glossy dock]

Anyway yeah its hard to hit the rock ur standing on

And if i jump i fall

[fading axle]

this is why we use mech.

[glossy dock]

Mech breaks her weapons too fast

[fading axle]

no, you just, use her base punch.

one shots rocks.

just not bombable rocks

[quasi plume]

Nah nothing to delete

I just got a chuckle of the phrasing

[glossy dock]

??? Not Taluses...

[fading axle]

oh. those.

I reccomend a bow, and a lot of screaming.

[vivid mortar]

Screaming gives you supernatural powers, I too, recommend screaming!

[fading axle]

see this one gets it!

[glossy dock]

If i scream@i scare my dogs

[fading axle]

hmmmm

have you tried screaming, but in your mind.

[cold sky]

If you lock on with the two handed weapons, you'll lean up or down to hit somebody at a higher or lower elevation than you. So, if you stand on the Taluses' pimple, and lock on, but don't touch the motion joystick, you'll attack at a downwards angle and hit the Talus

[runic mortar]

so um i saw a strange thing today caught on video just now from Tears

it involved 2 of those lizardmen in the desert

[cold sky]

?

[glossy dock]

Oh was it the kne where it looked like they were doing- y'know

the monster mash

or whatever a euphamism would be

[runic mortar]

yes

they were making love in the desert

[fading axle]

the hell?!

[lavish yew]

Bokoblins wear loincloths.
This implies they have a social concept of embarrassment from full nudity.

[glossy dock]

I mean ; maybe its a comfort thing

[vocal pebble]

crazy that speedrunners already have the game down to under a hour

[weak ember]

https://kotaku.com/zelda-tears-kingdom-totk-beyblades-build-construct-vid-1850545940

[weak ember]

https://vxtwitter.com/sproutposting/status/1669863431539654657?s=46&t=U2s31DvOHR31QsCQfPeo9g

[runic mortar]

now for bone golem horse!

[sour anchor]

||tossing a dazzlefruit on the floor instakills all stal- monsters jfc||

[deep dawn]

So that's what happened. I had smacked one that fell on the ground and wasn't quite sure what was going on

[lavish yew]

||Stals die to sunlight, Dazzlefruit emits a bright flash akin to sunlight when thrown on the floor. The only one that survives is Stalnox, since they are a special Stal that simply deactivate in bright light.||

[weak ember]

https://twitter.com/psuedofolio/status/1670035907095986176?s=20

psudonym (@psuedofolio)

Tests complete, plus one bonus test! The shadows are the same length at the two different locations! Conclusion? Hyrule is on a flat world! To account for the perceived curve at high altitudes, one must assume it's the work of wizards. #TearsOfTheKingdom #Zelda #NintendoSwitch

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Twitter · Jun 17, 2023, 11:49 AM

[leaden oracle]

And in typical flat earth fashion ( even if only satirical) he goofed up the experiment.
This only shows that shows that hylian physics might behave not like our normal physics.
They took a shadow from the same object which is comparably small in size to the distance of object to light source
Further more those are two time FLOATING ISLANDS above the ground level therefore have 0 say as to the make up of the ground as they are not on a 2d plane but in a 3d space

They didnt even replicate the stupid reasoning they even replicated their failure

[weak ember]

https://tenor.com/view/hqrg-thats-the-joke-gif-14341691

[leaden oracle]

Then you missed that I pointed out that its a joke

[weak ember]

I'm just saying you dissected the frog

[deep dawn]

Where'd the frog come from?

[weak ember]

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/440683-explaining-a-joke-is-like-dissecting-a-frog-you-understand

[deep dawn]

And now threre's old timey dudes involved okay. I can see when I'm in over me head

[fading axle]

what, you want to beat a dead horse too?

[deep dawn]

That poor horse! I mean it probably doesnt mind anymore but it's still rude

[sour anchor]

does it feel like the game pulls the "homeworld trick" and renders distant sky islands bigger so you can see them?

sort of feels like I see gigantic death-star sized spheres in the distance and when I go there they are merely house sized

[fading axle]

Yup

Probably

[sour anchor]

welp I found zelda ||and boy am I so unsatisfied with her role in both games, ultimate fridged woman||

[runic mortar]

searches ||fridged woman||

[sour anchor]

||"women in refrigerators" is the trope name||

also I was right, a tank with a frost emitter and a cannon is so much more effective than twin beams

[weak ember]

This game is a lot better to Zelda than the first game - sure || She isn't a playable character, but she is hella active towards the inevitable victory, and no matter what she had a long road back to the present. || Not to mention there is still DLC possibilities || Where you could play as Zelda in the past, dealing with demon king's remaining foes while she is preparing herself for her transformation and journey back to the present||

but to suggest this is a case of a ||fridged woman, where the only purpose of the woman is to suffer/die in order to motivate/kickstart the male MC|| is missing the point of what was shown to have happened in the collectable memories

[sour anchor]

||I get what you're saying, but all of zelda's active roles are implied, while the stuff that's actually on screen is basically self-sacrificial languishing for 100 and then 10,000 years waiting for the hero to come. a fridged woman isn't exclusively "she does nothing BUT get put in the fridge"||

[weak ember]

|| They aren't just implied, they are told via story via the memories and such. And unlike the first game where they tell you, hey, this princess has been stuck for 100 years to hold back the evil you were meant to vanquish, Zelda played a much more active role and her fate was presented as a twist you later get to fix at the end||
Furthermore
||I feel like saying she was fridged removes her agency and severely reduces her role in existing to just being the side character to Link's MC. This isn't the Legend of Link, this is the Legend of Zelda, and more how she ends up key to the survival of the world while being assisted by the swordsman Link. Since gameplay is focused around link, they have to use other means to focus on Zelda. Further, like I said and from a meta perspective, the blank spots in her story leave open the likelihood of a DLC where you play as her.||

[leaden oracle]

Hyrule Warfare has evolved once more

We know have Missile Guidance Systems

https://youtube.com/shorts/Oops5EHJBB4?feature=share

[sour anchor]

captain noticed me. couldn't stop him from grabbing things. now I am the proud owner of a strong-zonaite-sword-zonaite-sword

[vocal pebble]

managed to get down to 7 remaining bubbulfrogs myself, may need to pull up a map for the rest

[leaden oracle]

How about just using the sakura trees ?

They highlight all the caves

[vocal pebble]

that's what i've been doing, but clearly i've missed some

down to one, and i'm not seeing the missing cave anywhere

and i can never seem to find koltin when i need to

... he can't sense where the last one is?

i'm not missing a sky cave so i'm at a .:|:;

[quasi plume]

Thats terrible

You're terrible

[vocal pebble]

really not seeing a missed cave

found, it's a quicksand cave

[sour anchor]

I explored all the sky islands but only have 8 sages' wills so I'm probably not gonna be finding all the bubbulfrogs either lmao

[fading axle]

sages wills are way easier to find than the frogs. theres only 20 of em.

just look up a guide for them

[weak ember]

it took me too long to realize || I can use recall on the falling chunks of ruins in the overworld to ride up to the sky ruins ||

[cold sky]

Kek

[glossy dock]

I love giving watermelons to the satori

[weak ember]

also I wish I remembered to download my Breath of the Wild save game to my replacement switch before starting the game, as || Your boarded horses are transferred/remembered when you visit a stable||

[weak ember]

omg, build trick (glitch?) for flying machines ||wings don't despawn if they fly backwards||

[unkempt haven]

Seems like a useful glitch, surprised I haven't seen it on any glitch showcase as I feel like it should be on them

[runic mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-keep-it-safe-secret-lord-of-the-rings-gif-13760065

[weak ember]

another one I found out after a bad fuse, but totally intential design ||frozen meat fused to sheild reduces friction in shield surfing||

[fading axle]

WELL NOW.

OHOHOOOOOH

[leaden oracle]

When its wet grass even more , same as sleds and carts or minecarts

Though there is another meat glitch

fuse meat to a weapon, repeat how many times you can and stick them all together and keep it in auto build

Then

[quasi plume]

Thats a horrifying sentence

[leaden oracle]

|| go to a frosty area like Gerudo highlands and get the build out in auto build BUT DONT BUILD IT. Just keep the build preview||

For some reason || the meat acts woth the cold and freezes and falls off the build ! ||

[weak ember]

I saw that glitch

I do have a ||saved autobuild of a bunch of apples to let me use autobuild to pick apples from the trees||

[tranquil star]

That’s actually really funny

[weak ember]

if you ||hold it above a fire, will it drop roasted meat?||

[sour anchor]

god link is such a snobby purist

"no, this meat was frozen, I refuse to cook with it anymore"

bruh it's still good just let it get to room temp then we can do a slooooow round in the smoker

[leaden oracle]

Saaaaame

I have about 15 normal and 5 golden in that

There is this one orchard with a ton of apple trees

100+ apples in maybe 2 minutes

[weak ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u6BN1p0Uo8

[leaden oracle]

It's turing "equivalent"

Due to its own limitations

if it wasnt it would theoretically

[sour anchor]

imagine the vehicles if we could assign controls

[leaden oracle]

Perfect Mining carts with extendable spring pistons

[weak ember]

That meat trick is great for farming rupees

[fading axle]

NOOOOOOO

[weak ember]

gotta recreate all the memes in TotK

[fading axle]

Apparently

[humble pagoda]

amusingly, there's a crossover fanfic of those two settings.

it's called "tired, retired" and it's already filled with delightful shenanigans.

[weak ember]

I just had a thought - the Zelda subtitles could describe a world where a young Zelda got lost from her family, and had to survive on a previously undiscovered/used wild onion (Breath of the wild), and after rescue, because everyone celebrated it, and because the princess demanded the royal chef use the vegetable, the vegetable saw wide spread use, with everyone now having to suffer through preparing the onions (Tears of the Kingdom).

The subtitles are just onion puns

https://tenor.com/view/nick-offerman-raw-onion-gif-9285386

[leaden oracle]

Onion or onion ?

[weak ember]

I was looking for a SU Onion gif, but liked the Nick Offerman gif better

[sour anchor]

nothing defeats tony abott just biting into an onion with the skin on and everything

[sour anchor]

man if you didn't cry when ||Hudson had to send his daughter off to vai camp|| you don't have a heart

[fading axle]

Of course. I shed one gigantic extremely manly tear.

[glossy dock]

It makes me feel so dirty

Seperating a child forcibly from their family like that

[fading axle]

we did what we could

culture is a strong and resiliant force.

we tried to give them the bestest last day together. although they will reunite later in life.

still not being able to be there when your child grows up its just.... it just dont feel right.

[lavish yew]

The true monster does that quest before beating the Desert temple.

[fading axle]

oh my god that.... no.... thats too evil.

thats sending a child into a deathtrap

its just not right.

[vivid mortar]

similar to Hollow knight when you walk out of the room Zote's in with big birb or Cloth

[lavish yew]

I always leave Zote to die to the big birdbug, unless I am doing a speedrun to the Zote Boss Fight.

[fading axle]

yall dont just leave Zote to die?

[vivid mortar]

i did it the first run

but its nice to have a few more geos second time around

[sour anchor]

Y'all didn't memorize all Zote rules and apply them to your own life?

[lavish yew]

You can farm Geo from the Arena anyway, you dont need to keep Zote alive to steal yo girl.

[vivid mortar]

my status is one of his precepts lol

[vivid mortar]

I equipped the increase stonk charm and gathering swarm and had just enough to get all buyables including the permanent upgrades to the breakable charms

[sour anchor]

Anyway is there a way to get the steering of big wheels with the speed of small wheels

Because damn if the vehicle controls aren't a weak point of this game

[vivid mortar]

flying

unless the game requires you to traverse land

flying is the best

dont forget to equip a dragon part onto the vehicle

makes it so it can get 4x as far before it despawns

horns specifically iirc

dont think scales do that

[lavish yew]

Or Star Fragment.

[vivid mortar]

if you have any spares anyway

[vivid mortar]

didn't know about that one!

[sour anchor]

Someone said the planes don't despawn if you fly backwards but my attempt to do so resulted in hilarity, slapstick

[lavish yew]

Star Fragment supposedly also does the antidespawn thing, yeah.

[vivid mortar]

its 500 instances of distance normally

and then 2000 with a part glued to it

[sour anchor]

Is that information you can discover in game or what

[lavish yew]

Through trial and error, yes.

Through dialogue, no.

[vivid mortar]

^^

[sour anchor]

That is very silly, only dataminers/terminally bored would try that

[lavish yew]

You cant discover the fact that Rock Octos repair your weapons through dialogue either, only through experience.

[vivid mortar]

glad we have those people in the community :P

[glossy dock]

It seems none of the gerudo even remember their fathers at all which makes me so sad. They all seem scared of men

[lavish yew]

To be fair, whenever a single Gerudo male is born, they turn out to be a monster.

If my species were cursed with such nonsense, I too would develop a fear of men.

[glossy dock]

True!

[vocal pebble]

considering link's lived in two centuries, i'd expect an encounter or references to a "recent" gerudo male either before or after the big sleep

[cold sky]

Oh yeah, the fact that Link was fully allowed access to Gerudo Town in ToTK is a big deal for them
I expect there to be a mention or reference to it, even if just in passing, if there is another game

[vivid mortar]

Agreed!

[leaden oracle]

So uhh

I learned that Boko horns are as effective to add to elexirs as ALL mob horns

from red to silver

+40 seconds to Elixir time

Shard of Dragon Spikes the same as Elemental Keese Eyeballs and Like Like Stone and Elemental Jelly

+1m 20s

Though if you want to make a single elixir Last stupid amount of time

Add a dragon horn

+30m ....

The compendium has some good info

Also , has anybody else the issue that you cant take pictures of any WING type material ?

Wing and Fin

[vocal pebble]

can confirm that's not just you

[leaden oracle]

Also no guts it seems

[weak ember]

same

[cold sky]

Also, tbf, the lore for the male Gerudo states that the last one has to die before the new one can be born. Since Calamity Ganon is still alive, (possibly, in ToTK, since he was resealed, but after he turned into the Beast Demise soooo), then there hasn't been a male Gerudo born in 10,000 years, and probably even longer. How many times has Calamity Ganon been sealed instead of destroyed? Each time would mean it's been longer and longer since the last one was born.

The Mystery of the TRIFORCE in Breath of the Wild…: https://youtu.be/hZNkoCPK0nk

It's an older video, admittedly, posted before ToTK, but it's pretty compelling

[lavish yew]

True, the whole Single Male Gerudo curse thing does require the previous one to die, but given how consistent it is, where they always get a new one after the previous dies, it would make sense that even with how long Calamity/Demon King Ganondorf was sealed away and thus not actually dead, the knowledge of the curse on the Gerudo would continue to be taught to new Gerudo.

[cold sky]

Except that the Divine Beasts got buried and lost just in the 10,000 years between last Calamity, and BoTW. And from what I remember, quite a few normal people didn't believe in the Calamity. If it's possible for people to not believe in the Calamity, despite the Royal Family firmly confirming it's existence, and the destruction its caused on numerous historical occasions, well, it makes sense how stuff can get lost

[lavish yew]

Every time a Gerudo gives birth to a Male, that Male turns out evil.
Every time.
A curse like that isnt getting forgotten the same way the Divine Beasts did.

[cold sky]

You're right, in that classically it shouldn't be forgotten. But time is kind of shit like that, keeping good historical records is hard to do, and we've seen through the series that Int was not the stat that most people invested in.

Also, from what I remember of the lore, there were a few other Gerudo Males that weren't Ganon. They weren't important, iirc, but Ganon is destined to be born to the Gerudo, not that every Gerudo male is Ganon. As far as I knew, anyway

And finally, how do we know there isn't?

[lavish yew]

Again, given the sheer consistency of the curse on the Gerudo, it is extremely unlikely they would ever forget about it. Especially given some of the named Gerudo in BotW, when talking to them, specifically reference the curse.
The Single Male Gerudos always turn out evil, but only some of them turn out to be Ganondorf (Ganon is the pig, Ganondorf the man. Very important distinction.)

[cold sky]

Nothing says that the Gerudo don't have the custom of killing any newborn Gerudo Males to prevent Ganon, but a combination of the fact that Ganon hasn't been born anew in a while means they haven't had to do it in a long time, and since they haven't had to do it, why even bring it up?

[lavish yew]

(Ganon is the manifestation of the "purified" essence of Ganondorf, given form by the Triforce of Power.)

[cold sky]

Wouldn't surprise me if such a thing was a secret passed down to Gerudo Chiefs and her most trusted Guardswoman.

[runic mortar]

the question is how consistent is it

like what is the time difference every time he is born

[cold sky]

He's supposed to be born every 100 years.

Actually

Just had an idea

[runic mortar]

but is he?

[lavish yew]

It being Ganondorf specifically, not consistent.
The male Gerudo being evil at all, so consistent that if not for the sealing away nonsense, you could have kept time by the Male Gerudos being born and turning out to be evil.

[runic mortar]

ccause i just read one of you saying its not always ganondorf born every time

[cold sky]

What if that part was on purpose? He's born every 100 years to keep his power low, like how the Master Sword has to bathe in Sacred Light to charge, the longer Ganondorf/Ganon has his power, and is alive, the stronger he gets? And that's why Link struggled so much in this cycle?

[cold sky]

Ganon is born as the Gerudo Male, every time. But not every Gerudo male is Ganon, there were a few others iirc, but because they weren't Ganon, they weren't important

[runic mortar]

so that means at times there might of been 300-500 (not accurate just an example) between when he is born again

[cold sky]

Yep

[lavish yew]

That is only partially true.
Ganondorf is always a very skilled practitioner of Magic, and while being alive longer does make ones magic stronger in the Zelda franchise, it wouldnt be enough to account for the strength of the Ganondorf(s) fought by the Hero of the Wilds. What does account for that strength, however, is ||the fact he stole a Zonai Secret Stone, and also gave himself fully into the latent power of Demise's curse on the Bloodline of the Goddess and the Spirit of the Chosen Hero.||

[runic mortar]

dont be surprised if things get forgotten within that time span

[cold sky]

I'm aware.

[cold sky]

It wouldn't be surprising to me, at all, tbh

[runic mortar]

it will definitely start to happen after 100 years give or take and gets more and more likely to happen as you go up towards 1000 years

[cold sky]

And if there has been 10,000 years, at least ,since the last Gerudo Male has been born, well......

[runic mortar]

that knowledge would be long gone

[lavish yew]

Except that there are Gerudo who specifically talk about the curse on their people, in Breath of the Wild.

[runic mortar]

if they had forgotten about the demon king who was a gerudo then that knowledge is definitely long gone

[runic mortar]

how do they speak about it? as fact or as myth?

[cold sky]

That's an important distinction

Also, out of character

[lavish yew]

As fact. That every time a Male is born to the Gerudo, they turn out to be evil.

[runic mortar]

i come from warhammer so i will always ask this kind of question

[cold sky]

Was that comment supposed to be a lore tidbit for dedicated fans, or actually established fact for the universe?

[runic mortar]

like im at a point where i would say i need to see this for myself cause i no longer trust people to not bullcrap me

like actual wording and everything cause people have always misinterpreted things from my experience including myself

[lavish yew]

Both. Nintendo, when doing lore in such a way, as something stated by a character in the game directly to Link while the player is in control, always intend it as both.

[cold sky]

Fair enough. I'll give you that one

[glossy dock]

i want a gerudo npc who's got male children who she's either adopted or are her step children

Would be cute

[cold sky]

Ye

Knowing the rest of the Gerudo though, she'd probably be the equivalent of that old 'Crazy Cat Lady's and obsessed with Voe

In their opinion, at least. Lol

[glossy dock]

The mental image of a gerudo woman who's adopted like ... not even hylian kids is hilarious

Lady w like two baby rito . Confuses Every Other Person

[fading axle]

adopts hinox brothers

[glossy dock]

" who's children are those"

" mine?????"

[glossy dock]

HAH.

I wonder if the monsters in TOTK can talk. I know the moblins in sone games can

imagine link overhearing a monster camp gossiping

[fading axle]

no seriously, a gerudo woman just marching along with her 3 imortal boys who care for her.

come on tell me thats not the best book idea you've ever heard.

[glossy dock]

She wasn't going to leave them there!!!!!! They were looking at her with sad eyes

[fading axle]

EXACTLY!

[fading axle]

seemingly some do? if you observe the camps they do seem to actually communicate and are actual species.

specifically boko and moblins

[glossy dock]

I mean like talk to people.

[fading axle]

I mean you'd have to teach them the language

[glossy dock]

link hearing a moblin insult his hairstyle

[fading axle]

but they are probably capable of it

I mean look at link

that man does hyper sonic sign language

[glossy dock]

i always assumed he's selectively mute

Not incapable of speech due to illness or injury

[fading axle]

lore wise he is, I just like to think he just signs at speeds faster than the human can track

[glossy dock]

Just like, it's hard for him

[fading axle]

as in seriously, lore wise, man just choses not to talk

[glossy dock]

That's really funny

[fading axle]

at least for BOTW and TOTK

[glossy dock]

yeah dosent zelda's diary say link says its because of the pressure he feels

that's very " selectively mute" feeling to me

Link in the public eye loses his ability to talk for more than a few sentances at a time

[fading axle]

yup

I mean that was my interpritation

man just choses not to talk to appear more imposing

which I mean. it works.

[glossy dock]

Selective mutism is less like choice and more brain does not let words come out

But yeah , similar enough hcs

[fading axle]

ah

sorry. medical terms hard.

[glossy dock]

It's often because of different mental conditions afaik

A lot of autistic people have some form of it

[fading axle]

what isn't?

[glossy dock]

true

Link knowing speed sign language is adorable though

[fading axle]

but good to know for the future selective mutism doesn't mean by choice. medical term. neat.

[fading axle]

I pick the funniest and bestest options.

[glossy dock]

He's frantically signing to a shopkeeper his order and the poor shopkeeper is just like

" wait slow down how many did you want "

Link needs 15 carrots, 10 eggs, and 55 arrows and he is in a HURRY

[fading axle]

oh also those eyes and wings

yes ALL OF THEM

JUST TAKE THE RUPIES

[runic mortar]

i only know link to speak when his reporting something

[glossy dock]

I wonder how a rito would use sign language;

Probably looks really silly

[runic mortar]

well that and he was speaking to the old man in breath of the wild

no it makes sense

they are birds

your just assuming sign language always has to require fingers and hands

[fading axle]

I mean they have fingies

technically tallons

but their tallons can operate bows so it counts

[runic mortar]

but there walking on them when on the ground

its like suddenly having to lift your feet to eye level every time just to communicate

[fading axle]

yes.

they are birds

[lavish yew]

BotW/TotK Link doesnt speak much due to natural inclination to being silent, and a sense of extreme duty due to being the Chosen Hero.

[vocal pebble]

can confirm, as someone who can barely get a sentence out to even his own mother once a month

should've probably tried learning sign language at some point, but text gets me by

[fading axle]

I hear its a good skill to have, but text works fine enough.

[leaden oracle]

Note

Whatever you do , do NOT give into temptation at the start of the Zora temple and build a tower of springs

Get your buddy sage in making to the temple first.
Then go back to start anf build that spring tower

Thats the time you can launch yourself into the stratosphere

you can skip the whole travel to the temple in seconds once you reach THAT area

I went so high I unloaded the temple assets and the temple mechanics T Posed with unloaded shaders beneath me

[scarlet comet]

https://youtu.be/5ctMKYapQYk

[sour anchor]

phantom ganon D:

[sour anchor]

finally killed my first gleeok! flame gleeok, specifically. fight went pretty smoothly except when I whittled it down to about 25% hp, at which point it just sort of vanished

I was panning the camera around going all "uhhhhh where did it go? where did it go?" then I looked up

whatever I didn't need those fairies anyway

[fading axle]

yeah

thats just zelda

oh and link is the third wheel who keeps having to prove himself when the other 2 just get born with the godesses boons

because obviously.

[runic mortar]

but the master sword

[fading axle]

no not that I mean the triforces.

zelda and gannon just get GIVEN wisdom and power from the getgo

link always has to earn courage.

for some reason

[runic mortar]

but the master sword

also i stole a horse in breath of the wild

[limpid vigil]

i mean usually you gotta do a trial for the master sword

from just not getting lost in a magic forest to reforging it

[runic mortar]

saw a pig he was coming at me fast for a pig goblin then i saw he was on a horse so i killed him for his horse

[fading axle]

you guys do know the triforces give powers on top of the relative inheritences that they give right?

I mean sure the MS is the inheritence for the weilder of the triforce of courage, but lore wise I do believe it also gives magical empowerment

[runic mortar]

actually as i just looked it up it does give him powers

also from what i read it gives him magical resistence

[fading axle]

I TOLD YOU

I BLOODY TOLD YOU

[runic mortar]

like apparently in the one where he becomes a wolf, without the triforce of courage he would of become a lost soul or something

instead he survives and becomes a wolf

[fading axle]

neat

but see I toldja the triforces did things

[lavish yew]

Courage is the one that does the least, because it can only be claimed by one who already embodies its qualities, hence the always needing to earn it. Link has to prove he embodies the Triforce of Courage.

[fading axle]

oh and zelda just is always instantly wise?

wisdom is earned.

not gifted.

[lavish yew]

The Triforce of Wisdom is really moreso the Triforce of Light Magic.

[runic mortar]

we live in a magic land full of elves what do you expect

oh and there are bird people who apparently evolved from the fish people and round men that live in a volcano

and an all female race that im surprised they havent already started to just kidnap men to make more babies

[lavish yew]

The Triforce of Wisdom, in the games, has never actually been connected to actual wisdom, beyond the trials in the couple of games where we actually collect the entire Triforce having us need to solve the puzzle-iest of puzzles for the Triforce of Wisdom.
What it has been regularly connected with is Magic, specifically Light Magic.

[weak ember]

I usually conflate it with wisdom -> divine inspiration or gift, from the meta (Link and the world is literally getting outside influence from the player) to the gifts of light magic

[cold sky]

I'm not sure I'm getting exactly what you're saying here, but I had my own little thought. What if the reason it's called the Legend of Zelda, is because the Tri-Force of Wisdom is the Force guiding Link through his adventures, us. Being channelled through Zelda, since she bears the blood and reincarnated soul of the Goddess. If the latter is still a thing.

[weak ember]

There is a pretty good VR platformer, Moss, where they play with the themes of the player being part of the story more literally - the protagonist Moss can see you and you help them yourself (grabbing and moving terrain/enemies). That is what I was alluding to in part - same sort of notion you are picking up on

[sour anchor]

bone proficiency get! now to beat up a molduga..

[weak ember]

ok, this is a cool thing (story spoilers): || Got a blood moon after completing the first ganondorf fight where we learned zelda was an imposter, zelda disappeard from narrating the blood moon, now it's just quiet respawing of the monsters during the cinematic ||

[humble pagoda]

that's cool, yeah, but imagine if: ||instead of fake zelda, we got Matt Mercer Ganondorf narrating it all smugly||

[fading axle]

||heeeeeeh||

[lavish yew]

||Better yet, dehyrdrated Matt Mercer Ganondorf.||

[cold sky]

Fierce Deity Fi

[glossy dock]

Nice! Source?

[leaden oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-gif-18401155

[fading axle]

Shadow…… who’s the artist…..

[runic mortar]

the artist is onisuu!

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-smack-head-fall-over-gif-15860650

https://tenor.com/view/noot-noot-apocalypse-gif-25788876

[cold sky]

If I had the source.....

I would have posted it with the artwork

[runic mortar]

Shadow seems legit

https://tenor.com/view/old-code-family-guy-star-wars-old-joke-gif-20147196

https://tenor.com/view/botw-link-run-contorted-breath-of-the-wild-gif-22722290

[weak ember]

source is the first link if you google image search it, first result with saucenao.com as well

[cold sky]

@glossy dock and @leaden oracle artist seems to be Onisuu. There's a watermark signature on her skirt, just to the left of the front armor plate

[glossy dock]

It was unreadable

Also arent you not supposed to post if you dont have a source link

[cold sky]

I'm the one that posted it. And I was paying attention. I hoped somebody else would do the reverse image search, then post the name of the artist. If that hadn't happened, I would have personally searched for the artist.

Also, tbh

It really wasn't that difficult to find or read the name. I found it in like 5 seconds, when I actually took the time to look for it. I was just being lazy originally.... So

[weak ember]

anything on a source on this one or are we suppose to search all the Tims ourselves? Kind of a bad look when mods don't follow the servers own rules and leaves it for others to pick up the slack

[runic mortar]

after finding that gif from above im now going to forever haunt this channel with it now

https://tenor.com/view/botw-link-run-contorted-breath-of-the-wild-gif-22722290

cause seriously the hell

just finding this was a gem

proceeds to save it on computer for easier access

Gurm is going to hate me more for this

[cold sky]

https://tineye.com/search/5e1c92b0c33924606a8adb49b3e6616c20ed547e?sort=score&order=desc&page=1 take your pick

[weak ember]

yes, I know how to reverse image search

[cold sky]

I don't do the reverse image searching myself, because I'm notoriously bad at it. I find numerous entries like this, or I source the wrong artist, etc

that's why I tend to leave it to you guys, unless it hasn't been done at all

[runic mortar]

that and if the image is from pinterest it can be absoulutely impossible most of the time to find a source

[weak ember]

but the server rules require accreditation if you are going to post folks creative works, rule C2. I feel like if you are not confident you can give credit where it's due, then perhaps it's not worth posting in the first place, or at least making it clear you are looking for the source. Saying you just aren't going to do it because you'll let someone else follow the rules or do it for you or because it's hard seems to be against the point of the rule

[quasi plume]

Second one has the signature in the bottom-left so it fits the rules, first one didn't and should have been searched, but it was quickly recitifed after being pointed out

[cold sky]

I'm not saying I'm not going to do it, I'm saying, I'm bad at it, so leave me as the last choice.

[glossy dock]

I mean; yeah i was just like hey isnt that against the rules

[fading axle]

no I won't. link being link doesn't hurt me

[fading axle]

yeah thats just link going around having a day

[sour anchor]

I'm just wondering where the "stand back I'm gonna jutsu this guy" pic came from

[cold sky]

Fuel for my belief that BoTW and ToTK are soft reboots of the series

https://www.zeldadungeon.net/eiji-aonuma-comments-on-return-of-classic-zelda-gameplay/

[runic mortar]

i was already thinking this when it seemed to me at least to be a different timeline/branch

[cold sky]

The only thing I'm not sure of, is where the soft reboot happened. If it was BoTW, then most likely ToTK exists as an alternate timeline, explaining why the Divine beasts and shiekah tech disappears. And if the reboot happened on ToTK, then that makes the most sense, but sort of invalidates BoTW, which is annoying

[runic mortar]

i wonder if there is an explaination cause there is a journel talking about how purah recovers from child form

so breath of the wild did happen for her

oh i might of found something cause it was so easily corrupted zelda ordered it all to be dismantled

[lavish yew]

I mean, the Shiekah Tech didnt disappear entirely.
The Skyview Towers use Shiekah Tower terminals and Guardian limbs.

[runic mortar]

cause remember ganon straight up won at first by turning it all against the hylians

[lavish yew]

There is also still a ruined Guardian on top of the Hateno Ancient Tech Lab, in Hateno.

And a Korok on top of that ruined Guardian, just like in BotW.

[runic mortar]

ok so now we got that problem fixed remember to shove this down throats when people complain or ask about it

[cold sky]

Except the vast majority of it did disappear, the Divine beasts are gone, several of the shrines are just straight up holes straight to the Depths. If ToTK is a soft reboot, replacing the majority of the Sheikah tech with Zonai tech, making the Sheikah tech still exist just in a more limited capacity, makes sense

Like, instead of a legion of guardians, they were more like special forces, a small number of highly advanced bots/tech etc

[runic mortar]

like i said i think zelda straight up dismantled them cause they are literally shown to be compromised

they had all these robots built and ready then bam immediately got corrupted and started destroying the kingdom

[leaden oracle]

Also you can see that they have been re-used in the towers

[runic mortar]

especially when you first get launched and guardian legs come out

[sour anchor]

the emperor banned abominable intelligences after the men of iron rebelled I thought everyone knew that

[leaden oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIJBHBapgg

[sour anchor]

pet peeves: when people dub comics on youtube but don't link to the original comic

[leaden oracle]

They did ?

Have you looked at the description ?

[sour anchor]

they pointed to the website, but not the specific strip

admittedly that's a step better than normal

[leaden oracle]

That is nagging on a high level

this is full credit to all people

And in this case there they did list the specific artist for that strip

Abel Hagen

Which you can also see at the last panel

[weak ember]

TotK also has a lot of continuing small side stories for NPCs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRkMDoukopA

and cute little easter eggs, like how in BotW Riju's daily routine would have her playing with plushies in the evening, and in TotK, those plushies are still in her bedroom and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTjWd3eo_n8

[runic mortar]

i cant even argue this cause hyrule is older then the imperium of man

[leaden oracle]

Question : why do all adult female characters sound like they are about to go full „Ara Ara“ on Link ?

[runic mortar]

my only answer is this

i was told that the sound acting thats not in cutscenes is the japanese version

[cold sky]

Is that confirmed? Imperium reached 40k, was that confirmed for Hyrule? Best grasp on time is a century or two between the majority of reincarnations, and 10,000 years between the last Calamity and present.

Just wanting to know if it was confirmed Hyrule has existed longer than 40k.

[fading axle]

Yeah most people do, but one of em lived, and is still around.

[runic mortar]

yes in breath of the wild impa literally tells the tale of the first battle against calamity ganon saying it occurred 10,000 years ago and when she tells it she says at that point in time the kingdom of hyrule was already a flourishing advanced civilisation

also the imperium isnt 40k years old its 10k age

in warhammer 40k is basically saying its roughly 40,000 years from our real world current point

[cold sky]

Fair point to both of those. But it doesn't actually answer my question. 'Flourishing civilization' says nothing about timeframe, and the question in this case was, ' Is Hyrule confirmed older than 40k?

We know that there are a handful of confirmed dates. The Heroes themselves. Between them, we can account for roughly 1,000 years, then add another couple thousand for the knowledge that, usually, it was about 150 to 200 years between Ganon reincarnations. Let's, for the sake of argument, round that up to 15,000 years. Even with the 10,000 year sealing of Calamity Ganon, something noted to be an extreme outlier, that's only 25,000. Roughly

[runic mortar]

she literally says I will now tell you the tale of what occurred 10,000 years ago and then it transitions to her saying hyrule was then blossoming as a highly advanced civilisation, so hyrule is at least older then 10,000 years considering we dont even know how far into the past zelda was sent to encounter Rauru etc

[cold sky]

Meh

I just don't think we have enough information to say whether Hyrule has existed for 40k.

[runic mortar]

i was never saying 40k

i was saying its older then 10,000 years hence being older then the imperium

cause the imperium is only 10,000 years old

[limpid vigil]

link is lion el jonson

wasn't there a thing about every game set before BotW/TotK happened so long ago they're now myths and legends

[runic mortar]

no idea cause technically in breath of the wild/tears of the kingdom ||ganondorf was however the hell long ago the founding was and was sealed till the event of Tears of the kingdom happened||

[cold sky]

Alright. That's fair. However, at this point, my question is only related to you, in that you made me think of it. "Is Hyrule confirmed older than 40k?" It appears, that the answer might be yes, might be no.

[weak ember]

that final boss sequence was epic

[sour anchor]

ssshhhh I haven't gotten anywhere close yet (still only two sages)

[weak ember]

I said as much as I will without spoiler tags

[weak ember]

sorry for the accidental tag, just curious to see how you fell about the main story line when you finish it

[runic mortar]

no idea cause we aint got any idea at all of the length of time between the 10,000 year event and the founding of hyrule

[weak ember]

I definitely wouldn't mind an amendment to the history of hyrule/zelda book they released

[runic mortar]

i think it would be ending up different its just a matter of where it branches off from

[sour anchor]

where do y'all go to farm high level construct bits? I got the mighty zonai swords but no captain level whatever bits to put on them

[glossy dock]

The temples

[weak ember]

the proving grounds shrines are nice - you don't keep drops on the first pass, but after completing, when you revisit you keep your gear and the subsequent drops

[runic mortar]

by mighty zonai sword thats just the handle bits right?

[weak ember]

yes

[runic mortar]

all i can say is apparently there is a captain 4 on the tutorial island if unless there are higher level captain constructs for bits

[sour anchor]

oh yeah the tutorial island should have plenty of robots

[runic mortar]

from what i saw one is near the the south part of the island

i also have no idea about respawn rates for constructs

[weak ember]

they respawn with the blood moon

[runic mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/what-wut-pepe-the-frog-shocked-surprised-gif-17558983

that dont seem right

(not talking game wise but lore wise)

[weak ember]

indeed

[runic mortar]

confirmed ganondorf owns the constructs! examines them finds ganondorf logo

[leaden oracle]

I need LOW level stuff , anybody got a place for that ? scour the starting island and shrines ?

[runic mortar]

how low we talking here

stick on stick fusion?

[leaden oracle]

lvl 1 horns

I sold all mine.. same for other low level mob stuff

For armor upgrades..

[runic mortar]

this is captains right just to double check?

1s

for starters great sky island

as well

[weak ember]

the zonai armor set needs 15 each of soldiers 1-4 horns and captains 1-3

[runic mortar]

the stuff I was seeing was pointing towards the proving ground things abit like james already said

[leaden oracle]

okay so brutalize tutorial island

got it

[weak ember]

that and completed proving gross grounds shrines

[sour anchor]

finally got the ||fierce deity|| sword and the ||white sword of the sky|| and what the hell do you mean they're also breakable

[sour anchor]

controller battery died as I was falling down a chasm. frantically mashing the 'open glider' button wondering why it didn't respond. splat.

[cold sky]

Lmao

I had a button get stuck and do the same thing to me

[weak ember]

if you talk to the poe statue, they should be purchasable with poe spirits, and poes actually respond in the depths it looks like

[limpid vigil]

I know that for the ||White sword of the sky|| You gotta get the materials again and go to the place you get the first one

[sour anchor]

I will absolutely never be doing that. Into the display stand it goes!

[limpid vigil]

i think most of the other special weapons are buyable from poe statues tho

worst come to worst just feed it to an octorock to fix it

the champion weapons you can just, make new ones too iirc but like

diamonds

[weak ember]

I occasionally get them through amiibo rewards

[sour anchor]

I'm using the rito champion bow because I am a shameful gamer and haven't killed a lynel yet

[glossy dock]

Duplex bow is my go to non lynel

[leaden oracle]

All Amiibo stuff is repurchasable at the poes

Its just that non amiibo users can get them ingame through quests or treasure chests

Including the weapons mentioned before

[weak ember]

not to mention the amiibo only provide a single chance at the drop a day, while a reasonable amount of poe gathering gets you a guaranteed buy at the poe statue

[cold sky]

||apparently you can manually adjust the system clock, and reuse the amiibo cards by adding 25 hrs to the clock after you get done with a stack of amiibos||

[weak ember]

not a fan of that sort of method

if I really wanted to, I could save my amiibo to my flipper zero, modify the data block so it shows a new UUID for the amiibo, and make effectively multiple copies of the amiibo if it was that big an issue

[cold sky]

Fair, I only bring it up because I just found out about it

I don't go looking for exploits or cheats like that, but my buddy was telling me about it today when I brought my switch in and was showing him my amiibo cards

[weak ember]

nods

the amiibo itself is like 137 bytes of data in the NTAG215, with 8 bytes identifying the type of amiibo (is it skyward link, champion revali, etc.) The rest act as a finger print to ID the amiibo, since it will let you scan two of the same type on the same day.

[cold sky]

Huh

[leaden oracle]

https://amiibodoctor.com/2021/07/16/all-the-ways-to-make-your-own-amiibo-tagmo-placiibo-cattlegrid-nfc-tools-powersaves-for-amiibo-amiibomb-amiijoy-wumiibo/

[weak ember]

yep

[leaden oracle]

Its literally just a small NFC device , nothing more

[weak ember]

yes, specifically a NTAG215 device

which I should correct has 540 bytes

NTAG213 was the smaller capacity one

to be specific because my ADHD brain wants to clarify: NFC is the protocol for two devices to speak with short range wireless, while NTAG# is a specification for a passive (unpowered) tag that can be read/write to using NFC.

[fading axle]

neato

[weak ember]

for example, NFC is used when doing the two phone sharing by touching their backs

as well as between the phone and reader for wireless pay

[fading axle]

ah yes. my newest horror and fear.

wireless pay, and tap to pay.

[weak ember]

device to device can send tonnes of data back and forth, and it's encrypted, which is why you need to unlock the phone and provide the pass code. For credit cards, those are passive and I keep mine with chips in foil sleeves

[fading axle]

I haven't gone THAT far, I just dont use tap to pay.

[weak ember]

nods

so all that being said, it's not hard to buy a bunch of blank NTAG215 off amazon, and using an NFC app on your phone to make Amiibo tags that work with Zelda

with the full time day job, it saved a lot of ingredient farming/grinding

[fading axle]

yeah, probably aint a bad idea to just get a big chain of those and mark em each as an amibo so that I can just technically have all of them

[runic mortar]

i have know how to get those amiibo files too for emulation which is a funny thing

[runic mortar]

so on a random note i think the first sage of water was called Ruto

mainly from something i just read

in breath of the wild

could be wrong could be right who knows

[glossy dock]

Ruto was the ocarina of time water sage

[leaden oracle]

Yeah it is said to be her at least in name

Also it is said that there are more Zora Domains outside Hyrule

Hyrule is just one Kingdom after all

[sour anchor]

now I'm picturing a picture of a planet with a tiny dot labelled "all goddess hylia interventions happen in this area"

[weak ember]

or "here is hated by Ganondorf"

[runic mortar]

well thing i was reading just before that i randomly found spoke if a sage that appeared long long ago and that the divine beast Ruta was built in honor of them

so it wouldnt surprise me if that was the first sage of waters name when she and the rest had faced ganondorf that first time

[glossy dock]

Ruto is probably named@after the first water sage

Just like Rauru from OOT probably was named after BOTW rauru

[glossy dock]

Makes sense Ruto was named after an ancient water sage

[sour anchor]

"rauru was always a hot dragon-goat guy with short lil legs what are you talking about"

[limpid vigil]

its so weird talking about inherited names from new characters to the older ones

[leaden oracle]

This weird Link guy all over

smh

[runic mortar]

im never not going to find that hand gesture to be weird

cause to me that means shooing someone way not come here

[sour anchor]

man it's so weird going to other games after a long TOTK session and having to rewire your brain to consider a roof as an obstacle

"oh hey this way terminates in a roof, that must be the way to go! [bonks head]"

[weak ember]

it's the cancel/confirm button switch that messes with my brain

[leaden oracle]

Lancelot is a Yiga

[lavish yew]

Your proof of this?

[leaden oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTuO4s1EjKY

Obsession with Bananas

[lavish yew]

Clearly this means he is DK, not Yiga. :P

After all, banans in Donkey Kong games rotate.
Banans in BotW/TotK do not.

[scarlet comet]

They can rotat with ultrahand though

[cold sky]

Ok

Hear me out

Comedy story idea

Link finds and eats Capone's Castle fruit. Nothing else of One Piece, just that. He figures out what it does, thinks about it for a second, then says 'Fuck it, I'm the Temple now'. Makes all his enemies fight the the Courage Temple Gauntlet, where all the enemies are kid Links, all the Mini bosses are Adult Links, and the Final Temple boss is just straight up Fierce Deity Link.

I admittedly don't remember all the specifics of the fruit, but it's making me laugh just thinking about it

[cold sky]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Mk4pNUvJg-g?feature=share

One of the comments raised an interesting point

[runic mortar]

i remember seeing this

[cold sky]

What if the reason Link is always silent, is because anytime he talks about the legitimate things he does, like talk to the Goddess Statue, kill armies of Moblins, lift multi ton boulders and move faster than a laser beam, and nobody believes him

Purah is one of the few exceptions so far

That would honestly be hilarious

[runic mortar]

wait what you mean by lifting ton boulders unless you mean like stuff with his magic Tears hand

and faster then laser beam

[cold sky]

Link as a small kid.... "Dad , dad, little Joha was bullying me, and then he went to push me, but then everything sloooowed waaaay down, and then I pushed him and he went super far and landed in the grass!" ' sure, sure Link. That's very nice, my boy'

[runic mortar]

proceeds to show dad

[cold sky]

Canonically, all those traps with lasers in the old games, are actual light speed. Link is capable of reacting and dodging them something which is carried over to all his incarnations to some degree.

[runic mortar]

bare in mind i dont even remember older game stuff

only breath of the wild and up

[cold sky]

Fair

[runic mortar]

but yeh if i was a kid and learnt to fire laser magic and told my parents and they didnt believe me i would proceed to show them right then and there

[cold sky]

Yeah, all on his own, Link is supposed to be canonically ridiculously strong and fast, in the old games that got increased by the power glove or bracelet, allowing you to lift boulders that were larger than link was tall, and a magic upgrade to the gauntlet to pick up even heavier boulders. One of the enemies you can fight is an eye on a statue that fires a laser at you if you enter it's eyesight, but you can dodge it, even at close range. And it's canonically light speed. All those feats of incredible motion where time slows down? That's not time slowing down, that's Link just fucking blazing through the motions faster than anything else can react

[runic mortar]

dont forget you can deflect lasers in breath of the wild

[cold sky]

My point exactly

You can react, and interact, and dodge or redirect a laser, moving at light speed, in BoTW

[runic mortar]

though than again he might not be experiencing things slowly but is like a falcon

and the slow mo is just for us to able to react like him

[cold sky]

And that's not increased by anything like the power glove or bracelet which increases links strength

But my point

[runic mortar]

cause i have yet to even experience this slow mo that real life humans can encounter in dangerous moments

[cold sky]

Is that now I have the head canon that he experiences a slight Flash Speed thinking problem

And that's why he's always quiet

[runic mortar]

also there is the stuff the shika and yiga are pulling off too

[cold sky]

Tbf, that's it's own issue. Aside from Ocarinas weird green puddles in Kakariko, we've got exactly zero explanation for the Sheikah abilities, and now the Yiga, besides magic

[runic mortar]

yiga are basically sheikah going bad

[cold sky]

And that's fine, but it's not the same as Links reaction speed lol

[runic mortar]

i mean i only beat yiga with bombs

i didnt fight them fair and square

[cold sky]

I almost always had a royal claymore with a very high level damage effect on it in my inventory. Anytime I got attacked by a Yiga, I just had to wait for pop as they teleport above and near you for the charge attack, and one shot them. Just got to dodge the wind cleaver enemy in the back attacking with the vacuum blade

[runic mortar]

i just bombed them

[cold sky]

Fair

In BotW I used the bombs so much

But I don't like using consumables

[runic mortar]

i used bombs to fight basically everything that isnt a laser robot or sleeping

[cold sky]

I've always been bad at using consumables

[runic mortar]

i greatly enjoyed just sneaking up to a sleeping boy and smack them

[cold sky]

I tend to pick people off in a group, or juggernaut the whole camp

[runic mortar]

i just throw bombs

[cold sky]

Food ftw

[runic mortar]

i also have too much extreme healing foods and cause im only 4 or 5 hearts i never used them

[cold sky]

Lmao

[runic mortar]

im only alive in alot of cases cause i have too many fairies

i still have probably 3 or more in my bag

add that to now i have miphas grace

im basically carrying some strong weapons but never use them

and also have a frost spear for when i finally go to the volcano

[leaden oracle]

Actually pro tip for cooking restoration foods

be it stamina or health just use one single ingredient for increasing max health/stamina

they act as full restore

[sour anchor]

bust into the rito store. GIVE ME ALL THE HEARTY SALMON YOU HAVE

[runic mortar]

ive been basically gollum when it comes to fish in breath of the wild

cause ive basically cooked to the point of being full of extremely high heart stuff and im careful with my hearts cause im so few i have plenty of resources to decide what to cook

when i get more hearts that is to warrant the use of my extreme food

[warm mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-gollum-singing-nice-cool-gif-20169685

[sour anchor]

say salmon meunière one more time

[runic mortar]

when it told me i had to sacrifice my fish to upgrade the zora armor my god

[sour anchor]

the armor upgrades are so weird because I always feel paradoxically like my inventory is full of tons of unnecessary crap I have no use for while also not having the upgrade mats

[runic mortar]

for second there i thought this change vanished

[lavish sentinel]

https://twitter.com/franmm127/status/1686407974133075969?s=20

Fran (@franmm127)

https://t.co/NBni3N8BYq

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Twitter · Aug 1, 2023, 4:06 PM

[limpid vigil]

Dragon broke something didn't she

[pastel magnet]

https://twitter.com/krystalwolfy/status/1688450301538263040?t=mGpigkuVRWeMo50ujFSUSA&s=19

🏳️‍⚧️🌸Big Mommy Liza🌸🏳️‍⚧️ (@krystalwolfy)

Puzzle

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Twitter · Aug 7, 2023, 7:21 AM

[sour anchor]

and that's it, 120 lightroots doooooone

I might be about ready to start fighting lynels and gleeoks

[weak ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWrvJZwqZaU

[sour anchor]

finished! at last, I am free! and my god that was a satisfying, satisfying final boss

[weak ember]

right?

[lavish yew]

But what about all the Koroks and Shrines and Lightroots and World-bosses and Bubbelgems? :P

[weak ember]

@sour anchor do you still think || They "fridged" zelda? ||

[sour anchor]

@weak ember well I ||recant it, though in the end, I still wish she had more screentime that was not in a flashback and/or as a vehicle||