#creative-discussion
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Also I had to get creative bc I had no idea what she was wearing
It looked like a thong
Thank u!
@devout bridge what's art fight?
And is your nickname a little shop of horrors reference?
Event where u draw ocs on the other team and the team w the most points wins
Also yes
Good
I'm not good enough for art fight
I'd make my team lose
That's not how it works
Did you draw something? Congrats, you earned points for ur team
You can't get negative points
It's p fun, it lasts the whole month of July
It's on the art fight site tho. But nothing's started if u wanted to check it out
Is it okay to post a link? sounds like fun
Dunno tbh. Used to be but I haven't been here in a minute
Either way it's just called artfight so u rly can't not find it lol
Links are OK as long as its nothing dangerous
Link it pls cause I'm poopoo brain and I won't find it
Cool
yes
Help
i used it for a bit and got frustrated cause my smol brain couldnt understand it
Imma use full brain power
the guide is your best friend
Thanks Arcane
Woah that's cool @tropic halo
did somebody ping me
thanks necro
SAI was very light on my PC back then
Is it free?
or cheap
@rustic plume I was wondering if u can show me ur art?
U dont have to but I was just wondering
depends on u
Guess here is ayt
I'd like to be a character designer in the future so I've been building up my portfolio for it dbsnw
Also expressions are fun
I used SAI for this one while the first one I sent, I used Clip Studio Paint
I mostly use CSP now tho
CSP? Or Sai?
CSP
CSP is on sale rn
CQP?
100 USD for the full feature
But idk if it's done or not. They have multiple sales within a year so you'll def catch another one.
it ends in 5 hours
Ah heck
Is 100USD the price for the app?
SANA OL
Just Ad/b/ sucks
I can deal with ads
U dont do lineart?
i use firealpaca
I go straight into it
Oooo
Cleaning up the sketch layer is my best friend now
also your art is really cool @rustic plume
Nea's art is amazing
nah
my art is meh
Im still working out mine ;W;
that's some nice art frog :0
whos, frog?
HEEHIO NICE
theres Nae's
I love Nea's art style
:o
I'd like to see your art too, BG
nghhh
I'd like a sweater like that tho
That's good
or how to work with light properly
Idk know either Nae
and i want to try digital painting
i hate painting irl so thats good
Ikr
I dont think Ill do painting
oh cool, i hadn't seen the starbound drawing
I make too many mistakes with colors ;W;
That's cool, BG. Nothing bad about that
how do u think of it Xander?
:0000
looks good 
Looks good, dude!!
Wdym
Like the drawing, idk if thats my art style
i wanna start practicing pixel art but at the same time im feeling pretty lazy lately xd
Yeah, I only started to draw this year
@blissful sonnet same
Oh how to find your set style
Pixel art 👀
i got my tablet in january i think
Yeah
ive only done about 4 drawings tho
yaramy i will ask you sum stuff when i decide to start 👀
Look at other artists and see what you like about their art
Incorporate it into your art
I always watch my friends draw and I honestly learned a lot from them
So ur art stlye is a mix of somebody elses?
one of the first things i drew
a lot of my drawing just comes from hours of scrolling through instagram art
I LOVE THAT NAE
Honestly not really Somebody else's
but multiple people?
sumn more recent
It's still my art. Still my personal thing, but I got it from learning
Oooo
Man I love these colors
Ooooo Nae I remember the doggy drawing from winter event
I wasnt here ;W;
i honestly just pic colours and go with it
i legit borrowed a tablet just so i could enter
i was so happy when i got my own
Im using a computer so I dont need a tablet
even tho is a lil cheap one it gets the job done
its touch screen
Oh wow amazing
you should probs get a tablet still
a lot more control
I just use a tablet
cuz like another one of my drawings is very different from the one I shared just now
Hand eye coordination be wacc
so idk what my style is
I might get a tablet
Yeah you start off like that. BG
my "style" is childish and lazy
I also started like that and tbh your "style" will keep changing and that means you're growing
Hey its not childish and lazy. It's nice.
Yeah essentially just keep drawing, learn from others, keep drawing
got it
@tropic halo How much is ur tablet?
wdym Frog?
Oh that's p cheap
thats pretty cheap for a wacom drawing tablet
Djejw it's just an expression I use
Thats a rlly good price my goodness
there is a better version i think for around the same price
is it like ribbit, Frog?
let me go look it up
Dbbwhw yah it's kinda like ribbit
Thats me tbh
Fnbe ikr
XD
Wacom CTL4100 Intuos Graphics Drawing Tablet with 3 Bonus Software Included, 7.9”x 6.3″, Black | from $79.89 with a 4.4/5 rating (4,745 reviews)
few extra dollars but meh
Is this good also?
you have buttons you can configure
I mean like the link to lazada
mine has no buttons ;-;
if i see myself getting better at digital art im gonna invest in a better tablet
Nae, can u check my link and see if its good or Frog??
Cuz I dont want to buy something wrong ;W;
Yeah it's good
@blissful sonnet Micko uses Veikk A50
Whats that Foods? a tablet?
you can go for it if you want
do they work with Chromebooks doe?
It's ur starting tablet so it'll be good
dunno about that
I mean like it should
it gets the job done but i would suggest the intuos
Cuz I just need to plug it in
get more for your money
wdym Nae?
I've no idea. I never did shop online
I might need to ask other filipinos here on the server
But tbh the intuos is a lil bigger and has the hot keys, so Nae is right
You'll be getting more for ur buck
$79
Shipping Fees Nae
I-I mean
@blissful sonnet Chrome OS is an operating system designed by Google and uses the Google Chrome web browser as its main user interface. As a result, Chrome OS primarily supports only web applications. Due to this type of infrastructure a driver for Wacom products is unable to be installed.
Depending on the Chromebook you have, and OS image provided by the OEM (original equipment manufacturer) limited pen support may be available and pen input will work with some older Wacom Tablets. Pen pressure, touch input and the tablet Expresskeys will not work in most cases.
Wacom's developers are continuing to work with Google for a future solution, currently however there is no driver support for Chrome OS and Wacom devices.
ah
from the Wacom Website
if you buy the one i have its gonna come up to $85-90
so might as well
just save a bit
and get sumn that will help you more
i wish i waited a bit more and did more research
A good tablet is hard to come by
from the Wacom Website
@lament turtle So even if I buy the tablet, I would need another computer?
What's your computer ba, BG
it works fine
Chromebook ;W:
Oooo
Nibs are def essential
as it says the Older Wacom Tablets may work, but depends on the Chromebook Manufacturer
Hzhwhqh broooo
i was trying to open the bag when i just got it
One by Wacom is pretty well supported AFAIK
thats the one i have
nice pun 😛
heheh
?
nibs are the lil things you put in the pen
Ooo
so you can touch
And u can make it like change into eraser or a different brush?
the buttons
yeah
One by Wacom is pretty well supported AFAIK
@lament turtle was the one I sent supported??
no you have to do that from Software BG
the more buttons you have the more shortcutes you can have
Yeah, saw a bunch of videos of them doing that
dunno TBH, I cannot find anything online saying those support Chromebooks doe
Yeah thats what Im thinking of
Mom has a laptop thats 500 dollers
But shes giving that to My sister ;W:
I-
even $400 would be fine
do you play any demanding games like CSGO and fortnite?
Nope
Time to inves
those can run all your art programs
well Ive been investing
and the games you play
already
Terraria and Stardew will run fine in $300 laptops
yeah
YES
example?
thats true
like photoshop
Oh yuck
and ever krita
if you are getting a laptop get one with AMD Ryzen
example?
AMD ryzen is good right
and you never know what you might want to do on your laptop in the future
what you might get interested in
so invest in sumn that can run everything fairly well
^^^a good idea
AMD Ryzen is better than Intel in terms of performance for now as well as price so your art programs will run well
an IT?
Yup
expound?
i know what IT is but you want to be an IT?
like an IT specialist?
or an IT teacher?
XD
Lol I've always wanted to be a teacher but not to elementary or hs kids
Mate becoming an IT specialist requires patience as well
Lot of motivation and patience
I know
thats why I chose that over a teacher
because I have no idea how to teach people
hey has anybody thought to try using AI to upscale pixel art?
I love ur artwork but plz keep it to a minimum of 3
WAIT
NVM
we are in the discussion not the other one
sorry about that
it's looks like those deep fried images yknow??
they are still pretty blurry and deep fried 😐
@willow plover it does add more dimension, what ya think?
Those NPC upscaled arts looks like its made of cake if you look at some of the designa
Not to be rude or anything just thought it looked like it was cake
The teeth on the upscaled sprites 
Yeah they're a bit out of place lol.
Skynet is already beginning their takeover by inflicting psychological trauma on those who use their upscaling program
Bringing best boys and girls to life, one realistic tooth at a time.
It's alright guys I literally just processed the images with Gigapixel AI as an experiment
Yeah we know. Just poking fun at the results.
Why is artisan Leah not posting anything in #art-gallery?
She hasn't put anything on there in like a week
Aw, is she down again? 
Yeah she hasn't posted anything in a while
Mods need to react a picture with a certain emote it's not all bots doing it
Huh, a couple were just posted.
Who do I ask to become artisan?
You don't
Theyll give you the role if you post enough but asking doesn't make it happen any sooner
Who do I ask to become artisan?
@jolly swan bouncer
.choose draw, roblox
draw
So cute!
uwu Emily

Thats so cute!
OOHH I SO COOOLLL
THANKYOUSS
😳 ginger seb
That looks awesom!!
hehehehehe
@lethal belfry Best I can tell is that it's a dark iron blade with a bronze hilt and pommel, and maybe a red grip; could be depicted as dyed leather or something.
Grip looks like it'd have a little ring or band around the middle. Like this part but maybe only one band instead of two.
Okie dokieeee, thank u so much. I need this so hard mmmmhh
Don't forget that Seb's mace is an unused weapon in the game files.
seb- mace- what-
yes that one hahah
Yeah for anyone who might not know, most bachelor(ette)s have unused weapons. Only Emily and Shane don't have any, probably because they were the most recent ones made available.
I wish they both give weapons
I like that all of them somewhat resemble a usable weapon and then there's Sam's which is an old guitar
Harvy's reflex mallet though.
Do No Harm
I remember when I saw his guittar I laugh a lot
Well, I guess Hippocrates didn't exist in the Stardew Valley universe.
why?
Just making a joke about how you can use Harvey's medical mallet as a weapon.
And Elliot's pencil. Something something is mightier than the sword.
Plz I want zombie Apocalypse fanfic where Sam decpaitates zombies with his guitar and then does one of those dramatic knee slides and violently strums it
OOhhhhh zombie auuu
Would be nice
Actually mmhh I thinks keychain have something like that
I vaguely remember something like that.
Or I'm getting it mixed up with the monster AUs.
Listen to Final Fantasy VI - Fanatics Tower by MissCorielsVGMusicRequest #np on #SoundCloud
Finally Abigail.
cuteee!
Thats adorable
oh 
ngl i have hard time to focus on red background
sorry 
Uh so quick question
I need help choosing what color looks like a skin color
or like not too yellow and not too pink
its supposed to be my skin color
Bottom right one if it’s a little bit lighter mixed with the bottom left for highlights if you want a lighter complexion- but there are many, many different skintones.
You can always just take a pic of your hand
And import it into your drawing program
And eyedrop it
i completely forget about that
So I finished
@grand cave So I finished it but idk if something happened to the skin tone. Cause as I was doing the background, something happened to the skin
or like I think something happened
not sure
@blissful sonnet send it
Ik it's probably your style but you should work a bit more on the eyes
Yeah, for some reason it wouldnt blend and its too late for me to care that much

Ah
Don't do that
Blur and air brush
Never use those to shade
Makes the work look
Strange
Ooo
Hmm
Never used that before
So idk what it offers
But air brush should never be used to shade
I used to do it
I havent used much of the program so I cant say if the brush is there
Made my work look cheap
Got it 
Yayaya
Do u have anything I could base u off of?
K
Leah doodle
Still got some hands to do but this sketch is pretty much donezo
Also that's an amazing doodle! I wont lie though - at a glance, I thought the hammer was a gun. I think I'm tired.
if I made a screenshot you won't be able to see it so here is a wip of cuddl e art
yes they have stars in they're eyes but I can't hardly see them
(Pretend his other arm is behind Olivia pls thank)
i keep changing olivias bangs help
I just finished this one 🙂
wait me forgot eyebrow
brb
damnit
i forgot something
fixed AGAIN LOL btw there art above dis
@lament turtle very nice 
@exotic wren thanks so much! 🙂

the second one does make the hair look brighter! those are great portraits 
who wanna know what im makin
Lay it on us..
a pastel baddie themed adopt cause im kinda bored lol
im gettin proud of her so i rlly hope someone buys her or ill take her for myself LOL
Thanks so much @urban nexus 🙂
I love it!! 
uwu ty
That looks amazing!
i wanna try painting this but like-
GOOD JOB MICKO AND NAE!
nah this is an old drawing
finally finished the line art for this
that looks cool!
Opinions?
my fnaf fangame idea:
you have 3 drones and you need to carry out task around the restaurant ( the map is pretty big ),taks make noise, some more than others, noise atracks animatronics, the drones have limited power, you can recharge them in your office, animatronics can damage your drones, once the drones get thier durability down to 5%, they will aoutomaticly back to your office,each animatronic dealsdiffent amount of damage and move diffrent speeds, drones can caouse a cinntroled shot to make animatronics move back the the prevous camera they were on ( if again zapped right after being zapped, they will move back to the caqmerea there were on before the camera they ere first shocked ), you dont have any doors, once you carry out all tasks aroudn the restaurant the night ends, each night there are more tasks and some tasks change places
Opinions?
@lament turtle I’m digging how dynamic the pose is, and I really like how well done the face is!
@marsh current ty!!
Yehhh, May consider hiring you for a commission once I get the appropriate amount!
my fnaf fangame idea:
@lament turtle
never played fnaf but that sounds like pretty a solid game! :)
@marsh current that would be lovely and really appreciated! i give my all to commissions since i dont get any
Awww damn, hopefully I can be the first, that said I’d love to hear you get commissions
ive only gotten one so far but i have 2 people interested :)
but dm if youre serious!
Ofc!
I started to make this piece over 2 years ago. I didn't get to finish it tho ;o;
thats a really cool camera angle!! looks awesome :)
@marsh current Aww that's such a cute fic
I love the internal dialogue as Penny gets all flustered and frustrated at herself. What a cutie :D
Omg, tysm, it’s appreciated!
I always figured she’d always be wrestling with her inner thoughts as she talks to someone
he look good but damn do fine lines kill me
line art in general sucks
yeah dude i'm dying
i've finished everything in a small amount of time but the lineart is just draining me
when you have a great sketch but lineart go brr
mood
eye
GD, beautiful eye and creepy at the same time
LOL
Not sure what i should do next
ignore the fat ass bleeds
but idk if i wanna do the fish next or the background next
It looks really good!!
ty!
Do the background next I say
before the fish?
yes
okie
I like that yeah
FireAlpaca got an update 2.3.1
you should do 3 for the waves
eye
@grand cave I JUST THOUGHT THATS A RACOON HOLDING HIS LITTLE ARMS OVER HIS HEAD AND THE PUPIL WAS HIS NOSE 😭
rate my cup and hand
hand is 10/10 👌😔 !!
not sure if its just me but i think the cup might be missing a line? still a good 9/10
yeah it is i just realised ty
my first time doing dreadlocks.. does the shading look better on the right or the left?
bnuuy
Awhhh that’s super cute!
bee gay
cute
It's sideways
very cute
Imma do the lineart real quick
Niceeee
It's nice, man
Looks cute!
@jagged moss what platform?
russian facebook basically
thank you :D
someone got mad lol
Been going through my old art class notes and man I wish I could draw and shade fabric like I used to
u are awesome at it
here ya go @blissful sonnet I tried adding some extra detail on the humans
since you found the websites to get the references from, I kept it simple and practiced adding detail such as muscles
GUYS
WHAT PAGE SIZE DO YALL DRAW ON BC I FEEL LIKE IM BEING A PUSSY WITH 2000X2000??
Depends
I draw using page size 1920x1080
4000х3000
Drawing in 4k is good for professional work, but if your doing random drawings it seems like a good idea to draw in 4k but no it makes the small mistakes you made more noticeable than if you draw at a smaller resolution
I mean, don't you want to see the small mistakes?

I Almost finish those.. ammm stikers? or something
I should test out sai
aw shit i forgot he has a second eye
My canvases are usually at, er checks 8350 x 11811 in 600dpi
My computer hates me
I scale them way down when saving the full image ofc
One of the brushes I use often, a crayon brush, works best at that scale or I would use a smaller size alas
For all of you Abby drawers: https://twitter.com/miyuliart/status/1276587063383592962
henlo
I remembered I attempted to draw this last night
I crashed halfway through doing touches but here
not my finest lol
Oh I'm judging alright—
—and I judge it to be pretty nice.
nice ass
smh
Looks good nae!
Ooo that looks cool Carrot
thank you! 
Was wondering if this looked a bit stiff from what the actual image was?
I might need to extend the calves
That looks really good!
my gosh the models into the character aha
Thank u!
She has a whole website dedicated to poses
about 2000 images i believe
Oh jeez
Im just choosing poses that show the whole body and not be obscured by objects
but yeah might never do this pose without a ref
That is very impressive BG
why did I chose such a weird pose
this will never happen in rl
@mossy leaf why must i do this
lemme try and google an example lol

not exactly what i mean but kinda like the sketch on the right
(don't use this as a reference for anatomy/proportions, it's broken af)
try to copy the 3d shapes you see on the ref, not the outline
your sketches look like the forms are on a single plane
unless that's your intent lol
(traced over the ref) here's how i would've done that if i was doing a study pic
Ooo
it makes you understand the planes of a human body better and helps with perspective
lol
well tracing over the reference
tracing for studying is ok
as long as you don't claim that it's 100% original
imagine the body as a bunch of very basic blocks and ignore the details
This is all I can do for poses
I might end up going back to my straight ass drawings
Yeah I will never claim something unless I actually drew it
I like the bottom right one
Reminds me of a Skyrim mage pose mod 😆
Not the correct angle but this is all I could find
@blissful sonnet your poses look really good!
yeah using 3D shapes does help perception
I tried aha 
Thats looking good
I was just thinking that
Yep Afro
How does this look so far
Looking great! But I think the stem could use another leaf
^
I’m loving it so far!
Thanks!
baby~
icecreams... 😔
@blissful sonnet
yo
Ooo
i wish i can read what it says
Man I wish too

Sorry my notes are bleh
I also have perspective notes?
But most of what I have are just figure drawing and character concepts
speaking of proportions, it helps me to remember that legs are about 2 times the length of the torso, though they usually seem shorter in a standing position
humans are just squiggles
i usually exaggerate that and make the legs even longer. making them shorter, though, makes the character look weird
I think often how your foot is the same length of your forearm
my feet are big my arms are big sigh
Your hand is approx. the size of your face
But legit I found out the foot thing some time ago and I've never recovered
i found it out when i was buying shoes
wtf too many revelations my life is a lie
looking very good, what kind of flowers? I'm not well educated on that
Hydrangea
Looks much better!
I’m proud of the bumblegay
Cute. Does make me wonder how it fits with PIerre's in-game attitude towards Abby's behavior though.
it changes in the latter half
i plan on having it blend into the canon
shtuff happens
shtuff and things
it makes me hate Pierre a little less
I uh stumbled upon this Alex drawing! https://twitter.com/MondoArt1/status/1268974980680740864
Ive seen it before and Im still in love with it
omg haley looking extra cute
Penny cheek squish 
IM IN LOVE WITH THAT DHAIVRKAW
I wish I were Penny in that pic 🤤
Nipple
lmfao
I've never really thought about that @tawny lynx
😔 draw machine broke
Hhjii
yes
homestuck fandom is immortal
not bad
you did great with the shapes but the chest on the left just looks completely 2D instead of 3D, you could make the left arm be above the chest layer to make it look 3D
it helps to use lines to map the circumference of the shape and the direction it's leaning in
yeah it looks great!
one thing is that the girl on the left looks like she's standing on her toes
Because she’s wearing heels
ye
I’m looking at the right shoulder of the lady on the right
The ball of the shoulder should be over the torso and not partly behind the torso
here @blissful sonnet this simple line can make the person look more 3D in the chest area
the right shoulder seems fine in my opinion
Overall nice progress, BG!
Sorry I can’t help but had to put her on some swimming suit uwu
I dont think I used 3d shapes right
3d shapes are supposed to represent the perspective of the body parts, but your sketch looks like you just add random lines instead of thinking about form and position. for example, one of the pink haired girl's legs is straight, while the other is bent a little bit, but your sketch shows both legs as straight
i think it would help to study anatomy for a bit, like reading a book about it or watching a video lesson. unfortunately, i don't remember what book i used to study that
look for books/vids from professional artists who are really good at academic realism, but avoid lessons that focus on details too much
avoid quick tutorials and lessons from young amateurs, even if you think that the artist is skilled in realism. learning boring academic basics will save you a lot of time in the long run, no matter what style you want to achieve
if the author starts to talk about details like smaller muscles and bone structure, either find another resource or ignore that until you can get the basic structure right
for perspective of body parts, you could try using easy poser. it's an app that lets you pose a 3d character, and it has a feature that shows boxes and lines on the char
My recommendation is the books by Andrew Loomis. I got them for my courses and they’ve been very useful.
I personally find that blocking is time consuming and it didn’t really help me learn back then. Still feel the same.
it’s just not my cup of tea.
i had the opposite experience, and i still use it when i need to draw something in perspective. i don't think it's a good idea to skip it as a beginner
Im reading the book that Soy recommended and while I learnt things from it
I feel like Im not ready for it
I dont know how to explain it
but imma continue reading and see if I can understand it
stan prokopenko is a pretty good teacher and has a lot of helpful videos on his youtube channel, though there are so many that it can be confusing
There’re many other books out there too
I think a lot of free PDFs
I was trained as a traditional figure painter so there’re probably some different ideas.
Yeah I found a pdf on the book u said Soy
Loomis’ probably not for beginner-beginner
When I learnt blocking perspective and proportion, I literally did solid blocking and not 3D. Still worked.
But like I said, it’s is prolly not what you seek.
The “3D” is when we start to shade ah
you need good lineart to shade properly. if your lineart looks flat, you probably won't be able to make it look 3d with shading
god knows i still struggle with that
box-blocking is just a case of curiosity for me. Also shading is highly influenced by not only the shape and lighting but also color. Anything can be flat with flat color palette too.
Starting from shape is fun but it’s also good to look up masterworks or works of your fav artists and see how they go with their styles.
just look up examples and draw a lot I guess 
Good luck with your journey
anything can be flat with flat color palette
grayscale photos want to know your location
a lot of people tint grayscale and honestly that takes a lot of skills
Because it could go too shiny
what I mean by color is that ofc you can tint it but the outcome is based on color choices
Grayscale is imho easier form of shading. The ???? things start when we try to add colors.
I was reading trying to get hints off of ur conversations
but well I wish I understood it more ;W;
Uh
so
I tried again
W-why the legs are in chunks now
I realized that the first persons knee is combined with the thigh 
chop chop soy
I was just getting it from the book 
great progress tho bg!
but i think you should just add "joints" where there are actual joints
Now I reverted back a step
I prefer your ball knees
And I agree with elli about putting the joins where they are
Uh Soy, quick question
It seems that you get the 3D tube style 
Im now confused on what the book is telling me with the spheres on the legs and arms
Like im looking at a page and its showing diagrams of different objects with like spheres
which page and what is the name of the book
Oh I see how you get all the rings here
He’s just demonstrating the space inside the body
Foreshortening is the perspective in which what’s in the front seems bigger than what’s in the back
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHGuMuprDarMz_Y9Fbw_d2ws i watched these a while ago and they helped me a lot, maybe you'll find them useful too
it's a good idea to watch them in order without skipping to parts that you find more interesting
wooaah soy did you draw that?
I have to go eat but ill be reight back
wah amazing
Thanks! I don’t get to paint a lot anymore and I wish I could go back and fix some stuff.
Since I’m not very big on digital, take my words with a grain of salt 
I also just realize that with old books like the ones I recommended, you need to have a bit of solid ground. The vid that thornowl linked is very helpful.
slides into channel
slips slowly and silently away again
as a beginner, i tried to skip basic shapes and went right to learning anatomy. after a couple of years i had to go back and learn it anyway, then study anatomy again with my new knowledge. i still go back to basics from time to time, actually
thats good!!
tbh i'd suggest avoid boxes and use more fluid lines
so like ovals?
Good legs!
The figures stand very solid and not defying gravity in some way ahah
I like how you adjust the knee position
^^^also really good how you did the figure on the left the most
Yeah, I just have a feeling that you’d prefer learning with more fluid shapes
Yeah I was experimenting with the joints
and then I had to find a way to make the left person's right leg is behind the left leg
Idk how to explain, but dont worry basically making perfect lines
A bit for foreshortening for the leggy of the left figure
Basically the leg closer to the screen will be a big better as you can see from the ref
Hold your pen a bit looser
Ooo
Fluid shapes to me mean not box-box
^^
Okay
and Soy did I somewhat achieve the legs
You did! The knees position does it for me
Also the left leg already looks like it’s in the front of the right and not on the same plane
Yeah pravtise is always good
Yeah it looks really good!
One important thing is that you can block out the proportion by instinct
As in you know the thighs should end there and the shoulder should be this wide in regards to the head, etc
Ooo
so keep practicing and get that instinct in 
Got it! Now time to continue practicing!
If you feel something isn’t right, take a break and come look at it later
You might get a eureka moment like damn I knew it! the legs are a bit too short
we are rooting for youuuu 
i'd suggest staring at a mirror too
look at how your body works?
idk i would measure stuff with my foot
like "ah foot same as forearm length okay"
It makes me rlly happy knowing I have some who are supporting me through my journey of actually knowing art
very proud of u and ur growth as an artist, bg
I didnt know the foot is the same size as a forearm
try it
My foot is shorter than my forearm 
RIP soy
elbow kinda is by the waist and wrist aligns with crotch kinda deal
RIP soy
Disproportional soy
My foot is bigger than my forearm 
Micko u disproprotional
That might be my foot
like it starts at elbow, ends at wrist
yeah my foot is too big compared to my forearm 
RIP Micko
I don’t think it’s that exact irl haha
But it’s a rule of thumb for drawing
Actually I don’t really look at forearm while drawing feet because most of the time there’s perspective at work
big feet are useful since they allow my to climb and run faster 
Jealous
oh wacc
tbh i'd suggest avoid boxes and use more fluid lines
structuring a body with fluid lines and ovals can confuse you when you're starting out. they're like the icing on the cake, not a replacement for simplified structure. it should go gesture => boxing the figure out as a 3d object => smoothing the angles and adding details. if you're skilled enough to do the first two steps in your head, you can skip them, but to achieve that you need to be really good at understanding the perspective and structure of the human body
when you structure the body with boxes, those lines help you understand the form and place the details. smooth fluid lines come afterwards
a-any recs..?
proko actually explains structure really well in his robo bean and mannequinization videos from the playlist i linked earlier

















