creative-discussion

[slate yoke]

Fuck I'm doing this later

"Fable what happens during the timeskip?"

Jackson uses his communications minor to disastrous effects

And ValleyBook is born

The worst part? This is going to be 100% canon to my overall story too, since the first part's conflict is social media related

Not even gonna be a one shot, it's gonna be the next fuggin chapter

Sebastian accidentally sends an edgy meme to his family group chat instead of the personal one and Robin freaks out

"Sebby are you ok??? Do you need to talk to someone???"

"Mom it was just a meme."

"Depression isn't a joke Sebby!!"

[stable elbow]

sebastian 100% has an anime pfp

[slate yoke]

You bet

George's pfp is one of those shitty pfps that everyone's older uncle has

Blurry and taken from below

[stable elbow]

ahdgsgsh

my dad-

[slate yoke]

Yes

[stable elbow]

Evelyn’s is her flowers

[slate yoke]

Yes

That's the exact meme he sends

[stable elbow]

or alex’s baby pictures

[untold sorrel]

(dont ask why i have lol)

[onyx island]

Not the kind of meme you should send here though

[fleet gazelle]

True

[untold sorrel]

It is now gone x)

[fleet gazelle]

admin logs

[slate yoke]

Abbey uses it as a vent chat

Jackson mutes her every half hour as a time out

[untold sorrel]

www

[slate yoke]

God I love this

This is how you get people to read your fanfic, make a memey one shot chapter

[untold sorrel]

ah

[slate yoke]

Peko I'll be honest I keep seeing your pfp as a girl with a massive chin instead of hands

[untold sorrel]

i want to write! my story of sam and sebastian and farmer x)

oh my god wwww lmao

chin...like gakuen handsome

[slate yoke]

Big chin

[crude reef]

im actually sorta kinda working on a mod that makes seb and sam dialogue imply they're dating!

[untold sorrel]

ARARARA?????

[stable elbow]

i think there’s already one

[crude reef]

wwhawwahah

REALLY

[stable elbow]

if i can remember

yea

[crude reef]

good thing i didnt go too far working on it

[stable elbow]

it replaces their heart events to imply they’re dating

[untold sorrel]

please ;0; i have the ship of sam, sebastian and farmer all together cryes

[crude reef]

CUUUTE

[stable elbow]

you can still go ahead with it!!!

[crude reef]

nah i dont want to copy or anything >__<

[stable elbow]

it’s an xnb mod yiik

[crude reef]

!xnb

[young panther]

An XNB mod replaces some of your game's .xnb files to change the game (unlike newer mods that go in your Mods folder). This is an older type of mod that's no longer recommended, and can cause a number of issues. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for help using them (and a list of alternatives using Content Patcher), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).

[crude reef]

oh

wrong one

[slate yoke]

Yikes

[crude reef]

i meant the one where zola says 'i hate you'

[fleet gazelle]

Think it’s ‘!installxnb’?

[stable elbow]

also the op got called out for creeping someone over a post

[slate yoke]

Use .xnb loader!!!

[untold sorrel]

omg really

[slate yoke]

Or use content patcher!!!!

[crude reef]

!installxnb

[young panther]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Why_are_they_discouraged.3F https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/551549112965922828/xnb.png

[crude reef]

hehe

thanks

[slate yoke]

Oh my God

[stable elbow]

huehueh

[slate yoke]

What on earth is the context

[storm meadow]

@tidal nova explain bb

[pastel iris]

omg this again xD

[crude reef]

xnb's are bad
zola hates xnb

[slate yoke]

I mean they're right

[candid citrus]

whats wrong with xnb ):

[stable elbow]

only cavemen use xnb mods

[onyx island]

Ewww xnb mods

[slate yoke]

.xnb is how you fuck up your game

[fleet gazelle]

They cause issues sometimes

[pastel iris]

but in creative discussion instead of #making-mods-general

[crude reef]

yeah willow get whipped and nay nayed

[untold sorrel]

i wish I could draw more than chibi (´・ω・)

[crude reef]

your art is super cute the way it is!

[candid citrus]

wait but whats the alternative to xnb though

[slate yoke]

Content patcher

[stable elbow]

your art is cute peko

[slate yoke]

.xnb loader

[mighty bronze]

Nothing stopping you

[crude reef]

death

[slate yoke]

Both patch in the .xnb without directly replacing files

[candid citrus]

oh i don't think i was modding when that was a popular thing

[pastel iris]

alternative of xnb is content patcher

[candid citrus]

neat

[crude reef]

a lot of mods on cafe naver are xnb

[pastel iris]

😄

[crude reef]

so i had to convert them for myself

[stable elbow]

😔✊

[untold sorrel]

wah, thank you (〃ω〃)

[slate yoke]

@untold sorrel Chibi is a valid style

You embrace what you do best

[crude reef]

i got a really nice farmhouse redesign mod from them and most (if not all?) of my portraits are from cafe naver too

[stable elbow]

the foreign fandom doesn’t really know much about smapi/cp

[pastel iris]

by the way someone mentioned me before o.O

[crude reef]

a ghost

[pastel iris]

ah found it, between those long walls of texts xD

@lament turtle
thx was messing with my style lmao

[crude reef]

i wanna do a multiplayer group where everyone tries to go through the deep woods mod successfully

[tidal nova]

I was pinged

[crude reef]

we were discussing xnb hehe

[pastel iris]

yeah

explain about this

!installxnb

[young panther]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Why_are_they_discouraged.3F https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/551549112965922828/xnb.png

[tidal nova]

[slate yoke]

Fuck .xnb

[untold sorrel]

that emoji lMAO

[tidal nova]

I read the convo

If y'all wanna understand why I hate them

It's because it's outdated as fuck

And the op of the mods don't say it

Nor the version

So noob modders take them

[pastel iris]

I de-converted one of zola's mod back to xnb and I got insta-karma tomorrow after that

[fleet gazelle]

Well it works most of the time

[tidal nova]

And 'my games doesn't work anymore "

[ebon briar]

Alright I've been thinking more about the zine now that I have a day off.

General SDV zine - Not focused on any specific thing in SDV, really. Physical and digital release. Physical release will most likely have to be curated depending on number of applicants and variety of art submitted.

Thinking for physical release maybe A5 size?

In terms of the actual content of the zine, an anything goes approach would be the best. Draw something inspired from a cutscene, a day on the farm, your stardew favs, etc etc.

The one thing I'm stuck on right now is... OCs. OC farmers will most likely be allowed if they're in a piece with other canon characters but I'm not sure about having OC farmers on their own?

[crude reef]

😩
source here sorry ( https://cafe.naver.com/starvall/46960 )

[pastel iris]

.. shane? o.O

[ebon briar]

!!

Seb?

[crude reef]

nope abigail

[pastel iris]

holy fuck

[crude reef]

SHOCKING TRUTH

[ebon briar]

i see it now

[crude reef]

anyways go on

what is zine btw is it vine or am i lost

[ebon briar]

Zine

It's like... an anthology almost?

[slate yoke]

A compendium of art from various artists

[ebon briar]

In this case its people submit art based on whatever theme, it gets compiled into a book and printed

[crude reef]

oh okay!

that sounds cool

[ebon briar]

I'm just trying to work out like kinks in it n stuff

[stable elbow]

sounds cool b

[pastel iris]

care to re-explain the slot system again? is it like one slot for each characters or wut? o.O

[ebon briar]

I'm honestly going to drop the 'slot' system I think?

It was just a way to arbitrarily assign artists to characters to avoid us having like, 9 drawings of one bachelor but 2 of another

But with physical release being curated I don't really need to worry?

[pastel iris]

I don't really know if it's a wise decision xD

[slate yoke]

If it's being curated it should be fine, there's a level of content control that way

[ebon briar]

Yeah.

[untold sorrel]

@crude reef KAMISAMA GIVE ME THAt mOD PLEASE

[devout bridge]

So 👀 is sdv zine/antho happening

[crude reef]

it's on cafe naver so if you don't have an account you can't download it... i can download it for you though and DM?

[pastel iris]

sharing it right here doesn't hurt :x

[ebon briar]

i

i think its gonna be happening

[untold sorrel]

Sure! ;; is it all of the village/bachelor?

[crude reef]

that one is only abigail but there are other ones too

[devout bridge]

Ohoho

[ebon briar]

I'm gonna do a proper writeup and stuff to make it look professional, then I'll bug CA about it. I'd love to get approval from him or get a foreword on it

[crude reef]

i've seen uhhh
maru, leah, multiple abigails

[devout bridge]

I'm. A slut for zine work so like. Drop a link if u do applications

👀 💦 ✌

[stable elbow]

has there been a zine for sdv?

[crude reef]

and @pastel iris i guess you're right

it's xnb so if that makes you ugh you'll have to convert

[slate yoke]

.xnb

[devout stream]

I heard someone say "multiple abigails"

[pastel iris]

^ boom

[ebon briar]

OH SHIT LMAO There is one already

BUT

[pastel iris]

doesn't take long to convert? should I do the honour? 😄

[ebon briar]

The preorders for it closed a while ago

[crude reef]

lol it's one of those genderswap mods i don't know how people feel about them generally so i don't want to link if it offends some people :x

[ebon briar]

And all the zines for it were shipped out in January

[devout stream]

ive yet to see any ftm mods I like

[crude reef]

the pic i sent was of abigail

[devout stream]

WHAT

[pastel iris]

that was genderswap abigail before??

[devout stream]

that looks more like shane

[crude reef]

yup

[ebon briar]

Like applications were open from... july to august of last year.

[crude reef]

really? looks cleaner than shane sorry shane

[pastel iris]

heck I thought it was pixie hair version of abigail

[crude reef]

shane is... scruffy boy

i guess if you wanna see it that way you 100% can

[devout stream]

looks like seb too

with less hair

[stable elbow]

https://stardewvalleyzine.tumblr.com/

hoh

[crude reef]

there was art of him on there too but i dont have a source so i'll post it then delete it super fast

[ebon briar]

thats the zine i was mentioning

[stable elbow]

oh shahafshsj

[crude reef]

gone forever.

[ebon briar]

its like

[untold sorrel]

OH NO

[ebon briar]

Preorders literally JUST closed

[crude reef]

DID U MISS IT

[ebon briar]

like two weeks ago

[pastel iris]

wait wut?

I missed it :/

[devout stream]

I missed it

[crude reef]

rip

[ebon briar]

So I Mean

[stable elbow]

well anyways they don’t own sdv 🤘

[crude reef]

ok repost 5 seconds

[ebon briar]

If this is an 8 month cycle

Yeah exactly

If this is an 8 month production cycle from opening apps to shipping out we should be fine

[devout stream]

lord that is not Abby

[stable elbow]

wew

[slate yoke]

It's Abby

Just

[crude reef]

hey i'm just the messenger

[slate yoke]

Another Abby

[pastel iris]

lmao bookmarked xD

[crude reef]

🤷

[devout stream]

that's an entirely different character lol

its not bad

[crude reef]

people say in the comments it looks like vanilla seb lol

[devout stream]

it's just the most non-Abigail genderswap I've seen

[stable elbow]

ppl here really love sdv and know more about it than most ppl

[devout stream]

IT DOES

[crude reef]

there are others one sec

[untold sorrel]

CAWAII

[stable elbow]

zine would be awesome

[pastel iris]

not edgy enough for sebby lmao

[crude reef]

softboy seb

[devout stream]

I've never actually done genderswaps of my farmer / Abby..... something to add to the to-do list

[stable elbow]

also sorry if i came across as discouraging, i wasnt trying to b

[ebon briar]

I liked that abby tbh

[stable elbow]

i just suck ass at communicating 😔👊

it’s a pretty unique abby

[crude reef]

is it possible to send folders over discord... probably not

[pastel iris]

oh fuck all my arts is still on rgb

not cmyk 😭

[crude reef]

there are 3 files:
1 - he smiles more
2 - normal
3 - walking sprite

[stable elbow]

skinney abbey

[crude reef]

i dont wanna drop 30294 files so just DM me if you want them!

[devout stream]

its unique and well drawn but it really fails to capture abbys character and unique features. it looks more like a more feminine seb or a cleaner shane.

[untold sorrel]

👀

[stable elbow]

👁w👁

[pastel iris]

its unique and well drawn but it really fails to capture abbys character and unique features. it looks more like a more feminine seb or a cleaner shane.
what about my abby key? :V

[devout stream]

what is yours?

[pastel iris]

it's not mod ready yet, but I overhauled her to be looking more.. wild than before xD

you could notice my version of whenever I draw abby is more spikey right?

[devout stream]

ye

[crude reef]

ok wait keychain i think i have one that you might like better

( source: https://cafe.naver.com/starvall/19062 ) is this more 'abagail'y to you? 🤔

[molten scroll]

That's really good!

[devout stream]

I like that they tried to keep the bang style similar but more toned down

that actually looks better

[pastel iris]

in case if you found my style of abby is far-fetched, I'd be willing to change it once the time is right 😄

needs more time looking for ideas anyway o.O

[devout stream]

a lot of ppl draw abbys hair differently I noticed so its not that farfetched

I draw it curly and long, like a mix between her portrait and world sprite

some people just go all out on either one

curly short or long straight

[pastel iris]

well, so far I haven't seen people draws abby with straight hair mode like I do

[zealous tree]

im thinking about later today doodle my farmer Keaka and Shane interacting in some of Shane's heart events. sounds like a good idea?

[untold sorrel]

do what you want!

[pastel iris]

as if her curly hair is like her main characteristic

[ebon briar]

Yo in terms of zine, pulling discussion back to this again

In terms of 'merch'

Pins and stickers sound fair?

And what do you all think would be fair compensation for people who don't make it into the physical zine

[pastel iris]

nub question kred? if I were in this zine project, do I have to ship those.. products like stickers, postcards, etc? o.O

[ebon briar]

What do you mean? Production will all be handled on my end

I don't expect contributors to do any manufacturing lol

[stable elbow]

acrylic charms?

[pastel iris]

alright so.. you're handling any prints, noted

sorry I'm really new to this kind of thing lmao

[devout stream]

i have seen it plenty, azrael. you just aren't following a ton of Abby artists like I am :P

[ebon briar]

Probably not. Acrylic charms are very costly to produce

[untold sorrel]

Pins and stickers cute! For digital, maybe compensation for digital only spreads!

[pastel iris]

what about the colour mode? obviously it needs to be cmyk right?

[devout stream]

https://twitter.com/shinonome_6334/status/1095689210227449856

東雲 (@shinonome_6334)

「おいしかった？」
「うん」

Twitter

here is one, for starters

[ebon briar]

Yep, CMYK

Won't be accepting pre-existing art

[pastel iris]

my fucking bad habit : forgot to change colour mode whenever I started making arts

[stable elbow]

yea true pretty costly

[ebon briar]

Mmm contributors can post crops of their final piece but I'd say wait a month or so until after shipping ends to post final piece publicly

[untold sorrel]

true!

im restless , i wanna make something now lol

[ebon briar]

Again if anyone reading is interested shoot me a DM

think of this is a babby interest check LOL

[pastel iris]

as for not accepting pre-existing art, I'm not kinda sure what counts to this criteria :/

as it's never been posted before or wut?

[stable elbow]

any art made before this

[ebon briar]

As in don't dig out art that youve already made to put into the zine

[stable elbow]

new art only

[ebon briar]

All artists who make it into the digital zine will be given the full digital zine pdf.
All artists who make it into the physical zine will be sent a copy of the zine, minus shipping (unless in Canada).
All artists who produced merchandise will be sent a copy of the zine, plus merchandise.

Does this sound fair?

[untold sorrel]

hmm...what if i had no merch, but i want the version with?

[ebon briar]

i mean keep in mind this is all like compensation

[pastel iris]

I get it it's new art, but is it like literally must be start from the scratch?

[stable elbow]

yes

[pastel iris]

you know that everytime I made arts, I always have 2 versions : incomplete traditional and digital due to my lack of equipment

so what if the traditional has been made, but the digital is not yet?

[untold sorrel]

it needs to be something made exclusively for the zine

you can't take something already made (in the case, taking that and just digital it) that's still something already made (in my opinion, feel free to correct)

[slate yoke]

No you're right

The appeal of a zine is special art made just fo rit

[ebon briar]

^^

[pastel iris]

like I said : incomplete traditional, so does this counts as 'already made' or not?

note that 'incomplete'

[ebon briar]

Mmm I'd consider it already made

[untold sorrel]

Zine, in my opinion, is something to celebrate a work. It's something made people who love it. So, take the time to make something to show how much you love it! :)

[slate yoke]

If you sign up for a zine you need to be ready to contribute your best possible work fresh for it

It's like working for a company

[pastel iris]

alright I'll keep it noted

as about the content, is there any restrictions?

I'm not sure if I seen you mentioned 'kinky' word before o.O so the rule is pretty much same here? sexy art is allowed but not sexualised art?

[ebon briar]

oh sjdhgjk kink is like

ironing out kinks

like roadblocks

nothing nsfw, lewd, or gory

[pastel iris]

I'll DM you my idea is just to make sure

[fleet gazelle]

Just make sure it obids by the rules (that’s a word right?)

[rich delta]

zines are p cool

[untold sorrel]

im excited!

[devout bridge]

I love zines

[rich delta]

i remember when people were making those pokemon variation zines all by themselves i was so proud

[devout bridge]

Ive been in a few of them so I could help mod things if you want? :0

[ebon briar]

that'd be super appreciated fee!!

[devout bridge]

Like I try and be in at least 4 a year lmao so I've picked up some things

[ebon briar]

i'm currently like scouting out printing sites now

[rich delta]

feebs 4 zine jumanji

[devout bridge]

Okay! Just shoot me a dm and I can ask my old zine crew where they shopped at

[unkempt tendon]

Half way slime

[slate yoke]

BABY BOY, BABY

[unkempt tendon]

xD

17 frames

probably only animation i really do simple but still

in piskel i get to see how end product looks as i draw the slides

and prolly only pixel ones i do too

[hollow birch]

it's cute

[lament turtle]

Aww issa lil babie slime

[hollow birch]

I hate slimes in sv but yeah xD its still cute

[unkempt tendon]

i hate serpents and bats

[hollow birch]

Nice!

Can you color it

[unkempt tendon]

its here cause its wip xD

[hollow birch]

I have no idea how to make those things

You are a genius

[jaunty tundra]

grab my arms ye clumsy asshöle

[unkempt tendon]

Part of any slime hutch in coming

[hollow birch]

Woa

[jaunty tundra]

ooo nice!!

[unkempt tendon]

insert the song party rock when this slime enters view xD

my phone no want to work waah

no internet and me wanna vc as i do mah slimey boy/ girl

i mean its not good enough net to let me join vc and use it

[lament turtle]

pic of me I wish that I could draw like this kinda stuff, with the background and such. or that I had enough money to pay someone who was good to do it 😂

[unkempt tendon]

­­­ ­­­­­­im not the best but i got some skill in landscape

my phone gonna be end of me >.>

[lament turtle]

It does make me sad though because like it was in colorado and??? theres no mountains lol

[unkempt tendon]

i need my phone to work finally

i need net

i want to vc with people hisssss

[rich delta]

vent art turned into possible merch??? find out at 11

[unkempt tinsel]

awww!

[pastel iris]

is there any parts that you found buggy in your eyes guys? I'm kinda felt buggy but not sure which part it is

[slate yoke]

Mouth feels like the perspective is off

[pastel iris]

and where do you suggest to move it?

[slate yoke]

I think it's less move it and more make it a touch larger. Also, I believe the top part of the mouth needs to be concave instead of convex to follow the curvature of the face

[supple canopy]

Also it should be at least partially in the shadowed zone of the face as currently the mouth would be ending at the nose

[pastel iris]

Also it should be at least partially in the shadowed zone of the face as currently the mouth would be ending at the nose
uh.. I'm not sure what you mean 🤔

so what I did is changing the upper part of the mouth just like fable said and moving the whole mouth to the left little bit

[lament turtle]

azra that awesome! i love the shading! can i give you a tip on the mouth tho?

just posted the misty upgrade in #creative

oooo

you can tell the difference. Small difference but big looks.

both are awesome!

[pastel iris]

@lament turtle oh by all means sakura xD

I'll listen any inputs you've got

[unkempt tendon]

the gullible idiot in midle of winter hopes to get butterfly xD

[lament turtle]

the mouth is too...triangular

[unkempt tendon]

its him in the game lol

just got the dialog xD

[neat iris]

Okay I need you guys help once more

And then I'll stop bugging you

[lament turtle]

wassup?

[neat iris]

So I'm writing this chapter where Shane is jealous about the farmer and Elliott's relationship

But turns out Elliott is using Shane and the farmer as inspiration for his latest book

I'm trying to figure out what Elliott and Shane would say to one another since they don't really interact

[lament turtle]

maybe shane could like scream at elliot

and elliot can kindly explain the situation to shane

and the farmer being like "you see? no need to worry, shane" and then shane being like you're right, im sorry, and elliot jotting down the conversation between shane and the farmer

[neat iris]

Ohhhh that's good.

I just had Elliott asking about Shane's thoughts relating to the farmer

And Shane was getting defensive and aggressive

[lament turtle]

the farmer could be like shane, don't be cold with elliot, he just thinks we're cute together and that we're a good inspiration

[stable elbow]

idk i think him responding sarcastically and acting snarky while answering would better fit him

[lament turtle]

eh idk this is just my suggestion

[pastel iris]

that's a rather.. vague input xD
just to let you know I've actually changed the mouth shape a lil bit before you asked

would be much quicker if you have references and post it here rather than just words xD

[lament turtle]

okay sorry so what i meant is that it doesn't look natural enough. I know the way you made the curve is to give it more depth but it's too...geometrical. And i feel like it's too pointy on the bottom

[candid parrot]

I found this online i ike idea i think i may make something like this

[pastel iris]

pointy at the bottom.. well I guess you're right

[neat iris]

Bruh

That's so good

[pastel iris]

well I guess this looks better xD

I guess vector designing makes me forget such details like pointy ends xD

[lament turtle]

I hope this one is acceptable here. I wanted to give my Lilitel that lovely Morticia Addams look

how are you cool people doing? Having a productive time I hope?

[pastel iris]

oh gawd hec's art returns

any art is acceptable hec, as long it's not against the rules

[lament turtle]

too bad I can't finish my sdv fan arts. Procrastination is evil

I've made this today as well, but god, it's so cursed. I don't know what I've been thinking about really

[pastel iris]

dat hair on the legs

[onyx island]

Lol that's definitely cursed

[pastel iris]

procrastination is not evil, its an ouchie

artblock is evil

[onyx island]

But the other drawing you showed looks gorgeous

[tawny lynx]

When you walkin'

[lament turtle]

awww thank you

artblock is indeed an evil things. But I wish I'd stop being so lazy and start making money I guess

[stable elbow]

hello hecatta!!

[lament turtle]

working with people is a little scary

heeey 😄

[stable elbow]

i always love seeing your art

[brazen lark]

ye^^

[lament turtle]

that warms my heart ❤

[pastel iris]

give heca artisan role

[brazen lark]

and the dnd community always got money if ur into freelancing a lot

they gotta have the farmer role first

[lament turtle]

I am fine with the role I have, no worries :з

besides I am not that talkative anyway, sadly

the dnd huh

I don't know much about dnd, honestly

[pastel iris]

does that dnd term means dungeon and dragons? ._.

or smth else?

[lament turtle]

but I've always been into drawing portraits or illustrations of characters

[pastel iris]

everytime heca posts an art, I feel like I'm not worthy of my artisan role

[lament turtle]

I just worry that some people may be very harsh, I am very sensitive and soft. Too bad

[ebon briar]

are those weed socks

[lament turtle]

no! don't say that!

[tawny lynx]

DnD is Dungeons and Dragons, and a lot of people would like their characters drawn.

[ebon briar]

i never considered thered be a market in dnd

[tawny lynx]

You have a sellable level of skill Hecatta.

[lament turtle]

every artisan is great here and sure deserves their role! o:

[safe goblet]

there's a huge market for dnd characters yeah

[lament turtle]

Please, I didn't want to make anyone feel bad :c

[pastel iris]

Please, I didn't want to make anyone feel bad :c
it's a joke hec xD

[lament turtle]

sorry, I am a dummy 😅

[frosty merlin]

Hello I am [DnD player] and lemme tell you, seeing your character realized by someone else is an amazing feeling

[ebon briar]

i guess yeah

as a wannabe dnd player i can imagine that feeling

[frosty merlin]

There's an artist in the DND party I'm in and she does little comics and every time I see my character I am delighted

[lament turtle]

maybe I should learn more about dnd then

[safe goblet]

im the artist of my dnd group but my dnd group don't play dnd they play WoW and pretend it's DnD -___-

[brazen lark]

ye ive made hundreds of dollars from designing dnd characters for people

[pastel iris]

tbh I really wanted to do commission mainly for dnd, but ever since I watched skallagrim videos, I'm kinda felt buggy when I draw impractical fantasy weapons and armour xD

[safe goblet]

"where's our next quest hwat are we killing and whats the reward" n they actively hate roleplaying

[frosty merlin]

A while ago, there was a challenge to draw people's Farmers from their SDV games and only one person drew mine but I'll cherish it forever bc it's so good

[brazen lark]

the real treasure is when everyone in your dnd party (including yourself) are all artists so ur constantly getting fed art

[safe goblet]

my gf is an artist too so when she plays as well we have two artists

it's fun to see our perspectives on the characters :v

[frosty merlin]

Also hi everyone I'm back after a long time and I have some music lemme quick grab it and post it in creative

[brazen lark]

welcome back riku, its nice to see u again!

[lament turtle]

heya :з

[frosty merlin]

Nice to be back! I'm glad to see not only familiar faces and new art of old ocs, but a bunch of new peeps! Here's a very, very late welcome to you all!

[pastel iris]

by the way hec do you have an art site?

[brazen lark]

i look forward to listening to ur music again :>

[onyx island]

Sweet, moar music!

[lament turtle]

site? Only tumblr and FA page

[pastel iris]

your cel shading is soo good, if you don't mind using your art as my cel shading references?

[lament turtle]

oh I don't mind, no worries

[pastel iris]

don't worry it won't be same because I'm doing vector lmao

[safe goblet]

((just saying imo you should use real life for reference as much as you can, if you reference other peoples art you'll just end up with a sort of... diluted version of what they're doing since you dont understand the source))

[lament turtle]

It's good when you can inspire or give new ideas how to draw

[pastel iris]

it's just some shading positions

[safe goblet]

and that will impact your flexibility

[ebon briar]

I use a bit of both!

I use a lot of irl refs

but its also nice to have, say

[pastel iris]

I'm using both, cat, I know

[ebon briar]

a folder full of artists who draw eyes a certain way that you like

[safe goblet]

just making sure

[ebon briar]

so then you can go through if youre sturggling with stylising eyes

[safe goblet]

and i agree morris

[pastel iris]

the problem is my camera quality is damn low

[ebon briar]

and pick and choose 'i like how this person draws the eyelashes and this person does the iris'

[pastel iris]

if you ever seen my art you will know how crap it is :/

*traditional art

[lament turtle]

as long as it's not a complete copy or tracing, it can be very inspiring and motivating looking at other's art and techniques

[pastel iris]

xD it's impossible to trace your shade in vector software hec xD

[lament turtle]

I'm just saying

[safe goblet]

i started out the same way as you azrael

i think it's a good idea to like look into fundamentals as you're comfortable doing so and have maybe a traditional sketchbook too that you can draw in whenever'

[pastel iris]

so what's your tumblr again?

[lament turtle]

I can dm you

hold on

[pastel iris]

oh by all means, it's more fun doing in dm 👀

[lament turtle]

huh?😅

[devout bridge]

someone kick my ass and make me do zine work if im not going to work on my report

[frozen plaza]

sure, wer u live m8?

[fleet gazelle]

@lament turtle grats on artisan!!

[lament turtle]

thank u froz!!

[pastel iris]

omg sakura is artisan

[fleet gazelle]

Yes she is now

[pastel iris]

congratz sakura 🎉

[fleet gazelle]

🎉

[lament turtle]

thank you azrael!! ❤

[frosty merlin]

Congrats!

[lament turtle]

thank uuuu

[ebon briar]

welcome to artisan,,,

[jovial sandal]

Yeah ^

[hard lynx]

Welcome 2 yellow party

[lament turtle]

thank chuu

[jovial sandal]

ywyw ouo

[ebon briar]

god i want to buy these fucking art books but theyre like...

90 dollars

then its another 40 to ship them

[jovial sandal]

dang 😮

[ebon briar]

theyre the fucking,,

how to think when you draw books

[jovial sandal]

what does that "how to think when you draw books" mean? sorry i'm a bit clueless lawl

[storm meadow]

me too

[ebon briar]

theyre like tutoial compilations hold on lemme grab the link

[storm meadow]

Oh that’s well worth the price

[ebon briar]

https://theetheringtonbrothers.blogspot.com/p/every-how-to-think-when-you-draw.html I think I should be allowed to post this?? i dont think it couts as advertising

this is a list of 200 of their tutorials

and theyre super clear and apply to any skill level

[storm meadow]

One of my many purchases is a tutorial vid of a single painting. Costed me $75

You know
if you think it’s worth it, you get it.
I understand that the shipping is damn nut but I have a feeling that the actual price of the book must have been thoroughly evaluated by the artist themselves

I think giving book recommendations is fine and could be really helpful for some of us here looking for guides!

I’m so sorry if I came off rather hostile with this
I read it as you not being happy with the pricing of the book

[ebon briar]

all good!!

the pricing is totally fair

its just a limited time offer through kickstarter that i just dont have the money for at the momet

[storm meadow]

Let’s hope that when they get funded enough they will have an online shop with affordable pricing!

I’ve clicked through their links and they’re all really good and easy to follow/get ideas from
Thanks for sharing!

[ebon briar]

They're doing it as like a specifically limited time thing

[neat iris]

Wow. I wrote more for a Drabble I did for Shane and the farmer in less than 1 hours than the Drabble I've been working on all week.

Not sure if I should be impressed or disappointed

[mellow whale]

Impressed

[devout stream]

oink

[safe goblet]

meow

meow's it goin art peeps

[hollow summit]

I bought new watercolor paper and 4 new brushes last night. I am ready

[jaunty tundra]

lep

[pastel iris]

apparently I transformed emily to aqua

@ phis
nice details o.o
is that lips?

[mighty bronze]

amazing azrael!

[lament turtle]

soooooo is anyone here good at pixel art?

[lone mountain]

writing biographies are hard

[lone mountain]

wordcounter is such a nice website ugh

also i have to develop side characters now and im too lazy

[slate yoke]

You can do it Jev!!

[neat iris]

Yeah!

Also I wrote a little Drabble Shane and the farmer trying to build a crib for their baby and I realized I was supposed to finish the other Drabble I had started earlier.

[rich delta]

@ Sakura whassup

[lament turtle]

oh hi!

[rich delta]

Howdy o/ what's up with pixel art

[lament turtle]

im making an npc mod and i suck at drawing lmfao

so i was wondering if anyone would be willing to draw for me

[rich delta]

Ohdang :0 I've never done art for an sdv mod but hmmm would it be commission or request? Because I'm sure someone on the boards or here should be down with experience with that but knowing if it's a job or not is a starter

[lament turtle]

its more like a request, cuz im broke af lmfao

[rich delta]

Ahhh that's understandable u3u money is hard sometimes

[lament turtle]

yeah lmfao

[ebon briar]

Mmm I might be able to help?? What are the deets

[lament turtle]

so i'd give you a few descriptions and things i'd like the character to look like so you can draw it

[ebon briar]

Full sprite sheet including portraits?

[lament turtle]

just portraits, i can do the sprite sheet (i assume i can)

of course ill give you credit in the mod list

[ebon briar]

How many portraits are needed

Some NPCs (ie pierre, morris) have only like 4 portraits while some (sebastian penny) have like 10

[lament turtle]

hmm lemme see

[ebon briar]

Is the npc like romancable

[lament turtle]

yes he is

[ebon briar]

Or is it another townsperson you can talk to

Av

Ah

Does he have any unique expressions or outfit changes

[lament turtle]

as a unique expression i was thinking either annoyed or melancholic

the ones that are basic that i need are neutral, happy, sad, love, angry and unique

[ebon briar]

Cause I think the expressions are something like
Neutral
Happy
Annoyed
Angry
Sad
Surprised
Blushing
Unique

For most Romancable NPCs ajyways

[lament turtle]

oh okay so let's do all of them and for unique we can do melancholic, so not sad, just pensive and a bit sad

[ebon briar]

For sure. My schedule is a little full but I'll let you know if it clears up and I have time for reqs

[lament turtle]

awesome, thank you!

[devout bridge]

https://twitter.com/amildlatte/status/1111017641135636480 i have never felt so validated 😭

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[unkempt tinsel]

awww

[devout bridge]

fr though

a fish got bills 2 pay and dog food to buy

[hollow summit]

👏 👏

🙌

[native swallow]

The only problem is, for me at least, it's hard to find the funding to get artists, to create games, to find funding... Kinda an upside-down pyramid scheme

I'm not complaining about them being overpriced though, Actually I think most are underpaid. It's just that the market is so skewed against artists and developers alike.

[devout bridge]

nah at the end of the day, someones desire to create something is outweighed by my right to live. if someone doesn't have the funding it isn't my issue and they're free to get back to me in the future when they can afford it.

[native swallow]

That's very true, but there's also the issue of the Devs right to live. I mean, technically I still live in my parents house, so it's not that big a deal to me, but still. It costs something like $4m to create a game, which may or may not pay off.

Plus, a Dev needs Artists, and Artists need Devs.

If one goes under, so does the other

Additionally, during the creation of a game, the artists are payed either by hour or per work, which means that if the studio goes under, they can join a new studio. The owner of that studio, if it goes down, loses everything.

[echo mesa]

no? artists
dont rly need devs
theres a lot of art to be made outside of what a dev needs/wants

[native swallow]

Other than TV shows? Not much steady work. None that comes to mind.

[candid citrus]

i think in this context they're talking about commissioners and like personalised art of ... OCs or something. not on a large scale like a game

[native swallow]

Oh yeh absolutely, I know people who make crazy amounts of money from commissions (Especially furries, man that community is NUTS)

But that's not exactly steady work. A studio could hire an artist for 2-3 years (Or in some cases, 5-10 years), whereas commissions are dependent on if you can find work or not

[echo mesa]

those
still arent the only options
theres ways for an artist to have a somewhat decent income without relying on devs
gestures to youtubers, people with Patreon, etc etc

[candid citrus]

yeah !

[lone mountain]

def not youtube LOL

atleast not recently

[candid citrus]

also no one said it was steady work, they're saying the amount of time it takes for an individual piece to be completed compared to how much they're charging for it is lower than minimum wage, not that they get constant payment at that level

[echo mesa]

f

[candid citrus]

if that makes any sense

[lone mountain]

also how tf do you write a characters personality if theyre shy but more open past that

like order wise

[untold sorrel]

chicken man

[candid citrus]

bok bok

[stable elbow]

CUTE

[untold sorrel]

his hair is hard lol

[lone mountain]

usually ill write 'this character is so and so but deep down theyre so and so'

but like it feels like such a bad and beginners way of writing

[native swallow]

Again, I agree with you. That's very true. Though I don't think I agree with youtube, it's kinda meh for making money. Also I agree with you Willow, but the average budget for a developer per artist is $10K a month, or $120K a year. That's... actually more than my dad, a firefighter, who supports five kids and his wife. He makes like $90k per year.

Mostly I'm just bellyaching about the stupid rise in the costs for the creation of a game, from $1m to on average $5m

[ebon briar]

It also completely depends on the project.

Hell, SDV's art and coding was all done by CA

Honestly if you're starting out in the dev industry and want to make an indie game... start small. something 2D. pixel art means you don't need to put quite as much detail into everything and you have perfect control over the art.

((though that isnt saying that pixel art cant be detailed,,, you have more control over it))

[rich delta]

ca had drive and determination that you won't see most people have
not to diss anyone else's drive and determination, just like there were sacrifices made

also this is where i'd say go to school for whatever you want to do, if you're worried about costs/networking/communications/etc like what you're saying
because that's one of the ways you're gonna find it easiest/best to get the connections you need to have the funding, the investors, the artists/devs, the companies, interested in you
...unless you just do like no networking in school, or your school sucks ass in that department
then rip

[candid citrus]

yeah $1m-$5m is not the budget for smaller indie games

[rich delta]

i could see $1m at most, but def not $5m

[ebon briar]

And if you do need to hire someone, hiring a freelancer to do some simpler sprites will be a more affordable compared to hiring someone to do 3d models etc.

[rich delta]

also! crowdfunding is a great source as of late if you have even the slightest of an audience
unless you're willing to take the sacrifices necessary in order to figure things out yourself

[ebon briar]

crowdfunding could work yeah

[rich delta]

might have to pay for advertising a bit, though, but facebook etc is GREAT for audiences

[ebon briar]

and also adapting your skillset!

[rich delta]

like it feels weird to say, but if you're an artist/developer/anything, facebook is the place to be for your business

[ebon briar]

and yeah crowdfunding, even if you do have to diversify your skillset for it or end up spendng a few hundred for assets

cause if you show a working version of your game, you can pay an artist to do only what's necessary for what's being shown

[native swallow]

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm doing, but I've been an entrepreneur since I could walk, so I'm also gonna pay for a lot of it out of pocket

The budget for the game I'm currently working on is projected to be $60-$100K

[ebon briar]

What kind of game are you planning?

[rich delta]

^ mobile or pc

[candid citrus]

how far into development are u ?

[native swallow]

2D, story driven, PC

[ebon briar]

If this is your first game it'll be a lot easier to step into the field if you're doing a 2D sidescroller as opposed to a full 3Dmmo

[native swallow]

And right now I'm just making the funds for it.

Also I've been doing Unity game development and Programming for five years

I've put out some smaller 3D and 2D games, mostly for school projects and crap, but yeah

[rich delta]

ayyy school is a good place to start
is there nowhere irl that you're able to host something at like a job fair?

if you're not in the city, i know it can be tough

[native swallow]

Ehhhhhhhhhh we're 30 minutes from civilization xD

[rich delta]

F

[native swallow]

The nearest place to get food is either A) our backyard or B) 20 min away

[rich delta]

what about hosting a panel at nearby conventions and looking into that?

[native swallow]

Again, in my memory there's never been a convention (Other than a political one) within a 60 mile radius

[rich delta]

F

have you tried forums/boards?

[native swallow]

The joke around here is that you can find us if you get lost, and only if you aren't trying to

Like online ones?

[rich delta]

yeah

[native swallow]

To hire artists, or to acquire funding?

[rich delta]

both, i guess

[native swallow]

welll I've asked around about artists, and I'm compiling a list, but not really about funding

[ebon briar]

Honestly, I think you should get a working prototype,

Hire artists to do only what's absolutely necescary to show off on kickstarter or somethin

[native swallow]

I'm starting a line of clothing and crap (Like phone cases), for a kickstarter campaign

Yeah, then to do that, Morris

[rich delta]

the clothing and so on outside of initial prototype designs can admittedly wait until right before the campaign kicks off, unless that was already your plan

starting funds can go towards the prototype first as priority imo, but that's just me

[native swallow]

Well the apparel and stuff is completely unrelated to the actual game.

[rich delta]

so more for your own company merch...?

[native swallow]

It's to generate revenue to put towards making a prototype WHICH can then be used for ANOTHER kickstarter campaign for the actual game

Trust me I'm not insane, despite my mother saying so

[rich delta]

oh so a bit of what kynseed did kinda?

[native swallow]

kynseed? Not heard of 'em

[rich delta]

tl;dr people from the company that made fable decided to, after the company was axed, create their own game
they created a kickstarter to create their game in the first place, but all they were able to get done was a prototype
it's in early access rn but they're using the funds from the early access to steadily build their studio as well as their game

if you're unfamiliar with fable, it was a triple A game under microsoft (i think? i know they were affiliated)

[native swallow]

ohhhh actually my bros play Fable

I didn't know it was still in early access, that thing's ancient

[rich delta]

kynseed is indeed still in early access

[native swallow]

ohhhh ok I understand

well

I mean it's kinda like that

but the thing is, I'm dead broke, so I need money to actually be able to make a prototype to put onto Kickstarter

and thus the line of apparel

[rich delta]

... how adult are you wanting to go with this
i'm not saying you aren't already or that the other options aren't adult but
because there's the possibility of small business loan, getting investors, and tl;dr credit things that you can do to help gather initial funds
but those end up hitting your credit and that can be a whole mess if you have no current way of at least staving off the additional interest of it all

like the experience you have with coding, is that from a job, or

[native swallow]

Trust me I've read through other options. But you must understand that I'm actually below the legal age to take out a business loan, or to get a job

[rich delta]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

this entire time i assumed you were like in your mid-20's wanting to take on the indie game leagues

i need to stop assuming everyone's my age

[native swallow]

xD

meh

[rich delta]

okay so when i was talking school, i was talking like, college

high school isn't gonna get you any networking unless you go the extra mile with your ap classes

[native swallow]

Oh I'm homeschooled

[untold sorrel]

Same rio!! x) I forgot children are here lol

[rich delta]

are you gonna look into going to uni/college?

[native swallow]

^ Lmao actually I'd expect it to be mostly children

I'm a few years too young for full college, but I'll be taking some classes next year.

[rich delta]

rip

[untold sorrel]

Eh? x) why to expect mostly children here？adults play games too！

[native swallow]

That's true! Though I'm stereotyping too, because my parents never play video games, so I don't assume many others do either.

[rich delta]

a lot of the advice i know of is usually for people who are able to have a steady income, access their credit, have had or currently going through uni/college experience, and/or able to travel
sweats

am sorries

[native swallow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Np, I've taught myself everything I know, as I'm the only techie in the history of my family, so I'm prettyyyy much fine

[rich delta]

ay at least that's a start somewhere

though uh
unsure as to how it works though but uh
i think you have to be 18 years and up to use kickstarter/crowdfunders/do anything with money over the internet when it's big like that

[native swallow]

Yep and my older bro was willing to sign stuff

[rich delta]

like even paypal requires you to be 18

unsure how that exactly works but i hope it does for you

[native swallow]

xP The important thing is, I can't be arrested for lying on a federal form And even if I was, I'm too young for Federal Prison SO

[rich delta]

that's why they made juvie //patpats

[native swallow]

😅

true

[rich delta]

[native swallow]

I think the police man around here would be too lazy to enact the arrest anyway, sooooo

[rich delta]

irs aren't tho

[native swallow]

Silently hides under table

[rich delta]

my advice i think that would be the extent of it would be just study your field at the moment and then try to enter it once you have your wits about you fully
like funding, networking, connections, etc
might take a while, hell might even take years, might be in just the few months depending on how hard you work on it, but hey, it's good that you have a dream at least

keep at it and it won't be a dream anymore
it'll be a nightmare ouo

[native swallow]

Lmao, well actually I have five years of experience

[rich delta]

of coding
but has that been freelancing experience, or just wittling away at programs on your own time

because i can say that i've been an artist for 22 years, but in actuality, all people want to hear is how long i've been a professional artist

[native swallow]

That's been developing and producing games, working at marketing, pretty much every field of game development. I love to learn new things, so I've just worked at basically everything

Yeah technically I've never been a professional

because I've never been payed to do it

[rich delta]

that's where you can start imo
it helps with building connections, helps with building funding, and helps with networking, and helps with building a name for yourself
i mean it's not the route you have to go
but it's the one i'd choose

[native swallow]

Indeed, but again the issue is that I'm underaged to actually accept payment

[rich delta]

i thought your older bro was gonna sign for stuff

[native swallow]

That'd work for crowdfunding, and other umbrella funds, but for direct payment, it'd be preeeetty hard to conceal

*And illegal

[rich delta]

and it depends on your state's/country's age limits
just because the internet says 18 and up doesn't mean the country/state requires it so
shit i was getting paid for artwork and small shit when i was 6
and i mean $20 a piece
it depends on how you go about it

but i'm in america
and things work different in america from state to state

[echo mesa]

you got paid for art when you were 6?
wow
getting Earning The Dough early

[native swallow]

^

[echo mesa]

6 yr old me was a useless sprog who could barely manage stick figures lol

[rich delta]

lmao yeah i wanted to prove my mom wrong that i didn't have to go around charging .05 cents for a drawing of peoples' pets

[native swallow]

Lol, where I am I can't do work until 16, and even then only with parental consent until I'm 18

[rich delta]

ahhh in michigan it's 15 years of age with parent's consent, but it's limited to what they can do (so no going on ladders, no taking out trash for the business, etc.)

used to be 14 years of age

[native swallow]

I mean, I've already earned quite a bit from various projects, like a card game I designed and sold

[rich delta]

see! there you go

[native swallow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Which is pretty much the type of thing I currently do

[rich delta]

a hobby is just a hobby until you learn how to profit off of it

[native swallow]

Like I said, with the cash from the card game, I'm hiring an artist to do designs for the line of Apparel

[rich delta]

forums and boards is all i can think of until you get into the networking circle

just be careful with any online money shizz until you're 18
like super careful

[native swallow]

which will start a kickstarter, which will pay for the demo of the game, which will go on kickstarter, and hopefully some of the runover will help to pay for my college eventually (MIT isn't cheap)

Yeah when I was younger I tried using things like Inbox Dollars and crap, that didn't go well

I don't use that email anymore, needless to say

[rich delta]

ahhh i used to want to go to digipen institute of technology tbh when i was still into game design
is a pretty good institute, helped by nintendo and microsoft last i knew

[native swallow]

Oh that's cool

I'm a robotics wacko, so MIT is good

[rich delta]

v nice yo
it's good to have your sights set on something once you know it

[native swallow]

Yup. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I should get back to work.

[rich delta]

no probs, and good luck

[native swallow]

You too

[untold sorrel]

My lines...aren't thick enough :( weh

[devout bridge]

Way tf late but whoever said there wasn't consistent work for artists outside the shows is 100% not in industry lmao

[unreal stream]

Any of you ever get an idea for a drawing you're super excited about but are too tired to start?

[devout bridge]

All the time

I'm behind on all personal work for that reason

[unreal stream]

I haven't been this happy for an idea for a while. Just hope I can pull it off

Probably not but it's worth a shot.

I really need to stop putting myself down

[devout bridge]

you do

no offence, but hearing artists constantly belittle their work makes me not want to see it. if you don't have confidence in your work, or can't at least keep your negative opinions of it you yourself, then why should i waste my time looking at it?

you don't have to think your art is the greatest, but if you want people to see what you're doing and see any kind of value in it, you need to cut those comments short

[unreal stream]

That's completely true, but its hard to have a high opinion on my own work when I can still barely draw a head.

[native swallow]

Did you draw your pfp?

[echo mesa]

no ones saying 'Have a high opinion' just
Dont shit talk yourself ig

smetimes you just bring yourself further down by talking badly about yourself and your art

[devout bridge]

you dont need a high opinion, you just need to not be self deprecating

[unreal stream]

No I didn't, Retro.
And I'll try not to going forward. Tomorrow I'm gonna start off this idea - 100% focus on it. See where it takes me.

[devout bridge]

you're learning aren't you? isn't progress something to be excited about?

[native swallow]

Well, either way, I guarantee you your work is better than just about 80% of the population.

[devout bridge]

like i'm a published artist who still isn't 100% confident in my work! i doubt i'll ever be! but i've learnt that calling my work bad or putting it down just pushes any viewers or potential commissioners away because if i don't see value in my work, why should they?

[unreal stream]

I am improving, its just a slow slow process and even now, some things just haven't clicked.
I admire so many artists for what they do and I just want to be like them

Giving up has, interestingly, never once crossed my mind

[native swallow]

Hang on, I have this great double helix advancement pattern thing somewhere

[unreal stream]

I've seen the graph you're on about before

And its accurate

[devout bridge]

all the artists you admire drew a lot of garbage before they got to wherever they're at! you gotta make a lotta bad before you do good! it happens

but instead of focusing on what you can't do, start celebrating what you can and look to the things that frustrate you as a chance for growth

so you can't draw a head. good! now you get to learn anatomy and how to proportion bodies. find out a style of drawing doesn't work for you? excellent. find the rules of that style and break all of them until you find something that clicks

[unreal stream]

That's a good way of looking at it. Its just so much to remember and think about though. Perspective, angles of the face and so forth

[devout bridge]

that all comes with practice tho

you just gotta do the thing

[unreal stream]

Like I'll watch all these tutorials where artists do step by step guides on stuff and then later, they'll do that same body part again with no construction. Its both impressive and a little disheartning

But you're right, I'll try and be more positive

Moaning isn't going to magically make me better at art

I'd be the best damn artist if it did otherwise.

[low bronze]

Hi! Does anyone know how to use photoFiltre? I use it to make simple modifications on mods and usually the brush tool is exactly the same size as a pixel, but today when I opened PhotoFiltre the size is completely different!

And obviously I don't know how to make the size return to that of a pixel...

[native swallow]

You could use Piskelapp.com, it's gr8

[low bronze]

Okay, I'll try. Thank you! 😄

It may be better than PhotoFiltre.

[neat iris]

So I decided to scrap the Drabble I had been writing for the past week in favor of a Drabble I wrote yesterday.

The second Drabble I wrote under...interesting circumstances and I got way further in it than the first one.

[sullen drum]

I'm actually back at drawing

[sullen drum]

Actual fixed version

[empty ocean]

going to draw cutaway on this , time to suffer

[stable elbow]

[sullen drum]

Drawing a bunny was super fun, and I enjoyed every moment of it

[lusty hull]

aww, that's a good bunny

[mighty bronze]

Where have you been Koog,is been so long,nice drawing

[sullen drum]

Omg Smookieeeee!! It's been a while!!

Uni managed to take off a lot of my free time

[ebon briar]

ok ok i dont remember if i mentione dthis here but if I did like

merch 'bundles' where you got a pin+sticker of whichever bachelor/ette, plus some smaller pins of their favourite items

i.e you get an elliott bundle and its like
1 x 1 3/4" pin of elliott
1 x 3" elliott sticker
1 x 3/4" pomegranate pin
1 x 3/4" lobster pin
1 x 3/4" duck feather pin

something like that

for 10 bucks

[thin dagger]

that looks great cup!! could totally see that as an emote

and oo

that sounds like such an interessting idea

[ebon briar]

also ^^^ gosh i love toon link,,

would people be interested in something like that?

[thin dagger]

i personally would be interested!

it sounds like a cute idea

[ebon briar]

👍

[untold sorrel]

is the bundles for zine or just in general?

also, i wonder if people would buy stickers of chibis x0

[ebon briar]

In general!

I'd be selling these at like conventions

Though I guess I could offer them as an incentive for the zine

[untold sorrel]

oh! i see i see x) just curious!

[devout bridge]

you should def up the price tho if ur doing bundles

[ebon briar]

Yep.

I normally do 4$ each 3 for 10$ when it comes to stickers/pins

but I feel like ehhh

1 sticker 1 pin = 8$

plus 3 3/4" pins which are cheap as shit to produce compared to 1.75" pins**

BUT I will say that I do want them to be the same price as my yoshi bundles?

Yoshi bundles are 1 large pin, 3 small pins, 1 large sticker, and 2 small stickers for 15$

I'm not sure what I can add to justify the price bump

[hexed rapids]

Tax

[ebon briar]

And also what about characters like Alex who only have two loves?

cause if each of the tiny pin is supposed to be a fav

[devout bridge]

his pubby

or his sportsball

[ebon briar]

ooo true true

sporbts

[untold sorrel]

gridbawl

morris do you mind me asking, how do you get pin badges done?

[ebon briar]

In terms of getting them physically made?

@untold sorrel

[untold sorrel]

yeah!

[ebon briar]

oh!! I own a pin press but that's just because I knew I was going to get a LOT of use out of it. They're a costly initial investment. Mine was I think... 400CAD not including a graphic cutter

There's also some companies local to me that you can upload your artwork to and they'll make the pins for you if you aren't ready for a pin press yet

[untold sorrel]

oh wow!

maybe, i should invest in one, hand them out at conventions to get myself known x)

[ebon briar]

Maybe!

The one I use is for 1.75" pins

For the 3/4" buttons I'm going to have to go through a friend to get them made as I don't feel like I'm in the proper place financially to get ANOTHER pin press

[untold sorrel]

oooh i see i see x) have you seen, heart shaped pins?

[ebon briar]

There are yep!

I haven't personally seen them but they do exist

[untold sorrel]

oh cool!!

[ebon briar]

Can we discuss cosplay stuff in here?

[thin dagger]

yep!!

[ebon briar]

yeehaw

i want to cosplay,,,,,,,,, one of the sdv guys but ive got no clue who?

[thorn pulsar]

Morris

the only possible answer is Morris

[thin dagger]

fdsjkds i was just about to say

[ebon briar]

im like... smol boy uwu

I WOULD do morris but the suit

the fucking suit

would be so expensive

[thorn pulsar]

so is Morris wtf you talking about. he's gnome sized

I mean

not necessarily

like, expensive compared to normal clothes

but likely not too bad

especially if you can fit into youth suits

[thin dagger]

well if you go buy a suit yes, they do tend to be expensive tbh but if it's possible, you could make one with cheaper materials?

[ebon briar]

I can probably make one but it'd be out of cheaper materials for sure

[thin dagger]

altho im not very knowledgeable about cosplay so idk

yeah

i think that's best but it would depend on you

[ebon briar]

let me hop onto cosplaytutorial.com for advice :^)

god i havent cosplayed in forever

[thin dagger]

👍

i wanted to get into it back in middle school / high school but i never did

[ebon briar]

theres nothing on suits

[thin dagger]

hmmmm

[elfin spire]

Hello everybody

[thin dagger]

hiya!

[elfin spire]

What you guys talking about ?

[thin dagger]

we're talkin about cosplay rn!

[elfin spire]

Cool

I saw the paintings on the other chanel you guys are very good

[thin dagger]

i do agree that everyone has really great arts!!!

i havent done anything art related in awhile and i miss it so much

[elfin spire]

I am very bad doing anything that is related to art

[ebon briar]

god i forgot like 95% of wigs are meant for long anime hair

[elfin spire]

I can just draw stickmans

[thin dagger]

awww i mean everyone doesnt start out really good!! it takes a lot of practice

[elfin spire]

I guess i should practice more

[thin dagger]

cant wait to see stuff from you!

[elfin spire]

Don't say that you will regret

[thin dagger]

aww of course not! i enjoy seeing everyone's art

[elfin spire]

How many time of practice takes to do some good paintings ?

[thin dagger]

well there isnt an exact number. it's different for everyone, so i cant really say

and even then, people improve all the time so and someone else's "good" might be entirely different from another person

[elfin spire]

For how long you been practicing ?

[thin dagger]

i think it's good to not focus on numbers or when you'll be good but rather on if youre enjoying yourself and the process!

well

i think ive been drawing since i was little but i started seriously practicing in high school

so that would be around 5 years ago?

or maybe even less since it feels kinda on and off for me

[elfin spire]

Thank you for the hint

[thin dagger]

no problem!

[elfin spire]

What would you say about stardew valley and you experience playing it ?

[thin dagger]

hmm in general i think it's a great game! it was one of my first farming games and i thoroughly enjoyed it. in terms of art i think it definitely helped me a lot, especially after coming to this community discord. everyone is very friendly here and they are very polite with constructive criticism. it's definitely a very positive community that helped me out with my art a lot

i also picked up some pixel art bc of stardew which was fun trying!!

[elfin spire]

I agree with you

Stardew valleyvis very good cause you can chose what you will do to make money chose your tipe of farm that really gives the player options to chose what they want

Thay what makes statdew valley so good

[thin dagger]

those are very good points!

[elfin spire]

I am drawing something hope it be good

[thin dagger]

cant wait to see it!

[elfin spire]

You have to know that i tryed my best

[thin dagger]

of course! i understand

[elfin spire]

Here it goes

It was supose to be this

[thin dagger]

that looks cute cup!

and ooo

i

[hexed rapids]

Thanks catto!

[thin dagger]

immediately recognized it as rick haha

[hexed rapids]

Should I put it in Creative?

(Also I thought that was sonic the hedgehog at first, victor)

[thin dagger]

yeah, go for it!!

[elfin spire]

@hexed rapids i am saying that i am not good drawing

[hexed rapids]

All you need is a little practise!

[elfin spire]

There is a hint to make it more beutiful ?

[hexed rapids]

You just need to work on it

[elfin spire]

Ok

Your painting is very good

I like how you make he expresion of bored

@hexed rapids how many time you took to draw it ?

[hexed rapids]

I drew it twice, once was a rough draft with just the lines, and the second time I smoothed the lines over and coloured it in

This was the rough draft

[elfin spire]

The color makes a big diference

[hexed rapids]

Thanks

[elfin spire]

You think you can draw abgail ?

[hexed rapids]

I might be able to draw her. I’ve only tried once before.

[elfin spire]

It worked ?

[hexed rapids]

I didn’t finish it

Also this is my first time doing something that’s not on paper

[elfin spire]

It's very good for a first time

My first time drawing on pc was very bad

[hexed rapids]

This is one of the first things i put real effort into

It doesn’t look that good though

[elfin spire]

That one is good too

[hexed rapids]

Not with that giraffe neck

[elfin spire]

At least is better than the one i do

[sullen drum]

It's coming along and I like it!

[thin dagger]

aww that looks great koog!!

[tidal nova]

@elfin spire i suggest you should learn to draw straight lines and circles. Take some time to learn to draw basic shapes

Your drawings got potential but they lack accuracy, even using that grid. You're gonna get better in no time with practice!

[elfin spire]

I will sleep good night

[mild kindle]

ahhh kinda looks nicee!!

Nose anatomy practice

U can tell me where to fix it

:)

[tender onyx]

you're fine with criticism?

[mild kindle]

Yes

I really want criticism uwu

[tender onyx]

ok so i think it's very wobbly in a way?

the lines arent straight

and your values doesn't really work it's very washed out

also the nostrils are off to one is larger than the other

istebrak has a bunch of tutorials on noses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXsfHBHMZQ

[azure night]

Critique Hour! How to Paint a Nose! Geometry, anatomy and form! [ 32,772 views | 4.94 rating w/ 1,292 likes (15 dislikes) | Duration: 1h32m39s | Uploaded: 2017-02-16 by Istebrak ]

[mild kindle]

ahhh I see

TYVM!!

[tender onyx]

but you got the overall shape of a nose right which is good!

[mild kindle]

ahhh tysmmm

[empty ocean]

process oof

[tender onyx]

damn 👍

[patent zinc]

do you uhh do cad?

[pastel iris]

wip so far

[serene radish]

omg cute!

[empty ocean]

@patent zinc me ? no

[lone mountain]

i keep self projecting myself onto one of my character while im trying to write him and its so difficult

[empty ocean]

i actually do the same when i try to create a char

or any type of story , cried myself just for the roleplay sometime

😹