#creative-discussion
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ooooh i love your kyuubey
tyyy
medibang....?
Interesting
you interested?
I am indead
ill relay your agreement to the evil medibang gods
I am concerned
i use medibang since it is free
people like this deserve more love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8coZqNAT8
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love the beat
any thoughts on thos 3 tablets ?
site doesnt have
Many Options
i mean
its in NZD
its probably less in usd
display being when it shows what youre drawing on the tablet screen ?
yes
bc nah
none of those
gone check other sites too
like a monitor
those three are possibly the best optiond that site has
thats still very expensive
Thereare plenty of other good companies out there besides wacom
and how big are they?
didnt click on each of them tbh
not sure theres heaps of options here
different site has this
are you looking for one with a display?
one with a display would probably be better
not sure i can afford one tho lol
is Huion better than Wacom ?
I think it all comes down to preference
XP pen and Huion both have good quality tablets
I'll keep an eye out for Huion but idk that we have Lots of options here tbh
never actually had one before so anythings better than nothing
ok
Pen display Kamvas 13 is available in 3 colors, can be powered by laptop directly while no extra power supply is needed.
usb-c cable
juicy
small price for
extra cable
always need more of thos
k
i rly like that it comes in purple
ye
19 inches
lorg lad
thicc
I think i was eying a $300 one the other day. But have other priorities atm
can I get some feedback on this Sophia portrait?
thats in NZD
oh i love this!!
thanks
Now I just gotta do this for her 20 other portaits
but does anone have critique
š
Drawing pew pew girl
Name suggestions ples :>
im bad at names but holy shoot i love her a lot
So i have a dilemma
i love the shading and the realistic style but the eyes... dont work with the stylee
Just add an unholy amount of detail to the eyes until it starts to fit in
It works for me 
See what works
If it doesnāt, liquify is your best friend 
tf is liquify
what it do tho
Lets you push stuff around
š be more specific pls
I really dont know how to describe it other than pushing stuff around
If you had a wonky line, you could push it to be kinda straight
Like, i pushed the pose here a bit and now she looks like a jojo character

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ok lmfao
does liquify do that for the entire canvas or just the layer
Just the layer
Wait what device do you have Nathex
okie
bruh your iPad seems easier and nicer to draw on then my $1000 Huion screen drawing tablet
1k 
my ipad is 1.2k
:O
woah
I cant even imagine drawing without looking at the thing im drawing
lasted me 4 years and hasnt broken into tiny pieces so im happy
its hard at first
but it gets easier
like anything
makes sense
My ipad is 3 years old and the new borderless ipads are loking hella enticing
whoa
and before that i used to draw on my ipod
sometimes a non screen drawing tablet is almost more appealing caues then your hand/pen doesnt get in the way of you seeing what youre doing
Woah big boy tablet
nathex
Bigger sucks
not portable?
Itās just, too much space and not portable
Bro when i watch rossdraws and see his big ass screen im like bruh how do you even draw
\
yeah and dont the screen ones tend to break more easily
since theyve got software and stuff
If my ipad was any less durable, i think iād have broken mine like 2 years ago
I bring a laptop and ipad to school and i throw my bag around harder than alinity throws her cat
LMFAOO
OH NO
i stg i keep my tablet in a drawer padded with my socks and never atake it anywhere
take
i dropped my ipad so many times
Devices are scary fragile
i mean thats so they can sell you more of them
My friend dropped his bag once and when he opened his laptop, there was a big ass crack radiating from the middle of his screen and a dent on the backside
oh shit wtf
i was the one who dropped it but i never told him that lmaooo
that message hurt me physically
ok what the FUCK is midari ikishima's eye color
yellow-green apparently
tFFFfffff
im 5ft
dw im 5'5 barely
5"6 squad
what a sad state of affairs
though from where im from 5'5 is above average
i wanna be
tree
im a midget
you know how much it hurts when the girl you like is taller than you
idk, I'm sure hugs from her would feel extra good
^
I wouldnt know, i left that school last year lmao
She was 5ā6, i was 5ā5 at the time so it wasnt really too big of a gap
Someone give me a name 
wtfff you're so good
Shading shortcut 
That looks sick already
are these eyebrows too weird?
nice!!
hey does anybody have good tips for decorating your farm? I always have trouble doing so
I just want to make it look nicer
DM me if you do
Best place to ask is in #farms-and-outfits or #stardew-spoilers for that
probably not the channel for that friend
I have never posted any art of my own on here before. Iām definitely a beginner but I felt inspired while admiring all the other artworks on here. I was having a conversation with my sister-in-law about a house I technically own but havenāt moved into yet. She was telling me there is an outline to an old door showing on the outside of the house with shingles inside of it and I thought it would be cute to set up... whatever these arches are called in front of it and pretend that itāll open up to a secret garden. Anyway, since I havenāt moved yet, and I canāt remember what the backyard looks like, Iām waiting for her to take and send me a picture of the area to fill in the background. So other than the lack of scenery and my lazy attempt at pebbles around the stepping stones, any thoughts?
Awhh thatās beautiful! Your style is so prettyy ā¤ļø
Thank you š„°
np!
@nimble imp Bruh how do you get every pose in proportion 
I have a plan. I'm going to draw Sam every day until I improve on his hair.
Because Sam is best boi.
@sly pawn i can give u tips for sam hairrrr
YES
Please
It's such a mystery to me
Please feed me hair tips.
Also that hand guide really really helped. My hands no longer look like mittens.
So thank you @lament turtle !
Triangles.
@sly pawn im rlly glad :)
if you want to practice proportions, draw any character at all
but ill send u a sam tip guide as soon as im done my 6 fanarts
@lament turtle You're really out here teaching my behind how to do art. You're a literal life saver thank youuuuuuuuu
its no problem hjrqewogrfdkv jc
i usually feel really shitty about my art
but helping people boosts my confidence a bit
Yees
Did someone say... Insecurity? 
oh no.

@nimble imp Your triangles have guided me to salvation
Same here... Same here... 
I have taught you well 
like i have trouble drawing without regurgitating
only proud drawing ive done recently is: https://www.instagram.com/p/B_uvARIlnm5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
and thats a sketchbook cover ffs
Colors look 
I really dislike my art too rn - but I just keep telling myself that I'll improve and one day I'll be proud of all the pieces I produce.
And Izzy that sketchbook cover is š
thank you :)
Yw! :)
Lmao weāre all trash at some point
mhmm
Yuup
It's very pretty!
I think my dislike for my art comes from my depression and anxiety. 
And that one art teacher in high school... 
Helps thinking about how my future self is probably trash talking my current art lmao
Same here @nimble imp same here.
art is a skill that you collect over time
Yeah
BUT
(here comes opinion)
And teach yourself
no matter how hard you work
Lets share old art 
Simply beautiful Nathex
skill is crucial and you need to practice continuously
Yep
but at some point skill wont get you as far as if you had natural talent too
True true
I try not to compare myself to other people because of how much art style and the way you draw is very different from other people. And that's a good thing.
Mm
I think people mistake experience for talent. Someone who starts at 3 and is currently 13 will naturally be better than a 20 year old whoās been doing art for a year
imo you can't say you've been drawing since you're 4
bc
lets face it
every child scribbles at 4
and it looks like my aunt's long lost acrylic nail stuck between the couch pillows
treasure
I think thereās a difference between trying to draw and mindlessly scribbling at that age though
I remember ruining my origami book by colouring in everything in purple.
well yeah definitely
Thought I was a proper artist
Like, i started drawing seriously because my older sister was flexing her naruto fanart on me
i say i've been drawing since summer 2019
because that's when ive been drawing way more often
Yeah
before that i drew in class, i drew all the time yes, but not with a goal
i start and stop drawing for periods of time lol
now i draw intensily
I think I tried to start drawing 'seriously' when I was 11. Obviously it was trash, but my goal was to become a super good artist
And I just kept trying
actually now that u say that lily
And doing.. fanart...
i think same
Yeah?
Wait, theres a perfect logic bar for this
Which is full of my old drawings
āKnow my wisdom, not my ageā
i made this like 1-2 months ago so its not very accurate
And the odd painting
I have procreate separate my drawings into years lol
Fr I was always scared of doing human anatomy because I was so bad at it
"recent artworks" january 
LOVE it
but u can see my progress with that
I guess I always thought I'd be one of those artists who focused more on objects than people?
And the progress is amazing
WAIT I WAS 12 IN 2018 WHY DID I WRITE 13
wait nvm
Oof

i have some 5th grade art here
also heres a valid meme that works with our discussion
I have procreate separate my stuff into years
I don't have a lot of my older art. 
lmaooo
who is that question for lmao
you lol

thats 4th-5th grade btw
I mean... I could look at my old deviantART account I had when I was ten...
But I don't... Want to have a panic attack.
Oh ffs all my old digital art was made on paint tool sai and then I got rid of it
So I can't access any of my art
DeviantART was a horrible place. 
I drew a lot of animals though, using one of those drawing guide books
I was one heck of an edgy 5th grader
And they're not too bad tbh
da gives you nam levels of ptsd lmao
@nimble imp
Ohh! When's your birthday? Mine is also next month.
25th
Mine's next month too!

22nd
June squad

i just turned 14
June squad ayy
im so puny ;-;
W h at
nani
n a n i
brother
oh shit
I'll be turning 22 
A year younger
lmAO
im about to reach the anime protagonist age
Oh lord
the hair?
I wish I'd got into anime at an earlier age. Then I'd have a better change at the human anatomy
And the hair is amazING
ty >-<
ngl shouko and midori are my most accomplished characters out of the 6 imo
lmfaooo
i barely watched anime as a child
anime has nothing to do with me drawing
Wait really?
bruh
I've been living a lie
I've been living a lie
I always thought - for some wierd reason-
That people who draw anatomy really well were avid anime watchers for some reason
So they can draw the faces really good
anime anatomy is not accurate
HAVE YOU SEEN BAN
THAT DUDE HAS A CHEST THATS LONGER THAN MY ENTIRE BODY
inhale It's better than the wierd rectangles I pop out
N O O
AND the 8 abs for Joseph joestar
lmfAOOAOAOOAOA
lmfao ok
B a ck
We do pokemon drawings every night on the monster hunter server
Weāre supposed to turn them into humans but iām on 2% so i was only aboe to do the head
blursed
weba
lol
"I wonder whats happening in creative discussion, I never really look in it"
never again.
lmfao
@summer sun do you take commissions by any chance?
My Sam is almost done. Just need to shade him... Now to find a good shade brush... 
blend
Any normal brush is good enough for shading 
Since nobody suggested a name, i just went on google and searched up girl names
Say hello to Ava 
Ty 
i love this!!! oh man
I love the flowers so much
I saw someone talking about how unseasonably long ban was
I finally got the picture needed to finish my sketch but I want to finish it on the computer. My husband wonāt let me get photoshop on the laptop ābecause it lags the laptopā (itās never been used on his laptop before so how would he know?ššŖ) so are there any decent programs I could use? I prefer something where I can do layering but just about anything would be better than Microsoft paint
Paint.net is pretty decent. Itās definitely a hobbyists art program but itās what I use and I like it a lot
Thereās also a great image in the pins with lots more alternatives that people say are good. You might try some of those, @idle dock
is this where the tumblr people hang out ?
do we have any 4 chaners? or perhaps a rare mpspacer
I-
Nah. We do have that shaymin sonic abomination though
Im naming this guy altis
It means deep
Because im deep

mhm, why don't i beleive you.

what art
Read the pins and the channels in #445729591533764620
Thank you @tropic crown this is a huge help 
I also personally love fire alpaca, completely free and used it for a solid 4 years with no issues. Great starter program until you can buy something
:( it feels empty
I donāt know what to add in the background
i was thinking sakura flowers for shouko but thats it lmFAO
wouldnt the final boss witch work more with homura?
and by backgrounds i dont mean full blown backgrounds
just details
lmFAO
I need an artist.
@me when you're around. Would prefer to discuss in DM. I need a logo for something
A request or a commission?
Well, more like help drawing an icon
If you need tips and pointers, this channel is a good place to post it and get feedback
Any financial details I would prefer discussed in private.
I mean, I will be drawing the rough draft, I need them to complete it.
if you want someone to draw it for you, thats a different story
if its a logo for personal use/non profit generating then i guess if someone wants to they can do it for free
but if its for any kind of business or anything like that its gonna be hard to find a volunteer
i wouldnt recommend doing any art for free ever tho, just my opinion
you know whats funny though
in high school i was obsessed with hot emo boys and then when i got to my early 20s i had done a 180 into only being attracted to hugh jackman's wolverine , and now im in my late 20's and have a thing for hot emo boys again.
this is reflected heavily by what i feel inclined to draw xD
ok so im randomly pinged a lot for feedback and people asking me to sprite for them and it seriously bothers me like there are much better spriters you could go to that deserve more love and idk how to feel about it
Why would you feel bothered about people liking your work?
not just liking
i love when people like my work ofc
but like there are much better spriters and people are specifically pinging me for feedback and i dont know how to feel
they probably don't know these 'much better spriters', you can be the one to direct them to them š
yea i mean i wouldnt complain or feel bothered by ppl thinking of you as experienced lol
i mean if you dont know what to say for feedback then just be honest and say u dont know
?
They're just spamming everywhere.
Yeah.
I have 2 commissions ive been needing to work on but shit keeps happening irl so once im done with that i need to break to unwind @_@ its been a week and i feel awful can i havent even really started
Time freeze for like a day and let me just chill out pls
hecc
i feel u
as soon as i start doing commissions my body decides to be sore and stiff all over for no reason
like my lower back rn is like OWWW
I ahhhhh that's so good
thanks ; - ;
but once again the colors are boring af
ill probably slap on some filters when its done
ok does anyone have bottom view referrences?
like where the character is looking up and the pov is from below in an angle view?
Oh I was planning on drawing something from the bottom view but I wasn't sure how to go about it too.
mood
the last one and people who have that confuse me
is that like the neck muscles???
what did you DO to get that
"What" is giving me deviant art flashbacks 
Listen to Mega Man II - Robot Master by MissCorielsVGMusicRequest #np on #SoundCloud
Can anyone recommend a free, semi-decent imaging program? I need to edit a few sprites, and the Paint 3D on my computer is most definitely /not/ at all useful for this. Lol.
Or else maybe a cheap, semi-decent imaging program?
A lot of people use Gimp. Itās free.
not free though unless you compile it from... actually I don't remember where.
Yeah
I just want to edit one sprite (putting a saddle on a horse because the mod needs one file and this is two), and then I wanted to try and recolor some sprites to try my hand at making a mod. I'll look into programs.
I actually gave Krita a whirl. It'll do for what I need it for, for now. But I might check out Gimp in the future.
Krita is a nice program
Aespirite is great. Best $15 ever
For Aseprite:
You can use the free trial, copy the sprite and palette, and save on another program
You can compile aseprite yourself
Or you can purchase it
Or you can use another program
Lol. I might look into Aseprite if I get more into sprite stuff.
Have you tried firealpaca

Even if itās a well known fact of some sort, no piracy or suggestions about piracy is allowed in this server.
typo 
dude made the program himself, he deserves compensation for it
jack sparrow will remember that
Someone give me a drawing prompt
I wanna draw something mundane and happens in our daily lives but i just cant decide what to draw 
All I can think about is a girl looking through a window admiring the rain (the weather was pretty bad here lately so that's why I had this thought) 
And I'm not a girl lol, just had this idea
drinking tea/coffee in the morning? seems like a daily thing/mudane thing
like in pjs and fluffy slippers
reminds me of r/imaginarysliceoflife
good for inspiration
Wow, mind if I ask to see it?
I mean, you can barely see it but there is, in fact, rain
Itās so faint it might aswell not be there tho lmao
So beautiful 
how does the @rigid monolith bot work?
She reposts art in #art-gallery that the admins mark with a 
ah
Only Stardew Valley art gets reposted there
thats smart tbh
and It has to be sdv related art
I'm not sure edits count
oh
so can someone give me feedback on the custom npc im making im not really liking the hairstyle
do you have a portrait?
nope
are you trying to get it to match the style of vanilla sprites?
kinda
for the hair, I'd make it less symetrical
and maybe make the sides come down more, and be less bowlish
I think its needs more colors and dynamic shading
i wanted it to be kinda messy
still kinda looks like a bowl cut, if thats what your going for
thats why i dont like any of them because they look like bowl cuts
i think the head needs to be a bit bigger tbh but when i change it it looks weird
the head size is fine
You should expand more on the sides
I think you shoudl reference Seb's hair, since the cut is kinda similar
ok
Yeah and I definitely think you should add way more shading to the face and stuff
i updated the design a bit
@lament turtle yo im sorry for the ping i was just wondering- i saw some of your old art, i love your realistic style sooo much and was wondering if you could give me tips?
@lament turtle one thing ive noticed about the sdv sprites and art in general os that the npc sprites and portraits all seem to have purply-bluish shading and outlines. maybe tint your shading to be more purple and itll look more like the others. the only sprite that doesnt have this shading is the farmer.
also nobody actually has black. black is replaced with dark blue/purple in every npc.
still dont know how to do the walking animation tho
Yeah just reference other npcs
this is how it looks but it just doesnt look good
Maybe add black to the top of the eyes?
Like a black pixel above the red and the white at the top for each eye?
Yeah
I think its the skin outline
True - it washes him out a little
Arcane really be whipping out that absoloutely perfect girl sprite
That hair is so nice
You know, it's okay. You make it work
i cant believe i've been working on ONE ONE sprite since yesterday
after you do one, it gets quicker to make the rest
it took me a few hours just do to the hair
ye hair is tricky
after adding the eyebrow it looks more lika a bowl cut
That looks better
but the hair looks like a bowl cut
Add some more to the sides?
your shading isnt saturated enough, thats why its looking grey. sdv sprites tend to be oversaturated in color especially with the shading, and like i said beforez the shading is also blue-purple tinted.
literally just slap a blue overlay on it and itll be perfect lol
i put the eyebrows one pixel down
I tried to edit it a bit, which was hard since I don't have the original resolution, but maybe try something like this?
the 1x2 eyes are usually reserved for a looking downwards or sad sprite too
i kinda want his character to be the sad type
ah
got that
but keep in mind that hell always look like hes looking downwards compared to other NPCs
ok
i might change it later
im not that great at semi realism
Only semi realism i have is this
So its between that and
If i do the first style itll be a mix of semi realistic characters with not too realistic background
Whereas manga style just makes the entirety of it manga
Im not doing the colors
If you are planning to go long term, you will want to go more cartoony
like bluechair
comics like I love yoo and Sirens lament often have multiple people working on the comic
There's a lot of fretting over having a unique art style among artists. I think a sufficiently unique artstyle is a bonus rather than a standalone requirement.
Just, whatever you go with, it's important that you're good at it, and are consistent.
unique artstyle is something you develop over time and not something you start with
it will just come along on its own as you keep on drawing and practicing
Mhm im aware of that
Anyways
I love drawing manga but ive always been more fond of semi realism for some reason
And i feel like thereās so many manga artists out there
its really up to you how you want to draw the comic, but the style you choose might make you release less episodes or leave you more tired
Hmm true.
Well rn i have a project but once im done i will sketch out semi realism to see the difference of motivation and time it took between the one i sent you guys and the realism sketch
yeah
an idea is to do a trial comic for maybe two weeks, try both art styles and see which one fits your schedule better
u mean llike chubbi?
im chubbi myself but have no desire to draw cubbi ppl xD
ive seen a few on tumblr tho so lemme se if ic an find them
I feel like most people dont
It's either super skinny or super chubb, no inbetween
or curvy
Yeah
And one of the characters will be relatively larger than average
Speaking from my experience on deviantart
Without being fat or without it bothering her you know?
also @indigo sequoia @echo mesa also this a good site for epic nebula pics https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/
its an archive of hubble's deep space pics
also im technically morbidly obese... so not quite chubby/curvy lmfao. hardly anyone likes drawing ppl that big unless its for fetish
Thank you 
yww
if ever you find references please send them! and ping me too
well since tumblr has literally the worst search function known to the internet i doubt i ever will
I'm now wondering if people's drawings lean (no pun intended) towards skinnier art styles because heavier characters are difficult to draw without it looking weird.
Oh Tumblr's search. Please, Tumblr, just rip off the Booru system.
but i think it has more to do with fatter characters just being less desirable so nobody really wants to draw them in the first place
also we see them a lot less in media so therefore they arent present in our favorite things, so they arent present in fan art, which is what a lot of people start out drawing, so they never learn to draw them
Then you have to account for the fact that everyone puts on weight a bit differently.
yeah
when most ppl draw heavy characters they draw them as all butt and boobs and hips, and perfectly smooth, which isnt a body type that exists in the real world xD
People get rolls.
and most of the guides on tumblr are heavily stylized anyway so they arent very useful
pezzo imo it has to do with simplicity and diverstiy
honestly @lament turtle i'd just google fat people and look at the images, thats the best way to see how much body types vary
ive noticed how i tend to NEVER draw colored skintone characters
some people carry it in their hips/butt, some people carry it in the stomach to the extent they literally have chicken legs
Some people are more firm and others, uh, well I don't have a perfectly nice way to put it but you know what I mean.
ah, my character is supposed to have a large bust and hips, with a not so slim waist
not so slim waist implies they have more of an overall rectangle build rather than an hourglass
heres a decent one
idk about the stupid names for them but that shows a decent variety of body types
aight shes a mix of cello and pear
I mean most of those sound familiar, so I think it's mostly legit. Is there a higher resolution version? I'm actually interested in what it says about each type.
hourglss seems a bit too big imo
the waist is usually smaller
i found this on insta so idk where it comes from
and this
ohhh damn i found quite a lot
this one in particular is very helpful
that last one you linked is heavily stylized and not very realistic, keep that in mind
hourglass just refers to the relative width of the shoulders, hips and waist, doesnt have to do with how "heavy" you are
oh i wasnt aware
i'd reference from realistic anatomy first so that you learn how to draw the anatomy properly
and yeah ik it's not very realistic but it's helpful bc i can get the jist of it
ill look that up too :3
well i mean realistic anatomy of heavy body types, because they have rolls and lumps and bumps that most stylized examples don't account for
ahhh right
such as a lot of people like to draw them with flat stomachs. realistically you're gonna have at least a bump below your belly button if not an actual roll
ur not wrong. only very few people with the righ tgenetics have flat stomachs, same with thigh gaps
There was a nice post that a female athlete or bodybuilder did where she showed that even in her shape, sitting down or bending over produced very visible rolls. It's good to remind people that getting to the point where your stomach just looks like a firm sheet of plastic even when bent is not possible.
idk why people think their body is going to be so incredibly firm that they wont have "rolls" or creases when they bend over
so many artists draw chubby dudes with womanly figures when it makes no sense
Maybe because they started out drawing women? A lot of artists start out drawing one sex.
The sex/gender of the artist seems to have no correlation with which one they choose to start with funny enough.
general rule to me is most dudes dont have huge hips, that's the biggest problem i see most of the time
mhm
its funny how certain artists draw all their girls with thigh gaps and im like
What's the old meme, that girls are ovals and men are rectangles?
i know one person with a thigh gap in my surroundings and thats me. thigh gaps arent common. tf 
It's a good start but from what I can tell is often derided.
And would that gap even still exist if you gained weight?
you can tell what people like in a person by their art sometimes lol
Thigh Gaps are not possible for majority of people
not necessarily a bad thing but its funny to me
||Or their fetish||
i dont know, i dont gain weight lmfao
ive been loosing weight, but my thigh gap is still there
I could not be thin enough to even have them even when I was my thinnest
and most of the time i just wear baggy pants to camouflage it]
thats just how my thighs are lmfao
ppl draw thigh gaps all the time cause it's considered desirable by society. society tends to like the shit thats not geneticallly possible for 90% of the real world
Side note: good to hear that about the weight, assuming you needed to do so.
i wish i was the type of person that "didnt gain weight"
is that what u mean pezzo?
lmao
i dont gain weight at all, and recently ive been losing it a heck more than i should
Media that depicts perfectly normal, mundane, and realistic people and situations is a niche really.
yeah
i hope youre seeing a doc about that cause it can be a s ymptom of a lot of serious stuff
Oh, then yeah I hope you're not unhealthy instead.
the webcomic im making with my friends has a goal of being relatable while being realistic to the reality of each of these characters
im just not hungry and i dont want to eat for personal reasons i'd rather not disclose
love those people callin thinner anime girls thicc
Us internet strangers only wish you good health.
they look nice but they are not thicc
a lot of people i know just ignore it when they have symptoms liek that so i just get in the habit
Or thicc when all it is is notable breasts but no other qualifying features.
if you wanna see something really fucked up, just google asian standards of obesity
their "obese" 'definition is like. what most ppl in the us consider "skinny"
And they'll tell you if they think you are putting on too much weight.
Of course here we have the HAES movement.
Why are people so predisposed to extremes all the time
I'm thankful no one around me has ever commented on my weight fluctuations
my characters are usually always average weight
ive been called many things, including: thicc, straight up fat, skinny, average, a STICK, and flat
which are all
Skinny to average characters may be desirable, but like I said, are also easier to draw I think.
really contradicting???
my parents comment on my depression and hormone disorder caused weight by hiding the ice cream in the basement freezer
lmao
That's not a very good hiding spot.
yeah
But I guess you can only hide ice cream in so many places.
but also, art is art
Sounds like a standard parent-child relationship.
i mean like i said im fat as fuck and wish people would be less shitty to fat people's existance as a whole yet i exclusively draw buff men cause thats the only thing i find attractive
Of course, I'm just trying to account for all factors of why it is that way.
You can't control your attractions. You know I feel you
im 14 
You're always a child to your parents at any age. It's funny hearing my dad and uncles speak to my grandma.
my grandpa got me a 4 year old book (those little books where they learn about shit like caillou) for christmas 2018. i was 12
my favorite is when ppl tell me that once i lose weight/stop hating myself for being fat, then i wont be so critical of other people being fat and be more attracted to them. im like man you really dont get how fucking narrow my ability to be interested in people is
My sister is 17 but I still dote on her like I did when she was 5 and I was 11
yoooo im totally not caught up not caught up on the convo but ppl need to give more appreciation to other body types besides hourglass, esp in drawing
agreed
they can be so fun to do
although we can't judge anyone for drawing really skinny ocs if they want to
its art
Unless you're Zamii
Zamii
name seems familiar?
skinny is kinda rare these days ppl always draw hourglass "thicc" body types now
ehhh
Well I guess she didn't draw an OC per say.
give pear a chance lads š
i used to draw rly skinny characters
idk how 2 now
tbh that is just as bad as only drawing skinny
or in anime really busty
that body type is just as rare as being skinny
its not bad once again, its art, but its not diverse
depends how skinny we are talking
stick men are top tier skinny bois
well i mean in terms of them trying to pass it off as being inclusive or it being a bigger body type lol
like skinny by health standards or by layman's beauty standards?
lmao
lol
idk, i feel like the whole "you need to draw fat ppl to be inclusive" thing is a bit overdone, lot of ppl dont draw fat ppl just bc they dont want to, not bc they hate em
ofc its good to learn to draw that too anyway
well i think its more if you are going for the goal to be inclusive but you won't draw fat ppl, thats when it gets kinda crappy
id love to talk about my webcomic because the topic touches a few of my characters but it's really dark and idk if i can talk about this here
Being inclusive is normal. The removal of fat bodies in standard media is the weird thing
OMG I'm about to go off I better not
like for ex. if you arent interested in inclusivity as a theme then yeah you can draw whatever but if you are making being inclusive a goal then you cant really pick and choose imo
yea
inclusive means inclusive
at least the way i see it, the inclusive movement was designed specifically to represent the real world where the current media failes. so that means poc, lgbt, fat, feminism, etc
i wouldnt pick "inclusivity" as a theme cus its so surface level instead of saying anything, but i get your point
well yeah
for example
the webcomic has a challenge: not only are the characters living very real and troubling issues with their lives, they all represent something different
i mean i dont considder inclusive to be like a huge big deal, its literally just including those who arent normally included. can be subtle or made a big deal of, but it simply just being there is appreicated by those groups
like lot of ppl more specifically pick "fat bodies can be beautiful" which is a theme you could play around more with
yeah
Callum has an ed, Griffin represents the "ideal strong male who doesnt cry" but who is mentally and abused, maple is a larger character and she's lightskinned, clarke is dysphoric and flor is a kleptomaniac with drug issues ignored the help she needs
and imo, it's pretty inclusive
the type of thing i like to see is just minorities, or fat people, or gay ppl etc just existing but not being the centerpiecde. like just the fact that they exist in a scenario is nice to see. cause thats being treated as a normal part of something
yeah that sounds good
inclusitivity is cool and all
but gotta b careful not to portray things wrong
definitely milk
it would be nice if minorities were made the centerpiece but theres always going to be differing views on whats good enough or whats the most respectful etc, its a difficult subject
yea thats usually nice, i dont like when they try to show it in a bad way
We're talking to people we know struggle with some of these issues to be as accurate as possible
yeah exactly milk
eps when they overexplain concepts instead of letting it be
ive dealt with certain issues relating to my skin tone so i will be able to portray it accurately through maple
my co partner had an ed in the past, our writer knows many dysphoric people, etc
do u have any art of maple
i want 2
draw maple bc thats Good Name
we're not doing this with a blatant knowledge, we're doing our best to represent this through art and as accurately as possible
wdym? like do i have a sketch of maple?
or u want to draw her?
like a ref pic
when it comes to minority themes im more specifically into portraying things i have experience with at a deeper level
and sometimes stuff that im interested in
i dont have one yet but ill send one as soon as i do!
;D
ngl this idea im really proud of cuz i feel like its not been done much before
yeah im not really part of any minority groups except im fat as fuck and not cis, but thats about it, and the not cis thing is pretty mild as well so i dont feel comfortable trying to illustrate or write about those kindo topics
im eager 2 do the reads of it ;D
:3
we're making a trial comic soon
yeah i feel you mirax
im part of the racial minority which is yeehaw awesome (not really but whatever)
mirax i think it being more minor might be actually interesting cus we usually see full on trans ppl when we do see it depicted
plus the ed minority so that's awesome
lot of these grey areas are unexplored in media
yeah
like my personal experience is like......... i dont rly feel like a girl, so i thought i was just genderfluid, but then i think about being a boy and im ilke YEA THATS LIT
like ok i enjoy wearing dresses and stuff but like if i was a boy i wouldnt really wanat to be femme, but i also wouldnt really miss being femme at all either??? its weird. also i dont really experience dysmorphia in relation to gender, its more just from being fat
so its like. im like ... i guess im trans kinda?
i wouldnt mind being a dude. i wouldnt miss having a girl body but at the same time id probably be fine if i didnt transition and just had a girl body, the thing i really DONT want to be is fat, its that kinda weird thing lmao
ooo!! do you mind if i use this to base off clarke?
cuz that's kinda what we're going for
Sounds almost indifferent?
i mean, i guess its kind of indifferent? but leaning more twards identifying as male?
and yeah i guess you can
but ia lso dont really identify as agender or non-gender. i definitely lean towards male
im definitely NOT cis
But not quite enough where it'd affect you in any notable way if you didn't really do anything about it?
tbh i tend not to like the label thing, i just consider gender identity to be a component of personality. like i dont see ppl as male/female/ect i just see them as oh yes thats [name]
i guess, idk. i'd have to see how i feel once i lose weight. thats the main source of my dysmorphia and self esteem issues
i find the label thing to be useful, esp for expressing attraction but yea it can be confusing
Yeah if you can identify that as the main source of your confusion, it'd be a good idea to sort that out before further introspection, because it just sounds like it's frustrating for now.
yeah i mean if labels work for other ppl thats great, but ive always just liked to view it on an individual basis
most ppl prolly have thought about whether they are actually trans or not in this generation, but most ppl prolly came to the conclusion that they just have some kind of other body issue
thats my experience at least
yeah
a TON of my friends from high school came out as trans, like, the majority of them
"the gays always find each other" 6th sense is fucking real, i swear to fucking god
and thats def made me think about it a lot more
lmfao it is
currently my ideology is just ike... i like boys SO MUCH that i wanna be one
There was that one Tumblr post where someone went: "Gender is an intimate and personal experience and is different for everyone and no two genders are exactly the same"
And someone responds with:
"I think that's called your personality"
i think about it in that context a lot for some reason
i mod a little art server and im pretty sure all the mods are lgbt in someway, expect for one dude who im not sure
they just love god so thats good enough
yeah thats kinda how i view it pezzo
lmaoo
its better to call that "gender expression" if we are talking about that specific aspect
The creative community seems to have a higher percentage of LGBT people. There's actually a sort of pseudo-psychological theory I've had about that for a while.
however i do absolutelly know the reason why im literally always drawn to drawing cute boys is because its the only way ill ever be close to one lmfao ; A ;
yeah
gay studies need to get on this shit so we can confirm this sort of stuff
we're all open minded cause you kinda gotta be to understand art. everyones art is different and thats been the kinda ideology, everyones different and you can always learn from others experiences
and theres not a "right" or "wrong" way to do art, same with like personality, gender, orientation etc
I call it something like "volatility of mind". That is, what we call "creativity" is actually both the ability and susceptibility of the mind to deviate from normal or typical thought structures. This is good for thinking of new ideas, but also may cause stuff like, well LGBT stuff and what also seems to additionally be a higher incidence of mental illness among the creative community.
Now I know there's an implication of grouping up LGBT and mental illnesses, but we also have a long way to go to removing the stigma of the latter anyways. I'm more saying they may have a similar, nebulous origin.
(Granted, dysphoria is certainly a mental illness.)
or, even the reverse could be true, lgbt people are drawn to the artistic community because we are more accepting of different ideologies and stuff like that
or maybe we see more lgbt people within the art communiity because they are more comfortable expressing and identifying themselves within it, where others in other communitys don't feel as safe.
I'm autistic, and there is a notably higher LGBT incidence among autistic people.
That's the second part of my theory. That all of these are connected by an "unorthodox wiring" of the mind.
i think thats a fair theory
my theory is more that the welcoming and accepting qualities of the artistic communtiy are higher than other communities, so people who are different feel more comfortable expressing themselves, so we tend to know about more of them, whereas a lot of people might still be in the closet in other places
Different mental paths. I'm by no means a trained psychologist or neurologist, but I do see the patterns.
Or a self-amplifying loop.
yea
Hmm, I think this conversation only fits "creative discussion" if you read the channel as being for creative as a concept.
does anyone know how to fix holes in topology during sculpting? i use blender
you mean like holes in the polygon structure of the model? usualy some kind of welding tool? i used 3ds max
Uh... That was a really weird conversation.
weird? 
Not exactly what I would expect in Creative Discussion 
maybe a little off topic but i wouldnt say weird
i also talk about this shit like every day xD
you know those little cards people make of their farmer? yeah working on that. yeah thats a crop tank top for the summer what about it
LOVE THAT
!! (realized i have to add the mermaid's pendant and some other little bits i wear all the time but my finger now has an indent)
That looks really nice!
oh yeah is the mermaid pendant meant to be worn after its given to the spouse or is it more just a formality and isnt usually meant to be worn all the time???
i never draw seb wearing it
The seasonal outfit mod has them wearing it. Its very cute.
I THINK alex has a quote where he says he's been wearing it
Oh yeah! Let me check.
might have been a dialogue mod tho
āI was just admiring my wedding amulet... The shell is flawless. It must have cost you a fortune!"
That's what he says.
ahh
looks amazing!
@nimble imp sorry for the ping, i was wondering if you could show/explain how you learned to pick shadow colours? i love how the redraw looks btw it's so beautiful
The shadow is usually the color of the background
So people usually do blue shadows since the sky is blue
(Or because blue shadows just look cool in any situation lmao)
@pastel nimbus
Like this
I emphasized the blue bounce light from his blankets since the shadow is super close to his normal skin tone and thatād look super boring lol




