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#creative-discussion
brazen lark
candid citrus
nice nice
vagrant acorn
nice nice nice nice
oh sweet god this oneshot is legit being a thing
what in the hell I KNOW HOW TO WRITE AGAIN 
unkempt tinsel
yessss writing
also it goes without saying, if there are contest winners and they post it on tumblr we'll just reblog that
i just mean like a general "here are our winners!" i dunno it's a owrk in progress i just thought of it 5 mins ago
i just think it'd be fun to involve the creative community a little more
modders have nexus n stuff
though modders are also welcome to be reblogged
no one is safe
neat iris
Lmao of course. That one shot is gonna be amazing
I love the idea of domestic Stardew Valley oneshots
vagrant acorn
give me a moment 👀
slate yoke
CHAPTER DONE
WOOO
Man these massive chapters are coming pretty easily too, I'm happy
vagrant acorn
IT HAPPENED. for the first time since late september of last year, i did an art.
slate yoke
GOOD WORK SPOONS
vagrant acorn
WEW IT FEELS GOOD TO WRITE AGAIN
neat iris
Domestic au gives me life
vagrant acorn
100% mood though
unkempt tinsel
hey fable i'm gonna signal boost your fic or at least try to
spoony maybe u should post ur fic on tumblr so i can reblog it
vagrant acorn
ok hang on
unkempt tinsel
@slate yoke your fic is mainly farmer/alex right?
i'll be honest i haven't read fanfic lately but don't take it personally 
i need to sometime
DANGIT HE WENT TO BED
but i found the tags anyway
unkempt tinsel
thonk
vagrant acorn
tottaly didnt have to do forgot my password cause holy fuck i havent done anything on any artistic medium in ages nope ahahahahah
untold sorrel
Wolfs spoony...what is a spoony?
unkempt tinsel
would i tag this as farmer and sam since it's mainly about sam?
vagrant acorn
sure, i left the S/O nameless also so anyone can use whoever they want to have as the cheater lmao
unkempt tinsel
ok this one is short i should read it
IT MAKES ME FEEL GUILTY i like take a lot of time out of my day to read stuff but sometimes i'm just plain lazy
unkempt tinsel
UGH I'M SO MAD I QUEUED THE WRONG ACCOUNT
vagrant acorn
RIP
untold sorrel
i love drawing tegaki...so fun！
slate yoke
@unkempt tinsel hey hey Yes it's intended to be a Farmer/Alex fic
slate yoke
But I openly embrace slow burn slice of life so it'll be a bit before actual romance happens lol
neat iris
Slow burn is great
slate yoke
Slow burn realistic tbh
And I'm also not afraid to take on the idea of someone having a crazy crush at first and getting over it. I don't ever see that done in literature
neat iris
That's true
vagrant acorn
it's a rare trope, but ive seen it once or twice
tbh some of the best are OH MAN I LOVE YOU AND I JUST MET wait maybe i dont.... and then super slow burn to love again
slate yoke
It happens so often irl. Someone falls for someone, gets over it, and then slowly falls for them again
EXACTLY
That's what I'm trying to do here
unkempt tinsel
i'm a sucker for from enemies to lovers
vagrant acorn
same tbh
slate yoke
I don't know how to write that lol
untold sorrel
i write a lot of R18... but i love domestic stuff w
unkempt tinsel
domestic stuff is fun
vagrant acorn
Domestic and Domestic AU are always nice, or way to over done.
there isnt just a 'hey that was ok' imo
untold sorrel
not everyone has a eventful life www、i like to write that
slate yoke
I just keep writing the various ways Jackson gets himself thrown in Harvey's office
untold sorrel
also、my characters...i love them to have realistic live! w
vagrant acorn
so what you're saying fable, is you are writing Jackass
neat iris
For some reason shane and Nora just get in crazy things
Elliott asks for advice on romance from them and they end up being the main characters in his romance novel
slate yoke
Jackson has received head trauma twice now and it's always Alex's fault
untold sorrel
the one i write now、3person of sam sebastian and farmer (・∀・)
neat iris
Shane doesn't know Nora has a cave filled with fruit bats until it's too late
untold sorrel
poly relationship! is the type I think
neat iris
Shane doesn't come back home until late at night. Nora thinks he's cheating, but he's just spending time with the chickens in coop.
unkempt tinsel
that's always what shane is doing and it's beautiful
neat iris
You know what I'm thinking of
Could you imagine if joja mart tries to get the community center through a gridball game
All the young folks try to work together to beat joja mart and save their town
It's such a cliche, but I like the idea
Or maybe a friendly game between the townsfolk as a past time
ebon briar
gosh ive been wanting to write some fanficcy stuff forever but it seems
like a terrifying leap
like i find that i struggle to 'get' characters and write them in a way that resembles their canon personalities
i'm okay with descriptive writing. objective writing? where its more like fluffy stuff as opposed to
deep character driven
vagrant acorn
I hated how badly i wrote cannon like, so i just gave up on forcing it myself
I TRY to stay somewhat in character, but I realized thats not my style, so i just let it happen
unreal stream
@ebon briar no problem, Ill wait 👌
tawdry vortex
@ebon briar mood
fading hawk
Oooh he's really handsome
devout stream
haha i've made abby in sims 4 like three times now
fading hawk
I wanna play Sims 4 again I remember hating it but I wanna give it another chance
fringe coyote
honestly I always end up making my OCs in the sims 3 lmao
devout stream
sims 4 is really shit if you dont have DLCs
its super dry of content
doesnt even have basic pool accessories =\
fringe coyote
I tried the sims 4, not really my thing except for the CAS which is great
fading hawk
I like Sims 3 but Sims 2 is like my favorite
devout stream
the cool thing about Origin is you can customize a 3-pack and get a good discount
fringe coyote
honestly like the worst thing was taking away the open map??? why???????????
still forever confused
fringe coyote
has she eaten any rocks yet
fringe coyote
she crave that mineral
vagrant acorn
she is praisning the green diamond in that photo
vagrant acorn
lmao
untold sorrel
PANCHAN
Also sims 4... i have SO MANY mods lmao
untold sorrel
yes oh...maybe pansan, since i do not know your gender! i am sorry
I have...a LOT www i had to uninstall sims bc my laptop is an fossil... :(
fringe coyote
lmaoo u can call me pankun (like a pancake ahaha)
i have an old laptop i bought on ebay and it runs surprisngly well
fringe coyote
my other laptop is so bad tho
it takes about 30 minutes to load the game on that one oof
untold sorrel
Omg
orz i tried to play maplestory 2... it was so slow and laggy i was unplayable x(
Stardew runs perfect since it is not demanding like other games
fringe coyote
my other laptop couldn't even run stardew XD
untold sorrel
omg orz that's horrible
spare gull
my laptop can just barely run it, but its laggy sometimes
devout stream
tbh ive been wanting to play more sims 4 but the game is so damn buggy???
every time abby interacts with our pet hedgehog she just kinda loses all of her brain cells and stands there forever
and i cant do nothin about it
fringe coyote
oof 😭
in other news, elliot is being created
hows his face look?
also i have so much custom hair it's impossible to find anything ahaha
findally found his fair lmao
omg the game crashed
but thankfully RIGHT AFTER I SAVED
halleluja
shit it's 3am
better go to bed anythings, it's a sign
noight 😴
fleet gazelle
they hugg
devout stream
schleep & hugg
fleet gazelle
lol
vagrant acorn
mood though
dense bloom
aaaaa so cute!!
young pantherBOT
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dense bloom
oh shi
vagrant acorn
welcome to the real server now
dense bloom
Jfjdhd,, Yoba has blessed thee-
fleet gazelle
you’re perfect
vagrant acorn
🚢
devout stream
i cant make loud noises in happiness my family is sleeping
fleet gazelle
It’s never to early
vagrant acorn
put a pillow on your face and then you can make not loud noises and not wake the fam
devout stream
thats true i already do that
lament turtle
@fleet gazelle why are u killing me by being so damn smooth
fleet gazelle
How, I just copy what you said and put you in it pretty much
devout stream
lament turtle
Thats still cute
fleet gazelle
im tempted
lament turtle
fine be smooth
lament turtle
idm but ok thanks lmfao 
lament turtle
Lmfao
onyx island
I'm smooth as a roll of sandpaper
tawdry vortex
sketch
tawdry vortex
im drawing sebastian and my farmer cause i have art block™
wraith nova
its so cute.. I love how you draw Sebastian 💜
lament turtle
quick, Draw!
native swallow
bang!
lament turtle
bruh this makes me feel so good though cause Im getting into art again
lament turtle
oh I know it looks bad trust me 😂
hit me though
the feet I'm guessing
Im just getting general shape
native swallow
Actually, I was just critiquing the overall style. I can't speak for everyone becomes y'all have different artstyles, but generally creating flowing lines is better than creating multiple short lines. (Which is called "Chicken Scratch")
Though it is sometimes easier to create shapes with Chicken Scratch than flowing lines
lament turtle
oH! I know what you're talkin about. I don't chicken scratch with my line art, its just my sketches so I can get the overall shape
native swallow
Ah! Makes sense 😄
lament turtle
sketch part 2- scaling to come soon. How do to do two tails this is hard oh no
throws out half of the piece I knOW what to DO
IM ScrEAming his FEEt
native swallow
Lol looking good so far
lament turtle
I mean I usually draw cats but this is like different because its been so long
like
;-; I wish I didnt stop lol
lament turtle
🤷 It's from a year or two ago
tidal nova
kitties
unreal stream
Im gonna be drawing arms and hands later and im very afraid
But Im super happy with my current work so ehhhhh
mighty bronze
devout stream
im trying to figure out how to handle abby's left arm/hand here
idk where to put it
it could go underneath erin and extend to the otherside, but its not comfortable for someone (especially when they are bigger than you) to sleep on top of your arm
devout bridge
Curled up by her tummy? Sometimes I do raptor hands when im sleepin near someone
devout stream
i have an anatomy freak in another discord telling me it wouldn't be very convenient because erin is slightly on top of her but idk, my intention was just for them to be super duper close
unreal stream
See, this is an example of anatomy over style. Sometimes you're gonna have sacrafice something
devout stream
thats fair!
still, im struggling to get it to look good to me when doing that. im trying something else a bit goofier
abby looks like she's throwing a spear
LOL
devout stream
also im not really sure if its necessary to speak to me in that tone, Arcfire.
you could've told me that in a much nicer way
unreal stream
@devout stream Ah crap, I honestly didn't mean anything bad on you. I only now just realised how poorly I worded that.
devout stream
its all good friend! it just felt a bit condescending
unreal stream
What I meant to put across was that I personally feel like sometimes when it comes to anatomy and style, one might have to give way a bit. It was just since you mentioned your anatomy friend who was concerned about the pose
But I'm probably talking nonsense anyway. I'm the least qualified to make a judgement on someone's artwork
So apologies if my tone sounded off
devout stream
I don't disagree! and you saying that made me realize that. :D
unreal stream
Ultimately, you do you. To me the pose looks great but again, someone more qualified might have a more worthwhile opinion
devout stream
hmm? I haven't made the pose suggested yet. :P
unreal stream
Ah my b, I just meant the last one you posted
devout stream
with abbys left arm being on her tummy n stuff. instead if what I tried right there
my farmers boob looks like its being squashed LOL
candid citrus
why do u think it'll turn out bad !! it looks super cute so far turret
onyx oxide
oh ;p ty
stable elbow
Twitter
candid citrus
LOL
tawny lynx
I mean, don't they?
rich delta
mecha is fun tho
lone mountain
LOL thats so tru tho
acoustic gulch
that always mad eme laugh sdfghjk
ebon briar
unreal stream
Arms are a pain. Thankfully the outfit doesn't cling so muscle tone isn't important.
The other arm though will hurt. I want it bent upwards as she's holding an axe but eeeeh
Also ignore the dumb doodle in the top left lmao
Gonna have to make the torso part of her clothing more baggy - while making sure she's covered up obvs
stable elbow
damn wood burning looks so cool
neat iris
So apparently I've thought about that murder mystery au a lot more than I'd realized
lament turtle
literally took me 10 minutes but this is me when people talk about that italy trip i got banned from going on
native swallow
Wait why did you get banned
lament turtle
this is my friend alice in this drawing style im kinda addicted to
ok yes it was
everyone was slapping each oither
other*
literally
and im a bit too strong
so...yep you know what happened
acoustic gulch
oooh lookin good sakura
native swallow
Oh neat
In that case I suggest you wear a button microphone, and a video if you can get it
lament turtle
it doesnt matter anymore
lament turtle
and this is my friend jacqueline (the head is creeping me out)
yeah ig
idk why i drew her head so long
lament turtle
thank chu!
unreal stream
God I cant draw hands or arms to save my life but this is going well
lament turtle
thats wonderful
native swallow
That looks pretty good so far!
ebon briar
If I did some SDV woodburnings would there be a markett for them?
stable elbow
maybe on etsy
but it’s kinda eh
i would advertise them on the subreddit before hand
ebon briar
I guess more specifically if ppl would be willing to commission em :0
clear escarp
ok so uh
I mentioned this before but not in this fashion
I have a gigantic fictional universe of mine; what'd be a good way of representing it? (I have a webcomic planned but I'm more than happy to switch to something else if I like it more)
stable elbow
game? if you’re up for that
clear escarp
ehhH
the game I'd like to make would require a.. more than sizable team and funds >.>
raw sentinel
Dani, that's a complicated question, but a webcomic seems like a safe bet. If you're confident in writing prose, then try writing a story about the world from the perspective of one of your characters- although, as always, you'd have to prioritize writing a compelling story over world-building your universe, and if that's a compromise you're willing to make, then go for it.
clear escarp
I already have a story and decent worldbuilding, everything is set, I literally just need some form to represent it.
:y
raw sentinel
If you're good at/confident in your drawing ability, and can pump out work you're proud of at a rate you like/that will satisfy your audience, then a webcomic would be best. If you're not quite there yet, then go for writing prose. Or do whatever- I can't stop you.
Judging on the fact that you're in the "creative" tab, I'm guessing you can draw pretty well, but that's just a guess.
clear escarp
I can't say if I"m good or not, rip
lone mountain
damn i feel bad for all the brazilian artists rn
raw sentinel
Care to elaborate, Jev?
lone mountain
apparently they made changes to paypal so that residents of brazil cant send money internationally
ive only heard this from one person so far though
so i dont have a huge grasp on it yet
heres what they said
fringe coyote
i made abigail uwu
real void
oh thats cute,,
fringe coyote
thank bless u
shane and elliott are my faves so i'm makig everyone else but it's not as fun lol
lone mountain
that hair mod is gorgeous
tawdry vortex
he
devout stream
has
fringe coyote
ｂｅｅｎ ｃｒｅａｔｅd
clear escarp
I am in a state of immense fear
14kx image dimensions
for reference that's a world map so it's somewhat justified???
acoustic gulch
prayin for u friendo
real void
me, ten minutes ago, naive and innocent: abigail's hair looks so fun to draw!! :D
save me
fringe coyote
o o f f f f ff f f
raw sentinel
I'll set you an alarm, so you can be woken up inside.
real void
ty jv
raw sentinel
And if you can't wake up, I'll call your name, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to save you.
slate yoke
Woo my essay is done so now I can stare at a new document and not actually convince myself to write
Or suddenly start writing
One or the other
frozen plaza
@fringe coyote that stuff you're doing with people in the Sims is inspiring me to do some character creation of my own in another character creator
speaking of which, hey Fable
what is Alex's eye color?
slate yoke
Uhhhh well it kinda depends because it isn't super clear. I think it's green but I know some people see hazel
frozen plaza
that's what i was thinking
stable elbow
green?
frozen plaza
green
slate yoke
I think green is the prettier option
slate yoke
Oh my
frozen plaza
tried to keep it faithful color wise
game is XCOM 2
i actually posted one for Abby about a week ago
slate yoke
What happened to his hair :U
slate yoke
Nah it's more wavy imo
frozen plaza
like I don't want it to clean, cause I'm trying to find something that keeps with the sorta spiky ends his hair has
this a little better?
slate yoke
I'd say that's def closer
slate yoke
She looks like she'd stab me with no hesitation
frozen plaza
she has a machete and a knife
slate yoke
Dear God
frozen plaza
hanging off her back
@pastel iris hope it isn't rude to directly ping you, but it kept saying you were typing something
is there something you wanted to say?
frozen plaza
rofl
fringe coyote
@frozen plaza wait what game is that?
frozen plaza
XCOM 2
fringe coyote
ah, never heard of it, the characters look good!
frozen plaza
forgot to remove the soncihu from my name, that's done now
fringe coyote
lmaoo
frozen plaza
also it's an alien invasion strategy game
and my idea with the Abigail was to give her a sword of sorts, cause of that one heart event
devout stream
dude hell yeah i did the same thing
when i played XCOM 2
mine looked different than that
frozen plaza
Damn, was not expecting that
frozen plaza
Commander's Choice helps a bunch if you wanna consistently give someone a class
great mod
ebon briar
:000
frozen plaza
😮
devout stream
im not really interested in making the game harder
ebon briar
I'm gonna finish harvey, do one of my oc, then maybe maru or penny
frozen plaza
that's fine, WOTC is more fun then base, and some of the stuff can make it easier then base
devout stream
i rage really hard at RNG mechanics so yeah
i try to just sorta keep the game the way it is in terms of difficulty
frozen plaza
I can share a few of the things if you want me to take it to pm
devout stream
i thought i had screenshots hmm =\
frozen plaza
cause i've probably taken this channel way off art topic
frozen plaza
DAMN
devout stream
thats nuts
stable elbow
the character is rena from granblue fantasy
devout stream
damn the only character i know from that is ferry..............
and ferry is cute........
stable elbow
yea ferry cute
pastel iris
I'm thinking of drawing bachelors and bachelorettes as professional (based on vanilla aspects) do you think that my ideas make enough sense?
Abigail : Sounds out of realism but professional monster hunter does suit her for me or professional drummer if sam's band is implemented very well and successful, then a traveler, the last choice is simply shopowner, inherited from pierre
Emily : from her hobby, most obvious choice is clothing/fashion designer, then model or psychiatrist, I could even picture her taking over gus' saloon for reason as the last choice
Haley : It's not that much different from her sister, most obvious choice is photographer/fashion designer/model, I couldn't see the other choice besides those
Leah : everything's about her hobby no doubt, 1st choice is all-around artist who's creating whatever art and the last choice is specialised on certain aspects like just painting/sculpting/any sort of arts
Maru : a bit of combination of leah and maru, she got a hobby and I could see a possibility she could have a skill on teaching someone, so 1st choice for me is robotic mechanic, then the last choice could be scientist just as her father and might be possible to be a teacher just like penny
Penny : teacher as the topmost choice ofc since she loves children, last choice is lecturer based only on her teaching skill, I couldn't think something else on her lmao
lament turtle
alex is professional cuddler
penny could be librarian I always get that vibe with her in the library
pastel iris
I'll post bachelor on different post cuz of limit discord length of post xD
thorn pulsar
@pastel iris what about a nurse practitioner for Maru? or anything medical related
stable elbow
alex - instagram thot
slate yoke
BE NICE!!!
thorn pulsar
tbh, I can see Haley as a photographer turned social media influencer. I just
imagine Haley as a youtuber
echo mesa
I can totally see Alex being an instagram thot
spends all his time at the gym working out or taking selfies
thorn pulsar
imagine any of them as youtubers. it'd be a travesty
ebon briar
harvey is a better househusband
slate yoke
Lies
ebon briar
my househusband will beat urs in a househusband fight
slate yoke
Your househusband is 40 and dying
echo mesa
Sebastian has a youtube channel dedicated to dnd
raw sentinel
Haley: hey guys welcome to episode 57 of my minecraft asmr lets play
stable elbow
why would you say that
ebon briar
urs is like 20 and has dozens of gridball concussions
slate yoke
It's the truth
stable elbow
alex peaked in highschool
pastel iris
well we don't know if there are youtube or instagram in sdv world, it's hardly a choice
thorn pulsar
social media seems likely, though
pastel iris
oh and about maru's nursery stuff I'd like to agree on that
slate yoke
I've come to the conclusions that my lizard brain thinks concussions=love
slate yoke
I mean Jackson has now been concussed twice in my fic
raw sentinel
Concussions only equal love if you love your doctor.
thorn pulsar
it happens
slate yoke
concussions=love
ebon briar
my househusband will treat your househusband's broken bones
thorn pulsar
I mean, I doubt gridball is any safer than any other contact sport
fanfic where Harvey sits down with Alex and explains the dangers of repeated, minor head trauma
ebon briar
ive stopped shipping my oc w/ morris and now ship him with harvey and god
my oc is a little dirt gremlin who eats bugs
harvey is very concerned
raw sentinel
I don't mean to be rude
ebon briar
all day
raw sentinel
But I can't tell how serious any of y'all are.
ebon briar
'wash your fucking hands you were just outside in the dirt'
stable elbow
wdym
thorn pulsar
I'm about half serious at all times
the other half is chili dip that I eat like soup
slate yoke
Honestly Spoonie that's just where my fic is going rn
slate yoke
Harvey is going to have to sit Alex down and go "please stop hitting this boy's head with things he's dying"
raw sentinel
I dunno, I just can't tell if any of these fan-fictions are real, imagined/not on paper, or japes.
slate yoke
Mine is very real
raw sentinel
Good to know.
slate yoke
In my fic Jackson has been concussed twice now
thorn pulsar
my ideas are all Linus and Wizard kissing and they don't exist yet
but they will
one day
raw sentinel
Alright, I suppose I'll give this "fanfiction" thing a shot...
slate yoke
Concussion 1- Crashed headfirst into Alex's chest while blindly chasing a slime at 12am
Concussion 2- Playing catch on the beach and someone had to be a clown
Concussion 3- ???? Bound to happen
ebon briar
how many ribs did alex break
slate yoke
No one cares about his ribs
ebon briar
cause if its strong enough to concuss its strong enough to crack a rib
thorn pulsar
not necessarily
slate yoke
It wasn't actually a real concussion lol, just enough to daze jackson and leave a bruise on Alex
Second was a real concussion though
thorn pulsar
Many "mild" concussions are just as serious and can cause similar side effects with less trauma
slate yoke
This is true!
thorn pulsar
and honestly, most of the danger of contact sports is the non-concussive blows anyway
slate yoke
All you need to do is rattle the brain a bit
ebon briar
yknow thats fair
slate yoke
I had a friend who's been concussed many times
ebon briar
i only ever hear about like,, high schooler gets slammed into wall sorta concussions
slate yoke
I actually consulted her on it
stable elbow
alex punches holes into the wall and shows it to the farmer
slate yoke
Jackson's first incident was a very very mild concussion, not enough to knock him out for very long but enough to daze him. Second was enough to trigger a stutter for a bit
thorn pulsar
I was amazed to learn that you don't even need a head injury for trauma similar to a concussion
and you don't need a concussion to have noticeable side effects
they're not necessarily severe, but they can be noticeable
pastel iris
for bachelors,
Alex : this is very hard choice for me, he seemed like wanted to be professional gridball player but I doubted him because of his.. Indecisiveness? I could depict him as gymnastic professional but back again on indecisiveness, sorry alex lovers, but I'd be open for any reason to refute my statement
Elliott : writer or pro fisherman, I could depict him being model because imo he's fabulous
Harvey : he's already a doctor and he seems enjoying it than his hobby on planes stuff, so pilot is the next choice, and the last choice could be scientist for him
Sam : professional guitarist and songwriter, if he could make his band into realism and successful, I'm not going to say just because his side job is cleaner means this is the last choice for him, if he prefer enlisted to the army just like his father? who knows?
Sebastian : from game developer, IT support, web designer, programmer, he could even be professional syntetizer if sam's band were successful
Shane : Poultry farmer no doubt, might even include butchery but i'll leave it to your imagination, last choice is he'd taking over marnie's job
slate yoke
My question now is how to treat this current concussion. I had Alex care for the farm for that night but honestly Jackson probably won't be well enough to run things alone for a bit
thorn pulsar
Alex needs to do a complete 180 and realize he loves. accounting or something. but I think he'd enjoy helping run a community gridball team. Published author for Elliott is golden.
Sam. Yeah, professional guitarist/songwriter works. Maybe with a military-based spin? Benefit concerts and the like?
Sebastian has a genuine passion for coding, so those work. And Shane is definitely just a farmer.
pastel iris
alex does accounting? xD sorry if it sounds rude but it's a bit off
CA really needs to overwrite alex, I felt bad for him
slate yoke
I can see Alex going into Philosophy based on that heart event
thorn pulsar
I just want him to like more things than gridball okay
slate yoke
Alex doesn't need a rewrite what :U
thorn pulsar
Eventually he won't be able to destroy his knees and brain cells anymore
pastel iris
not his overall
slate yoke
Alex's whole thing is realizing that his plans for the future weren't necessarily realistic
And that he can learn to be content with who he is, where he is
thorn pulsar
I have never actually gotten more than like. 5 hearts with Alex
jeez
I just realized that
slate yoke
All of his events are fine as is honestly, the only one that I could see getting changed is the catch event. All the others serve their purpose
thorn pulsar
the catch event is kind of cute, though
slate yoke
It is
thorn pulsar
like, it's very. sweet? it's a sweet lil interaction and I like that all the marriage candidates get at least one somewhere
lament turtle
but I think he'd enjoy helping run a community gridball team
I like this
slate yoke
And it's the event I turned into Jackson's second concussion
pastel iris
well perhaps it's like., there are some events on him could be combined as one
raw sentinel
There is depth in Alex, even if it's tiresome to get to it.
pastel iris
like perhaps the catch event is combined when he talks about his deceased mother
thorn pulsar
I need to get to it. My first, full run was all over the place and I didn't even complete everything xD
slate yoke
That's way too early tho
thorn pulsar
I don't mind the catch event as its own thing
raw sentinel
Alright, are y'all ready for some unrelated idiocy from yours truly?
slate yoke
Are you gonna be a clown
stable elbow
alex
raw sentinel
The only story I've come up with so far is one where the wizard, in his infinite genius, creates a staff that breaks the barriers between worlds and allows various other fictional universes to mingle with SDV's, letting all manner of stupidity happen, including, but not limited to: -Donkey Kong becoming a local philanthropist. -John Wick becoming a dating candidate who will only date women and will steal your dog if you divorce them. -Ripley from the Alien franchises has her hair braided by Jas as they talk about boys and space travel. -The anime girl from Death Road To Canada overdoses on anime and dies a horrible death in the town square. -Jake the dog escapes his dying cartoon universe and lives a quiet, mournful life in a shop tended by a rifle-vending skeleton. -Marnie discovers that she has occult powers capable of making her a demigod, but she just tends to animals instead. The working title I have for it it Stardew Valley: Horrible Meme Editon, and ideally it would be a huge content mod that would add late-game progression. It ain't gonna happen, though.
slate yoke
wh
raw sentinel
Yep
slate yoke
You were being a clown
stable elbow
whew lad
lament turtle
why do you think alex's 10 heart is a total disappointment?
raw sentinel
I would like to say I haven't thought about it extensively, as a sort of "Calamity Mod" for Stardew Valley, but I have.
I don't have the coding prowess, though, so I'll just let it be.
ebon briar
I'm really tempted to add in my farmer as an npc
pastel iris
I couldn't see it as romantic thing compared to the others, it's not like to made him doing kiss or whatever, but to my eyes it's just like a simple date for me
slate yoke
I mean, isn't that the most realistic though?
lament turtle
hmm that's fair
slate yoke
Just a simple date
lone mountain
hopefully the new update does alex more justice
pastel iris
not 10
lament turtle
he was my first 10 heart I didn't realize the others were more... intimate until later
stable elbow
sam
slate yoke
Honestly the simplicity and fairly candid realism was what makes it appealing to me. Everyone else is a fairly grand sweeping gesture of some kind or some kind of hijinks whereas Alex is very down to earth and candid
ebon briar
I was expecting harvey's 10h to be a lot more serious than it was
stable elbow
harvey's was cute
pastel iris
also how he ordered the food is a bit off
slate yoke
Alex was a reminder that he's just a normal dude doing what he felt was best to express his feelings
stable elbow
yea,,,
slate yoke
Ok I can agree that ordering for you was def odd
pastel iris
he took a steak for him, and a salad for me, alright :/
stable elbow
sounds like hes gonna fight
slate yoke
That is the only thing I'll agree with though
slate yoke
Ugh I'm def not gonna write anything tonight
ebon briar
'fuck i stress myself out way too much with the townspeople'
you have a little heart to heart
pastel iris
but still, I couldn't understand your view of down to earth somehow? 
lament turtle
I did like how he expressed his insecurity about liking another guy (if applicable)
pastel iris
he arranged a fancy date
slate yoke
That's part of what made it so realistic
He's a dude who legit struggled with his sexuality if you were a dude
Instead of just "lol playersexual don't question it"
lone mountain
alex 
raw sentinel
Well, I'll let you all ponder about your stories about head trauma. G'night, and don't go to bed too late!
slate yoke
I'm mostly pondering where to go. I didn't actually expect to hit Jackson this hard. Originally it was just gonna be a bloody nose
devout stream
alex is a good boy
slate yoke
Buuut the moment asked me to make it a full ass YEET
pastel iris
care to enlighten me about struggling with sexuality?
slate yoke
In what way?
pastel iris
ofc alex is a good boy, who said he's bad
well anything on your point of view?
just in case I might got it wrong
devout stream
well for starters, george is very judgmental about alex dating another man in the beginning
thats hard on alex
slate yoke
So Alex immediately reads as a dude very confident in a heteronormative sense. He reads as very solidly heterosexual, and you see it through stuff like how he tries to bond with a male farmer by talking about chicks
lament turtle
ahh that george comment kills me!!! but I'm glad he comes around eventually
ebon briar
prehistoric tool,,,,
slate yoke
It isn't until the 8th heart event where we really start seeing some of his worldview brought into question. It's there that the emotional vulnerability makes him sincerely question his worldview, and though we don't see it his 10 heart tells us that he sincerely struggled with it
pastel iris
well for starters, george is very judgmental about alex dating another man in the beginning
perhaps I'll rummage george dialogue for this o.O
I literally have no idea lmao
slate yoke
10 heart implies he actually liked the farmer for a while, but didn't accept those feelings because he "wasn't allowed to" essentially
lone mountain
man i need to romance alex so i can see this LORE
lament turtle
this man has layers
slate yoke
In 8 heart you teach him you're allowed to be something other than what society expects
ebon briar
hell yeah
slate yoke
He learns from that and tries to be truer to himself
devout stream
alex is honestly one of the best written characters, yet so many ppl write him off as a generic jock in the beginning and never take the time to get to know him
ebon briar
^^
lone mountain
I agree
slate yoke
He struggles with his sexuality because he comes from a culture where deviation from the norm isn't allowed.
ebon briar
Do any other characters have any like, struggles w/ sexuality similar to how Alex does?
slate yoke
I personally blame his father and that's what my story will explore
devout stream
dont think so
lone mountain
Not that i know of
slate yoke
Uhh I think one of the girl bachelors and Sebastian do?
lament turtle
I want to say sebastian says something similar
devout stream
most characters barely even reference it, besides abby who has 1 line in her 8 heart event
slate yoke
Sebastian was a passive comment though
Alex was the biggest "struggle" the others just kinda say "yeah I didn't expect to fall for you but I did anyway lmao"
devout stream
yeah abby merely says "i didnt know i felt this way for other girls, until i met you"
which... i still like
makes me blush every time
.>
ebon briar
Is it consistent with the other bachelor/ettes that they make 'i didnt realise i was gay' comments
ebon briar
if harvey doesnt have one im gonna shit
slate yoke
Most romance candidates don't reference it
ebon briar
harvey comment on me being a big gay already
):<
I think Elliott does as well
smelliott,
devout stream
i think its easier for girls to like other girls too than it is for men to like other men. not trying to belittle the struggle homosexuals experience, but i feel like men get a harder time for it? does that make sense? im sorry if this sounds ignorant. im a gay girl
slate yoke
I actually rly don't like Elliott's 10 heart at all
@devout stream there's a huge discussion there but tl;dr you aren't wrong
You aren't totally right but you aren't wrong
lament turtle
^^
slate yoke
Buuut not really an art convo lol
stable elbow
harvey doesnt comment on it at all
lone mountain
i think sam might've said the same thing as abigail says too
devout stream
true, its slowly drifting away from stardew xD
stable elbow
so do the other older bachelors
slate yoke
Yeah iirc Sam did
ebon briar
Elliott does
devout stream
abby's line is specific to her 8 heart event, its not generic dialogue so idk
stable elbow
a h really
slate yoke
Gah I've only romanced Alex and Sam so I don't remember who else said stuff
ebon briar
Not sure about Shane?
stable elbow
shane doesnt
lone mountain
ill have to relearn all this lore when i replay when the update comes out
unkempt tinsel
this is random i skimmed, i do think the characters in-game are playersexual but i also think that just means you have a lot of wiggleroom with what you want to do and the stories you want to tell. they do recognize gay relationships though with diff dialogue which is really cool
i think most of them have different dialogue when you're with specific
sebastian does i remember
slate yoke
Leah is the only one that canonically isn't playersexual
...Ironically due to player influence but still
devout stream
the fact her sexuality changes depending on the players gender kinda still makes it playersexual?
slate yoke
Yeah her ex is always the same gender as the farmer ye
devout stream
she mentions being gay if you are a girl and choose (creepy) dialogue
slate yoke
It's a confusing thing because it both is and isn't playersexual
Because if you don't romance her as a female she still has a female ex
devout stream
its a really cool detail
unkempt tinsel
yee
i like it
i do like the aspects that suggest that maybe the world doesn't revolve around you
but even so there's still a lot to play with
slate yoke
Overall I do think CA really thought the world through
And thought the romance candidates out quite a bit
Emily is the only one I don't think really got fleshed out much and that's due to update reasons
unkempt tinsel
i feel like it might just be harder for people to relate to emily
personally i love her because i have a soft spot for spiritual people
devout stream
emily doesnt really have any struggles does she?
ebon briar
Its said often but ty CA for bein woke
unkempt tinsel
but that is something that tends to be hit/miss
slate yoke
It doesn't help that her heart events don't really have a sense of progression and that one was a dream sequence the player wasn't there for
unkempt tinsel
no she doesn't unless you count clint's thing for her as something
devout stream
thats definitely more a clint struggle haha
unkempt tinsel
yeah
ebon briar
let clint get the girl!!!
lament turtle
the player is also absent for the bird one too
slate yoke
The other romance candidates either have an overarching plot or a sense of actual progression in their heart events, but Emily lacks anything like that
Yeah the player being AFK for so long really doesn't help
unkempt tinsel
people might disagree but i do feel like in general the bachelors have more progression/story than bachelorettes
slate yoke
There isn't any real interaction between them for a while
You're correct I think Jade
unkempt tinsel
but it could be personal bias too, i never felt connected in most events
slate yoke
This doesn't mean the bachelorettes lack progression, but overall the bachelors have the more "memorable" stories
Shane existing there doesn't help :U
devout stream
obviously you can call me bias but i think abby has the best heart events & writing of the females but i think thats also because she was one of the first characters implemented
unkempt tinsel
penny, abigail, and leah have more story bits
slate yoke
Because his has full throttle impact
unkempt tinsel
i would say the weakest for bachelor is probably elliott
but most of them have like solid progression in some way
slate yoke
Yeah I can't say I'm a fan of Elliott because I don't think his character ever actually went anywhere
stable elbow
i like my boy but harvey gotta be the weakest
devout stream
elliott drinking and being a doofus during that one heart event was a TRUE fresh breath of air
ebon briar
I love the dude
stable elbow
he doesnt really have a storyline
devout stream
but they just kinda drop it
ebon briar
Elliott was just like him writing,,, his book
slate yoke
Harvey never felt like he needed to go anywhere as a character, but Elliott was sold as this bookish hermit
ebon briar
Harvey was eh?
unkempt tinsel
i think it also just depends who we like too and what we find interesting in people, our real life prefs do influence how we take stories and i think that might've been something CA had in mind too when writing, even if not super intentional
slate yoke
Of course
ebon briar
For sure
unkempt tinsel
which is why i think the guys might have more story and the girls might have more events than stories
slate yoke
That's just how writing works
ebon briar
Not everyone needs an extreme arc either.
devout stream
harvey i feel like was nearing the end of the his character arc before the farmer even arrived, and the farmer just ties it up in a pretty bow
lone mountain
anyone know what marus 8/10 heart was?
slate yoke
Sam has a great arc and it's super down to earth and simple
stable elbow
his events were cute but no buildup or a clear story line
devout stream
telescope, jev
unkempt tinsel
it was telescope or get- ok yeah telescope
stable elbow
but the 8+ ones are his best events
devout stream
' < '
slate yoke
Sam is CUTE
devout stream
sam is def cute
lament turtle
maru's 8 is the electrocution one
slate yoke
And I've decided him and the gang are gonna help Jackson with the farm in the story
It's gonna be GREAT
stable elbow
6th?
slate yoke
Oh my God Abigail can wrangle the loose slime
slate yoke
THAT'S WHO'S GONNA CATCH CHICLE IT'LL BE ABIGAIL
lament turtle
yeah telescope is 6th
echo mesa
I read a fanfic once where a bunch of the marriagable people ended up moving in with the farmer for various reasons and it was So Cute And Lovely
slate yoke
Finally I have a reason to do things with Abigail's character
pastel iris
discussing about sexual struggle is quite difficult since I haven't experienced that, I guess that's a fair point
slate yoke
Sexuality struggles are one of those things I recommend you avoid writing if you don't have any experience with them honestly. It is super easy to mess them up and make them less than stellar
There's a lot of cliches and tropes that can both hurt the writing and piss people off
ebon briar
hell even as someone who is going through sexuality struggles i have no clue how to write em
lament turtle
at the same time I think if I tried to write about it I think I the character's struggles would eventually mimic my own, even if I wasn't trying to do that on purpose
certainly a challenge to think about it in another person's voice I suppose
slate yoke
You write your experiences, it's just a part of writing
Your characters reflect you in some way at the end of the day
lament turtle
yea
pastel iris
although still, even george's dialogue about 'unnatural' seems appealing, it's still somehow.. how can i say this
I mean he only said that to the farmer, not likely he's criticising alex for doing same-sex relationship directly
so I couldn't see if that is 'hard' on alex
lament turtle
ahh I'm inspired to start writing!!
slate yoke
George's statement there says enough about his mindset
He's criticizing your relationship
echo mesa
if George can speak like that to someone not family, I think he'd be willing to speak like that to Alex too
slate yoke
He'd be more than willing to be ruder to Alex if anything
echo mesa
^^
slate yoke
Married
devout stream
its really not complicated, azrael. it hurts when your family doesn't support your personal choices. and stardew valley is a flowing world where things are happening and conversations between people are happening even when the player does not experience them directly. imagine what george is expressing to alex when you are not around
slate yoke
That's an important thing to remember in any game. There's stuff that happens when you aren't there to see it
The world is alive without the player watching
devout stream
and alex is NOT the type of person to shrug off ignorant family members, his grandparents are all he has left
slate yoke
Ooh thanks for that insight Key that's useful
devout stream
it can differ from person to person, i couldnt care less if my family didn't support my sexual preferences. im not close with them and ive never been a super "i love my family" kinda person... it sounds cruel but ive just always been a loner.
but alex?
dude lost his mom to an illness, and had a drunken abusive dad. his grandparents took him in, and then his grandpa judges him for loving someone?
thorn pulsar
It's not a hard thing to mod, but I think that dialog would really benefit from some of that old timer "I'm trying to understand" allyship
which I'm inevitably going to do
Not everyone wants that reminder in their game, in much the same way I can't stand Demetrius being so overprotective. I've dealt with that before, I know people who've dealt with that before, and I don't want to deal with it in fiction if it's not going to lead to growth.
and even then. eh.
ebon briar
demetrius - dont you go near my daughter
me - married to a 40 year old man who is old and dying
thorn pulsar
pffft
devout stream
obviously you're free to mod the game however you wish, but thats just reality and part of writing good characters is putting them into recognizable situations
thorn pulsar
oh absolutely
It just puts me off building that relationship. Like. I don't want to marry Alex if I have to deal with that. It's upsetting to me, and there's no recourse.
devout stream
thats fair, but if you're really into the roleplay of things, then love should always prevail
thorn pulsar
Oh absolutely
devout stream
(if you're not, thats fine too lol, just saying)
ebon briar
oh absolutely
thorn pulsar
yeah I'm very into the roleplay of each save, which is actually one of the reasons I care to mod it the way I do
ebon briar
ive never considered doing like rp in game
thorn pulsar
They don't need to be perfect or infallible. I just want them to learn and be the kind of people I'd work to befriend really closely.
ebon briar
ty keychain
thorn pulsar
The old man can be homophobic, but I'd like him to eventually. Not be.
devout stream
LOL @ morris
he is eventually nnot, spoonie :0
he will eventually become supportive of you and alex!
thorn pulsar
well that's good
lone mountain
is it only with alex that he makes comments?
devout stream
i believe so yeah
pastel iris
perhaps it's just our point of 'hard' is different, if I imagine george criticise me for that.. well back about 'grumpy old man' for me, at least he didn't tried to stop my relationship, just a gauge of leek will shut him up anyway lmao
I've experienced about parents not supportive about personal choice, both of my parents criticised my choice just because I wanted to be game developer but they never hindered my attempts on it, again, people are different so.. I'll take that as good point
devout stream
man azzy english not being your first language really shows sometimes.. no offense buddy. its hard to have a full conversation with you sometimes.
echo mesa
being unsupportive of career
isnt on the same level as being unsupportive as sexuality tho
*of sexuality
devout stream
^^
thorn pulsar
I know so many people whose parents/families have come around, but they're still traumatized by it. So I imagine some people would like an option where George is still true to his character and doesn't necessarily understand, but he's supportive.
devout stream
a career is something you can more or less help, change, you cant change who you love or what gender you love
echo mesa
like, you Pick your career
you dont got a choice about sexuality, sexuality is Just Part Of Who You Are
pastel iris
you mentioned about choice before, I thought you're generalising about sexual and career, but anyways I agree with your points
that's what matters
thorn pulsar
like, supportive from the get go
devout stream
correct me if im wrong azrael but i believe we had this discussion in DM's before
not specifically about george but about homosexual struggles.
pastel iris
anything about DM is discussed in DM, no need to bring it contents here, also key, I think this is different, I'm sorry if it sounds offensive but I never meant that way
devout stream
i didn't reveal contents of DM
im wondering why this general concept is still difficult for you to process ._.
anyways
stardew got sum pretty good writing and we may be looking at more depth in 1.4 and i cant WAIT
thorn pulsar
it's going to be very exciting
devout stream
lord i cannot wait
thorn pulsar
I'm looking forward to the additional lore/progression that further lore/progression can be built on
devout stream
im going
to draw so much
if abby even gets
1 more heart event
which she will, im pretty sure, based off of CA's Q&A
im going to draw SO MUCH
ebon briar
you come into abby's room
youve been dating for a while
she's on the floor
she's choking
she ate too many rocks
devout bridge
nothing says romance like someone throwing up gravel
ebon briar
meanwhile i get shit for drawing like 5 pics of morris
slams fist on table morris is hot nobody can argue otherwise
real void
wwwwwwwwwww
devout stream
ur more thann welcome to like whoever u like
devout bridge
but no wait george comes around tho cause like. yeah, he makes the comment, but its in past tense?? he even tells you that he supports you both now
slate yoke
He does come around yes
onyx island
if she's choking you should do the heimlich maneuver DX
devout bridge
its never brought up prior to him saying he supports you
devout stream
makco shhh
devout bridge
theres never a big bad convo about it
ebon briar
again i propose that we wheel george into the lake
that came off
a lot harsher
than i meant
devout bridge
i like george :c
ebon briar
hm
devout bridge
thats from the same conversation
slate yoke
No
devout bridge
theres never any confrontation
devout stream
is it? the tone really takes a 180 then
devout bridge
hes telling you how he used to think and how he supports you
slate yoke
It's really not the same convo, trust me I've seen it so many times now
devout stream
yeah i don't think it is
slate yoke
The first cap is before you have 10 hearts
Then at 10 hearts he changes and says the I used to think line
devout bridge
idk man ive romanced alex a lot but ive never gotten that without having the good talk?
slate yoke
And then says the thing in the bottom cap
They're both separate dialogues
I hate to say you're just misremembering but you're def just misremembering
devout stream
it really wouldn't make sense for it to be the same conversation either
the first cap is just a completely different mindset and tone
devout bridge
shrugs
slate yoke
Yep. And the bottom cap having the star for the heart box shows the change too
slate yoke
If they both had the red circle I'd accept I was wrong but they don't
I have an eye for detail 😉
echo mesa
what if
Alex x Abigail
devout stream
no
echo mesa
just Throwing It Out There
devout stream
thats illegal
devout stream
abby would strangle alex
slate yoke
Alex x Sam
thorn pulsar
Alex x Sam is top tier for me outside OT3
lone mountain
that sounds precious
echo mesa
Alex x Sam is Way better than Alex x Abigail
devout stream
im kinda surprised alex and sam aren't friends tbh
thorn pulsar
or well. OT4 if I'm involved
lone mountain
true
echo mesa
tbh, Sam seems the type to Befriend All
devout stream
sam just seems like the type of person who would play catch with alex
echo mesa
if I had any clue how to write Alex, I'd totally write for that
lament turtle
Sam and Sebby 
ebon briar
like the one thing i dislike about liking older bachelors is there's nobody to ship em with outside of ocs
devout stream
DAMN thats true as hell
lone mountain
such a good boy
devout bridge
sam is junk
lone mountain
oof
slate yoke
There's a reason I made him effectively Jackson's best friend
lone mountain
tru but i love him
ebon briar
like who tf i gonna ship harvey with
thorn pulsar
@echo mesa befriend Alex, marry Alex, then dig through the files and read through his dialog a bunch
ebon briar
pam???
lone mountain
i am junk too
devout bridge
its better than pock 😭
slate yoke
Sam is a blast to write for and his almost puppydog like nature is refreshing
echo mesa
if I did that tho
I'd have to Stop Obsessively Playing Skyrim for a while
thorn pulsar
Harvey and Penny would be p cute
lone mountain
im so dumb
thorn pulsar
as much as I love Penny and Maru
echo mesa
I love Harvey and Penny
theres this rly good fic about em on Ao3 but it hasnt been updated in Ages and I'm Cry
thorn pulsar
Harvey and Elliott?
stable elbow
simple
harvey/demetrius
thorn pulsar
oh my god
ebon briar
science dads!!
devout stream
this is just crackship central now
slate yoke
I vow to never be a writer who leaves a decently popular fic un-updated for months
stable elbow
science dads
lone mountain
i love crack ships
echo mesa
bless u Fable
lone mountain
thorn pulsar
who'd be the best person for a Robin and Demetrius ot3
ebon briar
slate yoke
I say decently popular because I've ignored my Pokemon fic entirely