#Community Village Game
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I want that Valheim building class some time, I wanna make something like the greater hall
you probably would need to fortify it cause there would be a black forest next to it
That and I'm intentionally building viking style buildings, the 'greater' hall as someone called it was taken from some viking buildings with a double layered roof, once I can angle it at 45 degrees I'll probably put a chimney on it too
Yup thats why I'm planning the longphort
Basically a shore fortress used by vikings
Mostly for raiding
still want the class, sue me for being curious on architecture
I mean sure, when I redo the roof of the 'greater' hall, I need to find who called it that because I don't want to be the one calling it that and sound egotistical or something
But when I redo that roof to be proper, I'll show you a bit of how I was managing it beforehand
If you make the docks portion a jagged mess, you could call it a Longfjort, instead. :P
Cade did it, blame Cade I'm not egotistical
I only thought 'superior hall' in my head, other people named it the 'greater hall'
speaking of the halls, what are we gonna do with the old hall
I mean when we start expanding what we are doing, it easily works for more storage of processed goods and all that
aye storage
Its close enough to the original warehouse to be an overflow and expansion
I seem to be called "somebody" a lot
havent been here long enough to be quickly remembered
In my case with autism and poor short term memory, usually I need to interact with a person regularly for a few months and only about a year after having met them will I recall their name instantly
Everybody's a somebody
gonna hop on heim
Except Mr. Somebody, they're Nobody.
Its the reason I call Syrup 'Ty'
You mean we stopped? What a crime to Luigi
(Wa-)Luigiboard.
Be glad it's somebody, not this or uwuifed
Or susan
Or grump
Those last three are my fault
But yeah, I'm likely to get back on at the end of the week, technically been lying down trying to sleep for a while
I'll either be on at sunday or monday and spend a long time retrofitting as long as someone donates like 2-4 iron to the cause of greater hall development and then the southern longphort
I'm unlikely to involve myself in boss fights, ignoring my RSI and issues, I don't like combat in the game much, it isn't that compelling
same here with similar reasons
I have no doubt people are gonna steamroll the elder, its like the 4th boss and later where I think it might take more than one attempt
I wonder if we can organize a boss rush
When we are closer to the end maybe
Some might have fun trying that once or twice
like portals to instantly summon the next boss as soon as the first one dies
and a chest at each for the summoning stuff
also is anybody feeding steve?
Did anyone capture the two that escaped after all?
?
There will be the next boss Saturday or Sunday
Mentioned before
as a fellow autistic individual, i very much understand how hard it is to remember sparsely interacted with people
i especially have trouble attaching names to faces
I mean plus since I know welsh calling you 'Ty' means I'm calling you 'house' which amuses me
Pronounced more of a 'tea' but spelled Ty
If I wanted to be literal Ty Sup would be closest to 'soup house'
But there isn't really a translation for sup, so its either that or a poorly spelled syrup 'surop'
i've more so enjoyed responding to people shortening thank you with "that's what they call me"
Your new nickname shall be Mercy then?
If we wanted to do something in french
Soup House Mercy
XD
I've been awake for maybe 18 hours
the original came from my cousin helping me set up my first email when i was a kid
Be happy I can't start a soup vs syrup debate on if syrup is a soup or anything since they are by definition too different
since i'm so indecisive, he asked "two favorite letters, favorite word, and favorite number"
Z, Q, Queue, 0.
so initially when i decided it use it as my global username, i'd correct people saying it's pronounced "tee-why-sup-three" which was kinda silly
Hmm
XK, Invidia, 56
I know I like the letter X unsure why K was the second choice, and then invidia, latin for envy and 56 has its own reason only some who know me know
I've had many people complain at my interchanging some S and Z and X letters due to the pronunciation sometimes sounding similar
gib roc
Sew vs Zoo
Xylophone
Silo
I've annoyed many people. I'm surprised no one commented on my minecraft username being Zhadowztriker before tbh
Back when we did the minion MC
i feel like as a crazy project i should just go HEY JAZ GET IN MY WORLD AND HELP WITH MY FJORD BRIDGE
Is that what you wish to spend my one day valheim building projects on
i was more hoping to do this after the current valheim adventure in this server
Then I'm using all my old resources from the worlds i've been one of the final people on in the past on your bridge
You probably lack iron or something somewhere 😛
honestly unlike this server you can bring stuff in just make sure to take excess all back when you have finished the bridge
no more use it for whatever on the bridge just make sure to take any excess resources back
you know like say if you had finished the bridge and there was a little iron left you can just take that back to your world
ive only killed the deer in that world
You can pay me in, something. Dunno what I care of value tbh
if you had bronze i would make one fermenter and make you 10 booze
and the contruction is a doozy cause its a massive Fjord
but this is probably after this server is done, i would just boot up my world sit on the roof of the hut next to bridge and then say go wild with bridge making
I shall exploit the physics and somehow make a truss bridge
its quite the distance
We lack I beams
started a road to where i think the south port is gonna be
time to explore that random swamp i found
well i found 3 crypts so far
but one of them has a big tree monster next to it
but that ones the coastal crypt so we can just shoot arrows at it from the boat
road is done until the south port is built
I'll hop on in abit
...i may have commandeered a few pines and built a sketchy treehouse
oo?
just looked up where mistlands generate, and it seems we've just barely stayed under the minimum distance from spawn where they are found
very far, yeah?
i saw
who has the fishing rod?
i have no idea
i had to go make my own cultivator cause i had no idea who had it or where it was
hm
if anything my answer from my last memory of that fishing rod would of been "dawn probably has it"
Uh oh 😛
I suppose this means I really have to survey early so I can make sure things are fine
just know when you go down that path and finally make it to the sure there is a black forest to your left
and who knows after i explore these 2 swamps i found we might have even more reason to have a port there i already found 3 crypts down here
If its the path stopping on the downhill slope, I could probably put something there but it'd take a handful of terraforming for what I had in mind, but it should be fine
oh were putting the port at the shore line i dont know why it just stops there
Oh no thats fine, it helps to stop when they don't know where I think I can build
@bleak citrus I may or may not have found a mistland
is waiting to hear dawn die horribly
Oh I already did! :D
cant believe you landed there
i dont even land on plains
i dont even go near plains you seen my driving when the wind takes me there
Also nah, Dark forest, mistland and plains
I ventured abit in the plains
To see how big the mist is
its also high
mountains is just a huge bulking thing where mistlands is tall thin spear upwards
So once we are ready, I'll reconnect it
thats what i do when ive set up a little area before i go into swamps
i just delete the portal so others dont go in and leaving conflicting markers
its just going to be small dots pointing where crypts are
also funny how it keeps giving me those deep holes with the stairs but we will never be able to get in cause the water level blocks us
seriously who thought that was a good idea in there game design meetings at valheim company
YEP LOL
there was even a greater draugr at one of them pointlessly guarding one
Ya know; I had completely forgotten about my default equipment set before I searched around my old collection base
Why don't we have more people with atgiers, pole arms
Imo one of the better weapons, default is a long reach stab and the special is a 360 spin attack
Stab: 3.2 range, 20 angle, 1.0 height, 0.3 ray
Swing: 3.0 range, 360 angle, 1.0 height, 0.3 ray, no multitarget penalty
If people are struggling to survive, it should be the best weapon to keep distance and to defend against getting mobbed
Swords primary is 2.4 range, 90 angle, 1.0 height, 0.5 ray, no multitarget penalty
I mean I've not exactly seen everyones primary weapons and all that, I just found it amusing swords became the answer to I think SusanCobras question on enemies, wouldn't the 3.2 range instead of an axe at 2.2 or a sword at 2.4 be better?
Because I'm assuming people are getting hit because they misjudge the sword swing and the enemy ends up close enough to attack
might be the case
im happy with my sword
it's level 4 :)
i remember when you last mentioned it and i was "there is a iron pole arm you know!"
Theres also blackiron ones, and magical ones
magical is probably when i will finally make a spear
like how i have magical hammer etc in my world
Eh, comparing the stats I dunno
bonemass on Saturday, yeah?
bold of you to assume i cared about states
The main damage of blackmetal is about equal-ish to the magical ones damages added up
we havent even done elder yet dawn!
at least by then i should of found more crypts hopefully south of us close enough to our south docks
Have fun punching the elder to death
im hoping there is more in that larger swamp i found
this is the time im pulling out my axe to take his knee caps
Just remember multiple fire damage sources don't stack
doesnt axe and fire do the best cause of tree felling and well fire burns trees
There is no mechanical benefit to using a bronze axe against the elder due to the fact most weapons use basic damage types
also there's magic?????? cool!
Chop damage is considered a neutral damage type Players and all creatures are Immune to this damage type.
As for slash, thats the exact same as swords, knives etc
Similarly to how the pickaxe has a 'pickaxe' damage type, which doesn't stack or affect any creatures
Which is why the trolls melee attack acts like an iron pickaxe
The only actual creature to be affected by a damage type like pickaxe, is the ||stone golem||
I'd throw out wiki links to source but I know people start complaining when they don't get to 'discover' things for themselves
So if you are curious just look up damage types there
nah im just going to assume axe works best against giant tree man and run at him with one when the day comes
Mechanically it does nothing, use the weapon you have best weapon skill with
Its only damage multiplier higher than 1, is fire at x2
the power of parry will say me
Eh they are all still easy bosses
What was it, a bronze shield and like what L18 block you could solo it without being staggered?
Boss damage increases by like 4% per nearby player though so a big group you'd want it to be higher than L18 to be able to be stagger-proof
Bronze buckler
Anyway my mouse finally ran out of battery a minute ago, gimmi a mo
i've been mostly bow, using my axe for melee
i had sword for enemies and club for skeletons and slimes
sword had been VERY hand for almost everything so far
that and i have my spear for trolls
Lol actually
The atgiers (not spears) could stun lock the boss?
Since the secondary attack, the spinny attack, deals 6x stagger
Stagger:
6x: Atgeir secondary attack.
6x: Fists secondary attack.
and I will still never use it
Lets you deal double damage
Jaz
Ah yes, bosses seem to be immune to stagger; they know the power of stagger
You have one yeah?
dont matter to me I like using sword or axe and club
Yesn't
Understandable
i might get one when i have access to the lightning version but i dont intend to get one anytime soon
Who knew fish couldn't be staggered XD
but they can fly
They're immune to damage
Deer are immune to stagger? For some reason?
i just out run them and kill them
Lol
Left them back in a chest near the deactivated portal
Everything is left on that island
I wonder if anyone is gonna decide to use the twin blades when we get around to black metal
that i did see but i dont think ill get those

I just use axe cause carry weight and convenience
I also wear troll armor cause it has the same protection values as bronze for the early levels
Wearing troll leather is like wearing bronze negative 1 quality, it is always a step behind
6 vs 8, 8 vs 10, 10 vs 12, 12 vs 14 totalling Troll set at 36 vs bronze at 42
Troll leather is better for movespeed and sneaky beaky, but it is technically a step behind since it is the light armour path
How british can I sound by saying 'sneaky beaky'
It does amuse me though how the troll hide cape is literally the same as deer hide cape; besides the set bonus
Deer hide being the level below
Once we get root and iron gear the gap will be significant though, so thats where we basically end up keeping an eye out
Yeah I just meant that before you upgrade bronze armor, it’s better to wear troll
I mean yeah considering things like copper are limited resources, upgrading bronze so much like people have been for some things is a bit wasteful
Either that or valheim needs better material generation loops
They could make things cost less to make but require resources to repair
Make it worthwhile to upgrade things for the durability increases
I’ll admit to a couple useless upgrades, if only because I wanted to see what exactly upgraded (hint: it was just durability)
Damage and armour values do go up when upgraded
But its usually by at most 2-5 points
More than likely
Also, do you play grounded, jaz?
To skip a long list of reasons, details and motivations; no
But it isn't a case of that I couldn't buy it, I just had more than enough reasons not to
Oh, that sucks to hear. Sorry that it's not your cup of tea
Eh its not that
Its just a long list of things that would basically flood this chat
Whoever built their base in the tree farm, you are taking risks!
Extreme risks
before we possibly fight the boss on saturday, mosh pit in the arena? chaos
I PLANTED ALL THE CARROTS
i watch syrup make it and then at one point when i went out to get my turnips to upgrade the cooking station they just appeared next to me dead and a grave
I just planted 200 carrot seeds in the fields, if I get three per seed its gonna be needing a chest soon
do you get any seeds at all when you pull them out
It's only a cult while brand new. Once it exists for at least 100 years with no sign of slowing down, it becomes a religion. :P
this is on me, i should have seen this outcome
wanna guess what the cult is?
Something to do with fightclub
nope
not a single bit of fightclub has happened
geniunely shocking
need to arrange a fight
Dinga's always willing
not really im willing to explore horrors of the swamp
Dawn and dren were fighting at one point while i was leveling my swim at the docks at one point
we got staglord
Is it a cult of punching bosses?
Found a 2* boar, is it worth trying to get it back to the main island?
its never enough i make deer stew and meat sauce with carrots
nah just do with how i handle honey i just grab them all out of the boxes and immediately use them at needed
good news i found a bonemass boss runestone
turns out that spot i thought was a really big swamp turned out to be 2 seperate swamps and only one side had a single crypt
now i go bugger it all and just go check out the bonemass swamp and hope there is more crypts there too
No, is puppy
What does it take to tame a wolf?
lots of meat
Oh, well, we definitely had that
not really last time i saw a large amount of boar meat was me turning it all into sausages
also randomly once you have done the south port @grizzled birch the next building project would probably be building a tree house near the Bonemass spot I found once a get a portal over there
at most i would probably build a basic one to just put the portal in but after that just come over and fix it up at whenever you want
i tamed it, it only took 4 neck tails and two in-game days
chose neck tails specifically because they don't have many uses, and we can always get more pretty consistently
living so close to mountains, i'm surprised i was the first to tame a wolf
i will say they have probably one of the most important uses
making anti poison potions
i have no intention to tame any wolves i see only to flee
Nope
I didn’t mention it at the time, but when you died Dinga, I ended up kiting the abomination, 2 draugr, and 2 blobs
Dawn is to be executed to spreading false rumors
Nooo :)
Luckily I had the foresight to grab poison resist mead so I didn’t have to worry about Shaman while mining copper
well i got the first piece of iron im presuming from one of the slimes i was killing
a very very rare chance
considering ive been in the swamps more then anyone else and only now have i finally got on scrap randomly
at least ive found one random crypt near the Bonemass spot
i havent properly explored that whole swamp just yet i was busy building a basic tree house for a portal
my plan is when i eventually get one more iron piece either by chance or because i went in the tomb there ill put a fire up there on a stone block
@noble rover apology for ping, I assume today/tomorrow (saturday) will be boss day?
Weegy can't come to the boss right now, please leave the skulls of your enemies after the tone
Should I grab a spear before we boss?
Spears are weaker Atgiers
Up to you, its better range than a sword or anything if you plan to be in melee; On the bright side spears still let you use a shield
Hmmmmmmmm, depends. Sounds like I'll have to ferry resources more than I care to
@prisma oak ya wolf was hungry, got it to hunt a few necks, now it's near one of the gates on the inside
looking it up, tamed animals don't actually starve to death?
they do
What time tomorrow are we bossing? I have a psychiatry appointment that I have to make but I do wanna boss with the homies
I was thinking this time tomorrow
3 am for me? sure
not really im thinking purely wood based construction and there is a portal straight there now but the south port takes precedence
The difference is youve admitted to not having a sleep schedule jaz
but i am technically ok with my basic tree house i built there
How dare you, I sleep whenever possible
Which is, sporadic and for at most 3 hours at a time
@noble rover you try sleeping on a bed with the springs actively poking out of it, tearing through the material
Yeah, that takes a month to get here
Still waiting, 31st is the date
If I wasn't concerned about getting stabbed I'd grab a photo of some of the springs
7pm tomorrow?
knowing me ill just show up when i show up
Time to do weegys job
The time for the boss tomorrow is <t:1673740800:F> which is <t:1673740800:R>
Yes @noble rover?
Unix to the rescue
I won't even be there; the first two bosses are just boring to me
So I'm skipping them so others can have fun
I've done them a handful of times across other games and even solo; I'll join in the ones after though
you know the bonemass boss is just going to be us beating a giant blob with maces right?
i wonder how much anti poison production will jump once everyone starts to go into the swamp
i was the one mostly using them before
Still more interesting than the deer that is vunerable to fall damage or the tree that made its own exploited platform
Considering I've seen people spam spawn the elder as a joke in solo to kill them, it doesn't interest me
5 elders at one is possible there
im probably going to be the weird moment of im still using my bronze mace at that point too cause im going to be more selective with what tools i make with materials
you mean like lets game it out
Yup

But it is a common tactic overall
i really wish i went game it out style of tree house at the bonemass base now
i already built a basic one there anyway
Me doing building projects is for as long as it stays interesting to do so, because I will spend hours on the project without breaks
This water channel port is interesting enough to me, so I'll be trying it
me knowing any projects in the swamps will probably going to be me standing next to you with a sword and shield
I still petition stamina drinks. I'll need them for building; especially in more dangerous areas
at best for the moment a slight port with raised ground walls might need to be built in the swamp with 3 crypts in it
Get me some really good ones I can burn through
if you promise to also build a port in the swamp with 3 crypts in it ill spam make staminia
also of course it would be high quality stamina potions
why would i ever make minor ones of my own accord
Its more I don't plan to do any form of construction in actively dangerous areas, building work and terraforming keeps me at low stamina, so I'd need it to survive even in self defence
probably today with the potion making when i come in too until they boss thing happens ill be off to looking
But with them I don't mind as much even if I was alone
i did say i would probably be standing over you with a sword and shield
Still requires dodging projectiles
nah not really i see the draugrs long before they get near us
Dies to leeches
thats not as easy to happen as you thing
ive barely been bitten and even then i usually have anti poison
but yeh i just need a port in a the swamp that has the most crypts in it to allow easier transport of iron to a large boat
it respawns!?
YEP
now then does it just walk around or does it want you dead the second you come through the portal?
it wanted us all dead
the second you came through the portal?
nope
then everything is fine
for now
but that is bull crap knowing they just respawn
one of the crypts in the largest cluster has a tree bugger next to it
so I guess that just means that will be the first crypt we delve over there just grabbing all the iron as quickly as possible
build like a torch where it spawns, certain player structures have a I think 20m no spawn radius around them
That works for me
Here I'm surprised Weegy didn't just pin this message calling him out 😛 But yeah
i dont even remember if there was time last time other then "alright were doing it this day" then enough people gathered and we did it
then i leeroyed it and activated the boss when it was obvious we were set and ready
FIGHT PIT CLUBS
i saw that thing when i was running around
i didnt even see it cause in order to see it i would have to run towards the first great hall
which i only did cause i was cooking all the deer meat
also @grizzled birch i filled up fermenters with medium stamina
me both times the forest decided it wanted to move
also the person who put there house on the outside of the fence your house is at the most risk during these attacks they always attack the fence where your home is
also @limber surge i think all the pigs have died of starvation
and just in case for after elder is killed i made more poison resistance
i hate that i found a crypt so close to home but one of them has one of those unbreakable fallen over trees blocking the gateway
the other one is fine but also there are 3 tree monsters in that swamp

ok 3 times ive defended the village from forest is moving attacks
welp guys the swamp just the next island over has way too many crypts and there is even a flame geyser for surtling cores to farm
so what you're saying is, we'll have plenty to do after tomorrow
way too many
when you update your maps the island just east of our island the largest swamp there all the dots that have no letters under them are all crypts
also i have 2 iron smelted to so when i build a treehouse base there i can build a stone thing to put the fireplace on up there
was very lucky 2 of the oozes I faced gave me iron
now i stop cause I was at the end of my mental fortitude out at sea for so long and exploring swamps
i had to completely map that last large swamp with all the crypts before i got out of there
also no tree monsters unlike the smaller swamp to on the south point of that island where there are way too many down there and the only dangers in the good swamp is maybe a wraith randomly spawning and a bunch of spawners in there
I haven't played very much so I'm still on troll armor
do we have enough bronze for decently leveled bronze armor?
It's okay if not, I can't imagine the second boss is gonna be that dangerous
you guys literally punched the last boss to death
i don't think armor is much of a concern to much
Now the question is... can we punch the rest to death?
with enouhg people
Troll armour is the right tier of gear, just light armour and not heavy
aight
I mined more copper, so maybe? If it’s not gone already
Probably only enough for like one set even though it’s two full stacks of copper
The bronze recipe eats copper so fast
If its for lacking gear related to the boss fight; if @noble rover is fine with it I might 'discover' some bronze and troll skins in my inventory after I conveniently visit single player for people to be prepped
No
I’m not weegy but I don’t want people bringing in more stuff from single player
Indeed; I'm just leaving the option because this might become a problem later on if some people want to do the boss fight but equipment isn't prepared for them
But it shouldn't be what we do regularly
We’ve done it often enough that any more will make it a regular thing, in my opinion
I've only seen like once or twice and once illegally?
Either way; it will become a problem later on; ignoring the fact that iron and bronze are limited resources and we have a lot of people to upkeep; people aren't going to all jump on the hardest areas and grind materials. We will run short eventually, so the plan then is either forcing people to skip a boss; or waiting even longer for progression
Not everyone can get on regularly to farm their own materials and I know there isn't 4 extra full sets of gear, just waiting for those players for the boss happening in <6 hours
Right at the start with the bees, someone had a weight belt before we had the merchant, the stone and the lox. Whether legal or illegal, I am personally not a fan of Progression breaks like that. I’m not trying to be antagonistic or argue, I just want me opinion on this to be known. Im sorry if I was coming off aggressive.
The bees weren't a progression break, but removing days worth of farming to supply the amount of players we have
The weight belt and Lox weren't authorised
The stone for the building was entirely to leave it uncomplete, hence why the building wasn't completed; because we didn't have the right thing to do it. Considering that progression is being hamstringed by intervals. If you don't like it, remove the pillars; it wouldn't bother me, just means I have a lot more work to remake the building once we get iron
The issue we have realistically is magnitude; we could have speedran the game in two days with the quantity of players we had. A few considerations need to be made in the case of extremely limited resources.
It would be akin to if we were playing minecraft and everyone wanted a dragons egg, but only one spawns in the game entirely
I haven't had direct input from Pnad but input would be nice here, how far are you having to now travel for mining basic copper and tin?
I assume you have to sail at least an island over unless you are digging up every 5ft of the swamps we do have
Quite lucky then considering they don't respawn
I thought I’d have to go farther
How far did you expect you'd need to go then?
I originally went up past spawn
Even though we have a base in the swamps?
I haven’t played this before Jaz
No problem, I'm just wondering
I don’t know everywhere that copper spawns
Thats fine, you've done good finding the ones to help the group
I believe the server went up before we completed that conversation yeah
metals all prevent teleporting, unless it's shaped into a tool
Uuuugh
Either way, I hope some of my point is proven, we have newer players; just wanting to help out, farm a bit of materials; and we will soon run into issues where they'll need to walk basically everywhere due to the distance and limited availability of some materials. Can't wait for iron to become a massive pain for the group.
We don't want to cure every problem with the idea; but we are going to run into some issues with just how many people drop in and out, especially for people who log off with things in their inventories like tools
so we'll either need to ship iron home, or set up a whole new workshop near a swamp
Considering you had difficulties with some enemies swarming you Cobra; I'd say it would be unfair later on to force one or two players to hunt all the materials; like a situation we are in now, 6 hours till boss for how many? 8 people?
Was just on, we have 42 copper and 2 bronze
Plenty of copper deposits left in the south east
Elder planned for 5 hours from now, right?
I completely agree we shouldn't make anything a habit, and I hope people can figure out some method of listing how many players we have; and setting up equipment sets for them.
Its just unreasonable in some situations to expect that of the one or two people who might play more regularly; to supply that under a time limit
It has however been a thing I've seen here sometimes daily "We need to stop making/upgrading bronze stuff, we don't have enough"
We basically have to make a choice
Either force people to 'opt in' to a list to participate in the boss more than a day in advance
Force a first come first served basis on the gear we do have; forcing people to not just spam craft what they want when they want it on a raid day
Or force some people to go into the boss fight without gear
Or maybe some extra super secret bonus option I haven't listed
Because we are going to run out of materials at some point based on how I expect this to go down
kinda annoying that 1+2=1
i mean, i'd maybe expect some loss to slag, but not a whole two ingots worth
But fine, I present the issue to you
We might not have the problem this time around; because people were enthusiastic to some degree, ignoring the massive shortage of troll hide for any light armour and the constant complaining of low bronze
In the future, we will run into a situation where some people who want gear to fight the boss; expect the materials to be 'there for them' on boss day.
How do you; as the people doing the boss, want to deal with that?
Iron requires dungeon completion, Root gear requires hunting abominations.
Or Silver tier gear, wolf armour and fenris
Are you going to expect people during the week to amass enough of those materials for an entire raid group?
A full set of wolf gear is about 65 silver, fenris requires doing a bunch of dungeons to amass 60 fur
Can't wait for the trophy grinding those people will be forced to do also
Two drake trophies per helmet? Or a cultist trophy?
Since I completely agree singleplayer items are stupid to be bringing into this; how do we want to arrange the week period that the 2-3 people who will do this, to hunt for a full equipment set, tailored to the 8 people doing the boss
oh, since i'm pretty much bow exclusive, how many abominations would it take for a root set?
Full set requires 30 roots per, at 5 dropped per, making 6
Upgraded to level 4 would be 66 roots, or 13.2 per set
Assuming say; 3 people choose light gear, please go hunt me 40 abominations in a weeks period at that point
Not counting the deer hide, leather scraps and ancient bark also going into that, at 120 ancient bark per set for full up
i know we're pretty good for hide and scraps rn
Yeah, we have quite a few of the materials that are easier to gather
I just see this becoming stupid if we hit the 4th or 5th boss and people joining the raids expect gear on the spot
I half wanted someone to come up with a "But its a community project, we should help out others"
Which would be the best point against my wall of text. We should aim to have fun and that'll be best when we have people doing good and fun things
'Logistics be damned'
On the bright side we can be happy that iron and technically black metal are endless if you grind the specific mobs for it
Dude, jaz
I gave my opinion and I didn’t want to argue
But I’m definitely feeling a little attacked for sharing that opinion
You’re throwing walls of text at me like I made some big blow up about bringing stuff in from outside
Do it however you want to, honestly.
Im done with this conversation because I don’t want to have a fight about this
You seem like a cool person
And I’m having a good mental day for the first time in a long time
Sorry if you feel that me realising a bigger issue was a problem, and presenting it to the group as a whole was targeted
So I mean this sincerely, I trust you and weegy and everyone else to sort it out to make it fun for everyone

Okay?
I suggested a few methods, asked others for opinions on material gathering and information, before presenting that it might become a bigger issue than we think; in the case of boss raids and some players only playing for that element
Your concerns are valid and I completely agree with them, sorry if you felt targeted
Thank you. You brought up some great points to take into consideration. I’m glad you did.
I think not including me, because I've been completely unhelpful to the group in regards to half of this; I think like 4-6 people gather resources and play regularly? And I expect a turnout of maybe 6-8 people
So it won't be nearly as bad for now as I might think
I’m definitely guilty of not playing and gathering resources very much. I have been hyper focusing on some other games, but I’ll definitely be on around 4:30 to help gather what I can before the boss
I haven't hit a single copper or tin rock, picked up any flint, nor intentionally hunted animals for food; so I'm sure I'm worse
The most I did was use some bronze for tools; build a big building no one really cares about and had Ty help me doing that when I didn't benefit anyone by completing the project
And thats my entire playtime
Ty was a legend though for helping
Syrup is MVP
I planted a bunch of turnips and carrots
My spacing is kinda trash but I err on the side of caution and space things fairly far apart so they don't stop growing
gonna take a nap, willl wake up 30 mins before boss fight
... just watched a fish jump onto the deck of the trap
hell yeah?
ELKIER TROPHIES CAN TALK?!
most boss trophies will talk once in a while
Yeah. They give you crap for killing em
<@&1055138998475042847> one hour till THE B O S S
Bah humbug
Bah you
I feel somewhat jokingly inclined to tank for the boss; I wasn't planning to play but it'd be funny for me to use that playstyle
When are people planning to get on to actually prep
Or is that one hour the start of prep
Who you be fighting ?
Tree man
ahh the "hide under the summon platform cheese" man
wait really?
Yeah...
he is screwed
Eh, I mean it requires a bunch of digging we likely don't care about because that sort of cheese strat would be boring for the initial fight
But I highly expect we might have a base under there afterwards
If you have a team it isnt that bad either , IIRC his AOEs arent that big
And you all made me revisit my world
This world was created when the game came to steam
<t:1673740800:F> is <t:1673740800:R>
And then I have to immediately work afterwards
Deadlines
Make me dead
Inside
Also dont be a fool like me and create failsafes while constructing stuff like this
When you see your cart full of wood roll down from almost the top of the mountain down into the ocean...
Enjoy my misery
May it be a lesson to you all villagers
Shoulda built ramps.
@left frigate boss dead?
3 times over
this voice chat sure is something
dang I should have kept to normal levels of stuff
All hail the holy mackerel!
@grizzled birch big boat where?
The boat I left was at the unmade southern port
Near the base in the swamp area
Figured if we are ferrying stuff there was no point me taking it all around to the east
Found it?
yes
If I didn't have deadlines for my projects in like 8 hours; I might have stuck around but I needed to finish work and joining the boss stuff wasted a bunch of time I had lol
Yay for weekly word counts
@grizzled birch I completely rewrote my presentation for my final exam 3h before I had to leave home… Its just a matter of panic fueled management
Okay I see one thing that hasnt improved at all is Valheims problematic building
problematic?
placing anything below you or above you
Just placing those second level walls and placing supports below platforms is next to impossible
If there was just a simple grid snap when placing some supports would help so you can "stake" out your build
Though I gotta say I found a QoL mod that I cant live without now in the future and its just logical
Crafting stations on wheels
no need to relocate or build more workstations or masonry stuff just because the corner of your build is outside of the range
oh that is nice
Oh that problem
Forgot about it since I usually played with a build camera mod
I don’t think it’s that bad?
It felt jank but fine to me. Compared to ARK’s tomfoolery it felt amazing.
Technically it got worse; pretty sure they removed the ability to custom place in specific spots.
Before you could place a wall going up on the outer edge of a floor tile, they have removed that tile snap location; now it is only on top or below
Now for stone buildings for example, because the walls won't snap on the outside, it will always cover the floor tiles somewhat
did you push and hold the button that removes snap locking?
I don't see how that changes the fact they removed a snap location that used to exist. It is extremely hard to place those types of walls on the outside of wooden floors while keeping it on the same grid
Before you could reliably build walls on the edge of tiles, which gave a bit more space, now the only location thats 'valid' like that is on top
I think I need to play around with things next to see what you mean again
I mean I did a whole example for you before didn't I?
yeh but i myself didnt play around with things
maybe i should of to understand better at the time but i was focusing on other stuff back then
I like smaller buildings. makes you have to think more about space
cause i know there is a button you hold to completely remove snap locking
and also possibly build different buildings for different things
instead of one giga mega structure
Maybe if the game wasn't so glitchy with item hitboxes and other stuff
fair enough
A lot of workstation upgrades don't respect their own graphics for hitboxes
And chests can overlap majorly meanwhile
at least we have a big stone fire in the workshop now
that was annoying at first had to remove floor to put in stone platforms and then put the fire down
Lol yuup
also had to rearrange the pot so we could reach it cause of the iron fire spits
Theres a reason I went out of my way to terraform for the greater halls floor foundations
technically the workshop is on level ground
also had to make a stone platform pillar to put a fire in our main swamp base treehouse
You need the supports and building edges to be their own supports to replace it and not every tile of the workshops floor is even foundation
should i assume iron arrows are still not outclassing fire arrows?
i honestly wouldnt know
all i know is that they have 42 pierce and fire arrows have 11 pierce with 22 fire damage
all i know is when we get to obsidian arrows and up im not going to use fire arrows at all if i get around to using bows
i assume after bone mass, frost arrows would be the best
probably not
when we go into the mountains its all creatures used to the cold
or use cold against us
also man are drakes going to be annoying when we get to the point of its being them that attack our base
just flying over our walls
Mechanically iron arrows are 'better' than fire arrows, but the fire damage when against an enemy taking double damage to fire; will do more than fire arrows since its 11+22x2=55 vs 42; arguably against enemies weak to fire, fire arrows are better than obsidian even, at 55 total vs 52 total; unless you care about the staggering effect, Frost arrows tend to remain viable for a long time after though depending on what enemies you are against even when compared to silver or carapace arrows
stop your math i dont do math in games i just shoot arrows
Frost applies a slow effect to any enemy, with varying effect based on resistance; lowering movement and general speed
probably obsidian when i get a bow finally
Well I'm not answering your questions am I, so why assume I'm doing the math for you?
😛
now that i think about it why x2 to the fire arrow one
You don't care about math, so why would it matter that the piercing damage and the fire damage are dealt with via resistances differently using math
but no why add the x2 into the equation?
that bit i dont get
i'd assume enemies get the same debuff as players, at least
i know if we are wet while wearing our wolf warm stuff the cold can still get us
Yeah sorry, the wet effect does apply to most creatures in that case, I'm fighting Dinga over math literacy lol
Fire arrows
Deal
11 Piercing
22 fire damage
For an enemy 'very weak' (x2) to fire, greydwarves for example, that makes 11 + (22x2) = 55 damage total; compared to iron arrows listed as 42 piercing
anyway, i'm trying to hunt abominations for root armor
except as we go into the game we will be firing at slimes etc in the swamp to shooting wolves and drakes
Syrup and I are gonna be root buddies
the annoying thing is when i got the recipes for the root armor i wanted it but knew i could never get enough materials for it

Dinga, I could go into a massive list of the conditions that effect damage for the viability of items, weapons and gear; but thats 'too much math' for most people.
A basic rundown is enough to answer the question
We’ll all be root buddies
what enemies are weak to pierce(if any)
By the way, there is a third crypt in the bone mass swamp
I prefer light armour, so that makes 4 people potentially; I'll end up hunting my own set maybe a bit tbh
trolls for starters
its why i hunt them with spears
Trolls and Ticks (mistland)
Also destroyed a skeleton and 2 draugr spawners in that swamp
Abominations are very resistant to pierce damage; aka most arrows
So 25% damage taken
I keep trying to get enough iron for a mace and then realize I want to make other things lmao
im just sticking to my bronze mace
i only have the iron armor cause i know im going to be going into mountains so i would at least like to survive against wolves
hopefully
Yeah I planned on making iron armor for when I have to tank strong enemies
and hopefully there are things in our main island mountains but not betting on it
Hopefully indeed
my experience of i was always if there is anything it will be limited
I know we can find new muddy scrap piles once we beat bonemass
hopefully plenty of obsidian at least
i wonder how much of that iron i smelted yesterday will be sucked away before i come back in

I’m straight gonna go cut down all the trees in the bonemass swamp lmao
That’s why I camp the iron I smelt
Make a personal chest if you want specific resources or items set aside for yourself
More iron gone Lol
Personal chests can only be opened by you and have a durability of 10k health
oh i do have a "personal" chest but its jsut an iron one right next to my bed with "Dingas things" sign above it
personal ones have very little room if memory is correct
I'd also to some degree request people don't go spamming a bunch of them; it really doesn't help the group if people decide "I mined these 8 stacks of iron, no one gets them"
unless your like me and straight up use it for something important
like our new bin
best investment ive ever done in this village

I mean yeah, storage for a thing you are building or saving up for great; but I could see someone private chesting a bunch of iron or some other material for no real purpose
I don’t think the people playing are greedy enough for that
i only made my chest cause there was only 2 iron left after i made a bin
at the base
I’m just using it for equipment that I wanna use
Like a set of iron armor for when I wanna mob farm
i dont even want to make new tools with iron except for maybe a pickaxe as i think about it
I’ve also basically started living in the swamp lmao
For a similar reason of people logging off with things like cultivators and hoes; just tools they forgot to put back in the chest for others to use, people could put something in a private chest and forget it was at some other base
im willing to be stupid and go into mountains with my bronze sword
oh that one was annoying i knew there was cultivator but i couldnt find it so i made a new one
i think you might of been there for that jaz
I don't expect someone to be malicious about it, but I could see people doing forgetful things
Yeah I think I was
i just needed 3 turnips for cooking upgrade
Lmao yeah we need iron picks For the next mining tier
so yeh maybe armor if said person wants it but iron pickaxe is unconditional
Yeah, so I could see people private chesting or logging off with an iron pickaxe when we really need to save on materials; considering I bet someones got a 4th level iron pick already
Eh
oh logging off with a iron pickaxe is fine we will probably make enough for everyone
mainly cause i really dont want to worry about trying to keep track of pickaxes
and there is also the factor of if you happen to be in the dark forest or in the swamps get thistle and or blueberries cause we kinda ran out last time i checked
Run out of thistle? Lol...
How bad is the food consumption for players anyway
I expect the repeated dying upped it a bunch?
we did make a bunch of anti poison for the long run
speaking of food consumption we probably also need plenty of boar meat too
i see one cultivator in dinga's chest, and another in a chest under the fermenter room's floor
yeh thats the one i had to make
If we ever do valheim again, we need mods to improve farming. both placement and as to what plants we can farm. Not being able to farm raspberry and blueberry bushes is straight bullshit
at one point i thought we could
I do agree in regards to things like that; we have too high a consumption I think for what can be naturally harvested
oh right i also do try to find abandoned farms but i never actually found any
Yeah nah we can't, its a 300 second timer of destructible, non-replantable berry bushes
Considering something very specific there may be a work around but I'll have to try and get weegy to directly monitor things if I can figure it out
Almost always, „almost“
Reason why I use a mod to be able to plant all. Just makes sense that you would be able to uproot a berry bush
specifically uprooting sounds good, if devs don't want berries too farmable, just let us relocate what we find instead of travelling miles repeatedly just to pick a handful each trip
Yep
at least they added a bin
now let us violently ripe berry bushes out of the ground
we see all these farms abandoned so we know someone knows how to plant them!

If possible, I honestly want someone with admin powers to spawn in a berry and rasperry patch near the main spawn
idk what or if the game has admin powers like that
after disposing of greydwarf eyes and outdated equipment so fast, i don't think the obliterator is gonna get used that often
you clearly didnt see me using it then
What did you use on it, dinga?
the others use it for murdering themselves but i come back with who knows what that i already know we have too much of and just dump it in
greydwarf eyes are the only thing i know we get too much of?
im surprised no one notices the repeated thunder strikes if anyone is home at the time
Yeah a lot of trophies can be trashed
not troll
They're used by something?
i think troll and deer is all we really need that i know off
nah, it's past 4am, i should've gone to bed a hour ago
Other than as a boss summon, what are deer heads used for?
Apparently not
dawn kept begging me for help when they did multiple elders
i just ignored it and kept at my iron smelting

lmao fuck around, meet find out!
im not the one spawning multiple bosses well that and i was alone for basically most of my mapping expeditions
I should go map out mountains now
I mapped out the rest of the bonemass swamp on my own
i thought i had already mapped out it out sorta
unless like the large swamp problem for some reason that didnt save?
for some reason i had to keep coming back so people could see the large swamp on the shared map
So the inner part of the bonemass swamp was not mapped
Just the edges
I found a third crypt in the middle of an unmapped area
I didn’t do it cause I was getting messed up by the local mobs, but it’s there
yep already established that
even marked some of them ages ago
seriously there were many in our main swamp i just stopped trying to mark them

When I first found that out by accident I was like „whaaaa“
you know the best place to farm surtling cores
One of them chased me into water and just died
And I was like… „Can I dig around their spawner ??“
Yep
I had 3 near my swamp and I just cycled between them
later way too much coal and cores
Little fire imp looking thingies in the swamp
Same
they spawn around big flame geysers
you can dig the earth underneath and they will drop into the water and die
you just need to collect the loot then
if you want to see them some of the geysers are marked
also now that i remember who the hell put a hot tub in the middle of the swamp base!
if you saw where they put it Cry you too would go "what the hell!?"
ME
EHEHEHE
show it
check their steam new
Oof
I once found one that basically every hallway had skelly spawers in it. My gear was trashed by the end.
I think a smelter ate some iron
Did we not feed it enough beef so it lacked iron in its diet?
no the worst crypt is that one i found that has a fallen unbreakable tree blocking the entrance
Just plant more trees around it and then cut them down
Roll logs into logs to break em
At least from my experience falling logs can fell or destroy stronger trees
you dont understand
Not falling, fallen. Logs deal true damage.
this is the UNBREAKABLE giant trees in the swamp
Even the ones you personally move.
they dont even take damage when you hit them
Yeah I know the type
That’s stupid.
Although imagine if you could get inside.
Unbreachable base
By mobs anyways
too bad you can't build in dungeons

huh
surtling geysers seem to make kilns mostly useless
especially since i've seen at least 5 in the main swamp
I did say there were ALOT when i first showed you all that swamp
and the kilns are still quite handy cause you can still make alot more coal then simply going to the swamp geysers cause you still have to wait for more to spawn and die
i just walked to 3, and got a stack and a half of coal
i go to the kiln and get 10 or more stacks pretty fast
i see the fire boys as only a surtling core farm and thats it at least from my view point
the thing is, kilns eat our already constantly depleting wood, while surtlings don't
a new forest?
also wood comes pretty fast i just run into the woods get 10 stacks and then proceed to turn that into coal
at one point i got way too much wood also just from fending off all the grey dwarf attacks at one point
that and too many eyes

I love that bin
still, it's lower effort. even more if we make another base in middle of the geysers
we never have too much wood
exactly nothing wrong with making lots of coal from that butt load of wood
so yeh i still see surtlings only as farms for there cores im alway going to prefer kilns over just running into swamps to go kill fire boys for coal
don't have to kill them
yeh you do
how else do you get the items off them
mug them?
pay them money in exchange for coal?
just lower the ground around the geysers into the water and they die from "natural causes"
one of the geysers was already below water though
probably because one of us already went to it and pickaxed it
i completely forgot next time im in game im just taking my boat and going to explore mountains
got yourself some good cold resist
yep
got a stack of ten
but knowing me ill probably take a small amount of it and leaving it at base incase i die
oh wait, mountain progression isn't behind bonemass?
Finding certain ore deposits is
bonemass gives us an item that lets us dig up "hidden" ore deposits
we should definitely do bonemass this upcoming weekend because that's also how we find more muddy scrap piles
we can find them in swamps
outside of crypts
yeh im just going over to where i would like to think is a massive mountain and go check it out map it out etc
and hopefully find a good stone ruin to build a base in
(when we truly go to a mountain we will need to bring iron for a stone cutter and fix up a ruin)
if our neighboring mountains haven't been explored, i guess i'll check them tomorrow
i know dawn went to one of them
but cause there small there might not be as much or nothing at all up there
why do we need to build a base inside a ruin?
we dont, someone just here just wishes they could
I mean technically it might prevent the whole random stupid wave defence thing
Seeing how the game calculates the gamestage of 'the world' rather than any players. So if someone new joined in 3-4 bosses time, good luck fighting mistland enemies using scrap leather gear
the waves will always come no matter where you are
they activate on the player not on a base
huh apparently there is a surtling attack event after bonemass is dead
Theres a lot of attacks and they care not for personal progression
I forget if it was a chance per person or more of a general thing
i mean technically they do we wont be attacked by draugrs around the base until the bonemass is dead
its also like how we didnt get attacked by grey dwarves and the like until after we killed the deer
So if someone new joined in 3-4 bosses time, good luck fighting mistland enemies using scrap leather gear
Pretty sure the game doesn't care in regards to the players, only world
But its why I 'dislike' some specific games handling of 'co-op'
Similar to how in eco you can't even play half the game unless you have the stars to do tasks
your saying you hate it when event difficulty is based off whether someone has beaten X numbered boss in the sequence
I'm saying I dislike games forcing the requirements of 'keeping up' or 'forced co-op'
For example, we can't have two groups of people on this valheim server, with one group being people who wanted to take it 'slower' and do bosses at a weekly pace, while the other wants to do the bosses every 2 days
Eco; you can't even functionally play past a point, without either waiting ages, or having a new player on to 'fill' that role of a specialised task, that you can't even queue up crafts for otherwise
i aint even paying attention to most of that boss stuff ive just been sailing preparing for after X current boss

also to be honest one of those said groups it wasnt even a "they wanted it to be weekly" thing it was every few weeks we might go kill the next boss
so it was quite the extreme wait between bosses really
For some people though, its a perfect amount of time because they can only show up now and again, mainly on weekends
The key point I'm making though Dinga is that we never had the 'choice' to split up the groups, because the slower moving group would end up with raids from the highest boss the 'server' has unlocked
to be fair that was an extremely long time even when waiting for the deer
Deer, could have been argued to be a first day boss tbh
and it wasnt
it was quite some time before someone went yeh we finally have permission to kill it
and once we killed it we were probably ready to immediately go kill the elder but then it was another extremely long wait
Considering this started when 'the manager' of the thing was busy with IRL, it wasn't that bad a pacing
it was bad
no it was bad
especially for the deer at one point i had thought we had killed the deer cause i misheard people and i believed it cause i saw we already had bronze
hell the bonemass was the only one that the wait wasnt as bad cause it gave me time to locate a good area for iron
Personally I dont think the "raids" are that much of a problem
Well I hope you keep these thoughts in mind for the questionnaire
At least when I played solo they were so infrequent that I almost forget they can happen
i was worried for when the troll raids started but i found out it was only 2 trolls only
so that wasnt as bad
no one is going to struggle with 2 trolls when they all have arrows
im kinda glad now i told everyone to use raised ground for the wall
we only had to wait like 3-4 days for deer boss, since server went live mid week
Ah yes, an entire swamp raid; because why not interrupt my building
Please destroy literally all the things I spent hours building at the dock
Ah yes, because one player can TOTALLY defend against some 20+ draugur and 30 skellies, some with bows, for more than 5 minutes
Because you know; they decided to make those events time based, so you could kill hundreds and it won't prevent it spawning
What happens if you just log out
Game saves and quits to desktop



