#creative-discussion

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lament turtle
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oh hell yeah

nova parcel
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okay thanks!

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My...... Computer restarted

unkempt tinsel
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they look good to me!

nova parcel
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autosaved!

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we're good!

glossy steppe
unkempt tinsel
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oh dang nice mouth

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looks good to me

lusty hull
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Looks great

urban minnow
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i like the line variation, its great!

urban minnow
mighty bronze
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Meed aaaart is 10outof10

tawny lynx
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Is there a Stardew Drawpile?

glacial fox
tawny lynx
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Niiiiice.

fringe shell
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how do y’all draw so GOOD

stray turtle
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you have to have a lot of passion for art and draw a lot and a lot and a lot and after that you draw a lot

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like my good friend said when your wrists hurt from drawing that isnt a sign that you should stop but a sign that you just got started

lament turtle
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@lament turtle it is against our rules to talk down on someone's work and/or give unwanted criticism

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you can express your opinion but should ask first if it is a critique

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either way just saying someone's drawing is "meh" is not a critique & doesn't help anyone

devout bridge
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If your wrist hurts absolutely stop and take a break. Even if it's just a 10 minute stretch out make sure ur health comes first

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I developed a bad case of carpal and tennis elbow bc I put my deadlines before my health and I'm still paying for it

thick relic
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Hey 'yall, I'm looking for a few creative writers to review the story script for the game that I'm making. It's a game about a little boy growing up in a small ocean-side town who goes out into the woods and the enemies and adventures are his imagination. If you are interested I'm interviewing people for the job now. (Have to sign an NDA. US residents preferred but not required.) PM me if interested! Thank you!

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Also let me know if you are interested in alpha testing the game. ty

devout bridge
lament turtle
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do it

tacit timber
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hey i want to add more dumb paintings to sdv and so far i have that, anyone has any suggestions? (so far suggestion-wise i have "a gigantic painting of lewis' shorts")

unkempt tinsel
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oh i love those

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maybe an underwater pufferchick?

tacit timber
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hm i wonder if i could make a convincing snorkel

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also thank u! those are already published on nexus

daring escarp
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those look great

tacit timber
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ty!!

calm tiger
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That's a neat idea. I wish I had the imagination and skill to try it for myself. The portraits, I mean.

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Nice work.

tawny lynx
calm tiger
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I can totally see my character having a portrait of himself on the wall above his desk.

lament turtle
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I knew a guy who had a portrait of himself above his desk and let me just say i immediately respected him a lot more

shell notch
lusty hull
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juicy meat

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a part of a scene?

shell notch
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part of cny drawing

glacial fox
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GWnyannKannaLick @shell notch

shell notch
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🗡️

unkempt hill
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Hmm yum

devout bridge
shell notch
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be the sleep

unkempt hill
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Hmm. 🤔

calm tiger
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Did this for fun a few days ago after watching a Metroid Prime 2 let's play. May or may not try adding more detail in the future.

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I don't have a very steady hand. 😛

lusty hull
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that's real cool, very dramatic looking

calm tiger
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Thank you! SDVpufferheart

spiral knoll
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That’s dooope

lament turtle
calm tiger
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I like it!

lament turtle
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Thanks.SDVpufferowo

calm tiger
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Evelyn's cookies!

calm tiger
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My first serious attempt at drawing a person.

lament turtle
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cutie

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what's his name what does he like

calm tiger
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His name's Nova because I'm imaginative like that. He likes nature and fishing.

weary geyser
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better then mine

lament turtle
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That is so cute! I love the little junimos

weary geyser
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apples.

calm tiger
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I like to think that it was taken by Haley and that she can't see the Junimos. So she got a surprise when she went to develop it or whatever.

rustic sphinx
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Brah that's pretty decent

calm tiger
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Thank you, Butch. The things you guys said mean a lot to me. I'm quite self conscious about my art. 😅

formal prairie
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It’s very charming!

ember sequoia
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i really love all the little details on the stump and the little junimos! and that pose and anatomy is awesome, especially for a first attempt at drawing people :0 drawing cross-legged poses is HARD

calm tiger
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That was actually my first serious attempt at a tree stump, come to think of it.

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Thanks!

unkempt tinsel
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@jagged coral if you have the latest ver of stardew valley, you can put upur farmer in a dress for the dance! you have to make it and dye it yourself though

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your*

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def a white top and dress bottom you can get tho

raw dragon
rustic sphinx
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I don't know what the hell you're using to draw these but it's hella cute

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Oh is that pixel art?

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Either way it's great homie

lament turtle
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Omg luv it

raw dragon
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I use Aesprite for pixel art

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anyways thanks~

urban minnow
unkempt hill
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They look good!

mighty bronze
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Omg Meed I love them BlobAdore

unkempt tinsel
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great arts!

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another day another spamming deviantart with deviations since i never get on frequently

lusty hull
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Nice doodles, Who is the girl on the bottom one?

urban minnow
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She's my oc, stella is her temp name. She's a cleric with a celestial kind of theme

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And ty!

onyx island
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Ohh I saw that one a long time ago on Reddit hehe

devout stream
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oh this is a dang reposter

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here instead

onyx island
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Ohh thought the one you posted was the original instead of a repost hehe

devout stream
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i thought it was too

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but nope

calm tiger
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Cute.

sick jackal
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dear god,
u making me unable to draw was NOT very cash money of u. not gonna lie, bro :(
sincerely,
me

lament turtle
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dear you,
practice!
sincerely,
god

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swish swash i command thee to draw

sick jackal
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dear god,
this is why im an atheist. use ur abilities to do something . i am very lazy
sincerely,
me and also my hamster, norald.

calm tiger
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Next drawing will be something cute. Pinkie promise. Just finished this though.

lament turtle
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idk what ur talking about, that's very cute

calm tiger
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😄

lament turtle
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cuddly

sick jackal
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he looks like my hamster, norald. i love.

calm tiger
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You have a very strange hamster.

sick jackal
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hes a littel different,,,,

lone mountain
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ngl i think its cute too SDVsadcat2

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in a macabre way

waxen magnet
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gotta add some details and finish the base for it, but almost done pirekluvsit

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one out of 10

lone mountain
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did u do that whole pose from scratch?

ember zealot
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woah thats wicked also i like your profile picture jev :))

lone mountain
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ty i lov green

tired wagon
waxen magnet
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No jev this is collectors edition k just paint them.

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I usually do Warhammer so assemble parts + sculpt some extra elements by hand

tacit timber
spiral knoll
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Woahhh. that’s looking hella dope, Asari!

tacit timber
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thank you!! their name's kerbasi and they appear around the mines once you've finished them

spiral knoll
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They’re so cool!

calm tiger
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Reminds me of the Novakids from Starbound for some reason.

tacit timber
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ooh funky, never came across them

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makes me wanna play that game

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honestly it's just a funky shadow shaman

stable elbow
unkempt hill
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Hmm im true neutral

kindred scaffold
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I'm Chaotic Neutral

lament turtle
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for once i am lawful good, this has never happened before

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actually sometimes true neutral, but i'll take it

ancient prawn
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yeah same, I'm somewhere between lg and tn. closer to the tip than the first but further than the second

fleet gazelle
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Lawful neutral

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Or chaotic neutral

lament turtle
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god i didn't even consider how far down they held the pen - i'm just straight up true neutral. dang it

tranquil eagle
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Same kyndiberi.

onyx island
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Guess I'm true neutral

grim tangle
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True neutral

devout bridge
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My hell hand isn't on the chart

lament turtle
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hell hand? monkaW

tranquil eagle
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: 0

lament turtle
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need pics of yer hand

lusty hull
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I'm lawful neutral. I press down on my ring finger hard

lament turtle
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I don't draw but my natural pen holding appears to resemble chaotic neutral

devout bridge
ancient prawn
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w

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what

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holy shit

devout bridge
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I get that a lot SDVpuffersweats

tranquil eagle
devout bridge
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They don't have an alignment for me but if I did have one it'd prob be evil

half kite
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excuse me

devout bridge
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Sweats

urban minnow
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My hand hurts just looking at that

tranquil eagle
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I kinda can and can't compute.

lament turtle
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omg feeb delivered with the hand pic

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bless you

devout bridge
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I've written like this my whole life 😂

half kite
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seek jesus, cursed one

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or an exorcism

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that also works

unkempt tinsel
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according to that chart im neutral evil

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howncan yall write without habing it in your fingers

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well i guess its true neutral too

candid citrus
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feeb wtf

exotic wren
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@lament turtle very interesting version of Abby ablobattention

lament turtle
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thank you!! hope i can thru all these pixels at a decent speed so i can make it an actual mod soonish

lament turtle
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ooo i'm working on mine aswell, it's a rly fun challange

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i can't wait to see the finished version of yourss

onyx island
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I'm a sucker for night sky backgrounds so my opinion might be biased LUL

lament turtle
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mood

ember zealot
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woah thats so cool i thought it was a photo at first

onyx island
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I think part of it is photo and other part is painted over, at least that's what I think upon closer inspection

ember zealot
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yeah, but at first i thought it was entirely a photo

ripe thicket
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This is the part i have painted

ember zealot
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thats so GOOD

ripe thicket
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thank you!! Also Makro i add night sky backgrounds to everything so same lol XD

lament turtle
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this is mine, gonna redo all the colours later tho in a less lazy way pfffff

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it's a rly old selfie bcos i don't got a phone tho so kinda sad about that

candid citrus
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damn thats cool as hell

ripe thicket
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Ohh, I love it! The way you drew the eye is so cool!

tacit timber
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that's so fucking cool

sick jackal
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i’m trying to design a cyberpunk character,, anyone point me at any references i can use to research the genre,, it’s so complex

onyx island
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Well the only cyberpunk game I've played is Va-11 hall-a, maybe take a peek at it? 😛 sorry I can't be of more help

sick jackal
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thank you! i’ll take a read. i’m so interested in the subgenre!!

onyx island
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It's very interesting indeed, hope to see what ideas you come up with for your OC!

unkempt tinsel
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those toonmes look really awesome!

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ooooooooooooh

shell notch
unkempt tinsel
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LMAO i love it omg

shell notch
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uwu

proper crystal
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snatcher is a classic cyberpunk game too if you want some more retro reference points @sick jackal

unkempt tinsel
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oh looks amazing!

glacial fox
shell notch
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reeeeeeeeee

fleet gazelle
cobalt plank
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THAT IS VERY EPIC

tired oar
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Soooo, I have 2 ideas that could be added into the game..

  1. Butter, have the option to add it to certain meals and it gives a bonus of some sort
  2. Cornmeal, you put corn into the mill and pop cornmeal; THEN you use it to make corn bread (egg(s), milk, cornmeal) aaaaaaand it gets boosted (health, energy, what have you) when you add, what? BUTTER
tired wagon
hot river
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This is fascinating. In restoring this painting, the team discovered that the original face of the lamb had been painted over. And the original was intentionally unrealistic and super creepy. I wonder how often stuff like this happens when older art goes through the restoration process. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51205614?fbclid=IwAR2VgBxVetb7ZrnNHPsFPfN2Khea94LiTlUDRcNCSbAfUvtXERK4Af4nvIY

BBC News

A project to restore the Ghent Altarpiece, a 15th Century masterpiece, surprises art critics.

onyx island
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Wonder why did they bother to paint over the face of a painted lamb in the first place LUL

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Ohh nevermind, I re-read what you say, I can see why now

hot river
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Haha yeah. And when I first read the headline I thought it was like that one painting of Jesus where the person "restoring" it made it look ridiculous. But no. The original is super weird and they just brought it back that.

candid citrus
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a prey eyes are always side facing

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original lamb was a predator 😳

hot river
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ikr? And the quality of the painting in general makes it pretty clear the artist did that on purpose, not just through lack of skill.

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It's got this penetrating stare. Like we're all being judged.

lusty hull
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I like it

tacit timber
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"artist terrified of lambs, trying to hide the proof", 15th century

half kite
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art's about expressing what you see. disgusting how it got changed to be 'realistic'

onyx island
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Maybe they thought it looked satanic or something like that and it got changed so the painter wouldn't be burned at the stake omegaLUL

candid citrus
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i'm convinced some old painters just couldn't do animals

lusty hull
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looks better than Cats 2019

hollow summit
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Just put a human face on it ez

ancient prawn
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looks better than some medieval "babies"

ember zealot
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ahhh my god theres icons in my church with the children and they have adult faces

half kite
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oh no no no

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that sounds terrifying

ember zealot
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its so scary

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and theres so many

heady wren
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Okay, to be fair, I am planning to make a stardew valley style game, people who do commissions, how much do you charge?

halcyon bronze
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It depends on what you commission, I think.

lament turtle
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i tend to charge based on how long it takes, as long as the person and i agree on how much per hour. 10 bucks an hour, takes 7 hours (of work, not including pauses ofcourse) then 70 bucks. if it takes 1 hour and a half, 15 bucks, etc.

heady wren
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How much would you charge for as many sprites as Stardew valley in the same style? (I need an estimate so I can even start planning that game)

lament turtle
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how many sprites do sdv even have lol

heady wren
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Yeah, that is the thing, it's a lot. From the buildings, plants, furniture and the character sheets...

lament turtle
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it depends on how long it'd take to make them all tbh and i got no clue how long it would take

heady wren
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The problem is, I plan something big. I want so much much artists just say "Nah, It is just too much, but I can do a few sprites for free"
The thing is I WANT to pay, I want quality and quantity and I don't really care how long it takes. But without even any estimates... I can't plan on anything.

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"Nah, It is just too much, but I can do a few sprites for free" - Literary all of my art friends. What is like 10+ people.

lament turtle
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i'd love to help you out tbh, i love pixelart etc, but if i don't know exactly whatchu want i can't rly help

heady wren
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I want to start out with a character generator, Then a random generated world, then citys, and multiple crafting stations, as well as animated magic spells.
Should be a top down RPG.
To be fair, the only part of that game that I want similar to stardew valley, is the art style.

lament turtle
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do you then mean just pixelart, or the exact same style?

heady wren
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Not exacly. as long I like the style, something easier and more stylized would be fine too.

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See above what happend.

"Nah, It is just too much, but I can do a few sprites for free" - Literary all of my art friends. What is like 10+ people.

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Estimade: IDK estonian dollars.

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Once again, not really any normal answer. So I am here, asking what your prices are.

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Yeah, but where

urban minnow
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Upwork is a better place to post longer term work

heady wren
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Once again... it all is so vague, and even so, It is one thing to get an estimate (what I have a god damn hard time with) and to actually get someone working for you.

lament turtle
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i mean to be fair you are also being fairly vague

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yeah, can only give rough estimates

heady wren
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My example was "I want to start out with a character generator, Then a random generated world, then citys, and multiple crafting stations, as well as animated magic spells.
Should be a top down RPG."
and yes it is vague, but I don't want to start working on it b4 knowing what it will cost me, because if I start a project I also want to finish it.

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Piercing probs @ Axl

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And, well, not running out of money is optional.

lament turtle
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piercings lol

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still, that's a vague description. how much would have to be done for a character generator, and what sprites do you need for the worlds and cities, etcetc

heady wren
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Something like in stardew valley. I do not know yet, that is why I say "Stardew vally like"

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Just how much recreating all the sprites in a different style, how much would that cost?

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yes, all of stardew valley. (I will no way need that much but still, yes, I'd like to know :D)

lament turtle
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well i'm making a retexture for all the npcs, and that's gonna take a few months atleast, so it'd cost a lot. i haven't timed it though, but i think the abigail portrait and sprite bases each took maybe 4-5 hours?

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so for my example previously i'd say probably 50 bucks for both portrait and sprite for 1 character

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(if the agreed base is 10 dollars an hour)

heady wren
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I mean, yes, for the character generator, 500€ seems like a normal price. but I can not stand how much factors are at play and how hard it is to even get an estimate.

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and you are going a bit overboard there.

lament turtle
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it'd be easier to give an estimate if you knew how many assets you needed tbh

heady wren
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Yeah, I know but at the same time, I already said all sprites of stardew valley. It is quite likely I'd just hire a Pixel artist full time.

lament turtle
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idk how many assets sdv got tbh lol, i just know it's a lot

heady wren
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Still, not really. "Copyright fees" if you hire someone working for you, mainly 10$/h full time, the copyright fees are included. Ugh, I hate business crap. I just want to make games.

rich delta
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make games with your own original designs then
Because business will be a huge deal of it unless you also hire people to handle that
Or develop for a company and work your way up
Or learn to do it yourself

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You could also hire a commercial character designer but those don't come cheap

heady wren
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The thing is, I am just abysmal at art

rich delta
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Welcome to the business world

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I've seen stick figures sell well

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In the work environment I'm used to, we have a saying
"No excuses"
If you care about it, do it
If you don't want to do it, do you really even care?
Look at CA's progress and how many times he had to redo it

heady wren
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Portal and left 4 dead

rich delta
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Hence "commercial"

lament turtle
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i mean 80k for a 3d model that is voiced and rigged isn't the same as sprites

rich delta
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If you want indie pixel art cut that in half or a third

heady wren
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yeah, 3D models are something else. + they included the story writing costs and ect too.

rich delta
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But at actual decent quality that's what you can expect

onyx island
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5 years I think? maybe a little more

rich delta
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Iirc it took a few years to do everything
Plus working side jobs

heady wren
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Wait, what is CA?

rich delta
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Concerned ape

onyx island
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ConcernedApe, the dev of Stardew Valley

rich delta
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You're in the stardew valley server

onyx island
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He did art, writing, coding, music, all by himself

heady wren
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Ahhh xD

rich delta
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And learned from the ground up

heady wren
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It's wired, I never seen him mentioned as CA

rich delta
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He was initially just a programmer iirc?

heady wren
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Yeah, so am I. Except I don't enjoy art, but that's what I have to do.

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once again

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3D, voiced, computer costs included.

rich delta
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Okay let me do it in my own commission terms
10 per character
Not 3d
Pixel
X 20 is 200
But
You'd want to use it COMMERCIALLY

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times that by 10

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2000

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For characters alone

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commercially
Is your keyword here

heady wren
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I see your point, and I know it isn't cheap. Still a single employee for a month is like 4.5K max. The thing is, on AAA like Portal at least 10 people work on a single character.

rich delta
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They broke down the costs

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Did you read it?

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Character design was 3k

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Not even sprite work just design

heady wren
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For example, a concept artist would likely spend two weeks making the character design, with a salary cost of about $3,000. An effects artist creating impact weapon-swing and impact animations might also spend around two weeks on this particular task, with a salary cost of around $3,000.

rich delta
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Yes

heady wren
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yes, that is what I mean tough. everyone gets a salary of about 3K

rich delta
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Because designing and animating is rough

heady wren
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and at least 10 people work on a 3D character.

rich delta
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So cut that to a third

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1000x20=20k

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Even if you cut the 3k to a tenth because only one person was working on it, 300x20 is still 6k

heady wren
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There is so much wrong with that Calculation. What do you base it on?

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and yes, 6K seems realistic, 2 months, yeah. That's about it.

rich delta
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Prices ive seen in the industry
Digipen institute of technology
Hosted by nintendo

heady wren
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Okay, I see.

rich delta
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The second source is more indie involved

heady wren
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Time that by three for commercial - Once again... why?

onyx island
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Because that would make it your intellectual property and you'd be free to monetize it yourself by including it in your game

rich delta
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Commercial use is different from personal

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You learn this is business and economics

heady wren
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Thanks everyone, finally some realistic estimates!

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Well, that took a while

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all of them

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It largely varies

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But I'd count with arround 50 000€ for the game

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Yes, but still. Ugh.

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Yes, like... really?

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Yeah, I am still baffled.

lament turtle
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same honestly, and i'm supposed to be an artist lol

heady wren
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It is a month of work. Like... 5000$ is like a FUCKING GOOD PAYCHECK. I could live with that for a year or two. But 50'000$ is... Sorry but it still sounds like a joke to me.

lament turtle
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for commercial i'd probably charge double bcos i'm too much of a wuss to demand anything more, and even that sounds like a lot to me

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ohboi

oblique escarp
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Have you checked out other game devs that you like? Some sites also have resources for players wanting to make their own games.
I keep thinking of Amaranth, but I lost a lot of links with this computer. Keep looking around, lots of resources are out there!

devout bridge
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Lol yeah commercial prices are far higher than a private commission. You're setting up a job, not a one off order so be prepared to pay a lot for all the work that goes into it

heady wren
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Well, I'll make my own.

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But the prices really blew my mind

devout bridge
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It makes sense tbh

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You're not just paying for the design, you're covering supplies, time, revisions, multiple multiple design passes and various tests. It's not as easy as getting handed a pretty package and slipping someone a cool 20

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😩 art should be expensive bc it's a luxury and I'm v about that life

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Not saying u don't respect it, just that creating is taxing and creatives deserve to be compensated as such. There's a lot more to it than what people expect

half kite
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^ that. even just you knowing how much time and effort it would take to learn to make art of the calibre you want, and therefore pay instead, proves its value

devout bridge
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I need some of that energy for tonight's art showwww ya binch wanna sell their shit

halcyon bronze
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Stardew Valley took one guy several years to make

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Getting one person to recreate the graphical design, interface and sprite art for a similar game is going to take massive amount of time

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which is why its amazing SDV exists in the first place

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and why it would be expensive to hire one artist to do it again.

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if you were to make a smaller game, getting one or two people to help you with the art would be more reasonable, and if you wanted to, build the game up over time

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also, using the same style would brand your game in the eyes of a consumer as a copycat, so it might be better to use a more simplistic style at first in order to separate your game from others on the market

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In addition, if one artist were to recreate SDVs spritesheets, and you payed a lot for funds for it and then decided that actually, you wanted to make an RPG or a completely different game, it would be a big waste of time and resources for both parties.

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in short: start small.

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Also, think of hiring someone for $10 an hour. Lets say 10,000 sprites and an average of half an hour per sprite. 0.5*10,000 then *10 gets you to 50k

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$10 is just over minimum wage where I'm from

devout bridge
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It's under where I'm at so it's really location sensitive too

tawny lynx
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As much as I love the game, the system of how sprites and their animations work cause for a lot more effort required to make new NPCs and clothes right?

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I think about the Flower Dance and how each frame of the dancers is a custom frame, and to allow the farmer to fully participate would require either new animation frames for every piece of clothing or find a way to animate the suit or dress and attach the farmer's head onto it. I might be wrong but that's the feel I'm getting here.

lament turtle
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or just make a set of sprites with dress/suit for the farmer specifically yeah

mint kiln
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Hellooooooo

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I’m here to make a tiny request guys

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Well maybe not tiny lol :c

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And since my pc is broken I’m out of money for any design 😦

urban minnow
azure nightBOT
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Drawing Hands Detached from the Body [ 51,079 views | 4.99 rating w/ 6,428 likes (15 dislikes) | Duration: 11m2s | Uploaded: 2020-01-21 by The Art of Aaron Blaise ]

onyx island
raw dragon
urban minnow
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Ty. I figured people would just assume it means "never draw arms"

tacit timber
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rayman's designer voice this is a foolproof tip

halcyon bronze
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Exactly. I saw that vid in my recommended and felt accomplished that i didn't need to watch it since i already figured it out lmao

ripe thicket
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That's a cool trick indeed, it helps when you don't know hot to place the arms and hands

fringe coyote
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(kalimbas are such soft intruments, which means they are difficult to record! especially with a crappy mic, so sorry about the quality)

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anyways imma head to bed its 4 am and here i am just playing my kalimba SDVpuffernight

pulsar sky
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big boy uploaded

mint kiln
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No details? Okay here’s what I have in mind

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I have a twitch series about a robot conquering the world

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A high commander in super armor

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A big rail gun

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Here let me show you

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He’s a robot, I can also provide a photo of the robot

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He’s painted in black

lament turtle
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okay but what exactly is your request

mint kiln
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Well, I would like something simple, like a portrait of him or full body for a PFP

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Like the one I have atm

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But because he’s the main protagonist of my streams so far

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Then he deserves to be my pfp lol

glacial fox
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the arms video is nice, tho you can try to use stickman arms too tbh 😂

urban minnow
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Sometimes you just gotta start with the worst thumbnail sketch imaginable to get an idea down KatLUL

mint kiln
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I can’t draw for the life of me 😦

normal glacier
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It takes a lot of practice and time but it's so satisfying when you nail down the design or the piece you were working on

glacial fox
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you can always draw by starting with a single stroke

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if going creative isn't your strong area at first, you can try to draw from observing something or photos

heady wren
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I can show such

halcyon bronze
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I mean if you don't want to draw but you want an image you're just going to have to save up to commission someone (Tali)

heady wren
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And yes. I had to rush the hands.

halcyon bronze
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Tbh they're not bad tho. I draw boxes with traingles in a rush lol

heady wren
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Nice :D

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I better go

mint kiln
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I think I might have to do Venn

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But if someone could gimme a hand with that before

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I would be very thankful

halcyon bronze
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What do you mean @mint kiln?

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(by wanting someone to give you a hand)

devout bridge
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Yeah is it a request or commission

lament turtle
halcyon bronze
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Yea the images provided were predominantly like, RIMWORLD/ Prison Architect kind of peg people and then like a full cartoon character reference

mint kiln
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My pfp is from Starbound

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Yes it’s a tiny request :c

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I don’t have any art style in mind, so everything works with me ❤️

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And yes, the images are from Rimworld

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I like to stream Rimworld and such

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And I have a campaign about a main protagonist who’s a robot and starts building robots and then... world conquering stuff

halcyon bronze
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oh I see

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I was confused how you would stream something that was your own story lololol

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um, well most artists dont really do work for free

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But, I have two requests slots available on my blog :) I don't know the scale of what you want but if its something small you could DM me there and I'll help you out

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I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link here...

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that might be considered advertising

mint kiln
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Well it’s not really that big, it would be a small pfp for it

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Since those streams boosted my channel so hard lol

halcyon bronze
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oh! great. 'll definitely be able to do you a profile pic

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obvs if you dont like my art or my style u dont have to take my offer, my name on Tumblr is TheFloorIsKetchup, so take a look and see what you think ;;

mint kiln
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Sip responsibly?

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If so then your art is amazing bro!

halcyon bronze
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aw thank :) yes thats it

mint kiln
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I would be so thankful if you could take my request omg

halcyon bronze
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okie dokie, and you're welcome :)

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Do you want pixel art or regular smooth lines?

mint kiln
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Mhmm

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I guess... smooth lines?

halcyon bronze
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gotcha, ill do my best then and get back to you when its done.

mint kiln
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Sorry :c

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Don’t know the difference too much lol

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Thank you ❤️

halcyon bronze
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oh, well, thank you ^w^

stray turtle
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i started making pfps for some people i know

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do they look good?

ember zealot
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those are so cute i love them

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and i like the minimal colors

stray turtle
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yea 3 colours only

fading hawk
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A wip of my farmer

stray turtle
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WOW

ember zealot
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pretty pretty i love the coat and the clothes

fading hawk
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thank you!!!

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face close up for you guys cause im so fucking happy with it

ember zealot
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woahh

fading hawk
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Lyell is my favorite oc of mine im so happy with him ;-;

ember zealot
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you should be he's so cool looking

shadow sail
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Those lil profile pics are so cool lorax! I dig the pixel art vibe :>

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clown akdjjdkdjdj holy shit that’s rly fucking good the shading and highlights??? goals

fading hawk
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dghkdfsgds

shadow sail
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that FASHION

fading hawk
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thank you omg

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i tried so hard on this its been a good year since i really drew something seriously

shadow sail
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yeah it looks really amazing!!!!

fading hawk
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❤️ thank you sadboi

stray turtle
shadow sail
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of course ❤️❤️❤️

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pls ping me when you finish it if it’s not any trouble! I can’t wait to see the finished result :>

fading hawk
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yeah i will if i remember

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: )

halcyon bronze
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oh god the chat moved on whoops

strong ingot
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lyell 🙌

halcyon bronze
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loove the colouring style

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so much life in your drawing too <3

stray turtle
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gn

mystic elm
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Uhm should I add some pixels where the circle is (his cloak is supposed to be blowing to the left) or is it fine

ember zealot
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try it and see how it looks

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i think it'd look good

mystic elm
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Kk

ember zealot
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you could make it more of a swirl, or a point, at the corner of the cloak

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im sorry if that doesnt make much sense im not very good at explaning

mystic elm
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That makes sense to me

ember zealot
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maybe a little smaller, but i can tell its moving with the wind way more now

mystic elm
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Ok

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Like this?

ember zealot
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yeah! looks great :))

mystic elm
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Btw this two things on his stomach are his hands

ember zealot
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i assumed so

mystic elm
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Thank you!

shadow sail
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AMAYZ

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That lil touch on the left is v nice, it kind of mimics and extends the curve on the bottom right and gives it some life and dynamic ;0

ember sequoia
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that looks a lot better zaktorin! i can really see the movement now

waxen magnet
devout stream
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hell yea dont starve

lament turtle
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@fading hawk woah he looks great!!

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lyell has rlly grown since the last time ive seen him heh

mighty bronze
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Woodie!!!!

fringe coyote
fading hawk
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@lament turtle thank you I appreciate that a lot!!!

shell notch
unkempt hill
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Oh wow

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Miaw~

shell notch
unkempt hill
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Miaw got infected with virus miaw

shell notch
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miaw~

unreal stream
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miaw~

normal jewel
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anybody know of some creative/work with your hands type things that aren't too hard on the body?

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I'd love if I could make some money on it as well

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stuff in the realm of woodworking

half kite
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clay, perhaps? that's the least taxing kind of 'physical' art I can think of

rich delta
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^ one of my friends who has worse carpal tunnel than I do does clay works, but can only work on them two-three hours at a time

devout bridge
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All creative things hurt ur hands if you don't take care of urself. Trust

unreal stream
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I like to amuse myself with drawing really damn ugly concept sketches lmao

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Just waiting on advice for the eyes and what mouth I should go for

unkempt tinsel
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fabulous

halcyon bronze
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hehe, reminds me of that artist who renders beautiful photorealistic renaissance style paintings but their sketches are stick people with random captions

devout bridge
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Sweats and looks at my sketches

shadow sail
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she’s a queen I lov ;0

unreal stream
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Slight updates. Her face is not final, I'm a little stuck on what to do with her jaw and her wings straight up arent there yet

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But it doesn't have to be finished for a while so I can take a break.

mighty bronze
tired wagon
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(not actually a gif)

lusty hull
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Does anyone else have this experience where you get super excited at a piece of art, then suddenly remember it's yours and then you can't like it the same. It's also so weird to not have any memory of making something. Is this what getting old is like

mystic elm
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Lol

lusty hull
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I'm serious though, I'm approaching the 30s LOL

unkempt tinsel
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i can relate to not having memory of making something

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i get surprised all the time

fallow star
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@bitter canyon Can you do haley in gameboy style

stray turtle
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ik nostalgic hes a cool dude

north coral
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hey

tired wagon
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Hi Kevin, welcome to the server! If you're looking for a general chat you probably want #town-square, and you can check #445729591533764620 to see what each channel is for :)

unkempt tinsel
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@atomic elbow i was just watching a video that brought some awareness to the trouble SCP is going through and in the video he also talked about the huge pixel art collab. I looked in the credits and saw your name and I was like, wow, what a small world!!! Great work on the collab and I'm excited to read through everything. The art's gorgeous and inspiring.

atomic elbow
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its the markiplier one right

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lol

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yeah ive been freaking out all day

unkempt tinsel
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yeah i'm basic imcry

atomic elbow
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i was the one who led the collab so im so happy to see it getting traction

unkempt tinsel
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yeah it's awesome! i've been meaning to get into SCP stuff and the collab i think will make it a lot easier, i've just been staring at the art for a while LOL. i'm sure lots of other people felt the same too

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i'm glad you and everyone else involved are getting some exposure meowheart

atomic elbow
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i wish he had credited better in the video though

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i havent gotten a single new twitter follower 😔

unkempt tinsel
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you got an extra one now though i really should've followed a while ago

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i always like seeing your pixel art progress and your sketches

atomic elbow
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im probably not gonna be doing much pixelart anymore honestly

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occasionally

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i wanna be a concept artist so thats why i sketch so much

unkempt tinsel
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well hey, do what makes you happy! i wish you the best on your ventures in being a concept artist

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i think your sketches are great too

atomic elbow
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ty

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i made a comment on the markiplier video too but it got like 30 likes while all the wacky meme comments got 1k

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the life of an artist

unkempt tinsel
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yeah it's true unfortunately, youtube comment sections be like that

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i wish i could link the site here but it's got some potential nsfw stuff. for anyone else reading in this channel though you should definitely check out the SCP art collab. full of great art and the corresponding articles, which are all really interesting and fun to read. they're good if you like to read horror, but not all of them are like that; SCP goes into the world of the weird and strange, and not everything weird and strange is evil!

lament turtle
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Would anyone here be willing to beta-read a SDV fic I'm writing?

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How long is it, is it explicit, what genre is it, etc

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Need info but yea I love reading

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It's not very long right now, I just have a few chapters written. It's gonna be long though, but I'd only give you one chapter at a time, as I was getting ready to post it. As for genre, I guess romance? One of those typical new farmer moves to the valley type things, except with a heavy focus on the wizard, as she (she's trans in this) is the love interest. It isn't going to be explicit. IDK, any more questions?

bitter canyon
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sure elon :o haley would be very fun!

lament turtle
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?

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I meant like word count

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But sure I will read

tepid carbon
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Oh this is a time budget related question

lament turtle
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Wat

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ah- rn 2, 3k, in the end 50k ish

tepid carbon
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The how long is it-- "will read, just need to know how much time to budget"

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Or at least partially that

lament turtle
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well yea if someone said read this 100k fic I'd be like maybe not

tepid carbon
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Yah thats very understandable

lament turtle
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You can send it to me or post it here

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okay, thanks! let me clean up the first chapter and then I'll send it to you

unkempt tinsel
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good luck with your fanfic! if you post it online you're welcome to share it in creative

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happy to see fanfic writers

lament turtle
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yesss

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I need to write something SDV related

devout stream
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proof that abby is a goddess

ember zealot
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holy-

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THATS AMAZING

devout stream
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i know, right?

unreal stream
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(loud jet dragon noises)
(even louder cleric noises)

wings are hard, yo

ember zealot
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woah thats wicked cool :))

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i love those wings// im not sure if youre going for this but they look almost mechanical? like not natural wings, like birds or dragons (as natural as dragons can be, anyway), but maybe leather/ man-made

unreal stream
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Honestly, that'd be better. The girl is still meant to be human

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But also the wings of the dragon they belong to is a living fighter jet

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Im not kidding

azure nightBOT
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Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate: Valstrax Cutscene Intro [ 81,157 views | 4.93 rating w/ 1,211 likes (18 dislikes) | Duration: 57s | Uploaded: 2018-08-29 by Boss Fight Database ]

ember zealot
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wait wait so the girls wings arent natrually her wings theyre from a dragon? but that dragon is um a living fighter jet (mechanical?)

unreal stream
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Yeah Im still working that out myself lmao
I might have the wings be a mechanical remake of the actual dragon's wings

ember zealot
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ok well if youre going for mechanical i think you're mostly there already :))

tired wagon
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@waxen magnet Awesome job on your toonme drawing!

waxen magnet
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Thankya pirekluvsit

shy walrus
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what can I do to make it look... more... underwater?

hollow coral
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bubbles?

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it looks rlly good though!

past musk
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maybe lilypads on top?

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ya! Im with mocha

tawny lynx
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I mean now that I've been told it's underwater I can't see it as anything but that.

shy walrus
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I am trying to do a snorkeling thing

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with pokemon

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Want to draw a Corsola on the bottom

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like

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someone up at the "surface" seeing a corsola and pointing at it

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or something

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Hm

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I could try bubbles

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I don't know what I am doing at all right now, haha

ancient prawn
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Once there's characters and we can see the distortion it's going to be pretty clear

shy walrus
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just blobs that I can reference later

past musk
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it does seen like underwater without doubt once theres someting up top!

hollow coral
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^

shy walrus
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Thanks

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I don't think it'll turn out looking that good

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but I will try my best

past musk
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SDVpufferaww you can do this

lament turtle
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i think it conveys being underwater really well!!

hollow coral
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^^^ 💕

shy walrus
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Thanks 🙂

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We'll see if I can pull off the rest of it

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I'm terrible at drawing people and I rarely draw in general... never done anything like this before

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so uh

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yeah

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we will see

hollow coral
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aaa I'm sure itll turn out great!!

shy walrus
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I appreciate the confidence you have in me that I don't have in myself, haha

hollow coral
shy walrus
past musk
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looks very pretty!

shy walrus
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thanks

shy walrus
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calling it a night here. Not really liking the fact that the Corsola doesn't blend with the rest of the drawing-- would love some tips on that from anyone 🙂

tawny lynx
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Blur it just slightly?

shy walrus
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That might work

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I'll try that tomorrow

round sage
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Hey, digital artist types and animators, I want to get a tablet and I want to make a very simple animation of a character doing three things: winking with sparkles, blowing a kiss, and waving a wand. What kind of tablets (in general) and art program for animation do you recommend?

urban minnow
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Huion has good tablets for a much lower price than wacom. Do research on how some models work with different programs.

round sage
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I have an itty bitty Huion. It was enough to start my redbubble but it’s a pain

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About how big is it?

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I just need it to do three things: wink, blow a kiss, and wave a wand

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I can live without a screen

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My drawing space is about the size of an index card though

unkempt tinsel
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i have a medium wacom intuos and its pretty nice

round sage
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I dislike that very much

unkempt tinsel
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my tablet before that was a small wacom bamboo tablet that lasted me 10 yrs

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no exaggeration

round sage
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Oh wow

unkempt tinsel
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it still works too it's just old

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but yeah a medium tablet isnt extreme in price and i think you might like the spacr

round sage
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That’s good at least

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I’ll look into it

unkempt tinsel
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even so one thing nice about those tablets is that normal phone cords can work with them if your original cord breaks

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tho that might apply to a lot of tablets im not sure

round sage
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I’m trying to plan on how to use my tax return to make my life better and so far that has been rolling kitchen island for space, getting Pocket fixed so no more yowling, a set of pots and pans (maybe dishware too) and a tablet

unkempt tinsel
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aw nice!

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good plans

urban minnow
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I had a wacom intuos 5 small and it cramped my hand bad

unkempt tinsel
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aw rip

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that doesnt sound good

devout bridge
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I have a intuos and it was nice but a binch need a screen. It gets the job done just don't expect a lot of working room

ancient blade
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@waxen magnet hell your wip is so smooth and looks so awesome (the wip from Jan 25 thought xd) GWmroIllyaUwaa

waxen magnet
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oh i never uploaded full version

ancient blade
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Then do it SDVpufferthumbsup

waxen magnet
devout stream
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my intuos is p epic

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da dream is an actual screen tablet tho

waxen magnet
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I use one

lament turtle
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i tbh don't see the big deal with screen tablets

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atleast not for me lol

unkempt tinsel
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i imagine theyre disorienting at first

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im not in a rush to get a screen tablet but i would like to try one out someday

waxen magnet
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Its nice for lineart since im used to drawing by hand

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and eaiser for me to track lineart from sketch

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but when i color, i look at regular screen anyways baka

unkempt tinsel
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oooh

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yeah sounds nice for lineart for sure

urban minnow
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I want one some day but a color accurate monitor is just cheaper

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A lot of screen tablets have issues with color settings and vibrancy

devout bridge
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I like screen tablets cause I like seeing what I draw? I've used two so far but I rly like my iPad for portability reasons

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Regular tablets were fine but I think my work looks better when I can see what I'm doing directly

fading hawk
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im taking a break to eat but thats what ive been working on for the past 30 mins

ember zealot
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YES ITS LYELL WOOOO

fading hawk
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UuU

spiral knoll
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I would die for Lyell no questions asked

azure nightBOT
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Kayuk - Sheep [ 47 views | 5 rating w/ 9 likes (0 dislikes) | Duration: 2m56s | Uploaded: 2020-01-17 by Kayuk ]

stray turtle
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a song my friend made

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plz show him some love

blazing timber
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(tw: nosebleed!!!!) drew this lady for a much bigger drawing, any thoughts on how i could make it better?

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thought of adding tears/sweet but i cant nail the color/pattern on them so im moving in with drawing the actual focus of the drawing

arctic ingot
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maybe change the nose color so the nosebleed is more obvious???

blazing timber
unkempt tinsel
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i think the lighter color you proposed looks better

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using white as sweat (if you don't fill in the line) might look good, or very light/faded blue for tears

(if you want to try it again)

blazing timber
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i'll try that next time i keep going

tawny lynx
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I do think that Huion has been a good competitor for a while. Wacom recently released the Wacom One which is a budget monitor tablet at "only" 400 dollars for a 13.3 inch screen. Huion has recently developed battery-free pens and tilt recognition and better color quality on slimmer and lighter hardware.

Don't want to sound like some paid spokesperson but I've been an advocate for Wacom getting some competition and seeing them finally countering with their own competitively-priced product.

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Admittedly if or when I have the budget I'd get an actual Cintiq but my point still stands.

unkempt tinsel
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i was like "how is 400 budget" but then i see it's a screen tablet

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that's good, i'm glad there's some healthy competition

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i didn't know colors was an issue for screen tablets actually but to be fair i never really thought i'd be able to afford one. maybe i can in time tho!

urban minnow
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i'm really picky about it to an unnecessary degree. as long as you have a good monitor you can just correct them but i like seeing exactly what color i use as i draw. my laptop monitor made coloring a pain because it's unsaturated compared to most screens

devout stream
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im actually experiencing something similar

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i have 3 monitors and if i swap SAI between monitors the color looks completely diff lol

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i dont know which one is real!!!!

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how do i know im seein the same colors y'all see

urban minnow
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same. first time i realized was when i colored my farmer for the first time and her skin was yellow when i was going for a tan look SDVsobastian

tawny lynx
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I think there's some sort of device or something that helps you calibrate monitor color, but it might be expensive.

pastel nimbus
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yeah those calibrators are out there but they're outrageously expensive, and the next natural thought of realising colours show up differently on your screens is......... you have no way to know if the people viewing your content have calibrated monitors. they probably don't

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this might sound kinda neurotic but i generally check character colour palettes on about six - ten different devices before committing to them. i pull up the palette on other people's phones, computer and tablet screens, etc and check how they look

tawny lynx
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I don't really get how a monitor or computer as a whole can calibrate itself.

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How does it know it's outputting the right color?

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Or what it thinks is the color it's outputting is the same I see?

pastel nimbus
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i don't think they can? i believe that's why you have to buy the device or bring the pro in

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the device checks set colours based on those numbered codes you can put into the colour picker, and then tells you the necessary adjustments to make for the output to correspond to how the colour actually looks

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i think. not sure on that i've never had it done

tawny lynx
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I imagine that's how it works.

waxen magnet
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I try to stick to how I see colors on my monitor since it's well calibrated but I always do double check on phone

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Colors might be bit brighter there but I can see some errors I didn't catch on monitor bc of that

unkempt tinsel
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I'll be real i have never done anuthing to check colors

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i just know my phone, tv, and comp are different (comp looks the best next to phone which shows cokors a bit kore vibrantly)

pale trout
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how does one draw eyes that fits the character..? I always end up drawing BIG eyes making everything look awkward..

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tried to draw smaller eyes and it didn't work very well.. :c

candid citrus
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just draw them medium then

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proportion guidelines might help

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it all really depends on your style though

pale trout
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yeah my style is.. weird

candid citrus
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if we’re talking realism, eyes are usually the same distance apart as they are across

pale trout
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my style often changes slightly depending on what kind of drawing I want tbh..

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maybe I should practise drawing realistic eyes, I'm not sure if that would help in drawing non-realistic characters

ember zealot
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i draw my eyes based on the characters personality or something defining about them, like if theyre tired i make them have bags and a downward tilt and kinda half-lidded, or if theyre innocent i give them wide eyes etc etc

unkempt tinsel
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it does help with non realistic characters!

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it's always good to learn the rules before you can break them, so if you learn more about how the eye looks you can better change it to fit your style

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knowing parts of the eye too

lone mountain
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all my eyes look the same

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which is why im actually putting together a collage of eyes from a bunch of differnt artists/media atm

unkempt tinsel
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aw best of luck with that! i need to practice too

urban minnow
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When drawing more realistic eyes it helps you learn the structure better

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You dont have to focus on photorealism to gain that knowledge. I took 10000 years to realize that

pale trout
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woah thanks for letting me know!! then I should practice xD

devout bridge
unkempt tinsel
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@devout bridge nerf gun

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if not nerf gun, manta ray. i just wanted to be silly emotions

urban minnow
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orange

tranquil eagle
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shirt and kilt. @devout bridge

hard lynx
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@devout bridge egg tart

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Or idk a normal person name like henrik

tacit timber
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i vote for egg tart

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also, pink and curly

drifting pelican
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boy ;0

devout stream
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@devout bridge tsundere

ancient prawn
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Secretly a depressed demon from hell

shell notch
sly prism
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looks nice

shell notch
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im succ at coloring other than eyes

ember zealot
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i gave up coloring eyes and i dont know why

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^

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like the eyes are super detailed and then its like block color

shell notch
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Welp i can get serious on it but as this is just free doodling i wont lol

ember zealot
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it looks good slime lmao

shell notch
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Thnx uwu

lyric sluice
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hope this helps @lament turtle

shell notch
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Hand tips:
-pinky until middle fingers often follow same pattern
-index finger is the most unique which can express many situations just with index and thumb
-thumb is static, rarely moved from its original spot
-hand follow trapezoidal patter

ember zealot
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also wrist lines up w crotch

lyric sluice
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I find that using your own hand as reference is simple and effective for practice

shell notch
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I cant use my dwarf hand lol

brittle mist
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How 2 hand, just put them out of frame or make them circles like a mii

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Or just dont draw people because it’s hard

ember zealot
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i used to just make them put their hands behind thier back (the charactr)

shell notch
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viable option, but cant put em off screen everytime u draw 😂

lament compass
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scrolls up to Haley sketch in Creative.

SHE.

weary geyser
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oh god hands and feet are my nightmares

lament turtle
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I'm imagining you literally having nightmares about hands and feet chasing you

weary geyser
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I hate drawing them

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the only thing i'm good at drawing are manga girls

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idk why

barren sedge
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It took a good 5 years before i began to get decent at drawing hands

mighty bronze
azure nightBOT
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Tones and I - Dance Monkey 🎧 [ 4,524,464 views | 4.93 rating w/ 310,849 likes (4,199 dislikes) | Duration: 1m59s | Uploaded: 2020-01-14 by Bongo Cat ]

mighty bronze
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Literally perfection

stray turtle
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something im making for a good friend who tought me that good pixel art

ember zealot
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y'all know these types of drawings? I feel like mine looks off and im not sure why

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there's the obvious parts where I messed up but other than that there's something wrong

waxen magnet
unreal stream
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Also very nice work, all! Though Pirek, is that a mask he's wearing?

stable elbow
lament turtle
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Literally no idea how to compose music but I'm writing about it anyway

stable elbow
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You can do it solo!!!

waxen magnet
hard lynx
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👀 i love the poses

shell notch
mighty bronze
weary geyser
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whoa

devout stream
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😳

weary geyser
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that's awesome

novel iron
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@brittle mist when using water color, how do you mix colors?

brittle mist
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In a separate pan or palette, add a few drops of water, depending on how light you want the color

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I use the lid of my paints

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Then use your brush to get some paint and put it in the water

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Clean off the brush, and mix in the other color

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I just learned from youtube, im not an expert

novel iron
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ah, thank you for the detailed reply. SDVpufferhug in hs I just get one color with my brush then stick it in another color, i remember my teacher hated it, but can't remember a better way xD

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learning from youtube is best 💯 I learned how to grow ginger and how to make bracelets from youtube XD

brittle mist
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@novel iron learning from bob ross is good too

novel iron
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yessss

brittle mist
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Hint hint, that one good painting i did from him

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With watercolor no less

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I tried lmao

novel iron
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wow!! impressive

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so detailed esp. on trees/grass

brittle mist
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thank you!!

novel iron
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love the colors, too. it natually combines many colors in 1 pic 👏

stray turtle
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the whole painting is good but your colours arent that high of quality

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get some more expensive colours

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aka higher quality

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you can see that in the clouds especially cuz they didnt blend very well and water colours are made to blend

urban minnow
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depends on the style they are going for

brittle mist
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@stray turtle i can only afford $6 michaels brand watercolor palettes

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It’s not really a huge hobby of mine that i want to delve much further into, id rather spend my money on violin lessons

calm tiger
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I'm very new to trying to draw translucent creatures but I think this looks okay so far. Going to try colouring it soon.

unkempt tinsel
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ooooh looks cool!

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what a neat critter

stray turtle
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looks like a plankton or something like it

calm tiger
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Thank you!

stray turtle
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it cool

calm tiger
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For some reason I always find the inking part satisfying to do.

devout stream
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my farmer erin training my friend's farmer skye how to use a firearm (zombie survival au) :V

calm tiger
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Cute!

unkempt tinsel
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aw that's so cute i love it

devout stream
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we've been obsessed with this AU

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writing a big story and how it'll end

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its a lot of fun lol

urban minnow
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I always focus on au's instead of actual story stuff KatLUL

devout stream
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its starting to become that for us hahha

safe path
lament turtle
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you could try to place your two vantage points further apart

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drawing the entire "box" of the house ie not just the edges you can see might also help

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then you could draw an X on each face of the box to figure out where the midpoint is

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from here you can go for a gable roof which is easier

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but from your sketch it looks more like a hip style roof where it's a bit trickier and i think you just kinda have to eyeball it?

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i kind of messed up that back further in the back

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sorry i probably should have asked if you wanted this kind of an explanation ><

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i don't mean to be pushy or anything you did a really good job on it!

unkempt tinsel
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discord's being weird with images but i personally learned something from your suggestion so thank you for sharing!

devout bridge
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Sweats can any of y'all help me price smth

calm tiger
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Colouring done. Might add a background eventually but for now, I'm happy with this.

waxen magnet
maiden agate
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wow you weirdo you got a foot fetish or something?

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(im joking)

storm meadow
hard lynx
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@maiden agate hi! jokes are fun and all but ones about that kind of topic aren't quite appropriate in this server.

maiden agate
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@hard lynx oh im sorry, it wont happen again

hard lynx
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❤️ no problem you're okay!

maiden agate
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@hard lynx SDVpufferuwu

unkempt hill
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Can anyone remember by name redpixl in this server who make nice beats in spotify, i think he change his name i can't find him 🤷‍♀️

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Is it @ red

unkempt hill
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Nvm, i found his twitter SDVpufferthumbsup

ancient prawn
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Crap ton of references

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Also crap ton of practice

unkempt hill
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Crap a lot

lament turtle
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use ur own hands!

unkempt hill
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^

polar fable
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use your own hand. look at and draw your off hand as a model

lament turtle
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i have double jointed fingers and lock my fingers in place when trying to sketch hands ^^

unkempt hill
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If you have someone, someone else hands

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You can be more creative on the way the hand looks

lament turtle
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and try taking the most "simple" poses as well since those are actually pretty complicated sksk

unkempt hill
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I really like drawing eyes and hands tbh

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Some tutorials online, start with boxes as reference

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Reference based in reality is the most accurate reference we can fathom

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@lament turtle also why don't you try picture tutorials, there are a lot in pintrest : D

devout stream
lusty hull
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omg that whale 😆

lament turtle
unkempt tinsel
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nice sketches key and neat pixels argen!

acoustic gulch
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man, u stop looking at creative for a bit and are suddenly overwhelmed by all the nice art, you guys aere all amazing

unreal stream
fleet gazelle
snow ravine
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BABY

lament turtle
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babby

unkempt hill
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Baby babs hair is fab

azure nightBOT
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Painting practice [ 0 views | 0 rating w/ 0 likes (0 dislikes) | Duration: 42m56s | Uploaded: 2020-02-01 by Donovan Frye ]

fading hawk
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HEres part one of me drawing it

unkempt hill
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Ooooh

tawny lynx
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(This isn't mine it's just from the above picture)

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I just wanted to make the pun

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Wait are those pictures all puns?

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Oh, they are.

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Well let me see if I can name them all:

  • Abi-sale
  • Abi-Quail(?)
  • Abi-Whale
  • Abi-Bale
  • Abi-Mail
  • Abi-Nail
  • Abi-Snail
  • Abi-Trail
  • Abi-Fail
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Should draw her as a gust of wind and call her Abi-gale.

tranquil eagle
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Just finished watching the video, clown! CatHeart thanks for sharing! I hope one day I'll be as good as drawing as u are! stitchCute

devout stream
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LOL PEZZO

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yes they are all puns

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u did good figuring most of them out

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@tawny lynx Abi-Quail is actually AbiTail/AbiTails (its Tails from Sonic lolol)

tawny lynx
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Ah I see now.

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Abi-Pail

stray turtle
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hi im making a paypal acc for pixel art and i need help ._. do i make it a business acc or personal and if im making a business acc what do i select as my business ?

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plz tag me

pastel iris
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if it's for art commissions, ofc business acc

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and be sure to use invoice for payment

stray turtle
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but someone on deviant art i think said use a personal acc for hobby style art

devout stream
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you should

stray turtle
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and if i do use a business acc what type of business should it be?

devout stream
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business is only if youre running a fulltime proper business

stray turtle
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im not ._.

devout stream
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i would do personal

stray turtle
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only when people ask me or to make some money on the side

pastel iris
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while most of deviantart journal I've seen suggest me to use business account instead GWpingKanyeLUL

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I'm not sure if your hobby style art includes commissions, but if it does, I suggest take business acc

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payment without invoice is prone to credit card chargeback

stray turtle
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what type of business acc?

pastel iris
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uh there's only one business acc

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I'm not sure what you mean now

stray turtle
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digital goods media and stuff

pastel iris
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oh right, digital goods

stray turtle
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thx

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i also should have a persinal acc with the business one

pastel iris
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you mean personal acc and business acc? .-.

stray turtle
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ye

pastel iris
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tbf I kinda put all of my paypal stuff, business or not in one account but it's up to you I guess

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if I remember it right it's still allowed to have 2 different account SDVpufferthink

stray turtle
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your kinda right ima keep it only business acc

devout bridge
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Use a personal account unless you expect to make a lot of money (in the thousands)

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You can invoice on personal

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Business accounts have fees that you don't need to pay if ur not getting a big amount of coms

tawny lynx
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"Hobby jobs" get weird like that.

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So yeah, low overhead art selling would probably fit within that definition up to the point you go professional full time assuming you get there.

spiral knoll
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I have a question for commission artists! When you typically take commissions what kind of/how much detail do you prefer?

devout stream
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thats a pretty vague and opinionated question. id imagine most people will work it out on a per customer basis

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when i commission ppl i more often times give them the character refs and give them a vague description and then i let them use the freedom to make something unique

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it depends on what both the customer and artist want

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i tend to enjoy it when ppl give me specific details cuz i want to be sure 100% theyre getting what they want, unless they specifically tell me to go crazy

stable elbow
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ayayayyaya im getting proficient at using csp 3d models to make my own poses

storm meadow
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Small sketch before working on a bigger canvas
The best pie eater out there

lusty hull
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cutie~!

tranquil eagle
modest lake
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cronch

hollow summit
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Tasty

unreal stream
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That lil owl can't finish that whole pie, surely lmao
also body done except her hand

unkempt tinsel
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nice outfit!

glad lava
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Very nice

glossy steppe
unkempt tinsel
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oh gorgeous detail

unreal stream
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Holy shit thats incredible!

lament turtle
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can post screen shots of my wip i have here? I'm currently working on it and would love to show progress and get some tis on how the heccin hecc to draw harvey

graceful hatch
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No

tired wagon
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Of course!

lament turtle
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cool ^^

graceful hatch
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Your welcome

lament turtle
unkempt tinsel
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where do you plan to draw harvey?

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(looks good!)

lament turtle
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2/2 very rough lan sketch of Harv. He's going to be a bit behind magnus! The stance looks awkward in sketch form but i'm hoping i can get it looking a bit more natural.

lament turtle
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Harvey and Magnus together, both fully lined. now i just have to rough up harvey and sketch out the plans for both the foreground and background. ( spoiler again because of non graphic wounds.

lone mountain
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those wings are so fucking good

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😳

faint wharf
verbal onyx
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I like it a lot

tawny lynx
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So who is Magnus, a stand?

verbal onyx
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I'd like to know, also- but it looks really cool

halcyon bronze
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Your lines are very confident which is good, and I haven't watched the Owl house but Id say it's very close to the style :)

As a critique, perhaps composition-wise, the image feels a little cramped. The character is sort of leaning to the left in disgust, but the background shape is also at that angle, comprising the balance of the drawing. In short, perhaps next time if you were to draw something similar, don't be afraid to use space. Move the title a little further from the character and use a rectangle that is not tilted to stabilise the image. SDVpufferthumbsup

lament turtle
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Pezzo and joe, Magnus is part of a species I created called DreamCatchers. They're protection spirits that live inside their name sakes!
And thanks jev! The wings took me ages to do because I had to hunt down another effort for them lol

forest zephyr
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i'm searching some feedbacks, mostly on the color of the flowers (is it ok ? does it need more contrast ?) and the leaves (enough ? need more ?)

acoustic gulch
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I LOVE HTE COLOR OF THE FLOWERS

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maybe the yellow highlight could be slightlu less yellow

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but i like it

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thin contrast is fine

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leaves could use 1 more color if u want? like a lighter green but they look fine as is