Would I be able to just delete the mod from the mods folder? and I'm sorry I don't understand your other message
#archived-modded-support
mighty crane
naive drum
looks like your SVE install is messed up as well
deleting Save Anywhere and deleting and reinstalling SVE should probably fix it!
mighty crane
Sounds good! Should I expect to lose any data when reinstalling SVE? on existing save files
naive drum
nope!
heavy sail
Yeah, if you have any SMAPI after 3.4.0, you should be safe to delete it.
mighty crane
Perfect, thanks so much for the quick and clear answer on this! Last question I think, how do I proper delete SVE? just delete any file in the mods folder with stardew valley expanded in the name?
naive drum
yep! all the SVE folders
then once you have cleared out all the SVE folders, you can reinstall SVE
mighty crane
Awesome I'll go do that now, thank you so much
girlfriend is not hyped that the game keeps crashing on her and I've been trying to figure this out on my own lol
naive drum
it looks like your installation was corrupted or otherwise not quite right somehow
lots of errors about xml documents and trying to add sve's jsonassets components more than once
your SVE installation that is
dire fractal
every damn time I delete my Get glam item folder or Json asset item folder, I get this error
https://smapi.io/log/6cc8050a745f4a06a4618e5392a994ee
sigh
heavy sail
Works just fine, but I feel like I installed these wrong.
mighty crane
Right on, I'll reinstall it now, thanks again Wingheart!!
dire fractal
I have too much mod and I must delete some
heavy sail
There's never too much mods, I have 431.
dire fractal
but if I delete mod, an error appear
naive drum
you turned the zips into folders instead of taking the mod folders out of the zips...
dire fractal
I have 326
heavy sail
Which mods cause an issue?
dire fractal
Json asset
heavy sail
@naive drum Yeah, but they run just fine.
naive drum
now you can't overwrite because the nexus zip names include version numbers
anyway shophia you need to make sure there aren't any JA items from the packs you're trying to remove anywhere in the world
heavy sail
I really don't overwrite anyway, I just delete and then install the new version. @naive drum
naive drum
so no JA items from the packs you want to remove in chests, player inventories, planted as crops, as forage, or in junimo huts
or placed in the world
heavy sail
That can cause fatal crashes if they aren't removed.
dire fractal
I must check my saved file one by one
heavy sail
What mods do you have left to check?
dire fractal
ok thank you Wingheart and ExnoticTest
supple echo
it's a shame there's not a global command to wipe all JA items (she says, with no idea how complicated that might be to implement)
naive drum
custom music, exhaustion tweaks, custom ore nodes
heavy sail
Custom Music maybe.
naive drum
checking that one now
heavy sail
What CM mods do you have anyways?
naive drum
some sound-changing mods
engine noises for a tractor, no clop bc my horse is a motorbike
heavy sail
Maybe it's just CM in general, I use both of those.
naive drum
oh do you also get hellish stutter?
heavy sail
Yes, but only when I use my (unreleased) Speed Potions mod.
naive drum
it appears to be save file dependent...
heavy sail
Hmm, that's odd.
heavy sail
What's in that save anyway?
naive drum
animals, crops, forage, grass, machine
heavy sail
Any mods for those?
naive drum
many, but not changed from the pre-lag-spikes many except possibly adding more ice cream machine recipes?
heavy sail
Do you have Better Junimos?
heavy sail
That's really odd.
I wonder if someone like Jonqora or mouse can help, I've never seen something like this.
heavy sail
Probably a dumb idea, but try removing every mod that utilizes a .dll or .pdb (except for framework mods like PyTK, Content Patcher, etc.)
shy orbit
@naive drum i had bad stuttering with the tractor sound mod - but only after i built the garage
naive drum
hmmmmmmmmmm
i've had the garage for a while but that mod is rather loud...
checking custom ore nodes now
it was custom ore nodes
heavy sail
Huh, that's weird. I use that mod just fine.
naive drum
yeah it is super weird
fair vessel
@naive drum do you have the build of Tractor Sounds that spams messages to the console a mile a minute?
I've avoided updating mine for that reason, lol
naive drum
don't think so and also it turned out to be Custom Ore Nodes' fault
fair vessel
Ah. 
What was custom ore doing?
fair vessel
👀 even Trace?
heavy sail
Customer ore, hmm might make that a custom ore node.
fair vessel
Haha! Brand them with Joja logos
naive drum
the lagspikes lasted a decent chunk of a second each, completely ate all inputs that happened during them, and would occur decently evenly spaced with a bit less than a second between them even when the game was paused
heavy sail
I already have plenty of ideas.
naive drum
they made the game damn near unplayable
and in addition to not showing up in the log they didn't occur on a brand-new spring 1 year 1 save
fair vessel
And removing custom ore nodes fixed it huh?
naive drum
going back a custom ore nodes version fixed it
fair vessel
I wonder if this was some weird symbiosis between two mods
naive drum
i wonder if it was some weird problem with more gem...
fair vessel
Like maybe the new custom ores doesn't do it on its own, but only in combination with something else perhaps
heavy sail
I use that mod with no issues and I have like 430 others too. I wonder what made it lag out for you. 
naive drum
its so bizarre
i wonder if the more gem or custom ore nodes authors are on discord...
heavy sail
I've made like 8 custom nodes as well. And yes, the Custom Ore Nodes creator is on Discord.
heavy sail
I'm not exactly sure.
fair vessel
custom ore nodes is aedenthorn I think? iLoveLucy here on discord, but I haven't seen them around here the last few days
heavy sail
They usually respond fast if you report it on Nexus tho.
naive drum
fair enough
fair vessel
Who's the other author
untold widget
im back
So, I open config.json with Docs, I edit it, then saving. It always get stuck at "Changing Saved..."
heavy sail
I could try finding another app for you, do you use Android?
heavy sail
untold widget
I'll try it out right now.
shy orbit
a simple text editor might be a better choice. i'm not familiar with that app but they can display the file in more and unnecessary complex manner
untold widget
It worked! Thank you!! 
heavy sail
No problem.
keen rune
Someone using Neos Griffins?
heavy sail
Yes, I am.
keen rune
Is it working for you? Somehow they won't show up in the shop.
heavy sail
It does work for me.
keen rune
Did you have to alter something in the json files?
heavy sail
Nope. If I may ask, what version of BFAV do you have?
keen rune
The latest one from the nexus
heavy sail
This should work for you.
keen rune
But do I have to also place the source folder into my mods folder?
heavy sail
Yep, or it won't work.
keen rune
Okay thanks.
keen rune
Do I have to unpack the source folder ?
So put the folders inside source outside in the mods folder ?
fair vessel
You'll need to unzip the folder you downloaded. And then go inside the unzipped folder, and move all folder or folders you find inside it into the Mods folder
keen rune
So like every other mod. sadly didn't work :(
fair vessel
Can you post a log to provide more info?
keen rune
Will do right after work .
solid elk
ok so um
i launched SMAPI for the first time
and it said this
[SMAPI] Skipped mods
[SMAPI] --------------------------------------------------
[SMAPI] These mods could not be added to your game.
[SMAPI] - SMAPI 3.6.2 installer because it contains files, but none of them are manifest.json.
i have no clue what to do
heavy sail
You don't put SMAPI in the mods folder.
solid elk
ahhhhhh
yeah i just read that on reddit
tyty
i think it was Vortex that put it in the mod folder lol
heavy sail
Yeah, Vortex is a bit weird. ya see, this is why I don't use Vortex, it's kinda broken
dire fractal
If you don't recursively load SMAPI, are you even modding?
keen moss
Most of us prefer to manage our mods manually since SDV is one of the easier games to install mods for. ModDrop is the other mod manager we recommend but it also has flaws. I’ve seen a lot of discussion about MO2 recently but I’m going to assume it has the same issues as the others because of the nature of being a mod manager. It also requires additional steps to get working.
remote cedar
If by extra steps you mean adding a single plugin, then sure.
Also, assuming something you're not familiar with is bad form.
royal arrow
MO is one of the more complex mod managers though, so average users, especially if they're not familiar with using it in other games, would have a steep learning curve
dire fractal
MO?
Mulberry Ornithopter
0_0
I never heard of it
(Mod Organizer)
Still never heard of this mod manager
From what I can gather MO/MO2 are effectively NMM/Vortex but unaffiliated with Nexus and with some differences in design philosophy or functionality that lead to its proponents being quite fond of it.
royal arrow
Well, MO/MO2 were better than NMM/Vortex until nexus stepped up and incorporated some of the MO features to NMM/Vortex 😆
dire fractal
^ See? People love their Mandrill Oranges
I'm lost
So there is a mod manager that is worth to use?
Everything said by both of us is real except I keep making up acronyms because I have a bad habit of doing so when people get into heavily using acronyms not everyone might follow. 😉
A handful of people have been in here in the past week or so saying Mechanical Olive 2's 'generic mod' (or something) plugin (function?) works well with Stardew.
Generic game?
royal arrow
Yea it's just a matter of understanding Mod Organizer 
which requires YouTube videos lol
Yea generic game plugin, apparently
But mouse reiterates that using Mod Organizer for Stardew Valley is overkill, and I agree, because of the steep learning curve, and the fact that manual install cuts out the middleprogram and is safe to do, unlike a Bethesda game, in which manual install is equivalent to XNB modding in Stardew Valley
(As a side note, I was under the impression MO = Mod Organizer was established earlier in the conversation, which is why I kept it abbreviated until someone's sass alerted me to the contrary :p I try, though not always remember, to actually say the thing before starting with the acronym lol)
dire fractal
I'm just being a butt about it. 😉
keen moss
We also have a fair number of people here who don’t know how to extract a zip file so we like to keep things as simple as possible so even 1 extra plugin for Multiple Orangutans might make somebody frustrated and not want to use mods.
torn mason
I think also the "extra steps" involved is all the special install steps required by some mods that a mod manager can't handle without having been specially programmed for it. And at that point getting a user try to manually add stuff to a mod loadout that was handled by a manager can become incredibly complex depending on how the manager does it
night obsidian
I use MO2 for Modding Elder Scrolls games and I use ModDrop for modding Stardew Valley.
I just use whichever mod manager is best optimizated for whichever game
torn mason
Modding elder scrolls is such a different can of worms haha
Stardew just doesn't need a mod manager at all at least with how SMAPI is set up
dire fractal
I can think of a few useful ways to set up a management system for stardew mods, but it's very unlike existing managers.
night obsidian
Well it is super easy using ModDrop for stardew mods
So there is that
It does installs, backups, and can do custom mod packs which is nice
I haven't used NMM or Vortex, but I haven't heard the best about them.
torn mason
Wonders if I could make a mod updater without the API using a selenium script that works on Nexus...... You'd have to handle a browser popping up through all the mods, and Nexus would still get its views for ads 
Remembering the talk about the updater yesterday but it only works for github
dreamy idol
is there a mod that just adds more furnitures/decorations/clothes/hats nothing else?
still want to play as close to vanilla just having more decorative items would be nice
keen moss
There are many mods that do 1 or 2 of those things but not a single mod that adds all of those. We can recommend some if we know what style you're looking for!
keen rune
Hi again .
Here's a log I was asked to provide. The Griffin mod isn't working for me. Installed the unofficial port for 1.4 for bafv and the latest Griffin mod.
heavy sail
Maybe try reinstalling it? I haven't had any issues with this, so that's my best offer right now.
heavy sail
May I see your mods folder?
dire fractal
BFAV says it couldn't run in your log
If the griffins require it, they won't be working either.
Paritee's Better Farm Animal Variety 3.0.0-unofficial.7-mouseypounds because initialization failed: System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException: Exception of type 'System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException' was thrown.
heavy sail
Something must be wrong internally with that download, I use it myself with no issues.
dire fractal
Or there's a compatibility issue with versions of other stuff.
heavy sail
Oh I know! BFAV isn't compatible with Android maybe. It is a SMAPI mod after all.
keen rune
Oooooh. But I'm running Android smapi
heavy sail
Yeah, it seems to not be compatible with Android SMAPI.
dire fractal
Oh, noted somewhere? 😦
heavy sail
No, but that must be the issue. I use most of the mods in that list on PC.
keen moss
It's also an unofficial update that hasn't been updated since Dec.2019 which is prior to 1.4 releasing on Android. There is an alternative to BFAV being developed that may work on Android. There is no ETA for release.
heavy sail
@keen rune I think BFAV isn't compatible with Android, you might have to get rid of it.
keen rune
Wellp okay. :) But thank You for your help :)
onyx osprey
hi
i need some help with installing smapi:(
i dont have my stardew valley copy on my steam folder, but i cant seem to put the path correctly, can anyone help me?
daring wagon
Hi there! Do you normally run the game through steam?
novel spindle
onyx osprey
i do, but as of now i created a folder in my desktop in which i store most of my indie games
daring wagon
Ok. I don't know if that will make a difference or not, ElWnMax
onyx osprey
so i dont really use steam now, i mostly open it directly from said folder
heavy sail
Did you buy SDV with Steam? Better question: did you move the .exe file?
onyx osprey
yes to both
daring wagon
If you don't want to run the game through steam, you don't need to put the path in steam. You can just run StardewModdingAPI.exe in your game folder.
onyx osprey
i did, but it said it did not find it, and said to type the path were the .exe is
heavy sail
What is your path anyway?
daring wagon
You have to install it first, before you put it in the game folder
onyx osprey
to install it, i need the folder were the .exe is:(
daring wagon
If you just take it out of there and put it on desktop or somewhere that isn't the game folder, you can run the .bat
tired apex
Yo if someone has a moment, the bottom of my log says I can update some mods but I have the latest versions? https://smapi.io/json/none/ceddb45dee634fb18477d1cbfbefcd95
onyx osprey
lemmme try
heavy sail
Probably a manifest issue @tired apex, don't mind it. You can change it yourself if it annoys you.
tired apex
What would I change it to?
onyx osprey
It says: Where is your game folder?
Oops, couldn't find the game automatically.
Type the file path to the game directory (the one containing 'Stardew Valley.exe'), then press enter.
heavy sail
What's your game path?
onyx osprey
that is exactly what i dont know how to type:(
daring wagon
Are you on Windows?
onyx osprey
yes
heavy sail
@tired apex Well, it would require changing the version number in the manifest.jsons of the mods that do that.
tired apex
Ah, alright, ill check the mod pages then
onyx osprey
so, lets say it is on a folder on my desktop called Games, then in another folder called "Indies" and then there is the game folder itself
daring wagon
Find the folder you put the game into, right click, and look at properties. That should give you the filepath
onyx osprey
am i supossed to write like " Windows (C:)\ ...." and so on till i do?
oh
lemme try
daring wagon
Unless Exnotic has a better suggestion-they might
keen moss
Since you're on Windows you should be able to copy+paste the file path into the console.
heavy sail
Unrelated question, but are the other game files for Stardew in that folder @onyx osprey
onyx osprey
sorry for the latenance, it worked! thanks eveyone 😄
and yeah, everything was on said folder
loud whale
Hey guys, are there any mods that would let me write messages to other players in game in multiplayer? Like sending mail, or writing on signs or something like that.
heavy sail
@loud whale I don't think there is
loud whale
Aw, that sucks
weary crane
my farm has a little multiplayer chat that goes right where the messages like "winnie donated ___ to a bundle" would go
i dont know anything about the mod pack my friend put together so i didnt know that was a mod. i could try and find it for you
weary crane
oh i thought so!
loud whale
You press t to open it
I was specifically looking for things like writing on items or in item names
So I could leave messages to them
daring wagon
I've seen a diary mod, but IDK if it would work for multiplayer
weary crane
oh oh
this might be a silly question, but is there a way to turn off my mods for one farm and keep them on for another? i have 46 for a group farm but i cant expect anyone i play with to download all 46 just to be compatible with me
loud whale
I don't think they need them
they just need the content patcher
and smapi I think?
or at least that's what I heard
fossil coyote
I'm thinking about starting my first real playthrough of the game after finally getting over the fact of losing many hours of progress. Are there some go to QoL mods that I should install?
heavy sail
There are a lot, what did you have in mind?
fossil coyote
I don't really know much about mods in this game? Are there some you can recommend? I want to keep the vanilla feel still.
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
restive zodiac
Stupid s, jumping into the wrong word...
dire fractal
yeah I always misstype !scredmor
... !scredmo if I don't want a joke with too many Rs
split nacelle
Automate for sure
heavy sail
@restive zodiac Unrelated, but can I get the modder role? I've added myself to page and have the suitable level. Edit: Thanks!
oak frost
i downloaded Stardew valley expanded and it needs 2 more helper mods
I have downloaded TMXLoader and PyTK
But it still gives alot of errors
heavy sail
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
restive zodiac
Looks like you need to install JA and FTM, which are linked in the log errors.
heavy sail
And SpaceCore.
restive zodiac
JA requires spacecore, yeah.
heavy sail
The game doesn't start?
heavy sail
Give it a minute maybe, I've dealt with something like that plenty of times.
oak frost
how long should i wait?
heavy sail
Depends on your computer type. Maybe 3 minutes or so, if that doesn't work, report back here.
oak frost
nothing is changing in cmd screen
can i just do CTRL+C and close the window after 3 mins?
heavy sail
If you want to
keen moss
If you clicked on the command window it also won't progress. It's a feature
oak frost
oh i did that
heavy sail
Forgot about that, I've accidentally done that plenty of times.
oak frost
i did ctrl c and it opened the game instantly
any mods you guys would reccomend or not recommend for first modded playtrough?
heavy sail
!modrecs
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
fossil coyote
What's that mod that shows how long until a plant grows or how long a thing will be in the crytalarium?
heavy sail
UI Info Suite or Lookup Anything @fossil coyote
fossil coyote
Thank you!
oak frost
i dont think that is still up to date?
i wasnt able to see what mod caused it because it crashed
only these 3 right?
==================================
I think its because of the music mod
i removed that and it started the game
but unfortunatly the music mod is needed for stardew valley expanded mod
torn mason
!cmbroke
native dragonBOT
Custom Music mod makes edits to the GMCM code that broke things when GMCM updated to 1.2.0.
For now, remove your GMCM folder and replace it with the older version 1.1 found here under "old files". This will fix the problem. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5098?tab=files
After downgrading, just ignore the GMCM update alert in your log for now.
But keep an eye out for a Custom Music update! When that comes out, you'll finally be able to update both mods to their newest versions without issue. (Yay, new features!)
oak frost
where is that folder located?
fair vessel
Generic Mod Config Menu folder. It's in Mods
oak frost
im impressed that i found that problem
fair vessel
@restive zodiac this is a good point - can we update the command text to say "remove your GenericModConfigMenu folder"? In case the acronym isn't immediately obvious for some
oak frost
got one more question
the latest log only updateswhen an crash happends right?
or even when it works totally fine?
fair vessel
Nah it always gets generated every time you run the game with smapi
oak frost
okay
fair vessel
If it crashes really hard it might make a file called "smapi-crash" instead lol
fair vessel
Looks all good for the mods! Only thing I see is steam is not loaded. If you're on Windows, you might need an extra step if you want to launch the game with Steam to enable steam achievements. Does that interest you?
oak frost
yeah that would be cool
i assume i just change the path to the modded game in steam properties?
fair vessel
Yup. If you need it, you can re-run the smapi installer, the output window will tell you exactly what you need to paste in
oak frost
oh nice
fair vessel
Instructions here under "Part 2: Configure Steam" https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Windows
split nacelle
im up to 200 mods, i think this is a good point to actually start playing 
fair vessel
Do you mean change config files?
outer turret
Also Custom Music doesnt have an updated format number in their manifest so it keeps telling you update avaialble.
fair vessel
Most mods you can't change their config files while the game is running (at least, the changes won't apply)
Generic Mod Config Menu allows mods to opt-in and let you change config stuff from the game menu screen
silver ibex
yeah
outer turret
Ooh! I didnt realize that.
carmine nebula
hey, sorry to interrupt anyone know if i need habbit foot using the multiple spouses mod?
fair vessel
Hmm. Well, try configuring it while the game is not running. If you still experience crashes after that, post a log
silver ibex
I'm on mobile though
actually maybe it's because I'm configuring it from the smapi app
oak frost
@split nacelle what mods are you using?
oak frost
do these mods add alot of items to the game?
split nacelle
yeah, a lot of new recipes and ingredients
fossil coyote
Is there a good mod that makes it so you can save mid day? I don’t always want to play through an entire day.
fair vessel
actually maybe it's because I'm configuring it from the smapi app
@silver ibex what do you mean exactly? Configuration should just be via. text editor in the mod's config.json file
torn mason
mobile smapi comes with a config editor iirc
silver ibex
nono by the app
fair vessel
@fossil coyote there is Save Anywhere, but be warned - it is incompatible and causes crashes with a loooot of other mods
mobile smapi comes with a config editor iirc
😮 it whaaaaaat
split nacelle
@oak frost you can check this one, along with it's requirements https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1670
fair vessel
How u use this
torn mason
there's a config tab in the installer
and mods that have a config will have a little edit button
silver ibex
^
outer turret
I got excited by hybrid crops but I can o my grow garsnips... so fad
fair vessel
Thank u I learn new things 
silver ibex
what's a garsnips
dire fractal
do these mods add alot of items to the game?
@oak frost yep and that means more processing time and substantial lag if your phone doesn't handle it
fair vessel
garlic+parsnip hybrid crop
swift pecan
does anyone have any experience with the unlimited players mod on a pre-existing co-op file? My friends and I want to add in some more people ut we dont want to get a lot of progress done just for it to break or something.
fair vessel
The unlimited players mod should be fine. Only the host needs to install it. It only makes very minimal changes to the game.
oak frost
@split nacelle thats like 50 mods i need to download
isnt there a way to download all independencies too?
fair vessel
It will allow you to build new cabins above the normal limit. You still need to build a cabin for each new player (the cabin is connected to their player data and save info)
Robin builds cabins instantly when purchased and they are cheap
swift pecan
Okay thank you so much
torn mason
PPJA does has one mega pack that has most of the base PPJA packs contained in one
split nacelle
looks like it was removed from nexus, at least i cant find it anymore, it's still in moddrop tho
torn mason
In terms of all the other requirements, JA, Spacecore ( which is required by JA) and MFM are the kind of framework mods you'll probably need anyways as so many mods rely on them
oak frost
i downloaded them 1 by 1. hope i got everything and if its compatible with the other 40 mods
split nacelle
oh i was searching it wrong
fair vessel
Nexus search is 🤦
split nacelle
argo you should be good! some people had issues with dupe mods, by getting the pack and individual ones
split nacelle
looks like you got multiple copies, did you get the mega pack along with the individual mods?
oak frost
no
fair vessel
Yeah, if you comb through the log, every error that says you have multiple copies of this mod installed tells you where the two copies are located.
oak frost
some mods had the same independencies and i downloaded it twice maybe
fair vessel
You do have Mods\PPJA Mega Pack\ installed.
oak frost
i dont
split nacelle
it says it's there, try double checking
fair vessel
The log tells you the file exists on your computer. Unless you removed it already and posted an old log?
split nacelle
hmm i wonder if it's bundled with one of the other mods
onyx osprey
quick question
broken frost
I was going to ask if you could still download mods you submitted to Nexus that later got deleted, but the mod I remember talking to about that doesn't seem to be here.
split nacelle
shaved ice mod needs the ever more recipes mod, you if want to keep it, you need this https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1742 if not you can take that mod off
broken frost
I kinda want to install my old EB music mod, but the hard drive the files were on died months ago.
onyx osprey
if i download the cbj menu, can i copy the folder itself or do i have to only copy the files in the .zip?
like copy the assets, the .json, etc. Or can i copy the whole folder?
torn mason
you want the entire mod folder
onyx osprey
so when i extract the file and it makes a folder called "CBJ Menu" i copy it all?
split nacelle
the harvest with scythe mod seems old, try this instead https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2731
torn mason
The scythe mod looks like it has a broken manifest
yeah I was about to say, kind of sounds like its some super old mod that used a different manifest format or something lol
split nacelle
also All Villagers
onyx osprey
oh, okay, thank you very much
split nacelle
i recommend this instead for the portraits + sprites https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2449
also this since you got SVE
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5975/
(there are slightly cuter alts if you check our the desc if you want those)
oak frost
which one do i have now?
split nacelle
ALL Villagers[3-1-17] i think ? it's an old xnb mod
oak frost
only remove these mods then and add the 2 you suggested?
split nacelle
just the All Villagers, if you already have Seasonal Villager Outfits, just add the SVE one
oh yes i see you already have Seasonal Villager Outfits
split nacelle
oak frost
and this
split nacelle
that should be ok, unless you want to have custom animals
oak frost
Its just updated sprites right?
split nacelle
i think like actual added animals like bulls and stuff
oak frost
split nacelle
oh those are just sprite updates, you should be good
oak frost
okay i see
split nacelle
does your game run now?
oak frost
last log i hope: https://smapi.io/log/a8852bc125d34bb28455e04cb590ceec
split nacelle
looks good to me, you just have to launch it with steam
oak frost
yes and need to update the experience mod to next version
but the site doesnt have the newest version for some reason
broken frost
Bah, I forgot, most of my music in the pack won't load for some reason
And I'm too lazy to remake it.
split nacelle
no
fair vessel
No, ignore the beta
broken frost
Just ignore it
oak frost
it says update to latest version wghich is an beta
fair vessel
That's because the beta is posted to nexus and smapi doesn't know better
split nacelle
yeah the updates are not necessary, it's just a notif that theres a newer version
fair vessel
Higher numbers = needs an update according to smapi
broken frost
Generic Mod Config Menu says it needs an update too, but the new update and Custom Music don't get along.
oak frost
okay
fair vessel
Ignore that gmcm notification too until you see a Custom Music update notice
oak frost
just scared that i might start world and suddenly something goes wrong and i lose everything
fair vessel
Pretty unlikely don't worry! If you're nervous, you can make a backup copy of your whole save folder somewhere else on your computer
(which is a good idea to begin with)
split nacelle
cant wait for angry grandpa to disown me at y3 lmao
oak frost
im suprised so many mods can work together without many problems
torn mason
there's also https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/435 if you want more paranoid auto backup than the normal save backup
fair vessel
And running the game with smapi starts to keep automatic save backups for you too. Up to 10 IRL days worth
oak frost
thats good
split nacelle
yeah you should be good agro i crashed all the time my save is still fine lol
fair vessel
And if you want even moar automatic save backups, you can get the Advanced Save Backup mod
Oh Cherry linked it
untold widget
Is there any mod that decreases/does not increases the size of the bedroom after getting the second house upgrade?
fair vessel
Hm, I'm not sure. It is quite big, isn't it.
I've seen people decorate by walling off the lower portion into like an office or sitting room to make the remaining bedroom space more cosy
I haven't seen any mods to shrink the room size, though
untold widget
Aw shucks, okay. Thanks for answering, though! 
oak frost
i think i ahve a dupe mod
fair vessel
You have both UI Info Suite and NPC Map Locations installed
Open UI Info Suite settings from the player menu in-game, and disable the show NPC locations feature
(NPC Map Locations mod does a better job of this esp. for SVE, so you'll want to use that one for this feature)
rigid stag
I have two issues, one I have the seasonal garden farmhouse that gives you an extended interior and anytime I try to click on the kitchen All i hear is a clicking noise and my avatar is moving very glitchy-like across the interior, it stps if i exit the house but continues once Im inside, same goes for going to bed. On reddit they told me it was because of a recipe mod, I dont know which one.
fair vessel
Ooh this reminds me of something I saw recently in another person's log
If you can post your log it might help diagnose
rigid stag
The second issue I have is after I added two mods today, The game would load but as soon as I clicked my save file I have to wait a long time, start hearing the spring music but not see the screen brighten. If I click it tells me to either wait or close program and then I`m back to square one.
fair vessel
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
fair vessel
Which 2 mods did you add?
rigid stag
SAturn`s oriental recipes and tropic farm
And for some reason the Smapi.io isnt loading when I transfer the file
fair vessel
Oh. Maybe it's a really large log file?
If you need to, upload your smapi log file directly to discord here
Messier, but I'll see if I can open and look through it
rigid stag
How do I do that?
fair vessel
Just use the upload file option on discord and find it on your computer
Or drag and drop the file right into the discord channel
rigid stag
okay....just to warn I have a lot of mods
fair vessel
Haha unless you have like 800+, I assure you I've seen worse :P
Wait though, what are you thinking of uploading?
You did find the log file called SMAPI-latest.txt?
rigid stag
fair vessel
Perf
rigid stag
Basically I have SVE and a bunch of PPJAs for more crops and Otems variety.
Items, I meant items
fair vessel
Hmm, so it looks like you have some Json Assets errors that are being cause by multiple mods trying to add items with the same names 🤔
And also some map errors that look like SVE stuff... but I'm not too sure on the details of those yet
rigid stag
So what do you suggest I do?
fair vessel
I'm still looking through it - it's much slower without the websiite
I would probably start by uninstalling the mods you had just added and seeing if we can get a new log with reduced errors
Oh, I found one thing
You should grab the newer unofficial updates for Custom Farming Redux and Custom Farming Automate Bridge - v2.12.10-unofficial.1-minervamaga for both
You can always find links to any unofficial updates for broken mods at https://smapi.io/mods
rigid stag
So just remove the two mods and then try to run the game to see how it goes for now?
fair vessel
Remove the two new ones, add the Custom Farming and CFAutomate updates, then run again yes
dire fractal
I'm poking a thing as well, so assuming this doesn't detonate violently stay tuned 😉
dire fractal
The issue is 55 megs is a lot of glyphs
https://smapi.io/log/acdf3c5643344a2a9da02012c93cbf26 there's the first 2200 lines or so
almost everything from there to like 520,000 or so is a variation on the same error, I think
then it turns into PyTK blowing up
fair vessel
eep lol
split nacelle
omg
fair vessel
I found another thing. There are two mods or content packs that want to edit a bunch of the interior maps. One is for CP and one is for PyTK. If we find the duplicate, that could clean up a lot.
dire fractal
and here's the end of the log where it flips around between a couple types of errors from jsonassets
rigid stag
Ok so downloaded the unnoficial updates you suggested and removed the two mods to my desktop and running it now to see if it works, wish me luck?
fair vessel
lots of PFM warnings too 🤔
K so SVE is the mod that's doing all the town interior building edits through PyTK. Just gotta find now which CP mod is trying to do the same.
native dragonBOT
Karmylla's Immersive Maps and Stardew Valley Expanded are no longer compatible. Remove one of them to fix the error. (When downloading a mod update, make sure to read the file description for update instructions!)
fair vessel
Oh. Thaaaaat would do it.
rigid stag
REmoving right away, can't believe i forgot that one
lapis void
they haven't been compatible for a few months now haha, haven't seen that error in a while
fair vessel
Man I miss the nice website parser and modlist at the top lol 
dire fractal
That's why I sent you a log link with the modlist and first hunk of errors Jonqora :p
rigid stag
No I knew it wasn't compatible, i just forgot about it in the exitement of new added mods
fair vessel
I missed that! beautiful
dire fractal
But here, this might be the most useful we can do, size-wise https://smapi.io/log/641188565d214848938eddcc43754692
Full log, minus all lines past the first from each stack trace. (in theory, pattern exclusion)
When it's only ~12 MB it actually loads!
LOL Json Assets
dire fractal
Oh the parsed page is angry AF on pc even. Scrolling down takes a while to render and chrome is a little mad at me
fair vessel
@rigid stag another minor thing for you. Not the source of all the big errors, but one of your mods isn't loading because it needs this one to work https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3642
dire fractal
Pathoschild in about five minutes: Whelp, banning mana's IP forever 
fair vessel
Something I'm confused by in the Json Assets errors. It even has stuff like Exception injecting weapon information for Tempered Galaxy Dagger: System.ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added.
Tempered Galaxy Dagger is SVE stuffs. How come it's complaining, does it mean the dagger is being added twice by something?
🤔
dire fractal
Was SVE updated at any point without blowing away the SVE directories fully? I think it changed format once or twice.
lapis void
when one item with the same name is added, JA throws errors for EVERY SINGLE OTHER ITEM
fair vessel
I wish the Json Assets errors would mention which mod was adding the problem item
lapis void
you're looking for a little line of red saying "objectxyz just added by modxyz, already added by modabc!"
fair vessel
when one item with the same name is added, JA throws errors for EVERY SINGLE OTHER ITEM
...oh. Oh my.
dire fractal
So JSON Assets:
🚫
🔥 🔥 💥
?
lapis void
pretty much yup
dire fractal
(practicing communicating like the youths)
lapis void
let me grab my laptop and see if i can help, i've dealt with many JA tantrums
dire fractal
For the future - super lazy (as in collateral damage totally possible) 'drop most of each stack trace and dump into a new file' grep solution to make the file upload-able:
grep -Ev '(^ +at )' SMAPI-latest.txt > TEST_FILE_PLEASE_IGNORE.txt
needs *nix or cygwin on windows for grep
fair vessel
Was SVE updated at any point without blowing away the SVE directories fully? I think it changed format once or twice.
@dire fractal i didn't see any outdated SVE packs or folders, so I think all clear on that front
dire fractal
cool
lapis void
System.ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added.```..............
dire fractal
I was making total guesses about duplicate tempered galaxy stuff, like maybe multiple asset dirs or something XD
lapis void
helpful
dire fractal
hrm
should it actually error multiple times for the thing actually being duplicated?
fair vessel
I wonder, would Json Assets start throwing weird errors like that if some pack added a modded item with the same name as a vanilla item?
rigid stag
Im still waiting for that test run without the mods I took out sorry Im not responding
dire fractal
... some of the json asset names repeat 67 times
in different error lines
actually up to 77 times
sooo, hopefully the answer to my question was 'no'
lapis void
can you do a quick check for me if you have two objects named flower soda? i notice you have the soda maker pack for flower sodas and i know there was an update that fixed an incorrectly added "flower soda" item that could possibly have been eaten by nexus
(there should be one from PPJA and that's it, the object name was fixed to flower flavored soda in the soda maker pack)
dire fractal
these ones?
66 Ancient Flower Soda
67 Flower Soda
66 Passion Flower Soda
66 Purple Coneflower Soda
66 Sunflower Soda
(realize the question isn't directed to me)
keen moss
There's a few in there I could see having conflicts just from the names but I'm not familiar with all of these packs.
lapis void
that could very well be it, if that's all from the soda maker pack mana
besides the stuff you added, what JA mods did you update recently?
dire fractal
While their test is churning, would it help your investigation to see a (much more condensed) list of item names it's complaining about?
lapis void
possibly, but the ones it flips out about tend to be pretty random after it discovers a duplicate Somewhere
rigid stag
Is it bad?
lapis void
we're just trying to figure out which two of your mods have added items with the same name
rigid stag
And about the list of updated mods... Some of them are called beta i dont know what that means...
lapis void
don't worry about that for right now! it just means there's a more recent release that the mod's author would like people to test out and may not be stable
could you search your mods folder for flower soda? that's my first suspicion
rigid stag
One second
lapis void
i was actually wondering about which mods you had most recently downloaded updates for, not which mods SMAPI is telling you to update! i know you added a couple, but some JA mods that were recently updated could have added more objects, too
fickle harbor
i just clicked my mailbox in-game and the game froze completely
but i see no errors in smapi console
what gives?
lapis void
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
lapis void
at the very least a list of your mods will help, and SMAPI has "trace" messages that can show us what's being edited right before it freezes
fickle harbor
yeah, getting the log
fickle harbor
works fine now on restart so nvm
rigid stag
Ok, checking for flower soda in files
spark badge
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1993?tab=description
i'm using elle's seasonal buildings mod and though it works, it ignores all of the personal settings i choose. regardless of what recolours i pick, it makes everything white
dire fractal
!log ClearlyNotChloe could we see your SMAPI log? 🙂
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
rigid stag
Okay @lapis void I have six files that contain the words 'flower' and 'soda' but they all have other words too
spark badge
there's no real error when using the mod, it's just not.. using my settings?
it's not even providing a "blah blah was ignored because jfdkasljadsklfd"
it's providing no error messages but isn't using my preferred recolours
dire fractal
*nod
torn mason
I don't see any recolours on that log at all
fair vessel
@spark badge can we see your config file? You can upload it to https://smapi.io/json
lapis void
it would be a folder named flower soda
rigid stag
There is
lapis void
are there two?
lapis void
probably the best way to figure out what the duplicate item is would be to remove one JA mod at a time
spark badge
https://smapi.io/json/none/662e08b02a644d0eb94ec9c3e54200b1 im assuming this is what you mean, otherwise lmk
however when loading, it's set to what i assume are the defaults? mostly browns and whites
fair vessel
Can you share a screenshot of what you're seeing?
spark badge
sure, just let me start it back up rq
rigid stag
@lapis void Do you think I should try running SMAPI again?
fair vessel
@spark badge small note i see on the downloads page, did you happen to have an earlier version of the mod before?
If you had version 1.1.1 of this mod, delete your previous version before installing update 1.2.0+ (including your config)!
lapis void
have you removed the new mods you added? try it and see what happens
rigid stag
Ok
spark badge
i did previously, but i deleted it as i was running into the same issue
i tried again upon getting a new computer
also here's how it appears, this is a test file i made earlier but it appears this way in my other saves as well
rigid stag
Ok now I only have to wait
dire fractal
@rigid stag if it still breaks, try throwing up a new log as well please (or upload to discord and I can probably cut it down if it's too big for the parser/browser again)
fair vessel
I see - that definitely seems like it's using White theme and not Color
spark badge
i don't believe it's the right farmhouse type either
and it's definitely ignoring cabin settings
fair vessel
Farmhouse style Rustic, that looks correct
split nacelle
not chloe i think your building theme should be either Elle/Vanilla/Starblue/Eemie
narrow wigeon
regarding wall color, i think the mod desc says it only affects upgraded houses
split nacelle
nvm mine is purple 
fair vessel
Theme options are Color/Brick/White
fair vessel
regarding wall color, i think the mod desc says it only affects upgraded houses
Oh! Yeah this might be it!
narrow wigeon
i vaguely remember being confused about that at some point haha
fair vessel
Lemme check the assets under Starblue Color
spark badge
i can load a file with an upgraded house and see if it changes
narrow wigeon
fingers crossed 🤞
split nacelle
i think thats what happened to me 
split nacelle
i was confused too but forgot about it then it turned pink right after
spark badge
ha! it appears the problem,,,,, is that im dumb 
fair vessel
It's ok haha. This recolor mod is blessed/cursed with a LOT of options lol
spark badge
thank you for your time, i appreciate it. i thought i was doing something wrong
dire fractal
Nah, I'd plunk that down in the "this is clearly confusing" box
split nacelle
youre good i was confused before too (still am, my default state)
royal arrow
it also took me a hot second to set up Elle’s Seasonal Buildings. Kept having to refer to all the reference images and intensely stare at them to be sure
dire fractal
Lenne returns and scrolls up and it's just the pizza+fire_spinning+gunshot_wound scene from community.
royal arrow
(I watched very little of that show, 'twas not my cup of tea)
dire fractal
(Same, actually)
royal arrow
ANYWAYS I SHOULD JUST PLAY THE GAME I: Lol I keep checking nexus for new or updated mods, and herpin and derpin as if I'm going to work on my mod projects (that quest mod though). Blegh. I'd ask uber bot to choose but I'd probably do the opposite of what it says
split nacelle
i tried it till s3 LOL i still dont kinda like it, was mostly watching for bg noise
me 
i think ill stop at 201 mods , at this rate i wont ever finish
fair vessel
@devout pumice please tell LenneDalben#5763 not to play Stardew Valley 
royal arrow
You wish, it'll overtake you, and end up with 5+ playthroughs, all in various stages, and--what, it IS based on a true story
dire fractal
Just flip a coin - heads you go look for mods, tails you go create more mods
and lands on edge you go play for 5 minutes before knocking over the coin and doing the other options 👼
rigid stag
I started up the game and it still won't work I am listening to the music while a very dark silhouette of my house is visible. And now it tells me that its not responding
split nacelle
can we see the log again jasmine?
split nacelle
hmm maybe just drop it in here for now
dire fractal
yeah, if it's huge I can try cutting it back
dire fractal
393,682. I wasn't far off
Modlist and log up to the error storm start (for easier browsing) https://smapi.io/log/14783ff8fc2348bd9afa2d1c34e9b43b
rigid stag
Do you think I should reinstall al json assets
dire fractal
I think @lapis void suggested removing them one at a ... never mind they're typing
lapis void
that won't help any, the issue is with two mods adding the same item
yeah pff
i'm lurking
dire fractal
https://smapi.io/log/498faae7c2274e0492a3390947b4d2d1 full log, minus the method calls for stack traces
lapis void
here's something we can try... i use a ton of JA mods but a few of these aren't on my mod list, let me grab my own log and compare and you can try removing the ones that i don't have (since all the others should theoretically work together)
rigid stag
No problemo
dire fractal
and my apologies to pathoschild if I'm beating the crud out of a server :<
rigid stag
What does it mean if a mod says it's updatable but when you check on the page it has not been updated since you downloaded it
lapis void
you do still need to update custom music btw, the version bundled with SVE is out of date :/
royal arrow
It's because the version # wasn't updated in the manifest.json file, it happens @rigid stag
rigid stag
I will do that now
fair vessel
(i.e. it was just a small mistake by the author; no need to update it it will say the same thing)
@rigid stag i found something to maybe investigate. Can you check the config file for your More Grass mod?
lapis void
okay, the only ones that i don't have:
cannabis kit
christmas pudding
writer's valley```See if the option to enable winter grass is turned on. If yes, it could cause a problem (because winter grass mod already does that). So More Grass should have it disabled.
rigid stag
I got cannabis kit and writers valley
fair vessel
Ooh, isn't Cannabis Kit the one that two other people recently came in here having trouble with? 🤔
I don't think we were able to resolve their issues either. I suggest removing that one.
rigid stag
Ck isnt update because I did wanna try the beta
lapis void
oh, do you have the beta version of that?
rigid stag
No
lapis void
hmmm
the beta works with a new mod, hybrid crop engine, so that's likely what was causing issues for other people
rigid stag
Plus it said optional
lapis void
maybe another mod is adding something called christmas pudding?
rigid stag
Lemme check
split nacelle
i think someone was having issues with the cannabis kit earlier
lapis void
can you try removing those four that i listed and see what happens?
fair vessel
(i was wrong, Cannabis Kit is different from the cannabis mod that had issues)
(keeping Cannabis Kit should be fine)
split nacelle
oh i just saw what you said qora
lapis void
those are the only JA mods that you have that i don't have, and i know all of mine work together
however it is possible some of mine have been personal-edited to get around conflicts that the author didn't fix
and hell if i remember which ones esp bc i share a mods folder with my multiplayer game so who even knows who did the editing
rigid stag
I will remove the Christmas pudding one cause I don't know why I downloaded that
royal arrow
Jonqora prefers Qora, or full name 😊 (assuming you meant Jonqora )
split nacelle
oops noted 
rigid stag
So in the mod More Grass the Can grass grow in winter is false but true for can grass live in wijter
lapis void
moonjasmine, do you know how to find your save file? i suddenly had a suspicion--it's possible you have a bugged item in a chest (often this happens with flower honey from a mod) and that's why JA is freaking out
rigid stag
I don't think thats it because I recently downloaded SVE and started a new file. I'm not eve 20 into spring yet.
All my other save files were deleted
lapis void
it's still a possibility, item IDs get shuffled when you download a new JA mod and it's possible that something in your chests or inventory turned into an error item
rigid stag
Okay, how do I do that?
lapis void
you know the folder where you find your SMAPI log? go back from that and there'll be a saves folder
in there you should have a folder that looks like "yourfarmername_1238493249", if you can zip that with a program like 7zip and send the zipped file here i can take a look
lapis void
pfff notepad++ decided it needed to update and then freeze on me, so i'll get back to you
rigid stag
Only thing that opens on my laptop
Quick question, does it do anything to the game if you change the name of a crop?
lapis void
of one of the JA ones? it will probably shuffle the JA ids around which can cause some weirdness but generally isn't gamebreaking
i'm poking through your save, nothing's immediately standing out as Super Broken
when i finish this day in my game i'll try opening it and see if i can reproduce the error you're having
tired apex
For all ya'll using Night Owl and Deep woods, uh, don't pass out there or it'll do this
rigid stag
The only tiny change i did was instead of soja i made it soybean
tired apex
I can't even upload my log without my pc crashing
royal arrow
What you could do is copy from the very top of the log to the end of the first error, and try putting that to log.smapi.io. That may be enough o:
fair vessel
So in the mod More Grass the Can grass grow in winter is false but true for can grass live in wijter
@rigid stag hmm. Since you aren't in winter it's less likely to be causing issues you're right, but we should still fix it just in case. Change the More Grass "can live in winter" setting to false then.
lapis void
........................that's what it is
most likely
i'm pretty sure another one of these mods adds an object named soybean
rigid stag
Well there are two files called soybean, but one is about the plant and the other is the harvestable part
lapis void
hmmm
yeah that may not be what it is either then?? i think it started stalling out on hats first too which is very odd
tired apex
https://smapi.io/json/none/930ca7a907c04da4bcc491989da213c5 @royal arrow here have some fun
lapis void
aha! you have the names flipped in the crop.json
"Product": "Soybean",
"SeedName": "Soybean Seeds",```That's json.smapi.io, you need log.smapi.io, General Alexis o: (json.smapi.io is a validator for mod files, log.smapi.io is the log parser 
)
tired apex
Ah heck
round path
is custom wallpaper and flooring worth downloading?
I heard it's a bit buggy, so I'm not sure
royal arrow
Nunu, you need to go to another site entirely, although it's linked in the left pane
lapis void
@rigid stag try changing those three fields in the crop.json file (where you have Soybean seeds as the name and Soybean as the seed name)
rigid stag
Just did
lapis void
i think that may fix it
tired apex
rigid stag
Should I try to start up SMAPI
royal arrow
That's json.smapi.io, you need log.smapi.io, General Alexis o: (json.smapi.io is a validator for mod files, log.smapi.io is the log parser
tired apex
THERE IT IS
lapis void
yes go for it! fingers crossed that was the issue
rigid stag
I'm sorry I bothered you so much
tired apex
Lmao 1 error
lapis void
no worries at all! i enjoy solving weird JA puzzles haha
rigid stag
What does this mean?
tired apex
https://smapi.io/log/93395dd06c4f405fa7d1405d0c556917 here is the actual log 
rigid stag
royal arrow
General Alexis, did you copy from the very top of the log down to the end of the first error? Or just the errors
tired apex
If I tried to go from the very top to the error, my pc would crash
royal arrow
Ah, ok, so incomplete log gotcha lol
tired apex
Also, you can just call me Alexis 
fair vessel
Oh, lol
Well we do need the starting stuff
tired apex
I'll get that for ye
lapis void
oh hmm, moonjasmine did you leave the zipped file in there with the saves? maybe it's freaking out about that
fair vessel
At least all the stuff that includes mods loading and related messaged up until you load the save game and a bit after
lapis void
but if it does delete some of your progress, i can send that save folder right back to you at least!
i would just click through the play game button and hope it works haha
fair vessel
@tired apex is this a MP game or singleplayer btw?
tired apex
Single, luckily
https://smapi.io/log/c7d2baff98e448dd9016ae5f137b0c47 here's from when I loaded up the game to when my son did his chores
(Patted the animals]
fair vessel
@tired apex can you share from the start of the log to savegame load?
rigid stag
These mods may be a real doozy, but they sure make my game play much more entertaining
lapis void
oh yeah i have like 700+ (a lot of recolors and stuff to be fair, but still), i am no stranger to debugging Gigantic Logs lmaoooo
tired apex
BFAV is being whiny :/
lapis void
<33 did it work?
tired apex
Took me a bit to find where it said it loaded my save but I eventually found it https://smapi.io/log/d74219e650df4db28c1fbe6108071dcc
I also want to know why BFAV is so whiny about deluxe products but that can be dealt with later
fair vessel
Hmm. I see you're using Night Owl. That may cause issues with a number of other mods that deal with save data and newday stuff. What was going on when the errors all started happening?
tired apex
I passed out in the deep woods
fair vessel
Oh lol
tired apex
LMAO
rigid stag
Do you think I can try to see what causes the glitch when I try to use the kitchen?
tired apex
Darn, caps
fair vessel
Heh, I dunno what advice to give, except uh... maybe try not doing that? 😅
Are you okay to load your game or did the crash cause lasting issues?
fair vessel
Well, 🤞 
tired apex
Though it was fun to give you all a scare with that log 
fair vessel
(dw, the save backups cya if necessary)
lapis void
i'm not sure what causes the kitchen glitch, but try opening and closing your fridge a few times?
that's worked for me
fair vessel
Do you think I can try to see what causes the glitch when I try to use the kitchen?
@rigid stag sure thing! If other stuff is working now, try getting us a log with the error by opening the game, using the kitchen to get the clicking noise, and then closing it and sharing the log
rigid stag
Okay imma do that
fair vessel
hey guys! I've been dealing with an issue in the game for a little while now and thought I fixed it, but I unfortunately did not :/ everytime I go to click on the stove in my kitchen, the click noise keeps repeating itself fast and my character kinda glitches as well. I was able to stop the glitch by moving out of the house but still don't know how to resolve the issue
It's definitely an issue people have run into before, as seen here
fair vessel
Hm! Someone else who had this same issue managed to fix it by removing Bonster's Recipes. I see you have the same mod. Wanna try disabling that mod and try again?
(Just rename the Bonsters Recipes folder by adding a . in front of the current folder name)
rigid stag
it is not the first time I had this issue, when I first downloaded JA mods it happened as well, but it stopped soon, don't know why though, new=ver did find out.
So just make it .Bonster`s R?cipes
.Bonster`s Recipes?
fair vessel
yup
fair vessel
Uh, probably just the recipes one is fine, but disabling all 3 Bonster folders would work too
rigid stag
lets try just recepies for now, I also noticed that my savefile avatar lacked clothing.....
Okay take two
Nope still glitched
fair vessel
lets try just recepies for now, I also noticed that my savefile avatar lacked clothing.....
Haha this is an unfortunate side effect of JA clothing. It only loads after opening savefile, so the avatar on the loading screen can't wear it 😅
rigid stag
When i clicked to close the fridge or whatever it said kitchen appliance in use try again later
fair vessel
weird
rigid stag
Diaabling all bonster files?
fair vessel
That is usually only seen in multiplayer games when someone else is using the fridge
Sure, give it a try
(and post the log from this attempt too)
naive drum
Do you have cooking skill or the unofficial update of quality products
fair vessel
(they have neither of those)
fair vessel
Sure
rigid stag
Now I have two save files that look exactly the same
fair vessel
Whaaat
Well uh, try loading one and see what happens >.>
If it loads, try exiting and load the other
This is a new twist
(Also I looked at the log, it seem's it's another An item with the same key has already been added. error. So somewhere, something has duplicate item names and there's no easy way to find out which)
rigid stag
Okay. Going with door numbuh 1
Ok it works,
Ill go for the kitchen
It glitched but it definitely comes from the kitchen cause wheb i clicked on the fridge i could hear the seoud of iy open and close
fair vessel
rigid stag
Want me to share log again?
fair vessel
sure
rigid stag
Are you okay?
fair vessel
yeah I'm fine 😅
This might be a really hard one to track down though. You might have to try disabling groups of mods at a time, and when you finally get the error to stop, try re-adding them one by one in order to help solve the mystery of which 2 mods contain conflicting items
fast river
(Item with the same key doesn't always mean duplicate items. Just FYI)
rigid stag
The JA files right?
fair vessel
Help us oh wise one, what could it mean? 😅
fast river
This seems crafting recipe related?
rigid stag
Well the Json assests ones, not content patcher or pfm or tmx?
fast river
I don't see any JA errors. Lots of warnings from missing items though
rigid stag
So which ones should I remove?
fair vessel
I think a lot of the missing items seem to be from Fruits and Veggies for JsonAssets. But you have it there - or at least the Polish version. Have you used that version for long? I wonder if it could somehow be causing an issue
fair vessel
Weird. It says you do have the polish version
rigid stag
But look in the log
fair vessel
I'm looking
[POLISH] Fruits and Veggies for JsonAssets 2.0.10
So maybe delete that folder yeah, and re-download the one from main files
rigid stag
Okay
fair vessel
(The folder doesn't say polish btw, it just says [PPJA] Fruits and Veggies)
rigid stag
Yes and the polish one is under optional right?
fair vessel
yep
rigid stag
Why does it say that there are updatable mods when there aren't?
Okay the fruits and veggies ppja file is done
Im gonna try to log in to the save file
No extra save file this time
Nope, sorry...
Do you think it's because the house is not upgraded so it clashes?
Anyway I am thinking of stopping for tonight. Ita 1 am and I getting tired. Maybe we can fix it another day ?
naive drum
SMAPI compares the version number in a mod's manifest with the highest version number on its update key page
if there's a typo in the version file, or if the author updated an optional file or whatever and didn't use update subkeys, SMAPI can't tell the update alert is irrelevant/false
rigid stag
So it mistakes optiona files that were added later as updates?
fair vessel
Yes. All the smapi update alert does is compare version numbers. If a file exists with a higher version number, it assumes it is an update.
rigid stag
Okay now I know why, 
fair vessel
So if a file on nexus is labelled as say, 1.3.0, but when you download it the manifest has a small error and the author still has 1.2.0 in there,
Smapi will look at it and be all "Hmm, this file on your computer says 1.2.0 in the manifest... But Nexusmods says there's a file labelled 1.3.0! That one must be new! Here's the link, you should update this mod."
hardy ice
hi I updated some mods and all of a sudden my stardew won't work, the logs say it's something with smapi. Should I just be reinstalling SMAPI? https://smapi.io/log/cfff734c25dc44e6ab3a283002cc7966
not sure if this is the right place to ask
I had to update Automate, content patcher, generic mod config menu, and pytk so I assume it's one of those causing the error?
fair vessel
yup!
dire fractal
the gcmc thing again?
fair vessel
!cmbroke
native dragonBOT
Custom Music mod makes edits to the GMCM code that broke things when GMCM updated to 1.2.0.
For now, remove your GMCM folder and replace it with the older version 1.1 found here under "old files". This will fix the problem. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5098?tab=files
After downgrading, just ignore the GMCM update alert in your log for now.
But keep an eye out for a Custom Music update! When that comes out, you'll finally be able to update both mods to their newest versions without issue. (Yay, new features!)
dire fractal
I couldn't remember the ! command :<
hardy ice
thanks (:
candid pawn
hi again, just got a crash on my game and trying to find out why? https://smapi.io/log/6a45f20802ed4fd69652f526571c5553
cedar flare
Mana - just wanted to let you know that disabling winter grass in the MoreGrass mod seems to have stopped my game freezing when playing multiplayer with my sister (finally!) Thanks so much for pointing it out!
dire fractal
Awesome! Thank you for reporting back as well. It's good to spread knowledge like that. 😄
lapis void
ruunya, i'm not seeing a crash in that log? it does look like farmer has wing is missing some assets (i believe you have to install those separately? i'm not sure) which CP isn't loading
the last thing it did was build spouse rooms for sophia and riley from multiple spouses and remove mister ginger since the mod was removed
candid pawn
i updated ginger but missed a file so that is what was removed. the wing mod was working fine for a while so i can see way that would cause it, i adding some new shirts to be sold at Tailor Mouse, i think i added too many so removed all but one
lapis void
it looks like mr. ginger isn't installed at all though, that yellow message is what happens when you remove a custom NPC entirely
royal arrow
@fair vessel hehe did you ever solve which setting it was in FTM to lower the monster spawn to improve performance issue with SVE o: ?
round path
I downloaded Yellog's Furniture and the bed and kitchen that came with it, but the vanilla furniture is over it. For the life of me, I can't figure out what's causing it. I removed all tilesheets that edited the farmhouse that don't belong to Yellog's mod, but the vanilla is still overlayed. Anyone have any ideas?
don't mind the mess lol I just upgraded the house
and I'm using Seasonal Garden Farmhouse V2, if that helps any
royal arrow
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
royal arrow
There's likely a conflict so SMAPI is like "forget this mess I'm only loading vanilla files! 
"
dire fractal
You can't make me load that! You're not my real dad!
fair vessel
@fair vessel hehe did you ever solve which setting it was in FTM to lower the monster spawn to improve performance issue with SVE o: ?
lol nope. So I just checked now. It'sMonsterLimitPerLocation
round path
here u go!
I get to see a little bit peeking out, but only a little
shy furniture
royal arrow
Does Witchy Gothic Interior replace any of the same stuff as Yellog’s?
round path
it did, the bed and kitchen. I edited the file so it doesn't do that anymore.
or, it shouldn't
fair vessel
@round path I think it might be Starblue valley. Try disabling that - if it works, we can look into ways to make them work together
round path
loading the game now, fingers crossed
I hope they can work together lol, I cannot stand how yellow vanilla is
yup, it was starblue
royal arrow
A Less Yellow Stardew is also a thing it was my first map recolor 
fair vessel
Okay. So here are the edits we need to tweak
[CP]Yellog's Furniture loaded TileSheets\furniture.
[CP]Yellog's kitchen and bed loaded Maps\farmhouse_tiles.
Right now yellog's mods are Loading, and then Starblue is Editing. Loading always happens first.
round path
fair vessel
What we can do is change the Yellog mods to EditImage instead of Load, and then add a dependency in their manifest that will make sure the yellog edits are made after the Starblue edits.
round path
idk if a less yellow stardew works with my farm map tho ;o;
fair vessel
Downside, you will lose any changes that Starblue makes to the farmhouse interior or to the furniture graphics
royal arrow
(yea I don't either, but Jonqora is setting you up for success here with Starblue o: )
fair vessel
But all of Starblue's changes elsewhere in the game will remain.
round path
lol that's fine, I use custom furniture and walls and floors
opaque bramble
Sorry to interrupt, but I was wondering how someone would go about using mods on Android? I already have smapi, and a Nexus account. What else is needed?
fair vessel
(If that sounds OK, we can proceed lol. There are ways to make them even more compatible, but it would require more fussy image editing than i'm prepared to walk someone though 😅 )
royal arrow
Have you seen the getting started guide? It walks you through all the steps https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
fair vessel
Did you get android smapi @opaque bramble?
opaque bramble
No, I haven't seen the guide, Lenne. Thank you.
fair vessel
Once that's installed to your phone and set up, everything else is just downloading, unzipping, and copying mod folders.
opaque bramble
And yes, I have downloaded smapi
fair vessel
(and troubleshooting and crying when mods don't work lol)
round path
(sounds good to me!)
fair vessel
(smapi for android specifically, not the one on the smapi website or on nexus)
round path
(let's see if it works)
fair vessel
OK so open up the content.json for one of the yellog mods
opaque bramble
Oh, I got mine from github