Check the mod pages for the defaults, but most you can customize as well
#archived-modded-support
restive zodiac
restive zodiac
Which one do you like better?
chrome cedar
i don't know
dire fractal
.choose Minerva, Ace
devout pumiceBOT
Ace
dire fractal
^
vital dew
That bot is biased though
restive zodiac
Just pick one and try it out, you can always switch later :P
frozen orchid
Personally I prefer Minerva's but that's just me
restive zodiac
(I'm slightly biased against Ace's because I'm super lazy and I don't like having to get a separate tilesheet download haha)
dire fractal
.choose Minerva, Minerva, Ace
devout pumiceBOT
Minerva
dire fractal
^
dire fractal
pls go to #governors-mansion , Strobe
chrome cedar
but minerva's is more configurable (?
ace's add a lot of stuff to the last upgrade of the farmhouse
and it feels it has less room to place your own things
i'll try Minerva's and i'll choose
bright ocean
Yep, I use those myself
chrome cedar
lul
bright ocean
there's a small issue with the warps, but i have a fix for part of that after i'm done adulting today
the other part Mabel has to look into
distant bane
wth, who made artisan valley?
bright ocean
!ppja
white schoonerBOT
Project Populate Json Assets (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1935) is a collection of content packs for Json Assets that add new crops, flowers, trees, and recipes. (Also see https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/ for a collection of references for PPJA and associated packs.)
distant bane
That pricing 😮
dire fractal
what do you want me to change??
distant bane
I found out why my coffee was 500g, but then i checked why 3 tea leaves went into black kombucha and got 2k from it...
I don't know, probably personal opinion, but that's quite a lot
bright ocean
That doesn't sound like us
dire fractal
!log
white schoonerBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
bright ocean
Yeah, it's not worth 2k
distant bane
oh, kombucha is 750 right
that would seem alright
also where can i get this list? would be quite handy..
dire fractal
I have a feeling AV and Quality Artisan Products might be having a weird interaction
chrome cedar
Minerva, the base farmhouse shouldn't have the batrhoom included?
bright ocean
It does
chrome cedar
hm
distant bane
i don't have them, but it would triple the price, i got iirc 2250 from one kombucha
base quality
chrome cedar
yeah something went wrong
bright ocean
Yeah, that's odd husa. Sounds like something else going on there
dire fractal
1700 * 1.4 = 2380
distant bane
I'll go through quality artisan and change the values there, i wanted just the mayo and cheese, anything else is way op
dire fractal
(btw I didn't make AV, if that wasn't clear enough)
Minerva and her group PPJA made it
@distant bane can you remove QAP and check
(you'll have to produce a new output to check
not existing outputs)
distant bane
I'll try that, i won't remove though, i just deleted the rules i didn't like and check before i let it go forever
chrome cedar
Minerva, why does you attic has one single chair looking at the wall, it's really creepy
dire fractal
yeah this is just for testing
bright ocean
I was gonna say
chrome cedar
aaaand going back to ace's
dire fractal
distant bane
Also (in progress btw), what to do when i accidentally launched a save without map remake and there are trees and undestroyable objects inside buldings? (like overlapping)
dire fractal
lol
bright ocean
Reset Terrain Features is what you need
Remind me in 2 hours to ask for some new commands after my meeting
devout pumiceBOT
DUDE!! Hell YEAH i can do that (#1286042)
bright ocean
Looks about right with a Profession perk
dire fractal
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4715
Install Reset Terrain Features. See the mod description for instructions on opening the menu. Reset all trees and bushes using the mod.
distant bane
normal sell price: 150; my sell price: 805g
dire fractal
(how do you add quotes?)
frozen orchid
^ React with that
devout pumiceBOT
Quote added by Strobe as #462794
distant bane
The sheet says 150g for kombucha, 300g for chanterelle kombucha
bright ocean
You have some interaction somewhere then
distant bane
when diving by 1.4, that is 575 and 950
dire fractal
Did you remove QAP?
dire fractal
For testing purposes, can-- yeah
distant bane
still the same results
dire fractal
like did you produce new output?
distant bane
yep
distant bane
just took 2 shrooms, put them into jar, slept for 2 days and sold
i don't even know what that is
dire fractal
have you replaced any game files?
dire fractal
is the selling price of mushroom normal?
chrome cedar
has anyone tried sundrop city?
distant bane
I'll check
dire fractal
Minerva is in (or at least was) in the Sundrop Team
distant bane
Yes, 40g
dire fractal
We need a PFM patch summary
chrome cedar
pfm?
chrome cedar
what's pfm ;-;
dire fractal
Do you have a log where you created those kombuchas?
Maybe the Trace has some clues
distant bane
How created?
compact forum
Producer Framework Mod
The new alternative to Custom Farming Redux (adding custom machines)
chrome cedar
oh
dire fractal
doesn't matter
logs are created real time
so you can add mushrooms sleep 2 days
get the output
sleep
and post the log
bright ocean
(Yes, i'm still on Sundrop's admin team)
chrome cedar
does it work well with SVE?
bright ocean
See the comments on the mod page please, we've addressed this multiple times
@dire fractal i have an edited json for Yellog's that I've been using, do you want to try it? It also makes the craftables non-seasonal indoors so they don't look out of place
distant bane
https://smapi.io/log/c961b452d4824185a9fe510a786516a6
- destroyed a seasonal plant to open up blocked path to farm cave
- picked all shrooms (since i didn't have more)
- went to house, put 2 brown shrooms to glass jars
- slept 2 days
- went and sold 2 kombuchas and 1 and 1 brown shroom
- went to sleep, processed profit screen (still overkilled prices)
- left the game
dire fractal
Does Skill Prestige increase Artisan Good prices?
distant bane
didn't look into the files specifically but should just give the player professions and alternate xp multiplier
dire fractal
I can't really see any relevant info so maybe Digus or someone else has an idea
but I would try removing prestige and trying
dire fractal
(on a new save)
distant bane
how the heck am i going to get 100 slime and shrooms on a new save
dire fractal
You can use CJB Item Spawner to spawn anything you want
(great for testing)
and troubleshooting
dire fractal
Try both, actually
distant bane
how to spawn or open the menu?
dire fractal
did you install the mod first?
distant bane
yes
dire fractal
you need to press i
dire fractal
Hmm :\
remove everything other than Console Commands, Save Backup, Artisan Valley and its requirements and CJB Item Spawner --- next step
if this fails
distant bane
Nope... Spawned and stacked produced had the normal price, produced had like... almost *4
dire fractal
if that still has high priced kombucha, then it's a bug with PFM
or something
what is the selling price of kombucha if you spawn it directly?
distant bane
as it should be
dire fractal
150?
dire fractal
okay
dire fractal
that's still in alpha
distant bane
high priced
chrome cedar
dang
distant bane
bright ocean
That's a normal error, it's because we don't have that map hooked up yet
dire fractal
Min, do you think there's a bug with PFM?
distant bane
Couldn't the price do something with the glass jar PFM having price increment: 200 and multiplier: 2.5?
bright ocean
(i'm only half following, in a meeting rn, but could be. there was an issue with the multipliers not applying recently)
distant bane
Well this looks like it IS applying even though it shouldn't...
dire fractal
hm
distant bane
Also while here, what is the best way to know what can i put in those producers ppja adds? Like there are a lot of them and i don't really know what they are for (just found out that when i dried some leaves, they had almost no price)
bright ocean
!ppja
white schoonerBOT
Project Populate Json Assets (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1935) is a collection of content packs for Json Assets that add new crops, flowers, trees, and recipes. (Also see https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/ for a collection of references for PPJA and associated packs.)
dire fractal
is it 875 for you?
distant bane
what
dire fractal
the selling price of Kombucha
dire fractal
distant bane
so it is bad made ppja pfm part?
dire fractal
idk
there's something certainly wrong in the AV configs though
JA for Kombucha has price of 150
PFM increases that using base price*2.5+200 = 575
distant bane
that makes sense
Is the price for all the items set directly or calculated from it's pfm part? (like some of them)
dire fractal
need to ask the PPJA team
distant bane
i'll just delete the pieces where it alternates the price...
Can the bot remind me when someone types a comment here?
dire fractal
@keen moss in case you're interested! ^
distant bane
Also an option...
keen moss
That’s an issue with PFM AFAIK because the same thing happened with the dryer if we’re discussing multipliers
It should have been fixed however
My coding isn’t perfect but it certainly isn’t bad
distant bane
Well since you just copied and pasted the values and changed what you needed and let the rest, there are unnecessary rows, but still when having: InputPriceBased: false, it shouldn't do that, right?
dire fractal
Hmm, Para: Kombucha is supposed to sell for 150g. It has that info in JA Objects. Shouldn't multiplier and increment be defaults?
I mean, why is it being increased by x2.5+200
keen moss
Yes there are unnecessary rows but they wouldn’t affect it
You’re welcome to send a PR with a fix
That’s what Mizu’s documents specified
Also how it was in the CFR version
distant bane
PR?
dire fractal
Strange
keen moss
Pull Request
On github
So it should be 150 + input * 2.5 + 200 IIRC I’m on mobile so not looking at it right now
Then PEMDAS that
distant bane
wth these shortcuts... What is PEMDAS? And it is 150*2.5+200, it ignores the input
dire fractal
then the docs are wrong ig
keen moss
Math stuff - parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction. The order it should be done in.
dire fractal
at the moment it is
(150*2.5)+200 = 575
keen moss
I’ll look at it when I have the files
Is it only the normal Kombucha
The others should have set values
(Strawberry Grapefruit for example is defined as its own item)
distant bane
i tried other kombuchas and it results in the same thing
chrome cedar
is there a way to use Sunset Garden Greenhouse with IF2R?
dire fractal
distant bane
black kombucha was around 2k, it is 750 set
dire fractal
<3
main cloud
sorry for the interruption, but is there a mod/way to make tapping faster? i have CJB cheat menu but it only makes it finish instantly
distant bane
well if all the values are set like that, i can delete all the rows for you and send just the .json file
dire fractal
SGK would sell for
chrome cedar
a tapper's dream i think let's you config the file for every tree
keen moss
$$$
main cloud
okay i wasn't sure about that one
keen moss
I’ll get a build together and send it for testing
bright ocean
!sve @chrome cedar
white schoonerBOT
@chrome cedar Stardew Valley Expanded (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3753) is a mod which adds a lot of new content and areas to the game. It has many dependencies, so be sure to follow the install guide which is on the github wiki along with FAQs and troubleshooting steps for common issues: https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki
dire fractal
I think the solution is to keep Multiplier as 1 and Increment as 0
since the JA files already have the correct prices
distant bane
(which are defaults, aren't they?)
dire fractal
yes
keen moss
Brb
molten turtle
hello everyone! I imagine this is the channel for seeking help with SMAPI issues
bright ocean
Yep
molten turtle
I had no issues before the last update, but now my friends will randomly get disconnected in MP
Seems to be winsock, which I would imagine comes from Mono since I'm on MacOS
bright ocean
There's been some issues with disconnects since the 1.4.5 update apparently
chrome cedar
i love SVE dude
bright ocean
Try this guide first
white schoonerBOT
If you can't create or use invite codes, try the steps listed here: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_another_player_in_multiplayer
bright ocean
!mphelp
molten turtle
I updated the UnlimitedPlayers mod and thought it could be that, but even re-dling the older version didn't fix
dire fractal
I could do a PR but there are a lot of machines using that same configuration.
118 producer rules
so not sure what's intended and what isn't
distant bane
well everything that has false, 200 and 2.5 is bad
since when you have false, you ignore anything else and it takes the value
I replaced all of that for false, 0 and 1 (since they definitely want to keep them there if anything happens) and imma try it once more, but with more items, then we can check the values
molten turtle
Minerva, I tried those
They connected fine, but the Terminal error is one a couple people had here before last year from a search I made, with no clear answer
wapi_WSAIoctl: Need to translate 6 [Device not configured] into winsock error
I re-installed SMAPI, could not uninstall Mono but installed it again
bright ocean
Terminal or SMAPI error?
molten turtle
shows on both
distant bane
These values look right i think
But as you have said, who knows what is intended...
But whenever something isn't input dependant, it isn't procedurally generated and therefore has a set price from ppja, so replacing all of them should be right.
molten turtle
Checked on the newest smapi-latest, not showing there but on the terminal running smapi
dire fractal
what mono version do you have?
molten turtle
I know winsock errors are related to connections, this one happens every time I host
Also, latest version, I even downloaded it again today
Same as I had before anyway, the commands I tried to use to uninstall it didn't work either for some reason
dire fractal
mine, just in case
molten turtle
How do I get that screen?
molten turtle
atomic ruin
Hello, my friends and I are having an issue with the Stardew Valley Expansion mod.
There is a bush that is blocking the adventurer's guild. We are unable to speak to that NPC now.
I read the SVE guide, and it says we need to install a reset terrain features mod (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4715). But the guide also said this "If updating to 1.8+, please remove all previous files and follow the updated install guide. Many files were changed and new mods are required with this version onwards."
So I am wondering if this is outdated information...? If my friend installs the reset terrain mod, will it fix the issue with the bush that is blocking our path?
molten turtle
I downloaded it today, so it should be the one being counted, rather than the previous I could not uninstall
bright ocean
No, you still need RTF
dire fractal
@atomic ruin yeah RTF is used to regen
bright ocean
(that line is regarding the previous use of Karmylla's maps)
dire fractal
@molten turtle I don't really know how to help but I can help you uninstall mono and reinstall
atomic ruin
after we install RTF, we don't need to install anything else to get this working, do we?
dire fractal
it allows you to open a menu in game that lets you do stuff
read the mod page for instructions
oak igloo
chrome cedar
does anyone has the Shiko Mod? it still asks me to update to 1.2 but on nexus there only is up to 1.1
dire fractal
!modrecs
white schoonerBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
dire fractal
gonna head off soon
molten turtle
@dire fractal thank you, that would be great, because the sudo commands in Mono's site didn't work and I'm not fond of potentially having to use a new 1GB every time I install it again rip
I'm alright with waiting any amount of time
dire fractal
Heh, I was gonna suggest the sudo commands. what error do you get?
distant bane
Oh, also, thanks a lot strobe for looking for the problem with me ^^
atomic ruin
ty for the help
dire fractal
no problem husaj
molten turtle
sudo: /etc/sudoers is world writable
sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin```
for all 3I pasted them from the site, all together then each line separately
atomic ruin
oh also if we are playing multiplayer, do all players need to install the terrain mod
or just the host?
bright ocean
Typically we rec all players have the same mods
atomic ruin
oh ok ty
dire fractal
try this Makoto https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20074537/etc-sudoers-is-world-writable-on-mac-os-x-mavericks
molten turtle
all my terminals also start with .bash_sessions: Operation not permitted but I think that hasn't given me issues before
proven thicket
when did two separate channels for modding happen?
dire fractal
are you on Catalina?
proven thicket
what
shut violet
it happened saturday
molten turtle
it's High Sierra
shut violet
and i think the question wasn't for you
as it happen pretty often when there are multiple discussions
dire fractal
open Disk Utility and run first aid
proven thicket
so did the old modding channel get a new name or what?
keen moss
I'll take a look now, no promises a build will be ready quickly but I'll ping when I have one
bright ocean
No need to ask in both channels Timothy
There was a message about it a while back, with a mass ping
proven thicket
any screenshot of that ping?
molten turtle
first aid is done
dire fractal
does terminal still have the Operation not permitted?
molten turtle
...yes
bright ocean
molten turtle
I can't find the Full Disk Access option
molten turtle
It's not there. I don't get it, since I should be the admin and all
dire fractal
molten turtle
dire fractal
click on Advanced
dire fractal
ah apparently it was introduced in Mojave
molten turtle
it seems multiplayer issues are just the tip of the iceberg in this mess
dire fractal
I need to go now, though.
devout pumiceBOT
@bright ocean: ask for some new commands after your meeting (2h ago)
bright ocean
Ah yes
molten turtle
that's fine, I'll look into it in the meanwhile
dire fractal
Can you upgrade to Catalina?
molten turtle
apparently yeah
though I'm concerned it could crash some stuff I use that cannot get updated
dire fractal
hmm as long as it's 64 bit, shouldn't be a problem
molten turtle
I guess I'll do it and hope for the best
molten turtle
I have to eat while I wait, but thank you for the help so far
keen moss
Going through and cleaning up stuff. It just looks like the InputPriceBased was set to false for Kombucha. Going to move this to #making-mods-general now
chrome cedar
anyone with the tainted cellar's mod that knows about why does it not work? https://smapi.io/log/b9b3befc9e714585a34821e85039cadf
chrome cedar
Removed invalid location 'TaintedCellarMap' to avoid a crash when loading save 'Rekidan_241565762'. (Did you remove a custom location mod?)
deft root
such an old mod won't work anymore
bright ocean
Pathos did updates, but I'm not sure how recent the last one was
That one could be a buildable now, probably
chrome cedar
july 2019
bright ocean
Hmm, it's on the 1.3 thread. Might be the same issue I had with Karm's hidden areas
Did you have it before today?
chrome cedar
nope
a couple days ago i tried installing the one on nexus mods until i realized it didn't work, today i checked on smapi an actual version and it led me to that one
deft root
I believe the way the mod compatibility list is updated is just seeing if the game runs at all with the mods on, so it's probably broken if I had to guess
have you tried running the game with nothing but the cellar mod to see if it works?
bright ocean
Sounds like the same issue then. Can you test on a save with just the cellar and some basic testing mods so we can reach out to Pathos
Based on my experience, the cellar should still work, so it might be a bad check on the locations
chrome cedar
i have to take out all the mods from the mod folder except that one right?
chrome cedar
ok
bright ocean
But we want to have a smaller folder for easier troubleshooting
chrome cedar
sure, gonna take a while though
bright ocean
@viscid pond Think this is the most recent one
bright ocean
Custom one, yep
I need to fix some small issues still, it'll be released at some point
Zola made the base and then I made some adjustments
viscid pond
cool
Winter year 2
this may not be big enough.. >.> <.<
it's a big map, but not that much farming space..
bright ocean
Yeah, all of mine is tillable. I'm using the right field for ponds and trees, but it could very easily be a crop field
viscid pond
slowly moving east on mine
dire fractal
when are you releasing this? :') Hadi and Corrin will love it
chrome cedar
done
bright ocean
when i get the spoons to finish fixing it and move from bundled tilesheets to separate ones
dire fractal
gives Min all the spoons
bright ocean
Esca added one thing to FTM for me, just need to test that it works
takes gratefully
Today's a bad spoon day, hence the status 😩
chrome cedar
you need the log?
bright ocean
Log, save, and mods folder please!
chrome cedar
how do i give you the last two?
shut violet
you can zip them and share them here i think ?
white schoonerBOT
Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
bright ocean
To locate save files
chrome cedar
i see nothing wrong with it on the log anymore
ah wait
i need some mods for it to "work"
save for that
and the mods?
bright ocean
What about if you add Pytk and TMXL back in?
chrome cedar
on it
again, nothing
with all the mods on it appeared a message in game telling me some mods were not added, and in the log it appear the line that it was avoided because it would crash the game
bright ocean
Hmm, so it's likely some type of conflict I'd guess. Can you slowly add mods back in until the error comes back? And then test with the minimum setup and the last group to see if it still happens
bright ocean
(or it may not come back, since the Karm ones have seemingly disappeared, but let's be thorough)
subtle nebula
@shell jackal I need the whole save folder. Including the SaveGameInfo file
woven lance
Im not going to try and push it, but I feel like asking at least once is ok:
Is there anyone i could talk to about unofficial updates? Like actual talk about not just "hey could you do this". I requested one a week ago at this point and i havent even had a comment on it. Is that fairly normal?
bright ocean
Yep, pretty typical
It depends on the mod and how complex/what type it is if it's feasible
Which mod?
woven lance
bwdyworks and Polygamy.
i wouldnt be surprised if it took that long or longer to be updated, i just wasnt sure if silence until an update was posted was the norm. found it a tad odd that it'd been a week and no one had replied or commented on my request at all (even if the comment was "cant be done sorry")
bright ocean
Ah, bwdy is rewriting polygamy, yeah
The old one is super buggy and complex
discord pls
bright ocean
Yeah, he's over in #making-mods-general right now actually XD
woven lance
hah, nice. i have weird timing like that
bright ocean
He promises it will be worth the wait
woven lance
rad
torn mason
I think re: unofficial updates, ppl who go through it to pick up requests mostly just reply with the ones they end up picking
unkempt stirrup
I want like
a machine gun
that fires parsnips
torn mason
It's basically if they can't do something, you don't want 50 ppl all replying with "I can't do that one"
hasty flume
preview images are an important part of making mods appealing
woven lance
only reason i even thought of it again is 3 of the 4 girls i was looking at dating just hit 7 hearts (and one I already gave a bouquet and have at 10)
unkempt stirrup
my game is completely on break until Poly is out
woven lance
honestly? totally fair
if i didnt need my stardew fix i'd probably do that with this game ngl
woven lance
but a man needs his farming
400?!?
i love stardew and i dont even have that time total
unkempt stirrup
probably closer to 380 but peanuts
that's just my 1.4 save file I sunk hundreds of hours into 1.2
regal prism
Has anyone had missing audio while in the caves like bats and flies missing their sounds using SVE?
compact forum
@limber cape Sorry for the ping, do you know if Better Mixed Seeds works with the new 1.4 on Android?
unkempt stirrup
Davrial, everyone
I replaced everyone with hot busty anime girls, so
everyone.
bright ocean
As of December Belly
compact forum
1.4 was released recently on Android, I was wondering if they knew it was working since that update (As it was the 1.4 compat update of BMS that broke Android support)
bright ocean
(Kuugen, maybe not the best place to discuss those)
unkempt stirrup
I am not discussing them, give me a break
woven lance
@unkempt stirrup lol same but even still i only want the ones whose personalities i like
unkempt stirrup
I mentioned them in passing, it's not like I'm writing erotica for the guy
personality-wise... gender swapped Sebastian and Sam are neat
especially since if you swap all the guys, then Sam has a girl-band going hah
woven lance
yeah hard agree. girl sam is great
unkempt stirrup
Penny is kinda boring, needs a mod that makes her an international spy in hiding after her cover was blown
and the boring personality is all a facade
broken marsh
My mac did a software update and now SVE won't load - just a black screen I have to force quit out of. I tried updating and replacing all of the mods with the same result. Any ideas? SMAPI log here: https://smapi.io/log/6210f8b632f64f9e900544f9aa8d3591
woven lance
hard disagree on penny. she's great. she's nice and just a bit shy. she cute. i married her on my first (vanilla) game
chrome cedar
the only different thing that i have on that file is that i've used get glam and changed my character with it
woven lance
your save might just be corrupted. do you have the backups?
bright ocean
mj, looks like it freezes while loading. how long did you wait?
bright ocean
try waiting up.......
bright ocean
no, i meant after it froze
chrome cedar
it might be my save
this save
yeah i think it's the saves
none of the other 2 saves aside from the new one and the one i was playng with today works
woven lance
see if there's any other backups
i personally back up my save every time i update or install a mod
manually that is
chrome cedar
nah
i was just starting and i didn't really care about those saves
but still there are 3 errors that i don't know why do they happen or what do they affect
well i guess i'll just start a new one, i was only on day 9 of spring
woven lance
oh that's not too bad at all then
chrome cedar
yeah, i'll just make sure to properly install all the mods i want before starting though
hollow ledge
Has anyone been having trouble getting stardew valley expanded to work after the 1.8 update?
woven lance
ive never used SVE. opinions on it? how much does it change the core experience?
chrome cedar
changes a lot
chrome cedar
it's like a DLC
split lotus
.. it is not like a DLC.
hollow ledge
So you know how stardew is basically made by all one guy? Its like if there was a second whole guy
woven lance
no, i know it changes a lot, but how much does it change the core experience?
split lotus
Uh.. honestly: not much.
hollow ledge
Not much if you mean mechanic stuff?
split lotus
It just exends it
hollow ledge
Like none
split lotus
*extends
woven lance
mechanical stuff and general feel
bright ocean
It's a map and story thing, for the most part
hollow ledge
It just adds map, some npcs, events, dialogue
chrome cedar
and as far as i know minerva is working on another DLC kind of mod
hollow ledge
It feels the same as regular stardew
bright ocean
I like some of the maps, but I don't agree with the story
woven lance
i know it makes the map and story bigger so i wasnt sure if that changes the feel of the town drestically
split lotus
It does? 🤔
split lotus
Some of the story in SVE really feels like it doens't belong.
chrome cedar
kind*
hollow ledge
Really?
chrome cedar
i mean for how much content it is
woven lance
what type of new city?
hollow ledge
I love sve
woven lance
i was thinking an elf city accessed via the secret forest would be super rad
bright ocean
(You should never refer to a mod as DLC, just fyi. Or dlc-like. Game makers tend to not like that XD)
frozen orchid
(Mods do not equal DLC)
hollow ledge
But i cant get it to work anymore DX
woven lance
since there's a dwarf in the game and elven items but no elves
bright ocean
SVE is very much one person's head-canon made into a giant mod - you may or may not like it
hollow ledge
Oh shit, yes to elf city
bright ocean
I feel it's very flat in characterization myself
split lotus
but given the reason why you may like or dislike it, you should still come to your own opinion about it
bright ocean
(and causes some major issues for some players due to the un-necessarily large maps)
hollow ledge
Ive also added a bunch if other dialogue mods and dont know which lines go to which mod lol
woven lance
does it at all s--t on any vanilla characters? know a lot of mods hate on Linus or Pierre or Lewis
hollow ledge
I havent noticed any negative stuff like that
bright ocean
You know the trope-y "the player character is always good and just" stuff? SVE does a lot of that
I can't recall if there was hate back when I used it, but I know a lot has changed since then
split lotus
I mean, you kinda have to in major mods.
hollow ledge
Yeah
split lotus
People might download a "You're a Vile One, Mr Grinch"
hollow ledge
I havent minded it at all
hollow ledge
But im also the person to get upset if i make an npc sad lol
woven lance
yeah the player character being good is nice
especially in a nice relaxing game like stardew
hollow ledge
Yeah!
woven lance
if it was a more gray game then i'd understand if you wouldnt want to be good
but its a chill good game so might as well have the PC be chill and good
hollow ledge
But im guessing from the convo that no one would have an idea on how to get it to run? Lol
hollow ledge
Pc, yeah
hollow ledge
Ive read and reread the install directions and just get errors from every file in the mod when i go to play
But the weird thing is that smapi acts like everything booted up properly
bright ocean
It more doesn't vibe with the canon is why I said that - the vanilla game gives you the option to be good or nasty, so it's jarring to see a mod that forces you the other way
hollow ledge
My mod manager mod is the one that tells me about the errors
hollow ledge
Hold on
bright ocean
prepares for vortex spiel
hollow ledge
Oh shit is it because i started using vortex?
split lotus
Yes.
woven lance
its not like brand newbies are getting SVE
split lotus
We recommend ModDrop, generally
hollow ledge
Dang iiiiiiiit
split lotus
Davrial: actually some are. <_<
bright ocean
But yeah, I won't tell you to NOT try it, but beware compatibility issues and I would try it in a different load out
woven lance
wait really?
bright ocean
Yeah, we get a ton of first time modders trying to install SVE
hollow ledge
LOL THAT WAS ME
bright ocean
There's a reason why there's a command and a github wiki for it
hollow ledge
Sce was my first mod XDDDD
woven lance
i always play vanilla before modding. then i get tune-up mods
bright ocean
It was hell in here when it still had xnbs
hollow ledge
Oh i played vanilla for like 3 years first though
woven lance
also ModDrop is a mod manager? i thought it was just a distribution site like Nexus?
hollow ledge
So i should switch to moddrop?
split lotus
ModDrop is a distro + manager
woven lance
i didnt know it was a manager
split lotus
I mean, I would, but you could also go with manual installs
After 1.4, it's a lot easier
hollow ledge
I just did everything manually up until a couple days ago and decided i might as well try out a real manager since i have so many mods
woven lance
is it better than SDVMM2?
woven lance
yeah i always get all the library/framework mods first and insert them manually before ANYTHING else
split lotus
yeah.
Thankfully with SMAPI there's nmo
"These eight mods patch this file, which mod should go where?"
hollow ledge
Yeahhhhh, thats a better idea. I wanted to see how many corners i could cut lol
bright ocean
SDVMM2 also had install issues last I heard
hollow ledge
Apparently i cut too many
split lotus
hollow ledge
No no like. Use something else to keep travk of when i needed to uodate and stuff
woven lance
@bright ocean its install issue is fixed by just putting it in the folder manually
hollow ledge
I know theyre absolutely required haha
woven lance
ah
hollow ledge
Can someone post the link to moddrop please?
woven lance
hollow ledge
Thanks so much!
hollow ledge
And i can put all my mods in here? Even sve?
woven lance
ugauga me bang code together
hollow ledge
I also went yhr caveman route until a week ago XD
bright ocean
@woven lance doesn't that defeat the purpose of a manager?
woven lance
i have SDVMM2 but i only used it to pull out mods when something was causing problems, or if i installed a mod that i only wanted to use occassionally
i did 90% manually
bright ocean
Eh, I find it easier to just use different folders and keep backups. Mind you, I have moddrop, but it can't handle my loadout XD I use it for certain backups though
woven lance
it cant handle your loadout? how many mods do you have??
bright ocean
You don't wanna know
split lotus
(too many)
hollow ledge
is it more than 50?
bright ocean
Let me put it this way - Scientist wants me to do an LP with my loadout XD
hollow ledge
XDDD
bright ocean
Just for the sheer 
factor
woven lance
who's Scientist?
bright ocean
ModScientist
bright ocean
(aka one of the devs for MD)
woven lance
oh, wow, really?
you should totally do that then
you'd have my sub and views
also you're pretty active on here: are you a mod author too? or just an active member? if you;re an author, whatcha got?
bright ocean
Well, A) I don't have a recording setup
B) I'm hard of hearing and thus hate hearing myself talk on recordings
C) I don't have the time XD
woven lance
triple RIP
bright ocean
Ah, you're fairly new, aren't you? Yes, I'm an author
we had a modder of the year contest at christmas time
woven lance
yeah i only joined a week ago (wow it's been that long already, heck)
oh wow, you have a TON of stuff. impressive.
oh hey im using one of your mods and didnt even realize it. love the farmer's market, nice work on that
bright ocean
Thank you! It needs an overhaul though
Reki, I have the update for Eemie's stuff - I'm the official maintainer of her works
woven lance
why's it need an overhaul?
aside from it having wheat and not being able to buy wheat
bright ocean
It was made before STF was published, for one, and I'd prefer to be able to use the token system from CP rather than lua scripting the random factor via TMXL
gray remnant
Downloaded festival of the mundane (sewer nightmarket mod) what day(s) does it occur ?
shell jackal
@subtle nebula Sorry for the trouble. Here.
gray remnant
alright ill look again
woven lance
oh speaking of shops
chrome cedar
thanks for the tip minerva
bright ocean
Welcome!
woven lance
i have a mod that makes shop items squares in a grid instead of a list
restive zodiac
@gray remnant It's on Spirits' Eve!
bright ocean
(If you find an eemie mod I haven't updated, let me know)
woven lance
dont remember the name of the mod
bright ocean
Better Shop Menu is the bomb
woven lance
it does what i said: it makes shops a tile grid instead of a huge list
chrome cedar
col
woven lance
absolutely neccesary if you have a lot of mods that add a lot of items
chrome cedar
i have seeds are rare so i doubt it will help me with pierre's
but i'll download it anyway
woven lance
"seeds are rare"?
chrome cedar
yes
woven lance
what's that do?
chrome cedar
you can't buy seeds from pierre
and you can only get them through mixed seeds
yes, pain
quaint thorn
ok so i need help, i just downloaded some mods for sv and I am using all of the CJB mods and they just, don't work, like the menu isn't there, also the launchers isn't giving me any error messages
woven lance
...why would you want that, Rek?
restive zodiac
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions at that page) and share the link here?
woven lance
thats not even challenge thats just tedium and annoyance
quaint thorn
yeah gimme a sec
theres more than just the CJB that was just an example
also the billboard anywhere mod works
restive zodiac
So you load your game and press p or i and the menu doesn't appear?
toxic ridge
Hey guys I'm using the mod Automate and CFAutomate. I know that the CFAutomate is broken, Is there a mod for the PFM Mods or does it work with the normal Automate?
dire fractal
If you're using CFR, you need CFAutomate. If you're using PFM you need PFM Automate
restive zodiac
chrome cedar
@woven lance it's for an actual challenge
you get to complete de CC by year 1 or starting year 2
toxic ridge
Thanks @dire fractal & @restive zodiac
chrome cedar
with my mods i need at least 4 years to complete them since i have hundreds of new crops/forage, and tons of new crafting recipes
last sorrel
Hey ya'll, I have a question. I was wondering if Stardew valley expanded conflicts with this mod called baker's life?
chrome cedar
and im looking for something to add some difficulty to the mines as well, i want this game to last
@last sorrel no
it just adds some recipes
last sorrel
Ok, it just has me downloading all these other mods that start with PPJA so I was worried since it felt like last time it broke my game
woven lance
tedium =/= challenge
chrome cedar
really?
woven lance
PPJA is the bomb tho
chrome cedar
if i want to download a clothing mod it is better to do it with JA or with CP?
last sorrel
okay, what do ya'll like most about it?
chrome cedar
to add more clothes
frozen orchid
JA
chrome cedar
ty
frozen orchid
Since clothing was changed in 1.4
Speaking for PPJA, and not speaking out of bias as I am one of the three team leads, I love the difficulty that the PPJA collection adds to the game. More crops to ship, more items in general to ship... there's even a community center bundle overhaul now that supports PPJA items that cannot be completed before Year 2 at a minimum
chrome cedar
I was talking to minerva about that the other day
that CC bundle is brutal
yet fun
usually it gets kinda boring after completing the normal CC
frozen orchid
I can't speak to SVE as I don't use it, and personally don't plan to as it's not my style (also I've been using Karmylla's maps forever and I'm not giving those up)
chrome cedar
i just wished karmylla's could be played alongside IF2R
woven lance
wait there's COMMUNITY CENTER BUNDLE OVERHAUL?
chrome cedar
ye
woven lance
that's bizzare, my caps turned on when my headphones connected
didnt notice until i sent
last sorrel
So I downloaded the stuff from bakers life and I have a bunch of errors
woven lance
wish i knew about that overhal before i completed most packs lol
last sorrel
Like everything to do with SVE is an error
woven lance
SVE causes issues
if you want to use a lot of other mods, just dont SVE
friends dont let friends SVE with tons of other mods
chrome cedar
im playng with around 230 mods with SVE
woven lance
you've gotten lucky then
last sorrel
oof I love SVE so i was hoping I could use this too
chrome cedar
it's about fixing the errors and installing the mods properly
and installing if they are only updated
last sorrel
@chrome cedar teach me your ways
split lotus
some mods are not compatible with SVE though for multiople reasons
chrome cedar
yeah, but baker's life shouldn't be a problem
white schoonerBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
last sorrel
sweet thanks
chrome cedar
"All items start with the word "Baker's" to prevent any potential conflicts. There is a text file included in the mod with instructions on how to make everything."
woven lance
also apparently SVE is pretty heavy as far as resources go
chrome cedar
maybe something with the files
split lotus
yeah, that's a "may matter depending on how potato your computer is" Thing
last sorrel
ok I'mma try that then
toxic ridge
I don't get the reason for the errors except CFAutomate https://smapi.io/log/c20ebf69065a4d3b88a81b58bc380548
chrome cedar
send the log though, here they will help with errors on the mods
frozen orchid
!stardust
white schoonerBOT
Stardust core is a dependency for Omegasis' Happy Birthday and Stardew Symphony mods. The newest version is missing some necessary files. To fix it:
- Install version 2.4.1 from the Old Files section (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2341?tab=files).
- Rename the
Contentfolder toModAssets. - Reinstall the newest version (2.5.0). On Windows, choose to overwrite the old files; on MacOS, hold down the option key and choose
Merge.
frozen orchid
For the Stardust Core one
dire fractal
holy fuck, how long will it take to fix stardust
split lotus
@toxic ridge Update your modfs, too
you ahve a lot of "could use upgrade" notifs
one of those may fix the farm map issue
woven lance
yeah why is there even a need for a bot message for stardust why isnt it just fixed? that seems pretty easy to fix on the backend
toxic ridge
@split lotus Most of them don't have new updates like Rapthalias NPC Mod, Shikos NPC Mod, BFAV Fennec Foxes and the GG Ace has just an error
chrome cedar
no, many mods don't have updated
i've checked on the forums and other sites as well
and smapi anyways asks you to find an unexisting update
split lotus
At the very least: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4021?tab=files can be updated
I'm only spot checking two of them, too.
Please.. please do not ignore the update notifs.
Anyway, the specific erroring is .. hm. IF2R and..
one of fellowclown's mods
split lotus
@last sorrel - Even More Recipes for JsonAssets 1.5.8 because it requires mods which aren't installed (ppja.artisanvalleymachinegoods).
toxic ridge
Raphtalia has a manifest error, I already have the new version, but I can update Denver, Lyell and Farmer to Florist
split lotus
bleh, I cna't find IF2R's page
supple sparrow
Is... Is this where to post for mod help on using mods? I'm sorry, I'm new, so I'm unsure.
split lotus
Yes
@dire fractal Quick question, you might know: https://smapi.io/log/c20ebf69065a4d3b88a81b58bc380548 has two missing tilesheets somewhere. Is there a fix for this up somewhere I'm not seeing?
supple sparrow
I'm actually having trouble with if2r for sve because it suddenly broke via config file not working. I can get on to post the specific error code, but it literally will not load the map anymore. Not for new files even, which it was working prior.
And literally have found no one with similar issues so I'm at wits end, lmao.
split lotus
!log
white schoonerBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
viscid pond
LF2R is downloaded from the SVE page, it's an optional file
split lotus
oh.
viscid pond
they probably need to re-install it
split lotus
That should make sense, considering IF2 is no longer supported
viscid pond
Flashsifter remade it for SVE
dire fractal
Sorry, I'm bad with TMXL/maps in general
supple sparrow
The one I downloaded was through the sve page, btw. I'll grab the log.
split lotus
Oh.
Yeah, you can update one mod
apparently it's formatted such that it formats weird
dire fractal
but I can see fellowclown in that TMXL error
split lotus
Yeah, I'm just not sure which one of his it is
supple sparrow
https://smapi.io/log/2d8e2d7de4d84fbe83216ca63db599e9 for whenever anyone who can help has a chance. I can wait. x-x;
split lotus
First:
frozen orchid
Update your mods
frozen orchid
There's a lot that need updated
Second: could you upload the config for IF2R to this link:
!json
white schoonerBOT
JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files, often used by Stardew Valley mods. If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to https://smapi.io/json, view an automatic validation summary on that page, and share the link with others.
viscid pond
Also, uninstall Looking For Love, it's not compatible with SVE
supple sparrow
People have gotten it to work if they disable Wizzy and Sandy.
Which was really the only reason why. xD
last sorrel
So i updated that one single mod and I still see errors in the mod menu
toxic ridge
@split lotus Could It be that IF2R ain't working because of the different content.json I use?
proud arrow
ty
dire fractal
@ Sak, I think it is John
toxic ridge
It worked before tho. I downloaded the modified from the github page of SVE because I'm using seasonal farmhouse and such
dire fractal
That's the only mod that has Forest.tbin
split lotus
mm.
chrome cedar
- BathHouseRoom because its manifest has no EntryDll or ContentPackFor field; must specify one.
how can i fix that one?
split lotus
Where did you get it from?
last sorrel
is there a discord for stardew valley expanded
dire fractal
there is a subreddit
split lotus
Nope, just a reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValleyExpanded/
devout pumiceBOT
r/StardewValleyExpanded
split lotus
You might want to move the SVE questions there
because.. frankly, I'm not sure what's wrong with the content.json there
supple sparrow
Wait, me? It's hard to follow who anyone is talking to on here. x-x;
viscid pond
is it content.json or config.json?
restive zodiac
@toxic ridge Possibly - I thought I modified it to be the most recent version but I remember I was having trouble posting it from all my internet problems, so if the link is still old one it would be based on wrong one
supple sparrow
I'm working on updating the things.
viscid pond
it's the config.json that's throwing errors
restive zodiac
(It is a simple edit to make changes to the most recent version but I can't look at it right now)
viscid pond
they can delete that and generate a new one
restive zodiac
The old version didn't have a config though
last sorrel
I think its workign actually? Thanks for the help ya'll I'mma try and see if Ican talk to the developer of SVE
restive zodiac
So if they used an old content.json, those options would not work
viscid pond
ahh
restive zodiac
(Flash didn't do that part of IF2R just to clarify, I did)
supple sparrow
The config file is actually the cause of issue why I'm here, for the map IF2R is basically, but through the SVE downloads page that I had gotten it. If it is in fact the other mods that are breaking it, I'll get to it, but it keeps saying the config isn't a valid json
toxic ridge
nvm Its not the different content.json the error is still the same
restive zodiac
If it's not mine it's not my fault :P
toxic ridge
Well even If I remove IF2R I still get an error from SVE meh
last sorrel
hey ya'll Im back for a different mod question
split lotus
42
last sorrel
So do yany of you have elle's seasonal buildign mod?
plucky field
think so ye
split lotus
I do, I think
restive zodiac
Elle's buildings are best buildings
supple sparrow
elle is a damn magician with art.
last sorrel
awesome! How do you guys get different buildings?
Like I have a new farm house but it's not white
split lotus
I'm super lazy and just use the default settings
supple sparrow
Is it CP? Or is it in .xnb?
last sorrel
CP
supple sparrow
I feel like either something is conflicting with it, or something is breaking it. Or both.
restive zodiac
Yeah, we don't recommend any mods that ask you to overwrite xnb files in the Content folder. You can do a patch summary to see what's applying or not.
!patchsummary
white schoonerBOT
Can you do these steps to provide more info?
- Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
- Type
patch summarydirectly into the SMAPI window and press enter. - Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
- Post the log link here.
supple sparrow
I definitely would not, either. I'm sad when half of these mods I DO want aren't CP and I just slips it to remind self if there is ever CP added in another folder elsewhere
dire fractal
(you can only configure your farmhouse's exterior if it had two upgrades when using elle's buildings)
lapis void
might already be solved but the tmx issue someone was having with lyell is most likely bc they need to update, he's the one who patches the forest
restive zodiac
I think someone mentioned that further up, but not sure if they tried it, I was just skimming back on mobile and saw I might have broken a thing and was checking that :D
last sorrel
here is my new log: https://smapi.io/log/f566e44e61354e1fb921312bf2b63f3d
restive zodiac
I remember clown having accidently left references to sve sheets before but seems so long ago, must be very out of date 
lapis void
yeah, the patch for houses isn't being applied mocha--i don't use elle's buildings but sounds like it may not apply until you upgrade the house?
velvet schooner
hey i've never modded before-
dire fractal
(space left eemie's inside customise exterior, discovered today) :P
velvet schooner
do i download the SMAPI from the nexus or direct?
dire fractal
he was like oops
velvet schooner
alright thank you
restive zodiac
Remind me never to do a patch summary with ja and friends installed, oof
The price of custom tokens
restive zodiac
That sounds right... :D
velvet schooner
i'm going off the wiki, what does it mean by "Extract the folder?"
restive zodiac
@velvet schooner It means unzip it, take the whole installer folder out of the zip
split lotus
@toxic ridge Oh?
toxic ridge
@split lotus After I literally removed every mod in steps, its the NPC John Mod
velvet schooner
oohh so just move it elsewhere?
split lotus
huh
restive zodiac
Did you do all the updates you needed to do, Mitsuna?
last sorrel
thanks for the help ya'll
restive zodiac
@velvet schooner Yep! You can move it to your desktop or wherever and run the installer from there.
last sorrel
can any of you reccommend interior mods?
velvet schooner
okay, thank you, @restive zodiac!
last sorrel
yeah or new ish looking stuff
restive zodiac
ATDSDV is the biggest and most up to date, not even sure there is another that would be functional in 1.4+
chrome cedar
@keen moss got a question, the Home of Abandoned Mods works for the current patch?
keen moss
Yes
last sorrel
What is the name of that mod specifically?
chrome cedar
downloading
last sorrel
ATDSDV
chrome cedar
@last sorrel A Toned Down Stardew Valley
toxic ridge
@restive zodiac I updated before but only removing the John NPC Mod, the Farm.tbin Error and the CP Crash from IF2R is gone.
supple sparrow
Hey, is stardust having issues atm?
restive zodiac
!stardust
white schoonerBOT
Stardust core is a dependency for Omegasis' Happy Birthday and Stardew Symphony mods. The newest version is missing some necessary files. To fix it:
- Install version 2.4.1 from the Old Files section (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2341?tab=files).
- Rename the
Contentfolder toModAssets. - Reinstall the newest version (2.5.0). On Windows, choose to overwrite the old files; on MacOS, hold down the option key and choose
Merge.
supple sparrow
Thanks.~
Is... Is 2.4.1 the last listed file? Because the last listed file is 2.2.1
restive zodiac
Nexus lists old files in stupid order, just look for that exact version.
supple sparrow
There isn't one of that version title, that's why I had to ask.
Not unless it's like, under descriptions or something.
thorn needle
I’m gonna start a modded save for the first time. Can anyone suggest some good mods? I’m already thinking about Stardew Valley Expanded, Tractor Mod and Automate Mod. (Do these all work together?)
supple sparrow
oh, i found it, nvm.
I feel like Imma have to forego IF2R, because despite everything else being up to date(even tho is keeps saying it's not, i just downloaded every mod on the list provided), everything else now not conflicting, IF2R is STILL having issues because of the config.json not being a valid json for some weird reason.
strange vine
hmm that's odd
config should be automatically generated
try deleting it and rerun the game
hot ivy
How do I set up mods on my MacBook?
strange vine
ah yw Sharcc! glad it worked!
I'm assuming the same way as with PC but a different file path to the Stardew Valley folder
hot ivy
okay cool thanks was just trying to get a second word because last time it didn’t work for me. But I’ll give it another go 🙂
supple sparrow
Some mods actually have an entirely different subfolder i think dedicated to macoxs or something. I never needed to delve into that personally (and always had been confused why it been there until i finally understood what it was for) but thought it might be helpful to add.
And yeesss, anna. Now I can play after wanting to tear out my hear for about 5 hours, lmao. How can a config file do this? My boyfriend definitely has patience to be in IT and to enjoy programming as he does. x-x;
strange vine
I have no idea lol but basically the "invalid json" thing just means there's code in it that it doesn't know how to read right
which usually means a little error in syntax or something
or a missing comma >_>
restive zodiac
@supple sparrow Those folders get ignored by SMAPI and should just be deleted. (The macosx ones)
supple sparrow
@supple sparrow Those folders get ignored by SMAPI and should just be deleted. (The macosx ones)
@restive zodiac I learned that! I did delete them eventually when I finally got what they were. xD
restive zodiac
It's like when mods come with desktop.inis and such things, hidden system files that the author doesn't realize they're including
shakes fist at junk files
strange vine
haha yeah
split lotus
makes sure to have CoF add twenty-thousand junk files
(actually, Lunar Disturbances still had a bunch of CoF junk files. <_<)
velvet schooner
hey SMAPI isn't working to download
my computer tends to be dumb so it's probably an easy fix but idk how,,
restive zodiac
@velvet schooner When you say to download, do you mean you can't download the installer from the website, or the installer itself isn't working? (Or a mod?)
velvet schooner
installer itself, it downloaded just fine from the website
dire fractal
uh oh... Yellog's Wood Craftables wasn't the reason why the mini-jukebox was invisible...
I tried running my farm without that mod, got the mini-jukebox cutscene, it's invisible
restive zodiac
@velvet schooner What happens when you try to run the installer? (Are you on Windows, by the way?)