and one of my cliffs is messed up
#archived-modded-support
dusty leaf
gentle glen
@daring wagon how many files are there
dusty leaf
oh definitely haha
restive zodiac
!rtf
native dragonBOT
Reset Terrain Features (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4715) is a mod that allows you to reset, clear, or generate everything that spawns on a map via an in-game menu. This is especially useful when changing maps mid-save, as the debris will still use the old layout (causing things like trees in the water or bushes blocking exits) until reset.
dusk gull
Ah okay thanks @restive zodiac , I'll be more careful with it in future!
daring wagon
Follow the steps in that and you should be ok. Let us know if you have a problem with any of them.
gentle glen
i have them already but they are in their own folder
restive zodiac
@dusk gull At one point we had a rash of broken saves from an out of date editor, so I may just be over cautious if one is up to date, but at same time when I can open in text editor it's easier for me to just do that ๐
daring wagon
@gentle glen was your old copy of SVE in just one folder?
gentle glen
i'm not sure
daring wagon
Ok. Then you'll need to check your mods folder for the rest of SVE
gentle glen
how would i do that than
daring wagon
Look for anything with Stardew Valley Expanded on it, like [CM] Stardew Valley Expanded, [JA] Stardew Valley Expanded...
gentle glen
i have that on my desk top
daring wagon
But not in your mods folder?
gentle glen
when i download it and open it i had to do it on my desk top for some reason cause the files didn't want to show up
daring wagon
Ok. If that is the version you just downloaded, put all of those into your mods folder.
gentle glen
i haven't load the new one that was the time i download it before this up date
daring wagon
Ok, download the newest update and try to put that into your mods folder, please.
I love the background on your last screenshot! It is beautiful.
daring wagon
Ok, did you put those in your mods folder? If not, go ahead and do that.
azure tusk
do u have teh stardew expanded map
if it didnt work get sve npc ma locations
its here but go down to bottom and the n find sve version of it https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/239
restive zodiac
(It looks like they're asking about multiple versions of mod talking about needing updates, and Halla is working with them on figuring it out :) If there ends up being a problem with playing the game, we would get a log to see what is needed.)
azure tusk
ok cool
azure tusk
bruh
daring wagon
Ok, let's do that. Do you need help with that step?
gentle glen
this time it went where i wanted it to go which is my download is where i extart all my mods that way i know where they are
than i put them in the mod folder , yes i know pc is weird
daring wagon
๐ good
gentle glen
what goes in what folder
daring wagon
Each of those things in the download should go inside your mods folder. You don't need to make a new folder or anything, just put all of those inside the mods folder.
daring wagon
No, they don't go in the (Stardew Valley Expanded) or StardewValleyExpanded folders. Do you have another folder that says something like Stardew Valley Expanded inside your mods folder?
If you have anything that says Stardew Valley Expanded in your mods folder right now, delete it before you put the updated version in.
daring wagon
Is everything in the second screenshot inside the folder in the first screenshot?
daring wagon
Ok. Can you tell me what that screenshot is showing? Are you showing me your mods folder before you put the Stardew Valley Expanded update inside it?
gentle glen
which one hun
daring wagon
The second screenshot
daring wagon
I'm impressed that you have so many mods, but I don't know why you're showing me the screenshots, sorry.
Did you already put the update into your mods folder?
fair vessel
It would be helpful if you didn't crop the screenshots so much - let us see not just the folders but also their file location at the same time 
gentle glen
i haven't put anything in a folder
primal arrow
https://prnt.sc/u0niv6
@gentle glen You have SVE folders spread into your Mods folder. The SVE guide details which folders it installs, therefore which one you should delete before updating
@gentle glen You have SVE folders spread into your Mods folder. The SVE guide details which folders it installs, therefore which one you should delete before updating
@primal arrow Hang on a sec for the list...
daring wagon
Thanks, y'all. I need to run off for dinner, but it looks like there are several people here who can maybe help you better, @gentle glen . I think we may just not be understanding each other very well.
gentle glen
I don't have SVE Folder
primal arrow
@primal arrow Hang on a sec for the list...
@primal arrow https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Install-guide
Here you find instructions for installing / uninstalling SVE
https://prnt.sc/u0niv6
@gentle glen Here I see at least two SVE folders
gentle glen
i'm Delete both and be done with the mod
primal arrow
[CP] Stardew Valley Expanded
CustomMusic
CustomNPCFixes
[FTM] Stardew Valley Expanded
[JA] Stardew Valley Expanded
StardewValleyExpanded
[SVE] Andy
[SVE] Custom Music
[SVE] Marlon
[SVE] Morris
[SVE] Olivia
[SVE] Sophia
[SVE] Susan
[SVE] Victor
[TMX] Stardew Valley Expanded Locations
[TMX] SVE NPCs
These above are the folders @gentle glen
gentle glen
@primal arrow i just updated the mod i'm supposed to have them in (Stardew Valley Expanded Folder) or the other one i have or they just have their own
dire fractal
https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Install-guide explains it pretty well, but in short - each stardew valley expanded mod piece (each directory inside the zip archive) should be inside your mods directory.
(Stardew Valley Expanded) is one of those pieces, so it should be in mods. [CM] Stardew Valley Expanded is another separate piece, so it also goes in the mods directory, etc.
gentle glen
@primal arrow when i extract the the file but i dont see some things you listed
primal arrow
@primal arrow when i extract the the file but i dont see some things you listed
@gentle glen These are from an old version of SVE, they might have been deleted. If I understand your issue, you tried to update SVE but it failed because of duplicate files right?
gentle glen
i have just updated today for the new verison
primal arrow
My suggestion would be to delete everything related to SVE, old and new, see if SMAPI loads without errors and then unzip again the new version
gentle glen
that what i was trying find out
primal arrow
that what i was trying find out
@gentle glen ๐ tell me if it works
gentle glen
@primal arrow [CP] Stardew Valley Expanded
CustomMusic
CustomNPCFixes
[FTM] Stardew Valley Expanded
[JA] Stardew Valley Expanded
StardewValleyExpanded
[SVE] Andy
[SVE] Custom Music
[SVE] Marlon
[SVE] Morris
[SVE] Olivia
[SVE] Sophia
[SVE] Susan
[SVE] Victor
[TMX] Stardew Valley Expanded Locations
[TMX] SVE NPCs these are ones i need to delete
primal arrow
@primal arrow [CP] Stardew Valley Expanded
CustomMusic
CustomNPCFixes
[FTM] Stardew Valley Expanded
[JA] Stardew Valley Expanded
StardewValleyExpanded
[SVE] Andy
[SVE] Custom Music
[SVE] Marlon
[SVE] Morris
[SVE] Olivia
[SVE] Sophia
[SVE] Susan
[SVE] Victor
[TMX] Stardew Valley Expanded Locations
[TMX] SVE NPCs these are ones i need to delete
@gentle glen Should be, yes. Check also for any other folder prepended with [SVE] and other folders with "Stardew Valley Expanded" in them
lone dragon
i believe i found an issue with mod updater
seems that that it doesnt quiet load on linux
shy orbit
seems to be reported few times on nexus
gentle glen
@primal arrow i got my Stardew Valley Expanded working
@primal arrow i have some Yellow Text [Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Campari', producer 'Still' and input 'Bitter Orange'. This rule will be ignored.
[Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Champagne', producer 'Keg' and input 'Champagne Grape'. This rule will be ignored.
[Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Pistachio Ice Cream', producer 'Ice Cream Machine' and input 'Pistachio'. This rule will be ignored.
[Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Champagne Vinegar', producer 'Vinegar Cask' and input 'Champagne Grape'. This rule will be ignored.
strange plinth
Hey guys, good night. I'm having some problems with my Stardew Valley Expanded. I was playing for days in a Coop, but then a error start to happen everytime that I try to get in a Coop. Can you help me? I have no idea of what is causing this: https://smapi.io/log/092d8e6b9d4c4e25a6717c385100aa67
primal arrow
@primal arrow i have some Yellow Text [Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Campari', producer 'Still' and input 'Bitter Orange'. This rule will be ignored.
[Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Champagne', producer 'Keg' and input 'Champagne Grape'. This rule will be ignored.
[Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Pistachio Ice Cream', producer 'Ice Cream Machine' and input 'Pistachio'. This rule will be ignored.
[Producer Framework Mod] No Output found for 'Champagne Vinegar', producer 'Vinegar Cask' and input 'Champagne Grape'. This rule will be ignored.
@gentle glen Good!!
These warnings belong to another mod, not SVE (the producer framework mod)
shy orbit
and the warnings are nothing to worry about unless you're supposed to have those items
strange plinth
gentle glen
@primal arrow should i just ingore it than or no
primal arrow
@primal arrow should i just ingore it than or no
@gentle glen As Vibel said, unless you are supposed to have those items you can ignore the message
Hey guys, good night. I'm having some problems with my Stardew Valley Expanded. I was playing for days in a Coop, but then a error start to happen everytime that I try to get in a Coop. Can you help me? I have no idea of what is causing this: https://smapi.io/log/092d8e6b9d4c4e25a6717c385100aa67
@strange plinth Coop means a chicken coop? Did you update / add /remove any mod from when if worked to now?
slender egret
does anyone know if its a problem w ui info suite that only some items show for bundles? i just started playing w my friends on a new farm and some things show the bundle that they are a part of but other things dont. (ie: dandelion showing for "spring foraging" but sardines not showing for "ocean fish" bundle)
ashen elbow
you havent unlocked the bundle im guessing
ashen elbow
ye np
slender egret
we havent unlocked the community center yet we started like 30 mins ago so i was wondering if it was bugged or not
ty
ashen elbow
yeah the craft room bundle is unlocked from the start
gentle glen
@primal arrow i found the mod that was giving the yellow text
lapis void
i think they're referring to multiplayer, co-op?
ashen elbow
yeah
strange plinth
I was playing with someone else Co-op. I add the SkullCavernElevator. I tryd to delete the mod files, but the error remains.
@strange plinth Coop means a chicken coop? Did you update / add /remove any mod from when if worked to now?
@primal arrow
lapis void
are you hosting the game or is someone else? is everyone in the game using the same mods?
silent fjord
@strange plinth Coop means a chicken coop? Did you update / add /remove any mod from when if worked to now?
@primal arrow Co-op, and I'm hosting. He has some mods that i dont have.
lapis void
!mpmods
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F for details on how mods work in multiplayer. :)
lapis void
can we get a log from you as well manu?
primal arrow
@primal arrow Co-op, and I'm hosting. He has some mods that i dont have.
@silent fjord Can you try installing his same mods? Probably an object from a mod you don't have is interfering with loading the save
Otherwise @silent fjord you can try passing the save files to @strange plinth and see if he can load the save
silent fjord
can we get a log from you as well manu?
@lapis void https://smapi.io/log/52c997ed963d44c3b2c5b60be9f101ef
lapis void
if you want to get rid of that yellow text, i believe those items are from Champagne Wishes which you either don't have installed or don't have fully installed. but the yellow text is not an error, it's just letting you know that a mod you use has a compatibility patch with another mod you're not using. does that make sense? @gentle glen
strange plinth
@silent fjord Can you try installing his same mods? Probably an object from a mod you don't have is interfering with loading the save
@primal arrow We tryd that, but I became her character, hahaha! It works. Also if she delete my character and I started a new one, I can play. But when we closed the game and try to acess the charactere again, the error shows up.
gentle glen
@lapis void ty i totally forget about that one thanks for reminder
lapis void
hmm, could it be a bugged item in your inventory? that would be accessible from the dresser in your character's cabin when you're not in game, so manu could check it for you
silent fjord
@silent fjord Can you try installing his same mods? Probably an object from a mod you don't have is interfering with loading the save
@primal arrow We are trying this now, thanks.
lapis void
i'm on mobile and can't load logs super well so i haven't looked carefully, but that can also be an issue in multiplayer that will prevent a farmhand from joining
could also be in a chest in his house
(if it is that, often the item to look for is honey for some reason, so if he has a jar of honey in his inventory or house throwing that out might do the trick)
silent fjord
hmm, could it be a bugged item in your inventory? that would be accessible from the dresser in your character's cabin when you're not in game, so manu could check it for you
@lapis void Will also try this now, thanks
gentle glen
@lapis void i look for Champagne Wishes for some reason it must have not install grr at these mods
opaque eagle
any good mods bnesides the expanded one?
ashen elbow
well
lapis void
!modrecs
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
ashen elbow
i also have a list of mods that i like to use,,
opaque eagle
tyty
dire fractal
An error occured in the base update loop: System.MissingMethodException: No parameterless constructor defined for this object.
my game can't be saved help me farmers.
ashen elbow
uh oh
lone dragon
looks like its a mulitplayer/network issue
primal arrow
An error occured in the base update loop: System.MissingMethodException: No parameterless constructor defined for this object.
@dire fractal Any new /updated /deleted mod? Is this with using SaveAnywhere or when sleeping?
fair vessel
@dire fractal try updating Custom Farming Redux to the unofficial update, for a start
silent fjord
hmm, could it be a bugged item in your inventory? that would be accessible from the dresser in your character's cabin when you're not in game, so manu could check it for you
@lapis void
@silent fjord Can you try installing his same mods? Probably an object from a mod you don't have is interfering with loading the save
@primal arrow
Neither worked.
He wasnt able to open his character, but we are able (and always was) of creating a new one. The funny thing is that we are able to save, close and open the game afterwards without problem, but the more time pases, more are the chances that he wont be able to open. We even tryied to let the game open forever, but his crashed after a couple of hours byitself.
I honestly dont know what to do anymore, we are currently on character eight. You guys are our last hope.
Otherwise we will have to go back to vanilla. Well, he will. kkk
dapper fulcrum
I've decided to try reaccumulating my mods I've lost (all of them), so I've begun searching and uhhh.... Wasn't there an MTN2?
restive zodiac
@dapper fulcrum https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2256?tab=files Not updated since that I know of, though Pickles worked on it on and off for awhile, and it still has some bugs. Also if you use FHR and MTN at the same time your house will disappear, hehe.
torn mason
okay if anyone is more familiar with conversation topics, im stumped 
I've confirmed that it is added to activeDialogueEvents, and the Dialogues have been loaded into the NPC's Dialogue class successfully, and the key to the dialogue are identical to the dialogue event
but it just won't get pushed into CurrentDialogue
lone dragon
latest child to npc unofficial crashes, and get glam crashed after loading two hairstyles not sure what caused it
dapper fulcrum
wait I thought that said FTM for some reason. What's FHR?
deep totem
okay if anyone is more familiar with conversation topics, im stumped
could it be it that the waether is rainy or a location specific dialogue is active?
fair vessel
@torn mason are you checking same-day or next day? I've heard conflicting accounts of whether same-day conversation topic keys are loaded into NPC dialogue (and been too busy testing other things to really test it myself)
Also what's your dialogue key?
torn mason
"AquariumDonated:Legend"
im also doing some digging into the code
and im kind of realizing that it might only load for NPCs you have friendship data with
and this is an anti-social
torn mason
checkForNewCurrentDialogue is where it actually checks for activeDialogueEvents to add the dialogue, and I can't find any other code that does that
and the only places that method gets called is inside a if (who.friendshipData.ContainsKey(this.Name))
fair vessel
Or for NPCs you can have friendship data with I presume?
Because in the first week of the game, you don't have friendship with anyone, and yet you go around seeing their Introduction dialogues
(or does the friendship data and points get added before the dialogue gets chosen when you chat them up?)
Are non-friendable vanilla NPCs inconsistent in whether they have dialogue files, or some other reason why it might have been coded that way? ๐ค
torn mason
i checked and all the Dialogue got loaded in properly, when I debug and check the anti social NPC's class it's all there
but double checking friendshipData it only contains NPCs you've met so I do wonder how the intro event is done
lone dragon
so, i figured out why get glam was crashing (Aquas hair pack was crashing it when i corrected the file name) but now the other hair pack i have is uhhh not loading properly, its either blad or part of a furnite piece
pretty sure an entire dresser is not hair
restive zodiac
@dapper fulcrum Farmhouse Redone.
dapper fulcrum
Ah, thanks much
fair vessel
but double checking friendshipData it only contains NPCs you've met so I do wonder how the intro event is done
@torn mason it might well be that the friendship data changes are just applied first, then
torn mason
good/bad news, I removed the anti social flags, met the npcs, slept a night, convo topic was still running
still nothing
so it's not the antisocial NPC
fair vessel
Darn. I was in the process of suggesting, as a workaround if it was the antisocial NPC, you could conditionally load in some $1 command dialogues with a shared letter id for the curator, have them give the same desired response in the first slot (though you can't use @ replacer there) and varied other dialogues in the backup slots.
Could it be something in the key maybe? Does it not like : perhaps?
(oh geez I hope it's okay with . and -, those are eeeeverywhere in my data entry shit lol)
torn mason
it would be weird if it didn't since that's just... using a key as a string
lone dragon
while at this, has time also been normal inside buildings? or did it at one point freeze when your inside like it does in menus
fair vessel
I think it's always been normal? ๐ค But I'm not sure. You could comb through the big list of changelogs to see if it's mentioned anywhere
lone dragon
not showing, maybe ive never noticed it
restive zodiac
(Cherry is going to be disoriented when they check channel name :D)
ashen elbow
wh
dire fractal
(Making things is a kind of use for them. Kinda.)
torn mason
.....oops
restive zodiac
("where am I... Who am I... How did I get here 
" is what I imagined :D)
lone dragon
so apparently niether of my getglam hair packs are loading properly
sorting hair is hard
cedar flare
Hello! What does Invalidated 24 asset names (Data/NPCGiftTastes, Data/ObjectInformation, LooseSprites/Cursors, LooseSprites/Cursors2, LooseSprites/daybg, LooseSprites/nightbg, Maps/DesertTiles, Maps/DesertTiles_Extended, Maps/fall_town, Maps/fall_z_extras, Maps/Festivals, Maps/MenuTiles, Maps/spring_z_extras, Maps/Stadium, Maps/VanillaCraftables, Maps/VanillaFurniture, Maps/VanillaSpringObjects, Maps/VanillaWallsAndFloors, Maps/zcompactbathroom_tiles, Maps/z_CastleVillage, Maps/z_RailwayTilesheet, Maps/z_SVEbuildingShadow, Minigames/TitleButtons, TileSheets/fruitTrees); propagated 9 core assets. mean? It didn't show up as an error in my log (https://smapi.io/log/841954109f0d454cb7f91114c5e15333) but my game froze and I had to force quit it.
fair vessel
That just happens whenever mod(s) need to check if something might have changed to load different patches for.
It's probably not what froze your game, whatever came next probably did.
cedar flare
Hmm, the only thing that came next was Json Assets edited Characters/Farmer/shoeColors. repeats [3] times.
fair vessel
Really hard to say then. No clues in that log really. You might need to disable groups of mods to narrow it down trial and error
(renaming the folder of a mod to start with . will disable it)
lone dragon
i think its just saying that those files dont exist as assets
seems like whoever made it did not name them according to the language of the game they made it for
as far as the shoe colours, seems like you have multiple mods that change the shoe colours file
torn mason
invalidating assets is a perfectly normal occurence that happens as a part of regular asset handling and is not an error in any way
So that's not anything to be concerned about
lone dragon
really? ive never seen at all
cedar flare
Ok, thanks everyone! My game has been freezing non-stop so I thought I had finally figured out what was wrong with it ๐
torn mason
It's usually in Trace
rapid drum
renaming a folder to start with . disables it??
torn mason
There's an option to see Trace in the SMAPI console but it's off by default, so most users will never see it
rapid drum
does renaming a folder with anything else disable it? @_@; i was renaming things to force load order
lone dragon
having a folder with "." in front hides it
so in my linux home directory, multiple files are named with "." in front, ie stuff like ".wine" this is because its normally the developer or whoever decides it should be hidden from normal view so people that dont know what their doing dont mess with it and ruin the system
dapper fulcrum
heyo, having trouble remembering a mod's name.
it's the thing we're supposed to use now instead of More Animals?
torn mason
Adopt and skin
late nebula
That too
cedar flare
Does anyone know if BetterArtisanGoodIcons is compatible with SVE? It doesn't mention it on the mod page
dapper fulcrum
That's it, Cherry. But I will probably get BFAV also. ty ty
late nebula
Totally forgot about it even though I use it
fair vessel
it's fine
torn mason
Be aware that if you're gonna get BFAV, to get the unofficial update
jovial jacinth
I'm having an issue with SVE. I can't even load the game without it crashing in the command. I see someone else had the issue on Nexus but they haven't been answered yet. https://smapi.io/log/918d6a4717364b288c25ae73978ce43b
torn mason
The author of BFAV has been missing since before 1.4
pastel arch
@jovial jacinth Try updating GMCM (see top of log for the link)
dapper fulcrum
gotcha
jovial jacinth
gmcm?
late nebula
@cedar flare I'm pretty sure it's compatible. Are you getting an error?
jovial jacinth
@pastel arch It worked! Thank you so much
cedar flare
@late nebula I haven't been getting errors, but I'm trying to figure out what could be causing my game to freeze/lag - I've removed it temporarily and will see if it works!
late nebula
Feel free to upload a smapi log. Someone here might be able to give you some insight. My game was lagging the other day and it was all the animations I had downloaded.
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
pastel arch
Phea has uploaded many I think, all with no helpful info ๐
cedar flare
I've uploaded a bunch of logs in the past few days trying to figure it out to no avail, but thank you for letting me know! I think I just might have a lot of mods that are overloading my computer - I'll remove some for now and see if it works better
late nebula
Ah okay.
native dragonBOT
@late nebula You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!
late nebula
I only scrolled back a little.
pastel arch
(In general though, asking for logs is the right thing! :))
dapper fulcrum
well, I got 117 of my mods back, I think I should be ok for now
lone dragon
huh, i managed to fix the Get glam hair, but now sailor styles hair isnt working
dapper fulcrum
this is a longshot but do any of you guys recall a mod that had various little tweaks? It was supposed to prevent screen flicker and the empty dialogue boxes some NPCs occasionally have. Also did something with wallpapers, I think??
gentle glen
Champagne Wishes mod i know need other mod that go with it but would if effect other mods i have
lone dragon
anybody happen to know where martyrpher has been? seems Getglam doesnt account for mods that add their own styles
lapis void
martyr has been super busy irl unfortunately :( he's ok just has no time for modding atm
lone dragon
Ah, so i guess i need to just dupe the hairstyles, make it for getglam and then hope it doesnt conflict
dapper fulcrum
oh, one last question
can you use A&S with BFAV animals?
If you can, how do you do that
Otherwise, is there a way to give animals a variety of skins within BFAV itself?
fair vessel
I don't know if you can, but if you can it would just be by following the general A&S naming scheme with the name of the new animal types, I imagine ๐ค
shy orbit
and if that doesn't work, you can create multiple types of the same animal with different skins in the BFAV content pack content.json
dapper fulcrum
awesome, thanks for the replies
naive drum
A&S on my game has a note that a lot of my animals don't have any extra skins and the list includes all my BFAV animals
shy orbit
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
lone dragon
is it possible to use "\" in configs to open stuff up?
shy orbit
hmmh, i guess that needs to be reported to pathos
but he isn't present right now it seems
modest sigil
Yes, Its okay I can wait whenever
lone dragon
so it doesnt seem you can use "Ins" or "\"
shy orbit
what are you trying to do?
lone dragon
change the open command for the mobile phone to something in the top right of my keyboard because i dont have an end key
"Del" not work either :/
lone dragon
ah okay
so i need to do the full names
also nice to see that the ps3 controller is supported with the ps4 key bindings
rapid drum
your smapi is supposed to make sound?
rapid drum
ohhh
dire fractal
but i cant hear any game sound
ashen elbow
did,, you turn the sound in the game off,,?
ashen elbow
well im not a tech expert so idk
dire fractal
its working
shy orbit
swift radish
is there any way to just temporarily disable a mod?
rapid drum
drop it outside of your mod folder
like onto your desktop
oh! or put . in front of the folder name
(I learned a thing today)
swift radish
thats exactly what i was looking for
thx
dont wanna get tempted to use the item spawner, only want to enable it when im desperate
restive zodiac
One thing that's nice is that it works on a subfolders full of mods too, so you can have a .disabled folder and move whole groups of them into it quickly for testing if needed...
@obsidian frost Hey there, this is the channel for getting help using mods :) There's a pretty good player guide here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide - you'd start with installing SMAPI. Feel free to ask if you get stuck or some instruction is not clear!
wind plover
Hellooo ๐ I've noticed a bug for the Shop Anywhere mod and I've posted a post on the posts and bugs page of the mod. Is there anywhere else I should report it?
timber spire
I know the SMAPI log tells you whenever you have an update available for one of your mods but having this is pretty neat too!:)
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2536?tab=files&file_id=29781
wraith bison
A lot neater. Makes getting to the mod page faster than copying and pasting from the log
timber spire
^yep
silent fjord
Hey guys, good night. I'm having some problems with my Stardew Valley Expanded. I was playing for days in a Coop, but then a error start to happen everytime that I try to get in a Coop. Can you help me? I have no idea of what is causing this: https://smapi.io/log/092d8e6b9d4c4e25a6717c385100aa67
@strange plinth Someone on can try to help us, please?
strange plinth
native dragonBOT
@strange plinth Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
final inlet
so im having some issues with json assets after updating spacechase0
heres the log, and i would appreciate any help figuring out whats going on
(another big log bc im getting repeat errors from json assets)
final inlet
yeahhhhh
over 2000 of them
all my mods are up to date except cannabis kit bc thats a beta
final inlet
eemies melons is up to date, im assuming theres just an error in the manifest
final inlet
okay i know i have duplicates in pottery kiln, but where are the others?
sorry i have a hard time reading through big walls of text like this
shy orbit
it looks like JA is loading two versions of the pottery mod, 1.0.5 and 1.0.2
final inlet
okay it looks like that fixed everything, thanks vibel!
grizzled spire
I've got a question I'm hoping has an answer. Is there a mod (or a way to make a mod) that will tie the game time to realtime? So if it's 9am for me it's 9am in the game and so on?
rain lava
doesn't sound like a good idea. Are you supposed to play whole day irl? Or if you end day early in game by going to sleep the next day wouldn't be synchronized ( unless you want the game to somehow stop you from playing till next irl morning )
fair vessel
I think I've seen a mod like that
But it doesn't sound like it would work well at all for Stardew Valley, as a game.
You'd run out of energy and things to do really fast, it's be boring as heck
If you're just looking for a mod that slows the game down, try Casual Life or TimeSpeed.
pearl jewel
my mods folder is missing and didnt get installed with smapi
fair vessel
Sounds like the install got botched
pearl jewel
oof
fair vessel
Can you rerun the installer?
When you do, make sure the folder with the installer is not located in the game folder
Put it on desktop or somewhere like that
heavy sail
I might need a lil bit of help with this...
So I use Standardized Krobus and Eirenel's Krobus + KrobusPortraits by HistoriaFoda, and the normal sprite and portrait work fine, but his trenchcoat outfit gets all glitchy.
ashen elbow
screenshot?
heavy sail
Crud, uh... give me a minute, I have to try to invite him to the movies.
ashen elbow
uh oh
heavy sail
I really need to cut down on mods... give me 10 minutes (it takes a while to load)
ashen elbow
lol
heavy sail
SMAPI 3.6.1 - running Stardew Valley 1.4.5 with 500 mods
ashen elbow
uh oh
heavy sail
it's always json assets making it take so long 
dire fractal
With the power of flower meads mod my horrible, awful beehive of bee houses is going to drown stardew valley in mead. Muahahaha
heavy sail
Of course it's Friday. Give me a little longer @ashen elbow
sharp belfry
these are rookie numbers
heavy sail
I mean, 500 mods and a 2017 computer, it takes like 20 to load.
ashen elbow
fyckin
heavy sail
And 5 more for the save 
dire fractal
(Itโs a little off topic, but) I have 27 mods in mc on a one block sky block world in hardcore
fair vessel
Wow, that's a horrifying amount of lag 
ashen elbow
uh oh
heavy sail
Yup, but surprisingly it doesn't lag after the game starts.
ashen elbow
mood
heavy sail
How the hell did Lewis get a truck with no roads in Pelican Town?
Better question, why did he get a truck?
dire fractal
XD
ashen elbow
yay,, 186 mods,, on a shitty laptop,,,
heavy sail
I'm surprised that out of 500 mods, only one made my game lag (Better Junimos on default settings)
ashen elbow
i have like,, 17 tabs open,, for mods,, and like,, a tab for hobo phoenix ,,
heavy sail
Uh... my only solution to making his trenchcoat work is by replacing the XNB, but I don't want to do that (otherwise I have to deal with a floating block)
Y'know what, I'll just make my own trenchcoat sprite for him.
dire fractal
I have 386 tabs open...
heavy sail
Woah there
crude oyster
Hello! Idk if anyone can help me but I downloaded a bunch of mods this morning and everything is working fine... but all my characters look like this when they move around ๐
dire fractal
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
ashen elbow
also like just a question, did you download any Xnb mods?
crude oyster
Iโm pretty sure I did
sharp belfry
!xnb
native dragonBOT
XNB mods often break the game and are not recommended. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for more info (and a list of Content Patcher alternatives), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files to fix problems caused by XNB mods. For mod creators, see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).
ashen elbow
well there arent any errors, so it's the xnb mods being funky
crude oyster
Yeah I wasn't seeing anything weird in smapi... would just deleting those files fix the problem?
also thx for the help!!
ashen elbow
deleting the xnb files will break your game if you don't have a backup
you can go in steam and verify game files (if u downloaded from steam)
fair vessel
Haha, looks like a portrait replacer mod got dropped into Characters instead of Portraits
crude oyster
So I know which files it was and I did create a backup and already deleted those files because they weren't working earlier. I guess I'll try the second fix
sharp belfry
the second link in what Governor wrote has instructions on what to do to get rid of xnb mods
crude oyster
@fair vessel yup ๐ฉ
ashen elbow
hgnhg willy
crude oyster
Thanks for the help everyone!
lone dragon
If you happen to like those xnb mods you can always convert to Content patcher on your own
dire fractal
For automation mod is it possible to put a tile in front of stove to connect to the rest and have access to all ingredients? Or am I doing this wrong...
ashen elbow
uh
fair vessel
Use mini fridges
You can buy them from Robin, if placed anywhere in the main floor of your house they will automatically link ingredients to the cooking menu
Automate mod isn't useful for the cooking menu, since that's not a machine
dire fractal
Oh ok I do have 1 in that image next to the joja cola fridge
fair vessel
Yeah Automate is just for automating machines that take an input and spend time before producing an output.
Cooking menu is different, you activate it yourself and there's no time requirement
I don't think I've yet seen an mod that makes general cooking recipe machines... though that would be pretty cool
dire fractal
I find it odd that some ingredients don't light up when I go to the stove but others do, like cave carrots, I have around 60 but when I want to cook something with it say of the 4 ingredients that's the only one not highlighted
fair vessel
Are the cave carrots in the fridge or mini fridge?
dire fractal
in one of the chests that's the thing
fair vessel
Yeah so that's what I said, you need to use mini fridges to have things accessible when cooking
(or just hold them in your inventory)
There is also a mod out there that makes chests in the kitchen work like mini fridges, but I forget what it's called
dire fractal
Oh I see then I should look for that mod or have all my chests converted to mini fridges
haha
fair vessel
Yup
dire fractal
cool beans thanks much
clear terrace
anyone know the hotkey for the noclip mod?
tired apex
F11
clear terrace
thank you
daring wagon
@dire fractal Remote Fridge Storage lets you use any chests as if they were mini fridges. Useful ๐
cursive wharf
Can someone link me to the 'mod suggestions' forum again? I fear I've lost the link!
wheat pine
Its pinned
warm sluice
Are there any character mods you guys would recommend in addition to SVE?
tired apex
I do know Lenne has a lot in her Google doc
split nacelle
i have lenne's recs bookmarked 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_qmtiO74ENg99aDL97xhLjVawV5pQLQtmHCidLTnbRc/edit
torn mason
both lemurkat and fellowclown's NPCs have a lot of content and are really well done
tired apex
she's the reason my mods folder launched from 80 to 164 เฒ _เฒ
split nacelle
^same 
tired apex
Had to make my own doc file just to keep track
split nacelle
i was thinking of doing that too, but haven't got to it
tired apex
I just went through my nexus downloads and sorted them that way
split nacelle
i was gonna sparse my log and go from there
i think im good right now with 227 mods, ive stopped adding and actually play the game now
tired apex
warm sluice
Thanks
tired apex
^-^
fair vessel
@cursive wharf do you mean this? https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas/issues
cursive wharf
h, thank you!
warm sluice
Are you sure Lenne's recs work with SVE?
median eagle
https://smapi.io/log/5cf1f6b912454561a70cad725b4a7e8d can someone tell me why its skipping mods? (I had to update everything cause my game transferred to a new computer and forced it to update already now i need help)
heavy sail
You have duplicate mods and an XNB mod, which causes the mods skipping.
fair vessel
@warm sluice not all of them do, but most do
median eagle
thanks
also...weirdly when my save transferred some of my buildings and items were lost :\
warm sluice
Does Penny Expanded work with SVE?
dire fractal
Are you sure Lenne's recs work with SVE?
https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Troubleshooting#incompatible-mods has some general info on things that will or won't work, and some known incompatibilities
late jay
Anyone know what Sophia's loved gifts are in SVE
dire fractal
In the current version, only fairy stone.
late jay
alrighty then gonna go break open 100000 geodes right quick
dire fractal
crystalarium ftw as soon as you can (or community bundle for it)
late jay
true forgot about those
dire fractal
Likes:
median eagle
what happened to my pig area where I had my bunnies
rugged hazel
Real quick question for anyone willing to answer. Just got into modding Stardew and I am on the Vortex client.
Trying to like download the requirements for one mod and has a massive list of them. Any possible way to download all the required mods at once or do I have to go through each one; one by one?
heavy sail
One by one
late jay
yea
rugged hazel
Yea. Been beating the game and replaying it, but I finally got into the modding scene thanks to a bud
So.. Trying it out. See if its fun or not
heavy sail
@rugged hazel Just a short notice, you may use Vortex if you like, but there have been reports of bugs when trying to mod SDV with Vortex.
rugged hazel
... Glad you said something right no @heavy sail
Just downloaded Vortex like maybe an hour ago before i started downloading mods
median eagle
fffffffffff I need to edit the text files again
dire fractal
Bugs in this case means the mod manager trying to do mod manager things, but it's built to solve angry, hateful bethesda modding, and stardew is a different and simpler beast.
rugged hazel
Ugh... So Manually getting the files it is then
dire fractal
So it obfuscates or overwrites some things you don't need it to, and that produces weird or broken sometimes, depending on the mods.
rugged hazel
Oooh booi
lone dragon
Stardew is basically drag and drop with light text edits
native dragonBOT
@lone dragon You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now talk in our VC chats!
fair vessel
It's more complicated than most people need for Stardew modding, basically.
You can literally just drag and drop folders for stardew for 99% of mods and they'll work fine
(and most of the other 1% you oughtn't to be using)
median eagle
Can someone edit the input output files by changing how long it takes using 5-10 in game minutes please ;3; the process is painstakingly annoying for me
rugged hazel
Stardew is basically drag and drop with light text edits
@lone dragon So im not going to basically die when trying to figure out how to mod this?
Cause uhhh... Legit just wanna drag and drop stuff where its suppose to go
fair vessel
Just make sure you avoid XNB mods - anything that goes into your game Content folder is 
Stick to mods that work with smapi and go in the Mods folder
rugged hazel
Oh ok. Lol. Been avoiding XNB mods since the wiki said avoid them like the plague
dire fractal
Nah, this is super simple. Install SMAPI -> put mods in mod directory -> add dependency mods if they need them -> if you run into issues, throw a log on https://smapi.io/log and post the link here and people can help out. ๐
lone dragon
For xnb a simple content patcher/get glam/etc convert is what you should do
rugged hazel
Alright. If all I gotta do is drop all these mods into the Mods folder in my SMAPI, that doesn't seem bad
Just gotta uncompress them
lone dragon
For getglam, say hair, you need xnbcli and you need to grab the hair png and edit out the default/base hairs
Itll be the folder which has the manifest in it, so itll be nested like:
Stardew mod folder
Manifest and others
Some mods have multiple mods in them so gotta watch out for that
dire fractal
Something mildly confusing when you haven't done it and it becomes super easy pretty quick. ๐
rugged hazel
Its like a Pandora's box of mods within mods within mods.
lone dragon
Only a few mods i know does that
median eagle
is there a faster way to edit "Until is ready" line ;3; cause I have to keep scrolling on all of them
dire fractal
And then the orange gang will trick you into having 300 mods. and then some of the deep blues will trick you into having 700. and then you'll start making mods and stop playing and live in this and the above channel F O R E V E R
median eagle
lolol
rugged hazel
Making mods honestly sounds fun. I know some sprite artists friends and whatnot that might make that possible. Im game if you can change the in game model of the character.
Also the Producer Mod has like almost 300 mods in it alone... I swear.
fair vessel
Yup!
(The farmer spritesheets are just really complex so there's few mods that have done it)
An NPC spritesheet, for example
rugged hazel
Hmmm. How complex we talking for the farmer spritesheet?
fair vessel
One of the 4 farmer spritesheet variants. Does not include any clothing, hair, or accessories.
rugged hazel
Oooh! So to mod the farmer's spritesheet, you would literally have to make a solid, fluid sprite for basically every action in the entire game?
fair vessel
Pretty much
rugged hazel
Doesn't sound too bad
Sounds like a project but not like a "end my existence." type of deal
fair vessel
Yeah! Definitely feasible, just a lot of fiddly work.
There's an Anthro Farmer mod that does it to make the farmer a furry to match Anthro Characters NPCs
rugged hazel
But uhh... should I just delete Vortex now and just download all the mods manually?
There's an Anthro Farmer mod that does it to make the farmer a furry to match Anthro Characters NPCs
@fair vessel Excuse me? Where is this mod?
furry trash radars are blinking.
dire fractal
General recommendation seems to be manual is less trouble than vortex.
fair vessel
Yeah, but if you've already downloaded, installed and enabled stuff with Vortex you can probably just remove Vortex and it will leave whatever its already added to your Mods folder? ๐ค Not sure.
dire fractal
You'll want to (re)install smapi manually
rugged hazel
hmm... One way to find out
dire fractal
I think anyways
rugged hazel
Oh. I installed SMAPI without Vortex
But if i have to install it again due to me installing vortex, Hmmm... Doesn't seem too bad
dire fractal
If you installed SMAPI without vortex it's probably fine.
fair vessel
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1083 Anthro NPCs
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2561 looks like Anthro farmer mod is outdated, though
dire fractal
Just running the installer again though will magically clean things up for you. Pathos is a benevolent DFL
rugged hazel
So it might not work with the other compatible mods then @fair vessel
Or maybe? Idk...
fair vessel
It just seems to be broken for sdv 1.4
dire fractal
https://smapi.io/mods/ also has some info for things that aren't up to date for stardew 1.4 yet
and links to unofficial updates when they're around, usually
fair vessel
there isn't one, alas
Someone could probably make one without much trouble, I think it's a problem with the shirts options ever since tailoring was added
(ohhhhh, is that why people sometimes complain of colored blocks instead of shirts???)
files away for future reference
rugged hazel
Wait so if... all that needs to be changed is a couple sprite work for like a couple of things...
Hmmm... Is it possible to like download the mod, edit it and then repost it as like a fan edit or whatever?
dire fractal
Depends on the mod? Some modders may distribute things with terms that allow for modification and redistribution, others aren't ok with it.
Generally the mod page will tell you, or nexus I think has a license button somewhere where they can set if it's under CC0 or something
fair vessel
Generally the route to go would be to send the original author your fixed version (if they're still active)
Basically, all of the current shirt spritesheets in the mod that look like this
Need to be updated to work like this
dire fractal
Oh, for fixes? Yeah, send it to the author and let them decide. I thought it was a general reposting modifications Q. >_> Or if it's abandoned and you have the bandwidth you could offer to keep it updated and see what they say.
fair vessel
Or could you maybe just remove the patch that edits the shirt spritesheets at all? ๐ค Might look a little funny on some animal types
primal arrow
Depends on the mod? Some modders may distribute things with terms that allow for modification and redistribution, others aren't ok with it.
@dire fractal What about the unofficial updates?
lone dragon
isnt adding outfits and hair alot easier now? like its just JA and getglam
keen moss
Unofficial updates should only live on the forums & should be considered a last resort.
dire fractal
^^^^
They're taking a liberty at best, and the unofficial updates are basically "this won't work with SMAPI anymore" as far as I can tell.
primal arrow
Unofficial updates should only live on the forums & should be considered a last resort.
@keen moss Yes, maybe it's a viable option for this pack
keen moss
When 1.5 launches a bunch of unofficial updates will go out to get everything caught up but these will also be sent to the authors in case they want to update the page. If they do, theyโll be removed from the forums.
Which pack?
dire fractal
Every single one I've seen has been a forum post only with a note to the author that if they have any issue with it at all it will be removed.
keen moss
I havenโt read up since Iโve been busy.
primal arrow
Which pack?
@keen moss because I don't know names anymore. Don't mind me
rugged hazel
Mmmph. Not trying to step on anyone's toes and like do something unofficial or whatever
lone dragon
unofficial is usually if the creator is away, its a common mod, and its open source to an extent
or its like xnb to content patcher or getglam
you could also do what i do and just convert them for yourself 
rugged hazel
Oh no... am i learning the dark arts of modding?
Hmm. Should give the creator of the mod a poke if i can. See if they're active and if so, if they can just hand over the mod to me and me and some buds might be able to fix it up.
I don't know anything about modding SDV, but I am always willing to learn if it means helping myself and others. :V
lone dragon
usually stuff like converting is just editing the manifest a little (for versions and keeping credits and such) then changing the mod itself up a little so it works with newer stuff
fair vessel
Since it's a content patcher mod, no handing over is needed - all the files to create the mod are the same as the ones provided for download.
(oh, but if you mean handing over the page for posting updates, yeah. Good idea)
lone dragon
getglam and some JA is the same way, but a little more involved
rugged hazel
Another dumb question. When a something says "Mods Requiring this file" Does that mean that all of those mods are added in... or i should download each mod in that section one by one?
fair vessel
oh noooo haha
lone dragon
that means that another mod requires that
like say any content patcher mod needs content patcher
fair vessel
Requiring this file means that if you wanted one of those other mods, you would also need to get the one you're looking at
It's a good way to find specific types of mods
Like if I wanted to look for interesting Shop mods, I could look at the "Requiring this file" list on the Shop Tile Framework mod page
rugged hazel
so basically... im about to be downloading like 700+ mods cause...the Monster Crops mod I am looking at needs a "Jason Assets" mod... and that one in itself has like 70+ Mods in there.
rugged hazel
Oh thank god!
fair vessel
Not the bajillion other mods that also use Json Assets lol
rugged hazel
Duuude... I was legit about to download all these Bajillion other mods.
True hero today!
fair vessel
You would've had a bad time lol
Not all Json Assets mods are even compatible with each other
rugged hazel
Oh...
lone dragon
there are likely work arounds
rugged hazel
unique bolt
A while back, a mod maker suggested I come here for help with their mod. Here's the link to my post on Nexus. It looks like someone else had the same issue, too: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/6509871-elles-seasonal-buildings/page-49#entry83918553
split nacelle
hmm my house shows up as greenhouse for me, let me pull my config
!log @unique bolt can you share your log?
native dragonBOT
@unique bolt Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
unique bolt
This is the log I shared with them when I only had smapi/content patcher/elle's/deepwoods (so, this is before the newest smapi & content patcher update. I'm downloading smapi's update right now) https://smapi.io/log/1f1f8a654f4f4e619f8853fb615c520b
Internet is spotty, so apologies if a take a bit to reply
split nacelle
oh that's very weird, you don't even have a lot of mods for an incompatibility issue (and no worries!)
unique bolt
Yeah, the deepwoods is supposed to be compatible, and even when I removed deepwoods the Elle mod wouldn't work right
split nacelle
have you installed any xnb mods?
right, i have both of those without issues, they should work together
unique bolt
I don't think so, only the Elle and the Deepwoods one
split nacelle
maybe try deleting both and reinstalling with new downloads?
unique bolt
All right, I'll try that~
dire fractal
Before you delete it
could you throw your config.json file on here?
(I see the contents on nexus but I'm curious about something)
unique bolt
Regular config.json: https://notes.io/Mwgs
Config.user: https://notes.io/Mwgf
dire fractal
config.user? do elle's configs go somewhere besides the standard <mod directory>/config.json ?
split nacelle
it shouldnt be 
unique bolt
I was following this direction (I've never installed mods before, so it's possible I did it incorrect ๐ )
create a 'config.user.json' file in the same folder with *only* the settings you want to change.```
And the config file and the config.user file are both in common. Should I move them to Elle's folder?The one saying it's overwritten each time is the config for SMAPI, not elle's mod.
Inside the elle mod directory, a config.json will get automagically created the next time the game runs, if it's missing
then you can just close the game again and edit that file to adjust elle settings (most smapi mods with configs work this way)
unique bolt
Oooooooo, I got'cha
split nacelle
when you add elle's buildings, it should only have these files
ignore my mod folder name 
unique bolt
I see it ๐
dire fractal
So it's probably just using the raw defaults and ignoring that config.user file. The SMAPI updates will replace SMAPI's config.json file, but not the ones for each mod. ๐
unique bolt
Woooops, yeah, there are settings in it already. ๐
Okay~
I'll try it out. Thanks so much for the help so far ๐
split nacelle
mana, have you added new mods lately?
i saw this from the event archive, might add it ๐ https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6226?tab=description
dire fractal
I haven't yet, I've been trying to finish the steam achievements on my current playthrough so I'm vaguely trying to keep things stable until that's done 
split nacelle
thats fair, im planning on starting a vanilla save for the rest of the achievements, cause i would not be able to finish them on my current playthrough with all the recipe+fish mods
unique bolt
It woooorks~. Well all but the seasonal decorations, but I'll check into that after.~
Thanks so much for the help, everyone โค๏ธ
(I can't believe how painfully simple that was ๐ )
dire fractal
Woo!
unique bolt
๐
split nacelle
sometimes we just need another eye to double check 
sour steeple
Anyone here been using/have experience with the Longevity mod?
dire fractal
and the config.json for each mod not showing up until after the first run is a little counterintuitive at first.
unique bolt
It also takes seasoned vets when one has no idea what they're doing 
๐คญ
split nacelle
i didnt know i had to run the game for config files before since the mods i installed first already had them pre-installed
dire fractal
Well luckily this channel is just rife with veterinarians. Just everywhere. On the couch, some on the shelves. There aren't even animals around for them to check on.
split nacelle
samsquanch, i havent tried it yet :c maybe on my next playthrough
restive zodiac
@sour steeple I'd start with describing your issue or asking your question about it, since that is more likely to have an answer that someone may or may not provide. "Do you have experience?" leaves it more open to "I don't know, am I volunteering for something?" and less likely for people to leap to answer
sour steeple
Appreciate it โบ๏ธ
restive zodiac
We can give general info based on that alone, like that if you're planning on using other mods with it, you'll likely want to disable most of its functionality that is handled better by other mods and is more compatible
But otherwise :D
unique bolt
Oooo. Fortunately, Elle's mod has directions to do that.~ I just didn't realise it was going to be in its own file (and that SMAPI had its own config separate from other mods). But now I know~ . It's about time to prep dinner so I'll see you all later.~ It was nice meeting you.
dire fractal
o/
rugged hazel
Oh... i totes didn't forget that all these mods have their own recipe and like collecting fish lists.
sour steeple
So if anyone has experience with the Longevity mod, my question is about taxes. So I read on the mod page that the creator said if you owe more taxes than money you have, itโll carry over to the next season. When I finished the fall season of my first year, I was blindsided by around 90,000 in taxes ๐ (I think itโs because I rush upgraded to a deluxe barn at the end of the season to get pigs). Since I didnโt have enough cash (I only had about 70,000) will the end of winter have both that 90k tax from the fall on top of any taxes from winter?
Only reason I ask is because I had the same situation happen to me in the spring, but I didnโt notice any additional taxes in the summer.
If that makes any sense
viscid bane
I could use some mods with furniture
grizzled spire
@rain lava and @fair vessel sorry I didn't respond immediately. So the reason I want a mod like this is so that I can play for just a bit at a time throughout the day. The reason I want this is me and several friends want to run a farm together but rarely have time to play at the same time. So if instead I had a farm that was on all day for everyone to jump on whenever they wanted and manage various things we could have this slow running farm. There are other mods I was wanting to use with this such as the "always on" mod that will automate the host when he is away.
It's just an idea I had and was hoping there was a way to pull it off.
lucid sundial
Could anyone possibly help me with an issue installing stardew valley expanded on mobile?I think I did everything I was supposed to, But only some of the characters are on the map, and the map itself doesn't change at all.
dire fractal
By map do you mean the farm map (and if so are you trying to use immersive farm remastered 2?)
grizzled spire
I remember reading something about that map issue. hang on
lucid sundial
No the entire map is the same as the base game, But I can see some of the SVE characters using the NPC map locations mod, which does seem to be working
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
grizzled spire
I found where I saw someone mentioning the same town map issue. Here was the solution they said worked
Youโll need to disable the map from loading either by the configuration (if it comes with one) or remove the block of code that is loading the map (in the content.json).
muted hinge
What mod lets me break or mine walls like what we could do back when Stardew Valley was Sprout Valley?
grizzled spire
they said the 2nd thing fixed it for them
dire fractal
Hello guys! I fixed my downloading issue, but now a bunch of my mods aren't working because of one missing mod that I can't find on nexus? Can someone tell me the name/link to this mystery mod?
Paradigmnomad.morefood?
royal arrow
@lucid sundial before you do that, I think I see the problem
Stardew Valley Expanded--3753-1-10-12-1596863831 because it's an empty folder.
It looks like there's a folder that didn't properly get extracted
@dire fractal I think that one is More Recipes
lucid sundial
Thats the original folder from when I moved everything out. its gone now
royal arrow
Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying!
dire fractal
Odd. I trouble shooted that and I have PPJA Even More Recipes
royal arrow
Even More Recipes is different from More Recipes, they're 2 different mods
dire fractal
Omg thank you, I didn't realize they were different
lucid sundial
Okay so where would I find the two things Supauch mentioned?
sour steeple
So if anyone has experience with the Longevity mod, my question is about taxes. So I read on the mod page that the creator said if you owe more taxes than money you have, itโll carry over to the next season. When I finished the fall season of my first year, I was blindsided by around 90,000 in taxes ๐ (I think itโs because I rush upgraded to a deluxe barn at the end of the season to get pigs). Since I didnโt have enough cash (I only had about 70,000) will the end of winter have both that 90k tax from the fall on top of any taxes from winter?
@sour steeple No it doesnโt.
Thanks me
lucid sundial
Update, My tablet can't open .json files
grizzled spire
Unfortunate
left axle
Hey guys how do you even install mods
royal arrow
Hi there, check out the getting started guide, it covers the whole process 
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
If you get stuck, you can ask questions here!
left axle
Thank you so much
velvet tiger
I'm also here with a question regarding PPJAs mods
I'm quite late game on my farm, so I pretty much harvested / made / processed almost everything
However, there where a few greyed out items in the collections that didn't seem to relate to anything I could make or buy
daring wagon
Screenshot?
velvet tiger
Yes, I'll share, since I found which they were through the item spawner, let me show you
It's Dried tea leaves.. I can't seem to put tea leaves anywhere it would make them / Wheat noodles, same, can't put wheat or the flour anywhere
naive drum
the pepper ones are due to not all the peppers actually being implemented yet
velvet tiger
And some extracts... the blender only makes 2 of them, doesn't take any other than jalapeno and habanero
rapid drum
the dried tea leaf sprite is so cute!
lucid sundial
well if no one has any more fixes for me, I'll just go back to Base game and wait till I get stardew valley on PC to use mods.
naive drum
do you have the correct NPC map locations?
there are 2
(on the same page)
and one is for SVE and one is not
velvet tiger
the pepper ones are due to not all the peppers actually being implemented yet
@naive drum Ok, and the tea and noodles, am I missing anything? I truly tried to stick tea and flour in every machine that seemed related
naive drum
i think the tea is a bug or something and i dunno about the noodles, maybe ask paradigm?
daring wagon
@velvet tiger which ppja mods do you have? Will dig around in the json files
Or that XD
velvet tiger
Fruits & Veggies + Trees + Flowers + Recipes + More recipes + Artisan Valley
lucid sundial
I'm honestly not sure, I'll delete it and triple check during reinstall
velvet tiger
I saw the files, but I have no knowledge as to how to read them and understand they're content
fair vessel
@grizzled spire for your situation I'd try then a combination of TimeSpeed and Always On Server for Multiplayer mod, yeah.
royal arrow
@lucid sundial once you reinstall, if you still have the issue, could you also load the save and provide a new log o: ? That way we have the latest info
!log putting this here for reference
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
lucid sundial
Got it, Im having connection issues right now so it may be A minute. On the bright side, I never need to worry about nexus mods download speed limit.
dire fractal
Alright I have another problem.
There's a sneaky mod that's conflicting with my Stardew Valley Expanded Farm map, but the map is the same for the rest of the town. Are there any popular mods that map clash? Or should I send the list of mods I have
royal arrow
clearglass, we could throw guesses, but your log would help us narrow it down better
royal arrow
Haha yes, I have 351 mods and know of people with 400+, it's unlikely you'll faze me lol
dire fractal
Okay :) 4 folder I have, and I have no clash notifs in my smapi loader when I load stardew
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
royal arrow
It'll give us a nice list
dire fractal
Oh what's the log? Like on the loader?
royal arrow
Check the link in the governor message, it has instructions
daring wagon
@velvet tiger from like, 10 minutes poking around the json files: dried tea leaves should be from the dehydrator, but it isn't working for me either. Trying making tea and then putting that in the dehydrator, will see if that works. Wheat noodles aren't in the producer rules for artisan valley. I'm guessing it was hard to get it working correctly in the extruder? And Wingheart said the peppers weren't done yet, so that's all of them.
lucid sundial
Everything seems to be working fine now, ran throughout the town, But I'm too tired to test extensively.
royal arrow
@dire fractal did you go through it and it provides a link that says you can share o: ?
or are you getting errors on the webpage?
rapid drum
Do you mean you have a shit ton of words that are on an otherwise blank white screen?
lucid sundial
Thank you all for your help, And goodnight.
dire fractal
https://smapi.io/log/f8ffd304f9c545afb06d345310c67b59
And no when i went into the files, it says smapi-latest
would updating a few mods possibly solve this issue?
velvet tiger
Thanks @daring wagon ! I'll try the dehydrator and see if it works. I'm surprised by the noodles cause I could make the other 2 perfectly (rice and buckwheat). And yes, I saw Wingheart's message (it breaks my completionist heart a bit that they already show up but can't complete without cheating, until an update comes out.. lol)
royal arrow
clearglass, your log is loading, I'll let you know what I see 
Alright I have another problem.
There's a sneaky mod that's conflicting with my Stardew Valley Expanded Farm map, but the map is the same for the rest of the town. Are there any popular mods that map clash? Or should I send the list of mods I have
@dire fractal to clarify on this, are you saying the farm map is vanilla/base game, and the town is using the SVE stuff? Or that the farm map is different, but the town is vanilla/base game?
dire fractal
Farm has Vanilla map, Everything else loaded with SVE map
rapid drum
what do you want to be happening?
royal arrow
Ah ok, the farm changes are a mod download within the SVE page, Immersive Farm 2 Remastered
so if you go to the SVE mod page, there's a download for the farm map
dire fractal
oh wow really? pfft thank you!
safe veldt
What do I need to add to the tractor mod file so that when I have grevel path selected, it puts it down?
royal arrow
you're welcome! yea it's a bit confusing that it's not actually bundled ๐
dire fractal
also requires use of the standard map to activate
royal arrow
yes, the IFR2 map only replaces the Standard farm type
safe veldt
I tried typing
"GrassStarter": {
"Enable": true
},
but it didnt work
dire fractal
yes i did that mana ๐ thank you guys! I'll run it with immersive
safe veldt
I put GravelPath instead of GrassStarter
daring wagon
@velvet tiger you can add the pepper things to the producerrules yourself if you want ๐ It's a pretty easy copy paste, I'll probably do that for my own playthrough of Artisan Valley (I'm almost done too, thanks much for bringing that question up!)
dire fractal
I would rate it 10/10, I absolutely love it and it's my favorite mod.
But I might not be the majority in opinions
It adds quite a bit of content and a much of it is pretty on-brand for Vanilla.
rugged hazel
A couple of folks are saying its not good. Its pretty ok if you want dark and depressing content
So... decided to ask here
dire fractal
Several of the more mature-tagged events are disabled by default, and most of it is about on the level of Shane's stuff, just with different themes for various NPCs.
tight tusk
it's pretty good for adding late game content. i don't like the heart events it adds for most of the villagers though with the exception of few. sve does really well for all its original content like crimson badlands etc
ashen elbow
sve is a good expansion mod, and my go-to if i want something like that
however, i don't use it because it's simply too big for me lol
safe veldt
does anyone know how to adjust the config file for the tractor so that it lays down the Gravel Path?
dire fractal
Some of the NPCs it adds are really good. Some I'm pretty neutral about. Some are kind of tedious to get to at times. Overall enjoying my playthrough on it though. ๐
rugged hazel
Ah ok. I shall be back to ask how to enable the mature stuff
royal arrow
(I have a mod folder set up for it, and haven't gotten to it yet >_> so it's on my list of mods to try out, but I'm cautious about it being incompatible with most of my 350+ mod load order haha)
rugged hazel
When i am done downloading all these mods
(I have a mod folder set up for it, and haven't gotten to it yet >_> so it's on my list of mods to try out, but I'm cautious about it being incompatible with most of my 350+ mod load order haha)
@royal arrow This is what i am honestly afraid of. I have been downloading mods that just look super cool and im hoping and praying that they're compatible
Like my Griffin mod
Hope my Griffin mod is compatible with stuff
dire fractal
@rugged hazel https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Install-guide and the FAQ/Troublshooting links on the right of that page are all useful. Mature is just a true/false boolean in the config.json but the nexus page for it explains how to change the setting IIRC
royal arrow
WEELLLLL have you heard about modgroups? :D
ahem with modgroups, you can have a separate folder for certain mods, most often used for things like multiplayer vs. single player. I have one for testing, one for my main load out, one for multiplayer, and one for SVE (also one for my alternate load out but who's counting the chickens on my desktop >_>)
!modgroups see link below for more info
native dragonBOT
See this link for how to load different mod groups: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F.
restive zodiac
It does a bit too much all in one package for me to put into my own lists, though I have meant to try it for some time. I have a friend that hadn't ever modded before that naturally saw some article or something for it and wanted it, so at some point when we can even see each other again I'll probably put together a mod list around it. Mostly I have just installed it many times for testing purposes hehe
rugged hazel
@royal arrow ... I just have like a backup and whatever i am doing now with this one
royal arrow
whatever works o:
restive zodiac
There's definitely a ton of work put into it, though I am picky about conflicting headcanons :P
rugged hazel
so that way i still have my normal save and this one
Ooof...
So much to do
So much i gotta do
royal arrow
Yea modding takes time, especially if you're trying to get fancy with it 
velvet tiger
@velvet tiger you can add the pepper things to the producerrules yourself if you want ๐ It's a pretty easy copy paste, I'll probably do that for my own playthrough of Artisan Valley (I'm almost done too, thanks much for bringing that question up!)
@daring wagon that would be nice to do, maybe that can fix the noodles too? Is it ok if I DM you for guidance?
left axle
Guys
I need help
Do I unstall the same version for the mods
Like how does that work
ashen elbow
uh
left axle
Or does it not matter
ashen elbow
what do you mean,?
ashen elbow
you play the latest version of the game
dire fractal
Generally you want the latest version of each mod, framework, SMAPI and the game itself.
left axle
Am I suppose to only install 1.0.0
ashen elbow
and install the latest version of the mod
dire fractal
version numbers for any given mod are almost guaranteed to just be for that mod
ashen elbow
yeah
dire fractal
so completely unrelated
royal arrow
also, you can check mods.smapi.io to see if they are still compatible, or if there's unofficial updates (for SMAPI mods only, not content packs)
dire fractal
if you wanted to solve which ones worked back with stardew 1.0 you'd probably need to do a huge amount of manual trial and error
ashen elbow
the version number for the mod is only relevant to the mod itself
left axle
Iโm so confused
ashen elbow
just install mods if they're updated for 1.4,, it doesn't matter what version they are
royal arrow
can you provide a link as an example?
left axle
Can someone vc me and help
ashen elbow
no
dire fractal
Just to clarify (I'm confused too! :D) you want to play the current version of stardew, right?
left axle
No
ashen elbow
wait what
left axle
I wanna play 1.0.0
ashen elbow
but why?
dire fractal
if you wanted to solve which ones worked back with stardew 1.0 you'd probably need to do a huge amount of manual trial and error
restive zodiac
The original version of the game?
left axle
Because all the mods I wanna play are that verson
restive zodiac
That's really unlikely.
left axle
Thatโs what they say
royal arrow
can you provide a link as an example?
safe veldt
does anyone know how to alter the config file for the tractor mod so that it can lay down Gravel Path as well?
restive zodiac
There are very few mods that will work with that old a game. Remember mod version is completely separate from game version, they are not related at all.
ashen elbow
yeah
left axle
restive zodiac
When people release a mod, they may label it 1.0.0 or 0.0.1 or any version scheme they want. It just reflects the current state of their mod ad they judge it
left axle
restive zodiac
That mod works with the latest version of the game. It is version 1.0.0 because it was the first release of that mod. It is not connected to the game version in any way.
left axle
Ohh
ashen elbow
Ah but the buildings mod isnt updated for 1.4,,?
restive zodiac
To know if something works with the latest game version, you need to read the mod description and check the last updated date.
!compat For SMAPI mods, you can also check the compatibility list.
native dragonBOT
See https://smapi.io/mods for a list of mods updated for the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley. :)
rugged hazel
@left axle Im looking for that Mod that you have. I am not sure if its on the site tho. the Victorian Building one
restive zodiac
@left axle FYI I also changed your nickname to be pingable with an English keyboard - feel free to change it to anything else that complies with #old-rules :)
dire fractal
@safe veldt I haven't used the tractor mod but it doesn't look like it has a content.json to define defaults. Does it have a config.json file after launching the game?
left axle
Itโs all goo
restive zodiac
That also works fine with latest version.
safe veldt
restive zodiac
(Tractor mod wouldn't have a content.json because it's a SMAPI mod and not a content pack, just to clarify :) )
rugged hazel
... Ok. ModDrop is pretty
safe veldt
I tried typing:
"GravelPath": {
"Enable": true
},
right after the grass starter one but when i launched the game, it didnt work and when re-opening the file, it hadn.t saved
dire fractal
Noted (kinda guessed but tyvm for verification)
safe veldt
what do you mean AFTER launching the game? I thought you couldn't alter files while game is launched?
dire fractal
content packs and the like create a config.json the first time the game is launched, generally. The .zip archive for tractor doesn't have a config.json file in it. I was just curious if one had showed up after a game launch. ๐
ashen elbow
you launch the game to generate the config, change it, and then relaunch the game
safe veldt
right that's what I did. the game wasn't running when I tried to add in the gravel path part
ashen elbow
so, you typed in the gravel part, and it wasnt there from the start?
dire fractal
I'm not seeing anything on https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/tree/develop/TractorMod#configure about it laying custom paths. Maybe it's just grass starters it'll plant?
safe veldt
yea I was trying to see if there was a way to add it in so that it puts down gravel path the same way it puts down the grass starter
ashen elbow
i don't think you can do that
it's a smapi mod, so the inner workings are a bit different
so i think if you wanted it to lay down gravel paths, you'll have to edit the code to allow it
dire fractal
Oh?
restive zodiac
Tractor supports custom attachments 
safe veldt
yep. gotta have the generic mod config menu and then you go to setting on the main screen and adjustfrom there
dire fractal
Huh. Fancy.
safe veldt
haha right
daring wagon
@velvet tiger sure! Careful though, it's a short slippery slope from tweaking to wanting to make your own mod XD
royal arrow
join the cheeto gang, we are a welcoming and encouraging group
restive zodiac
Just make sure you turn onto right path ๐
("mother! Tell your children not to walk my way..." )
pastel arch
mouse, I've got this mod I want to release, but my nexus isn't working. Also, I don't have the code yet. Would you mind writing it and releasing it under your account? Appreciate it, thanks!
restive zodiac
As long as you want wanted xnb mods
daring wagon
!xnbzola seems appropriate here
native dragonBOT
An XNB mod replaces some of your game's .xnb files to change the game (unlike newer mods that go in your Mods folder). This is an older type of mod that's no longer recommended, and can cause a number of issues. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for help using them (and a list of alternatives using Content Patcher), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/156109690059751424/575085766426886145/ZolasFury.png
restive zodiac
royal arrow
(mouse was that a House of the Rising Sun reference O: ?)
restive zodiac
(It was Danzig :P)
open mulch
Hello, could someone help me out with a problem I'm having with ChildToNPC (and what appears to be minor problems with Babysitter)?
daring wagon
I know ChildToNPC was supposed to break soon, have you already checked for an unofficial update?
Think there is one out there already!
open mulch
yep, i just downloaded it along with the new content patcher update!
but the problem started just before i did that lol
daring wagon
Uh oh. Well, I don't use that mod, but there are a lot of people in here who do! Best thing is to share your SMAPI log.
open mulch
okie dokie, how can i do that? ๐
daring wagon
!log @open mulch
native dragonBOT
@open mulch Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
daring wagon
Well, it really doesn't like the config file! Did you carry that over from the old version?
open mulch
Nope!
daring wagon
Hmm. Well, I really don't know how that mod works, so I'm not sure what the problem is. But there should be more people along soon! Maybe hang on and when it starts to look busier in here repost your question and log, with a description of what you're seeing in game that's weird. GL!!
(Looking at that-if it were my game, I'd make a copy of the config file, delete the one in the mods folder and try tweaks on that while waiting. That's definitely what SMAPI thinks is wrong. Could be missing quotes or something small like that)
open mulch
Haha same, I'm so confused. Thanks for trying, have a great day ๐
Having the mods generate new config files worked at first... then I tried to open my inventory and it didn't open and many errors occurred... hooray! I've had this issue before but I forgot how I resolved it lol
daring wagon
I'm working tomorrow, so I might not get back to you til late. But heads up-making black tea in the kitchen then putting it into the dehydrator worked for "dried black tea leaves"!
Also, check the comments for Artisan Valley on Nexus-someone has already made the edit for wheat noodles and I bet the peppers too. It's just a lot of comments to search through... ๐
ashen elbow
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
rugged hazel
But they're still running... Is that normal?
daring wagon
Depends what your errors are. Can you link a log in here so we can see what's going on?
rugged hazel
velvet tiger
Yeah, I work tomorrow as well, so it will be after work also. I'll check the nexus page then first. Already closed the game, I'll check out the tea tomorrow.
ashen elbow
eh, where are the errors in the log,,,
rugged hazel
It just shows an error when i check the SMAPI thingie
royal arrow
Join us
fair vessel
@rugged hazel what color of text?
royal arrow
rugged hazel
@rugged hazel what color of text?
@fair vessel Red
velvet tiger
rugged hazel
but on the uploader it was purplish?
i got the files needed to update the files... but it still wasn't working
still popped up as error
fair vessel
uploader?
velvet tiger
Hope I'm up to the task
royal arrow
And you can always ask questions in #making-mods-general, we're a friendly and helpful lot
fair vessel
Was it this?
21:36:54 ALERT SMAPI You can update 2 mods: This section is shown. Click here to hide it.
21:36:54 ALERT SMAPI Mod Update Menu 1.6.0: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2536
21:36:54 ALERT SMAPI Seasonal Victorian Cabin 1.0.0: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2496```If you like pixel art, I've got like 3 projects that just need an artist.
ashen elbow
ooh
rugged hazel
Was it this?
21:36:54 ALERT SMAPI You can update 2 mods: This section is shown. Click here to hide it. 21:36:54 ALERT SMAPI Mod Update Menu 1.6.0: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2536 21:36:54 ALERT SMAPI Seasonal Victorian Cabin 1.0.0: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2496```
@fair vessel It was more. It was my two Griffin mods and something else
velvet tiger
I used to take art classes, but abandoned that like 15 years ago. I'm thinking both I may fail on that one and also I have been seeing so much art here lately that ot got me thinking about it
fair vessel
Hm yeah, nothing about griffin mods - is that the most recent log?
rugged hazel
Nah. I got rid of the griffin mod and another mod. that wasn't compatible
I wonder where i can get the Mod Update Menu
fair vessel
The log gives you a link
rugged hazel
Yea. I got that download from the log. Hold on
@fair vessel https://smapi.io/log/243538ad966946bda6037371cad20699
So like i installed the new packs and whatnot? But... its still saying like... i need to update these same 5 mods
fair vessel
Some of them might have version errors in their manifest, which is the mod author's fault and nothing to worry about
I know Mod Update Menu's manifest is fine though, so I'm not sure if you've properly installed the newest version for it
rugged hazel
This is what i see. (I kind of had to cut it cause didn't want to show my other monitor.)
Maybe its not compatible... with my other mods?
Not sure...
fair vessel
Oh, SVE is known to have weird stuff with Mod Update Menu's display
You can ignore those and pay attention to the actual SMAPI stuff. Mod Update Menu Error doesn't mean there's a smapi error.
(I think Mod Update Menu 1.6.0 was supposed to fix that stuff with SVE though?)
Anyway, it won't cause you any problems in your game to just play it as is, despite what that screen shows
timber spire
Works fine with me
primal arrow
I got a nice crash this evening. Whenever I enter any building the game crashes. I've played with updating mods (Content Patcher and some others), but I've theoretically reverted everything back into place (I copied the folder back from a save). Happens with every save file, new or old, and with every building.
https://smapi.io/log/fb25125f3af8419db1120aff9cec64fc
Do I have to take care of some other folder while downgrading content patcher?
dire fractal
At least some of the content patcher packs are specifying a version format that is newer than your content patcher version allows, looks like
But that's probably just blocking those packs from loading, not the crash cause I guess?
looks like a pytk issue? did that stay upgraded?
primal arrow
But that's probably just blocking those packs from loading, not the crash cause I guess?
@dire fractal Not the crash, they are not loaded at all
I mean, I reverted it all back
dire fractal
ah, so full folder back to the way it was
dire fractal
Maybe? I'm pretty far from an expert but it looks like PyTK is freaking out trying to draw. Could try reinstalling PyTK or mods that have custom maps.
dire fractal
Was the game saved on the new versions of stuff? or started the instant the updates were in place, then reverted?
(mostly info gathering so someone more knowledgeable about maps and pytk can swing by and slap down some knowledge on what's wrong)
primal arrow
It crashed with new stuff, then Ireverted
But I also tried with a new game
like brand new
dire fractal
and that broke the same?
primal arrow
yes
dire fractal
That's a good thing. We can rule out the save itself having issues somehow. ๐
primal arrow
At least ๐
dire fractal
baby steps!
primal arrow
without mods of course everything works
I didn't try to load my original save though, too much custom stuff
I reinstalled the old pytk, but it didn't work
dire fractal
primal arrow
TMX is that bad thing that manages to break everything when you take it away?
restive zodiac
Do you have a version of the log where all your mods are up to date?
dire fractal
...mouse asking the right questions
primal arrow
Do you have a version of the log where all your mods are up to date?
@restive zodiac no, I don't update them on purpose
waitaminute because I might have been just incredibly stupid
dire fractal
I think mouse meant a log from the crash prior to the reversion, not necessarily everything being 100% up to date
primal arrow
Uhm
restive zodiac
Prior to changes is good on principle, but I don't really like troubleshooting big logs full of very outdated mods in general because you never know when you're dealing with issues that were fixed ten versions ago. I'm happy to leave it to other people though :P
dire fractal
Agreed. Weird that reverting the mods directory to what was working now isn't though, seems like it'd have to have cruft around or something.
primal arrow
Prior to changes is good on principle, but I don't really like troubleshooting big logs full of very outdated mods in general because you never know when you're dealing with issues that were fixed ten versions ago. I'm happy to leave it to other people though :P
@restive zodiac Let's say that I have been playing since <whatever> without issues
And now the crash are consistent
like, everytime
fair vessel
I've theoretically reverted everything back into place (I copied the folder back from a save)
@primal arrow what do you mean here by copied back from a save?
primal arrow
I understand you and I would normally agree, but here updating seems to have worse effects than staying "stable"
@primal arrow what do you mean here by copied back from a save?
@fair vessel cp -r Mods_copy Mods
fair vessel
๐ค that will overwrite files and put back ones that were removed, but it won't remove files that were added, will it?
dire fractal
^- unless Mods didn't exist in this case yeah
fair vessel
yeh
primal arrow
I've deleted the folder before doing that ๐
fair vessel
ah okay. Well if that Mods folder worked before and doesn't work now, that's confusing for sure.