ya'll, we might need to start a group. I was at like 93 mods this morning and might hit 100 before I end today o.o
#archived-modded-support
boreal cradle
shrewd gate
I was at 200 2 days ago and now have over 300! One of us, one of us
boreal cradle
Oh gosh xD
royal arrow
oh the lotsa-mods group? You are a novice, and are welcome 
I'm personally at 391 mods now, Jani has almost 1000 LOL
royal arrow
yup
fair vessel
busy making more mods for Jani to add
ashen elbow
lol jani the mod gremlin
boreal cradle
literally don't know how I could go back to unmodded with Automate
zenith temple
only 1 is useful, that is BetterJunimos
boreal cradle
I was snickering seeing the talk about a Crab Pot empire xD
Dude BetterJunimos is bomb
dire fractal
@zenith temple I made a quick n dirty 4 corner farm with SVE mod installed and this is what it looks like, if you're still interested:
boreal cradle
I love four corners lol
restive zodiac
Sve doesn't do anything to 4 corners
fair vessel
SVE only changes the farm if you install the IF2R file (and use standard layout)
deep totem
SVE doesn't change the map
restive zodiac
It has an optional map that... That.
dire fractal
Oh woop, my bad. I've never really done 4 corners before.
restive zodiac
(The mod page is pretty detailed about what it does)
It's an interesting map 
It's kind of nice to have a dedicated area to banish farmhand to :D
dire fractal
I've always had a soft spot for foraging myself, just 'cause it was my first farm
royal arrow
Oh there's a little baby quarry there o: ?
I use Farm Extended and I think that'll be my main map for a while 
restive zodiac
Yeah, I like the forest vibe
boreal cradle
Yeah, it eventually fills with iridium once you hit skull cave
royal arrow
Farm Extended has the best of all the vanilla maps rolled into 1, plus some extras 
restive zodiac
Of course any map I use ends up having forest vibe somewhere 😅
boreal cradle
which is supes useful
restive zodiac
Yeah each corner is dedicated to one of the dedicated farm type functions, so top left is foraging, bottom left is fishing. No monsters though :D
(Okay three of the corners, whatever :P)
dire fractal
On another note, and I'm asking for a friend this time, has anyone had any issue with the config.JSON file not being generated when running Stardew Valley with Minakie's Real Life Horse Mod?
royal arrow
The other corner is the farmhouse, right? Cooking function HUHU~
fair vessel
top right is dedicated to farming ofc
@dire fractal I checked out the mod page, it looks like the download actually includes a config.json file... which mod creators ought not to do 🤔
You're not seeing one?
zenith temple
Yeah each corner is dedicated to one of the dedicated farm type functions, so top left is foraging, bottom left is fishing. No monsters though :D
bottom right mining and top right farming maybe ?
shrewd gate
So is this group more Farm Extended over Immersive Farm 2 Remastered? Just curious, I need to download a farm mod, mine is so tiny
royal arrow
Idk about the group, but I'm definitely pro Farm Extended, and haven't used IFR2. Note that to use IFR2, you definitely need to install SVE, if you don't have it already
boreal cradle
I wouldn't mind trying Immersvice myself, I haven't used it yet either, only just vanilla
shrewd gate
I definitely have SVE, Sophia is my new crunch. But the immersive would make me have to redo all my croppage
dire fractal
@dire fractal I checked out the mod page, it looks like the download actually includes a config.json file... which mod creators ought not to do 🤔
@fair vessel
Hm, you're right. Don't know how I missed that. I'll ask them to try again. I had them copy and paste the error that showed up on their Terminal as well, but I won't post it for now, since she's a little thick.
devout pumiceBOT
[#4974] "Switching to a custom farm map can be done, but you'll need to do extra steps in order to make sure you don't have buildings / items in the void, or not properly lined up.
You'll need to grab Reset Terrain Features and Noclip Mode to set you up.
Then, before you install the new map, you'll need to remove all machines / chests / etc. on your map, you can store them in a chest, preferably inside your farmhouse or barns /coops / sheds.
Then, go to Robin and move any buildings you have as close to the farmhouse as possible.
Then add the new map mod (ensure it replaces the farm type you're using, i.e. Standard, Riverland, Hilltop, or Wilderness), and you'll spend some time moving everything to a proper place.
You can use Reset Terrain Features to reset the bushes, trees, and other debris.
Noclip mode will help you reach any things that ended up in the void or an invalid tile." - LenneDalben (04 Aug 2020 @ 08:26:10 PM UTC)
royal arrow
and I'll have to update the quote to mention that you can use Crop Transplant Mod to move crops and trees 
shrewd gate
Nice! Thanks! I don't know if this was to me but I needed it!
royal arrow
lol yus it was to you 
note Crop Transplant Mod is highly configurable, so you could set it to let you move full-grown trees huhu
shrewd gate
Niiice, because I would hate to lose my precious trees, I worked so hard to make sure I had all of them
boreal cradle
there's so much stuff in Artisan valley, it's kind of nuts. o.o Props to the PPJA team (well, everyone who's made mods really tbh)
rare quest
If you're going to play for 5+ years, I recommend IF2R. 😉
(you will always have something to do/work toward)
boreal cradle
Hi Flash! I'm absolutely loving SVE ❤️
rare quest
Hey! And thanks!
gentle glen
Nvm
obtuse solstice
Trying to join someone and it says "(version mismatch)" but we're both on steam and our SMAPI is up to date, and Stardew itself is up to date. so like whats the problem?
robust bison
it's a mod problem
royal arrow
Do you have the same mods?
robust bison
cross platform pc works
fresh mural
wait wha
obtuse solstice
is laptop and pc the same thing
obtuse solstice
oh
robust bison
basically a computer
royal arrow
Yes, though for some people PC = Windows, even though in this case Arcane meant PC = computer
tired apex
Pc = Linux 
fresh mural
yea ig
tired apex
Yea make sure you both have the same mods + versions
fresh mural
mk
royal arrow
And one neato way for you to check that is for all players to get their log~ https://smapi.io/log
The site has instructions and formats it nice and readable
robust bison
just make sure you have the exact same mods and that they are multiplayer compatible
devout pumiceBOT
[#5031] "If you're looking to learn more about how to read your error log, there's an annotated one here 
https://m.imgur.com/SRfOvKB" - LenneDalben (30 Aug 2020 @ 11:43:35 PM UTC)
late nebula
Ferngill
royal arrow
Climates of Ferngill is the one I use, highly configurable
gray remnant
Ooh
royal arrow
I have not heard of weather machine o.o
gray remnant
Did you try both?
Ohhh
Ahahaha i'm checking them both out but ferngill seems to have more weather options (plus fog)
But on the other hand sdvwm has lunar disturbances?
royal arrow
Lunar disturbances works with Climates of Ferngill, they actually have fun features together
robust bison
so does climates or ferngill
gray remnant
Ooh really
tired apex
I'd double check mods.smapi.io, I looked through it earlier today and saw a few were broken/severely outdated
gray remnant
Interesting
tired apex
I think weather machine was on there?
royal arrow
Ya both lunar disturbances and climates of ferngill are by the same author
gray remnant
Does adding them in the middle of a saved game mess it up
royal arrow
Climates? No o:
royal arrow
Most mods are fine to install mid game, unless otherwise specified, and even then, it's usually just stuff you have to tweak, nothing game breaking
gray remnant
Thank you!
proper summit
Well time to play which mod changed my game language to Hungarian
fair vessel
🤣
Likely answer: none of them, you had Stardew open in a background tab while doing something else and accidentally changed it yourself
ashen elbow
lol
fair vessel
(clicks still register even if Stardew is behind other windows)
(careful, you can easily delete entire savefiles this way)
ashen elbow
thanks clint
fair vessel
is it just dialogue, or is it everything?
(if only random dialogue, then yeah it might indeed be a mod with a whoopsie in language-specific patches)
...yeah, that's vanilla game Hungarian dialogue. Just checked.
This is on you.
pastel arch
Somedays I just hogy van egy extra, other days I just hogy van egy
proper summit
Yeah I must have hit it in the background
shrewd gate
Hours later, I’ve downloaded IF2R! Annnnnd the interior of my greenhouse is screwed up, do custom greenhouse interiors work with SVE? If so I want to use it, I liked it, but if not I have a ton of new farm space 
I just wanted to know before I go back and take everything out of my old greenhouse interior so it doesn’t screw up!
ashen elbow
there's a FAQ that answers ur questiong i think
shrewd gate
Oh duh, should have checked first! Thanks!
fair vessel
Yup, you can use custom greenhouse interior/exterior, they just need to be installed in a special way.
(and if you ever did need to change stuff from a screwed up layout, NoClip mod is your best friend)
shrewd gate
Do you have a link to how to install it correctly? I hate to ask, but I can’t find it myself, I think I’m overlooking it
And no worries if not, I’m sure I can find it somewhere on my own!
Oops, found it!
shrewd gate
Alright, screwed everything up a couple times because of who I am as a person, but done! Thanks so much guys!! And thanks Flash for the great instructions, that guide is awesome!
fresh mural
ty
unreal moat
I can not pick up the ink in the witch's hut. When I looked at quests I noticed that I don't have the ink quest even though I've seen the wizard cutscene, got the talisman, and got passed the goblin. To be honest I have no idea if I had the talisman or goblin quests either as I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, I updated my mods that needed updated. I hadn't updated in a few weeks and had like 9. Ofc, QAP and LadderLocator are showing they need updated, but those 2 always show that no matter how many times I update them. I'm seeing nothing in my log, but I'm not very good with this at all. Log is here: https://smapi.io/log/2252e0bc4be94a9c9476786a74718534 I'm thinking I need to find someone to can save edit that quest so that I have it. Am I correct? If so, do I have any volunteers?😂
fair vessel
I gotcha! 1 sec
ashen elbow
!saves
native dragonBOT
Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
fair vessel
Type debug quest 27 into your smapi console
unreal moat
ok let me open up
fair vessel
That should add it to your quest log
Wait. actually
That quest gets completed/removed from your log as soon as you get rid of the goblin.
unreal moat
[Console Commands] Sent debug command to the game, but there was no output.
ashen elbow
that's normal
fair vessel
So you probably already did have it, and being unable to pick up the ink is a separate problem from the quest log.
fresh mural
wait u can put casks outside with automate right?
unreal moat
ok so what do I need to do. I want access to the wizard magical book lol
fair vessel
Lemme see what the game does to let you pick up the ink.
unreal moat
there is a quest where you have to return the ink to the wizard. I would think it would be that but🤷♀️
unreal moat
casksanywhere mod to do that
fair vessel
@unreal moat there are quests that talk about it, but there isn't actually one that gets removed from your log when you talk to him. It all finishes beforehand.
Question: you've checked your wallet and the ink is not there?
I'm looking at the bit of code that does it
unreal moat
no ink in my wallet. i didn't even know it went there lol
fair vessel
- first it adds a mail flag to your save file saying you've picked up the ink
- next it activates it in your wallet
- third it changes the map to not show the ink on the table
- fourth it shows you picking up the ink
So I am guessing something went wrong and it did the first thing but then borked and failed on the last 3
Let's see if my theory holds up (and if yes, this is how to fix)
open your save file and do a search for this exact text
<string>hasPickedUpMagicInk</string>
unreal moat
ummm how do I open my save file?
fair vessel
(follow the instructions to find it, then make a backup copy of the folder for that save somewhere else on your computer, just in case something gets screwed up when editing)
unreal moat
ok
fair vessel
If you open your PlayerName_436278468 file and find that bit I mentioned, great! Delete exactly that text. Then save the file. Should fix it, I hope.
If you don't find it....... then I have no idea what the issue is. Might be a mod interfering badly with mouse input or something 👀
fresh mural
hm
i put cask anywhere mod in my mod file
but it smh didnt work when i tested last time
lemme try again
fair vessel
If you have Automate, you don't need Casks Anywhere
fair vessel
(well you do if you're loading them by hand, but Automate will accept them from chests all on its own)
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
fresh mural
k one sec lemme test again
unreal moat
not there, dang it!
dire fractal
How do I find adventurers guild on expanded?
fair vessel
(you tried left-clicking and right-clicking on the ink, yeah? Though I don't know if it matters 🤔)
late nebula
@dire fractal It's in town near the beach
ashen elbow
guild is in town
dire fractal
Where @late nebula
ashen elbow
where the sewer used to be
fresh mural
i tried linking both bee house and chest together but it just skipped all cask and went to chest instead
ashen elbow
that's not how bee houses work,,?
fair vessel
Allright @fresh mural log looks fine, next step. Can you go to where your machines/chests are set up and press U to show the automate overlay, then take a screenshot and share with us?
fresh mural
on it
unreal moat
I use a controller. let me try the mouse. I can't remember if I tried it or not. log is here https://smapi.io/log/2252e0bc4be94a9c9476786a74718534
fair vessel
Oh yeah uh - honey from beehouses can't go in casks
fresh mural
ashen elbow
you have to turn it into mead first
fair vessel
You have to put the honey in a keg first to make mead
fair vessel
Hmm. I wonder if the problem could be some mod that is handling input weirdly and not accounting for controllers in all situations 🤔
Ooof. Yeah without looking up the source code for each mod individually, there's no good way to guess which one might be responsible. 
If mouse click doesn't work, you'd need to trial-and-error disable groups of mods to narrow it down and find the culprit
(at which point we could investigate further and maybe suggest a fix to the author)
unreal moat
I got it to work this time!!🎉 Not sure why, but I'm gonna go with it. Thanks so much!!
fair vessel
haha, hooray!
gentle glen
can someone help with something
ashen elbow
!ask
native dragonBOT
Feel free to ask your question or describe your issue here, and someone will help if they can :)
late nebula
shrewd gate
I finally figured out why the bus wasn’t working. It wasn’t the mods, it was the controller. I have to use the mouse to select garden village and to buy things from the villagers. I’m so glad I figured it out, it was killing me!
ashen elbow
yeah controllers dont like custom interface
shy orbit
@shrewd gate for the shops what works for me is opening inventory and closing it in front of the shop, then i can interact with them with a controller
dire fractal
I wish there was a way to mass update mods 😦
ashen elbow
cough cough update ur fucking mods arcane
robust bison
I don't have a laptop to have mods on
olive sequoia
Hey everyone! Having some trouble with SVE. Any one down to help me out
robust bison
sure
olive sequoia
yayyyy
Basically the mod was being weird earlier and freezing on the load screen with the whole SMAPI not responding thing. I got it to work eventually after I verified the game files and some other junk, but then when I stopped to do some HW i went back and it DIDNT work again. I tried doing everything I did earlier again but to no avail. I was told that it could just be a waiting thing but I have had the game waiting in the background for A WHILE and it still isnt working. heres a link to my SMAPI log https://smapi.io/log/f5744c8854fd4820a2c6c3d34a091588
olive sequoia
Its pretty powerful. I wasnt having any trouble earlier
I think i even exited and reloaded at one point too and it was fine. Im only one day 7 too xD
Like I can play ESO on High and Skyrim on Ultra with no lag lol
unique sinew
note that when as a background program stardew does not load or continue operations, as i understand it (or maybe i set it up that way so long ago i forgot, one of the 2)
olive sequoia
i think youre right as when i click away while playing it does freezeframe. I did leave the game to load for quite a while though with it fullscreen and everything
it always stops on Json assets loading early and will progress to json assests fixing ids after a bit but then it just stops and stares at me like krobus
unique sinew
i dont see anything in the log that appeared obvious to me, but im also pretty bad at reading logs 
olive sequoia
i feel it i cant read it at all. You tried though and thats what counts so thanks 🙂 i have a post on their subreddit as well as the forum on nexus so maybe that will help. anyone else here is welcome to try as well
unique sinew
most of the errors i encounter in my mods that i need to debug are .json parsing errors or property parsing errors, basically typoes.
olive sequoia
oh ok i see. i remember way back when the original emersive farm was released I had to do a bit of that.
im not so great lol
floral valve
Hi there, um, I haven't played with mods in a long time and I need some help. I installed smapi and put my mods in the right folder but i cant seem to get the mods to work
is there a step that I'm forgetting?
dire fractal
Are you using mods that require other mods to function?
floral valve
i think one of them needs content patcher
and i have it in my folder
the mods i have are CJB Cheats, Content Patcher, DebugMode, FarmTypeManager and Rikuos Portaits
dire fractal
have you extracted the mods like so they are normal folders n not .zip or like .7zip/.rar?
restive zodiac
@floral valve If you're on Windows, make sure you're starting SMAPI by either running StardewModdingAPI.exe directly from the game folder, or configuring Steam to launch it. (There are instructions for that here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Windows#Option_A:_use_SMAPI.27s_installer in the Part 2: configure Steam section.)
jovial hatch
hi guys
fresh inlet
hi
ocean spire
what do you need help with thinkfast 🙂
nova carbon
Hey guys, do mods generally cause lag in the game?
robust bison
they can
it depends on the amount and type of mods
although lag usually won't tend to happen with small amounts of mods
except on mobile
sharp belfry
And on how strong your machine is
robust bison
how many mods do you have
scenic turret
Are you able to add SVE when you’re in the middle of a save already? And if so would it be a wise idea to add it when my friend and I are already on year 3?
robust bison
you can add mods to an existing save, although you may miss out on some content.
scenic turret
Yeah that’s why I’m asking
nova carbon
I origingally had 90+ mods and it was running smoothly, then recently it lagged, reduced it to 50 and it's still lagging the same way
robust bison
if you're going to do it in multiplayer, everyone needs the mod
sharp belfry
You can, there are instructions for that on their page
scenic turret
Yep! We already have 60+ mods
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
scenic turret
I was just wondering if it was wise to add if when we aren’t planning on making a new save, as like said there may be some content we will miss etc
visual thicket
is multiple spouses now working on mobile?
robust bison
for content it will mainly be like events and stuff
sharp belfry
Afaik sve doesn't have much year-locked content
scenic turret
Hmm alright would y’all recommend it?
restive zodiac
!sve has a link to an install guide that includes how to prepare an existing save
native dragonBOT
Stardew Valley Expanded (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3753) is a mod which adds a lot of new content and areas to the game. It has many dependencies, so be sure to follow the install guide which is on the github wiki along with FAQs and troubleshooting steps for common issues: https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki
scenic turret
I’m just taking a look at mods now, and I’ve had SVE before but never really properly played with it
sharp belfry
If you've completed the cc you'd miss all the Morris related content
scenic turret
Just trying to find a few so that my friend and I don’t run out of things to do
Yep we have completed the cc
sharp belfry
Then no morris events for you
scenic turret
Haha my friend and I aren’t huge fans of him anyway
But otherwise there shouldn’t be much that we have missed?
sharp belfry
Shouldn't be
scenic turret
Okay perfect, I’ll talk to my friend about possibly getting it then, thankyou! 😄
shy orbit
@nova carbon of what you have, i would suspect content patcher animations, SVE's FTM component (spawns a lot of monsters, can be adjusted in the FTM config), and i guess wind effects
sharp belfry
Generally it's not about the amount of mods but a specific few that are v resource draining
robust bison
seasonal villager outfits might also be a culprit
scenic turret
Seasonal villager outfits can be very laggy, my friend and I the first time we had it, we had extreme lag so we had to remove it, but we have it again now and it’s completely fine
shy orbit
the config file is in the farm type manager mod folder (so not the SVE's FTM content pack folder), config.json and it can be edited with any text editor
wouldn't SVO (on its current state at least) only cause longer loading times though
or does it already have updates without screen transitions, i don't know
floral valve
is there a mod that adds more dialogues and events for npc interactions that you can recommend?
robust bison
canon friendly dialogue expandion
shy orbit
yeah, that's good for general dialogue expansion
for events i don't think there really is a similar mod. quite a few npc mods add events that involve villagers in one way or another. SVE adds events, life cycle as well
nova carbon
removed the wind effects and removed then readded seasonal, seems okay now
thanks for the help!
shy orbit
np
viscid bane
So, my maniac checking on mods expanding the house:
- Bathroom after 2nd upgrade - cannot sleep
- Compact bathroom - same shiet
- Ace's expanded house - I have some artifacts in there fff
- Seasonal Garden Farmhouse - working, but I need to retexture it to my wooden needs
somber nexus
What's the best mod just to add some balanced, non-'immersion' breaking crops just for the sake of variety? I don't want new places or NPCs or anything, just some different crops to till each season
robust bison
!ppja
native dragonBOT
Project Populate Json Assets (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1935) is a collection of content packs for Json Assets that add new crops, flowers, trees, and recipes. (Also see https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/ for a collection of references for PPJA and associated packs.)
somber nexus
Thank you!
robust bison
np
urban blaze
So my friends stopped playing our co-op world, but it got a good start and i want continue it, problem is I can't seem to remove their houses, when i go to demolish to buildings in robin's they dont show up, anyone know a way around this?
outer turret
Afaik sve doesn't have much year-locked content
@sharp belfry donn't some events not trigger if you've seen other events? Or am i confusing it with another mod?
sharp belfry
I don't think so? at least I don't remember such things being there last time I checked
the one thing that locks a significant amount of content out is completing the cc since multiple events rely on joja being in town
outer turret
Also if you want more dialogue and events for Marnie amd Jas i made Ranch Expansion and highly recommend 10k Cats Immersive Shane.
coral depot
Hi guys I've got a question concerning launch options. So far I've been using the method inside steam>Stardew Valley>Properties.
But now I'd like to have two steam shortcuts, one launching the vanilla game and the other SMAPI, but working with steam just like when you change the launch options.
I made a steam shortcut and wrote additional launch options with - , and this is what I have.
steam://rungameid/413150// -"D:\PROGRAMMES\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\StardewModdingAPI.exe" %command%
But it doesn't work and the game launches in normal mode, not smapi. I was wondering if anyone knew the correct way to type the launch option in a steam shortcut ?
Or maybe there is another way ? In short, I'd like to be able to launch either vanilla or smapi and have achievements and overlay working on both
outer turret
Quite a few of the datable npc events in sve esp the mature ones wont trigger if youve seen some higher heart events with the chars
outer turret
Ive just read through the sve json. Lfl has Jas and Vincent throwing rocks at Linus's tent? I always figured it was Sebastian or townies. Cannot see Jas doing it myself.
royal arrow
@visual thicket hi there!
I recommend first updating your mods, that should fix some of the errors (there’s convenient links at the top of the log).
Next, note that you have 2 mods that were skipped; the error messages say how to fix that.
Not sure why Climates of Ferngill says it's broken, I think maybe because you're on Android? It's definitely fine on Windows (I use it), so check the mod description and comments to see if that mod is compatible with Android, same with Skill Prestige
Also, if you're looking to learn more about how to read your log, see below
.quote 5031
devout pumiceBOT
[#5031] "If you're looking to learn more about how to read your error log, there's an annotated one here https://m.imgur.com/SRfOvKB" - LenneDalben (30 Aug 2020 @ 11:43:35 PM UTC)
scenic turret
Does anyone know any mods that replace the town buildings that would match Elle’s seasonal buildings?
royal arrow
Oooh that's a good question! The only mods I know of that change the town buildings are Flower Valley and I think Starblue Valley o:
Maybe someone else knows though, that'd be cool 👀
scenic turret
Oooooh that is perfect, the design/theme my friend and I chose is the Starblue one
royal arrow
Should be in the game options menu, they added it as a feature for 1.4 o:
scenic turret
Does SVE change furniture? I’m a bit baffled on what mod I’ve downloaded that’s changed my furniture, when I already had a mod for furniture before downloading more mods today
And also what are all of the different files that come with SVE? Do I have to keep all the different versions; TMX, JA, CM etc? I’m assuming they all have different content for the mod?
(Please ping if you answer c:)
deep totem
SVE doesn't change the furniture
Those files are for all the diff parts of the mod, if you delete them then u basically broke SVE
scenic turret
I thought as much
deep totem
U could always check what mods u downloaded today that might changed it, (download history?)
scenic turret
I’m very confused though what has changed my furniture then because I haven’t downloaded any furniture mods
deep totem
recolor?
deep totem
Some recolor changed interior as well,,
scenic turret
Ahh makes sense!
deep totem
Hope u can locate and keep what u want :3
scenic turret
Me too 😂
I’m trying to figure out why Babies take after spouse isn’t working
I think it may be conflicting with ChildToNPC for SVE?
Those are the only 2 child related mods I have
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
deep totem
I think it was mentioned somewhere that babies after spouse/child to NPC have unofficial update
scenic turret
Ahh yes I’m downloading the unofficial update rn
royal arrow
as a note, SVE has an install guide that explains everything, it's linked in the mod description
scenic turret
I’ve got it all downloaded and working so all good in that department
royal arrow
I mention it because you were asking earlier about the different folders, always good to check the mod description when trying to install a mod 
shrewd gate
With my baby mod I had to use the config.json to select the little Sophia babies I wanted, so you may want to check that too!
royal arrow
I'm not sure what's caused your errors, but if you're sure you installed all those mods correctly, I'd check the mod description and comments of the mods with errors to confirm they're compatible with Android
Hopefully someone else in the chat will be able to give you more specific details though o:
pastel nacelle
Does anyone have a map of the desert in Stardew Valley Expanded ? I sear I am looking for something but I just can not find it
deep totem
Wdym have a map?
scenic turret
Is there an NPC map locations SVE version?
sharp belfry
yes
scenic turret
Oh I’m looking i can’t seem to find it
deep totem
You could read the description
pastel nacelle
Like an overview of the area ? Like a birds-eye-view ?
scenic turret
Found it paha
deep totem
Cloud: Are you talking about NPC map location?
pastel nacelle
https://i.redd.it/0qbzdguurfa41.jpg ohh, this works
No, I was looking for the dragon
Hey can I take my horse to the desert ?
scenic turret
You could try the horse whistle mod
scenic turret
I use it to ride my horse around my greenhouse as with the mod I use it’s huge haha
fresh mulch
anyone recommends a furniture mod that doesn't look too out of place with vanilla furniture?
fair vessel
@pastel nacelle you can make your own bird's-eye view of any game map by typing /mapscreenshot in chat
The image will be saved in %appdata%\StardewValley\Screenshots
@fresh mulch try the Lumisteria sets?
pastel nacelle
WHOAAAAA.... This is the most amazing thing that I have seen all week. Much and/or all the thanks 😄
royal arrow
guto8797, there's a couple out there, Gervig has Gervig91's Furniture, which is animated. I also like Mi's Elegant Victorian Furniture and Yellog's Dark Wood and Cream Furniture.
scenic turret
I’m getting a loooot of errors, I’m just grabbing my log rq, my game crashed suddenly when I was trying to make it fullscreen, I had a ton of errors from SMAPI and Json Assets
There we gooo, I’m going to try and load it again but I’ve never had this happen before
Reloaded my game and all seems to be good
One question, is it normal for smapi to give warnings at the start about those particular mods, in my log?
dire fractal
Should i install Xtardew Valley? I don't mind adult content if is well done and it adds to the story.
tepid blade
The portrait mod i got wont work
fair vessel
Is it a mod for Content Patcher, for Portraiture, or XNB?
tepid blade
Its for portraiture
fair vessel
Ok, make sure you put it in your Portraiture folder.
So
Mods/
Portraiture/
Portraits/
AnyFolderName/
Abigail.png
Alex.png
...```Also make sure you unzipped the downloaded folder before putting it in
And then press P when you see a dialogue box in-game
scenic turret
Who and where are Camilla, Alesia, Isaac and Morgan? 😂
fair vessel
You'll meet them later on
tepid blade
Castle village
tepid blade
Yes camelia is an event in the west woods alesia isaac and morgan are in adventures guild when you make friends with marlon
fair vessel
No, Morgan comes ||to apprentice with the Wizard in year 3||
scenic turret
Ohhh okay they’re not npcs that move into and wander around town then?
tepid blade
Oh wait lol im dumb i forgot about Morgan is wizard apprentice
fresh mulch
any mods yall recommend alongside SDV Expanded?
tepid blade
||Millie once you make friends with marlon you meet them then you unlock the crimsom badlands then when the castle village part is complete for the mod we will be able to talk to them||
royal arrow
the mod description for SVE mentions some mods that pair well with SVE, so there are some there o:
fresh mulch
already got all of em 😄
royal arrow
I have a pretty extensive mod list but idk if they're compatible with SVE, so hopefully someone else here can chime in 😄
fresh mulch
also got automate, horse whistle, lookup anything range display
deep totem
@scenic turret you can turn off specific characters in the map if seeing them might be bothering u
tepid blade
You could get the mizus flower mod
rare quest
I promise that bug is fixed in SVE 1.11 >.<
deep totem
Flash, isn't that related to the NPC being anti-social NPCs?
tepid blade
wait what bug
scenic turret
Ohhh no it’s not bothering me, I just wondered who they were 
fresh mulch
is there any way to expand the fridge? I have like 2 mini fridges and still aint enough
scenic turret
Yeah there is a mod for it, can’t remember the name though
royal arrow
there's a couple different mods that accomplish something like that, like Remote Fridge Storage, which is what I use
ChestEx expands the size of fridges and chests to whatever amount you set, but it's not 100% compatible with Automate
rare quest
@deep totem yes. I’m going to disable them until players trigger them to spawn into the world. The reason they exist from day one was because of the character sprite sheet index for festival spawning. But I changed that for SVE 1.11.
deep totem
I guess I'd ask because I'm likely going to deal with that at some point 😅 . When you say disable does it mean not adding the entries at all to the NPC disposition? Is the cause is the NPCs being anti-social or because the character sheet sprite index?
Hmm, this is more like making mods thingy
royal arrow
I think the latest version of NPC map locations adds a way to hide custom NPCs, there's documentation on that on the github for it, but yus, we're veering into #making-mods-general territory 😄
sharp belfry
re: mods to use with SVE, I use all of mine with it...
deep totem
And that's 925, impressive 😮
sharp belfry
well SVE itself is like 20 so
deep totem
It doesn't diminish the impressiveness :p
royal arrow
Jani, do you have a lot of personal tweaks you've made to make them compatible, or is it "this one works keep it, that one didn't, remove it"?
sharp belfry
some I've tweaked, like with crop mods that partially overlap I delete the crop in question in one of them
@rare quest while you're here I want to ask, what's the nature of the incompatibility between SVE and LFL?
rare quest
Well. a big one is the oasis shop map.
sharp belfry
oh, I didn't know lfl changes that
rare quest
And some schedules/events. I needa look at the patches to double check. been a while.
ashen elbow
i think wizard's schedule goes bonk
pine ledge
~~I fixed Wizard tho. 
~~
ashen elbow
huh
i remember having lfl installed, without sve, and i think his schedule still kinda bonked,, 
pine ledge
? How so? What does he do? Which part isn’t working?
ashen elbow
well i dont have the log anymore, and im not sure if i can replicate it, but there was an error saying that the schedule was loading twice, and therefore wasnt working
pine ledge
Schedule or schedule strings? If it’s the latter, I’ve posted in the comments how to fix that issue. I’m not uploading any new versions until I’ve gotten the CP 1.17/SDV1.5 rewrite done.
ashen elbow
hm, im not sure
pine ledge
But schedule I can absolutely confirm is only coded to load once.
ashen elbow
would it be bad if i said that i think it was schedules
pine ledge
Strings on the other hand, I missed one of my copy-pastes when adding language compatibility.
I mean. If it is schedules specifically, and not schedule strings it’s not fixable from LfL’s end. Since it is only coded to load schedules once.
ashen elbow
and.. would it be bad if i said that i somehow fixed it
pine ledge
Pls explain
ashen elbow
so this might just be me, but i ended up deleting the part of code that loaded in the schedule for sve, and,, for some reason??? the game stopped yelling at me...
pine ledge
In SVE? Or in LfL?
ashen elbow
lfl
pastel nacelle
Ehmm, is it normal that I can not get hay out of the dispenser when I have fully upgraded coop&barn ?
pine ledge
🤔 I’ll take a look. You say that this is with you not using SVE, however, which would absolutely not fix it. This is only the case if you’re using SVE and I forgot to make the initial LFL schedule conditional to using SVE. In which case, there are two ways of fixing it. 1) Add conditions to the initial schedule or 2) change the SVE schedule to use ”Action” : “EditData”
Doing it in the method you mentioned would actually change how it was intended to work with SVE by forcing LfL’s original schedule.
fair vessel
@pastel nacelle that is normal.
You can blow up some hay off the bench with a cherry bomb to get around it
pastel nacelle
Well, I wanted to get hay out of the silo... But thanks for the idea
fair vessel
That will let you.
Once there are empty spots on the bench, you can take from the hopper.
ashen elbow
let me put the content.json back to the way it was for a moment
pine ledge
😅 I'll try and have this all fixed for the next version. I'm going to be switching to the Includes for heightened compatibility. Hopefully this should also stop complaints of people not being dateable. That one's always a weird one since they're all coded literally the same way.
pastel nacelle
Perhaps a silly question, but the giant crop that spawns using Immersive Farm 2. Does that thing grow back ? If yes, at what rate ? Or is it like kinda what I expect and once per season thing ?
fair vessel
I think it's random
sharp belfry
? giant crops are a vanilla thing and I don't remember IF2 adding a fixed one...
pastel nacelle
Yes Jani, it is a vanilla thing. However. Well , let me just grab a screenshot and draw on it
deep totem
Yep, I think the optional farm adds it. Though in my save I think it was meteorite?
ashen elbow
in the few times ive played sve, it was a meteroite, and a giant cauli
sharp belfry
huh
ashen elbow
Oh hey i recreated the error
rare quest
Meteorite during winter. Large crop depending on season.
sharp belfry
oooh
rare quest
iirc its only a single spawn per season to avoid it being too OP. Players do have a sorta long trek to get there. (and it is locked behind a gold pickaxe upgrade)
dense marsh
Hello guys. Anyone can recommend me mods what improve the mining and the combat experiences in the game? Thanks! 🙂
deep totem
Are u looking for harder or easier? Or just more interesting?
dense marsh
More interesting
rare quest
SVE adds a combat area... :p
(and you can also toggle monsters to be dark souls level of difficulty)
sharp belfry
@royal arrow you're getting there!
royal arrow
I also like Combat Controls because it reduces the clicking, which is great at reducing fatigue, but that's more 
than interesting
Walk to the Desert is an expansion that also adds a combat area, and requires Garden Village (I'm pretty sure)
Mineral Mage and Jewelcraft add more that you can do with gems from the mines o:
deep totem
NPCs follow to the mine and do stuff
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4582
Combat around village
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5864
New place to combat
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2571
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6700
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6692
late nebula
adds things to list
dense marsh
Thanks guys! 😄 
rigid hatch
How does one get out of the DeepWoods if one gets lost
deep totem
oh yes, cropbeast!
royal arrow
Use a totem lol @ Jack
deep totem
It's really nice to wake up and greeted by the witch
rigid hatch
😭
sharp belfry
It's really nice to wake up and greeted by the witch
@deep totem does that actually happen? :o
royal arrow
I mean, she shows up to start the Cropbeasts, if you have that option on in the config
deep totem
It's a little touch to explain the why
I feel like playing again, but too lazy to update :/
royal arrow
You could always try it and see if the game blows up lol
Do not listen to the terrible advice 
deep totem
Oh I'll wait until SMAPI 3.7 coming out... Maybe a week after just to be sure
royal arrow
I only recently updated CP to 1.17
coral depot
About mod updates, are modders slowly integrting updates via Platonymous' Mod Updater ?
deep totem
CP and TMXL is the one I keep updated for
coral depot
I've seen it's pretty recent so I was wondering if it's interesting to get or not
deep totem
It depends on the modder, I guess if the modder is aware they'll try to integrate. Same thing with config mod
royal arrow
I think it's only for SMAPI mods, and it's opt-in, yea
deep totem
Hmm, I wonder it CP and JA mods could be auto updated as well, would be nice...
coral depot
I dream of an auto update solution just like steam workshop ahah
It's a bummer to always spend time each week updating a few mods before playing
late nebula
Auto update would be nice and encourage consistency across mod implementation.
scenic turret
The mobile phone mod got a new update right after I just updated it 💀
late nebula
At this point, I wouldn't see the point. The modding community has solved most of their problems.
coral depot
Or would it require smapi as a dlc on steam, like tModLoader with Terraria ?
Well, except auto update ahah
scenic turret
Updating manually is quick if you just copy and paste the purple links from the log in the background when you open the game
royal arrow
There is a feature available if you're a nexus premium member, so that's partly why it hasn't been implemented (it'd be difficult to do without stepping on nexus' toes). I don't think of the lack of auto update as a "problem" though, it's more of a nice-to-have
deep totem
Yep it's nice-to-have thing. It also encourage user to check the changelog and see what changes or new feature
fresh mural
can i smh spawn animal in my barn or coop faster?
torpid idol
hey i was just wondering why i cant see/ they are invisable sve characters during main events
deep totem
@fresh mural what do you mean spawn the animal faster?
fresh mural
so like
i need a lot of goat and pig
but im too lazy to buy them sperately
or unless u wanna join my farm and do them for me
deep totem
@ razer, there are some characters in SVE that will be unlocked on later as the game progresses. What do u refer here in as main events?
royal arrow
You can set "enable pregnancy" for them, and then some will show up in your barn without needing to buy more of them o.o
That's a vanilla feature
fresh mural
ik but like it barely happens
royal arrow
Ah, idk then, hopefully someone else will know of a way, but I don't think there's a mod to automate purchasing animals, or speed up the pregnancy process o.o
deep totem
I think more u mean sth like purchasing animals in bunch? I remember some mod idea like that in github...
royal arrow
Ah, it could take time for someone to make the mod then. It's good to remember that this is a hobby for people, something they do in their spare time
fresh mural
ye
royal arrow
It's also not guaranteed someone will make it though
deep totem
Yep"
fresh mural
ig i will have to buy two of each animal
wait
so far i have only seen allow pregnancy option on cow and chicken
not on pig and goat
ashen elbow
chickens,, can't get pregnant?
fair vessel
@torpid idol are you a farmhand in a multiplayer game? Custom NPCs are always invisible during Festivals to farmhands in multiplayer. Not just SVE NPCs, but NPCs from any mod.
torpid idol
i tried this in my own host a it still didnt however my friend could see them all
fair vessel
If your friend is the host, that's why they can see them
torpid idol
he could see them in the game i hosted however i couldnt
velvet tiger
Hey
fair vessel
You hosted the game, started a new farm, you lived in the farmhouse and your friend was in a cabin?
torpid idol
yup
fair vessel
That's super-weird. I've never heard of a non-host player being able to see custom NPCs during festival events.
torpid idol
@deep totem i mean the egghunt event and dance festival event
bronze merlin
ok so he is in my multiplayer and when we go to like the flower dance or the loue or the festivals i can see sve characters that stand with everyone but he cant
velvet tiger
I was planning to start a new farm with PPJA crops/flowers/trees and Artisan Valley, but without the cooking portion, but I'm getting errors, I came prepared with my log:
fair vessel
Yeah as I've said - that's normal if the player who can't see them is not the host. But if the player who CAN see them is a farmhand, that's something we've never heard of before. Please share your logs so we can investigate.
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
velvet tiger
Why can't Artisan Valley work without More Recipes? It's not listed as a required mod
royal arrow
HakunaMatata, if you check the Skipped mods section, it gives you the error details on why they're not loading
That's interesting, I've always thought that was required
velvet tiger
If I read correctly, that's it
torpid idol
fair vessel
(is this the log from the person who cannot see them?)
royal arrow
ah, from the mod description: * For those who do not want the entire PPJA collection, you need Fruits and Veggies, More Trees, Mizu's Flowers, and More Recipes at a minimum.
bronze merlin
yes
royal arrow
so it might not be listed in the Requirements section, but per the mod description and the log you have, More Recipes is required
bronze merlin
my stuff is working flawlessly he cant see them as the farmhand
royal arrow
you can leave a comment and paradigm can add it, looks like it was left off by accident
fair vessel
Well, the log says he's a farmhand. That's why he can't see them. It's normal.
velvet tiger
My bad then 
royal arrow
UNLESS it's a part of the PPJA collection, and that's why it's not listed
fair vessel
You said you tried being the host and still couldn't see them - that log would be more interesting to see.
bronze merlin
but he can see them out of events like he is trying to marry one of the sve characters and haveing no problems. it is only durring special events they are invisible
fair vessel
Yes, this is a known bug with ALL custom NPCs during festival events. Not just SVE. There is no fix.
bronze merlin
okie thanks
torpid idol
okie thanks jonqora
fair vessel
(Also watch out - if a farmhand tries to marry a custom NPC it will very likely crash your whole game, unless that's been fixed and I don't know about it)
royal arrow
(as a side note, are Pathos and other modders aware of this, and it's truly a known, unfixable bug? Unlike the rotating map tiles thing, which was a known, fixable bug, but the mod author wasn't aware and thus hadn't fixed it 😄)
fair vessel
If you dare to try it, install Advanced Save Backup just in case, so you can revert to a pre-proposal save if it goes bad.
torpid idol
now i move really slow
with my movement speed set to 6
im just tryting to restart my game now
ok i fixed it
outer turret
Due to some mod I added, i appear to have made parsley wine...
deep totem
I noticed there was once weed wine as well
velvet tiger
And then my last question would be..
outer turret
Its worth 339 coins so not too terrible but...
velvet tiger
I'm getting that 2 mods need updates, but I have downloaded the current versions... today
royal arrow
Lemurkat, sometimes the IDs get scrambled when you add extra JA mods, it's harmless
the price should be the same as the original intended item, though. I've had it happen to me and that was the case
HakunaMatata, if you're 100% sure you have the latest versions, it's possible the manifest.json just lists the incorrect version #, which is what SMAPI is going off of. It happens and it's harmless
velvet tiger
Yeah, I literally downloaded them less than 30 minutes ago
royal arrow
if you want to get rid of the message, you can manually update the manifest.json to have the correct version #
also, I've definitely downloaded a mod update and 15min later there was a new one, so it's not out of the realm of possibility the mods were genuinely updated 🤣
velvet tiger
lmao, yeah, that's true! I did check Nexus back again, just in case and I should really be good
I'll try the manifest thing, so it's less confusing on start up
deep totem
Crab pots are tricky
royal arrow
the default key to show the grid is "U", I recommend toggling that so you can see better with green/red overlays, buuuuut I'd imagine you need to place the wood path on the bridge itself?
deep totem
U might be better off putting them on the bridge area
royal arrow
oh the "boardwalk" section? I think I've seen people do that as well
torpid idol
https://smapi.io/log/7b0396a24fb4424d889187df8e869c0b hey are these red errors a problem if they activate when im playing?
deep totem
lenne: yep"
fresh mural
dang it i cant put them path next to them
royal arrow
razer, I recommend updating your mods first, in case that fixes the "game" error (they're listed at the very top of the log with convenient links)
The spacecore message is harmless though, known when in multiplayer
The Content Patcher error tells you how to correct the issue
deep totem
yep the game doesn't allow, which is why boardwalk is preferred for crabpots
I've been using automate for forever. Is it way harder to play without it?
royal arrow
AHAHAHA yes
you lose soooo much time going to grab the good, then put the input, especially if you have a ton of machines
deep totem
I've been spoiled..
royal arrow
lol nah, your quality of life has improved! 
rigid hatch
Does anyone know if the Winter Crops mod gives you farming exp?
scenic turret
Does anyone know of any baby/toddler takes after spouse mods that work with multilayer?
royal arrow
I still remember the days of manually grabbing my mayo, cloth, and cheese, and manually loading up those machines
does the winter crops mod just add crops for the winter? If so, then yes
deep totem
That def seems like lots of time
royal arrow
farming exp is gained when you harvest crops
scenic turret
Why do these toddler/baby take after spouse mods have a ginger option for Sebastian babies I’m very confused what am I missing here lol
snow wraith
genetrics be like that. babies can get traits from the family that haven't been expressed in anyone since their great-grandparents or more
scenic turret
Oh I thought I was missing some context or something
snow wraith
his mom's hair is red, so it's not that far of a stretch
but yeah that's all it is
scenic turret
Ohhhh
outer turret
the price should be the same as the original intended item, though. I've had it happen to me and that was the case
@royal arrow i knew ids got scrambled but didnt know about the price! I hope thats right as I have some sweet gem berry wine a brewing and id hate for them to sell for a pittance (luckily the starfruit wine will be a-ok)
pine ledge
Yeah. Ginger baby is just "Baby looks like Robin, Seb's mom"
fathom timber
Trying to help someone get SMAPI for MacOS, you just install Mono, and then download SMAPI separately, ist hat right?
royal arrow
Yea I confirmed it once by testing because I was also worried about that lol
fathom timber
She's saying that "Terminal would like access to Downloads"
royal arrow
Galechaser, have you seen the getting started guide? It has install instructions per OS
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
fathom timber
yes, I looked at it
it just says "Install mono"
but I haven't actually done it becasue I have windows, thus why I'm asking
outer turret
There are those of us who headcanon Seb as a "secret ginger".
Also there was a mod to make hin a red head and hes adorable.
royal arrow
All good, just establishing the knowledge baseline
outer turret
(I in fact started a fanfic about him but gave up cos it got too dark)
sharp belfry
Yeah, his hair isn't a natural color and we only know how one of his birth parents looks like sooo
restive zodiac
I got pretty attached to southeast asian Seb and Robin
royal arrow
Black isn't a natural color o.o?
restive zodiac
Yeah I dunno, I just took him as having black hair, he didn't really seem type to obsess over constantly keeping it dyed :P
sharp belfry
I see it as dark purple
restive zodiac
That's how black is in Stardew though
royal arrow
Yea CA doesn't use pure black or white
restive zodiac
On the other hand, the purple haired portraits are fun and I like those too 😄
scenic turret
I thought his hair was black o:
outer turret
One of the many charms of SDV is that he can be whatever you want him to be. Unless obv CA brings in his father. And i dont see that happeninf.
scenic turret
Isn’t there a mod with something to do with his father?
outer turret
Had anyone ever questioned what haley and emilys parents are up to?
scenic turret
Was scrolling and saw it earlier
outer turret
Ah but mods are not canon and u dont need to install them if your vision varies.
restive zodiac
There's mods about lots of things yeah
You could make his dad a dinosaur if you want :D
outer turret
Sve and the sebs dad mod both have completelt different stories
Personally mine differs from both
royal arrow
You're right Lemurkat, I think the only thing I've seen in-game about Emily and Haley's parents is from Lewis, saying they just up and left. Idk if that's vanilla or a mod though 
outer turret
(My thoughts im not actually going to write them. Seb doesnt need more attention)
deep totem
Oh, I haven't see any of Seb story in SVE....
outer turret
Its a mature event so u may not
restive zodiac
Lenne is going to fight you now, Lemur
deep totem
hmm, I think I forgot to tweak the setting after I wiped out all the modes,,
scenic turret
I’m currently on the hunt for a toddler/baby takes after spouse mod that actually works with multiplayer
royal arrow
Lemurkat, you could write it if you want, or not write it.
I think mouse is pointing at my great love for Seb lol
royal arrow
I get you though, there's characters who need some TLC, like Vincent, Caroline, Gunther, Marlon, the Dwarf, even Pierre... Etc.
outer turret
Oops i accidebrly missed half my stalking
deep totem
Millie: does the mod said it doesn't support multiplayer or did you test it in-game?
restive zodiac
Any CP ones should work for multiplayer, the problem would just be that you need a SMAPI mod to distinguish one player's children from another's.
outer turret
Tfw when u want 2 chara to walk together and they both go different routes
royal arrow
Can farmhands have babies in multiplayer?
Can a host and a farmhand together have a baby?
restive zodiac
If there are only 2 players, one thing you could do is set up one for "when in cabin" and the other for "when in farmhouse" so they match correct spouse or manually set spouse for those places
deep totem
My quest framework content pack adds a little bit with Vincent and Caroline, though I made them using the add conversation topic which I can't get my PR to blend nicely with QF...
restive zodiac
Yes and yes
scenic turret
Ive tested a couple, one states that it isn’t compatible with multiplayer and the other just didn’t work
restive zodiac
(The main player gets the question first and answers, then the farmhand is also asked if main player said yes)
royal arrow
How does the game decide the appearance for babies between host and farmhand? Oh wait, in vanilla it's generic right? I've been using babies take after spouse in single player for ages lol
scenic turret
Testing another now that states it is compatible with multiplayer though
restive zodiac
Lumi's should be fine, it's just all babies will look like the local spouse
Oh, I was thinking of toddlers.
Babies are those sleeping things that live in the dinosaur cage...
royal arrow
I was using the term baby generically here, babies and toddlers
deep totem
It's sad I hardly play far enough to have babies
On the save I have I just "ignore" them
royal arrow
I've only gotten far enough once, maybe twice
restive zodiac
I'm not really interested in babies but I've played a lot of test saves with them 😄
deep totem
Mouse has test so many,,
royal arrow
I had my eyes on Child to NPC, but it seems like it might not be ready to be introduced to my 397-mod load out >_>
deep totem
I admire how detailed and patient u re in learning the mods and help with the debugging
restive zodiac
When I wanted to check out all the 1.4 content with new and existing saves, Mousey just zipped his whole saves folder and plopped it in channel, so it was a fun change of pace to completely wreck someone's happy home
"update: I have turned all of Fred's children to doves"
It made it more interesting to me than it being some rando save :D
sharp belfry
I had my eyes on Child to NPC, but it seems like it might not be ready to be introduced to my 397-mod load out >_>
@royal arrow I use it...
deep totem
In an alternate universe
royal arrow
I... Does it work well, Jani? O:
Do you use any of the accompanying mods, like Babysitter, or, the other ones whose names I've forgotten? Lol
scenic turret
Hmmm I’m using one that states it’s compatible with multiplayer but my child hasn’t changed, could it possibly be because I dont have a spouse anymore? 😂
sharp belfry
Haven't noticed any errors and stuff and for the second question I know I'm using one of those but cant remember which
scenic turret
Ah I believe it is, my friends child has changed and he’s adorable!!
Mine is left with the normal sdv textures though
deep totem
Are you the host / farmhands?
scenic turret
I’m the host
But I haven’t got a spouse anymore, and if the mod is made so it changes based off of the spouse my child hasn’t got anything to change to
deep totem
might be cause no longer a spouse
royal arrow
I haven't yet poked into it enough to know all the options for Child to NPC, but if you get a sec to check which ones you're using, let me know 😆
For uh, a much later time, when I finally have kiddos still, good intel!
thorny salmon
oh my god i'm coming back to the game for the first time since multiplayer and i am so so so terrified to update all my mods for my 20year savegame cries this moddrop thing is so new to me
royal arrow
Immersive Spouses is another one I've been tracking but haven't installed, because I wasn't sure how well it'd mesh with my 29 dialog mods, and also now that I've introduced Multiple Spouses to my load out
scenic turret
Lumisteria’s didn’t work with multiplayer
restive zodiac
That's what I'm saying Millia, all of these types of mods are local
scenic turret
The one I’m using that works with multiplayer but isn’t working because I haven’t got a spouse is this one https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4739
royal arrow
!mpmods would this help clarify a bit?
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F for details on how mods work in multiplayer. :)
restive zodiac
(Lumi's mod works fine for me in multiplayer, just with the limitations I mentioned because it's a CP mod. It changes all children for the current player, even if it's someone else's children, hehe.)
shut violet
yeah, it's a limitation of smapi, it's the same for, for example, deluxe barns, all deluxe barns will look the same if using only CP
i can do something like "if in cabin use this settings" but this will still apply to all cabins, so it's good for a two players save, but still not great for other cases
restive zodiac
Just to clarify though it's not a limitation of SMAPI but Content Patcher - CP just lets you add/edit various assets and doesn't change how the game uses them. A SMAPI mod could do this, but the game itself shares child sprites, so CP doesn't do anything extra to distinguish them.
sharp belfry
Immersive Spouses is another one I've been tracking but haven't installed, because I wasn't sure how well it'd mesh with my 29 dialog mods, and also now that I've introduced Multiple Spouses to my load out
@royal arrow I use that one too
restive zodiac
I think a cabin token would be nice for a SMAPI mod to sent to CP, so you could say "this specific player #'s cabin". That would be enough to location-lock assets like children in them, too... although with that route you'd need to say "this person is in cabin 4, this person is in cabin 2" so not optimal still.
scenic turret
Oh no that’s what I’m talking about, Lumi’s didn’t change any of the children at all for me
shut violet
smapi mods may remove the limitation, issue is that, most smapi mods doing this will require files to put somewhere for the assets and so aren't compatible with my CP mod
what ?
royal arrow
Jani!!! What!!! :D you're about to make all my modding dreams come true. Gimme the deets, please!
Do the spouses move around ok, and you get relatively varied dialog, assuming you use dialog mods? Do you use Multiple Spouses, if so, do they still move around ok?
shut violet
can you provide a log pls ?
restive zodiac
Remember you can always ask for help if something isn't working as intended :)
shut violet
because my mod should change the children, definitively 😄
sharp belfry
Lenne: so I'm wondering if this mod would work wit-
Me: y e s
shut violet
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
shut violet
oh also, are you using child to npc ?
scenic turret
Yep
dire fractal
Omg Jani you're the first person Ive seen to have MORE mods than me (I have ~500 installed) 
pine ledge
Lumisteria’s didn’t work with multiplayer
@scenic turret It would take some work to get it set up how you like, but there's this: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6278
shut violet
ah, this may be this, if the children are old enough Child to NPC will change them and make them npc, and you may need https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5430 this one
deep totem
Lenne & Jani, in your exp, does the dialogue mods mix well when using together? So far I only sticked to the canon-friendly (that long one), SVE, and immersive Shane
sharp belfry
@dire fractal pity you weren't here when minerva was active, she had around 800 at a time when I had just 400
royal arrow
Jani!!! What!!! :D you're about to make all my modding dreams come true. Gimme the deets, please!
Do the spouses move around ok, and you get relatively varied dialog, assuming you use dialog mods? Do you use Multiple Spouses, if so, do they still move around ok?
Follow up question: if you use Multiple Spouses and Child to NPC, do you also have a mod for changing the appearance of babies and toddlers, if so, which one?
restive zodiac
I wish they would provide tokens for CP, because I like Lumi's better sprite and options wise, and it's nice when content modders are able to do things 😔
dire fractal
Dialogue mods will replace eachother if they edit the same time/event with the last one loaded replacing the previous ones that conlfict
sharp belfry
Yep
shut violet
(foggywizard, the main issue is that i use a lot of options and overlay, and for people this would require a lot of work to use with this mod)
restive zodiac
(They can be used together when they don't replace the same dialogue key -- or rather ALL the same ones :P -- but they can still conflict lore-wise, so that's usually something people are asking about compatibility-wise too.)
heavy sail
Hi everyone. So I just reached 600 mods and I need m o r e
Any recommendations?
sharp belfry
I still install all of them cause even if some dialogue gets overwritten each one adds more variety with the ones that don't
royal arrow
Itsbenter: I haven't had any issues with mixing my 29, but obviously gotta remember that there's probably a fair amount overlap in keys, so there's likely dialog from a mod I've not seen, because another mod "wins" the conflict.
Lorewise, I also haven't had issues, all of mine mix fine enough
By the by, the Canon-Friendly mod description has a sweet explanation about the conflict with some examples, if you wanted to take a look at that
shut violet
i also know that it's hard to make compatibility with my mod because it is a bit complex
sharp belfry
@royal arrow can't remember the exact mod and I'm on my phone getting ready for bed
royal arrow
ExnoticTest, if you want, I could send you my list, I've been updating it as I try out more mods o:
heavy sail
Ah, ok.
royal arrow
olive sequoia
hello again
i posted about this last night but I left my game to load over night (i have SVE and I got it to work yesterday but then it just froze whenever i tried to load my save). It was recommended that i leave it to load in the background so i just left it over night AND THE GAME PROGRESSED TO THE END OF THE MONTH while it was saying 'SMAPI isnt responding' so the game is playing but i just cant play or see or do anything (like my player has just been sitting in bed and passing out for 20 straight days i guess). Can anyone help me out
royal arrow
@sharp belfry when you have a sec (i.e. not right now because you're going to sleep lol), you could send me your log so I can look through, as well
leofric1814, do you use windowed or windowed borderless mode, by any chance?
fathom timber
Sorry, back again, we're trying to install SMAPI on a mac, and ran the install on mac.Command
but accidentally clicked no to the request to access downloads folder
anyone know how to fix that?
royal arrow
No need to apologize, it's all good! I don't know how to fix that, hopefully someone here does 😄
olive sequoia
leofric1814, do you use windowed or windowed borderless mode, by any chance?
@royal arrow i have used both im currently using windowed
i tried fullscreen but same result
royal arrow
Ok, sometimes I get the "SMAPI is not responding" message if I accidentally click on the screen while it's loading, and I use windowed borderless. I then select "wait for it to respond" and it does within a few seconds, not sure why yours took so long
olive sequoia
ill try that. it seems to do that if i click at all.
royal arrow
If you want to roll back the saves to, you know, before the end of the month, SMAPI keeps backups in your Stardew Valley > save-backups folder
olive sequoia
well the thing was i still cant play the game xD
i cant even start a new one without it wigging out
😦
there doest even seem to be something wrong with the Log eihter
as far as i can tell i cnt really read them
like i can hear brids tweeting and stiff after a second of loading
royal arrow
Ah, I was recommending rolling back so we can try to do more troubleshooting from there. Although I'm personally heading out soon, someone else here might be able to assist. Your log is loading on my phone now
olive sequoia
it such a huge log lol. lemme roll it back realy quick
ill just delte the old saves and start over i was only on day 7
royal arrow
Ok cool, and try clicking "wait for it to respond" if you get that pop up, see if that helps
balmy oak
how do you turn off mods? I want to play some unmodded with friends
balmy oak
what is vortex
olive sequoia
its a mod manager that nexusmods provides.
balmy oak
I don't use that
royal arrow
You can launch the game directly from StardewValley.exe to launch it without mods, but you won't get Steam achievements that way
olive sequoia
listen to lenne theyre smart xD
balmy oak
oh okay, thank you
royal arrow
You could also create a mod group that has no mods on it, launch that modgroup using SMAPI, and get the same result, but with Steam achievements
!modgroups
native dragonBOT
See this link for how to load different mod groups: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F.
balmy oak
I don't need achievements
heavy sail
@royal arrow You have a very good mod list, I've already downloaded 20 new mods for my game.
olive sequoia
YASSSSSSSSSS @royal arrow I got it to work. I think what was holding it up was a tractor mod i had? but there was nothing in the log about that. I also had a mod that was uninstalled but the archive was still there and that mod didnt work with SVE so i dleted the archive, cleared my startup prefs and it WOrKED
royal arrow
Thank you, I'm glad it was helpful, ExnoticTest
Yay, glad it's working, leofric1814! 
And just as I was about to head out the door too lol
olive sequoia
perfect timing
analog verge
i just updated all my mod that needed it, and im still getting stuck at the train station when returning from aquarium
deep totem
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
deep totem
Wdym getting stuck in train station? Like the player can't move from certain tile?
analog verge
yes
im in a gate
says it cant apply a map edit because it dont exist
lol ive tried forcing a pass-out but i only have a fishing rod... i cant pass out from that
olive sequoia
can you just ait for the day to end and pass out
lapis void
16:13:36 WARN Content Patcher Can't apply map patch "Stardew Valley Expanded > EditMap Maps\Railroad" to Maps\Railroad: the FromFile file 'Assets\Maps\Railroad_Aquarium.tbin' doesn't exist.
analog verge
yea, but that would get annoying if i have to do that every time i visit the aquarium
yes @lapis void i seen that too... where do i get this file??
because all my mods are uptodate
deep totem
I tried downloading SVE and it seems the file is there...
deep totem
overwriting should be fine,, (?)
lapis void
i mean the easiest way to fix it is getting noclip mode and pressing F11 when you come back from the aquarium
olive sequoia
you could also get CJB Cheats Menu and use it to warp back 🙂
analog verge
yea... but i dont like mods like that... feels too cheaty
lapis void
with debug commands you can do debug wh to go straight home or debug warp rail
deep totem
debug warp farm XD
olive sequoia
you don have to use all the features just the warp one when you are stucl
lapis void
debug die debug exhaust lol
deep totem
slightly curious though what might've cause the file to not be there
analog verge
ok i added the file
and just now passed out lol
and it happened again
:/ may have to edit the map myself
fair vessel
Have you looked at the docs for train station mod? This might be fixable more simply than that
It's made to have the warp point be configurable for compatibility with mods that change the map
analog verge
ahh that might be easier
gray yew
hey guys, i'm having an issue with the Custom Music mod. it's failing to initialize, which makes SVE not work, which makes nothing work. idk what to do about it.
naive drum
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
heavy sail
Maybe try reinstalling it? I've never seen an issue like this.
shut violet
(i don't even see the mod listed in installed mods)
gray remnant
Hey guys, do the ppja packs work on android?
fair vessel
I saw a similar error with Custom Music recently, the issue was that the person had disabled audio on their computer. Does your computer have working speakers or an audio output device?
gray yew
i just adjusted all my setting for streaming and did notice i didn't have sound for the game
fair vessel
That seems like it might be related then. If you manage to fix your sound, it might fix this error too.
I'd suggest looking at audio issues in the general troubleshooting page
analog verge
what the name of the mod that gives tile info??
gleaming sphinx
So in SVE
fair vessel
Debug Mode? LookupAnything? (with EnableTileLookups true)
gleaming sphinx
You can give apples 300 dtarfruit twice by accident :x
fair vessel
(and ShowDataMiningFields true if you want all the debug info)
gleaming sphinx
Had to restart the whole day bc im not tsking that L lmao
gray yew
i have audio now but nothing changed unfortunately. i reinstalled a couple times, deleted any trace of it on my computer then tried again. I noticed SVE has it's own custom music folder that's the same as the mod itself so i switched it out, but it's the same error code.
fair vessel
Exact same log error? Hmm
gray yew
yeah word for word
fair vessel
What steps did you take to end up fixing the general audio issue?
Had you got around to reinstalling XNA yet? If no, maybe try that
gray yew
i just had voice meeter turned off so i had stardew going to a dead output. there was no real issue with it
i can try reinstalling that though
fair vessel
Yeah, it's hard to know, I'm just doing guesswork based on Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Audio being mentioned in the error output.
If an XNA reinstall + computer reboot doesn't fix it, I think I'll be out of ideas 
gray yew
welp, there's game audio, a fresh install, and a reboot with no fix. not a good sign.
fair vessel
tossing ideas to the wind
Delete your startup_preferences file from %appdata%/StardewValley?
ocean willow
I fired up my game for the first time in a while, and something went horribly wrong.
gray yew
swing and a miss on the preferences
fair vessel
@ocean willow your log error says you have duplicate copies of some mods. Delete these folders
Mods/[JA] Fresh Meat
Mods/[MFM] Fresh Meat
Mods/[PPJA] Fresh Meat
And then reinstall Fresh Meat mod.
naive drum
And you also need expanded preconditions utility
fair vessel
You also need the new Expanded Preconditions Utility mod for the updated Shop Tile Framework mod to work yeah
naive drum
and you have a MFM template in your mods folder for some reason
royal arrow
.quote 5031 
if you're looking to learn more about how to read logs, check this
devout pumiceBOT
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royal arrow
.quote 5031
devout pumiceBOT
[#5031] "If you're looking to learn more about how to read your error log, there's an annotated one here https://m.imgur.com/SRfOvKB" - LenneDalben (30 Aug 2020 @ 11:43:35 PM UTC)
royal arrow
Good to know, it doesn't work like ! commands where you can add comments after commands, huhu
naive drum
which is just, a thing that is there and you may want to remove it if you're not making an MFM mod
oh and it looks like the CCM Artisan Valley component has had its manifest deleted or something
so reinstall that
heavy sail
So, uh, I just had to wait a full hour to download SVE Yay for mediocre computers, I guess.
The game itself literally took 5 minutes to download...
robust bison
nexus download cap
ocean willow
But I don't think that's the biggest issue.
fair vessel
What's inside [CCM] Artisan Valley folder? Smapi is saying it's empty
ocean willow
I don't know why it's empty.
fair vessel
And I don't know if its folder is named the same, but [MFM] Name of you pack is apparently an unused template pack for Mail Framework Mod like Wingheart mentioned
Screenshot of the inside?
ocean willow
No need, folder is indeed empty.
fair vessel
Ah ok. You can just delete the folder then 🤷
Finally there's a mod that needs Child to NPC to run. Make sure you get this fixed unofficial update https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?threads/unofficial-mod-updates.2096/#post-14052
ocean willow
Dumb question, but where does Fresh Meat actually download from?
I've never downloaded the standalone mod, so I can't remember where I got it.
royal arrow
Nexus o.o?
ocean willow
I think a lot has changed since I last updated my mods.
No, like what actual file is it included in
I know Artisan Valley has an all-in-one that has the files from various mods.
I can't remember if Fresh Meat was included in that.
robust bison
it should be
fair vessel
It's included in the PPJA mega pack if that's what you mean
royal arrow
Yea there's a PPJA Collection, I thought Fresh Meat has a standalone download on nexus as well, yea
fair vessel
And yeah it also has standalone download
ocean willow
I think I figured that part out.
Let me see if my game is acting any better.
Nah, something is still really wrong.
The log is showing ongoing issues with Content Patcher and TMXLoader.
fair vessel
Hmm. There's an error in your Stardew Valley Expanded config.json file
Check the file with https://smapi.io/json to see if it can identify the error for you
The TMXL errors seem to be caused by cascading issues from that json file error
ocean willow
It was the SVE config file, thanks for your help.
floral shard
I can't seem to get the SVE world map to show correctly - NPCs show up on the map but it's not updating to reflect the SVE map itself. I went through and tried to find all recolors that I could to disable the world map recolors they have but still no change in world map
fair vessel
Like the map in your menu?
floral shard
Yeah, the one with pressing M or in the menu
fair vessel
You need NPC Map Locations mod (SVE version) for that
floral shard
I got that but it doesn't seem to be taking effect
fair vessel
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
floral shard
let me try to uninstall/reinstall the mod and I'll grab the logs if it doesn't work
gray yew
i finally found the solution to the custom music problem. although i had audio coming in, it didn't like which output i had set. i switched it to another that also gives audio to my headset, and there were no errors with all 29 mods installed.
fair vessel
@floral shard looks like the problem is Farm Extended overwriting the map changes
floral shard
anything for me to disable in the config?
fair vessel
Not sure, you'd have to check
restive zodiac
Could probably set a dependency on it in NPCMapLocations...
fair vessel
nope - not if NPC Map Locations is registering its IAssetEditor in Entry
floral shard
it does look like there is a map there but I'm not sure if changing it to "false" will disable it
fair vessel
What does the config.json show?
floral shard
fair vessel
It's the first part
floral shard
how would I disable that?
fair vessel
Delete or comment out the first patch
Everything between the first { and } after Changes
(including the trailing comma)
...
"Changes": [
/*{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "LooseSprites/map",
"FromFile": "assets/map.png"
},*/
...```Like that
floral shard
delete it or have the /?
fair vessel
Either exactly as I put it
Or just delete the whole grey section
floral shard
that fixed it, thank you! and thank you for making it so easy to follow your instructions too c:
thorny salmon
Coming back to the game since July -- did PFM replace CFR completely? Should I just be using PFM going forward?
restive zodiac
If you mean using other people's mods you should use whatever the mod you're downloading requires :) Most should have been converted to PFM by now. For making new ones, PFM is the way forward yeah.
thorny salmon
okay sounds good -- the JsonAssets mods I was using like More Trees etc have all been converted since my absence so I was confused when the acronyms had all changed
serene marsh
Anyone ever have issues with Content Patcher mods on Linux (debian bullseye/sid, linux 5.7.0-3-amd64, mono version 6.12.0.90)?
I can run and play Stardew fine with mods like UI Info Suite or CJB cheats/item spawner. I installed SVE today and it kept causing issues, and I narrowed it down to crashing only when Eemie's recolor mod, Seasonal Villager Outfits or SVO for SVE mods are installed. Without them, the game runs fine.
The game crashes either on startup (with the Eemie recolor mod and SVE installed) or when I exit and enter buildings (with SVE and SVO mod installed). When I don't have SVE installed, the game doesn't seem to crash. (yet, I'm still trying to fully diagnose it)
SMAPI log (SMAPI-latest.txt - no crash file is ever produced):
https://smapi.io/log/84af4d871682430f9d88fe84dae8c984
gdb crash log (appears in the SMAPI window during the crash)
https://pastebin.com/sCvueTBV
pastel arch
I wonder how people debug languages that run on a VM using gdb, in general.
Don't see anything useful from it, but I am by no means an expert