#creative-discussion
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they look good to me!
Looks great
i like the line variation, its great!
doodle before sleep
Meed aaaart is 
Is there a Stardew Drawpile?
~~i just want to show you my suffering
~~ wip
Niiiiice.
how do y’all draw so GOOD
you have to have a lot of passion for art and draw a lot and a lot and a lot and after that you draw a lot
like my good friend said when your wrists hurt from drawing that isnt a sign that you should stop but a sign that you just got started
@lament turtle it is against our rules to talk down on someone's work and/or give unwanted criticism
you can express your opinion but should ask first if it is a critique
either way just saying someone's drawing is "meh" is not a critique & doesn't help anyone
If your wrist hurts absolutely stop and take a break. Even if it's just a 10 minute stretch out make sure ur health comes first
I developed a bad case of carpal and tennis elbow bc I put my deadlines before my health and I'm still paying for it
Hey 'yall, I'm looking for a few creative writers to review the story script for the game that I'm making. It's a game about a little boy growing up in a small ocean-side town who goes out into the woods and the enemies and adventures are his imagination. If you are interested I'm interviewing people for the job now. (Have to sign an NDA. US residents preferred but not required.) PM me if interested! Thank you!
Also let me know if you are interested in alpha testing the game. ty
Im gonnae shet
do it
hey i want to add more dumb paintings to sdv and so far i have that, anyone has any suggestions? (so far suggestion-wise i have "a gigantic painting of lewis' shorts")
hm i wonder if i could make a convincing snorkel
also thank u! those are already published on nexus
those look great
ty!!
That's a neat idea. I wish I had the imagination and skill to try it for myself. The portraits, I mean.
Nice work.
Shane walking into that room be like:
I can totally see my character having a portrait of himself on the wall above his desk.
I knew a guy who had a portrait of himself above his desk and let me just say i immediately respected him a lot more
part of cny drawing
@shell notch
🗡️
Hmm yum
I crave sleep
be the sleep
Hmm. 🤔
Did this for fun a few days ago after watching a Metroid Prime 2 let's play. May or may not try adding more detail in the future.
I don't have a very steady hand. 😛
that's real cool, very dramatic looking
Thank you! 
That’s dooope
My farmer
I like it!
Evelyn's cookies!
Oh, I forgot to post this. Keychain's already seen it.
My first serious attempt at drawing a person.
His name's Nova because I'm imaginative like that. He likes nature and fishing.
better then mine
That is so cute! I love the little junimos
apples.
I like to think that it was taken by Haley and that she can't see the Junimos. So she got a surprise when she went to develop it or whatever.
Brah that's pretty decent
Thank you, Butch. The things you guys said mean a lot to me. I'm quite self conscious about my art. 😅
It’s very charming!
i really love all the little details on the stump and the little junimos! and that pose and anatomy is awesome, especially for a first attempt at drawing people :0 drawing cross-legged poses is HARD
That was actually my first serious attempt at a tree stump, come to think of it.
Thanks!
@jagged coral if you have the latest ver of stardew valley, you can put upur farmer in a dress for the dance! you have to make it and dye it yourself though
your*
def a white top and dress bottom you can get tho
drawing the world ends with you characters
I don't know what the hell you're using to draw these but it's hella cute
Oh is that pixel art?
Either way it's great homie
Omg luv it
Dodles
They look good!
Omg Meed I love them 
great arts!
another day another spamming deviantart with deviations since i never get on frequently
Nice doodles, Who is the girl on the bottom one?
She's my oc, stella is her temp name. She's a cleric with a celestial kind of theme
And ty!
Ohh I saw that one a long time ago on Reddit hehe
oh this is a dang reposter
here instead
Ohh thought the one you posted was the original instead of a repost hehe
Cute.
dear god,
u making me unable to draw was NOT very cash money of u. not gonna lie, bro :(
sincerely,
me
dear god,
this is why im an atheist. use ur abilities to do something . i am very lazy
sincerely,
me and also my hamster, norald.
Next drawing will be something cute. Pinkie promise. Just finished this though.
idk what ur talking about, that's very cute
😄
cuddly
he looks like my hamster, norald. i love.
You have a very strange hamster.
hes a littel different,,,,
gotta add some details and finish the base for it, but almost done 
one out of 10
did u do that whole pose from scratch?
woah thats wicked also i like your profile picture jev :))
ty i lov green
Brown Junimo draws best villager
https://twitter.com/chixistvl/status/1219550228598026242
No jev this is collectors edition k just paint them.
I usually do Warhammer so assemble parts + sculpt some extra elements by hand
it's another npc i've been working on so huh. hi
Woahhh. that’s looking hella dope, Asari!
thank you!! their name's kerbasi and they appear around the mines once you've finished them
They’re so cool!
Reminds me of the Novakids from Starbound for some reason.
ooh funky, never came across them
makes me wanna play that game
honestly it's just a funky shadow shaman
Tag yourself. I'm True Neutral (I would have wanted to make myself chaotic evil or something edgy, but I'm very basic.)
https://t.co/Z5YMQ0XmFV
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4994
Hmm im true neutral
I'm Chaotic Neutral
for once i am lawful good, this has never happened before
actually sometimes true neutral, but i'll take it
yeah same, I'm somewhere between lg and tn. closer to the tip than the first but further than the second
god i didn't even consider how far down they held the pen - i'm just straight up true neutral. dang it
Same kyndiberi.
Guess I'm true neutral
True neutral
My hell hand isn't on the chart
hell hand? 
: 0
need pics of yer hand
I'm lawful neutral. I press down on my ring finger hard
I don't draw but my natural pen holding appears to resemble chaotic neutral
Absolute gremlin
I get that a lot 

They don't have an alignment for me but if I did have one it'd prob be evil
excuse me
Sweats
My hand hurts just looking at that
I kinda can and can't compute.
I've written like this my whole life 😂
according to that chart im neutral evil
howncan yall write without habing it in your fingers
well i guess its true neutral too
feeb wtf
@lament turtle very interesting version of Abby 
thank you!! hope i can thru all these pixels at a decent speed so i can make it an actual mod soonish
ooo i'm working on mine aswell, it's a rly fun challange
i can't wait to see the finished version of yourss
I'm a sucker for night sky backgrounds so my opinion might be biased 
mood
woah thats so cool i thought it was a photo at first
I think part of it is photo and other part is painted over, at least that's what I think upon closer inspection
yeah, but at first i thought it was entirely a photo
This is the part i have painted
thats so GOOD
thank you!! Also Makro i add night sky backgrounds to everything so same lol XD
this is mine, gonna redo all the colours later tho in a less lazy way pfffff
it's a rly old selfie bcos i don't got a phone tho so kinda sad about that
damn thats cool as hell
Ohh, I love it! The way you drew the eye is so cool!
that's so fucking cool
i’m trying to design a cyberpunk character,, anyone point me at any references i can use to research the genre,, it’s so complex
Well the only cyberpunk game I've played is Va-11 hall-a, maybe take a peek at it? 😛 sorry I can't be of more help
I've found this with a google search
https://www.neondystopia.com/what-is-cyberpunk/
And damn, it's a pretty damn cool art concept
thank you! i’ll take a read. i’m so interested in the subgenre!!
It's very interesting indeed, hope to see what ideas you come up with for your OC!
just quick mouse doodle
LMAO i love it omg
uwu
snatcher is a classic cyberpunk game too if you want some more retro reference points @sick jackal
also unrelated but transparency is fun
oh looks amazing!
@shell notch
reeeeeeeeee

THAT IS VERY EPIC
Soooo, I have 2 ideas that could be added into the game..
- Butter, have the option to add it to certain meals and it gives a bonus of some sort
- Cornmeal, you put corn into the mill and pop cornmeal; THEN you use it to make corn bread (egg(s), milk, cornmeal) aaaaaaand it gets boosted (health, energy, what have you) when you add, what? BUTTER
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This is fascinating. In restoring this painting, the team discovered that the original face of the lamb had been painted over. And the original was intentionally unrealistic and super creepy. I wonder how often stuff like this happens when older art goes through the restoration process. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51205614?fbclid=IwAR2VgBxVetb7ZrnNHPsFPfN2Khea94LiTlUDRcNCSbAfUvtXERK4Af4nvIY
Wonder why did they bother to paint over the face of a painted lamb in the first place 
Ohh nevermind, I re-read what you say, I can see why now
Haha yeah. And when I first read the headline I thought it was like that one painting of Jesus where the person "restoring" it made it look ridiculous. But no. The original is super weird and they just brought it back that.
ikr? And the quality of the painting in general makes it pretty clear the artist did that on purpose, not just through lack of skill.
It's got this penetrating stare. Like we're all being judged.
I like it
"artist terrified of lambs, trying to hide the proof", 15th century
art's about expressing what you see. disgusting how it got changed to be 'realistic'
Maybe they thought it looked satanic or something like that and it got changed so the painter wouldn't be burned at the stake 
looks better than Cats 2019
Just put a human face on it ez
looks better than some medieval "babies"
ahhh my god theres icons in my church with the children and they have adult faces
Okay, to be fair, I am planning to make a stardew valley style game, people who do commissions, how much do you charge?
It depends on what you commission, I think.
i tend to charge based on how long it takes, as long as the person and i agree on how much per hour. 10 bucks an hour, takes 7 hours (of work, not including pauses ofcourse) then 70 bucks. if it takes 1 hour and a half, 15 bucks, etc.
How much would you charge for as many sprites as Stardew valley in the same style? (I need an estimate so I can even start planning that game)
how many sprites do sdv even have lol
Yeah, that is the thing, it's a lot. From the buildings, plants, furniture and the character sheets...
it depends on how long it'd take to make them all tbh and i got no clue how long it would take
The problem is, I plan something big. I want so much much artists just say "Nah, It is just too much, but I can do a few sprites for free"
The thing is I WANT to pay, I want quality and quantity and I don't really care how long it takes. But without even any estimates... I can't plan on anything.
"Nah, It is just too much, but I can do a few sprites for free" - Literary all of my art friends. What is like 10+ people.
i'd love to help you out tbh, i love pixelart etc, but if i don't know exactly whatchu want i can't rly help
I want to start out with a character generator, Then a random generated world, then citys, and multiple crafting stations, as well as animated magic spells.
Should be a top down RPG.
To be fair, the only part of that game that I want similar to stardew valley, is the art style.
do you then mean just pixelart, or the exact same style?
Not exacly. as long I like the style, something easier and more stylized would be fine too.
See above what happend.
"Nah, It is just too much, but I can do a few sprites for free" - Literary all of my art friends. What is like 10+ people.
Estimade: IDK estonian dollars.
Once again, not really any normal answer. So I am here, asking what your prices are.
Yeah, but where
Upwork is a better place to post longer term work
Once again... it all is so vague, and even so, It is one thing to get an estimate (what I have a god damn hard time with) and to actually get someone working for you.
i mean to be fair you are also being fairly vague
yeah, can only give rough estimates
My example was "I want to start out with a character generator, Then a random generated world, then citys, and multiple crafting stations, as well as animated magic spells.
Should be a top down RPG."
and yes it is vague, but I don't want to start working on it b4 knowing what it will cost me, because if I start a project I also want to finish it.
Piercing probs @ Axl
And, well, not running out of money is optional.
piercings lol
still, that's a vague description. how much would have to be done for a character generator, and what sprites do you need for the worlds and cities, etcetc
Something like in stardew valley. I do not know yet, that is why I say "Stardew vally like"
Just how much recreating all the sprites in a different style, how much would that cost?
yes, all of stardew valley. (I will no way need that much but still, yes, I'd like to know :D)
well i'm making a retexture for all the npcs, and that's gonna take a few months atleast, so it'd cost a lot. i haven't timed it though, but i think the abigail portrait and sprite bases each took maybe 4-5 hours?
so for my example previously i'd say probably 50 bucks for both portrait and sprite for 1 character
(if the agreed base is 10 dollars an hour)
I mean, yes, for the character generator, 500€ seems like a normal price. but I can not stand how much factors are at play and how hard it is to even get an estimate.
and you are going a bit overboard there.
it'd be easier to give an estimate if you knew how many assets you needed tbh
Yeah, I know but at the same time, I already said all sprites of stardew valley. It is quite likely I'd just hire a Pixel artist full time.
idk how many assets sdv got tbh lol, i just know it's a lot
Still, not really. "Copyright fees" if you hire someone working for you, mainly 10$/h full time, the copyright fees are included. Ugh, I hate business crap. I just want to make games.
make games with your own original designs then
Because business will be a huge deal of it unless you also hire people to handle that
Or develop for a company and work your way up
Or learn to do it yourself
You could also hire a commercial character designer but those don't come cheap
The thing is, I am just abysmal at art
Welcome to the business world
I've seen stick figures sell well
In the work environment I'm used to, we have a saying
"No excuses"
If you care about it, do it
If you don't want to do it, do you really even care?
Look at CA's progress and how many times he had to redo it
Portal and left 4 dead
Hence "commercial"
i mean 80k for a 3d model that is voiced and rigged isn't the same as sprites
If you want indie pixel art cut that in half or a third
yeah, 3D models are something else. + they included the story writing costs and ect too.
But at actual decent quality that's what you can expect
5 years I think? maybe a little more
Iirc it took a few years to do everything
Plus working side jobs
Wait, what is CA?
Concerned ape
ConcernedApe, the dev of Stardew Valley
You're in the stardew valley server
He did art, writing, coding, music, all by himself
Ahhh xD
And learned from the ground up
It's wired, I never seen him mentioned as CA
He was initially just a programmer iirc?
Yeah, so am I. Except I don't enjoy art, but that's what I have to do.
once again
3D, voiced, computer costs included.
Okay let me do it in my own commission terms
10 per character
Not 3d
Pixel
X 20 is 200
But
You'd want to use it COMMERCIALLY
times that by 10
2000
For characters alone
commercially
Is your keyword here
I see your point, and I know it isn't cheap. Still a single employee for a month is like 4.5K max. The thing is, on AAA like Portal at least 10 people work on a single character.
They broke down the costs
Did you read it?
Character design was 3k
Not even sprite work just design
For example, a concept artist would likely spend two weeks making the character design, with a salary cost of about $3,000. An effects artist creating impact weapon-swing and impact animations might also spend around two weeks on this particular task, with a salary cost of around $3,000.
Yes
yes, that is what I mean tough. everyone gets a salary of about 3K
Because designing and animating is rough
and at least 10 people work on a 3D character.
So cut that to a third
1000x20=20k
Even if you cut the 3k to a tenth because only one person was working on it, 300x20 is still 6k
There is so much wrong with that Calculation. What do you base it on?
and yes, 6K seems realistic, 2 months, yeah. That's about it.
Prices ive seen in the industry
Digipen institute of technology
Hosted by nintendo
Okay, I see.
https://2dwillneverdie.com/blog/how-much-do-sprites-cost/ another source if you'd like
The second source is more indie involved
Time that by three for commercial - Once again... why?
Because that would make it your intellectual property and you'd be free to monetize it yourself by including it in your game
Thanks everyone, finally some realistic estimates!
Well, that took a while
all of them
It largely varies
But I'd count with arround 50 000€ for the game
Yes, but still. Ugh.
Yes, like... really?
Yeah, I am still baffled.
same honestly, and i'm supposed to be an artist lol
It is a month of work. Like... 5000$ is like a FUCKING GOOD PAYCHECK. I could live with that for a year or two. But 50'000$ is... Sorry but it still sounds like a joke to me.
for commercial i'd probably charge double bcos i'm too much of a wuss to demand anything more, and even that sounds like a lot to me
ohboi
Have you checked out other game devs that you like? Some sites also have resources for players wanting to make their own games.
I keep thinking of Amaranth, but I lost a lot of links with this computer. Keep looking around, lots of resources are out there!
Lol yeah commercial prices are far higher than a private commission. You're setting up a job, not a one off order so be prepared to pay a lot for all the work that goes into it
It makes sense tbh
You're not just paying for the design, you're covering supplies, time, revisions, multiple multiple design passes and various tests. It's not as easy as getting handed a pretty package and slipping someone a cool 20
😩 art should be expensive bc it's a luxury and I'm v about that life
Not saying u don't respect it, just that creating is taxing and creatives deserve to be compensated as such. There's a lot more to it than what people expect
^ that. even just you knowing how much time and effort it would take to learn to make art of the calibre you want, and therefore pay instead, proves its value
I need some of that energy for tonight's art showwww ya binch wanna sell their shit
Stardew Valley took one guy several years to make
Getting one person to recreate the graphical design, interface and sprite art for a similar game is going to take massive amount of time
which is why its amazing SDV exists in the first place
and why it would be expensive to hire one artist to do it again.
if you were to make a smaller game, getting one or two people to help you with the art would be more reasonable, and if you wanted to, build the game up over time
also, using the same style would brand your game in the eyes of a consumer as a copycat, so it might be better to use a more simplistic style at first in order to separate your game from others on the market
In addition, if one artist were to recreate SDVs spritesheets, and you payed a lot for funds for it and then decided that actually, you wanted to make an RPG or a completely different game, it would be a big waste of time and resources for both parties.
in short: start small.
Also, think of hiring someone for $10 an hour. Lets say 10,000 sprites and an average of half an hour per sprite. 0.5*10,000 then *10 gets you to 50k
$10 is just over minimum wage where I'm from
It's under where I'm at so it's really location sensitive too
As much as I love the game, the system of how sprites and their animations work cause for a lot more effort required to make new NPCs and clothes right?
I think about the Flower Dance and how each frame of the dancers is a custom frame, and to allow the farmer to fully participate would require either new animation frames for every piece of clothing or find a way to animate the suit or dress and attach the farmer's head onto it. I might be wrong but that's the feel I'm getting here.
or just make a set of sprites with dress/suit for the farmer specifically yeah
Hellooooooo
I’m here to make a tiny request guys
Well maybe not tiny lol :c
And since my pc is broken I’m out of money for any design 😦
Sometimes coming up with a clear character pose is difficult. Here is a trick to help you find your poses more quickly. Leave the arms off!
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drawing a chibi verison of Gum from Jet Set Radio on my 3DS
Ty. I figured people would just assume it means "never draw arms"
rayman's designer voice this is a foolproof tip
Exactly. I saw that vid in my recommended and felt accomplished that i didn't need to watch it since i already figured it out lmao
That's a cool trick indeed, it helps when you don't know hot to place the arms and hands
made up this lil lullaby on my kalimba while thinking about stardew valley
(kalimbas are such soft intruments, which means they are difficult to record! especially with a crappy mic, so sorry about the quality)
anyways imma head to bed its 4 am and here i am just playing my kalimba 
Uploading a big boy today
I been meaning to fix this for a long time
big boy uploaded
No details? Okay here’s what I have in mind
I have a twitch series about a robot conquering the world
A high commander in super armor
A big rail gun
Here let me show you
He has this armor
He’s a robot, I can also provide a photo of the robot
He’s painted in black
okay but what exactly is your request
Well, I would like something simple, like a portrait of him or full body for a PFP
Like the one I have atm
But because he’s the main protagonist of my streams so far
Then he deserves to be my pfp lol
the arms video is nice, tho you can try to use stickman arms too tbh 😂
Sometimes you just gotta start with the worst thumbnail sketch imaginable to get an idea down 
I can’t draw for the life of me 😦
It takes a lot of practice and time but it's so satisfying when you nail down the design or the piece you were working on
you can always draw by starting with a single stroke
if going creative isn't your strong area at first, you can try to draw from observing something or photos
I can show such
I mean if you don't want to draw but you want an image you're just going to have to save up to commission someone (Tali)
I usually draw a 10 sec sketch for proportions. (Example)
And yes. I had to rush the hands.
Tbh they're not bad tho. I draw boxes with traingles in a rush lol
I think I might have to do Venn
But if someone could gimme a hand with that before
I would be very thankful
Yeah is it a request or commission
Yea the images provided were predominantly like, RIMWORLD/ Prison Architect kind of peg people and then like a full cartoon character reference
My pfp is from Starbound
Yes it’s a tiny request :c
I don’t have any art style in mind, so everything works with me ❤️
And yes, the images are from Rimworld
I like to stream Rimworld and such
And I have a campaign about a main protagonist who’s a robot and starts building robots and then... world conquering stuff
oh I see
I was confused how you would stream something that was your own story lololol
um, well most artists dont really do work for free
But, I have two requests slots available on my blog :) I don't know the scale of what you want but if its something small you could DM me there and I'll help you out
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link here...
that might be considered advertising
Well it’s not really that big, it would be a small pfp for it
Since those streams boosted my channel so hard lol
oh! great. 'll definitely be able to do you a profile pic
obvs if you dont like my art or my style u dont have to take my offer, my name on Tumblr is TheFloorIsKetchup, so take a look and see what you think ;;
aw thank :) yes thats it
I would be so thankful if you could take my request omg
gotcha, ill do my best then and get back to you when its done.
oh, well, thank you ^w^
yea 3 colours only
WOW
pretty pretty i love the coat and the clothes
woahh
Lyell is my favorite oc of mine im so happy with him ;-;
you should be he's so cool looking
Those lil profile pics are so cool lorax! I dig the pixel art vibe :>
clown akdjjdkdjdj holy shit that’s rly fucking good the shading and highlights??? goals
dghkdfsgds
that FASHION
thank you omg
i tried so hard on this its been a good year since i really drew something seriously
❤️ thank you 

of course ❤️❤️❤️
pls ping me when you finish it if it’s not any trouble! I can’t wait to see the finished result :>
oh god the chat moved on whoops
lyell 🙌
Uhm should I add some pixels where the circle is (his cloak is supposed to be blowing to the left) or is it fine
Kk
you could make it more of a swirl, or a point, at the corner of the cloak
im sorry if that doesnt make much sense im not very good at explaning
maybe a little smaller, but i can tell its moving with the wind way more now
yeah! looks great :))
Btw this two things on his stomach are his hands
i assumed so
Thank you!
AMAYZ
That lil touch on the left is v nice, it kind of mimics and extends the curve on the bottom right and gives it some life and dynamic ;0
that looks a lot better zaktorin! i can really see the movement now
wip
hell yea dont starve
@fading hawk woah he looks great!!
lyell has rlly grown since the last time ive seen him heh
why is making music so harddddd
@lament turtle thank you I appreciate that a lot!!!

Miaw got infected with virus miaw
miaw~
miaw~
anybody know of some creative/work with your hands type things that aren't too hard on the body?
I'd love if I could make some money on it as well
stuff in the realm of woodworking
clay, perhaps? that's the least taxing kind of 'physical' art I can think of
^ one of my friends who has worse carpal tunnel than I do does clay works, but can only work on them two-three hours at a time
All creative things hurt ur hands if you don't take care of urself. Trust
I like to amuse myself with drawing really damn ugly concept sketches lmao
As for the real sketch
Just waiting on advice for the eyes and what mouth I should go for
fabulous
hehe, reminds me of that artist who renders beautiful photorealistic renaissance style paintings but their sketches are stick people with random captions
Sweats and looks at my sketches
she’s a queen I lov ;0
Slight updates. Her face is not final, I'm a little stuck on what to do with her jaw and her wings straight up arent there yet
But it doesn't have to be finished for a while so I can take a break.

Flooded Shrine by NostalgicTree
https://www.deviantart.com/nostalgictree/art/Flooded-Shrine-828140848
(not actually a gif)
Does anyone else have this experience where you get super excited at a piece of art, then suddenly remember it's yours and then you can't like it the same. It's also so weird to not have any memory of making something. Is this what getting old is like
Lol
I'm serious though, I'm approaching the 30s LOL
i can relate to not having memory of making something
i get surprised all the time
@bitter canyon Can you do haley in gameboy style
ik nostalgic hes a cool dude
hey
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@atomic elbow i was just watching a video that brought some awareness to the trouble SCP is going through and in the video he also talked about the huge pixel art collab. I looked in the credits and saw your name and I was like, wow, what a small world!!! Great work on the collab and I'm excited to read through everything. The art's gorgeous and inspiring.
yeah i'm basic 
i was the one who led the collab so im so happy to see it getting traction
yeah it's awesome! i've been meaning to get into SCP stuff and the collab i think will make it a lot easier, i've just been staring at the art for a while LOL. i'm sure lots of other people felt the same too
i'm glad you and everyone else involved are getting some exposure 
i wish he had credited better in the video though
i havent gotten a single new twitter follower 😔
you got an extra one now though i really should've followed a while ago
i always like seeing your pixel art progress and your sketches
im probably not gonna be doing much pixelart anymore honestly
occasionally
i wanna be a concept artist so thats why i sketch so much
well hey, do what makes you happy! i wish you the best on your ventures in being a concept artist
i think your sketches are great too
ty
i made a comment on the markiplier video too but it got like 30 likes while all the wacky meme comments got 1k
the life of an artist
yeah it's true unfortunately, youtube comment sections be like that
i wish i could link the site here but it's got some potential nsfw stuff. for anyone else reading in this channel though you should definitely check out the SCP art collab. full of great art and the corresponding articles, which are all really interesting and fun to read. they're good if you like to read horror, but not all of them are like that; SCP goes into the world of the weird and strange, and not everything weird and strange is evil!
Would anyone here be willing to beta-read a SDV fic I'm writing?
How long is it, is it explicit, what genre is it, etc
Need info but yea I love reading
It's not very long right now, I just have a few chapters written. It's gonna be long though, but I'd only give you one chapter at a time, as I was getting ready to post it. As for genre, I guess romance? One of those typical new farmer moves to the valley type things, except with a heavy focus on the wizard, as she (she's trans in this) is the love interest. It isn't going to be explicit. IDK, any more questions?
sure elon :o haley would be very fun!
Oh this is a time budget related question
The how long is it-- "will read, just need to know how much time to budget"
Or at least partially that
well yea if someone said read this 100k fic I'd be like maybe not
Yah thats very understandable
You can send it to me or post it here
okay, thanks! let me clean up the first chapter and then I'll send it to you
good luck with your fanfic! if you post it online you're welcome to share it in creative
happy to see fanfic writers
i know, right?
(loud jet dragon noises)
(even louder cleric noises)
wings are hard, yo
woah thats wicked cool :))
i love those wings// im not sure if youre going for this but they look almost mechanical? like not natural wings, like birds or dragons (as natural as dragons can be, anyway), but maybe leather/ man-made
Honestly, that'd be better. The girl is still meant to be human
But also the wings of the dragon they belong to is a living fighter jet
Im not kidding
Cutscene intro of Valstrax on the Nintendo Switch in 1080p. MHGU MHXX Switch Monster Hunts.
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wait wait so the girls wings arent natrually her wings theyre from a dragon? but that dragon is um a living fighter jet (mechanical?)
Yeah Im still working that out myself lmao
I might have the wings be a mechanical remake of the actual dragon's wings
ok well if youre going for mechanical i think you're mostly there already :))
@waxen magnet Awesome job on your toonme drawing!
Thankya 
does this look like it's underwater?
what can I do to make it look... more... underwater?
I mean now that I've been told it's underwater I can't see it as anything but that.
I am trying to do a snorkeling thing
with pokemon
Want to draw a Corsola on the bottom
like
someone up at the "surface" seeing a corsola and pointing at it
or something
Hm
I could try bubbles
I don't know what I am doing at all right now, haha
Once there's characters and we can see the distortion it's going to be pretty clear
it does seen like underwater without doubt once theres someting up top!
^
you can do this
i think it conveys being underwater really well!!
Thanks 🙂
We'll see if I can pull off the rest of it
I'm terrible at drawing people and I rarely draw in general... never done anything like this before
so uh
yeah
we will see
aaa I'm sure itll turn out great!!
I appreciate the confidence you have in me that I don't have in myself, haha
Wishiwashi are in
looks very pretty!
thanks
calling it a night here. Not really liking the fact that the Corsola doesn't blend with the rest of the drawing-- would love some tips on that from anyone 🙂
Blur it just slightly?
Hey, digital artist types and animators, I want to get a tablet and I want to make a very simple animation of a character doing three things: winking with sparkles, blowing a kiss, and waving a wand. What kind of tablets (in general) and art program for animation do you recommend?
Huion has good tablets for a much lower price than wacom. Do research on how some models work with different programs.
I have an itty bitty Huion. It was enough to start my redbubble but it’s a pain
About how big is it?
I just need it to do three things: wink, blow a kiss, and wave a wand
I can live without a screen
My drawing space is about the size of an index card though
i have a medium wacom intuos and its pretty nice
I dislike that very much
my tablet before that was a small wacom bamboo tablet that lasted me 10 yrs
no exaggeration
Oh wow
it still works too it's just old
but yeah a medium tablet isnt extreme in price and i think you might like the spacr
even so one thing nice about those tablets is that normal phone cords can work with them if your original cord breaks
tho that might apply to a lot of tablets im not sure
I’m trying to plan on how to use my tax return to make my life better and so far that has been rolling kitchen island for space, getting Pocket fixed so no more yowling, a set of pots and pans (maybe dishware too) and a tablet
I had a wacom intuos 5 small and it cramped my hand bad
I have a intuos and it was nice but a binch need a screen. It gets the job done just don't expect a lot of working room
@waxen magnet hell your wip is so smooth and looks so awesome (the wip from Jan 25 thought xd) 
Then do it 
I use one
i imagine theyre disorienting at first
im not in a rush to get a screen tablet but i would like to try one out someday
Its nice for lineart since im used to drawing by hand
and eaiser for me to track lineart from sketch
but when i color, i look at regular screen anyways 
I want one some day but a color accurate monitor is just cheaper
A lot of screen tablets have issues with color settings and vibrancy
I like screen tablets cause I like seeing what I draw? I've used two so far but I rly like my iPad for portability reasons
Regular tablets were fine but I think my work looks better when I can see what I'm doing directly
a wip
im taking a break to eat but thats what ive been working on for the past 30 mins
YES ITS LYELL WOOOO
UuU
I would die for Lyell no questions asked
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(tw: nosebleed!!!!) drew this lady for a much bigger drawing, any thoughts on how i could make it better?
thought of adding tears/sweet but i cant nail the color/pattern on them so im moving in with drawing the actual focus of the drawing
maybe change the nose color so the nosebleed is more obvious???
?
i think the lighter color you proposed looks better
using white as sweat (if you don't fill in the line) might look good, or very light/faded blue for tears
(if you want to try it again)
i'll try that next time i keep going
I do think that Huion has been a good competitor for a while. Wacom recently released the Wacom One which is a budget monitor tablet at "only" 400 dollars for a 13.3 inch screen. Huion has recently developed battery-free pens and tilt recognition and better color quality on slimmer and lighter hardware.
Don't want to sound like some paid spokesperson but I've been an advocate for Wacom getting some competition and seeing them finally countering with their own competitively-priced product.
Admittedly if or when I have the budget I'd get an actual Cintiq but my point still stands.
i was like "how is 400 budget" but then i see it's a screen tablet
that's good, i'm glad there's some healthy competition
i didn't know colors was an issue for screen tablets actually but to be fair i never really thought i'd be able to afford one. maybe i can in time tho!
i'm really picky about it to an unnecessary degree. as long as you have a good monitor you can just correct them but i like seeing exactly what color i use as i draw. my laptop monitor made coloring a pain because it's unsaturated compared to most screens
im actually experiencing something similar
i have 3 monitors and if i swap SAI between monitors the color looks completely diff lol
i dont know which one is real!!!!
how do i know im seein the same colors y'all see

same. first time i realized was when i colored my farmer for the first time and her skin was yellow when i was going for a tan look 
I think there's some sort of device or something that helps you calibrate monitor color, but it might be expensive.
yeah those calibrators are out there but they're outrageously expensive, and the next natural thought of realising colours show up differently on your screens is......... you have no way to know if the people viewing your content have calibrated monitors. they probably don't
this might sound kinda neurotic but i generally check character colour palettes on about six - ten different devices before committing to them. i pull up the palette on other people's phones, computer and tablet screens, etc and check how they look
I don't really get how a monitor or computer as a whole can calibrate itself.
How does it know it's outputting the right color?
Or what it thinks is the color it's outputting is the same I see?
i don't think they can? i believe that's why you have to buy the device or bring the pro in
the device checks set colours based on those numbered codes you can put into the colour picker, and then tells you the necessary adjustments to make for the output to correspond to how the colour actually looks
i think. not sure on that i've never had it done
I imagine that's how it works.
I try to stick to how I see colors on my monitor since it's well calibrated but I always do double check on phone
Colors might be bit brighter there but I can see some errors I didn't catch on monitor bc of that
I'll be real i have never done anuthing to check colors
i just know my phone, tv, and comp are different (comp looks the best next to phone which shows cokors a bit kore vibrantly)
how does one draw eyes that fits the character..? I always end up drawing BIG eyes making everything look awkward..
tried to draw smaller eyes and it didn't work very well.. :c
just draw them medium then
proportion guidelines might help
it all really depends on your style though
yeah my style is.. weird
if we’re talking realism, eyes are usually the same distance apart as they are across
my style often changes slightly depending on what kind of drawing I want tbh..
maybe I should practise drawing realistic eyes, I'm not sure if that would help in drawing non-realistic characters
i draw my eyes based on the characters personality or something defining about them, like if theyre tired i make them have bags and a downward tilt and kinda half-lidded, or if theyre innocent i give them wide eyes etc etc
it does help with non realistic characters!
it's always good to learn the rules before you can break them, so if you learn more about how the eye looks you can better change it to fit your style
knowing parts of the eye too
all my eyes look the same
which is why im actually putting together a collage of eyes from a bunch of differnt artists/media atm
aw best of luck with that! i need to practice too
When drawing more realistic eyes it helps you learn the structure better
You dont have to focus on photorealism to gain that knowledge. I took 10000 years to realize that
woah thanks for letting me know!! then I should practice xD
Y'all can I get some pings
orange
shirt and kilt. @devout bridge
boy ;0
@devout bridge tsundere
Secretly a depressed demon from hell
looks nice
im succ at coloring other than eyes
i gave up coloring eyes and i dont know why
^
like the eyes are super detailed and then its like block color
Welp i can get serious on it but as this is just free doodling i wont lol
it looks good slime lmao
Thnx uwu
Hand tips:
-pinky until middle fingers often follow same pattern
-index finger is the most unique which can express many situations just with index and thumb
-thumb is static, rarely moved from its original spot
-hand follow trapezoidal patter
also wrist lines up w crotch
I find that using your own hand as reference is simple and effective for practice
I cant use my dwarf hand lol
How 2 hand, just put them out of frame or make them circles like a mii
Or just dont draw people because it’s hard

i used to just make them put their hands behind thier back (the charactr)
viable option, but cant put em off screen everytime u draw 😂
scrolls up to Haley sketch in Creative.
SHE.
oh god hands and feet are my nightmares
I'm imagining you literally having nightmares about hands and feet chasing you
It took a good 5 years before i began to get decent at drawing hands
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Literally perfection
y'all know these types of drawings? I feel like mine looks off and im not sure why
there's the obvious parts where I messed up but other than that there's something wrong
totes focused on my dnd rn 
Finished sketch!
Also very nice work, all! Though Pirek, is that a mask he's wearing?
would emote artists be interested in this tool? it's been sitting in my dead projects folder but was wondering if i should revive it or just release it as is https://t.co/XKtNNuHKdA
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Literally no idea how to compose music but I'm writing about it anyway
would emote artists be interested in this tool? it's been sitting in my dead projects folder but was wondering if i should revive it or just release it as is https://t.co/XKtNNuHKdA
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You can do it solo!!!
work in progress
👀 i love the poses

whoa
😳
that's awesome
@brittle mist when using water color, how do you mix colors?
In a separate pan or palette, add a few drops of water, depending on how light you want the color
I use the lid of my paints
Then use your brush to get some paint and put it in the water
Clean off the brush, and mix in the other color
I just learned from youtube, im not an expert
ah, thank you for the detailed reply.
in hs I just get one color with my brush then stick it in another color, i remember my teacher hated it, but can't remember a better way xD
learning from youtube is best 💯 I learned how to grow ginger and how to make bracelets from youtube XD
@novel iron learning from bob ross is good too
yessss
Hint hint, that one good painting i did from him
With watercolor no less
I tried lmao
thank you!!
love the colors, too. it natually combines many colors in 1 pic 👏
the whole painting is good but your colours arent that high of quality
get some more expensive colours
aka higher quality
you can see that in the clouds especially cuz they didnt blend very well and water colours are made to blend
depends on the style they are going for
@stray turtle i can only afford $6 michaels brand watercolor palettes
It’s not really a huge hobby of mine that i want to delve much further into, id rather spend my money on violin lessons
I'm very new to trying to draw translucent creatures but I think this looks okay so far. Going to try colouring it soon.
looks like a plankton or something like it
Thank you!
it cool
For some reason I always find the inking part satisfying to do.
my farmer erin training my friend's farmer skye how to use a firearm (zombie survival au) :V
Cute!
aw that's so cute i love it
we've been obsessed with this AU
writing a big story and how it'll end
its a lot of fun lol
I always focus on au's instead of actual story stuff 
its starting to become that for us hahha
Fucking around with perspective. (Something that i know nearly nothing about) lol
Tryna figure out that roof is killing me :/
you could try to place your two vantage points further apart
drawing the entire "box" of the house ie not just the edges you can see might also help
then you could draw an X on each face of the box to figure out where the midpoint is
from here you can go for a gable roof which is easier
but from your sketch it looks more like a hip style roof where it's a bit trickier and i think you just kinda have to eyeball it?
i kind of messed up that back further in the back
sorry i probably should have asked if you wanted this kind of an explanation ><
i don't mean to be pushy or anything you did a really good job on it!
discord's being weird with images but i personally learned something from your suggestion so thank you for sharing!
Sweats can any of y'all help me price smth
Colouring done. Might add a background eventually but for now, I'm happy with this.
ranodm doodling
https://www.deviantart.com/kibbitzer/art/Feet-Reference-321767782
check this out! They also have a bunch of other refs that you might wanna look at
@maiden agate hi! jokes are fun and all but ones about that kind of topic aren't quite appropriate in this server.
@hard lynx oh im sorry, it wont happen again
❤️ no problem you're okay!
@hard lynx 
Can anyone remember by name redpixl in this server who make nice beats in spotify, i think he change his name i can't find him 🤷♀️
Is it @ red
Nvm, i found his twitter 
Crap a lot
use ur own hands!
^
use your own hand. look at and draw your off hand as a model
i have double jointed fingers and lock my fingers in place when trying to sketch hands ^^
If you have someone, someone else hands
You can be more creative on the way the hand looks
and try taking the most "simple" poses as well since those are actually pretty complicated sksk
I really like drawing eyes and hands tbh
Some tutorials online, start with boxes as reference
Reference based in reality is the most accurate reference we can fathom
@lament turtle also why don't you try picture tutorials, there are a lot in pintrest : D
omg that whale 😆
nice sketches key and neat pixels argen!
man, u stop looking at creative for a bit and are suddenly overwhelmed by all the nice art, you guys aere all amazing
lineart time for this lass

babby
Baby babs hair is fab
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HEres part one of me drawing it
Ooooh
Abi-whale
(This isn't mine it's just from the above picture)
I just wanted to make the pun
Wait are those pictures all puns?
Oh, they are.
Well let me see if I can name them all:
- Abi-sale
- Abi-Quail(?)
- Abi-Whale
- Abi-Bale
- Abi-Mail
- Abi-Nail
- Abi-Snail
- Abi-Trail
- Abi-Fail
Should draw her as a gust of wind and call her Abi-gale.
Just finished watching the video, clown!
thanks for sharing! I hope one day I'll be as good as drawing as u are! 
LOL PEZZO
yes they are all puns
u did good figuring most of them out
@tawny lynx Abi-Quail is actually AbiTail/AbiTails (its Tails from Sonic lolol)
hi im making a paypal acc for pixel art and i need help ._. do i make it a business acc or personal and if im making a business acc what do i select as my business ?
plz tag me
if it's for art commissions, ofc business acc
and be sure to use invoice for payment
but someone on deviant art i think said use a personal acc for hobby style art
you should
and if i do use a business acc what type of business should it be?
business is only if youre running a fulltime proper business
im not ._.
i would do personal
only when people ask me or to make some money on the side
while most of deviantart journal I've seen suggest me to use business account instead 
I'm not sure if your hobby style art includes commissions, but if it does, I suggest take business acc
payment without invoice is prone to credit card chargeback
what type of business acc?
digital goods media and stuff
oh right, digital goods
you mean personal acc and business acc? .-.
ye
tbf I kinda put all of my paypal stuff, business or not in one account but it's up to you I guess
if I remember it right it's still allowed to have 2 different account 
your kinda right ima keep it only business acc
Use a personal account unless you expect to make a lot of money (in the thousands)
You can invoice on personal
Business accounts have fees that you don't need to pay if ur not getting a big amount of coms
"Hobby jobs" get weird like that.
There's a neat guide.
So yeah, low overhead art selling would probably fit within that definition up to the point you go professional full time assuming you get there.
I have a question for commission artists! When you typically take commissions what kind of/how much detail do you prefer?
thats a pretty vague and opinionated question. id imagine most people will work it out on a per customer basis
when i commission ppl i more often times give them the character refs and give them a vague description and then i let them use the freedom to make something unique
it depends on what both the customer and artist want
i tend to enjoy it when ppl give me specific details cuz i want to be sure 100% theyre getting what they want, unless they specifically tell me to go crazy
ayayayyaya im getting proficient at using csp 3d models to make my own poses
Small sketch before working on a bigger canvas
The best pie eater out there
cutie~!

cronch
Tasty
That lil owl can't finish that whole pie, surely lmao
also body done except her hand
nice outfit!
Very nice
im hollow now
oh gorgeous detail
Holy shit thats incredible!
can post screen shots of my wip i have here? I'm currently working on it and would love to show progress and get some tis on how the heccin hecc to draw harvey
No
Of course!
cool ^^
Your welcome
( spoiler because of the line art features wounds. nothing detailed or to bad how ever 1/2 Magnus farmer/oc
2/2 very rough lan sketch of Harv. He's going to be a bit behind magnus! The stance looks awkward in sketch form but i'm hoping i can get it looking a bit more natural.
Harvey and Magnus together, both fully lined. now i just have to rough up harvey and sketch out the plans for both the foreground and background. ( spoiler again because of non graphic wounds.
Any opinions Or critiques? It’s from the owl house
I like it a lot
So who is Magnus, a stand?
I'd like to know, also- but it looks really cool
Your lines are very confident which is good, and I haven't watched the Owl house but Id say it's very close to the style :)
As a critique, perhaps composition-wise, the image feels a little cramped. The character is sort of leaning to the left in disgust, but the background shape is also at that angle, comprising the balance of the drawing. In short, perhaps next time if you were to draw something similar, don't be afraid to use space. Move the title a little further from the character and use a rectangle that is not tilted to stabilise the image. 
Pezzo and joe, Magnus is part of a species I created called DreamCatchers. They're protection spirits that live inside their name sakes!
And thanks jev! The wings took me ages to do because I had to hunt down another effort for them lol
i'm searching some feedbacks, mostly on the color of the flowers (is it ok ? does it need more contrast ?) and the leaves (enough ? need more ?)
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