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#archived-modded-support
fair vessel
tiny roost
ok
fair vessel
There's just the one entry.
<isMale>true</isMale> = male character
<isMale>false</isMale> = female character
tiny roost
ah okay
so what about my cloth it automatically change to from female shirt to male shirt?
fair vessel
It will all change automatically yes.
tiny roost
okay
fair vessel
The shirts are dynamic, they are made to look different depending on the player data
fair vessel
🤔 hmm.
You were making the edits in the original YourName_3216713162 folder inside the game Saves folder, right? Not in the backup copy of the save I had you make?
tiny roost
no on the original game file
fair vessel
Ok hm. Can you share a screenshot of the inside of the YourName_3216713162 folder?
tiny roost
fair vessel
Ah I mean in file explorer, where you can see the YourName_3216713162, YourName_3216713162_old, SaveGameInfo, SaveGameInfo_old
(but yes that edit looks right)
tiny roost
fair vessel
Looks good.
Oh wait! When you say your character still looks female, do you mean the hairstyle?
tiny roost
uhhhhh
fair vessel
You will need to change that in-game. All hairstyles are available no matter the gender I think
fair vessel
yeah, male players can still wear skirts! XD
tiny roost
let me guess if i change the file name then my ingame name will change too?
fair vessel
You can change your appearance at the Wizard's house in-game
And you can make clothes at Emily's sewing machine
royal arrow
Hairs are also unisex right? I know facial hair is 😄
tiny roost
yea
fair vessel
Anyway, it probably worked then.
If you want to make sure that the swap was successful, visit the spa
Try to go in the door to the male changeroom. If you can go in, your character was successfully switched.
tiny roost
im new to this game idk if i unlock it yet
fair vessel
Oooh. It unlocks on Summer 3, right
fair vessel
And if you're pretty early in the game you might need to play more before getting access to the wizard's shrine where you can change appearance (costs 500 gold to change stuff)
zinc smelt
I need some help with this error
[Content Patcher] Loading content pack 'MIDNGIHTPRODIGYS Cannabis Mod CP' failed: using FromFile with action EditData requires Format version 1.10.0 or later.
I just updated everything and its still giving me this issue
supple echo
curry favor with the Wizard and you'll unlock the shrine that lets you change your appearance (it's 500g, I know that can be a a lot in the early game)
supple echo
if he's letting you into his basement, you should be able to use it
fair vessel
You need 4 hearts of friendship with the wizard
supple echo
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Wizard
^ has a list of gifts he likes 🙂
tiny roost
thx!
zinc smelt
can anyone help me please
fair vessel
@zinc smelt is this for a mod you made or someone else's you are using?
It sounds like it's a small oversight in the content pack, but it could be easily fixable
zinc smelt
one that i am using
fair vessel
Okay - try this
Find the cannabis mod folder, go inside it, look for a file called content.json. Open that file in a text editor
pliant sable
my farmer doesn't have clothes all of a sudden and I don't know which mod is causing it if anyone could help
fair vessel
You should see the first two lines look something like
{
"Format": "1.8.2",
...```Whatever number you see in "Format":, change it to be 1.10.0.
zinc smelt
its 1.4
fair vessel
wow lol. I wonder if that's a typo from 1.14, or just a very old mod! 🤔
Anyway, try 1.10.0 and see if it works without any different errors.
zinc smelt
just type that number in instead?
heavy sky
any SVE users know how to find apples? is there a wiki for SVE content anywhere maybe?
fair vessel
If it says something else is wrong, you could next try 1.14.0 in case the original mod just had a typo and was supposed to be 14 in the first place
Yup there's an SVE wiki @heavy sky
https://stardew-valley-expanded.fandom.com/wiki/Stardew_Valley_Expanded_Wiki
zinc smelt
thanks giving it a try now. and then the other. will let you know how it goes. Thank you
heavy sky
great thanks
fair vessel
@pliant sable is your farmer missing clothes in the save loading screen only, or are they also naked in game? 😳
pliant sable
it is not missing in the loding screen just in the game
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
heavy sky
as a side note, i think i figured out what was causing that bug i was talking about a week ago to occur. it seems like it always happens when i sell items via the box. a day skip doesn't happen if i leveled up a skill but didn't sell anything
fair vessel
Are they wearing a swimsuit? maybe it got stuck in swimsuit mode?
pliant sable
nope just underwear and topless
heavy sky
the mod maker hasn't responded at all on nexusmods yet, though
zinc smelt
improvement. we've gone from red error to Yellow.
[Content Patcher] Ignored MIDNGIHTPRODIGYS Cannabis Mod CP > EditData Data/ObjectInformation: FromFile is mutually exclusive with Entries, Fields, and MoveEntries.
fair vessel
What clothes show up for the farmer in the loading screen?
pliant sable
pajamas
supple echo
"my farmer is naked" has gotta be one of the stranger problems I've heard of 😄
fair vessel
@zinc smelt is that with 1.10.0?
zinc smelt
yes
pliant sable
i thought it was cozy clothing mod but when I deleted it it was the same proble
fair vessel
kk try 1.14.0
But if that still doesn't fix it there might just be an error in the way the whole content pack is set up. Any similar comments from others about it on the mod page?
I'm actually surprised that it's adding new crops as a Content Patcher mod at all. Usually you don't want to use Content Patcher for that sort of thing because of item ID clashes.
If you can't get it to work, you can try this similar mod. It's made for Json Assets, which means it more up-to-date in terms of mods that add new crops. link removed (nexus ID 1741)
zinc smelt
I have that. Im gonna run the game through and see how it goes. Thank you!
pliant sable
fair vessel
When you open your inventory menu, do you see any items in the clothing slots?
Hmm, that actually looks kinda like a swimsuit to me
!log mskater88
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
remote cedar
Everyone here is beautiful
pliant sable
ok i just deleted swim and its working again
the swim mode helped thank you @fair vessel
restive zodiac
@fair vessel @zinc smelt It's okay to refer to these mods without detailed discussion of their content, but we'd rather you didn't direct link them here (especially with embeds) ! I removed one but left the other because it was an otherwise informative post, if you could edit that yourself :)
fair vessel
ooooh
Then I'm sure there's a keybinding that would work to switch it!
toxic eagle
Another general question - for mods that use config files (IF2R/Eemies recolors/SVE) they ask you to start the game to generate them...do I need to start a whole new save file/load up a farm, or is it okay to just open up to the main menu, and then close?
restive zodiac
Just run the game is fine! SMAPI will create them.
fair vessel
Is that edit ok or should I remove reference to the mod entirely?
pliant sable
also how do i get the game to stop thinking Im a boy
restive zodiac
The edit is fine for now thanks! I'll clarify later if position changes on that :)
fair vessel
@pliant sable hehe we just went through this with LastDance in the other direction! Scroll up for step by step instructions
pliant sable
thank you
fair vessel
OR you can simply type debug customize into the smapi console and change it very quickly yourself
fair vessel
haha yeah gotta switch back to the game window to see the result 😉
royal arrow
The tiny kitchen not only works, it uses the recolored kitchen items I have! 
(I only had to move my tv)
fair vessel
cute!
dire fractal
walk in to find dog asleep on the bed 
rain lava
hehe. It takes a whole bed. No place for you ;P
restive zodiac
Cat and rare dog bed is one of my favorite 1.4 additions...
rain lava
I based it on my real dog and he's the biggest cuddler ever. I can't sit on a floor without him coming to me and asking for petting xD
tiny roost
yay i changed my pant and hair from game file going through the style one by one...
severe oak
Does anyone know if when I add furniture using tiled, whether I be able to interact with it in-game?
restive zodiac
Not like placeable furniture in your farmhouse.
You can add some interaction to it via tile actions, but they won't be considered furniture objects
severe oak
Okay! is there a way to change what furniture is generated into the house & where when you start a world?
restive zodiac
Hm, I think MTN lets you set which furniture set you get on a custom farm type, but I can't think of another mod that does that offhand. It sounds familiar 
The simplest would probably be to just pick it up and trash it, then spawn in the stuff you want instead. For making it happen automatically, you'd need a SMAPI mod with C# ! #making-mods-general could try getting pointed in the right direction :)
severe oak
Oh I thought I was in the making mods channel, haha
Yeah this is for a mod I'm trying to make 🙂
rocky dust
oh what is it called?
severe oak
Don't even have a name yet, I'm just trying to make it work to any degree first in order to see whether I think I can execute it
outer turret
I love that voila moment where you find the typo:)
fair vessel
Something about... colors. And image assets. Probably.
tired apex
I have starblue valley and some reskins-
fair vessel
I dunno why any of those would cause it to complain 🤔
tired apex
Smapi is being whiny
fair vessel
Unless they used a non-png image format or something weird
tired apex
I'm gonna update it later ¯_(ツ)_/¯
restive zodiac
They'll work fine, but probably just need resaving to not get nagged
broken frost
Ok, so I'm experiencing a bit of a mod issue: 3 mods tell me they need updated. However, 2 of them are already at the latest version I can download on Nexus Mods, but their manifests don't reflect that (IP's Weapons and LadderLocator), and the Fresh Meat mod says the latest version is a beta, but from the sound of the beta, it's very unstable and I think I'd be better off with the latest non-beta.
royal arrow
sometimes the version numbers in the manifest.json are outdated, if you're sure you have the latest version, you're good
if you'd like to get rid of the messages, you can edit the manifest.json file yourself using a text editor (Notepad or Notepad++) and update the version number to be correct. It's a harmless message though, if you know you have the latest version
fair vessel
Yup. You're good. And the fresh meat beta is a special case (leave that one alone)
The others you can edit as above, or just ignore!
outer turret
I have many in mine thar I'm pretty sure are just not updated manifests.
broken frost
And of course, everything related to SVE throws up an error in the in-game update menu mod
fair vessel
Yep, no way around that until mod author of SVE or Mod Update Menu changes something
broken frost
Also, I was trying to find an alternate Save Anywhere mod because the only one I know of is horribly bugged and last time I used it, I ended up loading in a cliff wall on the northern part of town.
Couldn't find one, but I did find the Skull Cavern Elevator mod, which hopefully won't break SVE's Skull Cavern
shy orbit
@tired apex libpng complaining about non-standard color correction profiles. there is an easy way to remove the profiles from the pngs if you want to get rid of the warning. not sure if it's possible to suppress libpng from printing out the warnings
rare quest
@broken frost I'll investigate why that happens. I tried before, but I didn't spend too much time on it.
(and no that skull cavern elevator mod doesn't break the SVE cavern map)
fair vessel
@rare quest it's because mod update menu throws a big red error when update keys are set to "???"
(By contrast, smapi itself only adds a tiny little trace log)
rare quest
Yeah, I know.
But if I don't put something there, the SMAPI console will spam like... 8 lines stating a bunch of SVE files have no update keys.
fair vessel
Yup. The problem is that SMAPI makes a more obvious error for a missing update key than for an invalid key
Whereas Mod Update Menu shows a bigger error for invalid keys than for when they are missing.
You could talk to the author of Mod Update Menu and ask them to add an exception and not throw an error if, say, the update key just says "null"
rare quest
Will reach out at some point. For now, I'm adding this to the pile of "things to do"~
broken frost
I was going to ask why not just put in the version of the mod, but then I thought of updating the keys for every single part of the mod, and I realized "Oh, that's why not."
rare quest
I mean, you don't want 8 lines of purple text telling you to update the same mod hehe 😛
broken frost
Yeah, I get antsy when even one mod is reported as needed updated :P
Also, another thing I noticed is with Dynamic Night Time, when I wake up on a Fall morning, my house is still dark as if it's night time for about 10-30 in-game minutes before it gets bright. I initially thought it was a glitch but then I realized it's because the sun's rising slightly later in the day due to it being fall.
velvet tiger
The info suite will tell you how much time left when doing mouse over..
Don't know if that helps
obsidian beacon
thats pretty good
ill check that out
theres one for when kegs are in sheds
but mine arent
supple echo
help! 80 million errors! do I need to reinstall Mono again? I swear I just did last night to make the VS Studio installer stop complaining…
https://smapi.io/log/c73b5353a2c44e1db1adf88c282ce5c7
pastel arch
@rare quest I can add an exception for "???" or something else, potentially
supple echo
(Game launched fine—I realized there was a problem when my horse wasn't customized)
velvet tiger
theres one for when kegs are in sheds
@obsidian beacon well a trick is to put an additional keg by the door that you load at the same time that the ones inside
rare quest
That would be amazing if you could. 🙂
velvet tiger
If outside is ready, inside are
rare quest
I think adding an exception for ??? would be perfect.
rare quest
I would imagine anyone else adding ??? as an update ID doesn't want SMAPI linking to it
obsidian beacon
for a challenge
dire fractal
Or possibly null or unset?
shy orbit
@supple echo couldn't find libgdiplus, which is needed to load mod images. Make sure Mono is installed and you're running the game through the normal launcher.
pastel arch
👍 I'll see how SMAPI handles it to see in general if MUM needs to do something different entirely for that case, and if not add an exception for ???
supple echo
:p off to reinstall Mono again then
fair vessel
I like null because it's semantically meaningful
candid pawn
hi, i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but does anyone know of a mod that gives you another way to get cloth? like maybe a cotton plant or something
royal arrow
This is the place to ask! I dunno the answer though o:
If there isn't a mod for it, you can leave a suggestion on the mod ideas list! https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas
fair vessel
@candid pawn vanilla ways are from rabbits, sheep, and from putting soggy newspapers in recycling machines right?
So something besides that... hmm. I don't know of one, but I wouldn't be surprised if it exists.
daring wagon
There is one that does cotton and has a loom! I'm sorry, I'm in a call rn and can't look it up, but it exists
supple echo
surely one of the million crop-adding mods has done this
candid pawn
@fair vessel i'm trying a harder playthough so i have no seeds and no animals
fair vessel
Ah. So you could only get soggy newspaper from trash cans, then, if you didn't do fishing
Also if you friend Emily she occasionally sends you cloth
candid pawn
crab pots could also work....
fair vessel
Oh, if you do crab pots that would work well! I made the mistake of assuming no animals also meant no fishing haha
daring wagon
Cotton is in PPJA fruits and veggies
shy orbit
but does it actually give cloth?
fair vessel
But yeah, in some of my playthoughs I get most of my cloth from crab pot newspapers actually.
royal arrow
From what halla said, you still need the loom
daring wagon
You have to make it into cloth, but yes
fair vessel
I don't often keep sheep, and only a couple rabbits
heady cliff
is there a mod that will force your spouse to ask about having children/adopting?
shy orbit
i thought it only gave thread or something from the loom
heady cliff
thank you
fair vessel
set it from 0.05 to 1
heady cliff
I searched for children/child/kid but never thought to search for baby LOL
supple echo
reinstalls Mono… twice
candid pawn
i think that was the mod Realistic Looms
daring wagon
I thought it was cotton -> thread -> cloth, but could be wrong 😛
supple echo
okay I think it's fixed now :p
shy orbit
ah, that could be
night obsidian
Is there any mod to balance level 5 and level 10 skill perks or to replace them with different ones?
fair vessel
Hmm :/
There are mods that add new (third) options for some skills
And mods that add new skills
Oh and I've seen one that balances crit chance so that Scout profession becomes viable, but I think it's out of date I'm afraid
Because the effects of skill profession choices are kinda locked into game code, it's not usually something a content pack mod can modify, and instead requires smapi coding
There's also skill prestige mod that allows you to earn multiple profession branches over time
royal arrow
Also vanilla game has an option to change professions, I think ||in the sewer, there's a statue o:||
night obsidian
Yea, I just wish some of the professions were more useful than they are.
royal arrow
Well if there isn't an existing mod for it, you can drop a suggestion in the mod ideas list! 
https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas
toxic eagle
I'd like to thank the folks here for all your fine help with using mods and also all the creators in here! You're the best! 🙂
royal arrow
wait if you give a modded item as a gift to an NPC without gift tastes for it, is it neutral or disliked? I just gave some custom ice cream to Gunther (using Befriend Marlon and Gunther) and it was a disliked gift, not even neutral :c
PS I'm really enjoying Dialogue Emotes! It adds a little more life to the town in a simple yet elegant way 
fast river
Default it's neutral (unless they have a category override), but next JA version lets you specify the universal taste so it defaults to whatever you want
royal arrow
maybe Gunther doesn't like sweets then
Herbert apparently is also not a fan, boo! I guess the vanilla characters are the only ones who'll enjoy the delicious ice cream, hmph! 
pastel arch
SMAPI's log's expiring is a problem because I'm trying to look at a log from January and it's gone
Why would you do this to me Pathos
dire fractal
PathosChild: I control the vertical. I control the horizontal.
torn mason
remembers when we broke the upload limit when 1.4 came out
fair vessel
what's this?
torn mason
uploaded logs used to be kept permanently and didn't have a 4 weeks limit
when 1.4 came out we thoroughly overloaded the site and overloaded the hosting limit which was using pastebin at the time i think?
so pathos migrated it to some new stuff and now there's the 4 week limit
pastel arch
Yep, I know what happened 😄
torn mason
just explaining for some of the newer cheetos heh
royal arrow
Oh that explains so much! I was like "I could have sworn this didn't use to expire"
Also I may be mad for asking, but is there a mod to make time pass even while the game is paused, in single player?
fair vessel
I may be mad for asking
LOL
restive zodiac
You could play in MP without farmhands!
royal arrow
I think time pauses if no one else is there o: I've had an MP game open, farmhands not yet there, and time pauses
restive zodiac
There are some things I'd like time to pass for always, like what is the point of blowing my whole day playing arcade games if time doesn't pass while playing them 😠
royal arrow
I just want the extra pressure to not dwaddle in the Discord with the game paused 😅
restive zodiac
Whereas I cannot properly get the feeling of shirking work with pause...
Maybe you could use Discord overlay and do both :P
royal arrow
The Discord overlay causes me issues o: like, it makes the "void" a weird shade of purple o.O so like, the black area when you're inside buildings is a weird purple
fast river
Blurple?
royal arrow
Is this blurple? o:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726198992056221798/729015102862393434/20200704124522_1.jpg
stable anchor
<-- blurple
rare sandal
waves Hi, I'm new to modding SDV 🙂 I have a question, but I have to go in like 3 minutes, haha. Is it okay if I post and disappear, or do you guys prefer it if I stick around? (In which case I'll post later haha)
fair vessel
go ahead!
fair vessel
we can always use @ mentions and quotes to keep the flow of a convo
rare sandal
Cool beans, thanks 🙂
nods Works for me! (Speaking of, how do you quote in Discord? That's one I haven't done before haha)
restive zodiac
If you're on desktop, there should be a three vertical dot hamburger menu next to the react button that has the option
rare sandal
Ahhh okay cool, ty
restive zodiac
(On mobile it's a long press of the message in question. You can also use > message and >>> multiline message)
rare sandal
Gotcha, thanks much!
So. Like I said, new to modding the game (tbh, relatively new to modding in general, haha). I just found Vortex through NexusMods a couple days ago, and I'm very grateful for it, haha. RN, though, I'm trying to figure out dependencies. Specifically, I've been downloading the Artisan Valley and various requirements, and like...I guess I'm trying to figure out if I need to manually go in and set dependencies in the list? So like...Artisan Valley's requirements, according to its Nexus page (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1926), include Content Patcher, Json Assets, etc., and also the PPJA Content Pack Collection. The page for the collection (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1935) says individual downloads are recommended, so I went to do it that way. Then a couple of the individual packs (e.g. More Recipes (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1670) require some of the other packs...
So, given all this, do I need to manually go through and set all the dependencies in Vortex, or will it all work as long as the requirements are installed?
(Also, update: plans changed, I have a little while longer at my computer 🙂 )
royal arrow
It'll work as long as long as you install all the required mods o:
fair vessel
Yep! SMAPI mod loader handles dependencies automatically, so there is no need to add that info yourself in Vortex.
And if you're missing a dependency SMAPI spits out helpful errors
And if you ever want to add a new dependency to a mod you have (sometimes needed for tweaking load order for compatibility or overlap reasons if you have lots of mods...) the best way to do that is to open up a mod's manifest.json file and add the extra dependency right in there.
obsidian beacon
is there a way to extend stardew notifications to places outside of the farm?
rare sandal
Ah okay, thanks much 🙂
fair vessel
If you ever need to do that: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest for details on mod manifest format
https://smapi.io/json/manifest format error checker
candid pawn
ok other dumb question. in SVE does anyone know were to get the skull key?
fair vessel
Skull key is floor 120 like usual
Rusty key is changed in SVE though
(you need to befriend Marlon and reach the bottom of the mines)
is it 5 hearts? 🤔
royal arrow
Me: gah I don't have the resources to make quality sprinklers, wish I could just buy them!
Also me: literally wrote Artisan Equipment for Sale for this exact reason (it's a Wednesday though lol)
fair vessel
Ooh uhoh
If it did, you'll probably find comments on the mod page from other people who were affected
Yup! Mod author suggests to remove the mod and re-visit the floor
They're working on a fix for the next update.
Thanks for the info @candid pawn, I'm tracking the mod now so I can know when it gets fixed 
rare sandal
@fair vessel Thanks, that's definitely good to know! 🙂
candid pawn
i removed the mod a few days ago, and just checked but its still empty
rare sandal
I've actually run into a few more questions if y'all don't mind... Google is being strangely unhelpful today XD It's not a huge deal since I can just use the .exe file, but if anyone knows what's up with SDV not launching from within Vortex, it'd be kinda handy for me to be able to fix it haha
(Also there may be multiple questions about acronyms from me...again, Google doesn't like me lately XD)
candid pawn
i'm going to finsh out the day, try the new version of the mod and is if its fixed
fair vessel
Good idea
If not, let me know, I have an idea for a save-edity kind of fix
(reset your mines progress manually to lvl 115)
@rare sandal you're on windows? You'll need to configure options through Steam to launch smapi with it
royal arrow
Also Amy, for a couple of the acronyms, you may find it helpful to check out the !list command in the #governors-mansion channel, and peruse the commands it shows you
candid pawn
also different question. anyone know of any good mods that change dialog? one that i love is called (A) Abigail - The Extended Unrated Director's Cut 8K Gold Limited Edition, but didn't know if there was any for the rest of the town
fair vessel
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Windows#Install
see "Part 2: configure Steam"
ooh, Lenne's modlist has tons of good dialogue mods!
rare sandal
@fair vessel I...actually bought the game through GOG, not Steam...which apparently is highly uncommon as practically everything I've seen is geared towards Steam? XD
But yes, Windows, for future reference 🙂
fair vessel
Oh huh. Then it's something else... hmmm
royal arrow
See my mod list here (I have a whole section for dialog mods with a convenient table of contents): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_qmtiO74ENg99aDL97xhLjVawV5pQLQtmHCidLTnbRc/edit?usp=drivesdk
shy orbit
@candid pawn canon friendly dialogue expansion is the biggest dialogue mod i think
fair vessel
I don't usually launch through Vortex but I can, let me take a look at mine
rare sandal
@royal arrow Oh, good to know, I'll give it a look
Okie @fair vessel , thanks 🙂
And everyone I've been talking to, feel free to ping me if I don't answer within a few minutes or so...I'm doing several things at once, and I get distracted easily XD Plus it helps since I have my status pretty much always on invisible (mental health reasons 😛 )
fair vessel
Interesting, I never noticed this before... but launching through Vortex with smapi works for me, launching vanilla does nothing 🤔
Here's what i have on my dashboard - do you have smapi launcher as an option? If not, try adding it and making it the primary
rare sandal
Hmm...I mean I did see somewhere in my online search something about Vortex automatically setting the launch path to the smapi file or something...I think...? XD idek it's a blur haha. But yeah
Hmm lemme have a look
candid pawn
@shy orbit does it conflict with other mods of the same type?
fair vessel
overlap between dialogue mods is usually minimal. If you're worried about seeing the stuff from a new mod, you can add a dependency in the new mod's manifest to list Canon Friendly Dialogue mod. Then Canon-Friendly will load first and won't overwrite any dialogue from the other mod.
quoting myself lol
lapis void
yeah, the only conflicts with dialogue mods usually are either the rare case when two mods add conflicting lore or something, or if two mods have a piece of dialogue set for the same day/heart level so you wouldn't see the dialogue from one of them
hazy leaf
Hey corrin ❤️ ❤️
lapis void
hi clown!
hazy leaf
Any mods in the works :o
lapis void
yeah, mostly working on MCN stuff atm! irl has been a lot lately though so i've mostly been playing SDV to stay sane and haven't done a ton of asset making lol
fair vessel
Ooh I found out why my Vortex vanilla launch doesn't work
hazy leaf
I know that feeling
fair vessel
It's trying to run StardewValley.exe (no space)
hazy leaf
Life is hard all around
lapis void
i'm about to have a lot of free time this week tho so i may start working on a couple ideas i had 👀
pastel arch
Harvey but he's made of corn
lapis void
wow cat it's like you plucked it right out of my brain!
royal arrow
Corndew Valley
rare sandal
@fair vessel YOU ARE LOVELY THANK YOU hahaha I figured out what was up (and I'm gonna pretend I am not a complete idjit XD)...my run path wasn't set at all 😛
lapis void
but no actually i'm thinking of making a lighthouse keeper for east scarpe, if i can get the motivation together and once i finish working on magick mod assets
night obsidian
Here is my current mod list:
-Stardew Expanded
-Immersive Farm 2 Remastered
-Automate
-Producer Framwork Mod
-PFMAutomate
-NPC Locations
-Experience Bars
-PPJA Ancient Crops
-PPJA Artisan Valley
-PPJA Cannabis Kit
-PPJA Fruits and Veggies
-PPJA More Trees
-Eemie's Crops for Json Assets
-SMAPI
-Content Patcher
-Custom Music
-Farm Type Manager
-Json Assets
-PyTK Platonymous
-SpaceCore
-TMXL Map Toolkit
-Winter Grass
Just been enjoying just exploring the new stuff
🙃
lapis void
so @heavy sail first off, you need to update SMAPI! second, when you go to the path to find your log and go back to the %appdata%\StardewValley folder, is that startup preferences file in there?
royal arrow
Super important question: is there a mod that adds bottled water? If not, follow up question: why not O: ? (Herbert made me think of it because he has a dialog line in which he offers you a bottle of water but it's lies)
lapis void
that error shouldn't really affect anything, but if you want to get rid of it, you can try deleting that file--it should recreate itself the next time you play multiplayer, and hopefully fix whatever issue there was with the file
rare sandal
Hmm...I just looked at the smapi console window on startup and I did get some odd things...for example the picture
lapis void
yes! drink more water
rare sandal
It's telling me I should update these but like...I literally just downloaded either today or yesterday...?
lapis void
fresh meat has a beta out which is optional so you can ignore that
rare sandal
And it also says the Magic mod isn't compatible, but I didn't see anything about that on the Nexus page or posts or anything
lapis void
for magic, spacechase0 does mod updates on his personal website that are sometimes more up to date than the nexus version
rare sandal
Ohh okay @lapis void Thanks 🙂 I'll have a look there, and ignore the beta
lapis void
https://spacechase0.com/mods/stardew-valley/magic/ this should be the most recent version of magic
not sure about PyTK, there may have been an update like just now?
restive zodiac
(And PyTK just updated today 😅 )
lapis void
ah yeah that'd do it
rare sandal
Ah okay thanks! 🙂 goes to redownload PyTK Hahaha keeping up with mods is hard
hazy leaf
It really is though
restive zodiac
I'm always really happy about fast updates when it's including a feature I was looking forward to or requested, but when it's for something I don't know or care about I'm like harrumph even though it's the exact same thing :D
hazy leaf
I've been trying not update as much
rare sandal
Hahaha yeah XD I know that feeling
lapis void
windows.................. no it is not..................
hazy leaf
Ppl were getting annoyed with me xD
rare sandal
Tbh at this point I'm spending more time being like "OOOH LOOK AT THIS COOL MOD MUST HAVE IT" than actually playing... heh
tired brook
currently releasing updates to several mods to fix an extremely niche issue that won't affect 99.9% of users 
rare sandal
XD
restive zodiac
In this case I think the aquarium people might be happy about this update checks it
fast river
What's the issue?
rare sandal
Bahahah so I just looked at Vortex and apparently I downloaded PyTK like right before it was updated. Like it was updated exactly 6 hours ago (according to Nexus) and that's when I downloaded according to Vortex hahaha
lapis void
good lord i had to fight windows defender for like five minutes to get SMAPI updated... i'm never updating it from nexus again oh my god
restive zodiac
Ew, I would have expected that popup from like a random Discord attachment or something 😄
tired brook
(It's related to internal mod/SMAPI logic which sorts/compares strings. Essentially in some cases they would incorrectly consider special characters like "bup" and "bûp" to be the same string.)
lapis void
yes, windows, it does execute a command, i need it to do that to install the thing
heavy sail
@lapis void May take a while to show you the folder, I restarted my computer.
restive zodiac
Stardew Valley was blocked because it launches a process and displays graphics from an attacker
fast river
That graphic: || 😛 ||
daring wagon
Windows Defender did that to me this time too, and I've downloaded it from Nexus before with no issues.
rare sandal
K so is there anything I need to do with Magic to update it properly? Like with some things it says make sure you delete previous files...?
tired brook
That popup isn't related to downloading it from Nexus; it's just because that SMAPI build isn't in the antivirus company's databases yet, and rarely-downloaded executable == danger for most antiviruses.
restive zodiac
I don't suppose anyone has edited git wiki repos locally I am confused about page adding...
tired brook
(And instead of telling you that, they just make up a scary-sounding trojan name for that.)
restive zodiac
(Not in our databases makes it sound like their problem!)
My git wiki confusion is that I would rather do the file creation and editing stuff from command line, but how do new pages become new pages? If I just create a new markdown file and push that, it will end up in my user content, and I'm not sure how to make all wiki pages linking together in perfect harmony
There is a perfectly good "add page" button on the website, but, y'know 
lapis void
amy, you should be able to just overwrite i think!
you can delete the old folder to be safe if you'd like
rare sandal
@lapis void Cool, thanks!
...yet ANOTHER question (sorry...hehe)...actually two :P
-
The commands list from the bot channel helped with some of the acronyms (thanks again, @royal arrow !). I now know what CFR is...question is, do I need/want it in addition to PFN?
-
Can't find MFM in the list...what does that one mean?
candid pawn
still no key in the mines 😦 even went from 115 back down
royal arrow
I think you mean Producer Framework Mod (PFM). That's essentially a remake of CFR, you can use either/or, depending on the mod requirement
MFM is Mail Framework Mod. It's required by some mods to send mail
lapis void
generally you don't want CFR, it's outdated and PFM is more commonly used now
royal arrow
and while most CFR mods were converted to PFM, not all of them were, hence why you might still want to use CFR. You can actually use both at the same time o:
lapis void
yup! just be aware that if you're using something that wasn't converted, it might have some issues
rare sandal
Ahhhh okay, thanks! ...probably should've figured out the MFM since I did download that...haha oh well
heavy sail
@lapis void there is a Startup_Preferences file.
royal arrow
Exnotic, do you know where this file is o: ? I'm curious to poke around in it
lapis void
okay, so like i said in my earlier message, try deleting that file and running the game again!
it should recreate itself eventually
it's a multiplayer thing, it's totally fine to delete it--in fact each player deleting startup_preferences is often one of the first things recommended when you're having issues connecting in multiplayer
heavy sail
Well, technically this issue started after it regenerated the first time, but I’ll try it.
fair vessel
still no key in the mines 😦 even went from 115 back down
@candid pawn darn. You wanna try the save edit?
candid pawn
whats that?
fair vessel
Opening your save file in a text editor and changing the number that says the lowest level you've ever reached in the mines
Then the game should act as if you've never been to floor 120 before
I can walk you through it
candid pawn
let me finish out the day first 🙂
fair vessel
Ok sounds good 🙂 when you're done the day and it saves, close out and then locate your save file on your device
(instructions for finding it here if you need https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves)
heavy sail
@lapis void Also, I don't think startup_preferences should affect this, but after deleting it, all my mod keybinds, as well as Customize Child Bedroom, reset themselves. Easy fix, just thought it let you know.
lapis void
interesting, i don't think that should affect it either--those keybinds should be stored in the individual mods' config files
fair vessel
Once my game crashed so hard that my computer bluescreened and the data in every smapi mod config file was simultaneously reset 
rare sandal
Anyone got recs for a bigger farm that's especially good for crafting?
candid pawn
@fair vessel ok, found the folder
royal arrow
you never did figure out what went wrong that time, Jonqora, did you? 
fair vessel
@rare sandal Farm Extended is a nice one with lots of hardwood stumps
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3496
rare sandal
Ooh ty 🙂
fair vessel
(read the comments though for Lenne's install tips)
candid pawn
@rare sandal i'm currently running the Rolling Hills Farm
rare sandal
Thanks @candid pawn ! I'll have a look at that too...
Hahaha soooooo many mods
Whoever introduced me to modding in the first place sent me down a rabbit hole I may never emerge from XD
candid pawn
thats the best part of it
rare sandal
XDDD true
candid pawn
@fair vessel ok, what value i'm i looking for?
fair vessel
ctrl-f for mine_lowestLevelReached
change e.g. from
<mine_lowestLevelReached>120</mine_lowestLevelReached>
to <mine_lowestLevelReached>115</mine_lowestLevelReached>
save, start game, and try it out! 🤞
candid pawn
thanks 🙂 if it doesn't work is there a way to spawn the item... just in case
fair vessel
yep there is
it's always best to trigger stuff like this naturally, just in case there are multiple effects that a cheat or debug command won't trigger
candid pawn
ok, good to know. it'll take a bit to check back. got a Holiday then a wedding
rare sandal
Wait... peers at Rolling Hills farm I think I'mma try out both this and the Extended, but @candid pawn do you happen to know which file I should download? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5393?tab=files Or both?
fair vessel
Ok. I'll tell you how now just in case the mines reset doesn't work -
All you should need to to is enter debug skullkey directly in the smapi console.
sonic echo
so this never when installing smapi, but the windows installer.exe is considered a virus by windows defender
quasi snow
I'm having the same problem ;;
candid pawn
sigh, ok another problem, i use some custom npc's, and for the winter star i got Abandoned Bride as my ss. but i can't find where she spawns on the map...
tired apex
@shy orbit ah thank you, I'll just ignore the whining like I have been lmao
fair vessel
@sonic echo @quasi snow Pathos says it's just because the latest release of smapi is so new.
If you can click through to ignore the warnings, do that - it'll be fine
daring wagon
@candid pawn she should be in there! The specific map coordinates are 38, 60
sonic echo
@fair vessel sadly windows defender deletes the file immediately after extraction
tired apex
Is the new smapi update being difficult
sonic echo
and the .bat won't ever run either
heavy sail
you know what, maybe i shouldn't install the update
fair vessel
Can you temporarily disable windows defender before extracting and installing?
candid pawn
@daring wagon .. um, where is 38, 60?
daring wagon
You can turn on debug mode in the NPC map locations mod to find her, I'm turning it on and going to look at the town map but that may not be the same as the festival map. There's probably a faster way to check, but IDK what it is and my loading time is kinda slow because of my 500 mods...
tired apex
500
sonic echo
i can't seem to disable windows defender and even if i excluded the folder, it wouldn't work anyway
daring wagon
Lewis, you can just download an earlier version if you're downloading it for the first time. The last version shouldn't run into those issues.
sonic echo
it isn't my first time, but yeah thanks
daring wagon
Ok loading into the town map
Bet Jonqora knew a faster, simpler way to do this. Or even where Abandoned Bride was 😛
cedar flare
hello, I'm trying to update Seasonal Villager Outfits but for some reason it keeps downloading a zip.crdownload file instead of a normal .zip - how do I fix it/download the right file?
daring wagon
Ah, I have SVE. That might change some things, but for me, 38, 60 is close to the fence/flowerbeds/light pole near the tables where Gus tells the story about the candy canes
So she should be super visible... if you're not seeing her, it might be a loading bug
fair vessel
Or it might be a different custom NPC in the same tile location
daring wagon
She should be north of Gus's group, on the side of the tables closer to the farm than the Jojamart.
candid pawn
by clint?
daring wagon
IDR where Clint stands and I'm not at the festival, just in the empty town square. If you have several NPC mods, like Jonqora said, she may be standing behind a different one. Sorry, gotta run, family call
candid pawn
here's a pic
rare sandal
@cedar flare If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), a file that ends with crdownload means that Chrome didn't finish the download. Have you tried waiting a bit longer? 🙂
outer turret
No one on my npc database stands there.
rare sandal
@cedar flare See the link here for more info: https://www.lifewire.com/crdownload-file-2622705
outer turret
But SVe may move the canon ones.
Oh she might be a designed not to appear.
Jasper is and the creator asked me how to do it
candid pawn
@outer turret i posted a pic, do you know where 38, 60 is?
outer turret
I can't check atm I'm out for lunch sry!
But I do have a database of festival positions for custom npcs
cedar flare
@rare sandal I've tried waiting, but it takes a really long time to download - I'll start it again and see if it works this time. I downloaded a few other mods at the same time and they were all fine. I also tried downloading via Safari and that also didn't work for some reason? I'll try again, thank you
rare sandal
@cedar flare Np 🙂 Hopefully it works this time! If not, maybe try downloading something else so you can figure out whether it's that specific mod that's the problem?
Like maybe that one got interrupted if your internet decided to go wonky haha
dire fractal
Does the download say it finished in chrome?
candid pawn
here's the log for it: https://smapi.io/log/0a469b9eaf5a4b41b3e5e06d0052d161
fair vessel
Jasper is and the creator asked me how to do it
@outer turret ooh interesting. Can Jasper still be selected for the winter star gift exchange though? I can see how that'd become a bit of a problem if certain NPCs don't appear at the festival
outer turret
Yes because I cant stop that. Maybe dont trigger his 6 heart event just before it!
And find him quickly.
fair vessel
Ah so in your case it's just a temporary thing
outer turret
Yeh it's basically so when hes ot of town he won't appear at festivals.
candid pawn
is there a mod that'll mail you the gift if you miss the winter star?
or a way to change who you got for ss?
royal arrow
I believe Stardew Notification includes a reminder of who your assigned person is o:
outer turret
Mine changes every year and I don't know why.
Like first letter will say one person second letter another.
dire fractal
Hey!! SO I updated my mods (smapi and content p) a few hours ago, and every time I move the window ( I did it at first bc I couldn't see the bottom part of the health bar even after in full screen) it crashes?
clear oasis
How do you even get mods for stardew
royal arrow
Hi, check out the getting started guide, it covers the whole process https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
clear oasis
Ok thanks
dire fractal
!log Cacti Guy could you upload your SMAPI log?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
this right?
Yep!
I have no idea what to do about the error. You weren't kidding about just updating. I think Pathoschild just released CP 1.16 like an hour ago
pokes the orange gang
Aw damn x_x
lmao yeah, I was JUST going to play when I saw the notif and though why not and then chaos trying to fix it
royal arrow
so the errors you're having are my kryptonite 
weird game errors that idk how to fix.
Does it happen on a new save?
dire fractal
Were SMAPI 3.6.2 and Content Patcher 1.16 the only updates?
pine ledge
Automate, Lookup Anything, Crops Anywhere Anytime, Fast Animations, and Chests Anywhere were also updated.
If you mean things from Pathos. For other updates, you'd have to check Nexus.
restive zodiac
That's interesting
dire fractal
I meant Cacti Guy's updates specifically.
pine ledge
Ah. Oki!
restive zodiac
@dire fractal Can you try installing PyTK and getting a new log? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1726
outer turret
Gah has DeepDark crashed for everyone?
outer turret
Nope
restive zodiac
Oh no, definitely not
pine ledge
!platonymous
native dragonBOT
Platonymous is Routine#8715. :)
restive zodiac
This looks like a map problem, but I don't really see any maps except the spouse room edits
And technically Immersive Shane, I suppose.
rare sandal
...so is Vortex supposed to deploy every mod every time I enable a new one...?
pine ledge
Yes, because it affects the load order.
rare sandal
Ohhh okay, thanks!
restive zodiac
Also are you resizing/moving the window on purpose? Have you tried ... not doing that?
royal arrow
(can always join the manual-mod-install club and do away with Vortex 
)
restive zodiac
drums fingers
pine ledge
And also because the deployment folder has to be copied into your mods folder. It's two separate things, essentially.
dire fractal
They mentioned earlier they needed to move it because the health bar was off-screen, initially
then 💥
restive zodiac
(I used to advertise much harder for the manual mods club, but now I feel so ashamed of my horrorshow of multiple mods folders that I don't feel quite as convincing when I say it is better :P "Listen, trust me, it's better, just - just do as I say and not as I do, okay? Look at this other person's folder.")
Oh, I feel dumb now, I didn't see the initial description of the problem, only the log and "weird game error"
Here I am all "AHA! You MOVED THE WINDOW!" and they said that at the beginning haha
rare sandal
Ah okay, makes sense. sigh It's taking longer every time I think 😛 @royal arrow @restive zodiac Haha true I guess...trying to decide now...I mean...it's so useful in other ways though... 😛 And I guess I am a bit nervous rooting around in game files when I don't know what I'm doing 😛 I mean it's different with Sims, like...it feels safer and also I understand it better because I've actually created a mod so... shrug
royal arrow
(I only ever bang that drum when people are having issues with Vortex like, "you know...there's a way to cut out this middleman")
rare sandal
hahaha
dire fractal
Pay no attention to the mouse behind the curtain, mortals! 
🏙️ 💚
rare sandal
Yeahhhh
royal arrow
oh, with SMAPI the mods don't go in the game folder, they're still in a separate Mods folder, you don't directly touch game files o:
rare sandal
(Also as a side note @royal arrow the last part of your username reminds me of Dallben from the Lloyd Alexander books I read as a kid...you ever read those? haha)
Ohhh...hmm...wellll that is good to know...
pine ledge
Yeah. I mean. You can do direct XNB modding, but it's not exactly recommended for a variety of reasons.
rare sandal
Idk I'll have to think on it then. I do really like the profiles feature...
haha yeah
restive zodiac
Oh yeah, whew, we don't recommend overwriting any files in the game folder at all, they should all live safe in your Mods folder where pufferchick can shepherd them
royal arrow
OMG. OMG. LISTEN. YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON TO HAVE EVER, EVER, in my 10+years of using the username, KNOWN WHERE IT CAME FROM!!!
rare sandal
I decided right off I wasn't gonna touch XNBs
OHYAY
Hahahaha
Go you for using that 😄 It's such a fun series 😄
pine ledge
I have a separate folder with them all unpacked so I can look at what's inside and how it works. :3
rare sandal
Haha good idea @pine ledge
cedar flare
@rare sandal thanks for your suggestion earlier (about the download thing), it worked!
rare sandal
And @royal arrow I feel like we need to be Friends now XD
restive zodiac
@dire fractal It's come to my attention that I was a dumb and did not read your actual problem, belay that order...
rare sandal
@cedar flare Oh good! Np! 🙂
cedar flare
On another note, has anyone who uses Better Junimos/crop expansion packs noticed that the junimos pick up seeds instead of crops? For some reason I have gold/silver/normal "quality" seeds in the junimo houses and I'm not sure where they're coming from
pine ledge
if you want sometime, you can just use the command !unpack and our dear governor will tell you how to unpack your XNB files. :3
gray frigate
My animated content patcher things are so boring now until it gets updated. 😦
rare sandal
@pine ledge Hmmm that is nice to know 🙂 Hahaha I am def one of those people who likes to poke around in things, I just have to be sure I'm not gonna blow up my computer first hahaha
pine ledge
SDV is lightweight in general, so if something goes wrong with your xnbs, just verify your files to fix it.
rare sandal
Oh okay cool, def good to know
dire fractal
At worst you'd just blow up shane and jas, really. The computer would likely survive.
restive zodiac
This is the place to be for that! Most of us like to keep our game's content folder completely untouched and only work off of copies and stuff in the Mods folder, so while you can always do weird stuff via mods, it won't ever be something you can't undo.
rare sandal
nods Cool beans 😄
Haha I guess I may also be a bit wary because if I did kill it, worst case scenario, I don't currently have the money to buy another copy...heh
And tbh I can't imagine GOG would be up for replacing it if I was the one who murdered it haha
restive zodiac
Oh yeah, I'm usually pretty cautious about saying "never" unqualified, but I literally cannot imagine you ever breaking it so hard you would need to actually buy another copy. I mean worst case you could wipe the folder and reinstall 😅
rare sandal
Haha true
restive zodiac
And it's DRM free, so even if you were really expert at it (wrecking), you can even just copy the entire game folder and have two perfectly functioning copies
rare sandal
Oh good point
pine ledge
If you're that worried, you could always just wholesale copy your Content folder and unpack the copy separately.
rare sandal
I don't really have experience with things that are DRM free unless they're entirely freeware so tht hadn't occurred to me
royal arrow
Jonqora being funny on the worst possible case scenario imaginable
Ah yes, "it breaks but not in obvious ways, much more insidious ways that wreck havoc and eventually corrupt your save file, nay, all your backups, nay, your game itself, nay, your ENTIRE COMPUTER beyond repair"
rare sandal
Hahaha true @pine ledge good point
vocal holly
When playing with a friend do they need to have the all same mods or can I add the UI Info Suite mod? because they don't wanna use that one but I do
rare sandal
@royal arrow hahaha
restive zodiac
(The only time you'd ever really need a whole copy of your game folder is in situations like we're expecting a content update so you might back up your whole game with current versions of everything so you can continue playing in its preserved state as long as you want until all your mods are updated , or just... forever I suppose)
!mpmods Von Condersmite#4263
native dragonBOT
@vocal holly See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F for details on how mods work in multiplayer. :)
cedar flare
Does anyone here have the PPJA content packs (trees or crops)? For some reason when the junimos harvest the crops, they turn into their seeds
restive zodiac
You wouldn't both need UI Info Suite, but in most cases it's good to sync your mods to rule out potential issues
dire fractal
Oh boy @restive zodiac ah I already downloaded PyTK anyway to see if it'd help but to no avail
face palm
restive zodiac
Cactus person is back and I have bad news, it's common to have issues with resizing the game window or moving it while something is happening, and the usual recommendation is just to not do that At the same time, I haven't actually seen that particular kind of error
pine ledge
Unrelated but where can I find a list of the Governor's commands to play with?
vocal holly
Awesome thanks
restive zodiac
You can use !list in #governors-mansion
pine ledge
:3
restive zodiac
(But don't use !halp because it pings Pathos)
gray frigate
Poor Pathos doesn't get a moment of rest.
dire fractal
Really? This issue hadn't happened before
I guess I just Won't move it lol
the log looks about the same as before almost
restive zodiac
Have you tried deleting your startup preferences and going through to load your save, waiting until everything is settled, and then adjust size/position then?
rare sandal
And I mean tbh I am an expert at breaking things...like did anyone ever read Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians by Brandon Sanderson? That's me, at least with technology. Like pretty sure I have a backwards-King-Midas curse where I break every piece of tech I touch. (Which tbh is funny because I love tech and am an amateur (very amateur) programmer and have played with electronics and stuff...haha.) But like...okay story time. Few years back, I walked across my bedroom to sit on my bed, tripped on something right as I got to the bed, and heard a thump when I sat down. Stood back up to see what had fallen, and stepped directly on my laptop screen.
But wait, there's more...
It took us like a month to first buy a new screen and then install it into the laptop.
The very first day I had it back in working order...I dropped the computer...and BROKE THE NEW SCREEN.
restive zodiac
!saves Cacti Guy#6408 For further info, the startup_preferences are in the same folder your saves are in!
native dragonBOT
@dire fractal Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
restive zodiac
no worries, it's a weird one it's not the type of error I would expect from that particular problem
dire fractal
I am having trouble back-reading the conversation, sorry. @dire fractal did you say what all mods you updated before this started?
slate dew
Hi! I'm pretty new to mods, but I recently installed SVE and Ultimate Farm - finding both of them super great! But today I installed an update for SMAPI and Content Patcher..and now the game won't load for me anymore :(
Since I'm new, I was wondering if anyone here could give me some pointers in troubleshooting. I've done my googling and have done some basic troubleshooting..but nothing has helped so far 😦
restive zodiac
!log rachy#7774 Always the first place to start :)
native dragonBOT
@slate dew Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
rare sandal
@royal arrow With your instructions for FarmExtended...is there any reason step 1 couldn't be replaced by deleting the old FarmTypeManager folder out of the zip file and then installing through Vortex? I'm still thinking about the manual install thing, but for the moment I wanna use Vortex if possible, just for consistency with other mods
royal arrow
that's a fair question! I wrote the instructions with manual install in mind. Let me check the comment again
rare sandal
Okie dokie, ty 🙂
royal arrow
ya you can just delete the old folder that way!
rare sandal
(Also fyi I will be afk any minute now, so if you wouldn't mind, could you ping me if we're still talking and I don't reply within a few mins?)
Oh perfect haha
nvm on the ping XD
slate dew
Oh right. I forgot I had that: https://smapi.io/log/bdae07976d76486dbffebdd5ff0ae9e0
rare sandal
Gotta go now, good timing, ttyl!
dire fractal
I Think* the only other mods I've updated or downloaded were the Immersive characters Shane one, Skull Cavern elevator, Fatter Smoother bear, and a portrait mod
So those + smapi/cp?
yup!
Maybe I should just uninstall/reinstall what I've got
this is probably consequences for having so many mods
A reinstall probably wouldn't hurt. There are people in here playing with 700+ mods at a time though so this isn't too many mods.
^- not a typo
oh my
This might be out of line (because I have no idea if this could be related even), but it might be interesting to try content patcher 1.15 and see if there's any difference at all. Folks feel free to dogpile me if that's super wrong.
royal arrow
sorry, what was the number this individual thought was too many o: ? I'm curious and in need of a larf
dire fractal
But CP 1.16 is ~90 minutes old. >_>
They have 10 mods and 23 content packs
I have currently 35 mods?
royal arrow
aww, to be that young again (lol jk I love having 333 mods)
dire fractal
LenneDalben has... 300 something? yeah that number.
I felt like that was so much omg
So definitely don't worry about using too many. XD
royal arrow
trust me, I used to feel bad about approaching 100, like, stressing out, and then I saw someone running 400+ mods and I let loose lol and then still, like mana said, we hear of people running 700+ mods. so as long as your computer can run the game ok, it's fine 
dire fractal
Okie!
Oh boy okay, gonna go try to fix this, thank yall super much!!!
have a gn/gm <:
If you solve it I'd be curious to hear what it was.
proud badger
700 mods what
slate dew
So I tried reinstalling CP 1.15.2 and I dont seem to have my error anymore
tired apex
Shall I come back with my background commentary on the hundreds of mods subject-
gray frigate
Wow, I thought my 300 mods were pushing it.
slate dew
Do I usually need to immediately make updates when they come out? 😮
royal arrow
we're all about encouraging everyone to find their own fun, however many mods it takes :p
gray frigate
Hah, I have over 1k mods on Skyrim. I think I'm fine on SDV.
tired apex
You people scare me sometimes
dire fractal
Only sometimes? We have work to do, clearly.
royal arrow
Sprinklez, that's impressive! I take it you mod responsibly and merge patches and such. My problem with Skyrim is, no matter what I do to make it stable, eventually, it crashes so often even saving every 2min doesn't help, and I quit LOL
tired apex
Youd be surprised, my dad only slightly moving at his desk scares me more than 700 mods for stardew
gray frigate
Right now I just want to figure out how to get my Animated Content Patcher working again, but I'm a dumb on SDV modding. My pretty gems are all normal. Ewww
tired apex
It's always a "when's it comin" situation at my house lmao
gray frigate
MO2 is amazing and wonderful. Zmerge does save a TON of room, too.
So far my game is amazingly stable and rarely ever crashes.
royal arrow
from peeking at the making mods channel, sounds like CP-A isn't happy with the latest CP update
gray frigate
You could always cheat and use Wabbajack to get a base with all the cleaned files(read lazy) and then add everything you want to it.
royal arrow
ah, I thought wabbajack was a premium exclusive?
gray frigate
Yeah, it doesn't like the new update, but I don't want to roll back.
It is. =/ Granted you can just follow the same guides and do it by hand.
tired apex
I'm assuming I should just wait on updating/downloading new mods until we have a clear okay from the modders?
gray frigate
Everything else is playing nice except my animations.
royal arrow
honestly, my secret is, any time a framework mod updates, I wait like 2-3 weeks minimum, juuuuuuuust in case there's hotfixes >_>
tired apex
Sounds like a smart idea
royal arrow
and keep an eye that any new mods I try to download don't use the new version, and wait on those as well
gray frigate
Nothing really matters except the animated gemstones. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4986
I have a love/hate relationship with it.
lapis void
yeah, CPA is definitely having issues with the latest builds
gray frigate
GORGEOUS in all things, but makes everything else look saaaad.
royal arrow
that's why you can get Better Artisan Goods, Better Crops and Foraging, or Peachy Objects
(that's right, a mod will give you ideas to get other mods, and that's how it begins)
gray frigate
LOL I have most of those.
royal arrow
if you're just looking for more animated stuff, I know Gervig91 has a bunch
royal arrow
Oh ya, I definitely have lots of personal tweaks I made to my mods
restive zodiac
@slate dew Usually it's a good idea to update right away, in this case there's a known problem that only happens with latest update of CP and certain TMXL packs - I would expect an update to either CP or TMXL to fix at some point so keep an eye out :)
(Looks like it will be Content Patcher 😅 )
gray frigate
I wish I had more animated stuff like Gervig, but I'm mostly using a mix of Dustbeauty and Gwen. A personal mix of a few different map recolors and it's pretty much my perfect mix. ^_^
dire fractal
J'accuse!
restive zodiac
@royal arrow @gray frigate WJ is not premium exclusive except for auto-downloading -- it will prompt you through each download if you don't have premium.
gray frigate
(about a million times lol)
gray frigate
Eh, I don't mind throwing them a few dollars every once in a while, considering I've had an account since they started.
restive zodiac
I have lifetime premium, I just don't get much use of auto-downloading since it gives up partway through, hehe.
slate dew
@restive zodiac gotcha, thank you!
outer turret
anyone having issues with East Scarpe/DeepDark not loading, please revert back to Content Patcher 1.15.2 while Pathos works his magic.
restive zodiac
(This is not specifically a problem with EastScarpe but any TMXL pack that uses loadLate to make use of CP tilesheets, which includes SVE for example.)
zenith storm
anyone having issues installing the newest smapi - 3.6.2. my antivirus is freaking out (has never done that before)
tired apex
Everyone is unfortunately
zenith storm
oh dang.
lapis void
yup, it's because it's fairly new and the antivirus doesn't have it in the system, according to pathos
zenith storm
thanks everyone 😄
lapis void
i made it work eventually but i had to re-unzip, keep the file REALLY QUICKLY, then un quarantine it and tell windows defender that yes i really do want it and it's not a trojan
candid pawn
sorry to ask, but i'm still stuck at trying to find an npc at the winter star. her content file says she at 38, 60. but i have no idea what that means. i don't know if sve put something over her spot. also if i change the film number would she move to a new spot?
fair vessel
Lemurkat was saying that the mod author may have done something to stop her from showing up. Your best bet may be posting on the mod page to explain the issue you're having with the winter star gift exchange assignment.
But yes, in theory if you change those numbers it changes the spot they show up at
candid pawn
does anyone know the numbers for in front of the shop?
fair vessel
Pierre's?
candid pawn
yeah, its a clear spot, and if can test if shes on the map at all
candid pawn
thanks so much for your help
lapis void
ruunya, some things you can try to find the npc: (i will say it's abigail for convenience)
debug wtc abigail-wtc is warp to character, so should theoretically warp you straight to her position
debug warp town 38 60--not sure how well this works on festival maps but worth a try
or, either installing the mod Debug Mode or i believe toggling on the debug mode in NPCMapLocations' config should show you the location of the tile under your cursor, and make it a bit easier to find! you may also want Noclip Mode in case the NPC is stuck inside a bush or something
lapis void
riiip so that one's out then
fair vessel
And debug warp <map> <coords> does not work during festivals either
lapis void
i have to use wtc to find lewis every time i have a quest from him bc every time i look for him he is in the void behind his house
fair vessel
It either does nothing or puts you in your festival starting spot
lapis void
i have just accepted this at this point
candid pawn
... just found that out... but she still didn't spawn even after moving her
lapis void
well, debug mode or npc map locations' debug mode will show you tile locations still
which npc is this? maybe she is somehow kept from spawning at winter star
candid pawn
i found the tile, but shes still not there 😦
fair vessel
yeah 😦
lapis void
debug where probably won't work either right?
fair vessel
This is her original spot 38, 60 btw
candid pawn
still think if there was a way to change gift givers in the save folder or something
fair vessel
Yeah debug where also outputs schedule coordinates
lapis void
i swear something somewhere was done as a fix for not assigning gift givers who aren't at winter star?
fair vessel
I know that the way gift recipients are assigned is pregenerated. But yeah I wonder if there's a way to change it after its assigned on Winter 18 or whenever
candid pawn
or if there was a work around like give the gifts to the mayor and he gives you your gift, kind of like a real secret santa
fair vessel
No, there's nothing in the save data that stores secret santa target
It gives me an idea though.
Since custom NPCs are able to be part of the gift exchange, adding custom NPCs obviously changes the randomization result.
I suggest you find and install another NPC to your game (any social NPC will do) and then load up your save and check your mail collection to see if your assignee has changed retroactively 
candid pawn
interesting
fair vessel
Though hmm... it may only work if you've been introduced to the NPC. So see if you can find one that lives somewhere accessible like Cindersap forest; try catching them there and talking to them if your first check of the mail shows no change
(and if that doesn't work, see if you can roll back one day and talk to them on Winter 24)
restive zodiac
I would like the horse story taps fingers together although I have a slightly less funny one also
proud badger
Horses: A Cautionary Tale
So, if you play multiplayer with Adopt n Skin installed, several things start to go a bit screwy
fair vessel
(you can also use warp commands to jump straight into an NPC's house anywhere if necessary)
outer turret
I'll check her code
fair vessel
Oooh
Is this a multiplying horses story?
proud badger
the first thing you notice is that, if you have horses and use the horse whistle, the game will literally yeet another player across their current map in an attempt to warp them to you
this happens whether they're riding the horse or not
candid pawn
@fair vessel trying to look for an npc i haven't tryed yet
outer turret
Pl had the issue with Boxy iirc
proud badger
corrin was thrown across the town map and into the buildable tiles when I tried to summon the horse
and when the horse didnt appear
I kept pressing it
.... many times
restive zodiac
hehehe
fair vessel
oh no
proud badger
I didn't understand what was happening cause corrin was literally just screaming in the chat
lots of WHAT IS HAPPENING and WTFFF
restive zodiac
"shut up corrin I'm trying to figure out where my horse is"
proud badger
lmao
I was verY confused
when we reported this bug to Gathouria, we got a test build
and during the testing, we discovered that having a farmhand ride a horse off the farm map will cause it to clone itself
after which, every time you mount or dismount the horse
it spawns a new clone
one time we actually couldn't see any clones and we thought it was fixed
but then we pulled up the animal list and turns out there were like 30
they were lost in the void
oh and then really fucky things started happening to the farmer sprite
outer turret
Ghost horse!
gray frigate
It's just the windows defender being a jerk.
outer turret
So what happened to all your horses?
stable anchor
proud badger
they had to be killed
fun fact
thats a vanilla debug command iwhfoewfh
killallhorses
rose python
how does one update smapi by the way?
proud badger
anyway, yeah don't.... use ans on a mp save this has been a psa lmao
rose python
just wanted to make sure to do it properly and not mess up anything with my mods too
nvm got it
restive zodiac
@rose python Just download the new version and run the installer!
rose python
Thank you mouse.
split nacelle
hi all, im guessing content patcher animations isnt working cause the og content patcher mod just got updated?
split nacelle
yes, just updated a bunch of mods today
but yeah ig i have to wait for the animations update! too bad i just added animation mods today 
pine ledge
Just keep using 1.15.2 for now. There's been some major changes in 1.16
pine ledge
Yeah. 1.16 is a feature update, not a bugfix, so it's not going to make anything you use better by using it. Save maybe SVO with the optimisations added.
naive drum
tfw nexus lags like hell
restive zodiac
My horse story is not as funny. I was in a multiplayer game mainly for testing purposes but with occasional silliness and pranks. My internet is pretty bad, and there were several days where I would get locked out of chests and stuff like that because it took so long to open, I would have to leave the area just to let someone else use it because I couldn't close it until I could see it open.
But in one of my "duck into house" adventures, I realized I had a lag superpower https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340622032456777731/739719483714830426/unknown.png
outer turret
that's interesting decor
restive zodiac
It took me so long to mount the horse, that I could walk inside and look around and then be mounted on a new horse the game provided for me
outer turret
took me a while to find you
restive zodiac
This escalated quickly https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340622032456777731/739719897931710474/unknown.png
(leaving horses snuggled in everyone's beds)
(the grass was green, but then I installed or uninstalled a mod and it season shifted it was better green for dino jungle :P )
zenith storm
I lol'd at the horse in the bed
restive zodiac
There are probably some not good side effects to multiple lag induced horse clones in different interiors but ... :D
(Also I almost made someone pass out because they had trouble squeezing into the bed with horse.)
outer turret
it's not just a head!
restive zodiac
Yeah horse butt takes up a lot of room under blankets, haha.
I spent a stupid amount of time mounting and dismounting horse and wiggling around to get its little head peeking up over the pillow 😄
dire fractal
See, I see the screenshot with "this escalated quickly" and if I don't read all the context I think mouse is making a mafia game
restive zodiac
yeah, haha.
dire fractal
and now I refuse to read and solve that, so in my head mouse == mafia
restive zodiac
"hey my girlfriend is going to pop in and visit us for a bit, don't be weird"
outer turret
For those of you wondering how the "where is Abandoned Bride" story ended, she doesn't appear at festivals until you see her 8 heart event and if you have SVE she doesnt' appear at all. Unless you delete the condition, which we did.
crystal bramble
So, i think i already fixed this, so i don't know if logs will help. But, i updated smapi and like, 3 mods that had updates and it gave me an error. I was looking at it and it seemed to be doing what it did the last time i had and error. Which was trying to read a save that was no longer there. Last time i went into the files and removed them manually and it fixed it. Which fixed it this time to, thing is, i haven't created any new characters or save files since the first time. So i don't know where the save file that gave me the error came from. Cause it's not the file I'm playing on. Is that a thing that can happen, a save you never made coming up out of thin air?
restive zodiac
Have you checked the saves folder for the file in question?
It's hard to guess without the details - I would not expect "a save you never made coming up out of thin air", but it would probably be hard to figure out what happened after it's fixed
crystal bramble
Yea, it was there and i removed it and it fixed it. But, i haven't actually made any new saves, so i don't know where it came from.
restive zodiac
Not sure, that does seem pretty weird.
PS, my junimo kart shrine (oh, or at least what looks to be a WIP of it, sadly) in that game 😔 (it was almost entirely unmodded, so no crib removal and fun additional placement items shakes fist
crystal bramble
It really is, cause last time i went into appdata and removed the file in question which fixed it, cause i had deleted an old save but apparently there was a reminant there. Doing that this time as well fixed it to. But, i haven't made any new saves since i did that.
restive zodiac
The needing to clean up leftover files after deleting in-game saves part is normal, at least.
crystal bramble
Yea, I've noticed that recently. But with no saves being deleted since the last time i cleaned it out, I'm just confused. Lol.
deep totem
oo, how do we get the tree and grass grow inside???
crystal bramble
Yellow? What does yellow mean? I haven't had that yet. Lol. Just the red.
outer turret
yellow is just warnings that don't break the game
usually relating to Bad Gift Taste data or inability to load certain files so we'll use this one instead.
crystal bramble
Huh, the only red text i got never actually caused any issues. It was more like hey, we're trying to find a save that isn't there even though it's not the one you are trying to play on, maybe go delete it.
pine ledge
I wish there was something to better help me visualise how long the pauses were when I make events.
outer turret
well, you are very lucky in that regard
pine ledge
Wait. Wrong channel. Whoops
crystal bramble
Yea, lol. I also try not to use a lot of mods, cause I'm still learning. I've only ever modded dragon age before this. And it was just drag and drop so it was super easy.
restive zodiac
oo, how do we get the tree and grass grow inside???
@deep totem You can place grass wherever you like, including inside! It just will only spread on the farm :) The trees are furniture items you can get in game!
( you get them from ||the theater's crane game|| just in case you haven't gotten there yet)
dire fractal
...grass
grow
inside
???!?
lapis void
lilith i remember that being an issue with.... i forget the name of the horse mod, but did you get a mod that allows you to interact with your horse and give it treats and such by chance?
fair vessel
crystal bramble
No. I have automate, chests anywhere, lookup anything, tractor mod, cjb cheats, automatic gates, stack everything, ui info suite, non destructive npcs, and npc map locations.
restive zodiac
(thought that said more destructive npcs for a second)
heavy sail
I have had that same problem
dire fractal
Cat: Why won't you pet meeeeee?!?!
Also Cat: Human can't stop me yelling if human can't reach me.
supple echo
In this case it's not a big deal, just funny 😁
Pretty sure kitty adores me by now anyway
heavy sail
Yeah, I've learned just to let it go, it's cute to me
dire fractal
I dunno that heart looks pretty empty. "Cat has never been fed in entire history of time according to local cat" kinda deal.
crystal bramble
More destructive, Lmao. They just walk in your house and throw everything around. 😂
supple echo
my roommate's cat has dry food available upstairs at all times, but she knows and will tell us when wet-food dinnertime is
dire fractal
Pam walks in - "WHERE'S THE PALE ALE I ASKED FOR 3 SECONDS AGO" - kegs flying
supple echo
we think maybe she likes the ritual more than the actual food 😄
dire fractal
They are very schedule-bound critters.
supple echo
hah, Pam requests that pale ale like two whole seasons before I usually get kegs
dire fractal
I need to install a mod so I'm at exactly 100.
crystal bramble
"I said pale ale, not beer!"-yeets table across the room.
dire fractal
That is clearly good and rational thinking
supple echo
when I get my own cat I gotta try feeding it breakfast at the time I need to get up
it'll suck for the first week or two but then I'll never oversleep again (I hope)
dire fractal
*never be allowed to sleep in ever again
supple echo
…considering how fucked up my sleep schedule is, that'd be more consistency than I've had for it in years
so maybe not a bad thing 😉
fair vessel
I need to install a mod so I'm at exactly 100.
@dire fractal I can suggest one ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ᵐᵒᵈˢ if you need? LOL
dire fractal
My housemates may have claimed their cat was untrainable and could never learn to broface before leaving on a week long vacation. They may also have been upset with me when they returned.
fair vessel
trojan warning?
vernal cipher
yes
fair vessel
i made it work eventually but i had to re-unzip, keep the file REALLY QUICKLY, then un quarantine it and tell windows defender that yes i really do want it and it's not a trojan
corrin [catstar8] said they worked around it
of course not lol
dire fractal
If it is it's the most incredible, nefarious, and poorly-targeted scheme in game development history.
vernal cipher
how do I install it?
fair vessel
It's just new and Windows defender doesn't know what it is so it makes up something scary sounding lol
Try (temporarily) disabling windows defender
dire fractal
"This file is from the internet and I don't know who made it. SCARY HACKERS DEATH" etc.
fair vessel
If it is it's the most incredible, nefarious, and poorly-targeted scheme in game development history.
@dire fractal RIP Pathos if so lol
we trusted you!!!
dire fractal
I'll steal all the money of... a small community of people playing a relatively cheap indie game... mua...haha? 😒
vernal cipher
but of course, he was not a api dev
just a modder
why am I talking about that
Anyway, for anyone having the same issues that I'm having. Just find a dat file under its internal folder. For example, on Windows it is a file named windows-install.dat move that file to the Stardew directory and use the Zip Application of your preference to open it and extract its content.
Why? Just to make sure that the file is there. Then go to Windows Security -> Virtus & Threat protection -> Protection history, select actions and whitelist the executable.
dire fractal
as far as what it's complaining about?
vernal cipher
that StardewModdingAPI.exe is a trojan
Anyone in there? I'm having this cluttering again. It happens from time to time, whenever I update my mods.
dire fractal
Right, only windows defender seems to think there's an issue.
narrow thicket
So, my antivirus is telling me that smapi 3.6.2 is a virus
vernal cipher
So, my antivirus is telling me that smapi 3.6.2 is a virus
@narrow thicket and to everyone in here
dire fractal
That seems to be a common detection issue we're hearing about.
vernal cipher
I hope that pathoschild was not hacked, and someone uploaded a trojan version
narrow thicket
Is it safe to download it tho?
vernal cipher
yes
dire fractal
Kaspersky says it doesn't find anything if I throw the file it complains about at their threat portal https://opentip.kaspersky.com/999FCCF48921CA10C7ACF081625726157280303F827D4FFC95AC4227CBAF1BBE/
ESET with today's definitions also says fine.
junior musk
Just gonna ask this in advance.
fair vessel
When I get out of the farmhouse, the game freezes
@vernal cipher do you run a lot of mods that replace textures and stuff? Those sorts of mods (and SVO especially) can take a good deal of loading time when exiting the farmhouse in the morning
junior musk
Is it everyone's suggestion that, when 1.5 (any bigger update) comes out, I should disable/not run any mods until they're all updated/confirmed as working?
vernal cipher
@vernal cipher do you run a lot of mods that replace textures and stuff? Those sorts of mods (and SVO especially) can take a good deal of loading time when exiting the farmhouse in the morning
@fair vessel no, I think, not at all
it only happens when I update mods
fair vessel
Many mod users take a short break from playing (or playing on important save files) when game updates come out yeah
dire fractal
Or at least back up their saves, though SMAPI does that automagically
junior musk
Right
fair vessel
Interesting. I wonder which mods are contributing to that
vernal cipher
i have dozens of mods, but few to none that affect textures or sprites
dire fractal
!log kick up your SMAPI log ? maybe it says something interesting
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
vernal cipher
could it be tractor engine sounds
fair vessel
I hear that if you use smapi for developers, you get more console output that can inform you what smapi is busy doing when the game hangs like that
Or maybe the config option in normal smapi would do the same
fair vessel
Looks like it's all SVE and IF2R things. And wait, I was under the impression that this was a temporary freeze - is it permanent?
dire fractal
just started after this last round of updates?
vernal cipher
yes
fair vessel
The log you sent just stops though. Did you let it run long enough to unfreeze and then do something else, move off the farm map?
A log with that data might have more information
vernal cipher
ok
maybe if I delete this log and create a new one
is there any way to disable logging
I think that this logging has something to do
fair vessel
If you run the game again it always overwrites the last log. No need to delete
vernal cipher
because as I noticed, as soon as I get out of the farmhouse there are tons of things being logged
and I/O is a bush when talking about time and latency
it seems there is no way to disable logging
dire fractal
completely unrelated - jonqora your mods seem to be threatening to call me bananacakes
dire fractal
.___. nuclear angry grandpa?
fair vessel
heheh
vernal cipher
no way to disable logging, sad
dire fractal
what kind of hard drive is this on?
vernal cipher
now that you said it, I'm about to move the installation to the SSD
maybe it will improve the loadouts
dire fractal
could do
I'd be surprised if smapi logging was the cause, just to throw that out there
vernal cipher
and for some reason, the farmhouse remains dark, until leaving it. In the morning
dire fractal
is it autumn / winter and did you set dynamic lighting to your latitude?
dire fractal
I think that's the cause. Haven't verified but I get that after putting in dynamic lighting
I keep typing lightning
fair vessel
nuclear angry grandpa spoiler:
restive zodiac
@junior musk You can just make a copy of your entire 1.4.x game folder, Mods and all. That way you can keep playing your modded saves with all your mods as is, and also update to latest.
vernal cipher
ok @fair vessel now the log is filled I'll post it here
for some reason albeit to how drowsy I'm, I typed lightining and lightning
ignore those
junior musk
I suppose it's an issue with mods that aren't being actively maintained. I don't use many, but out of all those, UI Info seems to be the one that may seem a little abandoned. Or there just hasn't been a reason to update it.
fair vessel
And some really kind artists have made multiple sets of alternate grandpa portraits
vernal cipher
@restive zodiac do you know if there is any way to disable SMAPI logging?
restive zodiac
If a mod is open source it'll usually get updated eventually. (Though UI Info Suite consists of various features other individual mods also do, and often better :) )
Not that I know of. Why do you think logging is the problem?
vernal cipher
well afaik anything that writes down to a file creates a bottleneck
specially if it is a verbose file (in this example a text file)
if it was simply a dat file it would be faster
changing to ssd had no effect or whatsoever
and I have put a watcher on the log
only when logging is finished the game unfreezes
fair vessel
Yeah, I can't really see hints from the log of what might be acting so slow :c
vernal cipher
it improved the starting time though, the game starts way faster
there should be two options, first disable the smapi console, only a background process
second, disable logging
anything that gives inputs is prone to slow down applications
dire fractal
The game unfreezing when the logging stops doesn't necessarily mean the logging is the issue though. The logging will pause when it has nothing to write, so presumably whatever gnarly thing is going on that causes the freeze ends, which causes the log to stop progressing, and then you unfreeze.
restive zodiac
I'd mute this channel. The last thing I would want is an option to disable the single most important troubleshooting tool so that everyone who gets the idea that logging is a problem turns it off
You could run a custom build though
dire fractal
there's no high5 emoji
vernal cipher
I do agree, it is a very important part for troubleshooting, which could be toggled on/off if any problem arises.
but since it is modding, I think it is very convenient to have it at hand
I'm very drowsy, so I may be saying nonsensical things, I beg pardon please
what strikes me the most, is that this happens to me whenever a batch of mod updates happen.
dire fractal
there's really not much in this log. farm type manager and deep wood do a bit, but I don't see why that would cause hangs
restive zodiac
You can disable the console on Linux, but Pathos would have to answer on the logging, or modify and build from source I guess.
Have you tried reverting ?
vernal cipher
because I'm sleeppy I have overwritten everything
I usually move the folders to a different one, in case of any incompatibility
dire fractal
what all got updated?
vernal cipher
a bunch
and it would make no sense for it to be still hanging after moving the game to the SSD
ugh
this means one thing, it is time to go to the bed
dire fractal
that helps - get sleep; tackle problem when more alert!
vernal cipher
what mods I have updated, SMAPI, TMXL, PyTK, LookUpAnything, Fast Animations, Extended Minecart, Dynamic Night Time, Content Patcher
by the way, the hanging happens [05:07:47 TRACE SMAPI] Invalidated 1 asset names (Data\NPCDispositions); propagated 1 core assets.
it seems that TMXL tries to build a cache
but it gets invalidated
anyway, thank you all for your help. my apologies for any nonsense I said
outer turret
Claire is still antisocial?
deep totem
I take it is about SVE? She'll be full npc in next update I heard,