No I still need a bit for GO incants, so ima keep it
#Elden Ring
thorn warren
It’s not like this is a level specific PvP character
This is my main I’m looking to max SL
I’ll just swap the incant tool I’m using
yeah 40 faith I think is basically the minimum (round number) needed to use every incantation in existence
I think I could ditch like 3 points
by the nine I'd lose..... 100 split incant scaling to change seals.....
well time to test I guess
raw incant damage is gonna take a hit, but over time I think Ill make it back.
I really need to find something better than catch flame though
got any recs Aisu?
I mean really I just think theres not a ton of great (1 slot) fire incantations that fit what I need.
sure oflame exists but thats well
its oflame
idk anymore
ooh maybe scouring black flame?
thats a good spell.... right?
yeah Ima try it
cant be that much worse than the effective 0 use that catch flame got
You might ask: why so much black flame?
Answer: have you seen how much health stuff has in NG+7
trim blaze
and black flame/soul burn deals % raw unmitigated damage
big damaging incantations?
range or melee? that doesn't cause dodge reaction or you don't mind?
if you go for black flames spells any do the osul burn effect, and they all deal the same one(there is no 2cd or 3rd types that deal more thanthe others)
thorn warren
big damaging incantations?
I've tried those, I just.... my buffing takes up so many slots that anything bigger.... its a trade off.
I think really its just going to take me trying out just about everything I can reasonably think of before I really finalize my choice.
a source of AOE though from scouring flame fills quite a few weaknesses though
or were you asking what types of incantations was I looking for.
for what Im looking for legitimately, I got no idea anymore
I tried going with long range incants, their damage was lacking, I went high damage, their cast times were..... well lets put it under not great, so as of right now, just sticking with a ton of blackflame, probably the best outcome for me.
wish there were more blackflame spells though
trim blaze
there is some ash of war... if your willing to get close and personal
now that i think about it... nothing frobid you to summon your Mimic with one weapon set and you use another
could also slot some "useless" items in your belt, like scarlet rot/chill/sleep pots
Mimic appear to have an infinite supply of them
thorn warren
Aisu, my belt is for potions and only potions. also I already give the mimic tear a different weapon. it uses the great star.
or wait what do you mean by belt
you mean the hold Y menu, or the bottom Dpad menu
thorn warren
ah yeah thats for.... horse, mimic tear, flask, and lanturn.
trim blaze
wait i think i'm mising things
quick pouch for potion/horse/lantern
big item wheel slow and annoying to browse for different items
thorn warren
which is why it merely holds my healing and cerulian flasks
easy access
Im a simple person
Ill never reach the true heights of PvP
but I also dont intend to
vestal pewter
i got my horse on my belt i think
thorn warren
anyways, Im back off to destroying reality. tata!
thorn warren
@oblique magnet remember how you said you never got headshot?
oblique magnet
Still haven't :3
oblique magnet
Nah you're fine
oblique magnet
It only hit your brain
oblique magnet
So why are you protecting it
thorn warren
because I like how the pumpkin looks
compared to other similar armour choices*
actually no I like the pumpkin in genral
idk Ive grown attached
oblique magnet
Weird
thorn warren
okay
thorny oracle
I'm only on NG 2
That is indeed very funny. :P
dense saffron
I thought I was ng + 4 or 5, because I had to start over when I switched from the PlayStation 4 to the 5. I was on NG 4 on my main character on the 4, which is why I got them mixed up lol
That explains why it's so painful to grind for runes on the moghwyn rune farm lmao
vestal pewter
im still on the first playthrough i never new game +ed
thorn warren
I'm only on NG 2
I mean heres the thing, higher than 1 is BARELY more efficient.
dense saffron
I mean heres the thing, higher than 1 is BARELY more efficient.
I'm not sure the percentages, but going to NG gives you more runes from enemies, (while increasing their toughness and how much damage they deal) which, paired with the Golden Scarab and the Gold-pickled fowl foot really stacks up. Especially on the moghwyn palace farm
thorn warren
I'm not sure the percentages, but going to NG gives you more runes from enemies,...
lemme hunt down the bonuses
but basically
NG+1 is a MASSIVE boost
but after that its significantly smaller
TLDR: you're basically already at peak farming efficiency
dense saffron
I think it caps out at ng 7 too
dense saffron
but after that its significantly smaller
That doesn't surprise me as much as it should
thorn warren
lemme get the graph
scaling is still kinda questionable because well, its from THAT site, but essentially for the most part you get one big jump, and then tiny bumps
as seen in +7, you're only getting .275x more than if you were just in NG+1
its tiny
so essentially
dont go up in NG
it just makes things harder
unless you want that, like I do
thorny oracle
A souls game's NG+ing just making the game harder, what a novel concept. :P
thorn warren
A souls game's NG+ing just making the game harder, what a novel concept. :P
Indeed.
vestal pewter
i finally had time to go watch vaatis DLC lore video
thorn warren
Good
thorn warren
welcome to all the talismans I have yet to find.
this is fine.
this doesn't even include weapons or gear I want. this is fiiiiiine.
vestal pewter
@thorn warren i have a random question cause of something i just saw. How many shields are there in Elden ring?
thorn warren
<@202944248801263616> i have a random question cause of something i just saw. Ho...
Uhhhhhhh many
Google knows
Around like… 20 I think?
vestal pewter
unfortunately google refuses to tell me
vestal pewter
im only asking cause a saw a random video saying "ranking all 69 shields in elden ring"
thorn warren
Then yes that’s probably how many shields there are
Look I just use fingerprint and turtle
vestal pewter
my only thought was "that cant be real"
thorn warren
thorn warren
so I've encountered a brand new problem in high level PvP.
its all stalemates
they cannot kill me
I cannot kill them
I think if I played a less defensive setup, IE: not a shield wall of doom, this would be less common.
but thats my dueling setup.
in actual open world PvP I am beholden to the school of bonk and slaughter.
in dueling, Im a shield poke caster.
alright yeah screw poking Im going back to school of bonk for dueling. how I missed this.
thorn warren
so I decided to part time as a blueberry on my main, as you do
I get called into this guys world
and the man just, ends the fight.
before I see it.
sir, why are you calling on blueberry aid?
just, do it yourself.
if you dont know what a blueberry is, its my charming term for blue summons, the auto summons.
vestal pewter
sir, why are you calling on blueberry aid?
it usually calls for aid when the invasion takes a certain amount of time they dont directly call for aid they just opt in to people coming to help
thorn warren
it usually calls for aid when the invasion takes a certain amount of time they d...
no I know that
the fact the man had it on to begin with is an embarassment
well I just sequence broke "Gaol Cave" by accident
you can jump to the end where the shiny loot is
I was just explorin a beach
cunning onyx
well I just sequence broke "Gaol Cave" by accident
omg thats your back and you're wearing the pumpkin head helmet while using the big red spike weapon
i was like..
what is that thing
what're you wearing
thorn warren
oh thats very easy!
cunning onyx
took a while to decode xD
cunning onyx
fair enough :v
thorn warren
the pumpkin head causes some.... clipping issues at times.
cunning onyx
yeah i believe ya :v
thorn warren
I wear it mostly for the PvP protection and it looks better than the other ultra heavy options.
seriously where is havel armour.
cunning onyx
im currently rolling almost full golden sentinel set i think its called ?
thorn warren
why is all the heavy stuff SO GOD DAMNED UGLY
the DLC better spot me with some new ultra heavy gear.
please.
cunning onyx
using the dragon knight dudes chest the tree variant
thorn warren
ahhh, fun stuff.
for the longest time I wore a weird mix of armour.... lemme try to remember it.
I think it was lion pants and gloves, female crucible body, and then slime helm.
after a while I just started pumping up end to extreme heights and well, thats how I got where I am now.
95 endurance.
cunning onyx
oh trust me my go to normally is to find a piece from different sets for each slot and make it fit together :v
thorn warren
send help I have an addiction
cunning onyx
but atm im still just going for stats
thorn warren
mhm. I see.
cunning onyx
im mage build so i wore mage lady bosses hat for a while for the int xD
cunning onyx
yes
cunning onyx
because i needed defences more :v
cunning onyx
and it looks kinda goof xD
thorn warren
it looks so stupid
cunning onyx
besides im at like... 60 int now
thorn warren
you wanna know the dumbest part of my build Urutta?
cunning onyx
tell me
thorn warren
that great star isn't my primary weapon.
my primary weapon is the Misercorde.
you know the tiny but long ranged dagger?
because most of my damage comes from Black Flame Blade and other black flame incants because Im in NG+7
every boss has so much health.
great star is my mobbing weapon, and given to my mimic tear for bossing because it can heal with it.
cunning onyx
lol
thorn warren
also my main PvP weapon.... when I can get into PvP.... yeah nobody really likes to do PvP hat high RL.... or just nobody actually.... plays up here anymore....
Im level 400 and I have nobody to play with.
I mean I get duels sure.
but its like hte same 7 people.
cunning onyx
im only lvl 120 or so xD
thorn warren
oh yeah, no Im.... far beyond where just about anyone reasonably plays.
legitimately its either 150-250, or max RL
thats about where stuff happens
even at max its going to be mostly just be people goofing around in arena
cunning onyx
thing is you would be better off making a new char and keep it around 160 or so max for the dlc xD
because the dlc stuff will scale to lvl
sooo
gl with it :v
thorn warren
thats not what they said Urutta.
the specific wording was that high level players would not be able to steamroll it due to a new way to power up.
thus keeping it useful, and competative, even for high levels.
also Im in NG+7. the enemies are already basically at my level.
I stopped being able to roflstomp the game about 3 NGs ago.
people still say roflstomp right?
thats still a thing right?
I didn't just date myself horribly there right?
dense saffron
I'm at 428, and I'm grinding to max level. Once done, I'm going to start and level a new character to 120 or so for the dlc. Not sure what build I'm going to prep for it though
thorny oracle
Obviously the correct build is Moon Laser.
dense saffron
I want to curb stomp the dlc with a max level, but if the articles are true, the dlc is going to be leveled to the players attack power like Sekiro did
dense saffron
I didn't just date myself horribly there right?
crickets chirping
It's ok Gurm. Pat on the back
thorn warren
thorn warren
I *want* to curb stomp the dlc with a max level, but if the articles are true, t...
That’s not what the articles said!!!
I just…
If we’re going to cite articles. Cite them correctly
Go back, re read what the man said.
dense saffron
Alright? Then I misunderstood something
thorn warren
Yes there will be an attack power scaling system
That’s ALL that’s been said.
Nothing to do with bosses adapting to your attack power.
Supposedly this is to keep it engaging even for high levels
points at black flame blade
That thing will not care.
So. Yes, attack power scaling will exist. How it exists and how it will work are complete unknowns.
dense saffron
*points at black flame blade*
That's if your Black Flames don't get nerfed for the Dlc
Kek
thorn warren
NOT MY % DAMAGE
I NEED THAT
IM NOTHING WITHOUT IT
alright that’s a lie but shhhh.
dense saffron
Insert spiderman meme
thorn warren
???
dense saffron
Spiderman meme where Peter was complaining to Tony about being nothing without the stark Spidey suit
thorn warren
I don’t think you’d like that Shadow
Me “going back” means bad things
cackles in fingerprint shield
dense saffron
Heh
I'll be honest, I don't really do builds all too much
Usually I just mess around with whatever I can use and is fun
But I'm about to try the game with a full bleed focus, just because I know it's busted and is going to be fun
Mostly I'm just distracting myself from the Farron poison swamp
thorn warren
Enjoy katanas and knives!
thorn warren
Mostly I'm just distracting myself from the Farron poison swamp
Farron was not that bad.
Farron was fairly easy.
dense saffron
I'm going back and finally finishing ds3, since I got the platinum for ER
dense saffron
Farron was fairly easy.
It's not that it's difficult
It's annoying more than anything
thorn warren
Did you use quick step.
dense saffron
It's looking at that freaking swamp, and remembering where I should be, but am not
dense saffron
Every time I reach that freaking swamp, I remember that my old character was so far past it, then I get depressed and want to cheer myself up with something else
dense saffron
The Lothric Twins!! They couldn't have kicked me out and stolen my shit like a week later or something?!
Uggghhh
It's really dumb too
I shouldn't be getting so worked up about it
It's just, remembering the amount of time I put into ds3 with that character, all of it completely blind, and then nothing
thorn warren
thorn warren
Hear ye hear ye ya local lore nerds. New Vaati on the topic of Mogh just dropped.
thorn warren
so I was doing some cleanup around hte lands between, trying to explore all the places I hadn't been n such.... and I found a lil rapier called "frozen needle"
an its.
its magnificent
I dont care how potentially terrible it is.
the thing has projectiles from heavies
alright nevermind false alarm, its a pvp gimmic weapon with awful scaling
into the forever box with you until I create a low level abomination using you
why does all the fun and interesting stuff have to scale so terribly
B in dex, with a D in strength. thats all it gets up to at +10. thankfully didn't upgrade the thing
and without arcane scaling, no boost to its freeze buildup, I just.... who designs these really really cool weapon ideas
and then dumpsters them with awful scaling
thorn warren
interesting NG+ thing Ive only recently noticed
everything apparently got a giant poise boost
given that its absurdly hard to stance break..... just about anything.
I mean you can
but well.... not by accident anymore.
before someone asks "how do you accidentally stance break something" its when you arent going for a stance break specifically but it happens anyways.
thorn warren
well I traded out my misercorde for something.... more.
a Nagakiba
the longest god damned katana in the game
thorny oracle
Ranni best maiden to lose one's maidenlessness to.
trim blaze
so many arms for the best hugs in the Lands Betweens
vestal pewter
what about the blind one
trim blaze
Deathbed companion is another top contender
lore-wise she's stealing your life force
thorn warren
lore-wise she's stealing your life force
I have 80 vigor. It’s fine.
trim blaze
getting sucked dry is one thing, sucked dry of life force isn't nice
trim blaze
i mean BG3 taugh us they can change at will
thorn warren
Fair nuff
trim blaze
nothing a little disguise self cannot help
thorn warren
True
vestal pewter
i feel like its a tiny amount sucked out to help said person ease better into death
you know cause death bed companion
thorn warren
It’s not even remotely that
Death bed companions suck life force out of others to revive the dead.
In Fias case, she’s trying to revive the guy who got stabbed.
vestal pewter
and yet shes lying with people at deaths door and her drain does take a small amount of life force
it would make sense that people at deaths door like that would be very small amount of health left
trim blaze
pretty sure her "killing" by absorbing the little left people have give her control over their spirit
vestal pewter
probably
trim blaze
i don't remember if she summon D.... she does summon Rogier despite his goal alligning with D's in a certain way
vestal pewter
still dont change that is probably what the deathbed companions are doing to people near death its literally in the name far as im concerned giving them comfort before they take the last of there life force
vestal pewter
the golden
trim blaze
Ranni and her brother?
thorn warren
Godwin the Golden
vestal pewter
godwyn the golden
i was going to do some praising but the right wording doesnt come to mind
thorn warren
huh doing everything really takes quite a bit in this game doesn't it.
also, just a slight question, WHY ARE THERE SO MANY ASTELS EVERYWHERE?!
trim blaze
there is just 2 or 3 no?
thorn warren
there is just 2 or 3 no?
2 full astels yes
buuuuuuuuuuuut
theres at least 3 other malformed ones that hang from the roof
and depending on how you count it the starfall beasts count too
and theres about 3 more of those
so theres like 8 astels
vestal pewter
many meteors crash on the surface?
and we got 2 or so of the youngings dont we
those antlion/bull looking creatures
ah you mentioned the starfall creatures i see
cunning onyx
wish me luck boyos
boreal moss
good luck
ocean grail
Starting NG+4. I thought I was already on 4 but ok
I need some horrendous drip for a dung eater run 
This'll do just fine
thorn warren
in 5 attempts or so
Nicely done!
cunning onyx
thanks 😄
thorn warren
I hope when they come back with the DLC they fix some of the stuttering issues
because seriously Im in Layndelle and its just.... awful
Im on medium and whenever I look back towards the entrance I get lag
and slowdown
just..... reduce load distance, or increase it to the point where thats always accounted for and thus not throwing off my timings.
ocean grail
The only lag I get is During Rykard’s cutscene, only HIS cutscene and it’s always at the exact same spots
thorn warren
I fixed Layndell.
my graphics driver was out of date
so um, maybe check your drivers.
thorn warren
I dont know if I shared this, but I love that I have capped out on certain items so completely even my storage is full.
Ive got I think just about every purchasable arrow type in this state
glass shards
throwing knives of multipel types
..... what else.....
idk lots of stuff
yes I bought the glass from patches because I felt like being nice
thorn warren
so, in case anyone ever wondered, the Mogwyn Ramp farm pays out (using golden beetle charm thingy to enhance gains) 116343 runes per clear.
vestal pewter
yeh its always a goofy fun place to go to for that
thorn warren
aka roughly 1/18th of what I need to level.
and htis is the most efficient farm in the game.
closing in on 1/19th actually
vestal pewter
18 more times to murder things
thorn warren
and thats for one level
Im level 404
mas RL is..... lemme check
713
thats 309 levels more to go!
wooooooooooo!
and I have MAXIMUM EFFICIENT FARMING UNLOCKED
ITS TIME FOR A LOTTA BLOOD
first things first, maxing out faith so that I can get one shot capabilities back.
apparenlty total rune ocst is 1,692,558,415
so thissle be fun
thorny oracle
Im level 404
Rune Level not found.
thorn warren
eheheheh
found my rune level again
405
which is apparently not allowed.
man I love that Im in the level range where I can start making HTTP jokes.
vestal pewter
which is apparently not allowed.
thorn warren
https://tenor.com/view/oh-ok-gif-7562907362786808474
HTTP error 405 "Method Not Allowed"
406 is "Not Acceptable"
vestal pewter
oh you mean the code
thorn warren
yes
vestal pewter
i thought you meant like level
thorny oracle
It was previously 404, which is Not Found.
thorn warren
exactly
ah shame, only gonna be able to make this joke up to level 599
..... level 418 is gonna be fun
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status#client_error_responses
just because someones gonna want it, theres the complete list.
cunning onyx
i did it !
spoiler tagged instead incase people dont know end boss like i didnt :v
jesus it was a bitch tho
took me 8 or 9 attempts
i first tried the boss before this tho
apparently i took 95 hours on this char trying to get as much done in a single playthrough as possible 
thorn warren
Awwwww yeah!
thorn warren
apparently i took 95 hours on this char trying to get as much done in a single p...
That’s not too bad.
I’ve heard tales of 120+
I myself am on nearly 500 hours on a single character
cunning onyx
im madge tho...
thorn warren
Why?
cunning onyx
the only legendary armament i was missing for the achivement i missed out on in pre ruin capitol :v
i got EVERY other achivement possible in a single run to get
so im madge
cunning onyx
i specifically didnt look shit up for the achivements before the very end because i knew idd most likely only be missing one or 2 things to get
only to find out idd screwed myself
dense saffron
At about 450, it requires 2.35 million runes to level once. Maxing out our characters are going to be a massive pain lol
dense saffron
PlayStation 5
dense saffron
I want to get a pc
I've been trying to save up for a long time now to get a good PC setup, but shit keeps coming up and wiping out my bank account
That said, it's been confirmed I'm getting a raise this summer, they want to give me and my coworkers to $20 an hr, which would definitely be nice
So once (if) that happens, I should finally be able to squirrel away a good amount so I can get a good pc
thorn warren
nice!
bad news is saves dont transfer.
I mean if you would still be playing elden ring by the summer
but yeah go you! raise is good!
dense saffron
Oh I am well aware saves don't crossover
I had that problem when I switched from the PS4 to the 5
dense saffron
Uuugh
thorn warren
dense saffron
It's still pain
And yeah, we're all pretty excited about the raise. I work security, and were contracted out to a bus system for my city. The management for the buses have been wanting to get us a raise for a long time now, but apparently there was an issue with that in the contract they signed with my company. My supervisors tried to give us a piddly 50 cent raise a few months ago, but since the contract is coming up this summer, the bus management is putting their feet down
Mostly for the day shift, admittedly. They deal with a hell of a lot. I deal with a bit, but the nightshift is by and large quiet. Not that I'm going to say no to a raise anyway, lmao
thorny oracle
Are the busses good busses, though, or are they the shitty kind with absolutely atrocious suspension because the budget is about $2?
dense saffron
Eh
My city bus system is partially funded by the city and state, and the rest by donations
thorny oracle
So the latter kind, where the functional expectable budget is $2.
dense saffron
So while the buses could definitely be better, they aren't bad at all
thorn warren
I mean, it depends on how much funding actually comes in
dense saffron
The bus system is pretty extensive over my city, and is pretty well funded
The problem with the raise wasn't with coming up with the money to pay us, and apparently was due to a raise cap having been in the contract they signed a few years ago when somebody else was in charge of operations
thorny oracle
Gotta love those "fuck the employees" clauses.
dense saffron
Yep
The dude wasn't well liked by anybody. I still hear some of the employees complain about when he was in charge, and universally the opinion was 'Fuck that guy' lmao
thorn warren
fair enough
ocean grail
i have made questionable choices. But the deed is done.
thorn warren
woo!
bronze solstice
Stank rune acquired
ocean grail
Dragon maw and sleep pot is still peak comedy
thorn warren
red albanurics in NG+7 have 2653ish HP, and need 65 FAITH for the aoe sword to kill em in one shot
the things you learn
thorn warren
look Im just saying if I have to face every video game enemy I killed when I die, theres going to be a titanic number of albernurics.
and they are going to be displeased.
vestal pewter
its going to be a mix of things for me
thorn warren
oh theres gonna be a lot of other things
but theres gonna be a LOT of albanurics
also I just remembered that Radahns Great Rune exists
and its basically the best one for my SL
+15% to health, FP, and Stam
all the others fell off the face of the planet over a hundred levels ago
this is the only good one around
I Hope DLC has another passable one
vestal pewter
you will get 8 radahns as well
thorn warren
what
no I wont
Ive only fought him.....
4 times.
theres gonna be a lot of dragons, margots, morgots, giants, etc.
vestal pewter
you said if you faced every video game enemy you killed thats 8 radahns
thorn warren
you said if you faced every video game enemy you killed thats 8 radahns
I didn't kill Radahn each playthrough
vestal pewter
wait you skipped radahn in 4 of your new game plus!?
vestal pewter
but its the festival
thorn warren
and it was slow
thorn warren
I have and did
vestal pewter
le horror
thorn warren
suffer
but yeah anyways
+15% for each major stat
fairly good
I mean if there was one that just boosted all my absorptions that would be better
but godfrey's +5 to all stats is ass
good early game
terrible afterwards
vestal pewter
you know i dont know why but the word absorption gave me a random thought
thorn warren
okay?
vestal pewter
what if say fromsoft ever did there own sci-fi or so on souls like game and they had a mutant and cybernetic thing and if you went down the mutant path you could just absorb enemies like Grime with some other stuff added in
vestal pewter
thats very obviously an armored core game
ocean grail
The DTS outside of Maliketh is the true final boss.
vestal pewter
you mean the big dragon thunder knight?
ocean grail
Ye
He can almost one shot me now but I need to kill him so I can buff properly
It’s a vicious cycle
thorn warren
Yup
Him and Maliketh are the final boss
Everyone else, including her, are a victory lap.
Specifically NG+ Maliketh.
He’s a right asshole.
vestal pewter
i fought honorable against him as a magic knight man
then i decided you know want honor died on the beach
so i bug wing galaxy exploded him
thorn warren
Your bug wings suck. They are not good. They are fun, interesting gimmick weapons. But not truly effective in late NG.
If it doesn’t work in +7 it’s not worth my time.
vestal pewter
killed maliketh in a few seconds
thorn warren
That’s nice.
vestal pewter
very nice
thorn warren
Now fight him in +7
vestal pewter
now stop trying to change my mind
vestal pewter
cause i make my own mind up on things
vestal pewter
and you will fail
thorn warren
So you claim
vestal pewter
there are better people who try and fail gurm
thorn warren
That’s nice.
vestal pewter
if my family and in real life friends cant convince me once im set on something a person who talks online to me never will
especially if its about someone literally having the audacity to come in and try to tell another person how to play a game
thorn warren
I said your weapons were fine. In NG+0
vestal pewter
and ill will continue to use it into any new game plus for that save file
vestal pewter
thorn warren
ocean grail
I’m on ng5 and stuff is finally pushing back against my disgusting damage output
And it hurts
ocean grail
Probably for a hot minute. What do you suggest?
thorn warren
Full goat, with pumpkin helm, greatshield talisman, pearl drake +2, and whatever else you can fill slots with.
At 80 health let’s me survive 2-3 attacks from most bosses at +7
Do note: midroll. God help you if you try this while heavy rolling.
Also use the black flame body buff
Yes it tanks your flask heal, ignore that. It boosts your phys def.
Now you could also use cooked crab but the spell is better.
Other than that, classic hyper buff setup.
And good luck.
This is roughly my personal setup, weapon has changed recently though.
Right now it’s the stupid long katana with lions fang on it.
Spells are slightly different too
But otherwise it’s close enough
vestal pewter
just be like that guy from bleach with the REALLY long katana
thorn warren
Ye
I’d use chunky sword but swing speed too slow
Not good for black flame applications
vestal pewter
to clarify the bleach guy could probably cut people from across the country it was so long
thorn warren
Oh also remember to use the absorption boost crystal tear.
thorn warren
to clarify the bleach guy could probably cut people from across the country it w...
I know
Good stuff
Hyper buffed defense is a long road
But with it, you too can survive 3 attacks from a ng+7 boss.
3 if it’s weak
Closer to 2 on most days.
But see that’s not the worst part of +7.
Everyone has a 40% poise buff
Making them nearly impossible to stun or poise break.
It’s insane.
There’s a reason I use black flames
Every boss dies in 40 hits at most.
Just gotta live that long.
trim blaze
just harder, more poise they have the more time they need to recover it
thorn warren
Yeah.
Do note: I have not once knocked down a troll.
Not even the high level ones
Fire Giant is just going to have to be burned to death
Because there is no way to get good damage on him.
So yes
It’s technically possible
Maybe if you did hundreds of poise damage in a few seconds
But otherwise? Ehhhhhh…………
thorn warren
Ahhhh, today is a good day for grinding. I’ve got soda, summoning salt, and work that I can put off for a few days before it has to happen. Bad news “today” is 12am.
thorn warren
Oh I should note my mogh farm setup that I said needed 65 faith? Also uses the holy scorpion charm.
Just for a hint more damage.
vestal pewter
i hate that i messed up on getting the magic scorpian one
thorn warren
Yeah it’s annoying
I wonder what ER would play like if you had every talisman equipped at the same time.
I mean what kind of build would you use?
Your damage absorption would be in the gutter.
thorn warren
I have 85 vig actually
thorn warren
Just leveled, wasn’t trying to do this.
thorn warren
Update on the grind. Faith is nearly 80!
2 more levels! Then next….
Uhhhhh….
Arcane? Maybe?
I mean at a minimum that’s one I want at 99 before DLC for item discovery.
It’s arcane or the FP stat
One of those to 80 next.
thorn warren
80faith got!
Next up, Mind, then Int, then Arc.
After that everything will be at 80, and then I can start going for 99s.
ocean grail
I killed DTS and Maliketh, just needed a break is all 
ocean grail
And now for my patented trick, blowing catch flame up Radagon’s butt
Comically easy
All endings got 
thorn warren
I killed DTS and Maliketh, just needed a break is all <a:alarun:8237500190435573...
Okay hold. How did you beat Mali. Because he always gives me hell.
ocean grail
I stayed under him to the best of my ability for the most part
If he got away I ran around a pillar
He can’t really hit you very well there
It wasn’t easy, I was low hp but I got him
ocean grail
Ye
thorn warren
I always ran around him.
ocean grail
Same with first phase tbh
ocean grail
Gotta be right in his crotch
ocean grail
I mean he can still hit you, and he’s highly mobile, but it’s definitely the easiest way
thorn warren
Fair
And next time I fight him I’ll have maxed stats
So maybe it will go better
Potential
Maybe I’ll use a light roll setup
ocean grail
I’m only lvl 340 
ocean grail
what we rocking this time. rip my poise
thorn warren
My buff of choice gives an extra 230 damage.
thorn warren
what we rocking this time. rip my poise
As long as you’ve got 51 you’ll be fine
51 and 101 are the major break points
ocean grail
cries in no poise
thorn warren
I’ve got med roll with goat and pumpkin.
Fear me.
With the right setup maybe I’ll even be able to….
light roll
thorn warren
Yeahhh
boreal moss
playing randomizer and getting Malenia's rune before being physically able to activate it is kinda funny
thorn warren
Neat
ocean grail
Do you think I can still use the comet azure thing on Mohg at ng7 or do you think it won’t work? I’m still going to try and fight him normally but I was curious if that strat is even a viable backup plan at that point of the game
thorn warren
Do you think I can still use the comet azure thing on Mohg at ng7 or do you thin...
Azure is one of the most powerful spells in the game, it should be fairly viable against bosses at all stages
now, it probably wont just one shot him
but it should do good
I also reccomend shard spiral as a good option
its one of the best spells in the entire game
I fought him in +6 and it went fairly cleanly in just meleeing the crap out of him.
but my build is also an abomination and an affront to the erdtree.
so, hard to say how you would do
ocean grail
Well if I can’t just pummel him to death like I did Maliketh I’ll respect and see, though it’s possible I may never know
thorn warren
remember to equip the tear
there is no way to tank through his phase change
he can and will just kill you if you dont have it
trust me, I tried.
ocean grail
Maliketh died so quickly tonight I was appalled by my own build
I gotcha
I’m rocking 81 poise rn, not absolute tank, but I’m doing alright
thorn warren
Maliketh died so quickly tonight I was appalled by my own build
okay seriously what is your magic with him
how does every time I fight Mali Im stuck in an actual hour of attempts and he just CHOOSES TO LET ME WIN
AND THEN YOU COME OUT HERE
AND KILL HIM QUICKLY
ocean grail
Occult greatsword with lions claw this time
Last time was reduvia aow spam on second phase
thorn warren
Im gonna roll up to him one of these days and its just gonna go my way
ocean grail
I only got hit once but the dot on that single hit almost killed me
I did kill that dts first try this time, so I’m getting the hang of him being tankier
ocean grail
Draconic tree sentinel
ocean grail
For some reason I have issues with that one in particular
I can fight the duo just fine
thorn warren
stick to the shield side, and stay at close range so that it cant do targeted lightning, get behind when you can.
thorn warren
thats how I beat him
so wait
I can fight the dragon knight
but you can fight maliketh
huh
ocean grail
I usually also sprint towards him on phase transition
Sometimes he stays there sometimes he says backflip time
thorn warren
wait okay question, what kind of build are you?
ocean grail
I no like backflip time
thorn warren
because Im a pally
thorn warren
hm
ocean grail
It’s funny and I like it
thorn warren
I see
strange
we should be roughly similarly effective against the same bosses
I guess its just my skill issue.
ocean grail
I mean I have the faith/arc to cast my buffs, but it’s like 2 buffs I bother with outside of my talismans
thorn warren
just 2 buffs huh
ocean grail
I know there’s like equipment that has buffs based on status and stuff
thorn warren
looks at first half of spell list being all buffs
thorn warren
I know there’s like equipment that has buffs based on status and stuff
oh I dont use the equipment that gives buffs. too light. not enough tank.
yes I know that you cant stack body buffs
I just like having options
ocean grail
I used just black flame protection, opaline bubble tear, and strength knot tear because I have no idea what I actually want to switch it with/keep forgetting. I had the big defense tali, shard of Alex and i forgot the third tali that actually mattered 
Probably axe because I had planned on using more charged heavies than I actually did
4th was just gold scarab because money
thorn warren
hmmm
I sees
so BFP is a body buff, meaning you could also do an aura buff, I'd reccomend replacing strength knot with a stamina regen booster because rolling is good.
please for the love of god use something other than scarab.
unless you are farming please gothics.
ocean grail
I like money
thorn warren
GOTHICS
ocean grail
thorn warren
gothics Im going to kill you and nobody will find the body.
ocean grail
Are there any decent farming spots before Mohg palace or do I have to snowfield/varre every time
I honestly don’t know which one I hate more
thorn warren
Are there any decent farming spots before Mohg palace or do I have to snowfield/...
well theres the eternal city farm
but that one is kinda annoying
technically the haligtree prayer room is different
but that still requires snowfield
uhhhh....... what else is a good farm.....
hm
the knights and dogs outside of redmane castle are a good choice.
although again, annoying
eternal city farm is the run up towards rani's blade with all the silver tears
ocean grail
Mhm
thorn warren
the bonfire being literally right there is pretty handy
but outside of those..... there aint much
ocean grail
Oh that one, I thought you meant the other one where they explode
thorn warren
honestly I hate Varre so much I just kill him
and then just take the long way round
thorn warren
Oh that one, I thought you meant the other one where they explode
...... what.
who explodes.
oh the electric silver tears
ocean grail
The silver tears
thorn warren
no the electric silver tears are stupid
Im talking the rani blade run up with all the transforming ones
that while annoying, pays well
ocean grail
I gotcha now
thorn warren
its a fairly hidden one that I dont think really got cautified online
everyone just found mogwyn palace and called it a day
whiel Ive got a few spots I like
but mohg is best
ocean grail
Frog murder
thorn warren
Ive killed thousands
I did give their next generation a chance
but Ive killed SO MANY
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think Im a bad person
thorn warren
I see
to quote poyo poyo tetris "YOURE A BAD MAN!"
https://youtu.be/z53ImZFol-4?t=393
quote found here at time stamp
just try to ignore Schezo being Schezo
ocean grail
So the answer is I don’t know because he died right as he started phase transition 
Also I forgot to fowl foot 
thorn warren
YOU DO NOT NEED THAT MANY RUNES
thorn warren
I see
ocean grail
Ah yes, my least favorite thing, the archers
ocean grail
Holy scaling
thorn warren
archers?
there are archers in this game?
I know some crossbowmen
maybe some knights
but not much else
ocean grail
The ones in Ordina, but I was trying to go get the envoy hat, but I can’t go the way from under the big guy, he 2 shots me when I’m trying to run over. I have to go the long way from where you spawn in
thorn warren
ordina.... ordina.......
OHHHHHHHH
THOSE GREMLINS
I reccomend the fetal position
I used to have a functional stratagy against them
I uhhh, kinda forgot it
ocean grail
I get hit by as much as two bubbles I’m just dead on the spot
It’s okay I’m already past that at least
thorn warren
I have no idea
thorn warren
remember to actually upgrade your god killing spear
I uhh, might have forgotten to do that my first time round
it went as poorly as you'd think
ocean grail
It’s been +10 for a while
thorn warren
well thats great
ocean grail
basically how ng7 malenia is going
thorn warren
basically how ng7 malenia is going
well see you make a big mistake here.
a real nasty big ol mistake
you got hit
dont do that
ocean grail
its ok i just ran the wrong way during a waterfowl and died
think the sword is a little slow
ocean grail
im just trying to attack when i shouldnt and realizing half a sec too late
the last part of waterfowl, im supposed to run away again yea?
thorn warren
yeah
the wait then swish
ya just gotta know its coming
its about half a second to a second gap
basically just enough time to roll for your life
ocean grail
I just feel like I’m running really slow
cunning onyx
thorn warren
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
next up, Int, and then Arcane all the way to 99 (if I even get it there before release date)
yes yes "its got different scaling, stats dont matter"
and my response to that is "okay and?"
my character. my stupid ideas
also yes stats do matter reasonning behind that is in this box ||you are all overinterpriting what was stated go watch some of the gameplay that was released along with associated commentary.||
thorn warren
I think..... I think souls PvP moved on without me
its all statuses and dodging and having perfect counters
which is all just..... so..... disapointing.
also
also just to complain on this point again
all the respect in the pvp dueling area, has gone out the window
everyone just attacks
but besides that I think..... its moved on without me.
which just makes me sad.
I just…. How did it get this way?
How did it go from a game of chip and whittling into bleeding people in 2 hits and killing them within seconds
Also, this is SL 500. Why are people using meta. You don’t grind here on accident.
Unless I’m being scaled down and brought to some weird grey area of PvP but that doesn’t feel likely.
I also wonder if DR works differently in PvP. I know there’s other changes I’m wondering if I’m not getting full value out of my stats…. Hm.
Either way. I’m washed up.
I need to rethink….. most of my builds.
And by builds that really means weapon loadouts on my one character
also
ALSO
Ive got 96 poise
how the hell am I getting poise broken
thorn warren
anyways, I really hope the DLC has even heavier armour
cause Ive got 99 endurance now
and I need a use for it
thorn warren
106 levels left
3 mil souls per level
by the end of this grind its going to be 4 million per level with the capstone final level ebing 5 million souls
runes
whatever
anyways Ive got like..... 15 days to do this
woo
alright..... neeeew plan.
cause Ive done some math
and it doesnt look good
Im going to get INT up to 60
and then just go ham on arcane
ehhh might sotp at 50
idk
I just dont wanna get to the point that each level takes upwards of 30-40 runs
bronze solstice
Elden Ring
changed the title so it fits on the side view a bit better
since the whole forum is different now
bronze solstice
it was the only one with UGC in name
I saw
I am waiting for the DLC to dive into it again
but as a fresh start
bronze solstice
too many mods
bronze solstice
So vanilla restart
thorn warren
I see
you know Im fairly certain I know where all the blood in this mogh palace came from
Im pretty certain I put this all here
theres a lot of dead albranurics
thorn warren
yeah
I also just found a new shortcut to the blood lake area
theres a side path
that I just
never noticed before
anywho, back to the wonton slaughter of the downtrodden and abused.
wow that sounds real bad when I phrase it like that
I miss the shield of want, crystal sage poke stick, and symbol of averice.
although well in this setup you could only use one of those first 2
but my point stands
there are not nearly enough rune boosters in this game
bronze solstice
There is
thorn warren
and if the DLC adds some Im going to be...... hm........ well lets just say Im going to tear my hair out
bronze solstice
for the intended play
thorn warren
for the intended play
IM PLAYING AS INTENDED