#creative-discussion
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You can't sort a ything
it is more of concept design server tho
i'm not a very competitive art person though. i just. am not competitive or so serious about art that i want extreme feedback
im in the same server :O
Epichroma is more of Portrait and painting server
im sorry on behalf of all slow and erratically posting authors
im not competitive but i just have this horrible feeling that i will release a game and it will be a fart in the wind because nobody knows about it lol
game dev is very different from traditional app dev
i highly recommend you dont take feedback when you start tho , it is better to draw and learn by yourself for at least 1 or 2 years
I like this servers art channel alot though sometimes I feel ignored but I think that's a normal happenstance
well interacting with others helps a lot i think
if it makes you feel better i loved the ned art ive seen @fading hawk
I am not competitive in art as well
Thanks Jacob that's very sweet of you
but i do competitive in hardworking
seeing people do stuff make me want to draw
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I used to be very competitive but I drew so much I ended up seriously hurting my drawing hand so don't do what I did kids
Art is hard, no matter what kind it is
also harsh comment can hurt your feeling but they pin point the problem to extreme , if you can sallow the pain and follow the advice it is a win-win
I feel bad sometimes cause idk what to say about a lot of visual art cause it's not my specialty
i think it depends
sometimes harsh comments are helpful
but other times it's just someone being an asshole
I don't think you need to be harsh to get a point across tho
there were a few harsh comments i've received that have been helpful but other times it has been extremely nitpicking of someone who just doesn't like what i do rather than how i'm drawing
i probably wouldn't get along with anyone but i respect those who can work like that
I'm gonna go a while
i always try to be constructive
so i say something i like then say something that can be improved
hi im late
Well there are 2 type of harsh comment
1 is useful to pin point out most problem
second is just say it " You are bad at it so stop drawing "
Concrit is a learned skill, giving and receiving. I know there are all kinds of writers workshops and stuff irl and online. Idk if anything similar exists for art because usually you don't have "drafts" the same way as in writing
workshops can be very helpful
i've had a few in school
i mostly like them because we're all going to receive critique and we're all on some kind of shared level so it makes the critique itself a lot less intimidating
i have only gone harsh a few time
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i prefer just pin out of problem without insult the person but if they do not listen after so many tries i have to push it a bit
There's also ways to be harsh without being a dick and hurting feelings. The usual rule is pairing good and bad stuff like "I think the proportions are off but the shading and use of colour are excellent"
two bits of praise for every criticism
that part is mighty depend on the feedback giver
for some people everything you did is not good
i think it depends on the person, sometimes a person just reacts better to more constructive behavior. but if someone is trying to be professional and they're being a baby about it, then yeah, maybe they need to be rough or change professions
but usually they will say you did process so keep up
well i have seen a senpai comment
it is quite harsh
sometime insult your weakness as well
a what now
Different people and culture/fan/we groups have different t styles and rules too and it all kinda depends. Some people work better with different styles of critique or personalities
I only let certain people read and rip up my writing and two of them are my partners lol.
Where do you post most?
I know Tumblr culture tends to be praise over critique
well i gave up getting crit from other server
i ripped my art myself
and continue to expand and improve
honestly theres prob a subreddit for receiving/giving criticism
you probably won't get too much crit here but if you ask for it someone will probably bite
i get a ton of crit at school, im just here for a laff
this is my for funsies art time
yeah i dont ever give criticism unless someone states they want
I tend to err towards praise and highlight the positive unless invited. It could be the worst thing I've seen/read but I'll only say that tomyself or a like minded friend in private
classes can be good
phrase it to where they know i like/see what they're going for, but have an alternate way of going about it
same pigeon
(not that I've seen any bad art here!!)
i've definitely read some stuff i felt was really awful but i still try to construct it well
well would say i am the same , not everyone want feedback so if you say it they think you are trying to be superior
my professor always said to aim for 3's
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that it's impossible to fix everything that's wrong in one go, so it's good to point out the 3 most striking things
that could use improvement
I've returned poses
I've gotten plenty of crit but mostly from close friends
That's terrible
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That's not critical. That's just being a dick imo
And if someone did that on any cserver j run they'd be boored
Booted
I've been called muffin as a insult and I think that's the worst I've been called online
he has no experience or knowledge in my field , what he said afterward made no sense ( confirmed with my artist friends ) , he thought he is talking better than me and act proud
lollll
Irl though ppl are very harsh with me
so it turn out to be a comedy chat later on for me
Someone once told me that I like toes. It was a trip.
But yeah, it's important to look at where critique comes from
i dont think ive been called anything here? i did get some stuff shat on a few times, but thats kinda what i expect when i post school work on here :Y
I'm confident to say Things about writing because that's what I Do. Like, a painting or digital art?? I don't see all the little things people who work those mediums do
The best critique I've ever gotten was from my mom
the worst critique i got was
" give up drawing "
bleh
that was kinda flip me upside down
since i grew up on the internet i had a lot of harsh criticism as a semi-trolly 11 year old [since i was, 11, of course] and since then i've tried to always be more constructive
i was still in unstable stressing stage
I've gotten that too and I stopped drawing for a year it was like 8th grade
i guess for me my professor when i was in graphic design said i wouldn't last in the major
i changed it, not because he was right, but because i hated him so much and did not want to be stuck with him for another 2 years
That's not cool of them jadey I'm sorry
he was a pretentious asshole stuck in the 80s
he really hated anything that wasn't abstract art
worst critic is always yourself
There's only so much you can protray with abstract art
tru
but honestly most of the professors i've had except for 1 worshipped abstract art as god and if you liked drawing forms/figures then you were immediately looked down upon
I haaaaate profs like that oh god
and the 1 professor i really liked retired the next year so
i feel like i've complained enough about horse priest in here for y'all to know about him. but him. just. absolutely fuck that guy lmao
literally when i was in those classes only the people who couldn't draw for shit were the ones doing well
I had a writing one like that, kept making us read things written by "real writers writers" and it was all boring schlock. And he was syltuck in the paper era and just.... Bad
it was more of a social thing and a clique than people learning how to hone their craft well
it still makes me mad
but that's just the classes i was in, i doubt every art scene/major/etc. is like this
I've never been to college for art but the worse art teacher I had said teaching me was pointless because all I drew was comics at the time
That's good awful though, I'm sorry to hear it jadey
my college is more focused on teachers than artists so even if it has DECENT art stuff it definitely wasn't an art school
yeah i feel you feeb screw him
It sucks when any art program tries to crap on more "genre" and "popular" art forms like.
It's all frikken art
bruh i changed majors because of him. i'm no longer a contemporary painter lmao
I'm gonna go to a different channel cause y'all seem kinda in the zone with each other so later
And sci find or anime or comics or we can all be as valid as like William faulker and people who splatterpaint and stuff
and this is why art stays a hobby for me 
bye clown ๐๐ฝ
But when you get a good group who vibes together with a competent teach it's chefs kiss
YAAS
me, my squad, and our fave homeless professor ๐ญ ๐๐ฝ
we love her so much
I'm grateful that my college was a decent art school u.u My biggest issue was how much they push people to go to Blizzard (for the game kids) or Disney/Dreamworks (for the animation kids), and there was some... bias? I guess? towards the more outgoing students
oh we have that. disney, bliz, and universal for us though
smh yall and all these college stuff, i cant even enter design college
our studio kids are being shuffled off to chicago for grad school though
I uh. Actually dropped out of a 4 year and went to cc, and then haven't done paperwork to get my degree
Art schools can be pretty hit or miss, and a lot of it you can learn online now anyways
i saw slime
I got accepted into college once
All my fiber art is self taught, from the internet and messing around. Writing I've hldone like. classes in but I still learned a lot on my own from reading and doing
art school is...kind of a joke. i love what i'm doing, but they have you do a lot of things unrelated to your major. or the work would be good, but the prof forgets you're taking 12-14 other units and don't have time to do 40 drawings a week
i almost went to an art college and i'm glad i didn't in the end
i am getting a concept art class
But i never went because i didny have the money
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art school , well i have heard they teach plenty of stuff unrelated too
some school like Concept designer or CGMA would be a better choice if you want to focus into a single major area
i took an art class in college but one route was heavily based on fashion and textiles so i dropped out
Ooh that sounds so cool though
fashion is cool but iโm not rely interested
getting the right one is hard
someone i know went in for concept art based around video games but now they want to drop out rip
it was quite neat but most people in my class had done a textiles qualification beforehand and i hadnโt so i was already behind
I wish there was more on tactile art and stuff in schools. It sucks when Art is considered like, drawing painting and other 2d visual media, and then Preforming Arts, maybe sculpture if you're lucky
i still got a certificate for the one month i went in tho so . Hype
i am taking Artsoup , the teacher is FZD graduated student , most course i take will be Concept sketching , environment , character and lastly heavy Industry photobash
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there are also Illustration course but doesn't look like what i like so
is there any lewd course
I'm sorry, I can't take that seriously with that icon xD

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That's the best reaction gif I've seen so far
I'm fucking howling why is that so funny
"i see you've posted animation from your game. i have no interest in that, but have you considered throwing out whatever tools you use and using a plugin that i think is best?"
oof
sorry tonight is a bit of a rant night lol
nah u good
I suggest murdering that person
I hope this is good because I accidentally saved it over my Mario file and now I have to redraw him
i got hit with the 'i should watercolour rn' feels but i dont wanna drag out my supplies
no?? its 9 pm i'm not dragging out painting supplies
Feeb thanks so much for earlier about the creative cloud price changing. I just found out Iโve been charged $10 more than last month 
Oh God i forgot to cancel my Dev Core role Payment so i was charged with like 10 $ every month?money were flying on other shits too,i had to check my PayPal account and disabled all but discord wew
oh rip soy
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if ur jacob. and thats jacob. then whos flying the plane
Iโm having mixed feeling about continuing the subscription tho. I barely use creative cloud or adobe programs anymore and I keep paying $21 every month 
Ah wait you have it already
Just cancel it
Is for the best if you donut use it
Anymore
What? I have clipstudio. Iโm talking about adobe programs thatโs not for drawing in general.
Yes ik
Illustrator is great for making maps tho I no longer use it as often. I still need to use acrobat pro from time to time tho.
why not indesign? i'm an illustrator user too but everyone else i know jumped ship ._.
Indesign is not suitable for what I make. I only used indesign a bit with book and poster layouts.
Oh f my school offers free creative cloud subscription.
Sorry for all my rants about this 
eyyy
shoot I should have checked since before this semester started
So my advice to anyone here: if you are a student, go check your school website or check with IT peeps, you very likely have access to several membership/subscription resources at no cost.
Woo ahh thatโs a pretty early semester start. I donโt get vack until the 22nd....
i start monday ๐ฉ
I finished toad but I think his head is too big. Thoughts?
I don't think it looks too big
Awesome. Ty!
is goood \o/
I sacrificed a lot to make this.
My Mario drawing is gone
Lost to the sands of time
pat pat
don't you have old save files?i mean,remember i found the one i had error in Celsys like you said

I'm gonna remake it tho, so it's gucci


woah i made a desk!!!
do you guys think its kinda overexagerated in the upper part?
not really? it looks like a desk i used to have lol
based it off this
this is gonna be my first attempt for an actual room
i think i overstimated the size of the room tbh
Hehe it looks like ur enjoying SketchUp a lot
Np!!
suave bitch
dont be mean
i aint wrong
oc i forgot existed
yeah i have a huge sketch dump im filling up
i need to revisit some old sam drawings
and oh god i forgot how tall i headcanon him
lmao so i just discovered the subreddit I was gonna post my drawing to doesn't allow underwear images
wow smh
so the finished image aint going nowhere
If they don't allow underwear then take the underwear away
Its just a chick in a bra, and covering it kinda takes away from the point of it
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worp
ooh
:3
c u r v e s
co r ves
s
pwogwess
i love the pose a lot!!
Thank you! I'm really proud of it. I've been trying to create more dynamic poses
I really don't know where to find the source link for this reference but right now I'm like:
ok i saw everything

I am having fun sketching figures and omg how blind i was to not do the stick figure first till now,i was sketching the body right away weeew

oh i never do sticks lol
sometimes gestures? but thats as far as i go with planning
i can show you what i do, gimme a sec lol

https://puu.sh/Cw6LG/01ab6ea475.png first sketch is just shapes, then comes mid sketch which is closest to my lines
https://puu.sh/Cw6LU/e27aae73ab.png then lines proper
Wew
Sure you had years of practice to be able to do that lol
I'm still like

There is lot of time to experiment and find my own way 
fair enough :Y
Discord makes it lose colors but this is a little test from the game im making
i just put some planks and wheels as placeholders for the car
anyone know how to draw designs for bras? They look very detailed
But is there, like, a trick to it?
References?
You can find lace brushes and thatโd save you so much time imho
I suggest using a patterned/embossed brush?
Like I used it on the last bra I had to do on low opacity
Rio Iโm sitting in your head apparently
henlo o/
Lmao
Ooooh patterned brushes?
Yeye! Like I used the spiked one to add detail on the base color of the bra I had to draw.
See the design I have is a solid area and then a transparent area on the upper half (so nothing is exposed but there is some additional skin showing) but that transparent area could use a nice mesh or something to make it pop more
Aliens are great shoosh
Meanwhile
This is not bad at all?
Yeah i might fill a bigger page with other poses and get the hang of dynamic poses
Why do i feel like i want to give this boy a name tho 
I appreciate criticism!!
I honestly like it a lot
Thank you!!!
b o o t y
he is not an alien tho and i got a friend to help me fix him
owo
What's this?

What's this?
also
so Iโve been practicing drawing for a few days now and today I drew thi
just on a small scrap piece or paper
and I didnโt know what else to add so I added AirPods
Added a very simple design - its super basic but I don't have the patience for a more complicated one. Not yet.
Can't think of what else to do with this. ๐ค
You can call it a day lol it looks great as it is and in time you can do a redraw 
Oh a redraw sounds like a great idea down the line

I'll check with a bouncer than post it in creative then. For now, its done!
FINALLY
Is good to go lol
Last night I was like I'mma draw all day tomorrow and now it's tomorrow and it's 2:30 and I'm still in bed ๐ฌ
o o f
I'm just sooooo sleepy
attempts
You think this is a good base for a chicken? (I just kinda traced the pixel art of it)
good chicken
ALTERNATIVES TO ADOBE SUITE THREAD because fuck you
NOTE these are probably not the be all end all, just one cheapskate designer and illustrators opinion
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pwogwess
Ooo very nice progress
Ty~!
Does anyone know where I can find the SDV Portrait boxes?
As in, in the game files?
try asking in modding
Possibly. But just the image.
yeah try asking in modding, in the game files it's not packaged as images
if i remember right it was some kind of file , you need a program to extract it
Also, anyone know what Penny's hair is supposed to be like? LOL. I kind of don't understand it fully as to what kind of hairstyle it is supposed to be.
I think itโs curly bob
oh i thought she had two buns

ngl her hairstyle confuses me to this day
She has shoulder length hair and the bottom part of it is curled
It's like she has a big long curl at the base of her hair and both ends are at either side of her head
I solve that by.... just not drawing her (^ ใฎ^)b
It's okay, I don't even bother drawing anyone else
Her hairstyle is like a vintage flip imo.
Yeah it's pretty old fashioned
Hell yea
this cat
i see cat and im here
hi cat
i dont know how to do catty snouts
their noses?
mhm
@ jade i think peoples are way too focused on their own art to comment others yeet this is not a reason to not do that,or this is the other case when i tried to comment something that i didn't understand about the character he was like really negative and cut me out so i was like why should i bother give you credit anymore?again this is just me even tho i tried to make a point all the time that i might not understand many things about art yet.
the little snooty bit
Oh y'all talkers
..hua??
I really don't want to ping her wew
i thibk normally if people put stuff in discussion its something to discuss..?
ya feel
but #creative is like... just for pictures...?
I mean is on fire this channel lately 
hua?
Nvm
Ye, a decent amount of people rly do focus more on their own art
And while people are inclined to really discuss other peoples art in here
#creative tends to be people wandering in to dump art, and I think everyone could rly stand to try at least commenting on other peoples art a lil more
#creative being for pics doesn't mean you can't comment on the art, people like feedback yo
Plus it happens here too, some people come in focused on their own art
I'd love to see people bouncing ideas back and forth more? Helping others with their art too? I mean, this already happens but I wanna see it more ya feel?

i wasn't really targeting anyone specifically
yuhyuh
and like, you don't have to comment on everything you see
but it's pretty shitty to just dump all your art and not engage with anyone period
I know!!
Ye, I get u
No targets on anyones back, just a general, 'could we please engage more'
i usually lurk and comment on stuff i like umu
it's not like you'll get warned or anything it's just something that bothers me a lot especially when i see a ton of art that gets no comment
mhmhm
i'm actually really pissed right now lmao for a similar reason but i shouldn't talk about it
my rule when posting was usually to comment on the two previous things
but i havent been around in ages. could be a nice thing to suggets in pings tho
pins
there is kdjfghjkgf
yeah i try to do something similar. like. i get sometimes we post art close to each other, that's 100% okay, but if you do it constantly it comes across as you trying to steal the spotlight and it DOES discourage people from posting art
this actually is in the pins
but i could put it back at the top
or edit it to maybe be a little clearer
Is about how politie and respectful you are with the other but i get really down when the person shows me how toxic it is and ofc even tho i give em credit and try to understand they ignore me in return so I'm like "ok i don't need you either!!"
heh, i promise i've read them before i guess i missed that sdfghj
oh it's totally fine
Is this a common problem? I'm still kinda new around here so... :o
if that's happened in this server smookie you're welcome to let me know
honestly it's not incredibly common but it's been happening a lot lately so i wanted to bring it up again
for a while it seemed one person would persistantly post shortly after me and I was just ???
And it did kinda make me less inclined to post, so I def get that
So I definitely do try to comment on other peoples art
and again you don't have to point out every single piece of art you see; if you have nothing to say, don't say anything, that's fine. it's just courteous to comment on art before posting your own, especially if someone just posted before you
and if you do this sometimes, that's fine
^^^
but if you do it constantly that's when i'm just gonna ask you to try to engage a little more
and again if you do this constantly, honetly, you won't get warned for it, it's just something that personally disappoints me
tbh what kinda annoys me the most is like, if i post an art after i leave feedback for others, and then someone posts their stuff but without saying anything at all?? not even a caption abt their own work?

honestly*
and it just confuses me LMAOO
Is not like he showed me instant but in time,i rather not report it tho because i gave up understanding other people's personalities if they're just mean so be it they can't change themselves over night
that is cnfusing
I always at least have a vague 'it she' to go with my posting lol
yeah i understand that kyle
to be honest i've done that a few times but only to be passive aggressive
idk if i've done it in here
but i know i'm in some other servers that do the constant "post art over each other" so i've done it a few times because why even comment, no one's going to care
..maybe giving a role for people who are more engaging and stuff so they can post images..?
being passive aggressive may not be the greatest thing to do
but it sure feels good sometimes lol
so we dont have people dumping in stuff randomly..?
There is still artisan
tru jar... rip...
well that'd be nice sage but i don't know if that's exactly fair
i dont have artisan :โ)
thought thats what artisan was
it's something to think about but i don't want to prevent people from posting art, we have plenty of new people who want to share their art and i was the same when i first joined
artisan is for posting sdv art and being active in these channels
yeah artisan is just to show you're around creative and have done sdv art
i suppose
right, i always kinda assumed being active meant that? like being nice and stuff
but if you guys want me to try to change the role some, it can be brought to discussion
there are some ppl here who are v active but dont post sdv art at all so they unfortunately get the role
and im like, Please Join Piss Gang
..please join piss gang
Lol
don't want to make it too clique-y but maybe add the word engaging or smth
.......
its piss gangs fault that I like being yellow role everywhere now
yellow is an aesthetic colour though
well would you guys want artisan role to go past sdv related art?
or maybe another role that says artist but artisan is the sdv one?
Pleaseee let's start calling it sunflower team!!!
piss gang
sniff sniff
whats wrong with piss gang :c
I kinda like Artisan being just SDV art?
Another role for artist in general - maybe with a requirement of being more engaged and interactive would be cool tho?
yuh yuh
I like the sound of sunflower team ^o^
Jar has a point!!!
pp role
fdjkghdf as someone who also runs servers, it kinda seems like more trouble to have multiple roles for this kinda thing
yeah, ten points, for each finger
but ur the boss here jade
it can be sunflower team but it won't stop me from being piss gang
sunflower squad
Smhhh
well i'm mostly asking if you're interested
artisan is meant to be a mirror for blacksmith, except i'm more grumpy, while pathos is chill
so, personally, i don't want another artist role
but if you guys do then it's something i can talk about with staff
too many roles can get confusing??
either way, even if it's a nice idea, i'm not sure removing image priveleges for non-artisans is the right thing to do, or even an artist role
i also agree with kyle in that adding an extra role might be a lil more trouble? esp with all the other roles. but i also agree with ria and kinda add something like "being more engaging in the creative channels"
whydid i put question marks
i dont really have a preference? imo this Is The Sdv Server so i dont think its necessary to have something extra for ppl not Drawing Sdv
I like the idea of another role, but I wont be particularly bothered if there never is another?
I dont think removing image privs for non-artisans makes sense, if they cant image how do they earn Artisan lol
thats true jar
that is fair @ all
No one talked about removing the privilege to post 

progress so far
someone brought up making it so some people can't just art dump in channels, that's what i was referring to
My only suggestion would be separate places for SDV art and non-SDV art, but I dunno if I've been around long enough to where that doesn't matter?
I like how dem bandages on the chest are drawn
i like that design sunny!
same Bells
I mean, #art-gallery is all SDV art ig?
i feel like one channel or the other would be dead if we separated it, but it's a nice suggestion
And i copy and pasted after just drawing 1 arm
also it looks good so far sunny
thank you guys~
yeah i feel like keeping it like this for channels would still be fine
I see I see, that's fair :D
thats real neat lookin sunny!
its my first actual more realistic drawing
since i am a chibi artist more
The gallery channel is more like reposting though
oo jade maybe that person meant like an anti-spam feature like can't post twice in a row or sth, tho idk if thats the problem thats happening here
Instead of like... a place you can go to for specifically SDV art and can comment in
ohhhhh i see your point
but if someone were to post wips or before after it would get removed for spam
i kinda wish that the art gallery posts did somehow have a Link or something that would jump u to that persons message rather than u having to search for it but i feel like thats coding related and im dumb
oh
the tamagotchi server I'm in has a thing that slows posting? Slowmode? Maybe that could be used to slow creative down? idk shrugs in Italian
^ i was trying to find more of your art
yeah, idk if it would work sage, i just assume that's what the suggestion was cos... not posting art unless ur artisan is... ?? weird
...uwu i liked this one so much
kjfdgdfj thanks
and kyle, thats a gr8 idea
Ye^^^^
I love Noelle
i feel creepy for snagging that
also woa thats pretty
have u done the more draw of Noelle? I'd love to draw her sometime ๐
i know u didnt mean anything by it but UFDGHBDF YEAH I Had a visceral reaction to seeing my art being posted but it wasnt me LMAO
IM SORRYYY
ITS GOOODDD
i thought it was really cute
but it was posted a bit ago so i couldnt comment on it umu
yeah thats fair, it is at least on tumblr tho kjfgdhfd
I mean, at the end of the day, discord isn't really a great art platform -u-
i think the issue is that the server is getting bigger (im assuming) so as more people join i think that's why there was an issue of people posting more and not enough commenting? and plus most people seem to not look at the pins for things like being courteous and comment before posting. (also sorry i was taking too long to type and now the convo has moved on)
we should have a seperate channel for reposting (with a valid source and link)
i havent actually Touched my noelle file or any sdv stuff lately so i havent had any inspiration to draw sdv atm
y'know with the people posting others' art in creative
does discord allow links to more platforms then steam and twitter?
it'd be nice to add tumblr links
or just leave reposting to sewers altogether maybe
in profiles*
no clue battle
D:
imo i think if you wanna show off someones art, then do it here in #creative-discussion
sewers have such bad rep
not in creative or sewers
mhm
oh yeh, i guess here
agreed @ kyle
o ok
ive showed off a commission of my farmer and sebastian that my friend did and i linked it here
original source and everything
sorry i was doing something else
the issue isn't necessarily people spamming art it's just when people drop art without looking at someone else's
that's not really something we can fix unless i enforce it, and even though i REALLY hate it, i feel like it's too petty to truly enforce
I don't think it's petty :0
wtf its poppin in here tonight
u just sideeyeing and shakin ur head
also yeah, unfortunately we didn't make the artisan leah bot so it'd be nice if it could link to posts, i wonder if we can make that a suggestion to the bot makers
thank you stith, i guess i just mean to say i don't really want to put full-ass warnings on people for that. if someone was being a jerk about it, yes, i could absolutely warn them
yeah, I dunno how you'd enforce it without... turning people off from posting
but we can still encourage each other, and i''m glad we could all have this conversation
like, if someone is being extremely unpleasant to you PLEASE let us know, you can contact me or other staff or the bouncer
otherwise let's all be supportive
Everyone's been nice so far that I've seen (^ ใฎ^)b I'm not terribly active on here though
that is true!! and honestly this is one of the most wholesome and positive community ive ever seen that like comment on other people's art a lot more than most
glad you think so! and that's fine haha
And I think I'm usually on when everyone's asleep anyway . _.
feeb i appreciate u
not if i appreciate u first, bucko
o hek
i smell an appreciation war
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ye im in a few other servers (tho not one this HUGE) and its so much nicer to post art here
yeah definitely
i get this might not be the 100% best place to have critique but i mean u can still ask for it
i'm glad thre's a ton of artists in the community
it's nice to post something and we do take pride in this being a welcoming place
so if anything i guess that's why it bugs me a lot since i know that's happened to me a lot on other servers
i don't want to encourage that same kind of behavior here
screeching also i dun want to do legs
tl;dr, you don't have to comment on everything, but don't treat these channels as an art dump. that's all i ask
you've done 4 rly good arms so u get to skip legs i hear
ur lines are v nice and neat
that looks great so far sunny!
Aye aye o7
also with the way this server is, most critiques never really come off as rude and 10/10 people on here are good beans
i do think its a good idea to make another post and pin it in creative, with some Bold ass fonts, bc theres a lot of ppl i notice who have done the stuff ur annoyed at but are likely not reading this
also ppl dont,,,,,know how to read KJDFGBDFHGBD
maybe an @ Artisan about it in #bulletin-board ?
I'm always a bit scared to critique, I feel like I come off as mean u.u I critique with then intention of helping someone improve aaaaaaaa
as someone whos done So many commissions, no one knows. no one will. no matter how many times i beg them to read my ToS,
i might reoganize the pins some since there are a lot of pins
also can i highlight a critique i got today in the dms?
and combine some posts
ok
rule of thumb is dont critique unless asked to, then peeps wont get upset. ive seen that happen here and its always so stressful
i agree he did before i fixed it
i understand that feeling sti- yeah what ria said
its never been mean tho
Oh, I feel your pain, Kyle u.u about the no one reading a ToS
as long has you're fine with it ghfidflsa
but some of us are sensitive beans
I mean
art being compared to food? hell ye
means ur suited for drawing food
i told them to slay me
ye, always get permission to critique u-u
i'm unsure if i'll do a ping but i can make a bulletin board post about the changes jar
thank y'all for the feedback
i have a dirty filthy bias for creative and creative discussion
^~^
don't tell pathos

jade can i just say i appreciate u 200% u da best
jade is da best indeed
cause i do not know what i am doing with more realistic and so i told them to be harsher, they know what they are doing and imma comm them once they turn 18
awww thank u i appreciate u too
oof the tos. aint no one read those lmao
jade is an amazing bean
no one reads shit, thats what i've learned on discord
jade ur my favourite yeehaw
yeah i think asking for harsh critique can be fine, though at least here it's good to be careful 
also jade nice
i hope to never see a "ur art is shit" in this channel ever
SO MUCH LOVE AAAHHHHH
i love you all too really

ACCEPT THE LOVE
me: i dont draw animals or furries
commissioner, after ive been working with them for a while and gave me the rest of the refs for their dnd party: hey can you draw an owlbear and a werebear
me: h,
awe โค
it's mine now, i'm hoarding it
good
99% of my browsing is in the art section cause this is by far the best section
and hhhh kyle
commissioner: can u draw my fursona since they're a lizard it doesn't count it's technically not a furry
JKDFGBKDJFNGBFDGBD
My favorite question is: "are you open for commissions?" u.u
What, if it's a fursona then it definitely is a furry....
i know i was just makin a little joke amu
can i ask to draw a furry thing if it isn't a fursona?
since lizards don't have fur
if ur opening is 'how do you feel about soft nsfw' and then you ask me to age a character up. that's. a hard no.
trash
oh snap
Oh geez
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i am sorry
luckily they aren't around anymore? so it worked itself out
oh that's good!
yea
was wondering if that was gonna and in a block or a polite no
when i first started talking about coms here i got some wild stuff blobsweat
i won't dm you next time feeb SOZ
what i hate the most is something along the lines of "i dont have any money but i want u to do art for me"
i'm kidding. if i had money i'd commish a bunch of y'all
r/ChoosingBeggars
yeah that sucks cat

man i should open commissions here for sdv stuff bc Tons of ppl asked me abt it here and on my sdv tumblr but i,,,wanna open up a separate paypal for it,, dkfjghdf under a business account so i can hide my given name hrbtrhtb
plenty of people in that sub who don't think they have to pay
I can't comission things because I refuse, REFUSE, to have credit or debit cards
๐ ngl kyle thats. exactly why i have a business paypal lmao
dumb question, do the commission taking people put watermarks on their work?
ehhh more like a signature? its there but i dont cover the main stuff with it
same
unless its a preview. then you're getting the most obnoxiously stamped bs i can throw at you
XD
i should make another paypal too because the one i own has my full name and i hate that you can't change it
Nice
they cover it when posting it to public
cause i'm tired of people thinking they can dip cause i gave them a screenshot
Dip?
yo, y'all talkin a lot in here
yeah what i did was basically drop the quality to shit but enough to see if they want any changes
and big watermark
We're discussing commissions
yeah
dropping the quality is interesting
oh yeah, occasionally i get commissions that are over $100 and i let people pay half first and then pay the rest amount when i finish, and when i finish, show them an itty bitty preview
someone tried to rip me off once, amu. 8Y i mean they were gonna run off without paying the second half
enough for them to see it but not Good Quality to Use
i cant believe some people have the audacity to do that tbh, to just yeet out
i know some ppl who got scammed real bad
i tend to pay all up front most of the time
just send them an actual pciture with ur phone
cause i worry about forgetting to pay right away so i pay once i get it
they just took the art and blocked them
and then it has the screen static-y lines
omfg
tilt the camera and everything
i like having people pay in halves
include your hand in the picture so it's even more authentic
thats... actually a good idea LMAO
you get final high quality image when i get final payment, but first sketch = first payment :V
i only do it for Big Money Commissions
if ur just payin for a $45 thing then just give me the money upfront lmao
they got upset when i expressed my concerns the second time(cause i did word wrong and i did admit i did in a full apology later on but it was also 10 months in and had heard nothing from them)
I always ask for clients to pay upfront ^^
taking the money upfront scares me cause im worried ill be slow or somehow forget D:
D:
it hasnt happened yet but the fear is real lmao
theres this artist in the furry community has over 1000 backlogged commissions
yells
o.o
that sounds really intense
i up front tell people i work full time so i get them to remind me after two weeks if i have not finished
they just recently hit 1000 mark
i'd literally pass out from the stress if i had 1000 pending drawings
i legit would have a cap for myself
i get scared taking 3 at a time cause i know i can only work on weekends
I don't get enough commissions to have that problem hehe.... -u-;;;
my prob is that the commissions i get are always extremely complicated and im designing things from scratch and im unfortunately Slow ๐ ๐ค
yeah like. during school time i warn people that it might be a couple months because i have school/outside work.
also to kick me if they want updates cause i'll gladly show proof that i've got something for them
???
I'd die if I owed people 1000's art works
I die inside when I decide to make art for someone and havent even told em
๐ art gotta be on time
hands? idk her
I love drawing hands D:
Man, Stith, did you draw your pic?
i love hands but i also hate them lmao
same feeb
Indeed I did, Amu ^^
It's awesome.
Thanks (* ใฎ *)b
https://puu.sh/CwnXO/dbe89c0174.png this lil bastard? cute. fun. i lov them
https://puu.sh/CwnYe/c248bb1602.png this binch?? burnt my crops and salted the earth. i hate them
oh mood
its always super fun to see what Thing an artist likes to draw thats a common thing General Artists hate to draw
At some point it might be cool to have a pic of the one serious DnD character I've made...but IDK. I love the character, but not some stuff tangentially tied to the DnD campaign
๐ dnd
i hate hands but i also need to make an effort and do some hand studies
god i am so spoiled in that all of the people i play dnd with are all Artists
im constantly being fed and feeding other ppl personal dnd art LMAO
I don't think there's really anything I don't like to draw now that I think about it
hair and face is probably my favorite even if i need to do more variation with faces
and boobies
but i need to work on a lot of stuff, this motivates me to do some more studies
for me, i DMed with a bunch of people who dont art and when i drew them an npc for them they were so happy about it, which made me happy 
also agreed w jade
this year im gonna get better at drawing interior backgrounds, make them more lively and have Character
make them Lived in
i also have a problem of drawing fem so much more then masculine people and i know that I SHOULD expand on drawing some masc figures but i cant help it 
interior backgrounds are a butt but i'm sure you got this
i... nee to do that too
backgrounds is def one of my strengths and its a thing that a lot of artists end up trying to avoid, but theres a Huge skill difference btwn my ability to draw nature stuff and Interiors
let me get a tutorial i saw some time ago if no one here has seen it
new year art resolutions ๐ฐ
kyle good luck mdude
i'm the same kyle, i'm way better at nature
interiors are evil and INORGANIC
REE
lmao well not really but still
MAN MADE [HISS]
Interiors can be fun D:
too many straight lines, i cant ////squiggles brush
I'm seeing "draw more backgrounds" on a lot of people's art resolution lists, so -- as someone who used to be scared of drawing backgrounds -- here are some tips!
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this was a nice post
tho last friday i worked on a dnd map that was All straight lines and it turned out really good...... i figured out how to use csp perspective rulers >:D
omg bless
they mostly talk about interior stuff
yeee ive seen that one
thats what i meant abt having rooms have more Character and personality
Background, I hardly know her
but i'm trying to get comfortable drawing backgrounds in the first place
yeeee
heck yeah perspective rulers
i'm excited to see your stuff kyle
your art already blows my mind
SHOOSH
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LOL
The hardest part is starting, imo ^^ once you get going, it's not so bad!
lookin back on my comic, im kinda disappointed in myself for not like, Things, in the run down farmhouse that shohei was in
like it kinda makes sense but its not visually stimulating
i've been trying to use references a bit more, right now i'm mostly just copying it to get a hang of it but hopefully after a lil bit i'll be able to do more involved stuff
that's understandable kyle but tbh i didn't notice, nothing seemed off or lacking to me
Exactly my way to practice
im beyond late, but im the opposite and dont draw fem ever ๐ ๐ฆ so i gotta stop being gay and draw some ladiez
but hey it'll be even better next time
but everything is gay when ur enby ๐ฉ ๐ค
U RITE
If you feel overwhelmed with interiors, maybe try doing small pieces in the interior first? Uhhh.... let me look up an example rq
i was gonna post this but i think it's funnier as an image
KJBFDGD
this years gonna kick my ass cause im taking perspective class at school. a binch gonna draw some buildings and stuff
im going to die
im excited though haha
A piece by J.C. Leyendecker :D Not a whole interior, just like.... pieces to indicate
leyendeckers clothing folds ๐ฉ ๐๐ฝ ๐๐ฝ
At least, that's how I started to get comfortable doing interiors ^^
that's a very nice table
yeyeye actually the artpiece i had just submitted to the winter contest is a Small interior thing
that im very happy with
yess i love it
I really am amazed by the detail on the lamp
thats kinda how im tackling comics rn. doing little bits at a time instead of jumping right in and getting frustrated outta things
who knew baby steps were a good way to learn wtf
๐ pooost
Awww c:
you can repost the contest stuff in creative if you want it pinned
CUTE, the atmosphere is sooo cozy, i love it

it did LOL
i knwo you showed us how u did that. but how u did that wtf kyle
me @ all my art friends: im gonna eat your hands and drink ur art. get ready.
no it's not ria
i just mean a lot of comic fans are in there
like marvel comics
people don't post comics in there much, you can do whatever art you want
feeb thirsty for da NAWLEDGE
oooh, i'd love an invite then, seein pretty art motivates me
sure i'll send one
that is so me it hurts
i think the edges could be a little more diffuse?
lower opacity too?
i'd chek some refs, all of a sudden idk what smoke looks like D:
lmao me neither XD
try adding highlights to the smoke? :0
oh yeh
so googling smoke doesnt pop up good refs but if you look up "smoke creature lost" those kinda look like what ur going for @crisp crystal
im going to bed but best of luckk w ur draw
the smoke looks good 
^^
Smoke is hard lol, ur doing good
๐ฐ I avoid water lol
Jade did some rly awesome water tho
How does water even water ๐ฐ Makes no sense
lmao that is a feeling
its going
Ooooooo very nice
I like thos window :BlobAdore: (just pretend it work ;-; )
ahh I'm anxious to finish the drawing of my SV character
just gotta colour it now
you can do it!!
it's 4 am here rn but yess I'll finish that tomorrow
aaa thank you!
after my coop and puffer kirby i may do a inkling version of my oc or something
oncei draw these hands i can yeet myself into the shower before bed
; o; i dont wanna
I gave my cousin my drawing tablet because I never use it anymore 
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you mean you got a new one right?
how do you draw your mario stuff? :0
^
But.... but hands are fun ;_;
tbf yes once you get the hang of them

๐ฉ im just gonna finish this draw tomorrow. its secret gift art anyway so they dont know about it
it is tru tho, things become fun when u git super good at it, at least in my case for some things
exactly!
That's why I try to have fun with whatever I'm doing \o/
It helps me motivate myself to improve
If that makes sense
It made sense in my head anyway haha
I use the mouse lmao
I used to use the tablet (obviously, that's why I got it), but I've just been drawing with the mouse lately and I'm entirely content doing it this way
She expressed interest in having a drawing tablet, and since mine is just collecting dust I figured she'd get more use out of it than I was getting.
high fives Mouse art club
woow
I wouldn't mind getting an iPad eventually
I like the idea of drawing on smthing that doesn't require connection to my laptop at all lol
Apparently procreates a good app
high5 indeed! 













