#creative-discussion
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no critiques please my art is perfect
Ugh I need to write the next chapter of my fanfic
I’m bout to end this mans whole career
pls review i only accept positive comments
Ugh I need to right a chapter on my book
What a lovely oc
Thx thx
Pam send me ur ocs and I’ll draw them TwT
Beef
I CRY
I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE HIM SO BUFF
he t h i c c
HE'S NOT THAT BARA
give me the loot
uhhh i got some bad news
hes bara
It's ok we all could use some beef
legit though they messed up the rubric paper and it says. “write a chapter on each page with your notes” When it meant write a page on each chapter with your notes
he b e n c h p r e s s e s me
N O

i braid his hair
he's part of the webcomic about an inventor falling in love with his own robot and what it means to be human all while it's the aniversarry of him and his estranged brother's mothers death
I actually can’t have beef

Titty
titty
lol fable
nippy
also looks so good
bloop hoohoo we see his nip nop
big foot 😩
Nipple nopple
u know that weird kink people have with getting squished by a giant foot
oh my god
omg my brother went swimming a lake and a fish nipped his nipple
hot
GOD
don't u bring yo kinks here lmaooo
three cats in a row...
💖💖💖💖💖😭😭😭👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
THEY AINT MINE
Pan contributes good art to my Alex album
I know yall art is super good
HERE'S THE ROBOT BTW
Y
DLKSJFDJ
⌛
ack I gotta go see ya
also pan: charging port
KLDFJSSDF
i actually changed that part of his design it's now on the bakc of his neck BUT
we're already kin Pan. we have hetalia connection. we are bound forever. there is no escape
KFJDSFJ
NO
I only kin Pan when I need Alex art for my A L B U M
oh gode what have i started
dskljfd what got deleted
Who's skulling messages
hhhhhh
you cant fool these eyes
SMOOCHING!!! WEE WOO WEE WOO POLICE
wait something was deleted??
Smoosh
WEE WOO WEE WOO
🚔
soft elliot
i can sketch too one second
THAT
vinnagrette
OH
ve ~ doitsu (=ヮ=)೨
Adorable
Ruh roh same face
i cant control my talent hnngh
ya i bet u are.. its ok one day u will be as skilled as me
me: im not into stupid hetalia anymore
also me but lowkey: arthur kirkland is my forever stan
yall said bara
👀
titties
wa9it i didn;t mean to sne dthatr
my boy
the beef
Faceclaim?
like
DID SOMEBODY SAY MORE JACKSON
JACKSON
I NEED TO MAKE A JACKSON ALBUM
i... kiss him
mwah
i dont really have face claims
My soft son....
What r face claims
i have 1
hit or miss i guess they never miss huh u got a cute oc i bet he never kissed ya (mwah)
"my OC would look like this irl"
Wait Pam what’s that ocs name?
all my ocs look like chris evans
The boi
Sven, but people call him slacks (childhood nickname)
THIS IS HIS FACECLAIM
i cant draw so i just write a lot
IS IT BLUE DIAMO-
Now I do do voiceclaims
i write a lot about cephon (my oc)
witchy boy
Omg 😭😭😭👏🏻👏🏻
👀 oh worm?
voice claims 
worm
Oh?
idk what he would sound like tho 😭
@lament turtle hey do you mind if I use that Jackson pic you made on my toyhouse? I'll credit you appropriately!
me: i am adult. i am college woman. i am mature
also me: (12 am, playing LLSIF)
I just want to add it as a reference pic!
my character tetsuo is basically the embodiment of how much i love shin and i never did it on purpose, i was like, way out of my dbz rave when i made him. but lord i think he sounds very similar to shin, maybe a bit deeper
Go ahead fable ^_^
do you guys have character types
i love tetsuo and his design is amazing
Thanks Blue!
i dont have face claims but like certain vibes from a picture
as in characters you tend to draw/write a lot
oh, i also uh, did a small storyboard thing becuase i wanna animate but i'm bad. content of a scene is they are arguing near a cliff
all of my ocs have dumb binch energy
i often see a pattern with the ocs i write
big buff boys lmao
Actually I have books I’m writing
or THICC GORLS
i love mean/apathetic boys too much
It’s a passion project with my friends
we already have a book done but
There’s 10 books...
i have too many dramatic dmab nb ocs? i didnt realise until not too long ago
i like all different types of characters but i would say my most common types are very proper/nice man and very rough/mean girl
all my ocs have this energy
but. i wouldn't date a mean boy. do you see my problem
i like making characters that are... two-faced? as in they act nice but are petty assholes
i have way too many loner OCs
My most common are pretty crazy ocs
even tho i'm SUPER EXTROVERTED IRL
i have too many ranges of characters
LIKE HYPER EXTROVERT
yeah it's kinda hard to really pin down for me too
so idk why i have so many introvert loner ocs
im just a sausage fest how about that
My most common type are basically "chaotic dumbass"
i have a lot but my favorites tend to be that type
Jackson is a strange turn away from my usual OC
kjhgfd
everyone has a bias
He's pretty together overall
mine is DICK
i'd say i have a range of body types but more often than not they're gonna be thicc
jkjk
LMAO
👀
i love writing guys idk why.... i dont think i have any female ocs for some reason
my favorite flavor of popsicle
my ocs are always thicc
i used to have more female ocs but now i'm kinda half and half
Ohh I have This weird trend with my female ocs
thicc
THEYRE ALWAYS TALL THICC GODDESSES
t h i c c
same
i love interacting with girl ocs but i cant own them
if they aren't thicc then what are they
i have way more guy/dmab ocs cause im gay af
unless theyre like minor characters
@lone mountain same?
i need more girls but theyre so hard to draw lmao
what's dmab?
designated male at birth
ye
ohh
very pretty
slimthicc
omgggggggg
aw pretty
i range from stick boys to beef boys
I give all my characters really long nails lmaoooo
Jev....so valid
i have some inbetween
im gonne go dumpmy lolita dress refs in sewers
I don't do chunky and that's about it body wise
Mostly because I don't typically write for characters that really have the option to be chunky
ALDNFKSDNJFKDSN CALAVERA
MUERTOS AESTHETIC
YES YES YES
same fabe
😩
Me gusta yknow yknow
Calavera aesthetic is my shit
SDFKJDSF THAT IS SO COOL
I do a lot of calavera design
Omg so nice~
don't call your art poopy please
awww it's cool fable
that is absolutely gorgeous. Dia del muertos duskull is amazing
I have some really old art and id like to get critique on it because I really liked how it came out but it needs a lot of improvement
i just did a quick doodle of my first oc and uh
she's a bitch and i love her
just gonna say the glasses seem a little off for that pencil drawing
I just can’t
That's what I got
No scrunchie doeeee
heather???
Lolllll
like
Like
i used to be obsessed with total drama island for some stupid reason
The musical voice for JD is a voiceclaim for an oc of mine
that heather?
something I learned about Canadian tv like TDI
It’s a musical and was a movie back in the 80s
ohh ok
they get made cause canadian law reqeuires a certain amount of shows on canadian airwaves to be made in canada
honestly the only musicals i know are hamilton and RENT
Anyways I put up the old drawing
ooh rreally? even i didn't know that
ever hear of Le Miserable?
oh yeah whoops here lemme help
Anyone like RPDR?
oh ye
what's RPDR?
Rupauls Drag Race
ooooh
Surprised those are the only two you know since Heathers is part of the big musical trifecta :U
i'm a musical normie heck
I don’t know many musicals
Mostly just main stream tbh lol
idk how to help ah
I'm wondering if anyone will ever actually catch the Mean Girls musical references in Right Finger
I just got a lot of weird looks from art friends since it’s so different from my normal art style
I just really want to break out of the same face and just doing the stuff that works and do really different stuff
oh, isn't west side story a musical?
Yep
I have an art friend who often tries to “copy” my art style
He has even said those words to me lol
yall imma cry but im back
Don’t cry
best way to avoid same face imo is to just draw from life and pictures of real people
we all got a comfort zone, helps to look at irl and get out of it soe
some
I’m gonna be half blind til April 2nd but until then coloring and seeing will not be the same
i'm sorry beth, i hope for the best
awww :(
I have a mild colorblindess so I know how you feel I think ;-;
I think I’m gonna get some rest guys gn
Coloring is HARD
this is why contacts are a pain in the arse
yeah that’s why most of the time when I color there’s barely any green
cause idk how it would look
that's a shame to hear, but atleast it won't be permanent
I want Jackson's summer hair to have green in it and I'm terrified of fucking up that red/green contrast
just 8 days away man
Why no one say gn ;~;
gn
yeah but like meh
keep posting art
oh Night Blueberry!

Goodnight!
probably not
i just got in the mood to belt out a song from hamilton becuase of this and uh, that counts as art right??
oo hammy is such a great musical
music is art
general music convo probably better for off topic channels
rip
Goodnight!✌︎('ω'✌︎ )
(´・_・`)
my microphone sucks anyways hh
i mean, you can share your music in here, be sure to link tho if it's lyrics etc
Awawa i understand cries!
Uwa sogoi 
IKEMEN W
oh, i just did a quick accapella of a hamilton song lol
OHH MY GOSSHH
MY
TWO FAVE BOYS
i love this artist so much fdghkfd
hairy leg....😔
hairy leg 👀
omg the art they did for key is so cute
w i wish I could draw elliot hair better...(´・ω・`)
would it be frowned upon if i put the twitter for that art for keychain?
cause it's someone else's art meant for an artist
honestly yeah kinda
that's why i asked
you can contact them and ask if it's ok tho
i think key posted it here too
You could ask Keychain 😛
IKR
@devout stream mind if i post that art of your character made by stv_tara?
i think it depends what you're asking battle
u can’t do that it’s sniff it’s not
i'd just be sharing the twitter link
this artist 😩 👌
like you guys are doing now
also imma send the sample of me singing burn from hamilton cause why not y'all got me in the mood sorryyyyyy
yes it's fine to do that, i do think it's courteous to ask key too though
feel free to ignore me lol
It would be so great if eliott could stop being PERFECT
He can literally say “oh thank you” and I will DIE
HONESTLY
SHEn
This server is slowly killing me
my boy shame
i live for sebastian's owo
moe sleeves seb 
shane what is thou doin
Shane why
@frozen plaza lol you dont need my permission, its on her public twitter
his best
Eliot IM STILL NOT OVER HE YUTAKA
well it was art meant for you, so i figured i'd ask
IM NEVER GOING TO BE OVER IT
itS SO FUCKING CUTEW
HONESTLY SAME
did u ever see my uh
they drew*
Abigail T_T
tara is great, i love her
NO
do they speak english?
BUT IM WORRIED
she does not
it was a situation
I’m still worried
damn ill have to hire you as my commissioner translator jkjk
all of my interactions have been through google translate hahaha
ohhh
Sebas kawaii。。。
im glad it worked OMG
question, do artists like you guys talk to each other outside of the discord? Are there like places artists conglomerate to communicate and maybe exchange art?
eh
yeah it gets the job done mostly. but she doesnt take commissions
im too afraid of accidently saying something bad in translate
owo
Elliott is a twink
tumblr and twitter?
SAIJDSFIOJDD T W I N K
I mostly only talk to people here
I wonder where Kyle is
I have tumblr and twitter and junk but it isn't really cohesive to talking
she drew that for me cuz we've been following each other for a long time and shes just rly nice
that's sweet
ohhhok i see
heres a handy guide
i love the way she drew my farmer 
omg thank you
so good
I have issues with approaching artists with offers of friendship haha
I need open rooms like this to comm with people
usually i give the ol' ”好き
”
as someone who has had it done to them multiple times, no one is particularly interested in "offers of friendship" it has to happen naturally. we can tell when ppl are trying to force it
when i say "we" i just mean artists
haha
Every artist should be happy and spend time together ^w^
I’m pretty happy that I’m able to start convos with people face to face when it comes to art
dats fair i get that
Im pretty friendly for friends!lets talk about kawaii sebas and sam and cool elliots 
At least through mediums like the tweeter and tumblr
Sometimes u have to just say hi and ask about there art :3
I really understand the feeling of approaching artists being bad. I always obsess thinking I may have made a bad impression
i don't really go out of my way too much, i've made artist friends here pretty much
i have some mutuals on tumblr but i only ever really talk to them here if that ends up being the case
This is the place where I have the most artist friends tbh
i don't mind it though i like the acquaintanceship
At least I consider y'all friends 😛
yeeee
same、this server is the friendliest ive been in
r/pokemon's server artist community isn't very consistent
yea yall are pretty friendly
Yeah yeah!!
whomst
omg wtf
this is so annoying.
tbh, the artist community here is 99% the reason i love the server. I got introduced to the art of people i'd have never found
Oh God I've had people do that to me
the worst part is that twitter will sometimes show it to me anyway even though i have them muted
Not often but I have gotten that
see, that's what i'm terrified i'm gonna do when I message artists to ask them for links
when you get that ominous "hi"
I like how everyone is supporting of everyone!its not how others only the popular/skilled artists get all the attention
also, isn't it super disrespectful to address a person by their name when you don't know them?
or atleast in that context?
I love everyone here ^-^
i just make acquaintances cause people drop off of me cause i dont share that much in common
That's the advantage of chatrooms
Focus doesn't feel like its all on the "good" artists
People of all skill levels get attention/feedback
And those skill levels don't define who talks to who
I like this server a lot!
do you block those people?
I keep switching eng&jpn keyboards and i come back here and have to retype because i typed in the wrong language..... (´・ω・`)
that sounds super creepy
Code switching baby
i think the only people talking to me is people tryign to buy my ocs
bUY ocs???
Hell I don't get OC selling either
yeah
LOL
Adopts, the works
its a common thing
Thye just come up like
Can i buy your son???
idk
Like just cause you're a fan doesn't make them your friend
yeah
Peko summed my feelings up
Can I buy stardew valley
made me feel horrible
Wait
But like just make your own OCs fam
At the end of the day even if you bought something from someone, your interpretation of them would eventually just become another OC for you
And resemble nothing of the original
@ je v can i buy ur monkee i hav good favors
@j ade giv OC
@devout stream just wanna ask, I've never come across like creepy when i've messaged you right?
my monkei throw shit at u
i giv
not at all
ty jev
LOL
can't wait to misinterpret everything about them
naw it my the character i always draw sam with
It'll be like they were never yours
oh yeah this remins me
i use him out of sdv
gi v e me child
some general advice
for everyone especially if they're writing
say no if people you barely know ask if your character can be a cameo
BIG YES
omg
because then ur character will end up being someone's ex and have absolutely no personality
just wanna say that reminds me of some things i've seen on r choosing beggars
source: embarrassing mistake i made
gyhuofdh
I want to commission you、 my budget is 0 dollars、draw something for me pls
I SAW THAT POST
the person who wrote it wasn't a bad person but it was clearly just not something i should've let him do and i asked him to change names and etc and he did since it literally wasn't anything remotely close to my character. AND SHE WASN'T A CAMEO
SHE WAS LIKE A BIG PART OF THE FANFIC
I used to write fanfics of mine and a bunch of friends' OCs together on a team
Not good enough. NEXT!
IT WAS ACTUALLY RIDICULOUS
I'll pay you with exposure
It was....
my budget is 1 potato
Yikes
"you should be paying me for your oc appearing in this"
dude i just learned about some guy
OC had a crush on mine
What
getting commissions of him with random underage ocs of people he stole them from
Do I just like
its awful
i think i was lulled into false security because i read cute fics that had some farmers as cameos and it was harmless, brief, and done with permission and it was fine
yea
so awful
Not understand mainstream OC culture
those poor owners
NANI
I just straight up do not understand mainstream OC culture lol
and it was apart of a project of mine :|
I am HYPER protective of my kids
What’s mainstream now a days?
set story and whatnot
U guys wanna know my pet peeve about ocs
THROWING A DAMN HOODIE ON IT WHEN U HAVE NO OTHER DAMN IDEAS
well i say "someone you barely know" since i rp with my best friend for example she can do w/e she wants with my characters since i trust her a lot
Like I've had almost all of my OCs for 5+ years in some form
lol thats me
but if you don't have that kind of really solid trust, don't do it
IM SO TIRED OF SEEING FUCKING HOODIES
🤷
l-leave me alone blue
@lament turtle STOP CALLING ME OUT
LMAOOOOOOO
im being attacked
fiction mimics real life
i draw abby in hoodies................its something im into U_U
Modern AU of my OCs
H-hoodie????
i can't say i understand what y'all mean by mainstream oc culture
HOODIE????
I’m not saying hoodies are bad I’m just saying I think that it’s kind of lazy when u just throw it on anyone
i dont understand that part either, jade
Fableleeee
ocs are ocs
my internet is being bad
By mainstream OC culture I mean people who actually interact with each other via OCs
A lot of my ocs are mixed、deaf、or something else since im too
can i ask if masks are considered a cool idea?
i missed whats happened
i like hoodies but i have a gigantic pet peeve and it's when a big loose hoodie has someone's belly button exposed because it's "sexy" i think it looks dumb and i'm not into it sorry
so roleplaying?
theyre fine
masks are cool?
Masks are actually pretty cool
Yeah I guess it's more that online rp community
masks are awesome
someone catch me up cause im lost
I can't do non DnD rp lol
masks are COOL!!
Masks are valid
We are talking about oc originality and mainstream stuff
i love oc rp rip
we're just talking about ocs and people taking/talking to other ocs
i want a farmer who wears a kitsune mask
o
I've never really tried serious OC rp tho tbh
i just do casual head canoning with people
i need to do more oc interactions but im too shy to throw me kids at people
i have some OCs but i neglect them so i can draw my 2000th abigail
i wouldn't have considered that mainstream oc culture i guess but i don't pay attention too much
That mod probably already exists for a kitsune mask
I'm tempted to try casual rp stuff with Jackson but like
(´・ω・`)
same feeb
yells
Nerves......
I rp!but its with a friend of 3 years、and i trust them a lot
yeah rping is only easy with people you know honestly
i used to rp but they turned out to be a buttnug
its really difficult with strangers for me and idk how other people do it
i do dnd though! its fun
rp takes a lot for me to get into because i make a whole world when i do it
and i don't have the mental capacity to have so many worlds
so i just rp with my best frien
i had someone try to make an oc for me and pressure me about said character to interact with theirs
but i just took him and use him with one of my mains
omg LMao
wholesome passive aggressiveness
when i say make tho they would try to control my character and their traits
and it was ugh
Wouldn’t it be cute if we all rped on a farm and made ocs as other people and stuff lol
ew gross
well if they gifted the character to u then that's urs now
@lament turtle kawaii
no i made him in both designs personality
^_^
a rp multiplayer farm。。。。
oh i see i misread then
Ew forcing OCs on people
pls ur fine
Ew not listening to other rp players
yeah they wanted to use him to make a fusion
Ew being a buttmunch
ive def begged people to join rps with me but its never been a forced thing ._.
but they like didnt like any of my ideas
a fusion???
i just wanted artie to have friends 😭
Dragon Ball Z
rping is all about them compromises, if they can't handle input they gotta just make their own story
YOSHAAA
omfg
exactly
We should all rp sometime maybe it will be fun lol
i should really draw hoshi more, i haven't drawn her or shin in a while
Like a stardew valley rp
yoSHAA
rp is all about CONSENT CONSENT CONSENT
please draw her
YO シャアああああ
it's a cute idea blue but i'll pass, i'm really past my rp prime
awww jev pls
ok i will try
monkey miss her most importantly
consent very important i agree fable
i was tempted to draw them as a late bday pres maybe i will again but i cannot promise
i'd love to draw them tho
I have a few SDV ocs...
i really need to finish the stupid "is this a pigeon" meme i did because i still love it
I've established 2 SDV OCs via Right Finger. Only Jackson has art done though
Olivia needs art still :p
can i make a request that you draw hoshi mimicking the grin shin makes in his first appearance
that is all...
right finger?
before i sleep i leave tiny elliott from a korean sdv fanartist
But it's making progress and I'm proud of it
smol
thats adorable
also night night folkes
Night y’all
me love monkeys
isn't mamoru tuxedo mask from sailor moon?
Love monkey is just Alex btw
or were you referring to someone or something else?
My oc name is mamoru!
oh
they still gotta read as buildings, i just cant think of what kinda toon buildings to draw
hexagon roof?
:0 i...dont know how to do that. do you have any examples??
CUTE
topaz spice coffee?
she might
ive never had it so its hard for me to say
she DEFINITELY likes cold coffee in general though

awww ye
Ohhh yeah the art is really good! Im very impressed :0
i backward searched by db fancharacter and it recognizes it as db and idk why i feel so good about it
idek why it registered tho cause i dont mimic the art style whatsoever
I always thought artstyle mimicking is really, really hard but it has advantage
when I tried to mimic some tetsuya nomura's art, it didn't end up well but I took my failure as my new artstyle xD
im able to somewhat mimic aspects of artstyles but not to where its recognizable
its so difficult
i think the only art style i was ever able to mimic perfectly was mlp cause that shit was easy
I can't say much about my little pony, since I've never tried it xD
but I'd agree, it's probably not hard
its perfect!
ok i cant find good enough examples rn cold
but so far certain aspects ive just picked up into my normal style is def the pecs from dbz
i also picked up some weird ass way of drawing eyes from another anime
I don't mean about image example, just some few descriptions are good, but if you don't have any it's okay xD
oh please jev, you're not the only one
I'd say my art is kinda 70% FF7 before crisis, 20% danganronpa and 10% of my own creativity lol
cute doodle btw key 
@devout stream i literally can’t with your art. its so goooodddd
key's art is superb as ever!
and any junimos on atm? just informing that leah bot missed smth to be pinned
Not missed. Just did a oopsie.
oopsie, got it, sorry if 'missed' sounds too mean xD
to be exact it's recent clownkind's art
the gotoro traditional clothes
I've somehow made the 3P ship of Sebastian, Sam, and my farmer (mamoru)
Sebastian is top! Sam is the mix and mamoru is the bottom! w
i'm not quite sure how to explain this because it's not quite an au, but
i was thinking about drawing some of the older characters in the valley as when they were younger
like robin, demetrius, jodi, kent etc all become young adults
and people who aren't in sdv when the player arrives like their parents or robin's prev husband (as a jerk boyfriend or something) would be there
so basically like
the generation before
maybe when the player's parents were young? and player's grandpa is working on the farm but he's still older
not as old as he is in sdv but getting up there
That could be really interesting to see!
that would be awesome to see
young wizard 
That would be super cute
sip
young wizard..............
also on the very oooold previous topic about adoppts
a really basic design i made but really liked has already went through like
4 owners
i wish someone would just stick with him and give him a home 
Poor boy
Someone save him
I get too attached to literally every character I write I could never make an adopt
usually i do too but this guy sat in my storage for so long and i was desperate for money
needless to say i learned my lesson
altho i wont be surprised if i get in a tight spot again
and end up selling
Selling your children out of desperation for a quick buck, for SHAME
😰
/s
Newb question- what is an adopt?
ocs that people sell are called adopts
I just sit here appreciating all the precious children that get pumped out. I'm like that old grandma who oodles over the grandkids every time they come over. 
Think like "adopt this puppy to a good home"
Except it is a character?
I wanna do that but with designs I won't use
I've decided I need to stop trying to tell people what my OCs' personalities are before I actually sit down to write a story for them, because they never seem to actually match what winds up happening
OH MOOD
YO SAME FABLE
Jackson was supposed to be a little nervous but fairly put together
Mine are always smart asses until I start writing and then they turn into good noodles cause being mean is hard 😭
Now he has anxiety
honestly tho telling people about their personalities helps in the development process too
"You fucked up a perfectly good boy you did. Look at him, he's got anxiety"
The only one whos stayed consistent is Relle cause they're a dramatic turd
my monkey started out as a lazy ass who watched tv all day
now he's fucking swole and just fights people
Lmao
development is an amazing thing
But look at it another way Fable, it can also make them more relatable as well. A challenge for them to overcome. You can go into things like coping mechanisms and such.
Oh I know! I'm actually excited for this change
Wait no Relle was meant to be anxious and scared of getting hurt. They're just a binch now
I was wrong
It really works alongside the main messages of my fic and with the two conflicts
(It's a two parter)
Jev. Is your monkey Bakugo by any chance? Asking for a friend.
bakugo?

In fact I've actually started Jackson at a point where he has coping mechanisms and is trying to put them into action. One of the things I want to show is that despite having tools to help you still won't fix the issue right away
what he said ^
Don't let Ary hear you say that
but Bakugo is still nice (with an explosive personality tho)
Ye
He's an ass but he still has a level of respect for others
He's growing up, just slowly
Like a real people
^
🤷
Character writing is hard but rewarding
true
I just need to be better about not hyper focusing on one OC at a time 
Me: Has an entire OC world
Also me: Hnnng...new OC.....
I haven't even updated my designs for my oldest OCs 
tfw the best ref of one of my favorite OCs is like 3 years old



