#creative-discussion
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When I was looking at the surfaces, yeah you had to pay for the pen separately
depending on the model, that's going to be the case with some of the 2 in 1s
But when I got my Dell, it came with the pen, thankfully, so that was ez enough
Also looking at the huion site, it looks like they sell artist gloves on there for super cheap (less than 10 usd)
squitns
one of which is a cool skeleton one that i really want olsjdkflksdf
WOW KEYSMASH
but damn, the stand coming separately would make sense imo but the pen coming separate is stupid when it's just a tablet
unless that's a special pen?
reading is hard.jpg
the pen slim seems to be a specialty pen design
same with pro pen
okay the pen is included

i had to look at customer reviews
i paid 20 usd for mine
maybe closer to 15 usd
yeah it was 16.99 usd and came with 2
mm there's this 2 pack for 25
oh dang
yours is better
lemme see ifi can find it
i'm checking out the seller that i got my screen protectors from
they range in price from 12-30 usd it looks like, so i would definitely say 25 is not a bad price for 2
i feel like i'm adopting a child or something
it kinda does feel like that LMAO
but the more i read about it the more i do want to buy one
i mean, i will not be able to buy anything at all next month
but hey
i'll have a new baby
it's so worth it, my drawing speed increased significantly once i got used to it
also it may not seem like stabilizer helps a lot at first, but once your hand readjusts to it, the difference is still stagggering
*staggering
and heckie yeah new baby \o/
the negative things i'm seeing about cintiq are things i do not care about
my monitor isn't 4k so i don't care, i don't mind not using the touch screen and god gave us laps so we don't need tablet stands
but i am gonna keep digging into it just to see like, everything about it
i don't want to drop 650 on something and it turns out it sucks
i don't blame you
but with cintiq, i believe they do come with a warranty? or it's at least optional
for the price you're paying, it better come with a warranty, anyway
yeah you can buy a warranty
it might come with a warranty automatically let me see
you have to buy the warranty yeah
damn
how much more is it?
60 bucks for a 3 year protection plan
oh that's not too bad
i was worried it'd be something closer to like 200usd for two years
that was the warranty plan i had to pay for
oh wait wacom brand it automatically comes with 1yr warranty
ok glad i poked further
oh that's not bad then!
but you can buy a 3 or 4 year protection plan
yeee
dang that's a high warranty
but really for stuff to not go wrong i think it can be good to pay it
if something goes quickly wrong apparently you find out within the first month, at least from the experience of my friends
but hopefully they fixed a lot of the initial issues they had
i hope so!
good luck with your purchase and hope it goes well for you! 
thanks! and thank you both for your inputs
my current tablet isn't giving me any trouble but i've been able to save up money and it's a purchase i've wanted to make for a while so i was looking into it
no problem! it's definitely a worthwhile purchase imo
it makes the entire process so much easier and softer on the wrist
Guys do I need to post sdv stuff to get artisan
yes! you need:
"Given if you are level 25 and have your work posted by Artisan Leah in addition to being active and friendly. Please ask for this role if you feel you qualify, but sometimes it's added in waves as well."
Leah only posts SDV-related works that are posted in #creative (a mod will manually have to add them gradually, so give it time!)
#old-welcome has more information on other roles if you need!
gonna try to make something sdv related (its a lot easier to draw existing designs) but who or what should i draw? my farmer is an option but i dont wanna open the game for a reference
Basically anything sdv related is good
ye but which one i cant decide
does anyone know if krita is even somewhat compatible with a surface pen
because i cant get pressure settings to work
im really comfortable with krita and dont want to change programs
you mean a screen pen for the Microsoft surface?
yea
Yeah it should be fully compatible.
You may have to change Krita's settings to make it work, notably the Tablet Settings section. There's an option that changes the "Tablet Input API". Make sure you have the right API chosen for that according to your version of Windows. Other than that, just make sure your Surface is fully updated.
@tranquil comet

Does the art have to be related to sdv to get into the art gallery?
yes @jolly swan it does! but you can post whatever art you want, just only sdv art gets pinned
Ok thanks jade!
np np
I gotta draw more my my motivation is at an all time low. 
question for folks here:
- do u have instagram and use it for art
- if so what is ur experience
aw destin ):
You can do it destin
Honestly, if the motivation is just not there then don't force it
I have an Instagram and use it for art. I find it easier since you can reach more people than on Twitter thanks to the prominent usage of hashtags in comparison. It's also meant to be an image site, so the audience is more inclined to appreciate it than on some other social media.
You'll just end up not enjoying it and probably not liking the result
I just want him or her to feel better
Thank you, friends.
I was looking at palettes for ideas but when I go to draw I just can't bring myself to do it.
Sometimes you do have to force it to get out of a rut of just feeling down. Warm ups and random sketches can go a long way.
Just a suggestion here you could do something easy to boost your motivation
ty rio, i was told the art community there is pretty small but honestly i hate twitter, my inspiration for tumblr is on and off, and we all know what deviantart was like. i was thinking of posting my art all together in a place that puts emphasis on images
maybe watch some art videos destin, i've been doing that and it gave me some inspo and i had fun drawing from stock photos
Tbh I've been thinking of vamping up my artstation
And ooo art videos is really good as a suggestion
art station is waaaaaaaay too professional for me and every time i look there, it's only art gods, so i am intimidated to say the least
The only art related app I have is pixl art I'm better at pixl art than anything

I used to use Twitter but I got tired of all the pointless things that would show up in my feed. And all the weird things people I followed retweeted. 
That's fair, it can be intimidating
I'll look at some art videos, thank you for the suggestion.
my friends swear up and down that they do not see political twitter with how they have things
but for me, whenever something happens, it's all i freaking see
i can't use twitter when stuff is happening, which is constantly
because twitter enjoys misery
True, true
I agree very much. It was annoying to keep trying to remove it from my feed.
I just wanna draw and be happy. 
Hey can collabs also be put on art gallery?
yeah just be sure to credit the other person/link to them
and you have to be the other collab person
You have to be the other collab person?
yeah "the art is by me and [insert person here]" that's all i mean
Oh ok
wip of my farmer uwu
i have an artstation that i stopped using once i realized i dont wanna go into concept art anymore... to add to the previous discussion lmao
i absolutely do not put my thirsty man art on there... pfft
give us ur thirsty man art
i have been ; - ; lmao
thank you! :))
maybe a bit late but it can be nice to get like one specific sort of thing to fall back on when you run out of ideas
often it's an OC or such
just make your default reaction to "I don't know what to draw" be to draw this thing
yeah, i've got a few of those qwq
I always end up drawing my oldest ocs when I can't figure out what to do
i draw either xion from kingdom hearts, my OC aya, or my OC rukure
they're my go-tos when it comes to playing favorites
Can't wait to do redraws, there are like 30?? Wew a long way to go
I should do more redraws but a lot of my old art is fandoms I'm not really into anymore sooo
Also I wanna do some fan arts for the games I played
I plan doing a gift for an artist that was born in the same month as me but anatomy aaaa
I have enough time till January to figure out something
@unkempt tinsel Sorry for the ping, but you seem to be the junimo that hangs around here the most. What do you think of getting a SDV Drawpile set up for this server? Could pin the link or something.
i know nothing about drawpile
is there much to it
It's a digital art program, but collaborative. We can all share a canvas.
There are a few community-run hosts that can allow us to have our own room, from what I can tell.
ohh i've used something similar (whiteboard) its a lot of fun
So there's just a slight difficulty. Half the community hosting servers don't seem to work, or are otherwise not themed appropriately for us (couple of furry-dedicated ones and some adult-only hosts), and Drawpile's own hosting service automatically ends any empty sessions.
drawful and skribbl are fun group art games too
Drawful is amazing
i don't have the internet to really host a server either
I have a question- I am making a mod where there is a "secret" (you have to notice there is a ladder) hot spring under the farm cave, and I would like to use a tileset other than the dirt-cave vibe of the farm cave map for the hot spring area, ideally one of the existing tilesets, but there aren't many of those that would work for an underground environment. I would like feedback on the idea of using this tileset from the desert dark mine. Not the really fancy bits, just the stone brick walls.
Too fancy for the farm? Too much of a color shift from the normal cave?
i think the walls could work, but if you wanted to edit them to be a bit of a darker color i think that could work
It's going to be pretty dark in the room anyway, but yeah, I was thinking a darker color might be necessary.
Maybe a bit more red-brown from the normal cave.
Alternatively, if rough and dark is good, I could just use this one:
Not sure if that would make for a pleasant hot spring experience, though.
I'm adding candles...
out of the two i do think i prefer the brick!
I think I do, too. And unless there are large seismic shifts, it would hold up better than the above-ground stuff. Okay, gonna try that. Thanks!
np np 
perfume bottle?
yes, good, so that's enough I need to do with it
i might increase the contrast a little bit, but it looks good!
anyone in here have instagram? i made one so i am happy to follow
Yes but not posting a lot + its dutch
rip 
yesss
mine is mirax3163 @unkempt tinsel
i basically just repost all the stuff i post in here but there might be some cat pics in there lmao
yay!!
Oo what's your IG @unkempt tinsel mine is potato.bunsu 
mine's magicallyclueless, i'm gonna post some stuff then go to bed tho!
i followed ya
followed 
same
yaaaas
I need to post here more but i literally forget to my adhd has been so bad since i stopped my medication ssdhjjff
Ive been revamping characters π₯Ί
i feel u
Ive been just using ai dungeon for my ocs cause i cant write for shit
That and im lazy
ai dungeon sounds interesting elaborate πππ
Its just a free text adventure generator
beep beep
Beep boop it's a joop
Great work! It looks so smooth 
wip for artfight
I like it!!
finished version!! :)
BEAUTIFUL
thank you!! :)
i love the colours so much
its like,,,cool but warm
i think thats very swag
the lighting??? yolo
the power of overlays, my friend
ikr
ive done 32 attacks this artfight, and seeing as its my first year, im pretty happy with it
I love how you do shading,, it feels so soft when you look at it :βo
Feedback appreciated:)
the pond and trees are not very detailed bc i want to make em loose and only use guidelines
everything looks really good but the feet look like they don't align with the ground, by that I mean the feet does not look like they are on top of the ground it looks like they are half way through the ground
I think it's cuz it's a pond/water
^^
ah
its a pond, shes sitting halfway in the watter
ah now it makes sense, So everything is really good
her feet look a little long, but other than that, it all looks good
can't wait to see it fully coloured
It might just be me but she doesn't look very relaxed if that's what you're going for bc she's all close together
but as usual it does look sick af
shes actually supposed to look tense/sad
thats why her facial expression is more serious if yk what i mean
ok then she totally does if that's what you were going for
anything i can fix?
Not that I can see!

spaaaaaaaaaaaaace
I've no idea what I'm doing
i wanna know if the braids look wonky wkebsd
tbh if her hair looks wacc in general
looks good! altho maybe the braid should be less curled inwards and pointing more down?
hmm fair fair
Her braid needs to give her ear a wider berth, it doesn't have enough space behind the neck to curve into that shape
oh, that too. good catch
3 attacks in one day, i am on a roll
thank you! qwq
@rustic plume i love ur style ; A ;
i dream of having clean lineart like that xD
and ur commissions open ehhh π
clean sketches? We bow to u
its still so clean and i love the way u do faces
thenks!! huhuhu
i found an old wip of one of my bastards and im just staring at the face like
why is this better than most my faces nowdays
i think it's amazing detail personally, great work!
thanks
np, i really like how you use reds also
sigh i feel like a huge goofball i spent a good 30 minutes trying to find out why my pen tablet wouldnt let me draw any lines when i was able to use every other tool. i open and closed the program several times and even reinstalled the driver when i FINALLY discovered i had the blur tool selected this whole time π
me too! i was really perplexed
@marsh current Athina xD. Is my alter ego
Thank uuu
im happy
https://toyhou.se/6276577.milky-the-cat i won this bb from a raffle today
i love them
so fucking cute
V adorable.
CUUUUTE
Anu belore dela'na!
cough cough I mean uhh, I tried to sketch the blood elves symbol so yeah
Ima add more details and render it
still great
hah I bet
i have posted it here before
WOW

i had troubles drawing it at first
i tend to draw shape really big and short
i guess i just drawing it assume it is close
took me a few retry while working on it
Dude what the hell
That's so good
The Practise it took you to get up to that level
I stan
i made that improve meme long ago
was quite cringe
but i did proud
well thanks, but i did this before i even do practice regularly
that one took me 28 days
but i can draw it faster now
i think
now now, lol
lmao jk
very nice.

10/10 would sell my kidneys to protect her
AW 
How could this be improved pixlart for mobile doesn't have a good coffee colour or any good wood colours
dithering and adjusting the opacity of the steam imo
also using a color that isn't black for the lines
but then again idk the restrictions considering i've never used nor plan to use pixlart
What would you rate it on a scale of 1 through 10
i don't feel comfortable rating artwork considering the fact that it's all different and up to the perspective of the viewer
so while it may not be 100% gucci by me, it can be to someone else
but
it's not symmetrical in the base line artof the mug (evident by the top corners of the coffee in the mug)
and while i like the color red, it feels like....too striking? to me
and like
idk there's no base for the mug
even just a repeating pattern for the bg would work better
a start
Looking good
@jolly swan I would say play with the outline color or add some shading on the mug/coffee to make it look less flat and simple. and I think a more muted/less bright background color would be easier on the eyes.
i would also put the steam above the coffee mug and not touching it and play with a more dynamic overall shape for the steam
mech is already hard, and my friend asked for a transform one ...
damn nice
:0c
animation
also ya'll art so nice the fuck
i didnt plan on drawing today but i turned my laptop on lmao

same
@glacial fox what are you hoping to do in the future? Besides sketching rofl
well mainly an illustrator with some design skill
for my other hobby it would be a manga artist
Neato
maybe animator on the side as well
i also think about picking up 3D as well
but haven't find any excuse to use it yet
What do you think about doing commissions?
i am thinking about doing it in the next few months
actually i can try now if anyone ask

Wew
i haven't sort out the price, reason why i haven't start
but i can try negotiation if anyone interest right now
even if it is something i am not good at
i can easily get better within a few days at it
aint lying honestly
well depends actually
if it is anatomy then oof
I do believe you can do some great job with it tho
I;d like some opinions
I hate colouring blonde hair a lot and idk which one looks nicer
How about a midway between the two?
hmm wdym
Like for me the first one is too yellow but the second is too washed out so if you took a color that's in between?
Yeah!
OOH LOOKS PRETTY AF YOU GO FROG
frog can't wait to see it finiiiished
evangelion
kaworu babyyyyy
he looks so good!!!
the demon waifu harem
must be cooking pancakes
ooooooh v nice
whyaretheynotreferredtoascrepes
because pancakes and crepes are different, duh
a crepe is just a pancake omlet
lol kinda
i'm making an oc reference sheet that i'm going to be using when i commission another artist
and i was wondering
do y'all think that three full bodies and two headshots is enough? the three full bodies would have different outfits
Does anyone have advice for making an oc character sheet
need an opinion on the tiles, is the lighter one or the darker one better? lighter is in top left
afaik having a palette list (like the primary colors for the oc) is good
i prefer unshaded references, especially if there's no palette list, but some people do shading and that's up to you tbh which you would prefer
having alternate outfits that the character will be seen in is a good idea, too, to give more variation to the character and show more of their personality
i like the lighter one more
also!!! do headshots with varied expressions!! or varied hairstyles if they have any
I like the lighter one more
alr cause everyone is kinda split 50/50 on which one lol
Also thanks for the advice
i might use the darker as background with some edits
no probs!
and i can see the border sticking out more but at the same time, the darkness is too...ill-fitted, imo? like it looks more like it gives depth and casts shadow onto the path with the lighter areas being raised up rather than the opposite effect with the top left one
i think that's just a consequence of the top right style in general
at least for me only the top right one looks like the border/middle are elevated from the rest
i feel like if that had lighter colors it would still look elevated
with all of it lighter
idk the lighter colors show depth appropriately
like the inner squares are darker to show texture
and the border is lighter to show that it's slightly raised from the main path
oh damn that looks nice
also made a smol mistake haha
oh crap i forgot how much a pain these are to import into unity
ty
thought i might share this incase it helps anyone.
@rustic plume nice 
Does anyone have advice for making an oc character sheet
@lament turtle like for funsies and cataloguing, DnD, or..?
because for funsies the easies way is to ask yourself "What's the most basic stuff that I wanna know from a person?" and you can start from there. after that it's just expanding what you want to highlight abt that character/s.
the usual are: name, age, birthday (if any), sex/gender, description, and sometimes a wee bit of basic background for the character (if any).
some people (like me) go the extra mile and go for ethnicities/species, hobbies, personality, likes and dislikes, abilities/powers or weapons, face claims, voice claims, etc. if all else fails, there are a lot of character sheets that can be ised as a reference online for the hell of it
It's good to start with the basics too. Name, age, gender, sexuality, ect. Once you set up the basics then you can start planning out more detailed things with them.
Thanks for the advice! Iβm still figuring out all of this stuff, and Iβll take anything I can get.
Here's a link to a highly detailed character sheet, if you're interested.
https://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/writers/extremely-detailed-character-sheet-template/t.39274769/
Gaia Online is an online hangout, incorporating social networking, forums, gaming and a virtual world.
Iβll check it out!
man that is one serious long form to fill out
It's a secretary's nightmare
Hi! Is there a distinct style to the sprites in Stardew Valley? I want to know because I want to make a custom npc.
today stupid idea 
I love it
Thanks! I'll be sure to use it.
Itβs all coming together villain laugh
He better be cooking pancakes
Iβll do you one better: chocolate pancakes
i like how you put the color and shading so perfectly
Ty 
This is a piece for artfight! i cant decide if I should i post the one with or without the sunlight. some extra opinions would be nice! 
forgot how to render oof
I absolutely love both but some of the colours get mixed and muddled in the second one @urban nexus maybe turn down the opacity? But I love the first one
some of the colours get mixed and muddled in the second one
@viral herald I agree! i'll try lowering the opacity but i might just go with # 1. Thank you!
I think if itβs just a soft glow it would look incredible tho so I hold hope for yo
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i have so many mixed feelings about this game
On one hand, itβs waifu galore
On the other hand, they call (whatβs clearly a crepe) a pancake
eeeeeeaAaaaaaa
which game? also you art is askdnjasjdnajns quality as usual nathex
Helltaker
aaa ive been hearing about that everywhere i should check it out
the story is literally some buff dude had a dream about having a harem of demon girls so he went to hell to get himself a harem of demon girls
The most amazing 1 and a half hours of my life lmao
spongebobβs romantic interest
Ima draw more spongebob characters
Seems like fun
My old attempt on Sandy haha
I can feel the cartoonish style flowing through my veins
@nimble imp dude i showed my bf your helltaker art and he said it's fucking rad
uu uu m this is jsut a wip but yehahaha
ooh looks great
thats very good!!!
skskskkskss EO GOOD
love it
You are very good wtf
Eye candy
vsco girl
I really like the eye
Cool art

thhtanankcyouu
And the neck bones, lol basically I like the entire thing
cool
you got this 
loook sgood so far!!!!!!
Sketched a friend's OC. Its not a massive drawing but it keeps me sharpish.
been working on some concept painting stuff
i love how much a few lines can change a piece
So I need help.... This was supposed to be one of these lights for a tv Studio, but magical.... It's weird...
whats it for?
ye! my instagram and tumblr handle are both keluturtle ! c:
hello all! I'm new to pixel art, and I'm using GIMP to make a little water bottle in SDV. Does the label look ok? It looks wonky to me, like the shades are a little off (maybe too dark?) and not in line with the palette of the rest of the bottle, but I'm not sure how to fix it. If you have suggestions, please explain them to me like I'm 5, because I'm new to this 
You are only 5 y old??? Wow, this is good as it is, no lies, at least from my view, maybe darken the upper contour of the bottle a little more, wish I could help you more but I don't do pixel art, oof.
it looks neat! although the colors are a bit close together
for example
the bottom one is more ideal
it also switches the hue and saturation versus just the value
oh, ya I used the built-in GIMP "colorizer" feature and let it run havok LOL (and no I'm not actually 5, it's just the "explain it to me like I'm 5" expression π)
Oooh lmao, I was like daaamn boi, for 5 years old he also explains themselves so well too, kek
i hope you guys like it
i spent 128938123 hours on it 
i like your handwriting
It's so neat
Got recommended this on youtube... It's really neat.
The first official casting update for the Voices of the Valley project is here! Take a listen to demos from a few of our cast voice actors and get up-to-date with how you can volunteer for the project by watching the video. Credits and links found below!
CCC project page: ht...
doing a thing
found this randomly, I forgot I made it
You do give more attention to details now, great improvement
not done but whatever
I LIKE THE THING

πππ Bi Pride πππ
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Btw I'm using my OCs for this little pride series so don't question their weird ass designs pls
I'm still taking suggestion on what to draw next for pride so feel free to comment!
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#pridemonth #pridedrawing #bipride #bisexualpride #pridemonth #prideart ...
Whoaaa
This piece looks so great
Also nice job Nae
They look at them selves then they make pixel art of themselves
floating torso what will they do
drawing legs and arms is such a huge pain in my ass
draw rocket boosters instead of legs Akira 
does it look weird i feel like it looks weird
rhthehghrhfhghrhfhdheheh COMBUST
ththnankcyou
i can't believe i make the shadow and form all on 1 layer 
you can make a clipping mask to make it easier (if you're using photoshop)
i already did a clipping
thats what i do for all my shading
i just dont know how ahir works
well
look for art with similar styles and try to do similar
or look for real hair or some what a bit less real hair and try to make it in an easier style to fit your
you only need ref to get the idea of where light , shadow and strokes work
yeah thats what im gonna do rn
very epic
@glacial fox do you..... do this professionally or..... like concept art or anything...
p e c s
are they also buff shirtless guys? ;)
i like fish π³
even with the border flowers?
yes!
but i think it would fit even better if its like, sea roses or something?
i dunno how you wanna color it, that rlly depends
sea... roses,
Roses?
like u mean the color?
I was planning light pink
Cuz her hair is blue water
blinks bc i forgot the name
Like blue hair, light yellow background, pink flowers
hello may i simp
@spiral gale aowwy for ping but like... I donβt know, i wanted to make the fish black so having them be little rosey flowers sounds more... delicate than lilies
u may
and ye that sounds rad izzy, im not good w colors so ill rather keep out of that, but ping me when youre done, ye?
your ideas are better lmao
i tried @tropic halo

Especially since youre not using a stylus
finger painting is hard, I just ordered a stylus from amazon
@spiral gale will do!
@ember zealot yes as you know im incapable of drawing anything else 
the screens a bit old but im lazy lmao
@lament turtle i like the fish in the hair, maybe a few small flowers in there too? i like the lilypad flower idea
but also the roses idea is nice tpo
psh I'm not complaining π³
lmaooo
I got my first bee paper book and idk how to start with it 
it has a piece of what looks like vellum? separating the cover and the first page and i almost fucked up by drawing on that out of habit
i was not prepared for the responsibility of such a nice book
awww precious!!
@rich delta my sis got me one of them, I donβt know where to get them tho
i got mine at michael's
npnp!
@ember narwhal not sure i understand, it is just practice
That feel when you accidentally make the smile creepy, not cute.

oh ok thats what i was asking lol
all my smiles are creepy
Sighs into abyss I need to go out and get MORE copics ugh
Time to do some research beforehand and make sure I Know what I'm getting
tbh there are several not as expensive alternatives to copics
we sell them at my store
imagine being able too afford copics
right
Crayola markers are in my budget
Is this the right chat room for getting help on drawing my farmers? (Ive changed their design 4 times)
drawing? yeah
I hate to ask but can anyone help me? Itd be really aporeciated
just post your thoughts here and i'm sure someone will respond 
We always try our best 
Well i dont really have a single clue as to where to start
Start
im trying a black and white style rn and i think im doing OK considering how limiting that actually is
I have no clue how to make a head, hair, proportional body, nothing :(
you can start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4oPH0FMEB8
Drawing the Human Figure! - Proportions - Tutorial [PART I]
In this video we will look at some basic proportions for drawing the human figure in a simple mannequin form.
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danbeardshaw
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Facebo...
you just need to figure out the proportions first
Hey, I follow Dan as well, he is amazing :D
Can i send a picture of what i have? And i did use a frame i found online sadly
it looks good already
I just did something really stupid: i leaned back from taking the photo and i thought my phone slipped behind my back and i was looking to my left and right and then i realised it was in my hand
lmao
I traced that after googling criss cross
nice! google always got our backs
But i feel bad cuz i didnt make it?
Im taking a break from drawing until tomorrow
what I usually do is take a picture of myself in the position that I want to draw
then trace that picture
But i feel bad cuz i didnt make it?
@grizzled summit well you're still learning though
you'll improve with practice
I would do that but the only equipment is my phone and laptop, and im using my laptop to draw so i cant use that and i dont think my phone has a timer and i dont wanna burden other people with helping me
You can do traditionally still
Traditionally?
Pen and paper
^

To me, pencil and paper feels alot different than digital
I am still studying traditional and move further doing redraws and fan arts on digital, but yeah traditional is better to start with
totally different but has some similarities
I mean im im art class so we have done alot of pencil and paper
So i have a pretty decent understanding
There is never a time where you can say you learned enough
But if you feel confident that's ok
There is never a time where you can ssy you learned enough
@mighty bronze I back this up
there's always room for improvement
Im alot better making humans physically than digitally
But one reason why i went digital is quality
I feel like im bothering everyone and i apologize
Its fine, I enjoy talking about art stuff
Nah, you ask for help like we all do
I've always drawn traditional but I'm thinking about starting to draw digitally because it really seems so much cheaper than getting supplies all the time qwq
Point up ^
I have to use CSP and my tablet again
Tho you can get some really nice shades sketching just with the pen after more practice
I have a really hard time with everything, drawing the characters, drawing the environment in a way that looks good, and make it seem natural, like the character is in a 3/4 sitting pose, same with the chair, but i always make the chatacter natural while the chair is slightly off angle wise and it doesnt look rigt but i have no clue how
drawing something really amazing with just a pencil makes me feel more fufilled somehow? like no bashing digital art at all but there's a lot more tools whereas you take a pencil and you create something super cool makes me feel really proud of myself
For that you have to get a little taste of perspective
my perspective is jacked I can only draw left-facing 3/4 faces when I sketch now
How i do that is make a mental room and try to imagine characters and objects in the right place, which i succeed on that part, but when i try to draw that it doesnt work and the objects and angled slightly differently than the characters, and it just makes me feel horrible
Im not making this a mental thing
Drawing things in different angles helps
Kinda
maybe try doing the objects first? Or do a lot of sketching of them, like how people draw hands or feet or particular things over and over again to get them down pat
Not like the camera is in a corner, but the objects are angled
If that makes sense
ok neet, find the points of origin first then you'll be able to fix the angles
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this what I use when drawing architecturally
its kinda like sectioning the parts of the ray lines
The chair and character doesnt match up right
So it looks unnatural
And this is only for one of my farmers in stardew valley
Im trying to put all 4 versions into a single room interacting with eachother
you can either fix the chair or the character itself
are they in two separate layers?
if so, you can warp it to the correct angle
The diagram i just did?
no the drawing itself
Oh, well i dont have anything drawn yet because ive erased all my attempts
Like a stick figure?
Erasing things knowing you drew them wrong will help you improve faster
And positioning is just one of the problems ive got
Oh, a horizons point, got it
yup
from there you can get the general idea of angles
and how you would position them (characters)
I think ive got it down, thanks so much
sure happy to help!!!
I might need more help down the line
Thanks :)

how to draw like that wtf
@ember narwhal sorry for late response
are the alternatives also with replaceable nibs and tanks? because that's the major selling point to me when it comes to the copic sketch series
i've tried mutliple other brands but none of them gave the same effect or bled far too much
though i will say the only other one i did like was, despite how mainstream it is, prismacolor
they didn't have very good "soft" colors but dang did they have amazing vibrancy
like tbh i'm tempted to get more copic ciaos at this rate because while they sketch are nice for pastel effects, the ciao are cheaper and give a lot more bleed, and their refill tanks are more sustainable
and i hear you on cleaning them @_@ my poor dark red
so much use and abuse
damn i have so many pens but i dont do traditional anymore
i literally have an unused package with 12 pens for manga drawing
i get inspired from time to time to do traditional works
like there's one artist i follow who probably touches up their artwork digitally, which i don't blame them on, but holy shit the outcomes are beautiful
lemme fetch
Wdym by bleed? Also whats the concrete difference between the two
Bled as in went through the pages or spread out when you put the marker onto the paper like a puddle
Is usually what people mean when they are referring to markers
Ciao don't have as wide a range of color
So there will be some shades you just can't get
Unless you buy sketch that is
They can mix
Ciaos bleed a bit more imo but could be because of the alcohol point being kinda...broken in some of mine
Like I was using some yesterday and holy heck it actually leaked
So idk if I have to replace the whole marker at that point or it was my using it so much
But anyway yeah there are colorless blenders in both ciao and sketch
Ah okay so ciaos are just cheaper, less options available basically?
Yep
They're meant for children in Japan so they're also great for a beginner
But are they good in long term
I'm so sad rn tho bc the Ciaos are not of a wide selection here rn
They only have one out of the whole list I need
And yes
Artists like yoaihime that use mainly markers have a mix of both from what i seee
I follow ibu_chuan and usually they use sketch and sometimes another kind of marker for lining
Yee
That's what I was gonna do today but sad days
I can't because no availability
If you're buying online it's probs easier

the left pose looks like its styled for more of a anime style while the right pose looks like if you were trying to draw a realistic pose
actually i'd say right is also anime style pose though (I meant as in as far as i've seen in anime, it's like that)
the right pose is much more realistic though, try doing the poses yourself and youll find the right pose much more natural
^
the left one isnt inherently wrong esp with simple and stylised art but as far as anatomy goes the right is miles better
π
i mean, i know (and i agree that) right is miles better-
and also i meant "anime style" as in like, the things i've seen so far---
understandable
agreed
@glacial fox 
@shell notch 

ok, I see
First pose is the iconic "I can't draw hands" that most of us relate to 

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Hey anyone here knows how paypal works? (Bonus points for digital commissions)
whatchu need to know about it
i will be speaking from the experience of being american and operating through this
i mean the basics of using paypal is to keep your statements readily available where you know they'll be once tax time comes
always make sure your clients send the money for business/service, not "friends and family"
because then the tax is taken out right then and there, instead of you having to figure it out later on during tax time
also will you be using a business account or your personal account? because a business account can be used for things like an online store, too, so i definitely suggest it
but for just digital commissions, that can go either way
personal account. I just havent done anything with real money let alone paypal
Thank u already tho!
Its just something ill do every so often
I just dont know how it works and would rather die than fumble around when someone wants to buy something from me
I do know already to make sure they dont include an address, and what it means when i have a personal account and all
ohhh okay
so basically you just give your email to the client that you used for your paypal and then they send the money
you can also get their email for sending an invoice but i've never personally sent invoices myself
Oh!!! Ok cool!! Thanks
I also found the faq and now im like βjeez i couldve done this myselfβ
I may be stupid honestly
lmao it's okay
when you need that extra motivation from all of your idols
Working on another Shane
Anyone got tips on Anatomy
Man... I uploaded a picture to share and the quality dropped so much. 
dat chicken π³
Well I guess isn't bad for my first digital art (made with the finger on phone)
that's very nice! is that the protagonist square from Just Shapes and Beats?
And agreed with Uber, that's very well done for a drawing using a finger :0
Tch
Also great for Skull Cavern runs.
plop
@blissful sonnet
thank you

(WARNING! CONTENT CONTAINS FLASHY IMAGES.) Work in progress! Its a collab part I'm working on
I love it
How about? It's Welwick, well the version of this portrait that I'm making
Okay somebody help me with the eyes
Still needs quite a lot of work. did you use the circle tool to make the eyes?
Yep
You see, I reccomend using it only for a base, but not the finished version
unless you're trying to do it with the tool in question
I'm rather testing than really doing, I just don't get well with human anatomy
I see
But I really need some tips....
It's kind of hard to explain... well, firstly
the eyes should be wider length-wise, not height-wise
Uhhh.....
(not English native so expect not understanding some things)
So more to the sides?
well yeah, also looking at references is a good idea
if it's what you desire you can even trace from it, since you said you're testing
just make sure you say you traced
(not English native so expect not understanding some things)
what's your first language? JIC i can speak it as well...
Portuguese
i'm also brazilian
FINALY
i have chronic gay
Owwwn
I really like the way you do hair
Yout drawing is so cute
i dont even watch this anime
i CANT look at him straight my friends ruined me
everyone and their dog: my hero academia .. .. . .
me: ok
my friends, targeting ME and MY BAD TASTE specifically: hawks hawks hawks hawks
me: hrrgngngn..... my heroed academiaed.... .
πππ hawks... im more of a shiggy lover tho but yagami got me liking hawks a bit π
I'm trying to draw my farmer Rhys and I'm struggling with his hair
Sebastian's hair is pretty nice
I think what might help is thinking of hair as one shape and start by drawing one large chunk, then dividing them into the groups/strands!
That makes sense
Though I don't know if I can even make the shape of his hair look good
you can start with drawing the head and use that as a guideline!
oh nice! i guess since the reference is made of pixels its hard to imagine what that might look as a real hairstyle. have you looked for any photo references?
No, not sure if I could find any
there are many photos you can find online to study from; searching for hairstyle magazines or learning from your favourite artists works (just remember to ask/credit the source if you decide to share it online)
even if you cant find any, its still great to make an attempt so you can see where you can improve from there!
it looks great so far!
lol i still cant draw without em or the facial features go everywhere
I tried face mapping to see if my drawing would improve
Well, not saying it is bad to use them. It is just i am working on a portrait and those guidelines scare me
OH i see what you mean blacky yeah the amount of lines is scary
yikes well make sure your getting rest/stretching!
also Angelic as long as you keep drawing lots itll improve no matter what! drawing involves a lot of muscle memory and practice. im sure youll do great 
well i wouldn't do portrait personally
i would only go as far as learning proportion
but my mother asked for a portrait on her birthday long ago, so i am just trying ...
I wanna give Rhys some tired eyebags but I'm afraid it'll make him look creepy
well not really, i drew my brother on his birthday
my mom said if i can draw her on her birthday as well
asked *
she is probably more or less want a drawing of mine tried to draw her

FINALY I GOT IT

I was gonna try to draw a coupleβs picture of Sebastian and Rhys, but Iβm still trying to improve on drawing one person
Does anyone here use firealpaca?
Because this shit happened and I'm trying to find a way to fix it
FUCK YEA
GOT IT BACK

His right arm has 3 joints o_o
You might want to practice a little bit more.
The drawing needs a whole lot of improvements
@abstract drum I started working on a website a while back for it, could probably launch it super quickly
Just gonna throw up a header image and a "join us" email list
sweet! Thank you! First fan haha, I'll remember that π
Maybe there will be an NPC in gmae named Avery or something.. π
@lament turtle I'll fix it later, gonna look at some arms and study them to fix it.
Any characters from stardew valley that i should draw?
Gonna do them in a pixel art style and try to be faithful to the style of the game
alex
Fixed it
My baby
Hello, fellow artists! I am an (extremely amateur) artist looking to seriously get into the art scene! I would like to learn how to really draw! I'm seeking advice/pointers/any good tutorials you know of.
extremely amateur like did you just started to learn how to draw?
if that's the case I would recommend you to start studying forms, how things are built out of basic shapes, most people start from there usually traditional but it depends on your taste, if you want some tutorials you should look at Jazza or Dan Beardshaw on yt, they are some nice inspiration for me and I think you would find some interesting tips to start from somewhere (myself I still try to draw a lot from real life, study perspective and maybe have fun sketching some cartoon characters)
I hope I could help you lol
and pro tip: as long as you can be consistent and patient with your work you will improve a lot faster, at least I can see this in my drawings
Decided to sketch some muscles and was told it looked like a titan 
It does
yup
Oo nice, I just drew the muscular system few days ago just for my ocs' designs
It was fun to draw hh
painting go brrr









