Hey guys. Got what looks like smoke coming out of the area above my house. Anyone know why? Thanks
#archived-modded-support
grim totem
velvet tiger
Your fireplace inside the house is on
pastel arch
Yeah, looks like the chimney smoke
velvet tiger
And the map does not render smoke in the proper place
If you turn the fireplace "off" and go back out it shouldn't bw there
royal arrow
@hybrid marlin dialog incompatibility issues are pretty minor if they do occur. The mod loaded last "wins" and that's the dialog line you'll see, so it's not like there will be a crash. the biggest issue would be in "lore conflicts" where a character was written one way in 1 mod but differently in another
hybrid marlin
i don’t mind that too much, thank you!
royal arrow
Although that Abigail mod also adds events, so you may see glitchy events with SVE, since SVE changes a lot of the maps
hybrid marlin
i’m already at ten hearts with her on my main save so i’m considering starting a new one just to see the dialogue and events
grim totem
Ahhh thanks guys
oak solar
just give her stuff she hates
marry her and divorce her
get her back to 0 hearts lom
lol
rose python
Does anybody have any issues with receiving achievements? Some go through and some won't.
broken frost
So today I'm learning Stardew Valley mods are pyramid mods.
broken frost
A mod I want will require two different mods, and THOSE mods will require two different mods, etc.
rose python
I just got networking achievement and it didn't show up on Steam but the clique one I got yesterday did. ; ;
broken frost
And as a result, I'm going to end up with a bunch of different farming mods all because I just wanted a personal anvil mod ;_;
sharp belfry
Uh, did you check if some of those requirements aren't optional? That sounds weird.
rose python
I feel you @broken frost I just downloaded a mod to change horse skin and had to install the adoptskin mod as well.
royal arrow
For personal anvil O.o? You can get the recipe a couple different ways, with different requirements
fervent minnow
Anyone know of a program to match these colors a bit more quickly than filling in one section at a time in Paint lol
rose python
Yeah, it's just being weird with achievements. :/
royal arrow
@fervent minnow I think #making-mods-general peeps will know for sure, I've seen them talk about it before
rose python
As a matter of fact, I have 8 achievements in the game but have only 5 on Steam.
sharp belfry
@broken frost bro these are all you need for personal anvil and it says right there that the ppja one is optional
royal arrow
(unrelated but I use the Brave browser on my computer and my phone, which blocks ads without using extensions, so I was thoroughly confused about allegro down there LOL I always forget the internet looks very different from what I'm used to)
sharp belfry
I use ecosia cause it plants trees
daring wagon
@restive zodiac @fair vessel I found my string! It is, ofc, in SVE. Have posted to the github about it. Thanks for pointing me to the right things to look for!!
devout pumiceBOT
New quote added by LenneDalben as #4948
supple echo
I was going to delete the "Fresh Meat" mod from the collection of added farming stuff I installed as a unit for Artisan Valley, but then I looked at the json files 😄
If my animals are safe and happy and I'm basically just growing my own Impossible Burgers, I think I can live with that 😄 weird as the idea of "chickenvine" is, haha
(I'd be a terrible vegetarian IRL, but I'd also be a terrible meat-animal farmer)
royal arrow
S A M E
I was deeply shocked when I was playing with my SO and we passed Marnie's ranch and they made a joke "I'm hungry, I want some steak" on seeing the cows 
those cows are for cuteness and milk, how dare you
supple echo
I'm not sure I could survive, perhaps literally, without turkey sandwiches… but that doesn't mean I want to think about eating the cute wild turkeys that wander around some parts of my city!
I feel quite certain Marnie does not raise meat animals on her ranch. She's far too softhearted for that.
Also on the note of things I installed for Artisan Valley, has anyone else experienced the Kitchen Station Set not seeing the contents of the fridges, except at the station right next to the fridge?
(I'm ditching it, but just wondered)
exotic linden
i am sorry if i disturb but i seem to have an issue with my game. actually when i wanna end the day the sound of a level up appears and then my game makes a CTD. i tryed figureing it out with removeing the mods i installed lately but that dosnt seemd to have it fixed ;w; yesterday it worked fine but now i dont know what should i else do to fix it. Also before the CTD happens smapi shows some error messages in red but the window closes its to fast to actually read something out of it. would be nice if someone could help me. i would unlikely just deinstall the game since i had some fun playing with mods ;w;
supple echo
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
royal arrow
@supple echo I don't think it currently pulls ingredients from the main fridge. I asked Cherry about this earlier today and she said it would pull from the mini-fridges but not the main fridge. It being the framework mod, Custom Crafting Stations (CCS)
supple echo
(That should also let us see the error messages 🙂 )
daring wagon
ooooh it will pull from the mini-fridges tho? I could have like, 15 of those
royal arrow
yea the latest version pulls from mini fridges
supple echo
@royal arrow huh. My main fridge is crops, so I wonder if that was affecting something. Maybe I'll reinstall it for a bit and get some screenshots
royal arrow
note Cherry intends to update it to pull from the main fridge as well lol just hasn't gotten around to it yet
supple echo
I could always reshuffle and put the cooked foods in the main fridge for a while
daring wagon
I am working out this complicated setup with expanded fridge and remote fridge storage and hoping for a CCS update in the meantime
royal arrow
uhhh yea it's on Cherry's radar to add remote fridge storage compatibility, not sure about expanded fridge, since that was only just recently updated o:
supple echo
Other unrelated things I'm curious about:
16:24:30 ERROR SMAPI Skipped mods
16:24:30 ERROR SMAPI --------------------------------------------------
16:24:30 ERROR SMAPI These mods could not be added to your game.
16:24:30 ERROR SMAPI - Mod List 1.1.1 because its DLL couldn't be loaded.
(Full log here: https://smapi.io/log/32ea6e670a794aa6ae198271fa1008aa )
I don't really need that one, but it looked handy for making a list of what I've got
dire fractal
Could somebody explain why the cut scene is like this?
supple echo
(And thanks for the fridges info!!)
supple echo
yes! thank you for uploading it. 😄
fervent minnow
Is there any way in Custom Music to mute Stardew's default soundtrack?
royal arrow
oh, you're a Mac person, Glowbug o: I recommend leaving a comment for the mod author for that one, since I thought they had updated the mod to work on Linux and Mac, but it looks like it didn't take o: (I'm a windows person and that mod loads)
supple echo
Ah! Good to know, I'll do that.
@exotic linden wow this is a lot of errors 😮
!xnb I'm not sure what all of these mean, but it looks like you were trying to use some XNB mods, so resetting/verifying your game files might not be a bad idea
native dragonBOT
XNB mods often break the game and are not recommended. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for more info (and a list of Content Patcher alternatives), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files to fix problems caused by XNB mods. For mod creators, see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).
exotic linden
stupid question what are xnb mods? or wich i had installed
lapis void
any mods that told you to install them by replacing files in the content folder of the game
royal arrow
the governor message's first link has info on them as well
exotic linden
i saw as far as i know only one mod wich seem to want to be installed on the content folder (btw sorry for my bad english ;w,)
supple echo
!xnbzola
native dragonBOT
An XNB mod replaces some of your game's .xnb files to change the game (unlike newer mods that go in your Mods folder). This is an older type of mod that's no longer recommended, and can cause a number of issues. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for help using them (and a list of alternatives using Content Patcher), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/156109690059751424/575085766426886145/ZolasFury.png
royal arrow
Ok, that first link also has a list of Content Patcher (CP) conversions for XNB mods, so you can check there for the one you wanted. Someone might have converted it to CP and you can still use it! 
supple echo
SMAPI found and didn't load a few XNB mods that were probably in your mods folder instead of replacing game files, but I don't think we have any way to tell if you had others 
exotic linden
i try to troubleshoot the xnb mods now and will see if it runs again ^w^ thx for the much help so far......didnt expected that
supple echo
Sure! We'll be here if it still doesn't work. People in this channel are very friendly. 🙂
exotic linden
very very kind of u all ^w^
supple echo
(what are we crossing fingers for 🤞🏻 )
supple echo
ohh, I see 😄
exotic linden
IT WORKED oh sorry
supple echo
YAY!
supple echo
you are very welcome! 😄 I'm glad we could help you get things fixed
hearty mantle
hey, I just modded my game and tried to play multiplayer, but the person connecting to the server has an infinite loading screen. what do?
daring wagon
Everything seems A-Ok XD thanks Lenne!!
royal arrow
!mpmods @hearty mantle
native dragonBOT
@hearty mantle See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F for details on how mods work in multiplayer. :)
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
supple echo
please do!
hearty mantle
royal arrow
Emil is that your log, or the other person's? Also can you clarify who is hosting?
hearty mantle
this one is mine. I tried hosting but the person connecting got an infinite loading screen, so then they hosted and I got an infinite loading screen
royal arrow
Ok so couple things:
up at the very top, 2 mods are listed as needing updates, you can grab those.
Then the bit of red text Skipped mods is letting you know Teh's Fishing Overhaul didn't load because it's no longer compatible, and provides you a link to mods.smapi.io. Go there, and you can search for Teh's Fishing Overhaul, there's an unofficial update to it
daring wagon
Note about one of those mods that needs an update: It's an old, broken mod
Health Bars
royal arrow
If we could get the log from the other person, that would also be helpful
daring wagon
There are replacements, you can look for one of those!
hearty mantle
well, they are using the exact same mods, so I don't think there'd be much of a difference
I'll get them now tho
royal arrow
I use the health bar mod listed here https://github.com/Zoryn4163/SMAPI-Mods/releases
daring wagon
greedily eyes the download button on like 5 of those
royal arrow
(I also use the Junimos Deposit Anywhere mod listed there lol)
supple echo
noooo I have like 200 mods already 😄
royal arrow
(join the dark side, I've lost count but I know I'm around 311+, but the people who say they can run a stable game with 700 give me hope)
supple echo
(haha maybe! launching the game is starting to take an awfully long time…)
royal arrow
(yea for me it varies, but it can be a solid 5min)
Emil, after you and the other person but update the mods you need to, try loading the game again, and let us know what happens o: if you still have issues, you can provide new logs
hearty mantle
alright, working on it!
fair vessel
@daring wagon I found the QF bug, I posted for purrpling to know how to fix it
royal arrow
Jonqora is a ⭐ 
fair vessel
It was kind of an important one. Without fixing it would mean that offering a quest and then an item in same dialogue entry (even without any dialogue ! marks), the quest offer would break
So @daring wagon your red text irritation turned out to be very helpful to save some future QF modder a huge headache!
supple echo
Hmmm. The kitchen stations are… sometimes seeing what's in my mini-fridges. Slash the regular fridge.
so by the sink seems to be fine…
royal arrow
couple things:
- do you have the latest update?
- what's the radius you set in the config? by default, it only pulls from chests/mini-fridges "directly next to the station"
supple echo
config? -checks all the kitchen stations, then remembers to check the CustomCraftingStation mod itself- Ahh. Well, as soon as I get further over than the sink and the stove, the fridge is apparently not "right next to the station" anymore. In fact, my mini-fridges are across the room, though that's oddly not a problem at the stations right by the main fridge
hearty mantle
after tinkering around some, and adding the new Health Bars mod, it says that an update is available for it, but the page it sends me to on nexusmods is for 'Lookup Anything'. guessing it's just a typo?
royal arrow
Emil, yea that can sometimes happen, you can always try searching for the actual mod in nexus and verify you have the latest version
supple echo
all right, I'm setting the radius to 10 and seeing if that helps
royal arrow
@supple echo yea the config for CCS has the radius setting, and it's by tiles, so the default value, which I think is 0, is only 1 tile away, while 1 is actually 2 tiles away, etc.
however, remember the main fridge is currently not registering with CCS. mini-fridges work because internally in the code, they're technically "chests"
hearty mantle
nope, still not working.. here's the log: https://smapi.io/log/e024329871574eb280d66d78537d736c
supple echo
…See, you say that, but all my fruits and vegetables are in the main fridge rn and the mini-fridges are emphatically not next to the kitchen counter, so I'm confused.
Is it somehow doing a weird mesh with the regular cooking?
royal arrow
wait so it is pulling from the main fridge?
hearty mantle
i'm guessing the problem is that we installed mods that are uncompatible for multiplayer, i'll have to look into that
royal arrow
from the vanilla stove, or an added kitchen station?
supple echo
If I stand at the sink or the stove, yes!
I haven't added anything yet, just installed the mods
royal arrow
well isn't that where the normal vanilla stove is? lol
supple echo
yeah. It still cuts down the recipe selection there though
royal arrow
yea so the normal vanilla stove will still pull from the main fridge, that's vanilla behavior. I thought you meant the custom kitchen stations were also pulling from the main fridge
supple echo
Okay. I think I thought the entire kitchen had custom whatever overlaid on it because I'm still only seeing a subset of recipes at the vanilla stove and sink
royal arrow
Ah! so the kitchen station set mod still removes recipes from the vanilla stove, because they're now available on the custom stations
daring wagon
@hearty mantle I had a little lag trouble with Climates of Ferngill. Maybe your friend can try disabling that (put a . in front of the name of the mod folder) and see if that lets them load in more easily?
It's a great mod, just a kind of big one and a place to start with looking
hearty mantle
well unfortunately they got upset and went to sleep, but it'll be the first thing I try tomorrow
daring wagon
Aww sorry
royal arrow
Emil, you could also try temporarily toggling off the health bars mod by adding . at the beginning of the mod folder name
supple echo
aha!
recipes!
However, I can assure you my pumpkins are still in the main fridge. 😄
royal arrow
then maybe Cherry implemented the features after all LOL nope, confirmed there was a secret pumpkin~
supple echo
But expanding the radius seems to have made the "different recipes at different spots" thing work! Yay!
hearty mantle
well, thanks a lot for the help so far! gonna head to sleep and I'll be back tomorrow if I can't fix it 
supple echo
hmm. Actually, that says I have just one pumpkin, but I have 25. I wonder if I put one in a mini-fridge by accident?
royal arrow
now I want to rummage through your fridges LOL
supple echo
ohhhh there's one in the extra chest by the oil maker
torn mason
Yeah I completely forgot about fridges 
supple echo
mystery solved
hi! 👋🏻 I've been thoroughly confusing everybody thinking your mod was pulling from the main fridge when it wasn't. 😄
I think I see what's going on now though
I can just rearrange and put the cooked foods in the main fridge and then everything should work 🙂
dire fractal
How does one add mods to the game?
royal arrow
Hi PokeKing, check out the getting started guide, it walks you through the process https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
royal arrow
!modrecs
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
restive zodiac
(I just got home and was scrolling back a little and saw
The kitchen stations are… sometimes seeing what's in my mini-fridges
but I kind of chunk-read it as
The kitchen stations are seeping into the minifridge...
)
royal arrow
This has some good mods to start off with
devout pumiceBOT
@fast river: look into spells not updating the hotbar after leaving the altar (6h ago)
supple echo
there we go, all fixed 😄
royal arrow
My list is 300+ mods long so that may be too overwhelming to start off with lol but it has a table of contents so it's easy to navigate, let me know if you want to look through it 😆
(mouse, I meant to do rofl, not pufferparty, but it seemed to work for someone lol)
molten rivet
I have 40 mods, but I don’t want much more cause I only have an old laptop
supple echo
(I switched the crops fridge with the cooked-stuff mini-fridge)
Oooh, Marnie sent me instructions for a butter churn! This artisan stuff is exciting 😄
royal arrow
yea I keep going back and forth on Artisan Valley, because on the one hand, I like having more artisan equipment, but on the other hand, so many dependencies
broken frost
Oh good, every single one of my Json Assets mods errored out because items with the same keys as every one of the mods has already been added.
supple echo
yeah, there were a lot 😮 I thought I already had a lot of mods, but to install that I had to add even more!!
restive zodiac
(mouse, I meant to do rofl, not pufferparty, but it seemed to work for someone lol)
I was wondering who really enjoyed kitchen renovation disasters :D
supple echo
lol
sorry, I kinda jumped on the bandwagon and then neglected to jump off
the mental image is pretty funny though
restive zodiac
I always end up wanting to use just a few of all the PPJA mods, I need some kind of director's cut for people that are really shitty farmers and can't be having those million acre farms of every crop and sheds full of automated machines
royal arrow
ChrisHighwind, can you provide your log? I'm curious as to what's going on
restive zodiac
("This would be enough... oh but I want that from this other one... which comes with all that...")
royal arrow
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
royal arrow
you know...I've recently started going rogue and deleting some of the shirts in big shirt packs that I don't like. You could always try that with the crops 😅 (I've been tempted but haven't done it yet)
broken frost
daring wagon
Ahh! I had something like that when I first downloaded some kimchi stuff too. I fixed it, hang on, lemme see if it was the same mods as yours
broken frost
Sorry, had to switch to Web Discord to get the log since my PC's connected to a TV on top of a dresser.
daring wagon
Yeah it is, sweet
Easy fix
Both Kimchi Maker and Artisan Valley Machine Goods try to add an object named Kimchi. Just delete or rename the one you like least.
broken frost
Ahh, ok, and apparently that Kimchi object completely ruins every other mod
royal arrow
your log took a while to load on my computer, but also you're missing Fresh Meat, so Even More Recipes isn't loading
well it just takes the one error to throw the whole symphony off 😆
broken frost
What? I could've sworn I downloaded Fresh Meat
daring wagon
It's duplicate objects-the game just can't handle things being named the same
royal arrow
And also, you have the outdated BFAV so that didn't load either. If you go to mods.smapi.io and search for it there, it will have a link to the unofficial update, @broken frost
supple echo
(I'm going to spell-check the json file later because there have been a few typos that take me out of it, but still, so cute)
daring wagon
Hah! Me.... I admit to "fixing" The Perks of Being Married...
supple echo
Yeeeeeeah I may have started making some edits in that one too… too late for it to kick in for me, but yeah…
Maybe next save 🙂
broken frost
Also, anyone know of any mods to make the HUD bigger? I'm kinda playing from across a small room, and my TV's only 30-ish inches
royal arrow
yea I've tweaked lots of mods for my own use, including typo fixes
broken frost
So I had a bit of trouble with the numbers to indicate how much of something is stacked
royal arrow
ChrisHighwind, would a zoom mod do the trick? I've not used one, but maybe it would work?
broken frost
Nah, I use the zoom feature a lot on PS4, but it gets tiring having to zoom in to read it then zoom out to keep playing.
supple echo
(I may also have spell-checked the whole thing and even rewritten bits of several of the characters I'm familiar with even though I'm a sucker for Leah and probably won't end up marrying the others)
royal arrow
yea I have a mod in which Lewis sends you letters to remind you people's birthdays (Birthday Mail) and I rewrote several bits to suite my liking lol
supple echo
aww, Evelyn gave me cookies
fair vessel
So I've been looking into a e s t h e t i c ways to organize my mod recommendation list... and I'm 70% convinced to actually start a tumblr for them with a custom theme 
royal arrow
ooooh, very snazzy~! o:
daring wagon
Fun XD
fair vessel
I have a particular vision of how I want it to work and look, and was considering building my own website from scratch for it until now 🤣
But I think I might have found a setup with tumblr that comes close.
further updates to come lol
royal arrow
oooh, suspense~ 👀
supple echo
awww, the happy birthday cutscene at Leah's doesn't seem to work with SVE… I got stuck 😦
daring wagon
😦 Noclipmode?
royal arrow
oh no
you can leave a comment for the Happy Birthday mod author, letting them know that event doesn't work with SVE :c
but ya, maybe Halla's noclipmode suggestion would work o: (I've never tried that o: !)
fair vessel
yeah, NoClip mod
supple echo
gotcha. I can try that for the next birthday
royal arrow
err, in nexus it's Noclip Mode (just in case that helps)
supple echo
it's obviously planned to work with SVE because Andy gave me a gift!
fair vessel
I know it works to fix events where player gets stuck on things that aren't usually there. I'm not sure whether it works to fix if an NPC gets stuck 🤔
royal arrow
huh, then yea it might just be the map edit
supple echo
I think Leah and I might both have been stuck, but the scene didn't get stuck till I got stuck
shy orbit
i haven't seen an npc get stuck in an event, they just phase through walls usually
outer turret
Yeh NPCs can wall through stuff
Farmer however. ..
crisp salmon
Anyone know if there is a mod to allow you to un-till soil?
Accidentally hitting an extra spot and then not being able to put a path there annoys my sense of esthetics.
shy orbit
you can hit it with a pickaxe, it's native feature
daring wagon
just don't hit the ||ancient fruit|| plant right next to it....
flint panther
@modest estuary looks like the issue you reported earlier wrt recolored text hasn't been resolved yet. In all likelihood it's one of DaisyNiko's maps, such as Ultimate Farm, that's behind it; the "arrows" file in Assets intercepts just those letters.
We had the same issue in our MP game and ended up manually recoloring that file
snow kiln
Reposting my quick question from #town-square: Is there any other page besides Nexusmods where mods are aggregated? I know they are around for quite a while yet their praxis still seems rather exploitative to me (and not really useful on a linux machine)
robust bison
moddrop
supple echo
and unofficial updates for older XNB mods often appear in this one thread on the Chucklefish forums
snow kiln
Mhh, thanks for the suggestion. I don't want to install any "managment software" for game mods that collects data about me, might just skim through github and see if I can find any sources there.
Thanks a bunch tho!
supple echo
You don't have to install the Nexus software, though choosing "slow download" every time can get a little annoying 🙂
robust bison
most people choose not to use vortex anyways
supple echo
It's Windows-only and I'm on a Mac, so I don't use it anyway
robust bison
and you dont need to install moddrop to download mods
snow kiln
Haha, I realized that. It's just a pretty sucky dark design pattern.
and you dont need to install moddrop to download mods
@robust bison thanks, will have a look at that
robust bison
np
supple echo
BTW, there seems to be a problem with sites scraping mods and distributing them without permission so they can make ad revenue or whatever, so stick to Nexus, ModDrop, author GitHubs and the unofficial update thread.
snow kiln
Thanks. Will do that, preferably git. Will integrate easy in my day-to-day life anyway. 😄
I might be a bit to paranoid but heck - I really don't want to make another account somewhere.
supple echo
Can't say I blame you. 😄
restive zodiac
@supple echo I'd link to the wiki section for xnb > CP mods rather than the old forum thread https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher, since Stardew Valley has official forums now and a new version of that thread there :) the bulk of old xnb mods were just done a long time ago, so updates are much fewer
supple echo
oh, good point 🙂
restive zodiac
The individual mod links will still point there, but if any new ones get added one day they'll go to new place :)
supple echo
Most of the links to unofficial updates on the wiki page have taken me to that thread, you see. But the wiki is definitely going to be easier to read through 😄
restive zodiac
True enough on the readability, hehe
supple echo
I didn't quite put together that new updates would show up elsewhere though, so that's good to know 😄
daring wagon
Same! Yay 🙂
supple echo
@snow kiln so yeah, use the wiki page if checking for updated older mods instead 😄
fair vessel
@snow kiln ModDrop doesn't even need an account to download most stuff I don't think :)
dapper fulcrum
Lost all my mods on PC and idk if that's a sign to never play this game again, or if it means I ought to build a new modlist
royal arrow
did you do a reinstall, or did they just poof by themselves?
daring wagon
Lenne has a good modlist!!
royal arrow
Also, if you got your mods from nexus, you can check your download history o:
daring wagon
I just don't start playing until I've checked my download history these days. With 400 mods something has always been updated....
timber dragon
hellooo does anyone know how the mature events get triggered, dies it work on mobile?
royal arrow
do you mean on SVE?
timber dragon
yes lol
tight tusk
just edit the config to set the mature events to true, and yes it works on mobile
dire fractal
Pretty sure the SVE wiki has information for all the trigger conditions as well, if you mean in-game.
timber dragon
idk where to find the config, if it was on the sve file, it won't work.
royal arrow
it should be in the (Stardew Valley Expanded) folder, there should be a config.json
if not, you can check the other SVE-related folders for a config.json
royal arrow
yea if your phone doesn't have a text / json editor, you can install an app for it
Jonqora mentioned ES Explorer comes with one
I've tried out a couple different apps on Android and haven't found one I love just yet lol
supple echo
I haven't used it for json, but the app I got for text/markdown writing is QuickEdit Pro and I've been very happy with it. There's a free version too.
fast ruin
Anyone know any good live stock mods?
royal arrow
do you mean mods that add animals to the game, or mods that replace animals in the game, or mods that change the look of the existing animals, or...?
fast ruin
change the look
supple echo
Elle's!!
royal arrow
you can check out Elle's Old Barn Animals, Elle's New Barn Animals, Zhuria's animal mods, Qute Animals, CHONKINS (adorable chubby chickens), to name a few (all available on Nexus)
fast ruin
any that look more realistioc?
supple echo
oh my, the chonkins are super cute
royal arrow
yea I sort of go 
whenever I see them
same with the cows from Qute Animals
more realistic than Elle's o.o?
supple echo
Void Chonkins alone
royal arrow
have you browsed the Livestock & Animals category, SherbGoat111? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/categories/7/
Oh I almost forgot, K's mods (K's Goat replacer for one)
supple echo
K's mods remind me somehow of my internet friend who is a goat/sheep/cow scientist
I feel like if they played Stardew they would appreciate
is now looking at duck mods
royal arrow
oooh if you find a good one, let me know. I've just had vanilla ducks this whole time, but replaced literally every other animal LOL
supple echo
all… twelve duck mods 😕
royal arrow
I wonder if maybe some are included as part of a pack for another mod? Like Elle's Coop Animals or somethin
supple echo
maybe! I'm looking at Elle's mods again too, I might switch from new to old coop animals because the ducks look slightly duckier (i.e. less like the chickens)
I'm serious! I ended up setting the ducks to "MaleMallard" because the female mallard and solid color ducks were difficult for me to distinguish from chickens 😄
royal arrow
maybe I've come across those and that's why I was like "nvm I'll them vanilla" lol admittedly, I haven't gone looking for animal mods in ages
supple echo
the vanilla ducks also look like male mallards though 😆
royal arrow
ah well, that's what you get for wondering why the male of the species is laying eggs 
supple echo
haha
I've been known to give my ducks boy names. They're ducks, they don't care, and why think about it too hard 😄
outer turret
I love adopt and skin.
supple echo
I found a cute recolored duck a few days ago, but it's attached to an old dino mod and it's not super clear whether the CP update includes the duck
https://community.playstarbound.com/threads/biped-dinosaur-smaller-dino-egg-bonus-female-duck.110547/
royal arrow
I usually name them after characters in whatever show I'm watching at the time I get them, or even after people in the video I may be watching at the time I get them LOL
supple echo
Adopt and Skin is sort of a disturbing name to me, but I'm sure it works great 😄
royal arrow
definitely had "male" names for a lot of my cows 😆
supple echo
Yeah, most of the farm animals on my first farm were named after Steven Universe characters
royal arrow
sometimes I'll also go for the classics and name them after Looney Tunes characters, or other cartoon characters
supple echo
I still have a tendency to name the void chicken "Lapis" 🙂
royal arrow
(for some reason I'm reminded of the time I was watching a political debate and I definitely named most of my cows and goats after the candidates 
but also 
)
supple echo
though maybe I should hold out for a blue chicken one of these days
royal arrow
I didn't even know about the blue chickens until fairly recently when I took an interest in Shane lol
supple echo
I don't think I spent a lot of time with Shane on that first farm. 🙂
I'd heard of blue chickens, but once I realized how long it was going to be before I could get them I didn't bother saving names
dire fractal
Good evening. Might anyone know which or what kind of mod could be causing people to get trapped in JojaMart? When I go there, they're nowhere to be seen nor are they where they're supposed to be according to their normal schedule. I've installed so many mods recently and tried to remove the ones I thought might be the problem but I couldn't find the answer so far.
royal arrow
for it me it was more of a "whaat o:" because up until that point, I had an even distribution going of the white and brown chickens (idk why, the OCD-like tendencies kick in and I was trying to have even distributions of all the different animal varieties in the coop and barn)
@dire fractal ah I've had this issue as well but not been able to solve it! Can you provide your log?
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
I'd be happy to, allow me a minute if you would
supple echo
"Trapped in JojaMart" sounds like a Halloween slight-horror expansion waiting to happen… 😉
dire fractal
There you go! https://smapi.io/log/47bc09730c6c4dde9d1e7519fc8afbb2
restive zodiac
(That can be caused by a few things, but you could try installing this pack https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678284714829807636/682250629988483082/CP_Vanilla_Map_Overrides2.zip and renaming it to start with a z to see if that fixes it, then we could help with a more proper fix if it does. If you want, of course.)
dire fractal
It's a shane this is happening, I want to marry Shane on this new run
"I'll figure out why the animated dwarf scrolls aren't animating after day rollover and I can save."
-> Sleep
-> Scroll on table mysteriously starts animating after sleep. No other CP-A animations behaving this way.
-> Headache
royal arrow
mana if you provide your log, we may be able to help out with that, although if you use Medieval Craftables, that might be causing it (has to do with the reloading of the tilesheets, space is working on an update to CP-A to fix that)
dire fractal
Will do mouse! Thank you for the tip, I appreciate it. So far I'm not sure when it actually happens, there are nights I see people are at the saloon and there are nights they are not... so far I've seen it happening on Mondays and Fridays :(
royal arrow
wait it happens in the saloon too? o: I've only had it happen in the JojaMart. Also for me it's not reproducible, it'll randomly happen one day, and be fine the next. and even reloading the save sometimes fixes it (but then I lose the progress) 
supple echo
is still imagining Morris holding NPCs hostage in JojaMart
dire fractal
Oh sorry I meant it happens at Jojamart and I only realize it's happening at night by visiting the saloon
restive zodiac
If it's the Double Doors of Dread cause specifically, what happens is that they decide they are going to go through the right door and take the route through the left door to get there, which warps them into the store and then they are very confused and just walk forever and ever after that and never make it home or the saloon... then the game poofs them into their spawn point in the morning 😅
supple echo
Shane and Pam are almost always in the saloon at night aren't they? So if they're still in JojaMart at saloon time that signals something wrong 🙂
pallid zealot
guys
i downloaded smapi
but i need a little help
so i pasted the code thing inot the text box in steam
into
so i should have it like the instructions say
how do i download mods now
royal arrow
maximusham14, have you checked out the getting started guide? it walks you through the whole process, and includes a list of different sites you can get mods from https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
pallid zealot
ok
supple echo
With a web browser. 😉 Generally you download mods you want and put them in your Mods folder
dire fractal
If it's the Double Doors of Dread cause specifically, what happens is that they decide they are going to go through the right door and take the route through the left door to get there, which warps them into the store and then they are very confused and just walk forever and ever after that and never make it home or the saloon... then the game poofs them into their spawn point in the morning 😅
lmao that sounds sadly funny
There is no way to actually know what the problem might be then? :( I feel like it's been happening at random so far
restive zodiac
Yeah the problematic route looks like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/588082457128075309/unknown.png
royal arrow
by the by, mouse, since installing the map override file you've sent, I've not noticed the issue, but I've also been playing less, and when I do, I haven't been looking for the people who usually go in there but so far so good
dire fractal
Damn NPC routes
restive zodiac
That particular cause is easily fixed - or, well, nudged so that it doesn't happen again, but NPC pathing is a little scary
It's not the only possible cause, but for that particular location it is the most likely
dire fractal
I will install it now and I can provide a feedback whether or not it happens on the next few days in the game. I am after all pretty addicted to the game, hehe
LenneDalben the logs say nooothing about it. I was mostly mocking myself for staring at the scroll for the first game hour - I was so sure it was just a simple config/content json issue. ;_;
restive zodiac
There's no one mod that would be at fault for that particular cause either, anything that can nudge the pathing a bit might have them go through that door (AFAIK). Map mods can make it not happen by just putting a dirt tile under the left door (NPCs prefer not to get their feet dirty if avoidable :P ) and the override pack straight up removes one of them just to rule it out hehe
royal arrow
mana I was asking about your log so I could see your mod list, I have had similar issues with animated junimo scarecrows, logs said nothing then either lol
dire fractal
Pardon me for asking but just to make sure I'm doing this right, this is how it should look like in my Mods folder, right?
royal arrow
no need to apologize, and yes that is correct! 
dire fractal
Thank you very much for all of your help, you guys! I really appreciate it 😃
royal arrow
you're welcome!
raven crane
Can somepne help me out?
dire fractal
LenneDalben aha, fair enough. https://smapi.io/log/0cdce084f3e042a6984e9ca7c5fd9323 is even less interesting since it's just a launch/shutdown, but modlist.
raven crane
I have all mods set up
But, it's showing me that I need an update for the overgrown buildings one, but I have the latest version installed
My terminal
royal arrow
hi tati, if you have the latest version installed, then it's likely that the manifest.json file just has an outdated version #. You can manually update the version number yourself if you like by opening the manifest.json file in any text editor (Notepad or something similar) and changing the version number to the one SMAPI mentions in the purple text in the console
raven crane
welp that's not terrifying at all
royal arrow
in this case the message is harmless, if a little annoying
raven crane
lemme try that
royal arrow
mana, you don't have Gwen's Medieval Craftables, I wonder if it's a conflict with another one of your mods is it working fine all the time now though, or is it still only sometimes working?
raven crane
It's saying the same thing :[
dire fractal
So far working all the time. I've found only scroll 2, but now all scrolls are animating in all locations. Testing some theories.
raven crane
The numbers match up too
royal arrow
To share my tale of woe, I realized that if I opened my crafting menu while in my farmhouse before stepping outside, I could see the little animated junimo scarecrow doing its thing. But when I stepped outside, it stopped animating
it was because Medieval Craftables was reloading the tilesheet when I went outside, and for some reason that interfered with the CP-A stuff
tight tusk
re: jojamart pathing problems, huhu i've been experiencing it too even with vanilla maps. will try mouse's patch and hopefully it works
royal arrow
@raven crane did you reload the game?
royal arrow
the original message said version 1.0.1, in your screenshot here you wrote 1.0.0
dire fractal
In this case you could even ignore the message tati - it's a warning that there are updates available which can be useful if you have issues because something is outdated, but it'll still load things as long as SMAPI doesn't consider it broken I think.
royal arrow
Yep!
likely the mod author just forgot to update it in the manifest.json, and only updated it on nexus 😅
royal arrow
one way to confirm it for yourself is that the date you downloaded it is after the last upload date on nexus
you're welcome!
supple echo
I have a couple dialogue mods that haven't been updated in like two years (and I only got Stardew a couple of months ago!), but I still get that "update available" error. Maybe I'll fix it manually sometime, maybe I won't bother.
royal arrow
lol yea it's harmless but some cough me not only sat there and updated all version #'s manually, but also added update keys to most of the mods missing them
(there's a reason I spend more time modding and tweaking mods than playing the game)
restive zodiac
That's good to not condition yourself into ignoring update checks :P
raven crane
I'm so confused, the mods still doesn't show up as fairy mods in the game though :[ even though everything downloaded correctly
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
raven crane
royal arrow
there's instructions on the link in the governor message about how to upload it
I also recommend loading your save, then quitting, then getting the log
dire fractal
holly molly my game just crashed, was it something I did wrong or a mod that could've crashed it?
the log was repeatly scrolling this down nonstop
restive zodiac
It looks like that mod only adds a few buildings and is made to match another building set - is it possible you were expecting it to change all of them?
raven crane
I think that's correct?
royal arrow
yea what mouse said, More Overgrown Fairy Buildings is like an add-on for the overgrown fairy building mod, lemme get you the link
Here you go, tati https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4564
restive zodiac
Mostly see errors from space's mods, could you post the whole log at https://smapi.io/log ? (@ Excasr)
royal arrow
(also the shipping bin if you want https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3833)
dire fractal
Yes! I'm sorry for troubling you. Will do
raven crane
you guys ❤️
royal arrow
that was the first building mod I installed, I love it 
restive zodiac
I think my first one was the hobbit house XNB override ...
royal arrow
you're welcome!
dire fractal
This one seems to be very long lol https://smapi.io/log/fdd410b076574d29a78ebcf117d0080c I'm about to cleanup some old mods from that folder... does keeping the zip files weigh it down or something? I had always left it there mostly because I'm lazy...
vital spade
Is there a console command to skip a cutscene? I'm stuck in a cutscene of a custom NPC and the dialogue option is bugging out.
dire fractal
just more info: I got into Robin's house, possibly triggering an event. The "loading" left-bottom corner thingy showed up and I was confused since that had never happened before. Then I checked the log and it was spamming errors lol I closed the game in despair
royal arrow
I think there is a command to end them? you'd have to check the wiki page on debug commands though, search by event
dire fractal
LenneDalben bonus fun: nuking the config to let it rebuild the file (thought maybe I had a stray weird glyph in there) or disabling the mod and re-enabling has no effect, characters where the scrolls are animating they keep animating (except when disabled), but for each new character I test they're static sprites until sleeping.
royal arrow
that's interesting. anything on the mod description about it o: ?
dire fractal
feels like something has to be cached somewhere for these specific animations that happens when (or near) the save code runs, but also no other CP-A animations have the same req. O_o
Doesn't look like it. No other posts about it.
I should stop being upset it's working and go about my farm life.
royal arrow
lol you can leave a comment on the mod page, since it doesn't seem to happen with other CP-A mods? who knows, the mod author might be able to clarify what's going on o:
dire fractal
It's not just the scrolls. It's anything from maps/springobjects. Tilesheets/furniture all works fine.
vital spade
@dire fractal that is a common bug with CP-A. If you have mods that change a tilesheet with certain CP tokens CP-A will revert to static
vital spade
it only happens when the dynamic CP token changes
dire fractal
which must get updated 'overnight' when it runs <name of thing I forget but was in the log>
?
vital spade
It depends on the tokens, but probably yes
dire fractal
interesting
vital spade
most common token that breaks it is the "IsOutdoors"
royal arrow
mana if you want, I can send you the unofficial update to CP-A space shared, and see if that helps
dire fractal
double interesting
dire fractal
Sure, that'd be fun
dire fractal
thanks!
royal arrow
(now I know though, search by "region" and I'll get there faster lol)
@daring wagon
Joja Always Has Seeds is out! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6560
vital spade
Every season is Joja-season! 
royal arrow
it definitely feels like that should be an evil jingle lol
timber dragon
@royal arrow thank you again 
restive zodiac
(I appreciate mods like this and lore friendly joja prices that make it more of an actual choice to not shop at joja :P )
royal arrow
yea I keep going back and forth on installing Lore Friendly Joja Prices as well, just to add the temptation that should be there lol
restive zodiac
(Somehow "this is the morally correct route that just coincidentally happens to be the most profitable and convenient" has never spoken to me 😄 )
royal arrow
yea and considering everyone in-game talks about them having all da-stock and the lowest prices, idk why it is that they don't o:
restive zodiac
I'm kind of interested in a Long Term Consequences mod that makes joja the short term no brainer but long term...
but I feel like most people would hate it and also that most people wouldn't play that long
royal arrow
yea it depends on how long it would be before you are able to see those consequences and also, what would they be o: ?
lost friendship points is a somewhat obvious one, but idk what else o.o
magic gale
Hello! I'm almost completed the main game (quests, heart events, family etc) and was wondering what you guys think of that big extension mod? Does it provide enough new content to be worth a new playthrough? Are there other mods that add new story content? (Sorry to derail)
royal arrow
no worries, we're used to multiple conversations at the same time! I assume you're referring to Stardew Valley Expanded. I think consensus is that it's definitely worth a new playthrough, best enjoyed on a new one actually. It adds lots of new content
restive zodiac
I think it's better as a new playthrough because you'll miss stuff tied to early content otherwise, but it's possible to play it on an existing save. I'm not really familiar with all the ins and outs of what it adds, but there are other NPC mods you can add too that have varying degrees of complexity and compatibility
royal arrow
There are other mods as well that add to characters, like Immersive Characters - Shane, the Ranch Expansion (Jas and Marnie), Life Cycle, and Rival Heart Events
split nacelle
i actually just started a new playthrough with that mod, i'm enjoying it so far!
restive zodiac
+1 on the first two at least, I like the other two in concept but haven't actually tried them yet (I just want rival events period, even if I'd like them to work differently)
(I'm a pretty lazy player and a bad farmer so I'd like more mods that make more things happen without my intervention :D )
magic gale
Is there one that let's me marry everyone, cause I love them all #poly
royal arrow
Yea the only one I haven't tried seen yet is Life Cycle, but I have it in my most current playthrough. I like the idea of the rival heart events, but they don't feel like they have very lasting impact
restive zodiac
There is!
royal arrow
there absolutely is, Multiple Spouses!
restive zodiac
(The author is really churning out mods, so you should check out some of their other stuff as well)
magic gale
Oohh I will definitely try that I heard there were some that let you marry a couple select ppl, but I didnt see that one
royal arrow
Oh, I also like Mal's Sebastian Expansion, although I did tweak 1 event for my own use because the tone it took wasn't to my liking, overall it's great!
outer turret
I just load in everything
I dont know where anything comes from anymore...
And one of my own events is so hard to trigger I cant do it even knowing all the conditons!
split nacelle
i was thinking about doing that but im scared to get to your situation lol, so far just got Canon Friendly Dialogue Explansion + SVE
tired apex
popping in to ask about the friendzone mod and what its name is
restive zodiac
I had an idea for a small but very flexible event mod awhile back, but it felt kind of art and ambience focused, which surprise, I also suck at
supple echo
one of my first mods installed was the canon-compliant dialogue expansion, but now I'm starting to have enough character-expanding mods installed that I'm thinking about removing it to make sure I see all the new stuff
restive zodiac
Maybe I will write it out and doodle little stick people and see how long it takes to abandon
supple echo
stick people! 
restive zodiac
I can say they are related to the straws (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2022)
supple echo
is there a friendzone mod? I know about Platonic Relationships, but aside from letting everyone's friendship go to ten I've never noticed it doing much.
royal arrow
I guess you could always put it on the mod idea github with your progress, and someone might pick it up?
supple echo
stick people and straw people? now you just need brick people and you can stop the big bad wolf 😉
royal arrow
well the intent for Platonic Relationships was to be able to befriend everyone to their max heart level without dating them, so it's doing what it set out to do lol
fair vessel
@supple echo overlap between dialogue mods is usually minimal. If you're worried about seeing the stuff from a new mod, you can add a dependency in the new mod's manifest to list Canon Friendly Dialogue mod. Then Canon-Friendly will load first and won't overwrite any dialogue from the other mod.
restive zodiac
haha
supple echo
good to know! I haven't had noticeable issues thus far, but it's late in the alphabet so I worry 🙂
…haha, glad to be of help 😄
magic gale
I have maybe half a dozen mods, but they're all game play (no fishing game auto crates, ui, and a big cheat menu that I mostly use for fast travel) so maybe in some later files I will try all those little character ones
supple echo
@royal arrow fair enough! And it's nice to be able to do that. It'd be kind of neat to have, I dunno, non-romantic 10-heart events or something, but I've still got the mod installed so I shouldn't grumble 😉
royal arrow
I was discussing Platonic Relationships with Cherry earlier and I mentioned my only worry is that the checks 29 dialog expansion mods I have may make villagers flirt with me and tell me they love me when we're just friends 
supple echo
I think I started with character and some of the smaller visual mods (well, and scythe harvest and the tractor because I was on Y3 vanilla on my first farm at the time), but hoo boy have I expanded since then
dire fractal
Gervig91 and LenneDalben that file did indeed just make everything start working consistently. Thanks again. 🙂
royal arrow
so my new personal project is going back and editing those 29 mods for my own use to change the dialog checks from hearts to "dating" status lol
supple echo
That's an understandable concern!
royal arrow
Cherry had mentioned someone had also provided her some event rewrites, so the events are platonic as well, but Cherry hasn't looked at implementing those just yet. Event coding is hard
supple echo
Fair. Dialogue seems like it'd probably be easier to check dating/not dating and respond accordingly
royal arrow
yea it's a fairly simple When check, which may be tedious to add to bigger dialog expansion mods, but not difficult. I look at the code for an event and I'm like 
but ONE DAY I will learn lol
supple echo
Sometimes I think about learning to mod, too 🙂
royal arrow
yes, join the cheeto "modder" gang, it's fun! lol
supple echo
hehe
I don't know any C#
But I could probably write a dialogue mod for CP if I put my mind to it
I'm not sure what I'd do though…
royal arrow
yea same, I started a C# tutorial and haven't gotten far, but there's lots you can do with the existing frameworks
people also post mod ideas here https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas
supple echo
yup! I put one in there a few days back for lockable signs a la lockable crab pots, hold down a key before it'll let you change the sign
restive zodiac
I don't know any C# either throws arms out welcomingly
tired apex
I can happily let you guys meet my dad who programs for a living
restive zodiac
I know a lot of programmers, I've just been studiously avoiding learning C# 😄
pastel arch
Man, who would want to program for a living
supple echo
hehe, so does my new datemate (though not in C# I don't think…)
pastel arch
royal arrow
(I take it Cat is secretly employed as a programmer )
tired apex
wELL
restive zodiac
Cat was demoted for shitposting
supple echo
it's apparently pretty good money but stressful
tired apex
It's a lot of
"WHY ARENT YOU DOING THE THING YOURE SUPPOSED TO"
When you're missing a single period
royal arrow
Cat is funny, I feel there's a difference 😆
tired apex
Or bracket
restive zodiac
There's a lot of that even just in content modding here :)
tired apex
But I do like listening to the clicking of his keyboard
restive zodiac
(jsons are just fancy text files, but they still want quotes and curly hugs to be properly placed)
supple echo
yeah, I briefly fucked up one of my json files with an extra quote and bracket by mistake
royal arrow
oh today I had a struggle because I was missing a square bracket but instead the message was "listen you need a comma at the end of your last curly bracket" and I'm sitting there going "no I'm not, that's a trailing comma, y u tryna trick meee"
tired apex
The program: you need this
Us: >:(
restive zodiac
Yeah, it's mainly just telling you where it ran into the problem and what wasn't as expected based on what went before, but it doesn't always know the cause that was further up 😅
tired apex
I'm half dissapointed I cant use my reaction memes here but on the other hand I get to use them in text form instead
supple echo
(Regarding events, I just discovered SVE Krobus has a junimo friend and it is the most adorable thing ever)
tired apex
AH a baby
supple echo
I love Krobus a lot
restive zodiac
It's been awhile since I last updated the MP mod list and now I feel like there are so many things I need to re-evaluate and possibly add ... and edit... taps fingers together
royal arrow
(it was almost halfway up the file though, mouse I'm used to being only a couple lines above lol)
Another Jump Mod
restive zodiac
I love Krobus so much that I'm nervous about downloading any mods that feature him in them at all, haha
"I don't know how I feel about your version of Krobus and need alone time to ponder it"
supple echo
I have several of the Haywrites "narrative overhaul" mods installed, but I left out the Krobus one… apparently you have to teach him English in it or something and while that's sweet, I like being able to talk to Krobus right away
because he is A Good
royal arrow
I've had the haywrites overhauls installed for ages but I can't recall this, admittedly it's been a while since I've chatted up Krobus. Is it that at low hearts, he's silent, or speaks in a language you don't understand?
restive zodiac
Yeah, my idea of Krobus is of someone that's been on the borders of things for a long time and observing people, so I like that he can talk to you in your own language even if you headcanoned that shadow people in general spoke something else.
supple echo
@royal arrow I'm actually not sure. I changed my mind about trying it out before I got into the sewers.
My impression from the description was "he speaks a different language"
restive zodiac
(That's another thing, it would take me so long to get to the sewers unmodded that I would already barely ever meet Krobus naturally in SP 
)
supple echo
but I'm still looking for my fourth Dwarf scroll, so… :p
royal arrow
Lol ya and then I forget to keep swinging by to see him even after I meet him, so idk if he even has heart events I know, I'm a monster 😔
supple echo
I'm not sure either 😦 I hope he does
This one had the feel of one of the SVE added events, though
"Hmm, maybe I should go check on Character X later" isn't really a thing in vanilla
severe oak
I'm trying to run different "mod groups" per the instructions here (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F) on linux, but I keep running into an error (here's my code & the error message: https://pastebin.com/Lt2vBwUZ)
Can anyone offer any insight on what's going on here?
outer turret
The Krobus bit was sweet but I didnt particularly like how they handled Dwarf.
outer turret
Also if you marry Jasper he will give you the dwarf scrolls. Cos I ain't got forever to get that gold one.
tired apex
Apparently krobus has a 14 heart event and that's it in vanilla
supple echo
this is an offense to adorable shadow people everywhere!
severe oak
@tired apex In the .sh file, or somewhere else?
Also kinda shocked someone else had what I thought was an obscure linus issue
*Linux
royal arrow
Must add! But I don't have specifics :c https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas
tired apex
In your code yes, I'm running linux as well
supple echo
I found Krobus standing way off in front of the adventurer's guild last Spirit's Eve (SVE, again) and he was all sad and worried about his "friends" the shadow brutes in Marlon's cage's and what would happen to them after the festival 😢
royal arrow
Hmm, maybe a confrontation between Krobus and Marlon could be one o: and the farmer can either support Krobus or BE A TERRIBLE PERSON about it (cuz ya gotta have options). I guess there could also be a middle ground noncommital response
supple echo
yeah! Marlon is helping Krobus hide in the sewers in SVE, but it seems there's still something of a values split
if only in extrapolation
royal arrow
Hmm, but it might still be a good event even without SVE (I don't use it, for example)
supple echo
it would be an interesting character arc if Krobus grew to, say, be an open ambassador between shadow people and humans or something, and got the farmer to help him
royal arrow
Also maybe something can be done with his fascination with void eggs and mayo o: I wonder if there's a way to check if you've hatched one...
tired apex
He hongr
supple echo
The wizard also obviously knows about Krobus and is okay with him. It's probably SVE/my dialogue expansions, but in my Stardew Linus also does and I think that tracks nicely
royal arrow
Hmm, event with Lewis too then o: (I'm collecting thoughts for this mod idea entry)
severe oak
Wow that mod ideas github is cool
restive zodiac
Not strictly Krobus but still cute https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4630
(On the Linux mod groups, you can also just do ./StardewValley --mods-path 'Mods2' from inside the game folder, or the full path instead of ./StardewValley if outside the folder)
supple echo
ah! I love Festival of the Mundane!
(I also love that the disguises are sold by "the rodent of unusual cuteness," aka Hat Mouse)
(It is an apt description! 
)
restive zodiac
It's my favorite line, too 😄
supple echo
One of these days I'll hold out and ask Krobus to be my roommate 🙂 I hear his room is just like the sewer, though. He deserves a nicer one, perhaps a nice cave motif
royal arrow
I submitted the ideas for the Krobus events
Glowbug, you could submit one for the alternate Krobus room o:
gentle nest
If my game crashes, due to mods, do I post in here or in the game support channel?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
gentle nest
Already got it :c
It crashed when I tried to put custom wallpaper in my storage unit :c
supple echo
Hmm. It looks like your "Rustic Country Walls and Floors" mod might have an update, so that's a good place to start
supple echo
hmm, okay.
gentle nest
yeah idk :c
supple echo
This one's a little out of my depth, I think. Any of the old hands still up to look?
gentle nest
;-;
lapis void
@gentle nest when you say your storage unit, do you mean a shed or a cabin you're using for storage? i know CWF has issues with cabins in multiplayer
the error isn't with the pack, it's an issue with pytk/CWF
gentle nest
Oh I'm sorry, it's a shed
I haven't encountered an issue with the cabin aside from the main flooring disappearing occasionally
lapis void
there might also be an issue with sheds then--i would report it to Routine on the CWF mod page https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3010?tab=bugs
i see that someone had an issue with custom walls being applied to all sheds when put in one shed and that it was fixed, it's possible the fix could have borked something in the logic for sheds
from what routine has said it looks like it's best to hold off on putting custom walls/floors in sheds or cabins until he looks at it further
gentle nest
oh nooo :c
lapis void
so if you've got custom walls stuck in any of your buildings, you can use that reset_walls command in the console window
but yeah it was last updated back in february, the dev is active so hopefully it's on his agenda
gentle nest
okay I'll wait for an update then rip :c
thank you for looking into it for me though, both of you <3
lapis void
from my experience in multiplayer it's not reliable anywhere but the farmhouse, but seems to work okay there!
gentle nest
yeah the farmhouse is fine, haven't put anything in the cabins yet that i remember, but wanted to spiff up the sheds and boom :c
supple echo
Aww, that's too bad. At least you know what the problem is though!
fervent minnow
(Quick screen recorder software recommendations anyone?)
pastel arch
robust bison
obs
calm niche
Does anyone know of any mods that make it so you have to herd your animals into there coop at night?
I own ducks irl and have to put them away at night, was just wondering if there was a mod that let you do that
outer turret
In regards to Krobus. Does anyone else want a bromance (I know Dwarf isnt necessarily male, it's a turn of phrase) between Krobus and Dwarf?
supple echo
A cross-cultural friendship in spite of their people's history might be fun 🙂
@calm niche I don't know of any offhand, and adding extra tasks to animal care sounds kind of the opposite of what most animal mods do, but it's a neat idea! 🙂 You could manually open and close the coop/barn doors every day, I suppose…
dire fractal
Didn't some of the old harvest moon games have a bell you could ring (or something) that would get the animals to all path back into their barns if the door was open?
robust bison
yeah
fair vessel
That couldn't be too hard for a smapi mod to do, could it? Eliminate the auto timed return to coop/barn, and make animals only return if you ring a bell item or something.
Otherwise they'd stay out all night (as if the door was closed) and could be attacked
dire fractal
Was just going to ask how hard that would be to solve in stardew but now harvest moon music is in my head and won't leave.
supple echo
sounds like a good one for mod suggestions then :D
https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas
fervent minnow
Is it possible through Custom Music to mute SDV default soundtrack and play only the replacements?
limpid herald
please send help, SVE won't work
it was working before i updated everything, now with all the newest versions of the different mods that is needed to run SVE installed, it's just not working
supple echo
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
limpid herald
i think i found what went wrong
it's missing mods that is not on the requirement list
rain lava
yup
limpid herald
i just can't seem to find the mods the log is referring to
dire fractal
I believe they come as part of the SVE install pack
https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Install-guide shows them after the unpack and move all SVE pieces step
rain lava
mana is right. You must've missed them when pasting into Mods folder
After unpacking donloaded file make sure you copy/move all the folders into Mods
supple echo
You're also missing Custom Music and Custom NPC Fixes, I think
rain lava
They are also included in SVE
dire fractal
wait, I thought those were the ones we were talking about
limpid herald
i think i know what went wrong
i used Vortex to install it with, just remembered that i should NOT do that with SVE
sharp belfry
vortex is not recommended for stardew in general
supple echo
Ah, you're right, I forgot those two were in the bundle
As opposed to on the requirements list for separate install
limpid herald
yeah. i completely forgot that you shouldn't use Vortex for SV mods
sharp belfry
(unless you really know what you're doing but it's very easy for a beginner to mess something up when using vortex)
supple echo
Rather defeats the point of a mod manager no? ;)
sharp belfry
I still use vortex instead of manual modding cause it can be helpful but to do that you have to be aware of the ways it can mess up and consciously avoid them.
dire fractal
It's great for skyrim mods. But skyrim mods require a bunch of complex functionality to manage in any sane capacity.
sharp belfry
dear god, bethesda modding is a nightmare
dire fractal
bethesda {modding,code,decisions,ability to draw rocks on the ground without them floating,...}
sharp belfry
I used to do it a lot, then got spoiled by how easy and relatively bug-free it's in stardew, and now I tried to go back and almost had an aneurysm xD
molten rivet
What does vortex download do?
dire fractal
Vortex is a mod manager. Nexus (and maybe others?) can trigger the vortex application if you want to pull the file down directly into it instead of just downloading the archive.
Assuming we're talking about a button on a website or something.
Hello guys, I play Stardew Expanded and my friend will get married with Victor
but on the day Game Crash
help me pls
Is this a multiplayer game and your friend is not the host?
yes she is a join people
That's currently broken per FlashShifter - https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/FAQs#does-sve-work-in-multiplayer . Farmhands can't marry custom NPCs or it crashes things.
oh
Is there a way to cancel the wedding?
I... don't know. I don't think so but I'm kinda guessing. Anyone else around?
okay thanks
supple echo
Maybe the multiplayer host could go into the save backups that SMAPI does and roll everyone back to before the proposal? A bit annoying for all of you, but at least the engagement never happens
dire fractal
how far back does smapi hold onto by default?
supple echo
I don't know if wilted bouquets work once you're engaged... oh, hmm, I am not sure how far the backups go. I've never had to back up more than one day myself. But an engagement is still only three days...
dire fractal
right
it's a good idea if it's got that coverage. three days is a lot faster than starting over >_>
prime condor
Hey guys, does anyone know if the expanded mod works in multiplayer?
dire fractal
It says it does with some caveats. Link is about 10-12 messages up.
prime condor
Coolio
dire fractal
https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/FAQs#does-sve-work-in-multiplayer or still in my paste buffer apparently XD
prime condor
supple echo
...that is an extremely creepy thumbs up
prime condor
royal arrow
(@sharp belfry just use Mod Organizer or MO2 for Bethesda games. Obviously can't guarantee it'll be stable, but at least the mods are in a nice virtual folder, away from game files, and you get a lot more control in how to resolve mod conflicts. I don't think Vortex has this ability but I think they both offer mod profiles? If not, that's another reason to choose MO or MO2 
)
sharp belfry
actually vortex also does mod profiles. but anyway I figured out I don't want to deal with the shit that's required to have a whole lot of fnv mods (all that merging etc...). I'm staying with my anarchist farmer simulator xD
royal arrow
I hear you lol I followed Gopher and GamerPoet videos to get to the stage I did with my Bethesda modding, but even then, I am too ambitious with my load order and the game can crash at any minute, really.
Meanwhile the most I get with SDV is a bit of lag or stutter every once in a while, but no "could happen any time now" crashes. Although, maybe I should look at tweaking my Automate settings and see if that improves performance
molten rivet
With adopt n skin it says you can find wild horses, would you need a stable? And I have elles horse replacement mod, and chose Marwari, would only Marwari horses come?
And does adopt n skin work with SV Expanded
shy orbit
i use adopt'n'skin with SVE and don't know of any significant problems
the wild horses didn't seem to work correctly for me, they never appeared on the farm for instance. but i don't have reasons to suspect it was because of SVE
i don't even know how the wild horses are supposed to work though
fair vessel
@dire fractal SMAPI automatically keeps 10 IRL days of save backups. They'll be zipped folders inside the save-backups folder.
BUT there is also another option. With the help of some debug commands, someone found this workaround that can let you avoid the crash and your friend stay married to Victor: https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValleyExpanded/comments/hsmq6k/farmhand_custom_npc_marriage_workaround/
dire fractal
whoa, nice find
fair vessel
Yeah, I was really surprised when I found this! It's not a very well-known fix
I wonder if it could someday help modders to create a patch for the bug
torn mason
sounds like it's the marriage event specifically that crashes, not anything else related to marriage, so maybe a mod that skips the marriage event for farmhands...
( as an easy workaround. otherwise, probably find what's crashing in the marriage event and patch that )
heavy sail
I use Elle's Seasonal Buildings, and for some reason the coops are now using their default textures?
And Sebastian's bike just disappeared.
sharp belfry
the coops have switched to the default textures for me too but I was using medieval buildings. I think some newly installed mod may be loading later and overwriting them but I'm not sure which one that may be
fair vessel
I dunno about Sebastian's bike - it might be an outdated CP mod that doesn't have 1.4 content
For the coops though, are you using Animals Need Water mod?
fair vessel
I think it has a config option to disable changing coop textures
sharp belfry
yeah I just changed it, thank u :3
heavy sail
So do I, thanks!
fair vessel
(It changes the textures by actually pointing the game to load a completely different asset, so even changing load order will not fix it overriding cp mods)
@heavy sail if you upload a log we may be able to figure out what made the bike disappear
heavy sail
Ok, hold on a sec.
sharp belfry
btw @heavy sail holy shit, how many stardrops have you eaten
heavy sail
Uh, I forgot, like over 50(?)
sharp belfry
o.o
fair vessel
oh my lord you have so many CP mods 
lol
Any idea which ones were installed recently to give some clues? lol
dire fractal
Error loading "Content\Portraits\Nagito.xnb". File not found.
Multiple copies of yet another jump mod, missing Quest Framework O_o
The log, it's angry!
rain lava
Maybe try patch summary to see what mod changes outdoorsTilesheet last?
heavy sail
@rain lava I'll try that.
@fair vessel I know I have many CP mods, but that issue has been going for a while now.
@dire fractal Yeah, I'll need to fix those too.
fair vessel
Okay, I found out what tilesheet it's on. Lemme see which mods edit that sheet
restive zodiac
If it's helpful at all, this is most often caused not by an edit to that sheet but by the farm map reordering the tilesheets by not prefixing new ones
(It could be someone screwing up those tiles too of course, but the ordering thing is a real goose chase the first time!)
dire fractal
An unnamed goose chase?
sharp belfry
you laugh but I got a goose mod specifically to name one Honk
dire fractal
It should add incidental/sting audio of a bell dinging and getting further away
daring wagon
@royal arrow slams the download button
heavy sail
On an unrelated note, I need help choosing a Unique ID for a mod I'm working on.
My ideas were:
ExnoticTest.HighOnDrugs
ExnoticTest.PillsMod
ExnoticTest.JA.WorkBoosters
ExnoticTest.SDVPills
ExnoticTest.PillsModJA
Don't ask about the first one. Don't @ me. ;-;
fair vessel
Looks like it's indeed a tilesheet order issue 
None of the mods that change seasonal outdoorsTilesheet overwrite the motorcycle
@heavy sail what are you thinking to use for the name of your mod? I personally like to make sure the uniqueID is always close to the name to minimize confusion
heavy sail
This is the name I put in the manifest:
"Name": "Exnotic's Work Pills - JSON Assets",
Then I would go with ExnoticTest.JA.WorkPills
heavy sail
@fair vessel What should I do about the tilesheet order issue?
sharp belfry
oh my lord you have so many CP mods
@fair vessel if you want I can send my setup here so you can see even more 🤣
fair vessel
I dunno. I'm not familiar enough with map stuff. @restive zodiac?
Haha sure, post a log with your modlist Jani, I would like to see this impressive collection!
(I haveta keep my own main list tight for testing purposes)
dire fractal
Mod Pam
left glen
I-
sharp belfry
restive zodiac
You would need to edit the map in Tiled and rename the tilesheets that aren't paths or the outdoors tilesheets to start with z (or whatever as long as they don't come before outdoors sheets). I'm on mobile and can't open maps right now, but I could check it out in an hour or so if still needed
dire fractal
Pam
torn mason
what farm map is the one that's having issues? reporting it to the mod maker is also a good idea while you make your own workaround in the meantime
sharp belfry
I have and I hate it
heavy sail
@dire fractal I literally got a mod for an eggplant horse, but that's just weird.
@restive zodiac Hmm, not that experienced with Tiled, but I'll see what I can do.
fair vessel
eggplant... horse?
restive zodiac
I love eggplant horse
fair vessel
Hahaha wow
mod #100, the good ol days of stardew modding I guess 🤣
rain lava
can't decide if that horse is genius or cursed idea
dire fractal
IRL version: https://blog.japanesecreations.com/hubfs/obon11.jpg (image is completely sfw I'm just not willing to fight discord's embedder right now and the image is big)
fair vessel
It's actually pretty cute? 
heavy sail
@torn mason I don't have any farm maps, if you mean like for example "Ultimate Farm" or something like that.
restive zodiac
Pethouse is the only one I see
heavy sail
I've had Pethouse for a while, no issues there. It just started up out of nowhere.
restive zodiac
If your only farm map is not the problem then it seems less likely that it's a tilesheet ordering issue on a farm map :P
heavy sail
I could try removing it, I may not be right about that.
dawn saffron
... Are there mods that saves and loads games in the middle of a day? Vanilla game only saves when you sleep, which can be troublesome when your game crashes after half-an-in-game-day of progress. And yes, it crashes relatively often, which is not something that you can just ignore it and deal with it when it happens...
sharp belfry
so here's my monster of a modlist if anyone besides @fair vessel was curious https://smapi.io/log/5e900e48d21940fd89bab13f5da23d27
dire fractal
You have an NRE in polish
torn mason
There is a Save Anywhere mod
heavy sail
||ᵒʰ ʸᵉᵃʰ, ᵃⁿᵈ ᵐʸ ᶠʳⁱᵉⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵒᵘᵍʰᵗ ᵒᶠ ˢᵒᵐᵉ ʳᵉᵃˡˡʸ ⁿˢᶠʷ ᵗʰⁱⁿᵍ ʷⁱᵗʰ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵉᵍᵍᵖˡᵃⁿᵗ ʰᵒʳˢᵉ, ˢᵒ ⁱ ʰᵃᵈ ᵗᵒ ᵈᵉˡᵉᵗᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᵐᵒᵈ ⁱⁿ ᵒʳᵈᵉʳ ᵗᵒ ᵍᵉᵗ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵈⁱˢᵗᵘʳᵇⁱⁿᵍ ⁱᵐᵃᵍᵉ ᵒᵘᵗ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ʰᵉᵃᵈ.|| 
fair vessel
Yeah Save Anywhere might help you. It is incompatible with a number of other mods, but if it's the only mod you're running you should be fine @dawn saffron
dawn saffron
Auto save or manual save?
fair vessel
Good question, I haven't used it. I think manual?
dawn saffron
Also where do I find those mods? (never used one before!)
daring wagon
nexus is a good place to start
daring wagon
but i hope you run across a fix for your underlying problems, cause that is NO FUN.
dawn saffron
Manual save works too, I just need to remember to save after a productive mining session or after watering 240 crops
sweet belfry
I personally use moddrop bc it's easy to use
dawn saffron
but i hope you run across a fix for your underlying problems, cause that is NO FUN.
@daring wagon Well, I WOULD LIKE to find a fix for the crashes, but they are random and thus PAINFUL to debug, and sometimes it crashes without producing an error message in the logs.
Also I don't think save anywhere is "no fun"?
dawn saffron
oh
dire fractal
Terrible idea from rolling 5 kyanite in a row on geodes. Stardeep valley. Everything is underwater and you need a prawn suit to go tend crops while the goose leviathan swims around.
Maybe I should sleep.
dawn saffron
My last crash was past 11:00 at night in-game time, that was... more... painful
sharp belfry
You have an NRE in polish
@dire fractal an NRE?
dire fractal
NullReferenceException
sharp belfry
oh, that
dire fractal
I don't know polish, but I've seen the "object reference is not set to instance of an object" or w/e so many times in too many languages and was sad google translate told me I was right about what it was.
sharp belfry
and there's also the System.NullReferenceException at the start of that line that could clue you in 🤣
anyway it's just MFM so 🤷♂️ I honestly can't be bothered fixing it
dire fractal
right
restive zodiac
@heavy sail I will be out for a bit, but if it does end up being the problem with spouse area after all, another option besides editing yourself would be to uninstall and use something like https://www.moddrop.com/stardew-valley/mods/647584-pet-house-buildables-for-tmx-loader which lets you build pet houses where you want them! I don't think it should be possible for buildables or map merges in CP or TMX to cause ordering issues anymore (new tilesheets are auto prefixed), plus you can use a custom farm map and still have a pet house if you want.
heavy sail
@restive zodiac I’ll try that, but actually Pethouse CP wasn’t the problem, I just tested it.
restive zodiac
That's going to be fun to track down then 😄
waxen pewter
Hey guys, so I'm really new to using mods (like this is day 2) but I'm trying to set up different mod groups rn and running into some issues. Basically I'm pretty sure I followed the instructions in the player guide on the wiki but for some reason when I try to run the code in the terminal on my mac that would make my txt file executable, it seems like it runs, but it's not changing anything
sharp belfry
Awwe you have 3 of my mods!
@fair vessel really? :O what's your name on nexus?
heavy sail
so here's my monster of a modlist if anyone besides @fair vessel was curious https://smapi.io/log/5e900e48d21940fd89bab13f5da23d27
@sharp belfry I just noticed one of my mods too! “Beach Music”
dire fractal
@waxen pewter the chmod command?
sharp belfry
...I derped and mistyped your name in the search, that's why I couldn't find you 😂 @fair vessel
waxen pewter
@dire fractal Yep! I used chmod 755 and then my file path, but I'm not running into anything saying that my file path is wrong
fair vessel
ha, did you spell it with an extra u? I've seen that happen
sharp belfry
nope, I swapped the first o with an a for some reason :P
dire fractal
toss us (or to me) the output of ls -l /path/to/file ?
fair vessel
Janqora... hmm, not bad hehe
waxen pewter
I'm getting no such file or directory which is weird because I have the file in desktop
fair vessel
I totally made this name up by squishing other words together, but turns out it's also the name of a place in Uzbekistan 
dire fractal
huh. double check all the letter casing in the path? depending on how your mac is set up it may or may not be case-sensitive.
waxen pewter
Wait I figured it out
heavy sail
I totally made this name up by squishing other words together
@fair vessel same with mine
waxen pewter
Literally just lists the contents of my desktop actually so nevermind
Which is great but it still lists my SMAPI_SVE file as .txt
dire fractal
oh, that was the file in question?
waxen pewter
Yeah I'm trying to create a separate mod group for Stardew Valley Expanded
dire fractal
chmod won't change the extension, and technically *nix doesn't care.
on that ls output, does the left column for that txt file say something like rwxr-xr-x ?
waxen pewter
Yes it does
dire fractal
the x being present indicates yes-executable for a given permission role. You could probably just type ./SMAPI_SVE.txt and it'll run
waxen pewter
I'm getting an unexpected end of file error
Wait I figured it out
Ok it works! Thanks so much!
dire fractal
\o/
sharp belfry
million dollar question: why the everlasting fuck is item spawner causing an OutOfMemoryException
white wing
Question: Has anyone else had the CC!completed music play at the start of day? It's happened both on my previous save and this brand new one.
white wing
Yep!
daring wagon
Someone recently reported that same exact thing and said they didn't have any mods besides SVE that messed with music. They said they'd post in the comments on the SVE Nexus page to see if anyone else had the same issue-you could look over there to see if they found a fix for it or figured out if it came from a different mod. Do you know if you have any other mods that affect the game music?
If you don't mind, a log would be nice 🙂 then we could compare with the other one
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
daring wagon
I also use SVE (and love it!) but I play with my music off, so.... never bothered paying attention lol
cursive wharf
Anyone know a good mod that makes all the 'Collect X of things' that you need to collect -after- aquiring the quest into simply 'Present me X of things regardless of wether you got them now or had them in your pocket for three years'? Mainly due to now playing Multiplayer and well, some things I like, some things my friends like
daring wagon
oh goodness, that would be such a useful mod!!! @ me if you find one!
If you don't, please throw it up on the mod suggestions list!! I'd really love for that to work. https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas
white wing
I think SVE is the only one with custom music, but here's the log.
It does load new music when I switch to a new area (ie, Farm to Town), but it's still weird.
calm niche
I wish there was a mod that allowed you to herd your animals in at night
daring wagon
The only mod you share under the Custom Music mod is indeed SVE, but thinking about that, I wonder if it's custom music itself?
I think you can also get NPCs or some other things that do events to play music, not sure if that falls under custom music.
severe oak
@waxen pewter Have you changed the file type from .txt to .sh? If not, try that, then run chmod +x insertfilename.sh in your command line. You can then test it by typing ./filename.sh
waxen pewter
Ok thanks!
daring wagon
@white wing I'd check SVE and Custom Music's Nexus pages for a fix, or (the other thing that was suggested for the other person) you could try toggling off each of your mods individually by putting a . in front of the folder name in your Mods folder and see which one changes that behavior (I think you can toggle off SVE's custom music patch individually, not sure?)
white wing
Thank for you the suggestions! I'll take a look at the Nexus pages today
severe oak
I'm trying to add a second version of stardew valley on steam (by adding it as a non-steam game) and am having some difficulty, does anyone have any pointers?
daring wagon
@calm niche seems like fun suggestion! You can definitely add it to the mod idea list on GitHub. That's linked in the pins on this channel and also up about 10-15 comments.
a.... second.... version of stardew? Why would someone need such a thing, out of curiousity?
torn mason
I don't think steam is happy about two games pointing to the same executable, but you can make a shortcut and have it pointed towards the shortcut
( I have mod groups attached to shortcuts and I've registered them all to launch from steam )
fair vessel
I have 3 copies downloaded all from Steam
(different versions dating back to v1.04)
severe oak
I know that I saw online something about copying the whole stardew valley file?
fair vessel
I can run them all
(but not all launching from the Steam client)
🤔 though I haven't actually tried setting them up...
sharp belfry
these are rookie numbers
severe oak
@daring wagon It's so that I can have them use separate mod files (I already figured out how to do that in the steam launcher, I just need more versions of the game to do that with)
I also need them to launch from steam so I can play multiplayer
fair vessel
Nah, you don't. Cherry can explain
torn mason
fair vessel
You can do it all with mod groups and 1 copy of sdv
torn mason
for different mod groups, check out the instructions here: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F
sharp belfry
@torn mason nice
restive zodiac
(re: wabbajack, it should technically work with Stardew using Vortex - it was initially for MO2 so it was sort of modmanager focused - but I'm not sure they added a way yet to just do simple folder installation. When I asked about it some time back it was a probably will do but not yet, and I'm not sure what the plans are now. ModDrop has modpacks that work similarly in the whole "download from source" sense, though.)
sharp belfry
all shall join me
severe oak
I did use that, and I have mod groups, but the issue is that they don't connect to steam, meaning I can't play multiplayer with them @torn mason
torn mason
I've added the mod group shortcuts to steam
severe oak
How do you do that?
fair vessel
listening in lol
severe oak
lol
torn mason
im technically at work right now so I don't have access to my steam profile to double check all the steps
its been a while since I set it up
daring wagon
@sharp belfry do you have a list of all the mods you're running rn somewhere?
curious
torn mason
could have sworn all i did was add the shortcut as a non-steam game
sharp belfry
yeah, I posted a log a while earlier just for that purpose 😆
daring wagon
looking up
severe oak
wait so how do I make a shortcut? I'm on linux fyi
restive zodiac
You could launch Steam with same applaunch argument, or change Steam launch options directly to add --mods-path, or just use non-steam start scripts and connect via IP
torn mason
I connect just using IP all the time cause sometimes I launch the game from visual studio
severe oak
I actually did change the steam launch option to add the mods path part, and it works perfectly, it's just that I can only use one group of mods launched from steam then
restive zodiac
Invite codes do get around a lot of the normal messiness of direct connnect but can port forward if needed
severe oak
Oh really? I had no idea, I'll try invite codes
restive zodiac
No, invite codes are the things you can only do when launched from Steam, join via lan is the option to connect via IP
severe oak
Okay, I'll do that then
restive zodiac
I was saying that there is a convenience factor in being online in Steam/Galaxy, but as Cherry said it's not the only way to connect
daring wagon
@sharp belfry ok that's a lot of CP mods
severe oak
That totally makes sense, I hadn't thought about that
fair vessel
The Steam launch options just points to the smapi executable. You can do the low-tech version of mod groups just by having different mod folders, e.g.
Mods-Friends
Mods-Solo
Mods-SVE
...and then right before you want to play, rename the folder you want to use to just Mods
sharp belfry
@daring wagon I know 🤣
fair vessel
And launch with Steam, it'll use those mods
restive zodiac
The Steam launch options just points to the smapi executable
No, in this case you add the--mods-pathargument to the launch options (which they are already using). Linux/Mac don't do the SMAPI executable launch options.
fair vessel
oh! okay, ignore me haha
restive zodiac
(SMAPI install replaces the entire startup script on Mac and Linux, and renames the original to StardewValley-original... it's the one time where something game-related is more convenient on Mac/Linux :P )
torn mason
something I've started doing recently was having a few different loadouts inside the Mods folder
so it'd be
Mods
/Frameworks
/Debug
/PPJA
/temp
and I put a . in front of anything to disable them, but that's because my testing setup has gotten more and more complex and different mod groups are annoying when making mods since I don't wanna mess with my target in my build settings XD
thats a simplified version but I have a folder for "every JA mod ever to test custom items stuff" and "here's specific mods I might have compat problems with" etc
and its a lot of enabling and disabling stuff on the fly lol
restive zodiac
Yeah for the longest time I just multi-selected folders to rename with . all at once, then multi-selected folders to rename and remove the . all at once, and then sometimes I have a .turnoffpls to just drag a bunch if the disabled folders start really piling up 😅
All of my work folders are just such a mess at this point that being in them is a lot like being in a trashed room where you're like "I should really clean up, but..."
"right now I just need this cable... backs out of room slowly and shuts door"
light horizon
what would happen if you load up an old save that you didn't use any mods on with your new set of mods?
fair vessel
Couldn't you just still use Mods folder renaming on Linux then?
@light horizon most mods can be used on existing saves no problem
fair vessel
Although watch out if you ever want to go back to playing that save without mods ... some mods can cause crashes if you try going back to vanilla
It can be a good idea to keep a backup of the vanilla savefolder in its current state in case you ever want to revert
light horizon
meh.
that's cool though. in rimworld if you try to play a save file that was created without like the set of mods you currently have enabled, you just can't play that file until you revert your mods to match
torn mason
in stardew you can pretty much add and remove mods on the fly. some mods will need special steps to avoid bricking the save, but it's all possible to do safely
fair vessel
So if you find a cool rimworld mod halfway into a save game... you can't add it?
shy orbit
i'm sure i have both added and removed mods on rimworld during the same playthrough
maybe it's a feature from the mod manager i used
it does warn you about the mismatch, but you can load the save anyway. at least in my case
restive zodiac
Couldn't you just still use Mods folder renaming on Linux then?
@fair vessel Sure, sorry if anything I said suggested otherwise! I had tried to multiple options (including launch options) and then just clarified the "all the launch options do..." part since it wouldn't be for SMAPI executable in that case :) Those two options feel like like same tactic from different directions - one keeps it always pointing at Mods but changes which folder is Mods, and one keeps all the folders and renames the launch option folder to ModsMp Mods2 MyMods, whatever to point at right one!
(And if it was the last one just replying to Cherry's message about how they've been organizing them lately to comment how messy mine are, definitely not a recommendation for long-term, haha)
Rimworld mods usually mention being save safe or not, but I admit to being spoiled by Stardew in that sense when it comes to other games... I have broken quite a few because I insist on plowing ahead :P
quartz cloak
@everyone My friend has just downloaded mods and they have loads on, but we are trying to turn off a certain one but we dont know which it is. For some reason when he loads up it says "Hello adam, it is the 3rd of spring" blah blah blah and like talks like the tv stuff and speaks npc dialoge, anyone kno what this mod could be so we could delete it?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
daring wagon
Can make a guess with that, maybe 🙂
Also, does it talk like you can hear it or there are a bunch of dialogue boxes popping up when you open it?
sharp belfry
@quartz cloak for the future: DO NOT PING @ everyone
quartz cloak
@sharp belfry sorry
frigid crown
how do i upload my smapi log
restive zodiac
(It's disabled here fortunately, but yes, otherwise you'd be pinging 60k people across all channels, which is pretty rude :P)
daring wagon
!log @frigid crown 🙂
native dragonBOT
@frigid crown Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
frigid crown
i still dont get it i dont know witch file im supposed to put
loud dirge
Not actually asking for a solution, just griping: I can't use Custom Music expansion packs because .wav files are gigantic and make Stardew itself start throwing an out of memory error
daring wagon
Ok, we can walk through it a step at a time. Which platform do you use, Mac/Windows/Android/Linux?
loud dirge
Custom Music .ogg support has been dropped, apparently for stability reasons, but I am also having a stability reasons problem that would have been solved by it so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
daring wagon
Adam, that was for you. Which platform?
thin dawn
Hey, I've never modded stardew valley before, and want some recommendations for mods. No NSFW mods though.
daring wagon
Ooooh, that's awesome! Here are some Pathos recommends: https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 and some from LenneDalben, who is a regular in this channel: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_qmtiO74ENg99aDL97xhLjVawV5pQLQtmHCidLTnbRc/edit.
If you know what you want to do with mods, I might have a few recommendations too (particularly crop mods ❤️ )
thin dawn
A lot of those mods on github are really good.
Especially the map and the no soil decay.
Thanks.
queen sable
I couldn't get the No soil decay to only work on my farm, so after awhile all the soil on the beach and around town was dug up and couldn't spawn worms
daring wagon
Tractor mod would help with that. I tend to plow everything, then put it all back
shy orbit
@loud dirge afaik custom music only keeps the sound files in memory after it has played them once, or if they have the Preload option as true (in content.json). so you can potentially do something about the issue by modifying the sound packs you use
shy orbit
yeah, that's what i was told
loud dirge
custom music comments say if you have it off, there's a freeze while they get loaded
shy orbit
because they are not loaded into memory
loud dirge
and I do like my responsiveness
ah well I'll just put it all on in shuffle in my music player in the background instead
fair vessel
Progress on the partly-custom tumblr theme for my sharable modlist plans: it's coming along well! https://stardewmodlist.tumblr.com/
Just need to edit it so that it includes image previews for link posts... I want to minimize the number of steps for people to click to the actual mod.
woeful quiver
I have a question! I want to use a pretty reshade mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1213. However, I also want to play with a controller (don't come for me). It seems that starting the game with the reshade disables controller support. Is there a way to fix this? Or do these two things just not work together?
heavy sail
I don’t use Natural Shade - Recolor but I think it won’t work since you load the game with a separate program, which may cause controller support to fail. Now I’m not sure if I’m correct, but that seems the most reasonable.
woeful quiver
oh well, I thought as much but that's too bad
torn mason
I have a friend who jumped through a lot of hoops to get it to work with natural reshade
and it is a very, very convoluted roundabout method
woeful quiver
... oh?
torn mason
something about using a wiiu controller wired through a third party app that tricks the computer into thinking its an xbox controller, remap it, and then use a special shortcut to natural reshade
woeful quiver
uff, oh ok, that really does seem convoluted and more work than I'm willing to invest. Thanks for the explanation though!
torn mason
dsaghdsagh yeah, it doesn't natively work with controllers ^^; so anything you do to make it work probably has a lot of steps
woeful quiver
ah well, I guess the game is beautiful even without the reshade 🙂
rose python
I'm trying to find a mod to change Sam's sprite and not both the sprite and portrait, because his portrait has been changed already.
vital spade
you could just delete the portrait parts of the mod?