#Community Village Game

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bleak citrus
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there is nice clearing direct south of the forward base

left frigate
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I want that Valheim building class some time, I wanna make something like the greater hall

bleak citrus
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you probably would need to fortify it cause there would be a black forest next to it

grizzled birch
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That and I'm intentionally building viking style buildings, the 'greater' hall as someone called it was taken from some viking buildings with a double layered roof, once I can angle it at 45 degrees I'll probably put a chimney on it too

grizzled birch
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Basically a shore fortress used by vikings

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Mostly for raiding

left frigate
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still want the class, sue me for being curious on architecture

grizzled birch
bleak citrus
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crypts

hallow grove
grizzled birch
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Cade did it, blame Cade I'm not egotistical
I only thought 'superior hall' in my head, other people named it the 'greater hall'

left frigate
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speaking of the halls, what are we gonna do with the old hall

grizzled birch
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I mean when we start expanding what we are doing, it easily works for more storage of processed goods and all that

left frigate
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aye storage

grizzled birch
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Its close enough to the original warehouse to be an overflow and expansion

royal notch
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I seem to be called "somebody" a lot
havent been here long enough to be quickly remembered

grizzled birch
noble rover
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Everybody's a somebody

left frigate
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gonna hop on heim

hallow grove
grizzled birch
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Its the reason I call Syrup 'Ty'

noble rover
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And don't worry, cade

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I was called Luigi for like 2 years by these guys

grizzled birch
hallow grove
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(Wa-)Luigiboard.

noble rover
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Be glad it's somebody, not this or uwuifed

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Or susan

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Or grump

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Those last three are my fault

grizzled birch
left frigate
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if we beat the elder we can do iron

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otherwise we got zero

grizzled birch
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I'm unlikely to involve myself in boss fights, ignoring my RSI and issues, I don't like combat in the game much, it isn't that compelling

grizzled birch
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I have no doubt people are gonna steamroll the elder, its like the 4th boss and later where I think it might take more than one attempt

royal notch
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I wonder if we can organize a boss rush

grizzled birch
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When we are closer to the end maybe

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Some might have fun trying that once or twice

royal notch
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like portals to instantly summon the next boss as soon as the first one dies

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and a chest at each for the summoning stuff

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also is anybody feeding steve?

grizzled birch
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Did anyone capture the two that escaped after all?

royal notch
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?

noble rover
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There will be the next boss Saturday or Sunday

grizzled birch
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Mentioned before

prisma oak
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i especially have trouble attaching names to faces

grizzled birch
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I mean plus since I know welsh calling you 'Ty' means I'm calling you 'house' which amuses me

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Pronounced more of a 'tea' but spelled Ty

bleak citrus
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next saturday!?

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rushes to find crypts

grizzled birch
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If I wanted to be literal Ty Sup would be closest to 'soup house'

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But there isn't really a translation for sup, so its either that or a poorly spelled syrup 'surop'

prisma oak
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i've more so enjoyed responding to people shortening thank you with "that's what they call me"

grizzled birch
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Your new nickname shall be Mercy then?

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If we wanted to do something in french

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Soup House Mercy

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XD

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I've been awake for maybe 18 hours

prisma oak
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the original came from my cousin helping me set up my first email when i was a kid

grizzled birch
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Be happy I can't start a soup vs syrup debate on if syrup is a soup or anything since they are by definition too different

prisma oak
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since i'm so indecisive, he asked "two favorite letters, favorite word, and favorite number"

prisma oak
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so initially when i decided it use it as my global username, i'd correct people saying it's pronounced "tee-why-sup-three" which was kinda silly

grizzled birch
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Hmm

XK, Invidia, 56

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I know I like the letter X unsure why K was the second choice, and then invidia, latin for envy and 56 has its own reason only some who know me know

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I've had many people complain at my interchanging some S and Z and X letters due to the pronunciation sometimes sounding similar

left frigate
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gib roc

grizzled birch
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Sew vs Zoo
Xylophone
Silo

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I've annoyed many people. I'm surprised no one commented on my minecraft username being Zhadowztriker before tbh

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Back when we did the minion MC

bleak citrus
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i feel like as a crazy project i should just go HEY JAZ GET IN MY WORLD AND HELP WITH MY FJORD BRIDGE

grizzled birch
bleak citrus
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i was more hoping to do this after the current valheim adventure in this server

grizzled birch
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Then I'm using all my old resources from the worlds i've been one of the final people on in the past on your bridge

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You probably lack iron or something somewhere 😛

bleak citrus
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honestly unlike this server you can bring stuff in just make sure to take excess all back when you have finished the bridge

grizzled birch
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So don't use it in the construction for supports?

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Excess ok

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Sure

bleak citrus
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no more use it for whatever on the bridge just make sure to take any excess resources back

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you know like say if you had finished the bridge and there was a little iron left you can just take that back to your world

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ive only killed the deer in that world

grizzled birch
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You can pay me in, something. Dunno what I care of value tbh

bleak citrus
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if you had bronze i would make one fermenter and make you 10 booze

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and the contruction is a doozy cause its a massive Fjord

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but this is probably after this server is done, i would just boot up my world sit on the roof of the hut next to bridge and then say go wild with bridge making

grizzled birch
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I shall exploit the physics and somehow make a truss bridge

bleak citrus
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its quite the distance

grizzled birch
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We lack I beams

prisma oak
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started a road to where i think the south port is gonna be

bleak citrus
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time to explore that random swamp i found

bleak citrus
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well i found 3 crypts so far

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but one of them has a big tree monster next to it

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but that ones the coastal crypt so we can just shoot arrows at it from the boat

prisma oak
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road is done until the south port is built

limber surge
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I'll hop on in abit

prisma oak
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...i may have commandeered a few pines and built a sketchy treehouse

limber surge
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oo?

prisma oak
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just looked up where mistlands generate, and it seems we've just barely stayed under the minimum distance from spawn where they are found

limber surge
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very far, yeah?

limber surge
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who has the fishing rod?

bleak citrus
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i have no idea

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i had to go make my own cultivator cause i had no idea who had it or where it was

limber surge
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hm

bleak citrus
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if anything my answer from my last memory of that fishing rod would of been "dawn probably has it"

limber surge
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I put it in a chest

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like two days ago

grizzled birch
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I suppose this means I really have to survey early so I can make sure things are fine

bleak citrus
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just know when you go down that path and finally make it to the sure there is a black forest to your left

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and who knows after i explore these 2 swamps i found we might have even more reason to have a port there i already found 3 crypts down here

grizzled birch
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If its the path stopping on the downhill slope, I could probably put something there but it'd take a handful of terraforming for what I had in mind, but it should be fine

bleak citrus
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oh were putting the port at the shore line i dont know why it just stops there

grizzled birch
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Oh no thats fine, it helps to stop when they don't know where I think I can build

limber surge
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@bleak citrus I may or may not have found a mistland

bleak citrus
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is waiting to hear dawn die horribly

limber surge
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Oh I already did! :D

bleak citrus
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cant believe you landed there

limber surge
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It was a mosquito lol

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Oh so basically

bleak citrus
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i dont even land on plains

limber surge
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There's a part of it that's not in the fog

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Which is odd

bleak citrus
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i dont even go near plains you seen my driving when the wind takes me there

limber surge
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Also nah, Dark forest, mistland and plains

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I ventured abit in the plains

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To see how big the mist is

bleak citrus
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its also high

limber surge
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Yeah

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Very high

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Massive fog area

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I disconnected the portal though

bleak citrus
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mountains is just a huge bulking thing where mistlands is tall thin spear upwards

limber surge
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So once we are ready, I'll reconnect it

bleak citrus
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thats what i do when ive set up a little area before i go into swamps

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i just delete the portal so others dont go in and leaving conflicting markers

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its just going to be small dots pointing where crypts are

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also funny how it keeps giving me those deep holes with the stairs but we will never be able to get in cause the water level blocks us

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seriously who thought that was a good idea in there game design meetings at valheim company

limber surge
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YEP LOL

bleak citrus
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there was even a greater draugr at one of them pointlessly guarding one

grizzled birch
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Ya know; I had completely forgotten about my default equipment set before I searched around my old collection base

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Why don't we have more people with atgiers, pole arms

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Imo one of the better weapons, default is a long reach stab and the special is a 360 spin attack

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Stab: 3.2 range, 20 angle, 1.0 height, 0.3 ray
Swing: 3.0 range, 360 angle, 1.0 height, 0.3 ray, no multitarget penalty

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If people are struggling to survive, it should be the best weapon to keep distance and to defend against getting mobbed

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Swords primary is 2.4 range, 90 angle, 1.0 height, 0.5 ray, no multitarget penalty

limber surge
grizzled birch
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I mean I've not exactly seen everyones primary weapons and all that, I just found it amusing swords became the answer to I think SusanCobras question on enemies, wouldn't the 3.2 range instead of an axe at 2.2 or a sword at 2.4 be better?

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Because I'm assuming people are getting hit because they misjudge the sword swing and the enemy ends up close enough to attack

limber surge
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might be the case

bleak citrus
limber surge
bleak citrus
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i remember when you last mentioned it and i was "there is a iron pole arm you know!"

limber surge
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I upgraded it before you told me kekw

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I think by a day or two

grizzled birch
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Theres also blackiron ones, and magical ones

limber surge
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I'm aware

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I'll max level em all

bleak citrus
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magical is probably when i will finally make a spear

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like how i have magical hammer etc in my world

grizzled birch
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Eh, comparing the stats I dunno

limber surge
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bonemass on Saturday, yeah?

bleak citrus
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bold of you to assume i cared about states

grizzled birch
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The main damage of blackmetal is about equal-ish to the magical ones damages added up

bleak citrus
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we havent even done elder yet dawn!

limber surge
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I MEANT

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ELDER

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LMAO

bleak citrus
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at least by then i should of found more crypts hopefully south of us close enough to our south docks

grizzled birch
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Have fun punching the elder to death

bleak citrus
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im hoping there is more in that larger swamp i found

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this is the time im pulling out my axe to take his knee caps

limber surge
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shank em with spear

grizzled birch
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Just remember multiple fire damage sources don't stack

bleak citrus
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doesnt axe and fire do the best cause of tree felling and well fire burns trees

limber surge
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it big plant

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plant no like stab and fire

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therefore plant die

grizzled birch
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There is no mechanical benefit to using a bronze axe against the elder due to the fact most weapons use basic damage types

limber surge
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also there's magic?????? cool!

grizzled birch
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Chop damage is considered a neutral damage type Players and all creatures are Immune to this damage type.
As for slash, thats the exact same as swords, knives etc

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Similarly to how the pickaxe has a 'pickaxe' damage type, which doesn't stack or affect any creatures

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Which is why the trolls melee attack acts like an iron pickaxe

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The only actual creature to be affected by a damage type like pickaxe, is the ||stone golem||

grizzled birch
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So if you are curious just look up damage types there

bleak citrus
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nah im just going to assume axe works best against giant tree man and run at him with one when the day comes

grizzled birch
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Mechanically it does nothing, use the weapon you have best weapon skill with
Its only damage multiplier higher than 1, is fire at x2

bleak citrus
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still going to run at him with an axe

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i aint making a bow till later on in the run

limber surge
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Dinga

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Can't wait for him to 3 tap you

bleak citrus
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the power of parry will say me

grizzled birch
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Eh they are all still easy bosses

bleak citrus
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well that or dodging will save me

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i have been dodging troll slams very well

grizzled birch
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What was it, a bronze shield and like what L18 block you could solo it without being staggered?
Boss damage increases by like 4% per nearby player though so a big group you'd want it to be higher than L18 to be able to be stagger-proof

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Bronze buckler

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Anyway my mouse finally ran out of battery a minute ago, gimmi a mo

prisma oak
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i've been mostly bow, using my axe for melee

bleak citrus
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i had sword for enemies and club for skeletons and slimes

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sword had been VERY hand for almost everything so far

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that and i have my spear for trolls

grizzled birch
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Lol actually

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The atgiers (not spears) could stun lock the boss?

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Since the secondary attack, the spinny attack, deals 6x stagger

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Stagger:
6x: Atgeir secondary attack.
6x: Fists secondary attack.

bleak citrus
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and I will still never use it

grizzled birch
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Lets you deal double damage

limber surge
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Jaz

grizzled birch
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Ah yes, bosses seem to be immune to stagger; they know the power of stagger

limber surge
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You have one yeah?

bleak citrus
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dont matter to me I like using sword or axe and club

grizzled birch
limber surge
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Understandable

bleak citrus
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i might get one when i have access to the lightning version but i dont intend to get one anytime soon

grizzled birch
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Who knew fish couldn't be staggered XD

bleak citrus
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but they can fly

limber surge
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They're immune to damage

grizzled birch
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Deer are immune to stagger? For some reason?

bleak citrus
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i just out run them and kill them

limber surge
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Oh yeah dinga

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I did infact get some mistland items

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But

grizzled birch
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Lol

limber surge
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Left them back in a chest near the deactivated portal

limber surge
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NOTHING WE CAN SPEEDRUN WITH

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PINKY PROMISE

bleak citrus
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i was looking for a pulling out sword gif but this was too good

limber surge
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Everything is left on that island

grizzled birch
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I wonder if anyone is gonna decide to use the twin blades when we get around to black metal

limber surge
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I might

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I mean

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I have 4 weapons on me

bleak citrus
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that i did see but i dont think ill get those

limber surge
urban olive
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I just use axe cause carry weight and convenience

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I also wear troll armor cause it has the same protection values as bronze for the early levels

grizzled birch
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Wearing troll leather is like wearing bronze negative 1 quality, it is always a step behind
6 vs 8, 8 vs 10, 10 vs 12, 12 vs 14 totalling Troll set at 36 vs bronze at 42

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Troll leather is better for movespeed and sneaky beaky, but it is technically a step behind since it is the light armour path

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How british can I sound by saying 'sneaky beaky'

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It does amuse me though how the troll hide cape is literally the same as deer hide cape; besides the set bonus

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Deer hide being the level below

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Once we get root and iron gear the gap will be significant though, so thats where we basically end up keeping an eye out

urban olive
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Yeah I just meant that before you upgrade bronze armor, it’s better to wear troll

grizzled birch
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I mean yeah considering things like copper are limited resources, upgrading bronze so much like people have been for some things is a bit wasteful
Either that or valheim needs better material generation loops

urban olive
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They could make things cost less to make but require resources to repair

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Make it worthwhile to upgrade things for the durability increases

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I’ll admit to a couple useless upgrades, if only because I wanted to see what exactly upgraded (hint: it was just durability)

grizzled birch
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Damage and armour values do go up when upgraded

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But its usually by at most 2-5 points

urban olive
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When we get stone, I’m making a cool forge area

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Are we doing elder this weekend?

grizzled birch
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More than likely

urban olive
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Also, do you play grounded, jaz?

grizzled birch
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To skip a long list of reasons, details and motivations; no

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But it isn't a case of that I couldn't buy it, I just had more than enough reasons not to

urban olive
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Oh, that sucks to hear. Sorry that it's not your cup of tea

grizzled birch
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Eh its not that

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Its just a long list of things that would basically flood this chat

left frigate
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Whoever built their base in the tree farm, you are taking risks!

long oak
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Extreme risks

left frigate
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before we possibly fight the boss on saturday, mosh pit in the arena? chaos

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I PLANTED ALL THE CARROTS

bleak citrus
left frigate
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I just planted 200 carrot seeds in the fields, if I get three per seed its gonna be needing a chest soon

bleak citrus
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do you get any seeds at all when you pull them out

left frigate
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no

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cult

noble rover
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first violating the geneva convention

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now creating a cult

hallow grove
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It's only a cult while brand new. Once it exists for at least 100 years with no sign of slowing down, it becomes a religion. :P

noble rover
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this is on me, i should have seen this outcome

left frigate
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wanna guess what the cult is?

noble rover
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Something to do with fightclub

left frigate
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nope

noble rover
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and carrots

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hopefully not insertion

left frigate
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not a single bit of fightclub has happened

noble rover
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geniunely shocking

left frigate
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need to arrange a fight

noble rover
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Dinga's always willing

bleak citrus
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not really im willing to explore horrors of the swamp

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Dawn and dren were fighting at one point while i was leveling my swim at the docks at one point

noble rover
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you're willing to fight and die by the emperor

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ME

bleak citrus
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nah im joining the dark gods

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IM JOINING THE CTAN

left frigate
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we got staglord

long oak
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Is it a cult of punching bosses?

left frigate
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nope

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also

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573 carrots enough?

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this is 5th time I broke my cultivator today

little obsidian
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Found a 2* boar, is it worth trying to get it back to the main island?

bleak citrus
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its never enough i make deer stew and meat sauce with carrots

left frigate
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THEN PLANT MOAR

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or we need a second carrot field

bleak citrus
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nah just do with how i handle honey i just grab them all out of the boxes and immediately use them at needed

bleak citrus
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good news i found a bonemass boss runestone

bleak citrus
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turns out that spot i thought was a really big swamp turned out to be 2 seperate swamps and only one side had a single crypt

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now i go bugger it all and just go check out the bonemass swamp and hope there is more crypts there too

bleak citrus
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so

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should we talk about the tamed wolf i just found in the first hall we built?

rustic cosmos
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No, is puppy

urban olive
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What does it take to tame a wolf?

bleak citrus
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lots of meat

urban olive
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Oh, well, we definitely had that

bleak citrus
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not really last time i saw a large amount of boar meat was me turning it all into sausages

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also randomly once you have done the south port @grizzled birch the next building project would probably be building a tree house near the Bonemass spot I found once a get a portal over there

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at most i would probably build a basic one to just put the portal in but after that just come over and fix it up at whenever you want

prisma oak
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i tamed it, it only took 4 neck tails and two in-game days

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chose neck tails specifically because they don't have many uses, and we can always get more pretty consistently

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living so close to mountains, i'm surprised i was the first to tame a wolf

bleak citrus
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making anti poison potions

bleak citrus
limber surge
rustic cosmos
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I didn’t mention it at the time, but when you died Dinga, I ended up kiting the abomination, 2 draugr, and 2 blobs

limber surge
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LMAO

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Abomination do be fun

bleak citrus
limber surge
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Nooo :)

rustic cosmos
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Luckily I had the foresight to grab poison resist mead so I didn’t have to worry about Shaman while mining copper

bleak citrus
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well i got the first piece of iron im presuming from one of the slimes i was killing

limber surge
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Oh yeah

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They have a chance to drop it

bleak citrus
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a very very rare chance

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considering ive been in the swamps more then anyone else and only now have i finally got on scrap randomly

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at least ive found one random crypt near the Bonemass spot

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i havent properly explored that whole swamp just yet i was busy building a basic tree house for a portal

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my plan is when i eventually get one more iron piece either by chance or because i went in the tomb there ill put a fire up there on a stone block

limber surge
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@bleak citrus it's the blobbers

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Red guys

bleak citrus
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still faced many of them

limber surge
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@noble rover apology for ping, I assume today/tomorrow (saturday) will be boss day?

grizzled birch
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Weegy can't come to the boss right now, please leave the skulls of your enemies after the tone

noble rover
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Tomorrow yeah

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Sunday at the latest

left frigate
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Should I grab a spear before we boss?

grizzled birch
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Spears are weaker Atgiers
Up to you, its better range than a sword or anything if you plan to be in melee; On the bright side spears still let you use a shield

grizzled birch
left frigate
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I meant an atgier

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I plan to mostly be bow lad

limber surge
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@prisma oak ya wolf was hungry, got it to hunt a few necks, now it's near one of the gates on the inside

prisma oak
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looking it up, tamed animals don't actually starve to death?

limber surge
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they do

prisma oak
urban olive
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What time tomorrow are we bossing? I have a psychiatry appointment that I have to make but I do wanna boss with the homies

limber surge
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same

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I might have to go outside to get a haircut

noble rover
limber surge
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3 am for me? sure

bleak citrus
noble rover
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The difference is youve admitted to not having a sleep schedule jaz

bleak citrus
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but i am technically ok with my basic tree house i built there

grizzled birch
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How dare you, I sleep whenever possible

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Which is, sporadic and for at most 3 hours at a time

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@noble rover you try sleeping on a bed with the springs actively poking out of it, tearing through the material

noble rover
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Youch

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Okay

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Get a new bed

grizzled birch
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Yeah, that takes a month to get here

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Still waiting, 31st is the date

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If I wasn't concerned about getting stabbed I'd grab a photo of some of the springs

rustic cosmos
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7pm tomorrow?

bleak citrus
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knowing me ill just show up when i show up

grizzled birch
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Time to do weegys job

The time for the boss tomorrow is <t:1673740800:F> which is <t:1673740800:R>

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Yes @noble rover?

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Unix to the rescue

noble rover
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Yupyup

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That is correct

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Thank you jaz

grizzled birch
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I won't even be there; the first two bosses are just boring to me

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So I'm skipping them so others can have fun

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I've done them a handful of times across other games and even solo; I'll join in the ones after though

bleak citrus
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you know the bonemass boss is just going to be us beating a giant blob with maces right?

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i wonder how much anti poison production will jump once everyone starts to go into the swamp

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i was the one mostly using them before

grizzled birch
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Considering I've seen people spam spawn the elder as a joke in solo to kill them, it doesn't interest me

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5 elders at one is possible there

bleak citrus
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im probably going to be the weird moment of im still using my bronze mace at that point too cause im going to be more selective with what tools i make with materials

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you mean like lets game it out

grizzled birch
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Yup

bleak citrus
grizzled birch
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But it is a common tactic overall

bleak citrus
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i really wish i went game it out style of tree house at the bonemass base now

grizzled birch
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Lol

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No I'm not building that for you

bleak citrus
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i already built a basic one there anyway

grizzled birch
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Me doing building projects is for as long as it stays interesting to do so, because I will spend hours on the project without breaks

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This water channel port is interesting enough to me, so I'll be trying it

bleak citrus
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me knowing any projects in the swamps will probably going to be me standing next to you with a sword and shield

grizzled birch
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I still petition stamina drinks. I'll need them for building; especially in more dangerous areas

bleak citrus
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at best for the moment a slight port with raised ground walls might need to be built in the swamp with 3 crypts in it

grizzled birch
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Get me some really good ones I can burn through

bleak citrus
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if you promise to also build a port in the swamp with 3 crypts in it ill spam make staminia

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also of course it would be high quality stamina potions

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why would i ever make minor ones of my own accord

grizzled birch
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Its more I don't plan to do any form of construction in actively dangerous areas, building work and terraforming keeps me at low stamina, so I'd need it to survive even in self defence

bleak citrus
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probably today with the potion making when i come in too until they boss thing happens ill be off to looking

grizzled birch
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But with them I don't mind as much even if I was alone

bleak citrus
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i did say i would probably be standing over you with a sword and shield

grizzled birch
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Still requires dodging projectiles

bleak citrus
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nah not really i see the draugrs long before they get near us

grizzled birch
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Dies to leeches

bleak citrus
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thats not as easy to happen as you thing

grizzled birch
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😛

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I can crash task manager, I can do anything

bleak citrus
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ive barely been bitten and even then i usually have anti poison

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but yeh i just need a port in a the swamp that has the most crypts in it to allow easier transport of iron to a large boat

grizzled birch
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Group project; canal to the crypts

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:3

limber surge
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@bleak citrus

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you built the house

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next to a funny walking tree

bleak citrus
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it respawns!?

limber surge
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YEP

bleak citrus
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me and newt killed it!

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what is this shit!?

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let it stay dead!

bleak citrus
limber surge
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it wanted us all dead

bleak citrus
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the second you came through the portal?

limber surge
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nope

bleak citrus
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then everything is fine

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for now

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but that is bull crap knowing they just respawn

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one of the crypts in the largest cluster has a tree bugger next to it

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so I guess that just means that will be the first crypt we delve over there just grabbing all the iron as quickly as possible

timid pond
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build like a torch where it spawns, certain player structures have a I think 20m no spawn radius around them

urban olive
grizzled birch
bleak citrus
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i dont even remember if there was time last time other then "alright were doing it this day" then enough people gathered and we did it

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then i leeroyed it and activated the boss when it was obvious we were set and ready

left frigate
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FIGHT PIT CLUBS

bleak citrus
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i saw that thing when i was running around

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i didnt even see it cause in order to see it i would have to run towards the first great hall

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which i only did cause i was cooking all the deer meat

bleak citrus
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of course you all vanish when i finally get back

bleak citrus
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also @grizzled birch i filled up fermenters with medium stamina

bleak citrus
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me both times the forest decided it wanted to move

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also the person who put there house on the outside of the fence your house is at the most risk during these attacks they always attack the fence where your home is

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also @limber surge i think all the pigs have died of starvation

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and just in case for after elder is killed i made more poison resistance

bleak citrus
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i hate that i found a crypt so close to home but one of them has one of those unbreakable fallen over trees blocking the gateway

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the other one is fine but also there are 3 tree monsters in that swamp

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ok 3 times ive defended the village from forest is moving attacks

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welp guys the swamp just the next island over has way too many crypts and there is even a flame geyser for surtling cores to farm

prisma oak
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so what you're saying is, we'll have plenty to do after tomorrow

bleak citrus
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when you update your maps the island just east of our island the largest swamp there all the dots that have no letters under them are all crypts

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also i have 2 iron smelted to so when i build a treehouse base there i can build a stone thing to put the fireplace on up there

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was very lucky 2 of the oozes I faced gave me iron

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now i stop cause I was at the end of my mental fortitude out at sea for so long and exploring swamps

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i had to completely map that last large swamp with all the crypts before i got out of there

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also no tree monsters unlike the smaller swamp to on the south point of that island where there are way too many down there and the only dangers in the good swamp is maybe a wraith randomly spawning and a bunch of spawners in there

urban olive
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I haven't played very much so I'm still on troll armor

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do we have enough bronze for decently leveled bronze armor?

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It's okay if not, I can't imagine the second boss is gonna be that dangerous

noble rover
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you guys literally punched the last boss to death

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i don't think armor is much of a concern to much

urban olive
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Now the question is... can we punch the rest to death?

noble rover
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with enouhg people

grizzled birch
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Troll armour is the right tier of gear, just light armour and not heavy

urban olive
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aight

rustic cosmos
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I mined more copper, so maybe? If it’s not gone already

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Probably only enough for like one set even though it’s two full stacks of copper

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The bronze recipe eats copper so fast

grizzled birch
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If its for lacking gear related to the boss fight; if @noble rover is fine with it I might 'discover' some bronze and troll skins in my inventory after I conveniently visit single player for people to be prepped

urban olive
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No

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I’m not weegy but I don’t want people bringing in more stuff from single player

grizzled birch
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Indeed; I'm just leaving the option because this might become a problem later on if some people want to do the boss fight but equipment isn't prepared for them

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But it shouldn't be what we do regularly

urban olive
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We’ve done it often enough that any more will make it a regular thing, in my opinion

grizzled birch
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I've only seen like once or twice and once illegally?

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Either way; it will become a problem later on; ignoring the fact that iron and bronze are limited resources and we have a lot of people to upkeep; people aren't going to all jump on the hardest areas and grind materials. We will run short eventually, so the plan then is either forcing people to skip a boss; or waiting even longer for progression

Not everyone can get on regularly to farm their own materials and I know there isn't 4 extra full sets of gear, just waiting for those players for the boss happening in <6 hours

urban olive
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Right at the start with the bees, someone had a weight belt before we had the merchant, the stone and the lox. Whether legal or illegal, I am personally not a fan of Progression breaks like that. I’m not trying to be antagonistic or argue, I just want me opinion on this to be known. Im sorry if I was coming off aggressive.

grizzled birch
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The bees weren't a progression break, but removing days worth of farming to supply the amount of players we have

The weight belt and Lox weren't authorised

The stone for the building was entirely to leave it uncomplete, hence why the building wasn't completed; because we didn't have the right thing to do it. Considering that progression is being hamstringed by intervals. If you don't like it, remove the pillars; it wouldn't bother me, just means I have a lot more work to remake the building once we get iron

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The issue we have realistically is magnitude; we could have speedran the game in two days with the quantity of players we had. A few considerations need to be made in the case of extremely limited resources.

It would be akin to if we were playing minecraft and everyone wanted a dragons egg, but only one spawns in the game entirely

grizzled birch
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I assume you have to sail at least an island over unless you are digging up every 5ft of the swamps we do have

rustic cosmos
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Not that far actually

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I found another patch of copper like right next to the base

grizzled birch
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Quite lucky then considering they don't respawn

rustic cosmos
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I thought I’d have to go farther

grizzled birch
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How far did you expect you'd need to go then?

rustic cosmos
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I originally went up past spawn

grizzled birch
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Even though we have a base in the swamps?

rustic cosmos
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I haven’t played this before Jaz

grizzled birch
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No problem, I'm just wondering

rustic cosmos
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I don’t know everywhere that copper spawns

grizzled birch
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Thats fine, you've done good finding the ones to help the group

rustic cosmos
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Also teleporters didn’t work for me

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When I had copper

grizzled birch
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I believe the server went up before we completed that conversation yeah

prisma oak
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metals all prevent teleporting, unless it's shaped into a tool

rustic cosmos
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Uuuugh

grizzled birch
# urban olive Right at the start with the bees, someone had a weight belt before we had the me...

Either way, I hope some of my point is proven, we have newer players; just wanting to help out, farm a bit of materials; and we will soon run into issues where they'll need to walk basically everywhere due to the distance and limited availability of some materials. Can't wait for iron to become a massive pain for the group.

We don't want to cure every problem with the idea; but we are going to run into some issues with just how many people drop in and out, especially for people who log off with things in their inventories like tools

prisma oak
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so we'll either need to ship iron home, or set up a whole new workshop near a swamp

grizzled birch
little obsidian
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Was just on, we have 42 copper and 2 bronze
Plenty of copper deposits left in the south east

prisma oak
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Elder planned for 5 hours from now, right?

grizzled birch
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I completely agree we shouldn't make anything a habit, and I hope people can figure out some method of listing how many players we have; and setting up equipment sets for them.
Its just unreasonable in some situations to expect that of the one or two people who might play more regularly; to supply that under a time limit

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It has however been a thing I've seen here sometimes daily "We need to stop making/upgrading bronze stuff, we don't have enough"

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We basically have to make a choice
Either force people to 'opt in' to a list to participate in the boss more than a day in advance
Force a first come first served basis on the gear we do have; forcing people to not just spam craft what they want when they want it on a raid day
Or force some people to go into the boss fight without gear
Or maybe some extra super secret bonus option I haven't listed

Because we are going to run out of materials at some point based on how I expect this to go down

prisma oak
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kinda annoying that 1+2=1

grizzled birch
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Hmm?

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True

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Valheim smelting is stupid like that

prisma oak
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i mean, i'd maybe expect some loss to slag, but not a whole two ingots worth

grizzled birch
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But fine, I present the issue to you

We might not have the problem this time around; because people were enthusiastic to some degree, ignoring the massive shortage of troll hide for any light armour and the constant complaining of low bronze

In the future, we will run into a situation where some people who want gear to fight the boss; expect the materials to be 'there for them' on boss day.

How do you; as the people doing the boss, want to deal with that?
Iron requires dungeon completion, Root gear requires hunting abominations.
Or Silver tier gear, wolf armour and fenris

Are you going to expect people during the week to amass enough of those materials for an entire raid group?

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A full set of wolf gear is about 65 silver, fenris requires doing a bunch of dungeons to amass 60 fur

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Can't wait for the trophy grinding those people will be forced to do also

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Two drake trophies per helmet? Or a cultist trophy?

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Since I completely agree singleplayer items are stupid to be bringing into this; how do we want to arrange the week period that the 2-3 people who will do this, to hunt for a full equipment set, tailored to the 8 people doing the boss

prisma oak
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oh, since i'm pretty much bow exclusive, how many abominations would it take for a root set?

grizzled birch
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Assuming say; 3 people choose light gear, please go hunt me 40 abominations in a weeks period at that point

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Not counting the deer hide, leather scraps and ancient bark also going into that, at 120 ancient bark per set for full up

prisma oak
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i know we're pretty good for hide and scraps rn

grizzled birch
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Yeah, we have quite a few of the materials that are easier to gather

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I just see this becoming stupid if we hit the 4th or 5th boss and people joining the raids expect gear on the spot

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I half wanted someone to come up with a "But its a community project, we should help out others"
Which would be the best point against my wall of text. We should aim to have fun and that'll be best when we have people doing good and fun things

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'Logistics be damned'

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On the bright side we can be happy that iron and technically black metal are endless if you grind the specific mobs for it

urban olive
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Dude, jaz

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I gave my opinion and I didn’t want to argue

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But I’m definitely feeling a little attacked for sharing that opinion

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You’re throwing walls of text at me like I made some big blow up about bringing stuff in from outside

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Do it however you want to, honestly.

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Im done with this conversation because I don’t want to have a fight about this

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You seem like a cool person

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And I’m having a good mental day for the first time in a long time

grizzled birch
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Sorry if you feel that me realising a bigger issue was a problem, and presenting it to the group as a whole was targeted

urban olive
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So I mean this sincerely, I trust you and weegy and everyone else to sort it out to make it fun for everyone

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Okay?

grizzled birch
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Your concerns are valid and I completely agree with them, sorry if you felt targeted

urban olive
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Thank you. You brought up some great points to take into consideration. I’m glad you did.

grizzled birch
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I think not including me, because I've been completely unhelpful to the group in regards to half of this; I think like 4-6 people gather resources and play regularly? And I expect a turnout of maybe 6-8 people

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So it won't be nearly as bad for now as I might think

urban olive
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I’m definitely guilty of not playing and gathering resources very much. I have been hyper focusing on some other games, but I’ll definitely be on around 4:30 to help gather what I can before the boss

grizzled birch
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I haven't hit a single copper or tin rock, picked up any flint, nor intentionally hunted animals for food; so I'm sure I'm worse

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The most I did was use some bronze for tools; build a big building no one really cares about and had Ty help me doing that when I didn't benefit anyone by completing the project

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And thats my entire playtime

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Ty was a legend though for helping

urban olive
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Syrup is MVP

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I planted a bunch of turnips and carrots

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My spacing is kinda trash but I err on the side of caution and space things fairly far apart so they don't stop growing

limber surge
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gonna take a nap, willl wake up 30 mins before boss fight

prisma oak
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... just watched a fish jump onto the deck of the trap

urban olive
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hell yeah?

left frigate
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ELKIER TROPHIES CAN TALK?!

timid pond
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most boss trophies will talk once in a while

long oak
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Yeah. They give you crap for killing em

noble rover
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<@&1055138998475042847> one hour till THE B O S S

long oak
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Bah humbug

noble rover
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Bah you

grizzled birch
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I feel somewhat jokingly inclined to tank for the boss; I wasn't planning to play but it'd be funny for me to use that playstyle

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When are people planning to get on to actually prep

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Or is that one hour the start of prep

queen pasture
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Who you be fighting ?

left frigate
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Tree man

queen pasture
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ahh the "hide under the summon platform cheese" man

left frigate
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wait really?

grizzled birch
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Yeah...

queen pasture
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Yeah

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He spawns his attacks on the plaform and you can hit his shins

left frigate
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he is screwed

grizzled birch
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Eh, I mean it requires a bunch of digging we likely don't care about because that sort of cheese strat would be boring for the initial fight

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But I highly expect we might have a base under there afterwards

queen pasture
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If you have a team it isnt that bad either , IIRC his AOEs arent that big

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And you all made me revisit my world
This world was created when the game came to steam

grizzled birch
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<t:1673740800:F> is <t:1673740800:R>

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And then I have to immediately work afterwards

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Deadlines

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Make me dead

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Inside

queen pasture
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Also dont be a fool like me and create failsafes while constructing stuff like this

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When you see your cart full of wood roll down from almost the top of the mountain down into the ocean...

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May it be a lesson to you all villagers

noble rover
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<@&1055138998475042847> the boss fight is starting!

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pile on in

long oak
limber surge
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@left frigate boss dead?

left frigate
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3 times over

limber surge
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Dang

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Just wake up myself from the nap to help

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Welp, guess I'll go back lol

urban olive
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this voice chat sure is something

royal notch
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dang I should have kept to normal levels of stuff

limber surge
long oak
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All hail the holy mackerel!

limber surge
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@grizzled birch big boat where?

grizzled birch
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Near the base in the swamp area

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Figured if we are ferrying stuff there was no point me taking it all around to the east

grizzled birch
rustic cosmos
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yes

grizzled birch
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If I didn't have deadlines for my projects in like 8 hours; I might have stuck around but I needed to finish work and joining the boss stuff wasted a bunch of time I had lol

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Yay for weekly word counts

queen pasture
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@grizzled birch I completely rewrote my presentation for my final exam 3h before I had to leave home… Its just a matter of panic fueled management

queen pasture
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Okay I see one thing that hasnt improved at all is Valheims problematic building

timid pond
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problematic?

queen pasture
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placing anything below you or above you

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Just placing those second level walls and placing supports below platforms is next to impossible

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If there was just a simple grid snap when placing some supports would help so you can "stake" out your build

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Though I gotta say I found a QoL mod that I cant live without now in the future and its just logical

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Crafting stations on wheels

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no need to relocate or build more workstations or masonry stuff just because the corner of your build is outside of the range

left frigate
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oh that is nice

timid pond
long oak
# queen pasture

I don’t think it’s that bad?

It felt jank but fine to me. Compared to ARK’s tomfoolery it felt amazing.

grizzled birch
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Now for stone buildings for example, because the walls won't snap on the outside, it will always cover the floor tiles somewhat

bleak citrus
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did you push and hold the button that removes snap locking?

grizzled birch
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I don't see how that changes the fact they removed a snap location that used to exist. It is extremely hard to place those types of walls on the outside of wooden floors while keeping it on the same grid

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Before you could reliably build walls on the edge of tiles, which gave a bit more space, now the only location thats 'valid' like that is on top

bleak citrus
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I think I need to play around with things next to see what you mean again

grizzled birch
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I mean I did a whole example for you before didn't I?

bleak citrus
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yeh but i myself didnt play around with things

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maybe i should of to understand better at the time but i was focusing on other stuff back then

long oak
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I like smaller buildings. makes you have to think more about space

bleak citrus
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cause i know there is a button you hold to completely remove snap locking

long oak
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and also possibly build different buildings for different things

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instead of one giga mega structure

grizzled birch
long oak
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fair enough

grizzled birch
#

A lot of workstation upgrades don't respect their own graphics for hitboxes

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And chests can overlap majorly meanwhile

bleak citrus
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at least we have a big stone fire in the workshop now

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that was annoying at first had to remove floor to put in stone platforms and then put the fire down

grizzled birch
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Lol yuup

bleak citrus
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also had to rearrange the pot so we could reach it cause of the iron fire spits

grizzled birch
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Theres a reason I went out of my way to terraform for the greater halls floor foundations

bleak citrus
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technically the workshop is on level ground

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also had to make a stone platform pillar to put a fire in our main swamp base treehouse

grizzled birch
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You need the supports and building edges to be their own supports to replace it and not every tile of the workshops floor is even foundation

prisma oak
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should i assume iron arrows are still not outclassing fire arrows?

bleak citrus
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i honestly wouldnt know

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all i know is that they have 42 pierce and fire arrows have 11 pierce with 22 fire damage

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all i know is when we get to obsidian arrows and up im not going to use fire arrows at all if i get around to using bows

prisma oak
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i assume after bone mass, frost arrows would be the best

bleak citrus
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probably not

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when we go into the mountains its all creatures used to the cold

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or use cold against us

prisma oak
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i mean elsewhere

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i believe frost does extra damage to wet enemies?

bleak citrus
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also man are drakes going to be annoying when we get to the point of its being them that attack our base

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just flying over our walls

grizzled birch
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Mechanically iron arrows are 'better' than fire arrows, but the fire damage when against an enemy taking double damage to fire; will do more than fire arrows since its 11+22x2=55 vs 42; arguably against enemies weak to fire, fire arrows are better than obsidian even, at 55 total vs 52 total; unless you care about the staggering effect, Frost arrows tend to remain viable for a long time after though depending on what enemies you are against even when compared to silver or carapace arrows

bleak citrus
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stop your math i dont do math in games i just shoot arrows

grizzled birch
bleak citrus
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probably obsidian when i get a bow finally

grizzled birch
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😛

bleak citrus
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now that i think about it why x2 to the fire arrow one

grizzled birch
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You don't care about math, so why would it matter that the piercing damage and the fire damage are dealt with via resistances differently using math

bleak citrus
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but no why add the x2 into the equation?

prisma oak
bleak citrus
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that bit i dont get

prisma oak
#

i'd assume enemies get the same debuff as players, at least

bleak citrus
#

i know if we are wet while wearing our wolf warm stuff the cold can still get us

grizzled birch
bleak citrus
#

you still never answered me about the x2 in the equation

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-_-

grizzled birch
prisma oak
#

anyway, i'm trying to hunt abominations for root armor

bleak citrus
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except as we go into the game we will be firing at slimes etc in the swamp to shooting wolves and drakes

urban olive
bleak citrus
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the annoying thing is when i got the recipes for the root armor i wanted it but knew i could never get enough materials for it

grizzled birch
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Dinga, I could go into a massive list of the conditions that effect damage for the viability of items, weapons and gear; but thats 'too much math' for most people.
A basic rundown is enough to answer the question

urban olive
prisma oak
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what enemies are weak to pierce(if any)

urban olive
#

By the way, there is a third crypt in the bone mass swamp

grizzled birch
#

I prefer light armour, so that makes 4 people potentially; I'll end up hunting my own set maybe a bit tbh

urban olive
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I didn’t do it cause ReasonsTM

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So it’s sitting there

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Waiting to be mined

bleak citrus
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its why i hunt them with spears

grizzled birch
urban olive
#

Also destroyed a skeleton and 2 draugr spawners in that swamp

bleak citrus
#

bonemass fight is just going to be us smacking it with maces

grizzled birch
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Abominations are very resistant to pierce damage; aka most arrows

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So 25% damage taken

urban olive
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I keep trying to get enough iron for a mace and then realize I want to make other things lmao

bleak citrus
#

im just sticking to my bronze mace

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i only have the iron armor cause i know im going to be going into mountains so i would at least like to survive against wolves

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hopefully

urban olive
#

Yeah I planned on making iron armor for when I have to tank strong enemies

bleak citrus
#

and hopefully there are things in our main island mountains but not betting on it

urban olive
#

Hopefully indeed

bleak citrus
#

my experience of i was always if there is anything it will be limited

urban olive
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I know we can find new muddy scrap piles once we beat bonemass

bleak citrus
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hopefully plenty of obsidian at least

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i wonder how much of that iron i smelted yesterday will be sucked away before i come back in

urban olive
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I’m straight gonna go cut down all the trees in the bonemass swamp lmao

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That’s why I camp the iron I smelt

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Make a personal chest if you want specific resources or items set aside for yourself

urban olive
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Personal chests can only be opened by you and have a durability of 10k health

bleak citrus
#

oh i do have a "personal" chest but its jsut an iron one right next to my bed with "Dingas things" sign above it

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personal ones have very little room if memory is correct

urban olive
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Yeah

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Only six slots

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Still, worth it imo

bleak citrus
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oh and here i thought it was 8

grizzled birch
#

I'd also to some degree request people don't go spamming a bunch of them; it really doesn't help the group if people decide "I mined these 8 stacks of iron, no one gets them"

bleak citrus
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unless your like me and straight up use it for something important

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like our new bin

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best investment ive ever done in this village

grizzled birch
#

I mean yeah, storage for a thing you are building or saving up for great; but I could see someone private chesting a bunch of iron or some other material for no real purpose

urban olive
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I don’t think the people playing are greedy enough for that

bleak citrus
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i only made my chest cause there was only 2 iron left after i made a bin

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at the base

urban olive
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I’m just using it for equipment that I wanna use

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Like a set of iron armor for when I wanna mob farm

bleak citrus
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i dont even want to make new tools with iron except for maybe a pickaxe as i think about it

urban olive
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I’ve also basically started living in the swamp lmao

grizzled birch
bleak citrus
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im willing to be stupid and go into mountains with my bronze sword

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oh that one was annoying i knew there was cultivator but i couldnt find it so i made a new one

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i think you might of been there for that jaz

grizzled birch
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I don't expect someone to be malicious about it, but I could see people doing forgetful things

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Yeah I think I was

bleak citrus
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i just needed 3 turnips for cooking upgrade

urban olive
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Lmao yeah we need iron picks For the next mining tier

bleak citrus
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so yeh maybe armor if said person wants it but iron pickaxe is unconditional

grizzled birch
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Yeah, so I could see people private chesting or logging off with an iron pickaxe when we really need to save on materials; considering I bet someones got a 4th level iron pick already

urban olive
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Eh

bleak citrus
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oh logging off with a iron pickaxe is fine we will probably make enough for everyone

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mainly cause i really dont want to worry about trying to keep track of pickaxes

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and there is also the factor of if you happen to be in the dark forest or in the swamps get thistle and or blueberries cause we kinda ran out last time i checked

grizzled birch
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Run out of thistle? Lol...

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How bad is the food consumption for players anyway

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I expect the repeated dying upped it a bunch?

bleak citrus
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we did make a bunch of anti poison for the long run

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speaking of food consumption we probably also need plenty of boar meat too

prisma oak
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i see one cultivator in dinga's chest, and another in a chest under the fermenter room's floor

bleak citrus
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yeh thats the one i had to make

urban olive
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If we ever do valheim again, we need mods to improve farming. both placement and as to what plants we can farm. Not being able to farm raspberry and blueberry bushes is straight bullshit

bleak citrus
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at one point i thought we could

grizzled birch
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I do agree in regards to things like that; we have too high a consumption I think for what can be naturally harvested

bleak citrus
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oh right i also do try to find abandoned farms but i never actually found any

grizzled birch
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Yeah nah we can't, its a 300 second timer of destructible, non-replantable berry bushes

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Considering something very specific there may be a work around but I'll have to try and get weegy to directly monitor things if I can figure it out

bleak citrus
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the abandoned farms do still usually have a bounty of berries

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usually

queen pasture
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Almost always, „almost“

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Reason why I use a mod to be able to plant all. Just makes sense that you would be able to uproot a berry bush

prisma oak
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specifically uprooting sounds good, if devs don't want berries too farmable, just let us relocate what we find instead of travelling miles repeatedly just to pick a handful each trip

limber surge
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Yep

bleak citrus
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at least they added a bin

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now let us violently ripe berry bushes out of the ground

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we see all these farms abandoned so we know someone knows how to plant them!

urban olive
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If possible, I honestly want someone with admin powers to spawn in a berry and rasperry patch near the main spawn

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idk what or if the game has admin powers like that

prisma oak
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after disposing of greydwarf eyes and outdated equipment so fast, i don't think the obliterator is gonna get used that often

bleak citrus
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you clearly didnt see me using it then

urban olive
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What did you use on it, dinga?

bleak citrus
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the others use it for murdering themselves but i come back with who knows what that i already know we have too much of and just dump it in

prisma oak
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greydwarf eyes are the only thing i know we get too much of?

bleak citrus
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im surprised no one notices the repeated thunder strikes if anyone is home at the time

urban olive
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There are some things we always want more of, like resin

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are y'all on right now?

bleak citrus
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boar heads also really too

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i just chuck them in

urban olive
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Yeah a lot of trophies can be trashed

bleak citrus
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not troll

urban olive
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They're used by something?

bleak citrus
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i think troll and deer is all we really need that i know off

prisma oak
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nah, it's past 4am, i should've gone to bed a hour ago

urban olive
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Other than as a boss summon, what are deer heads used for?

bleak citrus
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boss summons

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you havent seen dawn and the others just mass spawning bosses

urban olive
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Apparently not

bleak citrus
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dawn kept begging me for help when they did multiple elders

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i just ignored it and kept at my iron smelting

urban olive
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lmao fuck around, meet find out!

limber surge
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:(

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I'll see who helps you two out >:(

urban olive
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Lmao syrup will help me out

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syrup is mvp of the server

limber surge
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True

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But syrup won't save you from me..

bleak citrus
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I should go map out mountains now

urban olive
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I mapped out the rest of the bonemass swamp on my own

bleak citrus
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i thought i had already mapped out it out sorta

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unless like the large swamp problem for some reason that didnt save?

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for some reason i had to keep coming back so people could see the large swamp on the shared map

queen pasture
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Also if you are in the swamp :
Surtling farms

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for cores and coal

urban olive
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So the inner part of the bonemass swamp was not mapped

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Just the edges

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I found a third crypt in the middle of an unmapped area

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I didn’t do it cause I was getting messed up by the local mobs, but it’s there

bleak citrus
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even marked some of them ages ago

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seriously there were many in our main swamp i just stopped trying to mark them

queen pasture
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When I first found that out by accident I was like „whaaaa“

bleak citrus
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you know the best place to farm surtling cores

queen pasture
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One of them chased me into water and just died

bleak citrus
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the far south

queen pasture
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And I was like… „Can I dig around their spawner ??“

bleak citrus
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they just die in the ocean repeatedly

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oh yes you can!

queen pasture
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Yep

bleak citrus
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i remember one of my mates in the first server i was in

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did just that

queen pasture
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I had 3 near my swamp and I just cycled between them

bleak citrus
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we have

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i dont even know anymore

queen pasture
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later way too much coal and cores

bleak citrus
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could be 10

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could be more in here

urban olive
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oh do surtlings drop coal?

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I actually have yet to see a surtling tbh

queen pasture
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Little fire imp looking thingies in the swamp

rustic cosmos
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Same

queen pasture
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they spawn around big flame geysers

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you can dig the earth underneath and they will drop into the water and die

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you just need to collect the loot then

bleak citrus
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if you want to see them some of the geysers are marked

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also now that i remember who the hell put a hot tub in the middle of the swamp base!

bleak citrus
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if you saw where they put it Cry you too would go "what the hell!?"

bleak citrus
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demolishes hot tub

limber surge
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Oh go for it!

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oh sweet!

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they're showing art for the ashlands enemies

bleak citrus
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show it

limber surge
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check their steam new

prisma oak
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found the worst crypt

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just the entrance and two hall segments

long oak
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Oof

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I once found one that basically every hallway had skelly spawers in it. My gear was trashed by the end.

little obsidian
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I think a smelter ate some iron

grizzled birch
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Did we not feed it enough beef so it lacked iron in its diet?

bleak citrus
onyx grove
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Just plant more trees around it and then cut them down

long oak
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Roll logs into logs to break em

onyx grove
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At least from my experience falling logs can fell or destroy stronger trees

bleak citrus
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you dont understand

long oak
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Not falling, fallen. Logs deal true damage.

bleak citrus
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this is the UNBREAKABLE giant trees in the swamp

long oak
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Even the ones you personally move.

long oak
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The hell.

bleak citrus
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they dont even take damage when you hit them

long oak
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Yeah I know the type

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That’s stupid.

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Although imagine if you could get inside.

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Unbreachable base

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By mobs anyways

prisma oak
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too bad you can't build in dungeons

limber surge
long oak
prisma oak
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surtling geysers seem to make kilns mostly useless

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especially since i've seen at least 5 in the main swamp

bleak citrus
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I did say there were ALOT when i first showed you all that swamp

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and the kilns are still quite handy cause you can still make alot more coal then simply going to the swamp geysers cause you still have to wait for more to spawn and die

prisma oak
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i just walked to 3, and got a stack and a half of coal

bleak citrus
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i go to the kiln and get 10 or more stacks pretty fast

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i see the fire boys as only a surtling core farm and thats it at least from my view point

prisma oak
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the thing is, kilns eat our already constantly depleting wood, while surtlings don't

bleak citrus
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you didnt see what i put behind the base yet have you

prisma oak
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a new forest?

bleak citrus
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also wood comes pretty fast i just run into the woods get 10 stacks and then proceed to turn that into coal

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at one point i got way too much wood also just from fending off all the grey dwarf attacks at one point

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that and too many eyes

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I love that bin

prisma oak
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still, it's lower effort. even more if we make another base in middle of the geysers

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we never have too much wood

bleak citrus
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exactly nothing wrong with making lots of coal from that butt load of wood

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so yeh i still see surtlings only as farms for there cores im alway going to prefer kilns over just running into swamps to go kill fire boys for coal

prisma oak
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don't have to kill them

bleak citrus
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yeh you do

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how else do you get the items off them

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mug them?

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pay them money in exchange for coal?

prisma oak
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just lower the ground around the geysers into the water and they die from "natural causes"

bleak citrus
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thats still us technically killing them

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we just made it more efficient

prisma oak
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one of the geysers was already below water though

bleak citrus
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probably because one of us already went to it and pickaxed it

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i completely forgot next time im in game im just taking my boat and going to explore mountains

urban olive
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got yourself some good cold resist

bleak citrus
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yep

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got a stack of ten

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but knowing me ill probably take a small amount of it and leaving it at base incase i die

prisma oak
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oh wait, mountain progression isn't behind bonemass?

urban olive
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Finding certain ore deposits is

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bonemass gives us an item that lets us dig up "hidden" ore deposits

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we should definitely do bonemass this upcoming weekend because that's also how we find more muddy scrap piles

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we can find them in swamps

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outside of crypts

bleak citrus
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yeh im just going over to where i would like to think is a massive mountain and go check it out map it out etc

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and hopefully find a good stone ruin to build a base in

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(when we truly go to a mountain we will need to bring iron for a stone cutter and fix up a ruin)

prisma oak
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if our neighboring mountains haven't been explored, i guess i'll check them tomorrow

bleak citrus
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i know dawn went to one of them

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but cause there small there might not be as much or nothing at all up there

urban olive
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why do we need to build a base inside a ruin?

bleak citrus
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we dont, someone just here just wishes they could

grizzled birch
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I mean technically it might prevent the whole random stupid wave defence thing

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Seeing how the game calculates the gamestage of 'the world' rather than any players. So if someone new joined in 3-4 bosses time, good luck fighting mistland enemies using scrap leather gear

bleak citrus
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the waves will always come no matter where you are

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they activate on the player not on a base

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huh apparently there is a surtling attack event after bonemass is dead

grizzled birch
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Theres a lot of attacks and they care not for personal progression

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I forget if it was a chance per person or more of a general thing

bleak citrus
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i mean technically they do we wont be attacked by draugrs around the base until the bonemass is dead

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its also like how we didnt get attacked by grey dwarves and the like until after we killed the deer

grizzled birch
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So if someone new joined in 3-4 bosses time, good luck fighting mistland enemies using scrap leather gear

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Pretty sure the game doesn't care in regards to the players, only world

bleak citrus
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just imagining new players coming in then a goblin event happens

grizzled birch
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But its why I 'dislike' some specific games handling of 'co-op'
Similar to how in eco you can't even play half the game unless you have the stars to do tasks

bleak citrus
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your saying you hate it when event difficulty is based off whether someone has beaten X numbered boss in the sequence

grizzled birch
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I'm saying I dislike games forcing the requirements of 'keeping up' or 'forced co-op'

For example, we can't have two groups of people on this valheim server, with one group being people who wanted to take it 'slower' and do bosses at a weekly pace, while the other wants to do the bosses every 2 days

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Eco; you can't even functionally play past a point, without either waiting ages, or having a new player on to 'fill' that role of a specialised task, that you can't even queue up crafts for otherwise

bleak citrus
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i aint even paying attention to most of that boss stuff ive just been sailing preparing for after X current boss

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also to be honest one of those said groups it wasnt even a "they wanted it to be weekly" thing it was every few weeks we might go kill the next boss

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so it was quite the extreme wait between bosses really

grizzled birch
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For some people though, its a perfect amount of time because they can only show up now and again, mainly on weekends

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The key point I'm making though Dinga is that we never had the 'choice' to split up the groups, because the slower moving group would end up with raids from the highest boss the 'server' has unlocked

bleak citrus
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to be fair that was an extremely long time even when waiting for the deer

grizzled birch
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Deer, could have been argued to be a first day boss tbh

bleak citrus
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and it wasnt

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it was quite some time before someone went yeh we finally have permission to kill it

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and once we killed it we were probably ready to immediately go kill the elder but then it was another extremely long wait

grizzled birch
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Considering this started when 'the manager' of the thing was busy with IRL, it wasn't that bad a pacing

bleak citrus
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it was bad

grizzled birch
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Lets move it to once a month so we can call it 'bad'

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Week has a balance

bleak citrus
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no it was bad

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especially for the deer at one point i had thought we had killed the deer cause i misheard people and i believed it cause i saw we already had bronze

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hell the bonemass was the only one that the wait wasnt as bad cause it gave me time to locate a good area for iron

queen pasture
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Personally I dont think the "raids" are that much of a problem

grizzled birch
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Well I hope you keep these thoughts in mind for the questionnaire

queen pasture
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At least when I played solo they were so infrequent that I almost forget they can happen

bleak citrus
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i was worried for when the troll raids started but i found out it was only 2 trolls only

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so that wasnt as bad

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no one is going to struggle with 2 trolls when they all have arrows

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im kinda glad now i told everyone to use raised ground for the wall

prisma oak
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we only had to wait like 3-4 days for deer boss, since server went live mid week

grizzled birch
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Ah yes, an entire swamp raid; because why not interrupt my building

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Please destroy literally all the things I spent hours building at the dock

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Ah yes, because one player can TOTALLY defend against some 20+ draugur and 30 skellies, some with bows, for more than 5 minutes

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Because you know; they decided to make those events time based, so you could kill hundreds and it won't prevent it spawning

urban olive
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What happens if you just log out

grizzled birch
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Game saves and quits to desktop