Some mods have like 10 required mods to run them
#archived-modded-support
fair vessel
naive drum
SVE is huge and complicated and is one of those mods with like 10 required mods
olive sequoia
at SVE
dire fractal
SVE requires ALOT of framework mods n to run lol that's probably why
olive sequoia
it sooo good tho
dire fractal
That's why it has a whole tutorial/guide for installing it
olive sequoia
GOD I FOLLOWED THE WHOLE THING TO A T AND IT STILL DIDNT WORK
i had to stop using steam to run it and just run it as admin
naive drum
click the orange Download
olive sequoia
no thats fine it doesnt know you already have that
visual heron
Yes I have smapi
fair vessel
It's fine, you already have it. It's just a reminder, not telling you you don't have it
dire fractal
Yeah so just download kt
naive drum
that popup doesn't stop anything
it's just a reminder "hey make sure you have this installed here's a link if you don't"
fair vessel
(another aspect where Nexusmods UI could be improved)
naive drum
yeah
fair vessel
(don't make reminder messages look like error messages 🤦)
visual heron
Ok do I do the same with this too? Put it in the stardew valley mod folder
naive drum
yeah
olive sequoia
yrs indeed
naive drum
pretty much all mods are installed like that! just unzip and plop in the mods folder
dire fractal
If they aren't they'll be listed on the descriptions otherwise no one will be able to run them lol
naive drum
yeah
fair vessel
^ The only ones that don't work that way will either
A) have special instructions on the mod page for how to install, or
B) be XNB mods and you do not wanna try using those especially on mobile, trust me.
naive drum
anything other than "unzip, put in mods folder" is given special install instructions
dire fractal
Installing/updating mods are easy it just take time to do them
visual heron
So the mod maker have 2 extra mods. If I put those in what will happen
fair vessel
Yay! It was a struggle, but now you have useful knowledge for if you wanna add more mods in future 
dire fractal
They'll probably work if they don't edit the same things
visual heron
They edit the same things.
dire fractal
Probably break
visual heron
Ok I am not risking it.
Now I have a Normal version is stardew and one modded version.
fair vessel
The same mod author as the portrait mod? Yeah I only see one mod by them, and all the other files for it are XNBs, they won't work
dire fractal
Yeah that's so you can play normal unmodded Stardew if u want
visual heron
They now share the same saved file?
dire fractal
I don't think so
fair vessel
You can open the save files using modded Stardew or unmodded stardew
dire fractal
Otherwise won't loading a modded save file in vanilla break the save?
fair vessel
Modding changes your game files, and the save files are stored in a different place
visual heron
Can I create a backup of that save file
fair vessel
Completely depends on the mod.
Mods that only replace textures (like sprites, portraits, tilesheets) will never touch save data and are completely fine to use on a save and them stop using
dire fractal
Yeah I know JA mods will break a save if you don't remove all their items in that save before removing the mod
fair vessel
A lot of mods that change game mechanics are the same (no effect on save) but not all.
dire fractal
But I never play unmodded so I won't find out ever lol
visual heron
Can I make a copy of my current save file and play it somewhere else?
fair vessel
You can copy and transfer save files between PC and mobile no problem
If you want to duplicate a save file to have two versions of it on the same device, the process is much more involved
visual heron
fair vessel
You can make a backup though and store it somewhere else on your computer without fuss
visual heron
Which one is my game save file
fair vessel
All of them
visual heron
Wait what do u mean.
visual heron
I only have 1
robust bison
oh eait
fair vessel
(but technically, Sherry_222538062 and SaveGameInfo ones, inside a Sherry_222538062 folder, are all the game requires to load)
fair vessel
If you want to back up a save, copy the whole folder
robust bison
Name_12345679 is your actual data, savegameinfo is the stuff that the save menu displays
naive drum
the ones labelled with _old are the previous save (one day behind), the game does that automatically in case something goes horribly wrong
fair vessel
Running the game with Smapi also creates up to 10 IRL days of automatic save backups, by the way
visual heron
I am putting that in my Google drive.
This will be fun.
If I want to transfer save files I just dump the whole file in my PC's game save file?
olive sequoia
basically. All you need to put into your computers save game file is the SAVEGAMEINFO nad SAVEGAMEINFO_OLD then SHERRY_####### and SHERRY_#######_old
the other two are specific for the android
robust bison
steam has that I think
visual heron
I can lay on my bed and play, then go to my PC and resume. No need for file transfer
naive drum
earlier today we had to help someone debug a bizarre issue they had and in the end pathoschild tracked down its recurrance to steam cloud save haha
(they had somehow gotten some xnb files and their save in a folder named New Folder in their save files folder)
(and due to cloud save whenever they fixed it steam 'helpfully' put the xnbs back in there)
ashen elbow
yeah
naive drum
spoiler it was not helpful
sullen rune
so recently I found leah duplicating her sprite. walking outside her cottage.
robust bison
?
sullen rune
this happened only after I dated her
olive sequoia
?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
olive sequoia
well first off it looks like you need to update a few things but that might not be causing the issue
ashen elbow
can you send a screenshot of what the weird duplicate leah looks like?
robust bison
^
olive sequoia
xD i would hepl more but my internet cant handle the sheer vastness of this log
sullen rune
can you send a screenshot of what the weird duplicate leah looks like?
@ashen elbow shadow clone jutsu
xD i would hepl more but my internet cant handle the sheer vastness of this log
@olive sequoia i thought it only me, opening this log real causing lag on my system, guess ive installed too much.
robust bison
is that leah an actual npc that looks like leah or a clone
either way that's weird
!patchsummary
native dragonBOT
Can you do these steps to provide more info?
- Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
- Type
patch summarydirectly into the SMAPI window and press enter. - Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
- Post the log link here.
sullen rune
is that leah an actual npc that looks like leah or a clone
@robust bison i believe that the actual leah. dont remember instaling a clone mod of her.
robust bison
so both are the real her
sullen rune
im also confused but yes thats both her
I can even talk to both of them.
they run on the same schedule but differ by a few seconds
robust bison
that's wack
sullen rune
then merged again to one when stop walking
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)
sullen rune
😦
late nebula
.choose install more mods, go to sleep
devout pumiceBOT
go to sleep
late nebula
Lol
inland pasture
Was there ever a unified PPJA mod that just adds all of 'em or is getting them one by one still da way?
inland pasture
Thanks! 
storm viper
I was wondering how to transfer my mobile save onto my pc game, I know how to do it on vanilla stardew valley, but I have SMAPI installed on my pc and my phone version.
Do I just replace the most recent folder inside one of the zips in Stardew Valley > save-backups or what?
robust bison
!saves
native dragonBOT
Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
storm viper
ohh thanks
I did change the saves in the appdata folder a while back but I'd forgotten thats where they were
outer turret
Thanks to changing mine JA files around and ading a new one, I now have anemone schnapps, instead of my black diamond apple ones. Luckily they hold the value!
sharp belfry
lol, I just had a similar thing happen, I installed fresh meat and all 20+ of my fruit trees changed into diff ones
outer turret
oops due to a compatibility patch in Juliet's file (to place her in a different part of the Yoba shrine if either Paul or Amelia were present), I hadn't changed her Joja shift in teh evening. So post Community Center completion she'd go to her new location: abvoe the fountain, and stand there in her Joja uniform playing on her phone...
midnight pine
for some reason all modded dishes disappeared from the cooking station
I tried uninstalling new mods i downloaded and still nothing, the only other thing i did is update SMAPI
does anyone have any idea what could have caused this?
the recipes still show up in the collections tab they just don't show up in the cooking station
mystic elm
ugh, i have weird bubbly music playing in my new game but my older games are fine lol.
mystic elm
also. Does anyone know how to just...remove a specific bush from a specific save file? For some reason, this bush spawned and it isnt possible to access Marlon's house.
midnight pine
mystic elm
thanks! that is helpful.
royal arrow
Also that's in the install guide for SVE https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Troubleshooting#a-bush-is-blocking-the-adventurers-guild
mystic elm
oh! sorry, I had no idea. thank you.
midnight pine
i would greatly appreciate if someone could help my issue cause I don't want to have to abandon the save file
royal arrow
I'm not sure what is causing your issue DJNotNice, but sharing your log will help people troubleshoot
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
midnight pine
stray star
Does anyone have any idea what might be causing me to automatically level mining to 10 as soon as I hit 7 with about 25% experience is this a known issue from a specific mod I'll have log for everyone in a second
Log actually isn't saying anything, but here it is. I think it happened the first time when I mined a rock from More Gems but after when I tried to relevel with CJB it still jumped me to 10 when leveling from 7 to 8, wouldn't be a problem but I am not getting the stuff for leveling up, i.e. the crystallarium recipe and stuff
spice mirage
@wind elm or anyone else who might know....
I've got pelican tts installed as well as gmcm. . . but i don't know how to get to the menu to mess around with pelican tts. where would I find it?
stray star
If it's in gmcm it should be on the title screen a gear should show up right above the menu
spice mirage
oh great, thank you
ancient socket
Hi! I used the dark shrine of selfishness to get rid of one of the babies and now I want to get rid of the other one, how long should I wait?
ashen elbow
more of a #stardew-spoilers question but, you dont have to wait. just get rid of them both at the same time
midnight pine
alright I tried making a new save file and the recipes also don't show up
ancient socket
Thanks! I didn't know I should ask the question there, the problem is that I could only get rid of one, and the other one is still there
Perhaps because I'm using a mod?
gray thorn
Hello there
I just launched the game and noticed that none of the recipes added by the PPJA mods appear in the kitchen. I just had the vanilla ones...
I have no error logs in SMAPI (and i have updated it), and i tried to test uninstalling mods i installed today but there was no changes ; so i'm a bit confused 🤔
royal arrow
That could be related to DJNotNice's issue o:
midnight pine
that's the same issue I have, the only thing i did is update SMAPI
gray thorn
Forsythia > yes, but even the ones i owned 🤔
DJNotNice > Oh, glad i'm not the only one ! Do you think that related to the SMAPI update?
stray star
Lenne do you have any insight on my issue?
midnight pine
Well that seems to be the only possible reason, now i regret updating it
stray star
Did you try downloading an older version?
ashen elbow
aaah fuck i have to go update tons of mods
royal arrow
I don't, Wing :c have you had issues with leveling before? I vaguely remember someone else was leveling up a ton, seemingly randomly, but idr why
midnight pine
went back to SMAPI 3.6.2 and the recipes are back
seems the new update broke recipes
stray star
I usually wait for .x.2 before updating smapi
rigid hatch
seems the new update broke recipes
I'll wait then
gray thorn
went back to SMAPI 3.6.2 and the recipes are back
Yes, same here
royal arrow
DJNotNice and Mehina, please leave that as a comment on the SMAPI page so the mod author, Pathoschild, is aware and can fix it 
that's good news though, that you now know what caused it!
gray thorn
Yep, on my way ! 
midnight pine
yeah, already left one
royal arrow
@stray star the only thing I can think of is try temporarily removing Level Extender to see if that stops the extra leveling, but that's a wild guess
stray star
I'll have to try tonight
royal arrow
I found the other person's issue btw, and we suspected it was Sleepless in Stardew causing it, which you don't have
dire fractal
https://gist.github.com/purringChaos/2cc1fba78fc65ffa869e559c00e567c8
seems like pytk is causing stardew valley to crash when it patches stuff
dunno if its caused by my mono version or anything
grim totem
Hiya guys. Does anyone know if smapi for android has been updated?
dire fractal
@wind elm know what's happening?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
will do
royal arrow
It formats it nicer and makes it easier to read
dire fractal
sharp belfry
I've been trying to find the mod I installed that scrambled all my item ids and messed up my fruit trees for like 4 hours, all to no avail 
royal arrow
Jani, I think it was probably just whatever the most recent JA mod you installed, idk that there's rhyme or reason to it o.o
PurringChaos, is that log from after loading the save and getting the crash?
sharp belfry
well yeah I thought that too but I disabled that and the problem is still there 
dire fractal
it doesnt even get to the menu
sharp belfry
so I'm just going thru download history now
dire fractal
gets to the menu fine without pytk and its dependees
royal arrow
Ah, gotcha. Welp, I'm stumped, hopefully someone will be able to assist xD
dire fractal
i can the wait
royal arrow
Jani, did you save after the item ID kerfuffle, to use Forsythia's phrase?
sharp belfry
nope
royal arrow
If so, I don't think you can undo the kerfuffle without rolling back the save o.o
Oh nvm
sharp belfry
I load in, see that my cacti in pots are suddenly NOT cacti...
tepid blade
For some reason everytime i want to use smapi I have yo delete the save data for the file from the mods data folders in order to play.
ashen elbow
XD you know what's funny? i named a mod "hope this doesn't break" and guess what? it broke
keen moss
The IDs are set when you either load the game or the save. I can't remember.
ashen elbow
yeah i fucked up my manifest,, this is what i get for trying to convert an xnb mod to Get glam
royal arrow
Ahh, so Jani would have to roll back the save and the JA stuff? SMAPI might have a backup up of that in Stardew Valley > save-backups 
dire fractal
dunno if running stardew valley on arm64 linux is helping anything,,,
keen moss
Rolling back the save won't do anything since it doesn't generate them on game save. Otherwise how would they appear in the game before it saves. You'll have to do the good ole classic of removing any of the messed up items and readding them using CJB
dire fractal
dont have any x86 computers in the house and dont have anything capable of running android nor do have money to re-buy it for android
sharp belfry
well I guess I'll just live with the different trees
timid holly
im new to modding in sdv, im trying to figure out how i can mod on a coop server with me and my friends. can anyone tell me how or help me?
sharp belfry
!mpmods
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F for details on how mods work in multiplayer. :)
timid holly
btw not using any mods that is changing the game, just UI mods for now
royal arrow
I was more thinking of the JA-related files in the save folder, but yea Jani, you could get the seeds for the trees via CJB Item Spawner, plant them, and grow them with CJB Cheats Menu
keen moss
Are those in the save backup as well?
sharp belfry
I know I can, I've done it before... just didn't want to xD
keen moss
Thought it was just "Player_123456"
royal arrow
That's why I mentioned they might be in there, I'm not sure and I'm not at my computer to check myself o:
timid holly
thanks alot @sharp belfry ❤️
sharp belfry
I'm taking a break from this, can't even look at the puffer chick for now >.>
royal arrow
@timid holly It's not a mod, but the mod manager ModDrop allows you to share mod packs so people are able to download the same mods you have.
You could also use the mod Mod Command, available on nexus, to export your mod list. It includes links to the mods as well, so people could download them by going to those links
ashen elbow
me playing with mods while in class 🆒
timid holly
thanks alot @royal arrow
fair vessel
To add to that, there isn't a way to make all mods apply to everyone without everyone downloading the mods, because Stardew doesn't have servers. It's all peer to peer connections and everyone is running their own copy of the game, so they need to run the same mods with each copy for them to work the same.
timid holly
aah, i understand
deep totem
I think diff some mod (esp recolor mod) should be okay for multiplayer,
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F
restive zodiac
(Wabbajack has a Stardew list now too, but it's basically just a small SVE install, and unfortunately all their lists still involve a manager (MO2) which is overkill to me for a game that can install mods by dropping folders into a folder. It does do all the downloading and setting up of it for you, though.)
coarse bear
I'm using elle's seasonal buildings mod. I've set the palette to "starblue" and theme to "color", but it shows up as "vanilla" and "white" I think. I saw on nexusmods that people had the same problem, but didn't see a solution. Anyone able to help?
native dragonBOT
Can you do these steps to provide more info?
- Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
- Type
patch summarydirectly into the SMAPI window and press enter. - Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
- Post the log link here.
fair vessel
@coarse bear that looks correct for Starblue + Color + Blue.
fair vessel
It's certainly not vanilla, and the colors on the buildings only show up with higher upgrades
Cabin (Starblue, Color, New)
Farmhouse (Starblue, Color, Greenhouse, Blue)
ashen elbow
yeah
coarse bear
the roofs are red, so that's why I assumed it was the vanilla. But ok, I didn't know it doesn't change until I upgrade
Thanks
deep totem
ah, that's it then
coarse bear
sorry for disturbing, and thanks for the help
dire fractal
done some debugging and cant find the issue, ugh
late ermine
not directly related to mods but I have some debris spawned out of bounds in IFR2, is there an easily accessible noclip equivalent in sdv?
ashen elbow
the noclip mod
restive zodiac
!rtf wolfrayet#3791 if you switched maps midsave
native dragonBOT
@late ermine Reset Terrain Features (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4715) is a mod that allows you to reset, clear, or generate everything that spawns on a map via an in-game menu. This is especially useful when changing maps mid-save, as the debris will still use the old layout (causing things like trees in the water or bushes blocking exits) until reset.
late ermine
wasn't a map switch, this is a fresh save
safe spade
not directly related to mods but I have some debris spawned out of bounds in IFR2, is there an easily accessible noclip equivalent in sdv?
@late ermine there is a noclip mod that you could install
cursive wharf
Hi so I got 2 questions! First one, I just now had a strange crash. I exited my save to Title due to wishing to replay the current day, and upon pressing to load my save again, SDV crashed and I briefly saw my SMAPI spit out errors. I have here the link to the Error Log.
https://smapi.io/log/398908fb928e4fb4b21440f74d52ca5a
My second question is a bit more diffuse. I've had 3-4 playthroughs now, and I -believe- the Culprit may be SVE, but for some strange reason, Leah refuses to come out of her cottage on Tuesdays. This causes me grief as I want to dance at her, but I must speak to her -every day- for that to happen... And during Spring at least, on Tuesdays, she will not come out. (I quite literally camped her house for 3 tuesdays in a row, 6am to 12am, and she would not exit) Does anyone know of this, or do I have a conflict?
junior laurel
how to move the xnb file
outer turret
Tamardia if you aren't opposed to a little bit of cheating, you can type "debug wtc Leah" in your smapi console. And it'll warp you right to her.
cursive wharf
Eh, I'm pretty against cheating unless absolutely necessary. Was more hoping to have it resolved if it's a bug or conflict somewhere... But if I hit 'way late' tonight again and she still won't come out, yeah I will
shy orbit
she definitely should be moving with SVE
outer turret
yeh, can understand the frustrations!
supple echo
If you've been talking to her that much, I would also suggest checking if you've hit two hearts yet because you might just be able to go inside 🙂
shy orbit
9:30 she should be moving out of the house
cursive wharf
I most certainly have not hit 2 hearts, it's Day 2 of Spring on this playthrough x)
supple echo
Ah gotcha 😄
outer turret
and you don't seem to have any other mods that could cause conflict... hmmm
shy orbit
@cursive wharf you could type patch export characters/schedules/leah to the smapi window if she doesn't move, that creates an exported schedule file in game/patch export folder
and share that here if you don't want to diagnose it yourself
cursive wharf
Well. IDK if it's just because I told someone, or if it's because of a new playthrough, but today she decided to come and stand outside to sculpt! If she won't come out again next week, I'll be back!
spice mirage
hmmm.... i've got something installed that for some reason randomly stops the screen from scrolling
maybe. . . it looks like longevity is conflicting with something?
spice mirage
man, i love that it sdv just works with a controller out of the box
balmy oak
are ellies new coop and barn animals just sprite changes or does it do more?
I want to play as a farmhand with my friend who doesnt use mods
ashen elbow
sprites
balmy oak
nice
thanks
I just installed ellies new barn and coop animals but I put both the skin files on the desktop and they merged, is that supposed to happen
ashen elbow
wait what
shy orbit
i guess it was the adopt'n'skin / more animals versions that merged? it shouldn't matter
pulsar geyser
for anyone who is using sve
royal arrow
I should probably start up my save for it soon, new areas to explore and such 
pulsar geyser
9k gold just of off that
ashen elbow
lol
rare quest
Ooh. You must be late game.
royal arrow
I just have such a struggle with starting a new save from 0 ._.
I gave myself 100k to start off (in addition to the existing 500) and got Part of the Community, but I definitely think Part of the Community is uh, too stronk lol
rare quest
(if there's sweet gem berries spawning)
deep totem
I really want explore SVE, but haven't play in a while 😂
royal arrow
Also 100k was not enough, mostly because I am hoarding the flowers for Farmer to Florist bouquets >~>
I just have to find a way to speed up the painful early game without rushing it too much on my modded saves
Does anyone else starting a new save have that problem though? I noticed it even in vanilla before introducing mods, the early game is very slow, I am broke for a lot of the time, and then after a certain point in the midgame, I am making oodles of cash but don't have stuff to spend it on anymore 
safe spade
About longvitel im also using it and it just works fine for me
ashen elbow
HOW
royal arrow
I figure Klara Chaos doesn't have mods that conflict with longevity
ashen elbow
whew
royal arrow
It technically still works lol
torn mason
longevity
safe spade
Im using 615 active mods sooooo theres that
only problem i have is my tv not having the right texure XD
deep totem
Can say by year 2 my farmer likely have purchased quite a lot of stuff, despite me usually spend time chopping wood and foraging... Though it does feel a lot happen by the mid-game (I hate to encounter like 3 events in one day). Then it slow down to significantly in late game (my farthest is just like winter Y2 tho).
Is there a mod to limit number of event that can be seen in one day?
royal arrow
.quote 4960 has the Longevity alternatives, by the by
3 events in 1 day, itsbenter? Try in a row (jk it's usually maybe 2 in a row, but more later that day)
deep totem
yeah... in a row is def something else
royal arrow
I don't think there's a mod that allows you to limit the number of events in a day, I'd imagine that'd be challenging, because you'd basically have to say "meet these conditions but also not if X number of events played today", which sounds like it would be tough to do
deep totem
Hmm, I imagine it would be like adding a counterwhen any event id is added to eventseen. Then make it somehow a condition in checking for event to trigger. Definitely C# thing... I'll post in github in case someone be interested :3
Maybe I'll check nexus and modrop first
visual heron
which one is my game save file?
royal arrow
Good call! And yea C# would definitely be easier than trying to rewrite all event conditions in CP 
!saves
native dragonBOT
Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
royal arrow
@ Sherry ⬆️
tepid blade
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
visual heron
my windows R dont work
tepid blade
So yall see nothing wrong im tired of my game crashing
lapis void
sherry, you can also get to it by going to your windows search bar and putting in the same thing
visual heron
which one should i put in the save file
robust bison
all of them
royal arrow
Sherry, what are you trying to do with your saves o: ?
robust bison
@tepid blade your game is crashing?
visual heron
its my save on my phone. i want to play the save on my pc
royal arrow
Ahhh ok gotcha
tepid blade
Arcane yes it got farther but in the middle of playing it just crashed
royal arrow
Enderdragon, apologies if this has already come up, but did you have a lot of programs open? Did you take a look at memory / CPU usage in the task manager? I think someone's asked about your RAM before and you had a decent amount, so that shouldn't be an issue 
tepid blade
It started after I changed the monster spawn limit for FTM and ive deleted all the mods and reinstalled them and yet it still crashes
royal arrow
Ah, before you changed the spawn limit, you just had lag, right?
junior laurel
as i play smapi on the steam without interfering with the achievements, open the steam for him to open smapi together with the steam
royal arrow
If you had any issues with the game files, that would have shown up in your log, so doing a reset of the game files is likely not going to do much, more just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
Does the crash happen on new and existing saves alike?
tepid blade
Yea on any save file it crashed
junior laurel
and that if i do it wrong the smapi can crash my game achievements
how can steam recognize the smapi, when it starts with steam the game does it open the smapi too?
tawny kindle
@tepid blade Could you try posting a log of the crash after enabling SMAPI's verbose logging? that will make FTM (and certain other mods) log more details
(I'm not sure about differences between OSes, but there should be a smapi-internal/config.json file with VerboseLogging as the first setting)
tepid blade
Uhhhh where do i find Verbose Logging
royal arrow
Kaique, the getting started guide has instructions on how to set up SMAPI, per OS / platform, including how to set up the Steam launch options
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
ashen elbow
hm, does anyone have reccomendations for cute mods? im looking to add more to my game Xd
royal arrow
I could throw my whole mod list at you, I have a section on aesthetics / visual appearance o.o
robust bison
studio ghibli scarecrows
ashen elbow
Yes please @royal arrow
tawny kindle
(one sec enderdragon, I'll check my android version to find the file )
humble fox
how can steam recognize the smapi, when it starts with steam the game does it open the smapi too?
@junior laurel you want to open smapi through steam?
royal arrow
deep totem
Flying pollen?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6149
ashen elbow
ooh
humble fox
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\StardewModdingAPI.exe" %command% in the set launch area of steam
tawny kindle
@tepid blade It looks the same on PC and Android for me, so: StardewValley/smapi-internal/config.json
junior laurel
@junior laurel you want to open smapi through steam?
@humble fox yes, why not, the game does not recognize as achievements that I make
humble fox
ok
just follow the instructions i sent
ashen elbow
owo my mod was on the modlist
humble fox
you should be able to open smpai form steam afterwards
ashen elbow
smpai
humble fox
shh
royal arrow
Which one, Forsythia o: ?
tepid blade
Uhh what app do I use cause my json reader wont let me access it
ashen elbow
antique dolls
humble fox
@ashen elbow what mods have you made?
royal arrow
FORSYTHIA, YOU ARE CHEESE WINE IN DISGUISE O:
tawny kindle
personally I just plug my Android into the PC via USB so I can copy/paste the file, but maybe there's a default app for it...
ashen elbow
yes i am XD
tawny kindle
yeah, I don't think my android has a text editor at all? you might need to download one, or copy it somewhere like me
tepid blade
Mine says it wont open it as I shouldnt mess with iy
tawny kindle
oh, I figured out a (silly) way to edit it, I think
if you can, rename it to something like config.txt and then view it
that made it show me an edit button in the lower right
tepid blade
Should the T in true be capital or lowercase
tawny kindle
lowercase, though SMAPI might fix it anyway
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
royal arrow
what mods have you made?
@humble fox these are Forsythia's mods, btw https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/users/84002498?tab=user+files
humble fox
thank you!
humble fox
hell yeah
tawny kindle
@tepid blade FTM didn't get a chance to run at all there, aside from setting up its Harmony patches...here's the last bit before it closed without error:
spice mirage
mr. gingers + pelican tts is pretty amusing.
tepid blade
Hmm well it crashed while loading
tawny kindle
I don't really know what the issue is, but it might be running out of memory & not reporting it to SMAPI, or maybe a bug with SMAPI itself?
tepid blade
So idk
tawny kindle
can you run it successfully without any mods added?
tawny kindle
so it worked that time?
subtle canopy
This is weird.
tawny kindle
yeah, I'd have to say it's either a "phone not strong enough" issue or possibly something with the SMAPI port
FTM successfully spawned about 35 monsters and a few hundred objects that time, and got through its whole loop
tepid blade
How do I check to see if its smapi itself
subtle canopy
I have the meats mod installed, I just updated it today, and the recipes are missing. Only the meat-based ones.
And its still saying I should update it in my log.
tawny kindle
there's not really a good solution if it's some rare SMAPI bug, just keep it updated I guess
lapis void
@subtle canopy there's an issue with JA recipes in the newest SMAPI, it's being looked into
tawny kindle
I'd recommend using fewer mods to minimize issues, e.g. playing without SVE
subtle canopy
ah, okay.
tepid blade
Also its worked before so i think my phone can handle it
subtle canopy
that's a relief, well not really, but i was worried i did something wrong on my end.
tawny kindle
you could also try force closing other apps or something, but I don't know much specific stuff about mobile optimizations
(e.g. if you have stuff like Youtube minimized, it might help to close it)
lapis void
yeah, the JA author is gonna look into it when he's around Luna, until then reverting to an older SMAPI would fix it
subtle canopy
hmm, that might be it. since i updated smapi
well, i don't need to stress over it.
he'll get around to it when he does
i'm not in a hurry to make the recipes
royal arrow
reverting to an older SMAPI is harmless though o:
lapis void
yup, not your fault, dw about it! maybe we should have a quote for this situation since people are gonna keep coming in with the recipe issue pff
royal arrow
the latest update has only been out for a few days, and the older versions are available on nexus
corrin, you're up! :D (to make the quote lol)
lapis void
on it :P
subtle canopy
haha
lapis void
Json Assets has a bug with the latest version of SMAPI that causes JA recipes to not show up in the kitchen. spacechase0 is aware and is looking into a fix with Pathos. In the meantime, if you're missing custom recipes, the easiest fix is to revert to SMAPI 3.6.2 temporarily. You can find old versions on the Nexus page!
there you go lenne :P
my cat is yelling at me to play so it took me a WHILE to write a paragraph lmao
subtle canopy
maybe you should pin that
royal arrow
maybe list the previous version of SMAPI as 3.6.2, to be extra specific
corrin's intent is to make it a quote. only junimos have the power to pin things, and we're only cheetos
lapis void
fixed!
devout pumiceBOT
New quote added by LenneDalben as #5056
lapis void
kitty was telling me she did a good job in the litterbox lol
ashen elbow
lol
deep totem
how to add quote?
royal arrow
hear ye, hear ye, .quote 5056 is for explaining the "missing recipes with latest version of SMAPI" issue that several have encountered, and providing the temporary fix
lapis void
o7
royal arrow
you can do it manually via commands (try out .help quote in the #governors-mansion for details), but also use the speech balloon emote
lapis void
yeah, 💬
dire fractal
I haven't updated JA yet so I should just stick with my old version for now?
Oh nvm
Smapi*
royal arrow
if you are on version 3.6.2 of SMAPI, hang out there for now
dire fractal
Okay!
fair vessel
[still on smapi 3.6.1, should probably update to 3.6.2 ]
broken frost
if you are on version 3.6.2 of SMAPI, hang out there for now
@royal arrow
...And I see this after I've already updated to 3.7.1 -_-
royal arrow
I mean, it's easy to revert... and no need to ping with your unhappy face o: I practically live here 
broken frost
Eh, quote automatically adds a ping
tepid blade
I think I know whats crashing my game
Im pretty sure its lag its lags so bad sometimes that the game cant handle it
But i only have expanded, and the mods required for it and Skull Cavern elevator
dire fractal
Expanded is quite large on its own
tawny kindle
yep, I can't think of much to do about lag issues personally...closing optional background apps might help, and FTM's monster limit can be set to 0
monsters are technically a kind of NPC, and Android doesn't seem to optimize them well (e.g. some people report lag even though they're on different maps), but I'm not sure if that'll help much
I think SVE only spawns them in one "end-game" kinda location, though, so you won't miss them for a while
tepid blade
Will FTM work if i set it to 0
tawny kindle
I don't 100% remember, but my readme on github says that should work
dire fractal
Doesn't that mean no custom forage at all spawns
tawny kindle
it's supposed to just skip any spawns after a location has that many monsters in it
it's only about monsters
dire fractal
Ah ok
tepid blade
Well last time i changed FTM it started crashing the game and i think the monster are causing the major lag spikes
tawny kindle
it's possible they're a major lag source, it just seems pretty inconsistent between phones
Android's code is a pretty heavily modded version of the PC code
tepid blade
So should i set it to 0
tawny kindle
yeah, try that and see if you can load/move around better
I think SVE's monsters all respawn every day anyway, so you can turn them back on later if you need to
tepid blade
Also is there any type of mod that decreases lag or anything that can decrease lag
royal arrow
Uh oh, is he in JojaMart lost somewhere o: ?
tawny kindle
I don't know of any optimization mods yet, no
sharp belfry
Maybe it's in the saloon
tawny kindle
(I've been meaning to change some code for monsters but it's pretty complicated)
- android port differences etc
ashen elbow
nope, he's in the void of my house lol
spice mirage
are there any mods i should really have installed?
late nebula
All of them
royal arrow
I was waiting to see if there was a follow up
spice mirage
2 many 4 me
royal arrow
uhh, depends on what you need lol
you can share your log, it'll give us your mod list, and we can give suggestions on stuff if you want o:
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
royal arrow
hi Name, looks like there was an issue with how you uploaded your log (it has a little message at the top), could you try that again o: ?
ashen elbow
hjonk
spice mirage
god i hate trying to navigate in mac's finder
strange river
Haha I feel the same anytime I open file explorer on Windows :P
royal arrow
you have such a little log! 
(spoken as someone with 405+ mods lol)
I see you primarily have dialog mods, with a few gameplay mechanics mods. Is there any in particular that you're like "meh, could do without this"?
I know Change Shoe Color is already sort of covered by the tailoring mechanic (you can take a shoe whose look you like, and add to it the stats of another shoe, provided you have both)
spice mirage
it was a needed mod for swim
royal arrow
doesn't look like you have the Swimming mod installed o: did you remove it o.o?
spice mirage
hmmmm.... that seems to be true
royal arrow
also Town Gossip is incompatible with Life Cycle for Marnie and Lewis, as far as I know o:
fair vessel
Here's a small list of quality of life mods that I would recommend to anyone - they all make only minor changes to the game, but improve gameplay around small annoyances:
Better Artisan Good Icons
Combat Controls - Fixed Mouse Click
Fast Animations
Hold To Break Geodes
Show Cooking Recipes
Better Sort
Don't Eat That
Pony Weight Loss Program
Better Hay
Non-Destructive NPCs
Fish Preview
Show Item Quality
spice mirage
i'm using a controller, so mouse click things isn't needed.
royal arrow
Jonqora, Name is looking to remove mods, not add mods, but good call!
spice mirage
no, i'm looking to add mods
fair vessel
Oh oops lol
spice mirage
:p
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
royal arrow
I could also send you my mod list, it's much longer than Pathos' list, but it's got a table of contents to make it easier to navigate!
fair vessel
Combat Controls may also improve things for controllers, but it depends how it's coded. Basically what it does is allow you to change your facing direction in the middle of swinging a weapon
I'm not sure if that's already possible with controller or not
deep totem
Jonqora,, those are all fine mods for qol
royal arrow
yea my QoL list includes most of those 
(and then some)
spice mirage
sure lemme see
royal arrow
late nebula
I should make a mod list one day.
fair vessel
I have my mod list as a very messy private GitHub repo that I wanna make public someday
spice mirage
oh crop beasts looks fun
royal arrow
yea it's a fun time 😄
spice mirage
the ppja stuff. . . does that add content, or just replace?
royal arrow
!ppja
native dragonBOT
Project Populate Json Assets (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1935) is a collection of content packs for Json Assets that add new crops, flowers, trees, and recipes. (Also see https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/ for a collection of references for PPJA and associated packs.)
royal arrow
key there is "adds new X", doesn't replace
visual heron
guys, is there a mod that can freeze tiem?
royal arrow
I think there is something called Time Freeze or Freeze Time on nexus
visual heron
theres one that freeze time indoors but i want one to freeze time so i can get to level 100 in skull cave
royal arrow
ah, I know freezing time is a feature of CJB Cheats Menu, maybe that would work for you?
royal arrow
CJB Cheats Menu? It should. You can use Virtual Keyboard for the hotkey business, I think
(I'm on Windows but I've seen that mentioned for android)
royal arrow
I don't think there's any mods that would break your phone, but, you do you
compact elbow
you cant mod iphones i dont think
royal arrow
Iñaki, CJB Cheats Menu lets you change the weather for the next day o.o
You can mod the game on Android
royal arrow
Lol it's all good
fair vessel
CJB Cheats works fine on phone
and VirtualKeyboard is a mod that comes preloaded with smapi for Android
royal arrow
Oooooh snazzy
royal arrow
Lol gotcha. By the by, you can edit messages too it's a feature I use often, because typos
visual heron
if i put the CJB cheat in the mods folder it should work right?
when i start the game it mod was not found
anyone can help?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
visual heron
thanks i think its working
naive drum
was it loading in the log and you just weren't noticing it because you were looking in the wrong part of the log?
shrewd gate
Weird question. Did SVE change a dependency? It made me download a couple icon packs, which is absolutely not a big deal, but things look different now and I feel like I would have preferred to start this way and not be confused when I see a sweet pea. Like I’d 100 percent download it again any time, but was I the only one? Maybe I just deleted something at some point?
royal arrow
I'm not seeing required icon packs listed on the mod page, where did you see that you needed ones? And also, which were they?
supple echo
Icon packs?
shrewd gate
My smapi, it said it couldn’t load something related to SVE until I downloaded better artisan goods and better crops and foraging, both packs that just changed the icon
But maybe it was something else I have loaded that just had SVE in the title somewhere
royal arrow
yea those should be totally optional for SVE
maybe it was another mod that requires them?
naive drum
you probably downloaded an sve BAGI pack
shrewd gate
I definitely did, but not since the last time I played
supple echo
!log Maybe we could poke through your mods list?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
shrewd gate
Yup, the error is gone. Wait let me delete those mods and I’ll get the error back
royal arrow
also, to clarify, "better artisan good icons" or BAGI, is different from "better artisan goods"
shrewd gate
Yup. I had BAGI from a while ago, this specifically wanted better artisan good
royal arrow
that is so interesting o: I can imagine a scenario in which a mod added Better Artisan Goods (and Better Crops and Foraging) as a dependency, to make sure it loaded after those mods, but I've not come across a mod that actually required Better Artisan Goods and Better Crops and Foraging
naive drum
maybe they meant BAGI and hecked up and accidentally made the mod require just...BAG
royal arrow
the unique ID would be pretty different though, wouldn't it? they're not by the same mod author 😆
shrewd gate
Yeah dude, it was totally weird and out of nowhere. It does actually look better, I like it, I just don’t know where it came from. Getting the error log now
royal arrow
yea I use all 3 (and others) lol
royal arrow
Did this come bundled with SVE, or did you download it from somewhere? Better Crops and Artisan Goods in SVE
supple echo
yeah, that looks like your culprit
shrewd gate
Huh. It’s separate. Imma look it up, I don’t know where I got it
Ohhhhh yeah that was totally all me. It lets the icons work with SVE. I don’t know why I would download that without the actual icons 🤣 but I totally did. What a silly
royal arrow
lol it's all good, it might have been an autopilot "ooh it's for SVE, gets" moment
shrewd gate
That sounds like exactly what I did lol!
The mod is even literally to integrate the other 2 into SVE, I must have been half asleep or something
steel lava
Hmmm I have a problem for my game, so if I first open my game and load the save it will have no problem, but if I try to quit to main menu then load a save again the game will crash after loading.
Here is my latest log.
naive drum
Quit to title does weird things
royal arrow
before looking at your log, I can say there's weird quirks with--ya that lol
steel lava
Hmmm so it's...normal?
naive drum
That's not even stardew exclusive there's at least one minevrwfy modpack that quits to desktop if you exit to title load back in and look any recipe up at all
Its 'normal' as in known error that's just..
It breaks things. Maybe one day pathos will find out how to make it not break things.
tired apex
minevrwfy
Perfect
steel lava
Ahhh ok, I understand now, thanks
naive drum
Mobile
tired apex
It is now that from now on
royal arrow
You could drop your log with that description of your issue on the SMAPI mod page, just because we were recently gently nudged to notify Pathos of odd SMAPI bugs rather than being like "it is known 
", just in case it is not known
(there was a bit of a hooplah because of a pretty significant bug everybody knew about except for the 2 people who could fix it )
naive drum
When was that?
fair vessel
map tile rotations failing after return to title
static mist
https://smapi.io/log/349a2b6529ff4f0cb2c388876d519061 need assistance figuring out why stuff broke
fair vessel
So that one's fixed now at least
royal arrow
which is fixed in SMAPI 3.7.0 and higher 
Pathos and Routine were able to fix it in less than a day after they knew
deep totem
It almost like it takes no time for them to fix 
tepid blade
My brother used his laptop amd fixed my smapi turns out it was FTM that was corrupted
daring skiff
hey i need some help! my group of friends is playing modded stardew and she's having an issue where wherever she hovers, she autoplaces fences and isn't in control of it at all
she tried repairing her game and whatnot but it still won't fix itself
tepid blade
So whoever is the creator of FTM when I changed the monster spawn limit not only did the mod corrupt itself but it corrupted every mod I have. My brother had to delete all of my mods and put the ones from his phone to mine.
ashen elbow
FUCK now my computer thinks smapi is a virus
deep totem
Rather strange.... might want to check this in android @tawny kindle
tawny kindle
I honestly really doubt FTM did that, it's much more likely to be an error caused by the phone or file app, unless there's some more information about what happened
wanton sinew
you can get around it by going into the virus and threat protection in windows settings, allowing the file, and trying the DL again @ashen elbow
if you are on windows that is :/
tawny kindle
(I could see FTM's dll being corrupted on download/transfer or something, but then it wouldn't run at all, and it was doing its job)
restive zodiac
(We asked for logs without other stuff installed and never got them, so it's hard to guess.)
tired apex
Rip egg mom
atomic bear
Hey, guys.... I just downloaded SMAPI 3.7.2 and got a Trojan alert
ashen elbow
yeah
just do what was sent above
you can get around it by going into the virus and threat protection in windows settings, allowing the file, and trying the DL again @ashen elbow
atomic bear
I'm a chicken. I'll just use 3.7.1 until this newest update looks good to Windows. 
wanton sinew
it certainly seemed like just a normal smapi update, but i guess thats what a trojan is meant to be like hahahaha
keen moss
It's perfectly fine, Windows is just angry. Keep in mind custom recipes are broken in 3.7.1 if you use any. 3.7.2 solves the issue.
ashen elbow
and.,. what the fuck XD
royal arrow
Forsythia, why is your home now in the void? 
ashen elbow
i have no idea
royal arrow
Wait it's not just your home, the HUD / UI of the clock is also gone 
!log you know the drill ☺️
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
tepid blade
Also had anyone tried out the legendary movies mod for stardew
royal arrow
I was actually going to 
soon, it was more for anybody out there (echo) who could help lol
Wait
Did you exit to title and then load?
atomic bear
What is the Mod Compatibility folder? I have six folders within it, and SMAPI says it is empty, so will ignore it.
ashen elbow
i have no idea what happened there.
royal arrow
I think you can delete those TripleB1979
Might have been that a mod packaged their stuff in a unique way
ashen elbow
actually i think it was me having the game open in background and it did some funky
atomic bear
Okay, thanks LenneDalben 🙂
royal arrow
Forsythia, maybe s: nothing stands out in your log to me so I can't say "AHA got it"
ashen elbow
yeah lol
tawny kindle
looks like industrial kitchen/furniture is the only other thing editing the farmhouse sprite, so yeah, more likely just weird loading
latent badger
Hey guys, I usually don't have any problem fixing modding issues I run into on my own, but I've really messed up my game now I think. I was attempting to update Giant Crop Ring and Pytk that goes with it, and now I cannot join my wife's server anymore. I had us remove Giant Crop ring mod from both folders with no luck. Here's my smapli log https://smapi.io/log/83c481218ba045f1a1b0eef1951f5384
lapis void
try updating all the rest of your mods and SMAPI first, you're a few versions behind. i would guess the issue in this log is that you're wearing the giant crop ring, but you removed the mod, so SMAPI is not happy about that. can you try putting it back and updating everything and get a new log? @latent badger
latent badger
I actually had my wife delete the rings (they were not equipped onto my farmer) and play through a day and save. We then removed the mod from both our folders and I was still not able to join. I figured that would fix the issue.
I would love to update the rest of my mods but I think there are a few that have changed so dramatically that when updated break our game.
lapis void
that shouldn't be the case, except for things like JA mods where they might have added new items so your IDs might scramble a bit
try updating the rest of them and see what happens, it's always the best idea to have all of your mods up to date. occasionally you'll get false update alerts or updates that are just an added translation or whatnot, but often updates fix major bugs
latent badger
ok I will try that and see. thanks corrin
lapis void
that error looks like it's still looking for the ring oddly enough but you did the right thing when trying to remove it
it's talking about a display name too, do you have any honey from JA flowers maybe? honey sometimes flips its shit at random intervals
latent badger
yeah, and I was sure that would solve the issue too
lapis void
maybe have your wife check your inventory and chests for any honey items and chuck those
you'd be surprised how many multiplayer issues have been solved with that particular fix lol
lapis void
no, like actual honey from bee houses
lapis void
sometimes the game will do this fun thing in multiplayer where it will create honey from something that is very much not a flower, like hemp (which was what happened to me once, the mod has it as a vegetable). then when a farmhand picks up that item and leaves the game and tries to rejoin, SMAPI throws a fit because it knows you shouldn't have hemp honey because hemp is not a flower, but you do in fact have it
this can also happen with honey in a chest, even an automate chest pulling it from beehouses
honey and roe are the usual culprits when it starts yelling about display names bc they're the things in vanilla that take an input for their display name. so the item itself is honey/roe, and then the code checks what it's made from to say what kind of honey/roe it is
latent badger
That is really odd. I'll have her try that.
Do all honey related items need to be tossed? like mead as well?
lapis void
wine's another possible one too though i've never seen it happen
mead maybe yeah, i don't think it takes an input in vanilla but i've seen oddness with it before and it's possible it stores info about the honey?
usually the host will be able to see immediately that they've got honey that shouldn't exist, either because the display name is wacky or because they're physically inable to open a certain chest
shell jackal
Hi there. I'm having a problem with some mod that's basically combining my greenhouse with another greenhouse. Like, the original layout of the normal greenhouse shifted up and to the left into the void. My gf comes into greenhouse and gets stuck. I'm not sure what to do.
lapis void
!log @shell jackal
native dragonBOT
@shell jackal Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
lapis void
a screenshot would also be super helpful!
lapis void
a screenshot of what the greenhouse looks like in this channel would be great!
we mostly need that log though to be able to help you
lapis void
first, do you and your gf have the exact same mods? i'm guessing the two that edit your greenhouse are immersive farm 2 remastered and possibly 5 floors cellar
shell jackal
yes, we have the same mods. the 5 floor cellar is for the house cellar. here is the screenshot.
lapis void
you're also missing producer framework mod, which you need to make the soda maker mod work
shell jackal
oh, shoot
lapis void
i figured the cellar mod was for the house, but a surprising amount of cellar mods also edit the greenhouse
the screenshot hasn't come through btw!
lapis void
that looks like you changed greenhouse mods in the middle of a save, or added a greenhouse mod
all the plants were placed in what looks like it was maybe the vanilla greenhouse, but what you're seeing is not the vanilla greenhouse
who planted those, you or gf? when?
shell jackal
I planted them a while ago. i tried to put in spacious greenhouse. It told me that it would work with IF2, so quit and deleted spacious greenhouse.
This seems to be the result.
lapis void
and you were using IF2 before?
shell jackal
yes
lapis void
i don't know what the IF2 greenhouse looks like so i don't know if that's it haha
shell jackal
it looks like the vanilla greenhouse
lapis void
i don't think it does... i think what you're seeing now may be IF2 and what you were seeing when you planted those things was vanilla
shell jackal
oh, okay. well, i wonder how i make it so only one shows up.
dim bobcat
any updates to the better crab pots mod?
lapis void
you have already, you can only have one greenhouse mod at a time
most likely what happened before is that you were unknowingly using two mods that edit the greenhouse before, which caused SMAPI to show you the vanilla one instead of either. now you've removed one but your plants will stay planted where they were initially because the game doesn't automatically move them to fit the greenhouse you have
you can save the plants by getting Noclip Mode and Crop Transplant, getting a garden pot, and noclipping out of bounds to pick them all up with the pot and move them to a normal spot
@dim bobcat not that i know of, we've got Epic busy working on stuff for an upcoming mod rn so he probably hasn't gotten to it yet, but I know he's planning to refactor it at some point
from my understanding he'd rather do a full overhaul of the code when he has time since he wrote it a while ago
dim bobcat
Ahh, thanks. I was thinking of trying to figure out amod for fishing nets, but I saw better crab pots mod and decided thats close enough but then it doesnt work... so was just wondering
lapis void
i think it works mostly but gets weird with custom locations and custom fish
if you want to use the code as a reference though, the author has a github and it's open source afaik
dim bobcat
do you know the git link?
lapis void
yeah, one sec
it may not be his most recent version, some of the stuff on his github is out of date
dim bobcat
Thanks! Ill check it out
atomic bear
Hello 🙂 I like trying out new farm layouts and am choosing which mods to use for each of the farm layouts (standard, hilltop, etc). If I choose the monster layout (I can't think what it's called), will it still have the monsters? I'm assuming yes. If so, can I turn them off, somehow?
lapis void
wilderness? yeah, it will still have them. there's a late game way to toggle those on and off and i believe you could save edit that flag too?
it would break your immersion TM, but you could use debug commands to warp to the ||witch's hut which i believe is just WitchHut and offer a strange bun to the statue on... the right i think? and that should turn off monster spawns||
rigid hatch
SMAPI is in 3.7.2 should I update now?
lapis void
yes, it fixes the JA recipes bug
atomic bear
Yes, wilderness. I'm sorry to ask, but what do you mean by immersion TM?
rigid hatch
(I'm always nervous about these things haha)
lapis void
the ingame way to do it that i put under a spoiler is something that you're only supposed to be able to unlock once you've finished the CC and another questline
but you could use debug commands or a cheat mod to get there before you're supposed to, spawn the item you need, and turn it off on day one
atomic bear
I'll pass on the spoiler, but appreciate your help. I've not tried the wilderness map, because I'd rather play in a relaxed manner, but maybe I'll put on my big girl panties and try. 😄
rigid hatch
Windows 10 detected a Trojan from the SMAPI installation
lapis void
that happens with new builds
tawny kindle
that's an issue with new exes sometimes, people have been running into it with this version
rigid hatch
Ok phew
I thought I did something wrong
I'm so sorry to bother you all!
I just get really nervous 😓
tawny kindle
it's a good idea to be safe, but SMAPI's watched pretty carefully
lapis void
if you want more than four maps but don't want to use wilderness, you can do this
!modgroups
native dragonBOT
See this link for how to load different mod groups: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F.
rigid hatch
thank you guys I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do to answer questions
lapis void
essentially you'd copy your mods over to another folder, create a shortcut to run SMAPI through that folder instead of your regular mods folder, and use the new one to replace more maps
atomic bear
Thanks! I'll read up on that! 😄
lapis void
you could also just use two mods that replace standard and put a dot in front of the folder for the one you don't want to use
so if you were using Immersive Farm 2 Fix and also Ultimate Farm on the standard map, it would look like this for the save where you play on Ultimate Farm
.Immersive Farm 2 Fix Ultimate Farm
atomic bear
I need to keep a record of what save is on which map because I have a tendency to start a new save and forget which mod I'm using.
lapis void
and you'd change that each time you went into the save
yeah that's why mod groups might be easier to keep track of haha
atomic bear
That makes sense
rigid hatch
Should I uninstall SMAPI before installing the new one?
atomic bear
Thanks so much, Corrin. I appreciate the help.
rigid hatch
I'm sorry for so many questions I really don't want to mess up my save 😓
atomic bear
Jack, I do uninstall it before installing an update. I don't know if we have to, or should, but I do. 🙂
rigid hatch
It doesn't mess up your save does it?
atomic bear
Nope
tawny kindle
SMAPI's designed to be able to install over itself, but it shouldn't really cause issues either way (aside from maybe resetting SMAPI's config files if you edited them)
long trout
I tried using SMAPI but the mods weren't loading so I gave up x)
rigid hatch
sighs in relief It worked
Thank you all for your patience with me
I'm just a really anxious person when it comes to my games
lapis void
!log @long trout
native dragonBOT
@long trout Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
lapis void
if that file doesn't exist rainbow, you may need to try installing SMAPI again, and/or show a screenshot of what your folders look like
either SMAPI itself or some of your mods are probably not installed correctly
no problem jack! it's totally fair to worry about messing stuff up haha, but pathos is always very careful to make sure SMAPI updates are safe and not going to break your game
narrow wigeon
lmao i'm trying automate for the first time but like the dumbass i am i kept a chest next to the shipping bin
atomic bear
Another question.... If I have a save with a farm layout mod set (using the config) to replace the Forest Farm (for instance) and change that configuration to replace the Hilltop, instead, will that work? Does that question make sense? LOL It's getting late.
lapis void
if the mod has something in the content.json that allows for that, then yes. if it doesn't, you'll have to edit it manually
you should be able to check the first few lines of the content.json and see what the allowed values are in the ConfigSchema field
atomic bear
I have found that in the content.json file, but I guess I'm asking if it will mess up an existing save?
lapis void
so if you're using a map mod called MyFarmMap, and you have a save on that map that replaces the forest farm and change that to replace hilltop, your save will no longer use MyFarmMap. it'll use the forest map, or whatever other map you have replacing forest
but a save on hilltop farm will now use MyFarmMap
atomic bear
Ohhhh... I got it, now. Thanks again! Sorry for the silly questions.
lapis void
you can change your farm type with some fairly easy save editing if you want to as well
no problem, it's confusing! especially when you're sleepy lol
atomic bear
Lol... I think it's time to go to bed. 🙂
dire fractal
Hello
robust bison
hi
cursive wharf
So, just tossing it out here. I got prompted to update to Smapi 3.7.2 this morning-... However Windows called out to me (Likely false positive?) that the smapi.io direct download contains a trojan?
As stated, I'm assuming it's false positive, just want to lob it out here
ashen elbow
it's safe
cursive wharf
Figured. Just gotta figure a way to explain it to Windows lmao
OH. Windows is reacting because there's an exe in the Zip-folder lmao.
balmy oak
how do you create a shortcut to your steam.exe file
pastel arch
It'll do that for every update while the update is new/not many people have downloaded
balmy oak
help
cursive wharf
Ah, ty
ashen elbow
Frantically adds CRC mods
i just found out that they existed
inland pasture
I've been using nexus for all my mod browsing, does moddrop have its own unique and respectable stock of mods?
outer turret
whats CRC? There's a few migrated to ModDrop that have been pulled from Nexus
inland pasture
This is random but I love the stardew esque pfp @outer turret
outer turret
oh she's one of my chars. Juliet!
not yet released (but soon). One day I'll make one of myself
(or possibly a lemur)
inland pasture
outer turret
and thank you
robust bison
all I know is that right now Minerva had moved all her mods exclusively to moddrop
tulip steeple
So either I'm just an idiot, or I'm just... not able to cook meat from the Fresh Meat mod?? I'm positive that you're able to, because in the cooking menu, there's a silhouette of Cooked Duck, but I'm just... not able to actually make it?? Is there something I'm missing, or agian, am I just an idiot?
inland pasture
oh so that's where Eemie's Wildflowers went...
Interesting, thanks for the headsup @robust bison
Yeah Unique Jealousy Responses too (I'm not a weirdo I just want them all to be my friends) (wait I am a weirdo)
shy orbit
@tulip steeple when it's just a silhouette it probably means that you don't have the recipe yet
tulip steeple
Okay then yeah, in that case I'm just an idiot and I haven't gotten the recipe yet
I guess I like
Just thought that I had already gotten it???
shy orbit
there has been some problems with the newest smapi update and recipes though, but i think with that they didn't show up at all
or maybe that was already fixed with version 3.7.2 too
dire fractal
I'm pretty sure missing JA recipes was why update 3.7.2 came out
outer turret
new computer coming this weekend, so maybe I'll be able to easily increase my mods.
run SVE without removing all teh custom NPCs
are there any mods (ASide from Karmylla's maps) known to be incompatible with SVE?
shy orbit
https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Troubleshooting#incompatible-mods aside from these, ran's harvest goddess is incompatible i'm pretty sure
tulip steeple
Okay yeah, I'm just an idiot, I haven't gotten the recipes for cooked meats yet
outer turret
the only ones I use from there are remainagined and that'll be disabled for any SVE playing
inland pasture
Using Content Patcher, is it generally true that mods that ADD new events won't override or delete events from other mods?
Awkward wording, but I've got four ish mods already that add Penny events, and I kinda want to get Unlikely Friendships too but I'm worried I will start to have events that collide and consume each other.
I figure as long as all these mods ADD events, and not CHANGE events, I should be getting ALL of them, and yet I fear losing out on content
outer turret
they'll be fine as long as they all have unique IDs. The content may contradict but they should all trigger
the only way you'd have issues would be if two mods edited the same vanilla event or if two used the same unique ID (unlikely since most event IDs for mods are 8 numbers long)
tulip steeple
So like... something that I think happened with Fresh Meat is like... you originally were able to cook the meats in your basic crafting menu, but I guess now you have to get the recipes for them from... somewhere
dire fractal
It would make sense cause how else are you cooking it? Firebending?
dire fractal
I think Gus would probably be a reasonable place for them?
inland pasture
Thought I'd ask on the off chance someone has the wonder cure.
I love Sabrina ( https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4350 ), the genderbent sebastian, but really only want Sabrina, not the others.
The sprites and the portraits work fine, but dialogue is still male, and this mod: ( https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/464/? ) has proven fatal to my game, mostly, I believe, since it's not Content Patcher.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/467/?tab=description
This is an alternate mod, but it also doesn't seem to be content patcher, or have an option for just Sabrina.
Basically looking for a CP version of "Sebastian_Girl Dialogue changes" or advice on how to stop it from crashing my game when I try and save my game after going to bed.
royal arrow
Offhand I'm guessing it might be an XNB mod? You could check if it's converted here
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods
inland pasture
Doesn't look like it, only one there is the original portrait & sprite pack.
thanks anyway 
analog verge
@inland pasture you only want the 1 right??
inland pasture
Yeah just Sabrina (Sebastian).
analog verge
the dialouge changes are XNB, so it needs to be converted to CP... ill see what i can do
inland pasture
quiet night
does anyone still uses instant building mod?
hollow cypress
Is the SVE event / gifting guide still a thing?
analog verge
should be good... havent tested tho
rare quest
@hollow cypress I removed those guides. You can find information on gift tastes and events on the SVE wiki.
hollow cypress
oh ok, thanks
young mural
hey everyone, my friend and i are trying to run a multiplayer game on Immersive Farms 2 Remastered on SVE. I launched it in single player mode to buy a multiplayer cabin from robin, saved then relaunched on Co-op as a server, but then it crashes. here's the error log: https://smapi.io/log/54f96d33e8cd4b91a0400b45368539ba . If anyone can help it'd be really appreciated thank you ❤️
analog verge
@inland pasture fixed it, it is now booting up without error in console
young mural
okay thank you! do me and my friend both need to download it or should only the host?
young mural
oh lol my bad
coral depot
Hey guys, is there a way to play with the steam overlay and choose to play vanilla OR modded ? (without just putting the launch option in steam and removing it)
I figured I could make two shortcuts, a normal one and another with the launch options of smapi, but it just doesn't work
bronze merlin
anyone know all the spells in the magic mod or a link showing where they are
deep totem
Space: Simplest would to to have two diff mods folder and rename it as necessary.. One without the mods and the other with mods, exchanging them as necessary. Or if you want to go through more setup !modgroups
!modgroups
native dragonBOT
See this link for how to load different mod groups: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F.
coral depot
Yeah I figured that would be a way to do it, with like each shortcut loading a different mod folder, but it wouldn't work with steam
Oh well, too bad for the one click solution then
I already spent 2-3h searching for a way to implement the %command% in a steam shortcut but with no luck
deep totem
I usually just rename the mods folder and haven't use the mod group. Though I know some people do use it. likely someone else would be able to provide help,,
coral depot
I only found stuff like "-fullscreen -etcetc" to put in a shortcut, and I really don't know why the smapi launch options work only inside steam and not in a shortcut lol. What made me search for so long is that it seems so simple and I'm sure there is a way to make it work, it feels as it's just at my fingertips and it is f r u s t r a t i n g... Also when found it could benefit everyone!
But yeah in the meantime, mod folders it is
torn mason
I've used the modgroup method and added the shortcuts as non-steam games, so I have different steam launch options for different mod loadouts
so you could direct a modgroup to an empty mod folder and do that
coral depot
yeah I know! But then it's not tracking achievements cause it's not the same stardew... I'd really like to find a way to make it work seamlessly
torn mason
it does track achievements tho
the shortcut is added as non-steam but it connects to steam anyways?
coral depot
w
what did I really miss that
Dude if you're right then it's witchcraft 😄 that's awesome
torn mason
I think steam just detects it or something XD but it shows as me playing stardew when I launch through the shortcut and it lets me join MP through steam friends and all
coral depot
So you mean adding an smapi shortcut with launch options as a non steam games still tracks progress in stardew ?
That is insane ahahah I've been trying to make it work for so long and it just... works?
I'm going to try thank you so much lmao
torn mason
I just double checked and yup, when it first launches steam will say you're playing a non-steam game SMAPI, but once SMAPI launches stardew it'll show up as you being in-game in stardew
coral depot
damn
that's wild
So it tracks everything just as if you were playing vanilla stardew
torn mason
yup, time played, achievement progress and all
deep totem
yay!!
coral depot
We need a :pufferPOG: emote for this one guys
it was so simple I'm amazed and mad and baffled ahahah. I just added smapi as a non steam game and removed the launch options from the vanilla, thank you so, so much guys
robust bison
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
robust bison
do you have multiple portrait mods?
fair vessel
@spice mirage do you have SVE or Befriend Marlon and Gunther mod?
They replace the original Marlon NPC with a new one that has a different internal name and portrait/sprites.
spice mirage
oooo ok
fair vessel
You can see if someone's already made a patch for SVE Anthro
spice mirage
just deletes the befriend mod it's fine
ty for pointing that out
perfect, exactly the results i wanted
i don't think these health bars are working. . .
bronze merlin
! log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
torpid idol
does anyone know what all the red is about? https://smapi.io/log/a7c5d608ecf64553ae6fd5145ade8ef9
heavy sky
for those interested in learning the layout of where apples go and where not to place your stuff in SVE, here's a possibly helpful screenshot. i'm working on placing crystal paths where apples and possibly wizard/morgan go. ofc, this is not totally accurate because i needed to make paths for myself to actually get through, but it could be a decent guideline
whoops
where do i find my stardew total area screenshots? 
tried to find on google but couldn't figure it out
crude seal
i think its a mod
heavy sky
no i think it's in vanilla SDV
crude seal
idk than
heavy sky
windows
every link i've clicked on when i searched on google has been unhelpful so far sadly
nevermind, found it i think
tired apex
Hebfrchrbf good
heavy sky
i'll continue to update this at some point in the future for those interested
as i expand
if i forget feel free to highlight or message me lmao
ashen elbow
is tat in the sve forest
crude seal
My game crashes whenever i try to create a new save https://smapi.io/log/99d0c3fd63cb43a4b00915850785f020
im just tryna get sdv exanded to work
heavy sky
@ashen elbow yes
rare quest
@heavy sky Whoa. That must've taken quite some time.
heavy sky
lil bit. i also completely filled out the desert with tree and bee farms more or less
it's definitely a time consuming process, but very profitable
over time
but that's essentially useless, so i didn't bother uploading a picture
normal shadow
hey! i want the mod that makes u run faster
i already have smapi
how do i go about this
tall wagon
So About 3 hours of configs and getting mods, I've successfully added 102 mods
101 of these mods work with stardew valley expanded
how do i go about this
@normal shadow
Get cjb cheats menu
im just tryna get sdv exanded to work
@crude seal
Do you have all of the mods needed? And btw if your doing this on android, SDV Expanded dosnt work yet on android, unless I'm wrong, cause I used to do android mods a looong time ago and it never worked
crude seal
im on windows and yes, i have all the required mods
crude seal
i can make a character, but after i click next it freezes and goes unresponsiv
tall wagon
Um what's your ram?
crude seal
I have 16gb of dd4
tall wagon
Well, when it closes the game, is the mod terminal still up?
crude seal
lemme check
tall wagon
Ok
broken frost
Is it safe to update SMAPI now?
tall wagon
Was it not safe before?
broken frost
There was a bug with 3.7.1 where mods with recipes didn't work or something to that effect
crude seal
when it closes, the mod terminal goes with it too
tall wagon
Hmm
That's weird
Idk much about smapi lol
I know alot about mods tho
Can you list the mods your using
crude seal
sure
tall wagon
And there update versions
crude seal
I have Content PAtcher 1.17.2/ Farm Type Mager v1.11.0/ Immersive Farm 2 Remastered/ JsonAssets 1.6.2/ Pytk/ Spacecore 1.4.5/ TXML Map Toolkit/ Winter grass/ and Stardew Valley Expanded
tall wagon
Alright I got no idea lmao 😂
crude seal
ya
broken frost
Hrm, I guess the people who know if I can update aren't here today :\