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#Community Village Game
grizzled birch
Just back to main menu
Even in singleplayer, its the return to main menu option
queen pasture
Thats why I like mods like WardIsLove
Expands the whole Ward system past "you cant build here"
Like adding a bubble shield config
urban olive
Like adding a bubble shield config
Like the merchant has?
queen pasture
I mean a forcefield to keep monsters out
urban olive
Oh neat
queen pasture
Or a mod to adjust raids would be nice
Some also just straight up remove dmg to anything besides players inside a ward
urban olive
Modded valheim sounds like a treat
queen pasture
Many QoL things
My list for goofing around atm
Few keynotes :
Plant everything means everything that is harvestable in the overworld like bushes , berries , dandelions , shrooms
Even stone , branches and flint that respawn after some time
But for all you can set the ammount of resource needed to plant it
Like 30 Berries for a bush
Or 50 Flint for a single respawning flint
TripleBronze is just logical IMO
2 Copper + 1 Tin = 3 Bronze ingame
Unlike 1 vanilla
Fuel Eternal is set so only torches and campfires run without fuel. cooking , smithing and such have fuel consumption
NonRestrictedPortals I need to config but it will be set to allow the restricted items but takes % of them during travel
And the carts one is literally all crafting stations available as a cart
royal notch
When you get the chance, can you do the revoking?
grizzled birch
Not the best thing in the world, but works for docking two of the large ships when needed
I'll build some kind of large roof over it in addition to a proper area I think
The main concern is the water, since waves can go above the layer the platform is built on just barely, hence the raised fire pits
But for a 'functional' port, it already works, minus the fact boats in this game are a pain to steer and you should just accept colliding with the walls
Not really happy with it, but eh
long oak
Or you could just, not have the port that skinny
grizzled birch
Or you could just, not have the port that skinny
Can't even reach lower with the build tool
This really isn't the type of place I would have picked for a port
long oak
Hm
Not great
Personally I would have put the port on the mountain
Good place for boats there
grizzled birch
Personally I'd have picked one of these three areas
Instead I was asked to build where there were like 3 large rocks and a big drop-off into the ocean lol
In addition to the south of here, the north side would have also had a few good spots
Because they have small islands that would extend how far I could build
Thoughts @long oak ?
long oak
I like building in inlets, not really at a place to take a good look at those maps but if you selected an inlet I agree
Sure that usually really limits where I build, but eh, it’s more fun that way
grizzled birch
I like building in inlets, not really at a place to take a good look at those ma...
The places I highlighted, most of them had a small island just off the coast, not rocks but actual land. And technically if we repurposed a chunk of the dark forest, theres an entire river we could turn into some kind of ship lane
long oak
Ah. Islands also good.
urban olive
Many QoL things
Are any of these mods pure client side things I could use to improve my gameplay without it needing to be on server side?
grizzled birch
Are any of these mods pure client side things I could use to improve my gameplay...
Technically yes a lot of them, if not most
The server for the game really doesn't check for actual player actions as much as it should for anti-cheat.
Even the plant everything mod, to plant spawners for berry bushes can function on the server without it having something server side
But thats the point where I want Weegy to weigh in for that one
I've been using craft from containers, trash items, mass farming, farming grid and VNEI for quick recipe lookup; but a lot more than that work
Since they tend to either remove running back to a container, or trying to properly 'grid' plants
grizzled birch
Are any of these mods pure client side things I could use to improve my gameplay...
I do reinforce the opinion though, we want an actual moderator or something; or popular vote, if anyone plans to use the plant everything mod
Because the server does not check those kinds of things and allows those actions freely otherwise
I personally wonder if they gave up on an anti-cheat to any degree because the game is already laggy with more than like 3-4 people on at a time lol
Anti-cheat would make it even slower
urban olive
I was mostly just thinking of things that optimize my game so I don't play at 10 FPS
which I do right now
grizzled birch
Ah for that just download more ram \s
Is it a specific action that drops your FPS or just in general?
Might be too much world exploring causing too much data?
queen pasture
Actually there are mods for game performance
Client side stuff
And many mods already have the client/server only split
prisma oak
moved most of the portals to greater hall
and made a lazy portal from greater hall to workshop
urban olive
Okay, I'll download that, thank you!
Other than that, I'm not gonna download any mods that aren't mod approved
noble rover
@royal notch whats your steamid
royal notch
^ with no spaces
noble rover
the numbers
bleak citrus
also dont know if its different now with later events but during the grey dwarf events they always attacked around your house whenever it happened at base
grizzled birch
also dont know if its different now with later events but during the grey dwarf ...
The raid Bs happens when you are near at least 3 player built things and with a percent chance basically just under every hour; I assume a chance per person to activate
So basically any time you are at an actual building
bleak citrus
no jaz im not talking about that im talking about how during the grey dwarf attacks whenever i was at the homebase 3 of the attacks all came from Cades house direction
so it turned from me defending the base to me defending cades house
grizzled birch
I mean thats either RNG or something to do with location
Might try and spawn them in an adjacent chunk that doesn't contain a building
And the wall might barely be outside of that
bleak citrus
trolls was a little better i was outside the base planting a tree farm and they came from that direction for once
noble rover
<@&1055138998475042847> Announcement!
This one isn't related to the game but related to the server.
We greatly appreciate wander hosting this on his dime, so we'd like as much feedback as we can get about the server host and how the server performs.
For now we'd like you to point out when theres noticable amounts of lag, desync or any other server side issues. thank you for helping us provide the best experience
limber surge
it's laggy from time to time
bleak citrus
the most noticeable lag for me was the door and chests not opening when i come through a portal but thats when there are plenty of people on
limber surge
yep
noble rover
it's laggy from time to time
more specific
bleak citrus
so please leaves the front workshop door open please
noble rover
amounts of people
bleak citrus
dont close it
limber surge
more specific
while in the ocean on a boat
bleak citrus
if you do ill be coming for you
static pelican
"thank you for helping us provide the best experience"
Customer service quote right there
limber surge
boats tend to lag alot lol
royal notch
only laggy when many people in the same spot
bleak citrus
but yeh leave door open when there are plenty of people on cause lag wont let us open said door
grizzled birch
The moment there is anyone teleporting on a server with 2+ people; it can take 5+ seconds to interact with any object
bleak citrus
i want to say 3 or 4+
grizzled birch
I've gotten it with just 2
long oak
<@&1055138998475042847> Announcement!
This one isn't related to the game but rel...
I’ll try.
grizzled birch
Me and Ty earlier, the door did not open for a good few seconds
bleak citrus
Ty was on
long oak
You are across the pond.
long oak
Could have something to do with that jaz
bleak citrus
You are across the pond.
im across the ocean
im further away then probably most people
limber surge
anyone on atm?
bleak citrus
long oak
Bah
bleak citrus
i aint on
grizzled birch
Either way I was told to give numbers, the teleporting was to main base from forward, just a bit south of there; not even to one of the long distance ones but both of us going through the portal slowed it down on my end trying to interact with things for a few seconds
timid pond
One thing I can recommend to doing is using a mod to revert terrain changes after mining. I remember sending terrain change data was a significant part of lag in Valheim
grizzled birch
Literally paths after paths of extensions to the terrain XD
long oak
grizzled birch
Damn people messaging and pushing up the messages
long oak
Her hoo penut.
bleak citrus
the wild hunt comes!
grizzled birch
I am half expecting it tbh
bleak citrus
at least im technically ready to attempt to map some mountains
grizzled birch
If I can finish my armour I'd help, just the mid piece left
bleak citrus
you will probably get to go wild cause im planning to find a suitable stone ruin and just fixing it
also note when im in there im not staying to fight things im fleeing for my life from things
grizzled birch
I have my atgier; if it walks, it will die
bleak citrus
and then the ground moved and stood up
bleak citrus
i cant wait to finally get back to my normal shields i miss parrying
all i got is super block from serpent shield
grizzled birch
I'll get back on in a second tell me and we can hop in voice or something; just gonna finish my book
Didn't want a raid to appear while I'm tabbed out lol
Oh? I forgot serpent shields opened at this tier
bleak citrus
yep i only got it so i didnt have to make an iron shield thing
i might make a shield again in either the silver or black metal era
grizzled birch
I like the banded shield as the only item you can craft with variant cosmetics
Because shields with paint colours
Anyway I need like one more root drop to finish my setup and I think I have to hunt down some fine wood to make some of my other stuff
prisma oak
south and southwest mountains each had a frost cave, but not much more than that
didn't check east mountain yet
grizzled birch
Anyway yeah Dinga, if you plan to do stuff tell me so I can finish hunting down da roots and join ya
bleak citrus
are you telling me you already checked my great big mountain
-_-
you better of updated the map so i at least know where you have been
grizzled birch
Lol
prisma oak
southwest was not that big
bleak citrus
if its miles into the sky
then yes i say its big
damn were those mountains hell just fighting a wolf was an experience fighting on a sheer cliff wall
back in my other server days
well im probably going to get on now @grizzled birch
grizzled birch
How much do we care about guck
royal notch
Do they ever go back to normal tree?
grizzled birch
Die? I killed it easily lol
I just kited it for a minute around one of the unbreakable trees
We wanna voice?
grizzled birch
yeh your going to die in the mountains
No?
bleak citrus
yeh when we go to the mountains im wearing my iron armor once we reach it
grizzled birch
Oh I miscounted, I had enough roots already
rustic cosmos
Having more roots wood be nice
prisma oak
i've just been jumping onto crypts to fight abominations
i already farmed to quality 3 root armor
urban olive
damn, y'all leavin me behind lmao
limber surge
Get on then!
rustic cosmos
I need to upgrade mine 
urban olive
thanks my dude
Okay so after it's installed, do I need to run valheim through the stunderstore mod launcher or can I launch it through steam and it'll be working?
timid pond
though modman
it lets you keep the game vanilla or with mods
urban olive
thanks double my dude
quartz olive
Would any of y'all be interested in introducing me to the Valheim server?
Never played the game before
grizzled birch
Would any of y'all be interested in introducing me to the Valheim server?
Sure
quartz olive
alright vc?
grizzled birch
Yeah
grizzled birch
Jaz take him to the golems
I expect my main issue with Valheim is gonna happen lol
bleak citrus
just chuck him over the wall to never be seen again
limber surge
Would any of y'all be interested in introducing me to the Valheim server?
sure!
bleak citrus
throw him over the wall dawn!
limber surge
throw him over the wall dawn!
no >:(
bleak citrus
urban olive
I should practice with a boat
urban olive
I am spending my day in valheim chopping up all these logs that someone chopped down but didn't finish cutting up?
long oak
It happens
urban olive
they've been here for 1 to 2 real life weeks
long oak
grizzled birch
Depending on location could be someone fighting with a troll
royal notch
or 4 boss deer at once
urban olive
I'm not complaining, to be clear
I'm more just astounded that there are so many
I'm getting my woodcutting skill up while doing this so it's chill
static pelican
Chopping trees? I only roll them back and forth til they explode
prisma oak
though it may not be viking accurate, i wish valheim had a paddle-wheel boat type
long oak
I wish there was some form of light automation, and maybe, just maybe, flight.
I mean we got snagged by Huggin at the beginning of the game, what’s to say we can’t do that to some other mythical being.
Like goats. I think flying goats were a thing in Norse mythos.
bleak citrus
at first i thought you said just paddle boat and i was about to comment the boats do have paddles
long oak
Dinga you fool
bleak citrus
there could be magic automation
maybe when ashlands is a thing
or maybe the biome to the far north with content
i was staring at the mountain golems for long times as i waited on raised ground wall for others to come help me
long oak
Neato
I just want more forms of movement and again, light automation. Kinda like graveyard keeper, where it’s not better than you just doing it, but it helps.
bleak citrus
there is apparently necromancy to summon skeletons to defend you
long oak
Huh
urban olive
Imagine taming a troll and jumping on its back and controlling it
bleak citrus
wait right there
the best i can give you is the troll doing squats by the shore along one of south coast areas
bleak citrus
@limber surge you been in any more caves since last time?
limber surge
None
bleak citrus
goooood makes it easier for me to mark and cross out stuff when we get back on whenever that is
i still remember that first cultist just setting light to the corridor barely missing me
rustic cosmos
I forgot to mention that I found a troll cave on the other side of the mountain, I marked it on the map
grizzled birch
Time for me to care about OSHA regulations I guess
prisma oak
are we continuing the "boss on saturday at 7pm est" schedule?
grizzled birch
Probably, since it happened even without weegy actively watching
bleak citrus
makes me wonder will you be doing anything at our mountain ruin
cause i think i even said "go wild" with a castle there
grizzled birch
Dinga I have a very specific plan for that place
bleak citrus
very good
prisma oak
do you request a helping hand?
grizzled birch
Overall probably I will yeah, the thing I'm considering is gonna take a lot of stone
That material we somehow ran out of; what have people even done? XD
Did the walls take that much Dinga?
bleak citrus
we had plenty of stone after that
we had stone still long after the raise ground wall was done
i didnt even do that wall
the only stone thing ive ever done is the work shop fire place and the fire place in the swamp base
grizzled birch
Really doesn't feel safe to be alone XD
Killed a wolf and killed a fen within a minute of showing up there
little obsidian
Are the stone piles under the workshop gone?
bleak citrus
Really doesn't feel safe to be alone XD
Killed a wolf and killed a fen within a ...
you should of seen me when i was building the wall that hopefully blocks off most of the golem spawns and i go round the wall to get to base for some things and a werewolf is just there
grizzled birch
Futureproofing note to self:
Portal is named
Main Mount
On the small offchance I press the wrong button
bleak citrus
its that cause i couldnt fit main mountain
grizzled birch
Oh you are fine, I just don't trust myself while spamming dismantle
grizzled birch
its that cause i couldnt fit main mountain
So, unless get a major complaint, I'm not walling the side attached to the cliff
Think I'm just gonna attach the roof on top and not build the inside wall
grizzled birch
I'm just working out if I build all 4 sides of the box, or use the mountain to be two of the sides
grizzled birch
Might need a bit more iron for the place but I'll try and continue it later; been ill this week
bleak citrus
did you get more from any of the other crypts from the nearby swamp or just use what we already had over there?
the only other thing that would make that island better is if we find out it had dragon and plains boss spawns on it
grizzled birch
I only used a bit of the iron we have, didn't want to use it all and run out with an important thing unbuilt
grizzled birch
What the heck just happened XD
Can people even log off mid raid or something and have it time out?
I got on, jumped over the village wall to go hit some rocks, a log troll, 2 brutes, 2 shamans and like 3 normals just happened to be there attacking me
No red raid or 'forest shifting' that event can't even happen anymore
Day 327, is that just a normal roaming group at night now?
That casual meadows walks has 1 star greydwarves and log trolls
bleak citrus
that makes sense
you probably werent around when we discovered the nearby troll
also yeh brutes and shamans spawn real often anywhere at night now in meadows
prisma oak
we have a lot of troll hide at this point, is it still useful or just obliterator fodder
grizzled birch
Technically it makes the iron tier spear, ancient bark spear
But other than that and the cosmetic horn of celebration, it has no further uses
bleak citrus
as a just in case we need to give newer people something to wear
blah after losing my bronze spear in the mountains im going full fang spear when we get to it
grizzled birch
Honestly its in our best interest to just load up a large chest with a few maxed out troll leather kits for people at spawn
prisma oak
are spears just bows but worse?
grizzled birch
We have had people already craft most of it
Spears are worse bows with a pretty ok melee attack and shield usage without needing to swap mid combat
bleak citrus
there handy cause you can pick them back up if you do happen to throw it and i at least find it handy to use against trolls
grizzled birch
Honestly I don't tend to throw spears to begin with, they don't stack or anything and leaves you a bit out of it weapon wise
bleak citrus
i just parry then spear that bugger
the only downside i see with spears is that dont throw them around cliffs and ocean
you will lose it
but yeh i do lots of stabs with it against trolls after parry
that and it has saved me from mosquitos during whole time I had no bow
prisma oak
think i'll get a "frostner" as my post- bonemass melee
grizzled birch
I mean, technically isn't that just merchant bound if you don't have the thing
Or was it one of the kill bosses for shop unlock
bleak citrus
i dont see the issue seeing as we have a shop
prisma oak
wiki says post-bonemass merchant as of mistlands update
bleak citrus
huh did not know we get another slam down hammer with ymir flesh
guess thats a thing now next stage of stag hammer
grizzled birch
We need da cloud berreh for more stamina
bleak citrus
i aint going into the plains
grizzled birch
What was that thing you wanted me to build in a dangerous location? 😛
Nah I joke, but stamina potions are my emergency button
bleak citrus
at least its safer then the plains!
its like when you were asking for stamina potions when we were still in the bronze era
grizzled birch
You'd barely have to spend a few minutes there, while I have to spend hours 😛
Oh raid
bleak citrus
to be fair i did have to spend hours in the swamps before anyone even went into them
and i did have to defend the main base from 3 or 4 raids while in game alone
i think i finally went bugger it and put spikes around the gate they like to attack
grizzled birch
I was outside the wall mining rock next to that persons house when they attacked, couldn't really just sit back on that one
bleak citrus
they really like attacking that place whenever the event is at homebase
grizzled birch
Well since @noble rover wanted to know, mining rocks near the base we have, with Syrup helping out, sometimes it takes 1-3 seconds for the rocks from boulders to drop when broken
Sure I have sims 4 open in the background but I can otherwise interact with the game perfectly so the delay should probably be connection side
Seems to have gotten better after moving away from Syrup and it immediately starts lagging and delaying the drops by a few seconds the moment I'm near them again
So there might be something related to peer-to-peer lag or something if the server is switching from a more 'local' host for AI and items, to multiple people
grizzled birch
Actually before I forget, currently remaking the greater hall if you want a first hand view of it
Since you wanted the class in it all, watching stuff in progress might be something you'd like to see
left frigate
heck, the one bad day for it, I gotta go to bed early today so I cannot
grizzled birch
No problem then, I have to build the mountain keep later on anyway, just wondered since this is possibly the final bit of woodwork building I'd be doing in a while
Ty is helping out
Oh just in case someone is curious, it is Ctrl + F3 for removing the HUD
Keep in mind that it hides it all, including inventory screens and build menus
bleak citrus
looks like you built high enough for the nearby mountain biomes to effect it
grizzled birch
Lol yup
bleak citrus
i noticed it first with syrups treehouse
grizzled birch
Yeah
The plan is to build the roof at 45 degrees like it should have been, not 26; but it'll take a while to replace it all lol
left frigate
I need to take some stones and build the beacon proper
bleak citrus
i know a place or 2 for straight up building a lighthouse beacon
left frigate
ye
bleak citrus
it was when i was sailing to where our mountain stuff is that i randomly found 2 potential spots out at sea for building stuff
grizzled birch
Thanks for the help @prisma oak if thats you done for today. You've been an MVP to this whole thing
prisma oak
yeh, 2am already so that's enough game tonight
grizzled birch
Hope I haven't given you a fear of heights with this last bit lol
bleak citrus
you should of seen my full on sprinting down the mountain side
i was sideways going down that
grizzled birch
you should of seen my full on sprinting down the mountain side
This is more, balance beams at fall-death height
Rather than just running about, its the accuracy
bleak citrus
Dawn reaction to me saying "im going straight down!" was "wait what?"
i dont think you get i was running down a straight cliff that i could very much of died going down
grizzled birch
Which I'm saying is different to having to spend an hour on a tightrope, carefully placing objects with a slip meaning death
bleak citrus
well that and ive done alot of highs stuff where i either die cause i slipped or if i did slip would lose all my health
technically if i messed up running down that hill fully sideways i too would of died so
grizzled birch
Yup; I'm just saying, spending an hour concentrating on not falling down is different to a fun run down a hill. I used to do that in parcore, fun thing to do
Mental fatigue was my question regarding heights
bleak citrus
if you ever did get around to helping me with my bridge in my world its going to very much be like that
i hate that thing but i must cross the fjord
prisma oak
wish jump skill slightly reduced fall damage
grizzled birch
I've also figured out how to make the roof semi-idiot proof, so barely anyone is gonna die from it later if they tried going up it
bleak citrus
also the almost falling to my death repeatedly thing cause i always ran out of stamina mountain goat jumping on a straight face cliff just before reaching a safe spot
i think dawn decided to go the normal way and be safe
prisma oak
in general my gripes with valheim have mainly been that skill levels give too narrow of benefits
bleak citrus
the running and jumping ones can be quite extreme honestly
i dont need to hit deer at range or sneak up to them i can just run them down
grizzled birch
Considering humans used to long distance run after prey to tire it out rather than get into melee with risk of harm, seems legit
bleak citrus
they didnt long distance run we walked after them until we got close and then we did a short burst of speed or just relied on the walking after them until they collapse trick
hell even what im doing with no food buffs just locating them getting close then finally running at them is probably more accurate
just without the spear part to throw at them
grizzled birch
I'm so happy I'm idiot proofing this roof XD
bleak citrus
does it have railings at the edge of the roofing?
grizzled birch
I really shouldn't be focusing on it as much as I have
Nah, I've hidden the really steep steps inside the roof tiles, so they stop you from slipping like you would normally on the 45 degree edges
They are barely noticable, but I've put them around the bottom edge of the roof and they basically catch anyone slipping from low stamina
rustic cosmos
I meant to get on tonight but I just kept reading
Hopefully I can get one before 7 tomorrow
grizzled birch
I meant to get on tonight but I just kept reading <:OH_NO:593894400355074050>
Honestly I've been doing both, two screens
I think someone failed somewhere in the walls
This isn't even a raid, just something that keeps happening
Second time today a shaman has been stood there attacking that workbench
I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
bleak citrus
I think someone failed somewhere in the walls
no its good things just spawn inside sometimes
grizzled birch
I'm so high
Up on a building 😛
I've had to build multiple workbenches all the way up this thing due to their range not being enough
grizzled birch
Still got a bit of finishing up to do
But theres the new greater hall
I'm happy I got to do the 45 degree stuff properly on top of the raised middle roofing
Unsure if I like it being so 'close' to the first roof, but it works?
Dunno, I'll await input from others on the roofing
I almost feel like I have to raise it up higher to be more noticable and make it wider for effect
Even though that is the 3/4/3 pattern we had before, the change in angle has made it kind of muted
bleak citrus
its funny cause though you probably shouldnt be using it for the structure but you could make crystal windows
just to fill in those openings
grizzled birch
For something like this due to the internal fires, I can't just window it all up, plus crystal looks horrible in massive tiling
bleak citrus
its also confusing especially if you remember dawn using it to window that tempory stuff we had at the mountain base
i couldnt tell what was wall and what was open space to walk through
but yeh i know im going to be using crystal for an axe
grizzled birch
To prove a point actually
This is why I dislike crystal 'windows'
(My own world with the materials I had on hand, none of the actual server stuff)
grizzled birch
its funny cause though you probably shouldnt be using it for the structure but y...
- Crystal will not attach to itself, you need to have one side supported by a non-crystal block/wall
- Crystal is not fully transparent, its own texture will get in the way
- Crystal will reflect light, completely destroying visiblity
bleak citrus
did you see our mountain base when Dawn randomly put it in i couldnt even properly see it
grizzled birch
Yes I was the one who had to tear it down to start building the mountain keep
bleak citrus
i think I only 100% knew where to go to leave properly when someone put a door in
grizzled birch
Either way, I don't like crystal as a building material, they didn't do well in designing it
Its too 'rough' to be used in large quantities, reflects too much light and everything
But in small quantities, serves no real purpose
And it would be a pain to try and set up, since every 1x1 crystal block, needs to be intentionally placed on an adjacent support
I really don't know why, every other item can be placed in a location as long as it can be attached to 'something'
But crystal refuses to just attach to something valid, if your cursor itself is on another crystal, even if it being placed would be valid on the other sides
bleak citrus
i dont like it either
blame Dawn for putting at the mountain as a wall before you worked on it
i prefer it in my axe when I finally get around to it
bleak citrus
well ive seen a stream of that big brain bug from the mistlands
they were just watching it from a distance
nevermind there going to fight it
prisma oak
so bonemass in 4 hours?
grizzled birch
I don't know if @noble rover has any other plans for it but I assume if we end up with enough players and someone properly notifying others then maybe?
<t:1674345600:F> is <t:1674345600:R>
noble rover
I may be around?
I've got a big essay to do/super tired
if @static pelican or you want to run it jaz, thats fine with us
grizzled birch
I could be convinced to drop work with a deadline of 12 hours from that time depending on player count
grizzled birch
I've been ill for half the week, but sure
noble rover
it mainly depends if people are around for it
or it could simply be pushed till tomorrow
grizzled birch
My deadline is like <t:1674388800:R>
Since its a midday sunday deadline every week
I mean tis all up to you Weegy, you are the game mastar
noble rover
Eh, we'll push it till tomorrow then
<@&1055138998475042847> bonemass boss rush will be tomorrow at 7pm EST
static pelican
Good call. Would not have been able to do it
grizzled birch
So that is <t:1674432000:F> which is <t:1674432000:R>? @noble rover
grizzled birch
:3
left frigate
anyone on heim now?
rustic cosmos
Too early for Val
left frigate
its never too early to viking on the weekend
limber surge
I can hop on soon
queen pasture
limber surge
@bleak citrus you might wanna hop on
limber surge
hoppin in vc
steady knoll
i just joined what should i do
steady knoll
how do you kidnap a boar
long oak
…… complicatedly.
prisma oak
solo ran a frost cave and located moder spawn
left frigate
the beacon is becoming a tower of hell
bleak citrus
solo ran a frost cave and located moder spawn
did you mark it?
prisma oak
it auto marks right?
bleak citrus
not for us
also i was meaning did you mark the cave the runestone was in so we can just go in and touch it to see where moder is
also is moder on our mountain?
prisma oak
if you mean wrote to the cartography table, i do whenever i pass by it
bleak citrus
but yeh is the moder spawn on our mountain cause that would be great if its a yes
grizzled birch
but yeh is the moder spawn on our mountain cause that would be great if its a ye...
Technically no
bleak citrus
grizzled birch
But honestly, pretty close ngl
bleak citrus
guess im just going to map out our mountain anyway and hope who knows there might be one on ours
grizzled birch
Just sail from the bonemass to make a thing
left frigate
TOWER OF PAIN
grizzled birch
:3
grizzled birch
<t:1674432000:F> is <t:1674432000:R>
rustic cosmos
4 hours remain
grizzled birch
Still need iron for the mountain base ngl
Dunno what the plans were after I mentioned that yesterday in voice
Were we clearing swamps on that same island still or did we finish those 4
noble rover
<@&1055138998475042847> 20 minutes till boss rush
grizzled birch
<t:1674432000:R>
noble rover
boos time
prisma oak
running back to my death point five times over 25 minutes is exactly why i play minecraft with keep inventory on...
at least valheim has fast travel via portals
but it's still so soul draining
grizzled birch
Yup XD
rustic cosmos
Yeah
prisma oak
wishbone didn't ping a single time on any of the 3 nearest mountains
little obsidian
I found a buried skeleton with a necklace last night but that was it
did anyone hit the crypt on the mountain south of our base yet?
grizzled birch
I think that'd be the crypt that I went with dinga and one other to finish off?
So possibly, Dingas map might not have pushed through for you to copy?
little obsidian
grizzled birch
Oh that location, no no idea; we did the one south of the mountain base, not the main walled base
I think some people claimed to have peeked inside it weeks ago or something, but I don't think it got cleared?
grizzled birch
wishbone didn't ping a single time on any of the 3 nearest mountains
I've found a handful of silver veins about the place; but I didn't realise we have processed all the silver already
Or are you just looking for things and we aren't out of silver yet
little obsidian
I only see 19 silver unless some is hidden in a weird spot
grizzled birch
There was a bunch upstairs in the mountain area for the chest but I guess people processed it then is it?
Ore at least, I had brought back a few stacks of silver
prisma oak
i've seen zero silver at home base
grizzled birch
I don't think anyone has shipped it back to main but the mountain fort did have a chest upstairs next to the smelter I had added a bunch of silver ore to before we got off last night
prisma oak
we need silver for cooking upgrade at home, or tin for a cauldron at mountain base
little obsidian
just got back to the mountain base with some tin
grizzled birch
Best chance is grabbing tin from the swamp tbh than shipping silver back for now; but I'll add it to my list of trip to make this week then
Anything else people want me to ferry? Charon is listening
prisma oak
should've held on to more greydwarf eyes, eyescream is decent food
actually, only stacks to 10 so not that great
limber surge
Best chance is grabbing tin from the swamp tbh than shipping silver back for now...
we got a mountain nextr to us
grizzled birch
we got a mountain nextr to us
How dare you suggest something that doesn't involve me sailing for 30+ minutes
But yeah true
Technically two mountains nearby, so highly likely we'd have silver quite easily
long oak
Best chance is grabbing tin from the swamp tbh than shipping silver back for now...
A few souls.
queen pasture
How dare you suggest something that doesn't involve me sailing for 30+ minutes
The thing that bothered me the most :
Transportation
I get that you want us to explore but given the world size, randomness boss spawners can be at and the fact you cant transport ore or ingots but all the stuff made from it
it just becomes a slog if you literally have to sail an hour doing basically nothing
Its just disrespectful pf the players time
bleak citrus
its why i liked that we happened to have some marked crypts and dark woods to get stuff for our mountain base
didnt need to sail just run grab some stuff and run back
i was hoping that the dragon boss was on the same island too but that was dashed
queen pasture
if it was like a basic portal that consumes 50% of the non allowed material (rounded up) of a stack and some armor dmg
Unlocking higher tier portals with boss materials
bleak citrus
50% damn even that would be extreme
queen pasture
its the bad portal and its only the materials that are normally forbidden
take them with you for speed or take the long way
elder gives a small update and then skeleton king dude
hallow grove
elder gives a small update and then skeleton king dude
Justifying it as the Cold Embrace of (Un)death preserving the items being transported through the portals?
queen pasture
Elder is old and part of the land , the skeleton boss is a magic user
hallow grove
So Elder grounds the items to reality, letting more of them pass through safely, and Skeleton magically preserves them, allowing the rest safe passage, is the justification you're going for?
bleak citrus
even then i wouldnt want to risk any of my metals and just transport it by boat etc
grizzled birch
Unlocking higher tier portals with boss materials
Higher tier portals might work; there are mods for that which seem to do okay.
My main thought however would be different. Since the game has the feature of item stands for you to place things like boss heads on; would it not make sense to almost 'plug in' those heads to the portal as a consumable item; past just the one 'kill a single boss' to allow a few minutes of unrestricted passage for materials up to that bosses rank
While it 'wastes time' it also encourages the type of gameplay loop that they might be wanting with some level of grinding, making the bosses actually valuable past the one thing they do that might let you progress.
As I've said before, literally only the 4th boss matters in terms of game progression, every boss before it could be technically skipped at the cost of wasting a lot of time treasure hunting.
They had to force bosses to drop specific 'keys' to crypts and other things for them to even be considered 'relevant' to gameplay otherwise
Seeing how the devs took the time to give boss heads their own dialogue while on item stands; it would encourage a handful of things
But honestly any method might work depending on the playstyle and gameplay you are aiming for
You could limit worldwide metals through portals per hour, you could make portals have upgrades, tie them to boss trophies.
I'm personally surprised there isn't some silver based portal; considering its relation to magic and considering silver was like the only metal they really cared about for trading and wealth
queen pasture
or to go with your idea is to consume a boss trophy and allow tiers of metal to be moved for a few minutes or even just the next trip.
grizzled birch
Yeah; I just think making it reliable but related to the bosses, with like a timer or something, makes it a more engaging mechanic. Still adds value to exploring and sailing, but doesn't make people rely on either option.
There is a lot of ways to handle it though to make it interesting
If a boss kill got me all materials of that tier and lower for say; an hour that I could transport, then it doesn't become a massive dependence
queen pasture
In my time I have never killed a boss more than once really
grizzled birch
Yeah; which is kind of a shame; unless you are aiming for crypt keys or something weird
queen pasture
The magic enchanting mod I have uses trophies and boss trophies for enchanting
grizzled birch
Could easily have made the bosses more 'valuable' in a sense
queen pasture
Which actually made me fight a herd of Eikthyr
grizzled birch
But yeah; while I see the complaint; I'm unsure if 'free unlimited transport based on tiers' matches some parts of the game.
But I could see if a lot more resources were teleport limited and similar to a workbench, required a trophy nearby or something; which might have a few hours before it 'decays'
Then it could be argued the more valuable 'complex' materials need more boss kills to be able to function
I think the current tiered portals mod had like 3 portals in one of them?
urban olive
Why do the portals need costs at all?
grizzled birch
I might be a bit too attached to the idea of consumable/expiring timers for unlocking the ability but basically half the game, potions, food, crops all have timers; and it would make it at least have some value
urban olive
There’s lots of survival games where the upgrade materials aren’t locked behind silly parameters or cost you anything to move long distances
grizzled birch
Why do the portals need costs at all?
We are talking about teleporting metals and 'non-teleportables'
The concept of unlocking it for lower tier things and discussing potential 'options'
They don't need it, but for this game instead of saying "They should remove it" we are talking about "How the game devs could implement it while keeping the 'spirit' of what they wanted"
urban olive
I honestly think that’s an unneeded grind that many people seem to be obsessed with
I’m aware of what you’re talking about
I don’t think the metals need to be locked as non teleportables
It’s a design decision made in very early access that they should change
It isn’t needed and doesn’t make the game more fun
It actively makes the game less fun
grizzled birch
Similar to how games like factorio should just teleport all the materials about the place instead of using conveyers?
We are just talking about options. We could completely agree it is a bad, limiting mechanic, adding travel time to completely waste the players time. But outright denying something like that isn't how you convince people to change or think of other options. So we are talking of alternate methods; which would be quite valid; like making the boss trophies have more uses than just 'kill one and hook it', into something the gameplay cares about; otherwise you can skip the first boss because trolls, you can skip the third boss because exposed silver veins, and any boss after the 4th, the dragon; doesn't even give you mechanically anything
It also makes for a good fun discussion on game design; because I completely agree, everything being teleported is an option. But it also removes an element of mechanics and game design. the game becomes more a 'place a portal down in a location, surround it with stone and then only build one base'
We wouldn't be incentivised to have our stone keep on a mountain, or building ports or anything
We would have a single base, in the meadows which teleports to a few 'safer' locations adjacent to biomes we care about, and would work from the singular hub. We might as well just be unlocking other realms to teleport to and remove the entire exploration aspect of the game, give the players return stones and treat it like an endless dungeon or something
bleak citrus
or be like my mates last time i played on a server and each build our ours bases like we had a main sorta but then people just started putting bases where ever
thats something that happens when portals are involved
grizzled birch
I do; completely agree, valheim, especially with how their wind system is design; wastes your time
bleak citrus
and then we reach dragon power
im going to be over using that when it becomes ours
grizzled birch
Lol yeah
bleak citrus
im probably going to do a naked run in a large boat maybe have enough materials to make a single portal in case someone wants to join and just map all the outlines islands and then go over the edge
grizzled birch
I do think it might be a difference in our preferred genres though Cobra; I don't mind exploration and discovery. In minecraft I've walked for 25-30 minutes each way in a terrafirmacraft modpack, helping people navigate between an old base at spawn in a winter biome, to one 8000+ blocks south for a warmer climate. So I'm perfectly fine with long trips and all that; where some people might see frustration, I think its just a small puzzle of logistics that can be solved with a few minutes of reading a novel on my second screen and letting the game sail there.
So I might not see an urgency you do in regards to how restricting it might be to have a few key resources, either needing to be more local or transported.
grizzled birch
I have 50+ hours in a game called sailwind; great game imo, but it is literally sailing a ship from one island to another, taking 10+ minutes of realtime sometimes to go from one small island to another, or my like 3-ish hour trip I've sailed
grizzled birch
And I recognise that what equates to a manual 'trading simulator' probably isn't for most people
bleak citrus
to be fair my brother would play
runs off to find cover
pirates of the Caribbean on original Xbox
still have no idea where the hell that disk went
grizzled birch
But yeah; in the case of Valheim, portals existing but being limited; while annoying, doesn't really seem like some extreme measure compared to a lot of design choices I've seen other games make
grizzled birch
Me either; I think sailing is fun lol
Although I do see the point about it 'wasting time'; IF the biomes were extremely seperated
But it really depends on worldgen at times
bleak citrus
portals existing but being limited; while annoying
lies!
grizzled birch
> portals existing but being limited; while annoying
lies!
Its called empathetic language
bleak citrus
also is still find it funny how i did a tree plantation outside the wall and i just look at it and think "yeh im never cutting these down"
bleak citrus
Its called empathetic language
its weird how it still included the Lies part with the quote combined when there ment to be seperate
grizzled birch
Not
really
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grizzled birch
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prisma oak
Technically two mountains nearby, so highly likely we'd have silver quite easily
i already said none of the three nearest mountains have silver, according to the wishbone
bleak citrus
i swear if i go up there one day
grizzled birch
Same
bleak citrus
you know what out off pure random spite im going there next time i come on assuming i remember
grizzled birch
XD
urban olive
I was adding to the conversation by giving my opinion that there doesn’t need to be a restriction or cost. Factorio isn’t a good comparison game, it is entirely different from valheim and has automation to transport things for you, which valheim does not
And yes, as you say, you’re fine with spending a long amount of time doing transport
But many people do not have that kind of time
I don’t want to spend two hours going back and forth in a boat transporting resources that I need to build with
Or make better gear
Especially with how expensive iron gear is to make and upgrade!
It’s part of why I’m not playing much. The early part of valheim is fun, but afterwards the game feels like a slog because of what’s needed to progress
The other part being that y’all spend so much time playing that it doesn’t feel like there’s much for me to do anyways
Y’all have it handled. I’ll join for bosses at this point but beyond that? Eh
grizzled birch
On a similar note then; since its come up in a different conversation before; do you think there would have been some kind of merit; ignoring how the world constantly scales in difficulty as you go through the days, for having two groups working at different paces?
And yeah I definitely agree with you on a lot of it; players generally want their time to feel valuable and utilised and it can be a bit hard when you feel you are playing catch up
bleak citrus
good thing when i play this with my cousin its not going to be a always running server just me booting up the world and then when she leaves i leave turning off the world
grizzled birch
Personally I hate a lot of games that constantly scale some hidden 'world level'
Makes me feel like I'm on some timer I didn't ask for when I prefer to take slower paths to things
bleak citrus
i almost want to say its not really a hidden world level
you know things get worse as you beat each boss
grizzled birch
The random night time enemies have gotten worse with just time
I highly doubt finishing the second boss, had the game devs say "time to spawn 2 brutes and 2 shamans every night along with 1-2 star greydwarves"
The game expects us to have progressed
bleak citrus
i think i was already well ready when they showed up
if you had bronze weapons at least i think that was the required level to deal with them
grizzled birch
Doesn't change the fact its on a timer. I wouldn't like joining a MP game that is this 'long' in even if we had a fresh start
bleak citrus
but i need to remember what i had when facing hordes of grey dwarves etc during the events
grizzled birch
The day timer itself is part of the difficulty scaling, enough to give you a heads up every day change
I'll say it again though, I have like 600+ hours in 7 days to die; and I absolutely hate the game lol
bleak citrus
I do want to say i was wielding level 1 bronze equipment when facing them all
there is also the factor when im in my own world or alone in the server i do sleep to make it daytime
grizzled birch
Wandering log trolls are 'common' in the meadows at this point is the issue
I've seen like 2-3 not tied to the timed raids
bleak citrus
I still wonder if that was the troll that was near by just being lured over by things
there is an actual troll spawn nearby
i dont think anyone ever truly answered my questions other then THERE IS A TROLL OVER HERE
grizzled birch
Lol
bleak citrus
and when i look at the map they look like they were near where it likes to hang
so my information unless I get it confirmed otherwise in my head was they wandered near it and agroed it with out realizing
i could go into the nearby woods and figure out exactly where he is hanging if i remember to do so
grizzled birch
I've been on the wall itself, on the side with the small external house, so the west side and the troll has been there
bleak citrus
assuming i remember
grizzled birch
It didn't directly target me at first, but I in no way was near the biome enough for whatever rendering they use, to give it proper AI
bleak citrus
west seems like a close estimation might of been north west but i honestly wouldnt know his exact location
but i always do know where the troll doing squats is
just sail on by it and he just there doing squats
urban olive
On a similar note then; since its come up in a different conversation before; do...
I think that having the server up for specific times or days of the week would have been better. It avoids the issue of “we’ve been playing for 3 days straight and hit [insert area here] progression cap!” And would also reduce the world scaling difficulty in a significant way
grizzled birch
Interestingly the wiki says nothing about time scaling; which seems a bit weird to me because it feels like that; more testing needed
urban olive
It also lets people who have busier schedules find a specific time and way to play with people without feeling like there’s no point because everyone else is already so far ahead
Like, right now, if I had to choose between grinding for hours to catch up on valheim or playing monster Hunter rise, I’m gonna choose rise every time because at least in rise, I can grind at pace with my friends and not be left behind. Do you get what I’m saying?
static pelican
It is something we considered when setting it up as well. I know whenever Eco comes around there's a high chance it's what we do
grizzled birch
Whenever eco comes around I will constantly complain it came around with this sort of thing lol
royal notch
The thing that bothered me the most :
Transportation
I get that you want us to ...
Alternative Idea that worked for me: put stuff in a separate world, go through portal in main world, and then go back to alt world and grab restricted stuff
queen pasture
that ignores the problem not solve
royal notch
Its a solution that uses no mods or cheats
prisma oak
just two-shot a troll
urban olive
hell yeah dude
limber surge
anyone on?
limber surge
@grizzled birch
rustic cosmos
Jaz is on do not disturb
rustic cosmos
I guess the problem is that not everyone who wants to participate has time on weekdays
While we want to fight the next boss sooner, we can’t
prisma oak
have we even travelled to moder yet for a portal?
last i checked, cartography table didn't show a path there, so either no or someone hasn't been updating it
rustic cosmos
I think Dinga was getting close
grizzled birch
Jaz is on do not disturb
Jaz has never been off dnd tbh
long oak
This is true
grizzled birch
I'm aware, it's up to jaz though
And no its not really my job; I only suggested it based on the things I knew
static pelican
I sometimes forget that Do Not Disturb is a thing. Read as Jaz playing D&D 100% of the time
noble rover
that is also true
bleak citrus
I think Dinga was getting close
i think jaz and someone at least got a boat to the bonemass base for when we eventually go to moder to set things up
grizzled birch
Yeah we did; I planned to do it later this week but I've got irl stuff to do and I woke up today with massive neck pains and headache; delaying basically everything
I'll do it today I guess
Jeez having two heavy games open and 50+ chrome tabs makes it nearly impossible to choose the right gif
grizzled birch
Moder base is set up
- It isn't set up for comfort, it is built for defence due to proximity of the boss which has ranged attacks
- The storage there is primarily for repair materials, don't use it as a storage location
- There are no repair stations for the above reasons, only a workbench L1 and a stonecutter for the constructions/repair
Because I've built it for defence, it is set up with a layered build. A lot; if not most tiles overlap completely with others; it is intended to take a beating; this makes repairs basically impossible without rebuilding it
bleak citrus
Moder base is set up
1. It isn't set up for comfort, it is built for defence due...
the softies will have to deal with the harshness of the mountains!
grizzled birch
Basically
The stone base is entirely set up to withstand being in proxmity to a boss; not for actual comfort; so we shall see how much people suffer
timid pond
grizzled birch
If it actually becomes a problem; they can give offerings of stone to expand the location
rustic cosmos
Thank you Jaz
prisma oak
ya'll not bring any eggs to moder base?
grizzled birch
I think dinga said something about there being some nearby we can grab when we need them
Its quite inefficient to boat over eggs like that tbh; still no idea why people were trying to horde them an entire continent away
I think there was something he said about potentially already having plugged in one or two? Since it shouldn't trigger anything if people don't mess with it?
bleak citrus
there was only 1 egg nest so far on that mountain that i saw
if there are more i would not know
prisma oak
i explored a little and found two
grizzled birch
Well I don't know whats going on in @noble rovers head, but I assume he will say something about <t:1674950400:F> being <t:1674950400:R>
😛
Which should be the 4th boss; which is technically the final 'progression' locked boss AFAIK; the rest don't really have 'locked' mechanics
Ah nah, Yagluth did have some useful things
6th boss which basically had nothing of value
queen pasture
Its why I lost interest super fast again, Valheim may be fun but the development cycle is slow and you hit the end fast
queen pasture
Its fun making the progression but even early on you still feel that it needs to have a lot of work done
grizzled birch
I can't do it today
So <t:1675036800:F> which is <t:1675036800:R>?
noble rover
mayhaps
grizzled birch
Which there is no chance I participate in because I'm super busy this weekend
noble rover
I'll likely be busy all weekend
grizzled birch
My replacement mattress and all that
bleak citrus
now in my insanity
i want the dragon dead twice
so i get a head to mount on my wall
grizzled birch
Dinga if you wanna manage the boss battle I'm pretty sure @noble rover won't mind?
I don't think I'll be there but I've helped prep things for peeps this week
Depends on turnout?
bleak citrus
do i look like i manage things
grizzled birch
With difficulty
bleak citrus
i was the leeroy jenkins last time someone tried to organise things
grizzled birch
😛
bleak citrus
grizzled birch
¯_(ツ)_/¯
little obsidian
Found another egg on the Moder mountain, the other two haven't respawned yet
rustic cosmos
I'm getting on
prisma oak
i think we should have minimum 5 players before running bosses
you know that golem stuck in a pit?
a skeleton archer is pelting it relentlessly
left frigate
that is fine
prisma oak
it has it below half health now
left frigate
also when was a boss ran with less than 5?
prisma oak
on the first time, never?
left frigate
yeah the first time is the only time that matters
afterwards its free reign
also
TURNS OUT THERE IS NECROMANCY MAGIC STAFF WHOOO!
grizzled birch
TURNS OUT THERE IS NECROMANCY MAGIC STAFF WHOOO!
I think this is like the 4th time people have realised blood magic is a thing?
How did things go in the end; didn't get enough players?
little obsidian
yea, not enough players
grizzled birch
I'm busy this weekend, so is Weegy; someone else could run it easily; thats fine, but its best to have a good headcount; which requires more than just saying 'lets do it' but actively hosting and possibly pinging people
Because some of the players only wait for the ping now
If someone truly wishes to host it for tomorrow or something at <t:1675036800:F> then they would do best 3-4 hours notice and checking in on people before it starts <t:1675036800:R>
noble rover
people can also ping the role, just @ villager
left frigate
I think this is like the 4th time people have realised blood magic is a thing?
when I think blood magic I do not think necromancy
grizzled birch
when I think blood magic I do not think necromancy
Technically no one has called it blood magic but people constantly exclaiming "Wow theres a staff to summon skellies' repeatedly
hallow grove
It's only blood magic if it uses blood as fuel.
Otherwise it's just plain old necromancy.
grizzled birch
Most of the magic in the game uses health and eitr so it counts
From the skelly staff to the fireballs and other stuff; require health and eitr
hallow grove
Then they are indeed blood magic, yes.
grizzled birch
It actually amuses me how stupidly costly they actually are tbh
Both blood magic items, the staff of protection and the dead raiser require 40% of your hp; not an actual set value, but percent
And even at max level, ends up at like 26%; not even half cost for max level in the skill
grizzled birch
From the skelly staff to the fireballs and other stuff; require health and eitr
The staff of frost or the staff of fire are technically elemental magics, which just cost eitr; to clarify a bit better
left frigate
frost and skeleton1
bleak citrus
when I think blood magic I do not think necromancy
you are but a novice of the dark arts then
bleak citrus
dnd is but playthings to the ancient ways of blood sacrifices and other nasties
grizzled birch
Considering literally anyone joining a D&D game could pick a necromancer I wouldn't really say it is a specialised field if theres L1 necromancers able to just bring a few skellies around
RAW D&D requires like what, a few days to 'level up'?
So a week studying a necromantic spellbook you can raise the dead
little obsidian
<@&1055138998475042847> Anyone object to fighting the boss at <t:1675036800:f>, <t:1675036800:R>
rustic cosmos
<@&1055138998475042847> less than 30 minutes
rustic cosmos
<@&1055138998475042847> It is time, get on now or forever hold your peace
prisma oak
i love that the root helmet is better than the reticle for aiming
currently at 5 players, so i'd say we're just barely at the minimum to boss
limber surge
@prisma oak wanna hop in vc?
urban olive
Don’t count on me showing up. I’m kinda done with valheim. I’ll be on later to drop my equipment in a public chest
limber surge
that's understandable friend, take care <3
urban olive
Thanks, sorry. It was fun at first but the grind isn’t the right kind of fun for me personally
Hopefully when the game full releases, some of its rough edges will be smoothed out
limber surge
mhm
static pelican
Good job Jaz. Breaking menu text now
grizzled birch
long oak
oh dear
grizzled birch
Just a slight bit of flour
Don't worry, its like 10 flour for 2 bread
Our best bets would be fish wraps and blood pudding if we wanted to get value out of it
Blood pudding gives us a use for blood bags and the hundreds of thistle we have stockpiled after all at half the cost of flour
And fish wraps just need any cooked fish
We have like 120-ish black metal left, nearly 400 linen thread and I've filled a chest with barley flour
The answer to the question about how strong Lox are; is 10 ice arrows
Since I used 30 to kill 3 in the same fight; the ice actually slowed them down enough
bleak citrus
Just a slight bit of flour
how many windmills we got?
grizzled birch
3 set up atm
grizzled birch
Based on their speeds; I'd estimate if we full time barley fielded; we'd need 5-7 to keep up with output
But since I'm doing split fields; its not really an issue
grizzled birch
I figure filling up an entire black metal chest is 'enough' flour for a week; assuming people make fish tacos(wraps) and blood pudding
grizzled birch
i wanna stay with 3
Since you know your limits
I have filled up a wooden chest for stockpiling flax and half of one for barley currently.
I plan to fill at least one regular(10 slot) chest for each one before overflow.
Is one 10 slot chest of linen thread (50 stack) fine to leave?
grizzled birch
500 linen thread in a chest stockpiled; and it takes only 280 to fully upgrade (inc cape) a padded set of gear
Assuming people don't spam upgrades; I assume 500 linen thread is 'enough' for the basics
bleak citrus
padded is probably where i finally go wild and just upgrade the stuff
grizzled birch
I agree; but we don't need that stockpiled in the next 24 hours or so do we?
bleak citrus
im not phased either way at the moment
grizzled birch
im not phased either way at the moment
I dunno what we actually need at this point though tbh
I'm making a massive amount of barley just in case, but beyond just flax farming, I think we've got most things?
bleak citrus
fire juice
is one thing
i think we do have most resources to help us survive the plains
bleak citrus
i would say try quitting the game and then re enter
grizzled birch
i would say try quitting the game and then re enter
Nope, server might just be down or something
I was in the middle of organising stuff lol; I'll check back in an hour
grizzled birch
Still failed; I guess it might have crashed with no auto restart?
noble rover
@toxic pagoda server went down, can you kick it back up?
grizzled birch
Good job Jaz. Breaking menu text now
How about breaking the server also? 😛
static pelican
GG Jaz
grizzled birch
GG No RE
grizzled birch
I broke it so hard the IP changed?
toxic pagoda
Killed the whole server so they needed to migrate everyone. (I don't actually know).
grizzled birch
Oh dang yeah, theres been a slight rollback; at least I don't have to plant the field again, thats some 300-ish crops
NP though, it works
Thank you
static pelican
Server IP: 135.148.150.123:4460
Password: Henchheim55555
static pelican
**Server IP:** 135.148.150.123:4460
**Password:** Henchheim55555
New pin since the IP changed
rustic cosmos
Blerg
limber surge
I cleared a camp nearby
killed a few loxs? loxes? idk
and got off
if anyone needs help with anything, feel free to ping me
bleak citrus
remembers that large group of goblins just charging at the camp before i had even fully built the wall that one time
that Dawn attacked
grizzled birch
killed a few loxs? loxes? idk
Honestly Lox works as a plural form I think on its own
"A Lox from a pack of Lox"
prisma oak
i like how that fish is still just sitting in the hearth
grizzled birch
I repositioned it so it would be fully warm, but yeah; it amused me
Dunno if I moved it to the center before or after the reload though, wasn't on my mind
limber surge
which fish???
little obsidian
limber surge
BAHAHA
rustic cosmos
There was a random fish taking up room in the chests, so I threw it in the fire
grizzled birch
Now it has a friend
Whoever fished the bigger one forgot to add it in, it seems
So I did it for them
long oak
friendship!
grizzled birch
Anyway, a sort of half assed to-do list for someone who cares to
Upgrade the cauldron in the milling area
Fill a chest with Fish taco wraps
Fill a chest with Blood Pudding
(Those two are more efficient for using flour than baking bread)
After that, we need iron in the plains area so people can upgrade their gear a bit later on, including blackmetal tools.
I don't believe theres many other tasks anyway
Mostly because the 'menu' for people at this point should be something like:
Fish Wraps
Blood Pudding
Lox Pie
For a total of
75+70+25 = 170 HP
24+23+75 = 122 STAM
Serpent stew would be too difficult to supply en masse and bread uses over twice the amount of flour, for lesser effects
Bread is 23/70
Blood Pudding is 25/75
grizzled birch
Go right ahead; doesn't affect any of the resources for the current tier meals
I just didn't want people to spam bread when it makes multiple better meals that we have surplus of materials for
Just because I can farm barley, doesn't mean I'm going to do it infinitely
bleak citrus
its the whole reason i regularly cook the deer meat
cause no one else bulk cooks it so i can have more deer food
grizzled birch
As long as you don't mind the whole thing about it being half as effective do whatever tbh
bleak citrus
bold of you to assume i always care about maximum potential
also blood pudding going to go fast cause no one goes to hunt leeches
grizzled birch
bold of you to assume i always care about maximum potential
Unfortunately for you I didn't assume anything; I don't fight losing battles
bleak citrus
its why i eat sausages there much easier to gather cause i can see draugrs from all over
grizzled birch
After your last joke about not being optimal I approach that topic with you in apathy
bleak citrus
also deer i can just run into the wilds to gather enough for myself at least boar of course is annoyingly harder to gather and I can gather berries better now cause i marked the larger clusters just need carrots for the stew so honestly
so basically my food stuff is the easier to gather materials
you have to put alot more effort in just to get the 3 foods you mentioned
grizzled birch
And I have no issue with it because people really should be using lower tier stuff unless they are doing proper things
The three I mentioned is me trying to say don't waste flour that much
Its an easy out but it could also completely hamstring making proper food for later
bleak citrus
i remember when you said we should be on serpant stew and i was "dont you dare touch that serpent meat we dont have much"
grizzled birch
We both know someone could randomly decide to walk by, convert it all into bread because 'its the easy mass button press'
bleak citrus
i dont want to see flour wasted until i start see a good sized crop always at the farm
we havent grown it out that much yet?
grizzled birch
I have a chest and a half of barley and flax stored up at this point, hence the full blackmetal chest of flour
I just don't plan on farming to upkeep multiple people 24/7
Realistically you are completely correct; people should really be using lower grade meals. Top tier ones are for dungeons or current area long exploration
I tend to use higher versions of stamina meals because farming takes a stupid amount of stamina
bleak citrus
you have just revealed a new mighty chest option i did not realize i had access to
upgrades personal chest again
grizzled birch
Theres numerous blackmetal chests around the plains area already
grizzled birch
But yeah, if someone was able to fill a chest with the 'menu' I mentioned; it would help for proper explorations, especially of dungeons and for later.
As an 'active menu' though you'd be right
Our best choices for an easy day to day menu is
Eyescream 21/65
Wolf Skewer 65/21
Onion Soup 20/60
Turnip Stew 18/55
Muckshake 16/50
Arguably Lox pie which is flour, cloudberry and lox meat could be a possible meal also
Onion Soup is stupidly easy to make at 3 onions, everyone should be using it to a degree with how many onions we got up to
bleak citrus
you forgot
grizzled birch
While I agree sausages might fit in the list, thistles can technically go towards higher level meals
bleak citrus
the eyescream
bleak citrus
good replacement for my muckshake collectiton
if i ever get around to it that is
but then again im not bothered by gather berries from my marked areas
so muckshakes i will probably stay with
grizzled birch
Either way, I recommend the current meal list if you had to pick one, would be the first three; Eyescream, Wolf skewers and Onion Soup for a total of 106/146
They are easy to get at this point I'd say but work since they are basically mountain-tier meals
Muckshake technically fell off in the swamp but it works as a filler for something else
We need to mass murder hares, and we need to spam collect thistles; people agreed for me to plan some somewhere for the group but I wasn't told where, so bonemass might end up as a thistle farm
limber surge
Anyway, a sort of half assed to-do list for someone who cares to
Upgrade the ca...
I'll try and help with iron
grizzled birch
Irons basically just the main requirement for the armour people are gonna want; seeing how the mistlands is a pretty new place to many, I'm sure some of the boss-rushers might want to join in is all
So either we haul thread through the portal, or get iron over there
little obsidian
little obsidian
It has everything we have access to, the spice rack is just hidden behind one of the supports
grizzled birch
can I harvest the barley and make more flour?
How much more do we even need?
The blackmetal chest should be more than enough as long as it goes towards proper meals
limber surge
alright
grizzled birch
Its worth like 12 stacks of most non-bread food items
Bread ends up at 6.4 stacks because its a 20 stack and not a 10 stack
Make some lox pies maybe once the cloudberries grow
grizzled birch
can I harvest the barley and make more flour?
If you do need more flour though sure, but I left some extra processing when I left, you can throw in another load of barley if you really need it since that'd even it out
prisma oak
i like the balance of wolf jerky, and wish there was lox and hare jerky
limber surge
@bleak citrus vc?
little obsidian
Are we fighting Yagluth this weekend?
I set up a mini base near the altar, portal is in the plains base
rustic cosmos
Hopefully we will
rustic cosmos
Is there anything left that needs doing?
rustic cosmos
I ... don’t know how to get those
bleak citrus
you assault goblin camps
rustic cosmos
I see
grizzled birch
Sometimes you find totems in random stone ruins near the plains as well IIRC but they are basically items on a kind of pedestal
bleak citrus
there always where goblins cluster
whether its there forts or the villages
they will burn
rustic cosmos
<@&1055138998475042847> are we fighting the next boss today or tomorrow?
grizzled birch
Jaz is busy unless incentivised heavily
little obsidian
I'm good with either day
bleak citrus
i will say when we kill the boss i definitely want all the resource from him cause im just going to make as many of the wisp things as i can all at the base
just have a whole field of the things for shits and giggles
little obsidian
one more totem and we will have enough for 2 kills
bleak citrus
that honestly depends on how much we spawn from killing it the first time
static pelican
We usually are
rustic cosmos
I thought I had put in the new IP wrong but it was just my internet
grizzled birch
@noble rover <t:1675641600:F> is <t:1675641600:R>
You visiting for it or are others running it
grizzled birch
Then, we burn the world down in the name of odin
noble rover
What after that ?
Excellent question, TBD
noble rover
yes
and feedback
in the end, despite me being unable to participate much(sorry, life gets in the way)
it was fairly successful
The prelim updates for community village round 2 are
-Multiple Villages this time around, 2-3? some way to have a split between players that can only play at certain times, more inclusive for playstyles
-Custom map. either custommade or premade rather then randomly generated. feel like that would be more fun
-Events! kinda like ARMA in the sense of a Zeus+the players having to figure out what to do there
-More advertising! potentially getting wander to ping everyone? we had a good turn out of about 8 people each event/peak hours(often)
grizzled birch
First point yes; we need some type of split; but not in the sense of two independent groups; but using it as a justification for extra tasks; a week per boss could end up even worse for other games if translated across. A group who is on more often could be in charge of updating defences and other things for the people who can only show up now and again which prevents a situation like what we ended up with in Valheim, between the workshop and the hall I built; we didn't really build any structures besides forward bases, so a calmer village with individual housing and all that would be good as a longer term building project.
Second point; can be very hard to manage, usually a custom map of sorts does best when the admins know what it features, how it works and has some kind of guidance. Not all games offer it, but in the ones that do they tend to have a purpose. In the case of valheim, having some sort of pre-mapping from the admins side to find a few larger biomes of each type and noting their general location could cut down on frustration in games where travel wastes your time; but otherwise a premade or custom map adds a lot of backend work for setup and depending on the game, can have a chance of breaking and needing fixing.
Events; can't just be forced onto a game as much as I like the concept of more RP focused and independent growth focus; it can go really badly if not controlled well and managed properly.
little obsidian
So are we fighting the boss at the normal time today?
rustic cosmos
I hope so
grizzled birch
<t:1675641600:F> is <t:1675641600:R>
I think I should be around for this one
prisma oak
so jaz's first point could be simplified as a "civilian/blitz group" and a "fortifying/endurance group"
grizzled birch
To a degree yeah; the group aiming to do things more frequently could even be given quotas or something depending on the game to keep it interesting or some disadvantage is put on them for a few days
Like building a statue or building of something specific, or just gathering a set amount of resources, or in games that track it specific kill counts of something
grizzled birch
<t:1675641600:F> is <t:1675641600:R>
Who wants to call people?
Probably need to remind people with like 20-30 minutes left
I'm like; actually falling asleep rn lol
rustic cosmos
<@&1055138998475042847> 50 minutes until we fight the boss
bleak citrus
i realized did we make any anti fire?
little obsidian
I did
little obsidian
2 stacks in the yagluth base, another few in the main base
tight verge
Btw, what game have you been playing? I know I certainly have been tagged with the Villager role, despite not being able to play (i am fine with the tags, but I don't know any of what's going on)
onyx grove
Valheim
(I decided to play it through myself after not knowing anything that was going on in the server)
prisma oak
7 minutes to, and it's only me drako and newt so far...
grizzled birch
I'm around, tabbed out and not yet logged on