making-mods-general

[olive lotus]

Ok, so I made a crop mod with 3 crops. After some rounds of quick correction, the seeds show up in the store, with the right price. The plants get planted fine... except of the 3, the seeds are visible in the ground for only one. I've triple checked that all the asset files are in the folder, and named as listed. They fit the crop mod template; I used the same sprites in a 1.5 mod (I actually want to update the art, but thought I'd use something that's already known to work for testing). What am I missing?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1fce4e3ae9c14bba9bbc4971f62a469b

[valid folio]

Ok so I’ll have to adjust the tree’s design then, thank you very much.

[autumn tide]

hellooo does the $query dialog command still apply to potential $actions?

[brittle pasture]

just in case can you post the crops tilesheets

the code looks correct

[olive lotus]

Heh; I just opened one. And for some reason the crop was resized to 384 x 96, not 128 x 32. I don't know exactly why two of them came out as giants when I made all 3 in the correct size in the first place (And as noted, used them before). But now I'm laughing.

[cyan marsh]

good afternoon

[autumn tide]

hey!

[royal stump]

in theory at least, any commands should be limited to the dialogue branch they're in, e.g.
$query SEASON spring#Branch 1 text.$action AddMail Current Branch_1_Happened|Branch 2 text.$action AddMail Current Branch_2_Happened

[autumn tide]

hmm, okay, can i send my dialog for help?

[royal stump]

sure, I can't guarantee much since I just do C#, but someone else probably knows if I don't

[autumn tide]

"I heard sundwellers dress up and stuff tomorrow and the wizard makes a magic maze.#$b#Can I come, friend? I'll be good. Honest.#$e#$query PLAYER_NPC_RELATIONSHIP current Krobus Roommate#...Fine. I should probably stay here and make sure Krobus doesn't go eat any sundwellers anyways.$9#$query Spiderbuttons.BETAS_NPC_NEAR_NPC Dwarf 20 Krobus#$action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_EmoteNpc Krobus 12"

[uncut viper]

you can't do this, because you can't use # to then separate the commands from their text

[autumn tide]

it is one of dwarf's lines lol

[west thunder]

oop

[autumn tide]

could you elaborate? still fairly new to this

[uncut viper]

the query command uses # to split the true gsq text from the false gsq text

[autumn tide]

mhm

[uncut viper]

therefore, you cannot use a # to act as the required separator between text and an action command

[autumn tide]

oh, i thought it was |

[uncut viper]

Or a break, even

minor mistype, it is |, the # separates it from the gsq

[autumn tide]

ohhh okay gotcha

is there another simple way i might do that?

[uncut viper]

im on mobile so I can't double check the c# but I'm 75% confident in this from last time I messed around with query when trying to debug something unrelated

[autumn tide]

got it, thanks button!

[uncut viper]

which, that other issue is actually what will likely make your second query fail anyway, ftr

[royal stump]

(I'm just going by the docs and examples, and none of the examples end with #, I just assumed it'd work if they were end-loaded )

[uncut viper]

like the wiki note says, queries are not resolved the moment you speak to the NPC. In most cases they are resolved much earlier

so there's little chance the dwarf will ever be near them unless they started and/or ended their first schedule entries that way

[autumn tide]

hmmm okay

[royal stump]

I can imagine a pretty convoluted workaround for it, like

[...] anyways.$9#$action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_TriggerAction {{ModId}}_ConditionalKrobusEmote"```
-> Data/TriggerActions entry with the condition "is dwarf around krobus?" and the emote action

with the entry set to Manual trigger so it doesn't happen otherwise

[autumn tide]

ooh maybe! ...tbh i'm a little too lazy for that though

[uncut viper]

got back to my desk and decided to look at the code that handles $query and ended up understanding it less and confused how it works at all so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

one of these days ill rewrite the entire parseDialogueString() function just to have something better to reference to see how things work, rather than the mess it currently is no matter what i decompile it with

[brittle pasture]

wow, it's even more horrible than I expect, and that's with me already expecting it to be more horrible than I expect

[uncut viper]

its much better in dnSpy instead of ILSpy, but even then its not perfect

[calm nebula]

nom nom nom

I still haven't gotten a single scam DM I suspect my permissions are closed actually

[royal stump]

...ah, yeah, that parser really explodes into gotos on top of the weird switch optimization

[brittle pasture]

clearly you should post "i want c*mm*ss*on b*tc*on w*ll*t"

if I got a scam DM off that I'd be mildly shook

[ornate locust]

Boy that censoring made me read those words entirely differently

[uncut viper]

past me has wanted to just rip out that entire parse function and replace it with a more readable version that also allows for registering custom dialogue commands, buuut i stopped myself bc idk what kinds of dialogue commands people would even want

[brittle pasture]

~~BETAS scope creep ~~
text effects maybe, but that's signing away part of your sanity

[lucid iron]

@ blueberry

[uncut viper]

text effects would need a lot more than just a custom dialogue command, though. the dialogue command would probably be the easiest part by far

[lucid iron]

Casey made yarn events

Idk if it was ever released

[uncut viper]

my idea was specifically just touching parseDialogueString and nothin else which is why itd be both easy but also a bit too niche i think

on the fence about how much i could justify it in betas though now that youve mentioned it

[lucid iron]

I'd be worried about breaking stuff tbh

[uncut viper]

well obv you'd have to be careful to make it functionally identical

in an ideal implementation it'd be indistinguishable from vanilla functionality, on the user-facing side of things, if no one registers a custom command

[lucid iron]

I was thinking how it'd be nice if u had more context about the dialogue that a tokenized string is parsed from

[uncut viper]

i think thats more possible in 1.7?

[lucid iron]

Yeah tho idk how it works exactly yet

[uncut viper]

parseDialogueString doesnt even touch tokenizable string parsing either

[lucid iron]

The janky ass solution i went for is to sub in the args needed lol

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/HaveMoreKids/Framework/Patches/Narrative.cs#L45

[uncut viper]

unsure how to feel about that

[lucid iron]

It's just like the [CallerMemberName] in C# trust

[uncut viper]

i dont know how i feel about that either even though i dont think i have any reason to feel hesitant about it

[lucid iron]

I don't remember why I opt for this instead of just keep around the NPC somewhere

[uncut viper]

this is coming from the person who used the stacktrace as critical mod functionality before though so yknow take it as you will

https://github.com/Spiderbuttons/MirrorMode/blob/main/MirrorMode/Patches/TASPatches.cs#L72-L123

very important work being done here

[brittle pasture]

hmm that seems more elegant than my "set and unset static variable in the parent function" approach

[gentle rose]

are you guys doing crime

[elfin kindle]

Crimes? in the modding channel? nooooooooo, never

[uncut viper]

no just talking about things that are actually not really crime-y

except for my mirrormode mod, thats crime, but its old

[autumn tide]

[autumn tide]

BORRRRING

[lucid iron]

The crime is past tense

[uncut viper]

your stuff is still present tense chu

[sleek flint]

Hello everyone, it's been a while since I talked here. How is everyone doing?

[lucid iron]

Commit history says it was done many moons ago

[uncut viper]

but its in an actively developed and maintained mod

[autumn tide]

...i'm newer so i do not recognize you but hey!

[lucid iron]

Mirror Mode shall rise again

With rtx ray tracing

[brittle pasture]

full integration with casey's spenny

I don't even know how the two interacts currently

[modest dagger]

I am once again dabbling with local tokens bc i for some reason think i can simplify my code even further

[sleek flint]

I already looked, but can someone confirm whether anyone has released a custom channel framework? I have been polishing it for a while, so I will probably release it anyway you know, 2 cakes and all, but wanted to make sure.

[rough lake]

Hello, excuse me, could someone by any chance help me a little with the creation of my mod?

I don't fully understand the wiki

[brittle pasture]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/24278 (it has some users already)

(you already mentioned the two cakes obviously but you're always encouraged to release your own take)

[sleek flint]

This one is old and I already know about it.

[autumn tide]

sure! that's what we're here for :) what do you need help with?

[modest dagger]

Selph, am I able to have two local tokens in the same json, that are independent of each other

[rough lake]

I can't get the code to change Sam's name in the dialog box and in the villager menu 🙁

[brittle pasture]

or more, nothing stopping you

[rough lake]

Something is still wrong; I only managed to change its appearance.

[modest dagger]

hm

[autumn tide]

could you clarify?

[brittle pasture]

!json if you have code already pls post it via the link

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[rough lake]

I'm a complete beginner at making mods.

[autumn tide]

what do you mean by 'appearance'?

[gentle rose]

can you show us what you already have by putting it in this link please?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[modest dagger]

so theoretically it should be possible for my code for machines to be simplified down to {{Animal}}{{Q}}(whatever the suffix is)

[rough lake]

I'm trying to replace Sam with a character and I've already changed his appearance, but I want the name of the character I want to replace him with to appear in the dialogue box and in the villager menu.

[modest dagger]

sorry if i'm being annoying with this

[autumn tide]

gotcha! that should be pretty simple to do

[brittle pasture]

I don't quite get you mean sorry, maybe example code of what you want can help

[autumn tide]

first, we wanna see what you have written, so follow the instruction on the command below

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[rough lake]

Sure, although it's just the code that changes its appearance with the sprites I made

[modest dagger]

am i able to send a block of code here or is that too disruptive

[brittle pasture]

use the json link

[modest dagger]

gotcha

[rough lake]

Okay, let me upload it

[autumn tide]

awesome, thanks :)

[rough lake]

I didn't know you had to do that, hahaha

[modest dagger]

https://smapi.io/json/none/93d8afd2a79644d0bce0dbd923b2acb7 - this is what it was
https://smapi.io/json/none/d23c46c9de54488c8db9e1afc1ac0a89 - this is what i'm trying to reduce it to with an additional local token

[autumn tide]

it's alr! it's just easier for us to see what you have that way

[rough lake]

Sorry if it's horrible hahaha I just followed the instructions on the wiki

https://smapi.io/json/none/e13728d021434e658ffe19d9a19fe93c

I really don't know what I'm doing.

[autumn tide]

that's okay!

[autumn tide]

you shouldn't need to change any images

[elfin kindle]

We've all been the person whose got no clue whats going on

Well maybe not ALL of us but A LOT of us

[brittle pasture]

definitely, you'll either have to specify every combination, or you can nest templates

[uncut viper]

i dont know how Spenny works but it seems like itd rotate the screen using rendertargets or whatever maybe? in which case it should be fully compatible with MirrorMode as MirrorMode does not draw things differently, its actually placing the maps and TAS's and events mirrored-ly

[stray hemlock]

Speak for yourself, I'm still that person.

[autumn tide]

I have pre-existing code to change display names, do you want me to send that or do you want us to guid you through coding?

[uncut viper]

(theres actually quite a lot (too much some would say) of code dedicated solely to mirroring the X coordinates for things like schedules, events, map properties, etc lol)

[autumn tide]

if so, there are some great resources to look at :)

[elfin kindle]

Honestly so fair. Every other week i gotta come in here with my little hat in my hands asking if someone knows wtf is wrong with my code

[autumn tide]

me too! i somehow remain in a state of perpetual uncertainty despite knowing the basics-

[hard fern]

I beat my Jason with a hammer until it works

[stray hemlock]

Yes. And then they take one look and tell you everything you did wrong.

[autumn tide]

..can i quote this pls?

[rough lake]

It would make my life much easier if you could help me with a pre-made code, but this is just the first phase, as I want to completely replace Sam's name in the game, meaning even changing it in the other characters' dialogues. So I think it would be a great help if you could guide me on how to do this.

[elfin kindle]

I'm starting to feel a little more confident and i understand... mooost terms??

[elfin kindle]

ofc ofc LMAO

[modest dagger]

am not a coder but would definitely like to know bout nesting templates

[autumn tide]

perfect! uhh, one sec

[patent lance]

New quote added by head_in_the_cl0uds as #6809 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1449171596353994803)

[stray hemlock]

Thank you!

[patent lance]

YEAH SURE NP, KISSASS

[elfin kindle]

Damn bro

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/ContentPacks/[CP] Lumisteria Toddlers/data/child-3tuple.json

[hard fern]

Uber bot is very mean

[autumn tide]

awww :)

they're so sweeet

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/ContentPacks/[CP] Lumisteria Toddlers/data/spouse.json#L7

[autumn tide]

love youuuu

[elfin kindle]

I can only think that you'd have to manually go in and change all references to Sam's name in the files, right? I'd love to hear if people have other solutions tho

[lucid iron]

I make kids 3 at a time with this

[elfin kindle]

That, out of context, sounds insane

[modest dagger]

even in context it sounds a bit insane

[lucid iron]

Points to sign that says Have More Kids

[autumn tide]

here it is!

        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Characters",
            "TargetField": [
                "Sam"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "DisplayName": "sam 2.0"
            },
        },

[lucid iron]

You don't have to do this for vanilla characters

[elfin kindle]

Oh right ofc, target fields

they scare me

[lucid iron]

They have localized string to edit instead

[autumn tide]

OH SHIT YEA

[elfin kindle]

oho!

[stray hemlock]

Does that also take care of all the additional chores and upkeep?

Or does it not have any application in real life?

[autumn tide]

..this should still work tho right?

[lucid iron]

But the dialogue problem remains the same

You need to replace references to Sam by hand

[uncut viper]

why use targetfield to edit the displayname anyway

the characters are a top level field, just use Fields

[rough lake]

:0

[lucid iron]

No u must feed the gremlins

[uncut viper]

the localizedtext edit is better for reasons chu mentions

[autumn tide]

eh, that's what i wrote like 2 months ago-

[elfin kindle]

I said i knew most terms, not all, i'm just getting the hang of fields

[autumn tide]

wait a sec i might've fucked up

[stray hemlock]

But not after midnight.

[rough lake]

thanks¡¡¡
For now, I'll just change the name in the menus, since someone told me that to replace it in other characters' dialogues, you have to do it manually.

[autumn tide]

okay pls tell me what i did wrong 😭 istg just when i think i know the game-

[rough lake]

NP

[lucid iron]

Well im on phone so idrm the asset name

[rough lake]

:3

[lucid iron]

But the thing to edit is like strings/npcnames

[autumn tide]

OH YEAH THAT ONE

..should it change both?

[lucid iron]

As for what you did here, you can use Fields instead of TargetField

Doesn't make a huge difference

[autumn tide]

aight, is it alr if i keep it tho?

[autumn tide]

LOL okay

[rough lake]

Does anyone happen to want to be my sensei? XD hahaha I like making mods but I'm too new to this and I don't understand anything about the wiki

[autumn tide]

buttons has a good tutorial on her site!

[rough lake]

But doing the portraits was fun.

[elfin kindle]

You'll start picking it up quick! The basics start to make sense soon enough imo anyways ^^

[rough lake]

The thing is, English isn't my first language and I'm a bit slow at learning, so I find it harder to understand in English 🙁

[elfin kindle]

Aaah that makes sense, then it might be a bit more of a struggle. But this community is great at explaining and helping ^^

[stray hemlock]

I know a bit of Esperanto, would that help?

[rough lake]

My primary language is Spanish

[stray hemlock]

Don't know that, unfortunately.

[autumn tide]

okay @rough lake, this SHOULD be correct.. pls check me other mod ppl

        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Strings/NPCNames",
            "Entries": {
                "Sam": "sam 3.0 bc i apparently fucked up last time"
            },
        },

[calm nebula]

(Tbh it's not that uncommon for a good artist to work with someone else who does the coding)

Ie, wildflour x hime

[uncut viper]

that one you'd just use Entries

[autumn tide]

jesus-

[calm nebula]

This is quite hard to do without c#

Are you sure you dont want a standalone npc

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28276

[autumn tide]

you (me) learn something new (that you suck) everyday (whenever i try to code) ✨

[lucid iron]

C# example of how2

But yeah +1 for new npc

[elfin kindle]

That'd mean making a schedule and dialogue tho, but it might be more satisfying to make your own but it's not really a small task. But a lot of people won't want to change out Sam for a character they might not know

[autumn tide]

oooh can I see? I actually made a portrait template if you're interested!

[lucid iron]

Isn't it a template

[autumn tide]

shit yeah

[lucid iron]

Framework has slightly different nuances imo

[autumn tide]

dammit i cant english-

[lucid iron]

Dw it's sdv modding specific nuances too

[modest dagger]

so if i'm nesting templates does that mean when defining my animal token i'd define it as Cow{{Q}} and have to define the Q elsewhere?

[autumn tide]

ye but that's the only thing i can code-

[elfin kindle]

Yeah i don't really know wtf a framwork is honestly, i get scared when i have to use anyone elses code

[ocean sail]

@elfin kindle You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

[elfin kindle]

my gosh, finally lololol

[autumn tide]

YAYYY YOU'RE BLUE

join ussss

[hard fern]

Template is more "put the thing in and it works"
Vs framework that is more "ok so i did a thing that lets you do more things but you have to figure those other things out on your own"

[uncut viper]

(hint: Content Patcher is a framework)

[elfin kindle]

Okay fair enuff

[lucid iron]

The way I model it is that there's "data" and "logic"

[elfin kindle]

Time to see what kind of roles i can get/hj

[autumn tide]

helll yeahhh

[lucid iron]

portraits, dialogue, and other kinda thing that can be edited via content pipeline is "data"

[hard fern]

You can be orange.

[autumn tide]

this is like the gateway role

[rough lake]

I'm a little embarrassed, haha, since it's such a random character.

[lucid iron]

Content Patcher is "logic" that allows json to add data

[autumn tide]

don't be :)

[elfin kindle]

I hope i can get orange but since my mod is well... not allowed to be spoken about in much depth im a little uncertain but i'll probs ask lolol

[lucid iron]

C# frameworks generally add other kinds of new "logic" that vanilla doesn't have

[autumn tide]

worth a shot!

[rough lake]

:0 thanks I'll try it and see if I can finally get it, hahaha

[elfin kindle]

Oh yeah throw out your character, i promise no one will think it's weird ^^ A lot of us are making NPC mods or editing NPCs to our own tastes, theres very niche mods already out there too

[scarlet rune]

Hiii

[lucid iron]

So for example i have a small framework that changes monster appearances according data side rules

[rough lake]

It's Fang from Brawl Stars, hahaha

[hard fern]

Why did i only realize EndOfYearPaperwork was atra after seeing the "is typing..." At the bottom.

[autumn tide]

oh hell yeah, im the one making neurodivergent enby cryptids with trauma disorders!

[autumn tide]

damnnn they look cool!

[autumn tide]

hey there!

[rough lake]

Even though the sprites are horrendous hahaha I feel like it looks weird

[autumn tide]

dw! spritework is famously hell ✨

[scarlet rune]

Hru bro

[stray hemlock]

If you examine the vanilla sprites you realize that they are really uneven.

So no worries.

[modest dagger]

spare yourself, don't examine vanilla art

[rough lake]

I really feel like I hate them, but I couldn't do anything better.

[autumn tide]

alr! you? also if you're looking for general chat you might wanna check ouy some of the other channels cause this one's for mod-making specifically

[rough lake]

:,u

[autumn tide]

i like them!

[scarlet rune]

Oh, I understand Thank you❤️‍🩹

[stray hemlock]

The legs are a bit weird in frontal view. I'd put them closer together. Other than that they look good.

[autumn tide]

no worries :) feel free to come back if/whenever you get into modding haha

[rough lake]

Well, if anyone ever needs help making portraits, I'm good at it haha

[autumn tide]

well-

not yet lol

[scarlet rune]

It's really kind of you to say that Thank you again🫴🏻❤️‍🩹

[autumn tide]

OH lemme send the template one sec

[hard fern]

Every day i think of sam's side facing beach portrait

[autumn tide]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/39706

..i gotta make a sprite version too..

[stray hemlock]

Why did you tell me?

[autumn tide]

SHOW US SHOW US SHOW US

[hard fern]

No

[rough lake]

hahaha I just extracted Sam's files and drew over them

[autumn tide]

..show us?

[rough lake]

I mean, that was the template I used

[stray hemlock]

The hair is cut off at the back because CA used the normal image and simply erased his collar there.

[autumn tide]

oh heavens-

i feel like i should dramatically pass out now like a fancy old woman in an old tv show

[stray hemlock]

Taken from the wiki, by the way, so publically available.

[autumn tide]

ikkkk i just didn't feel like looking-

[stray hemlock]

I just wanted to clarify that I'm not sharing stuff that's deep in the game files.

[rough lake]

ummmmm

[autumn tide]

and even if you were, it's allowed!

[autumn tide]

?

[rough lake]

que se supone que debo escribir ahi hahaha

[uncut viper]

its not encouraged for people to distribute random game files, thats what unpacking is for

[rough lake]

o sorry

My Spanish slipped out

XD

[rough lake]

what am I supposed to write there

[hard fern]

Replace with the name you want

[autumn tide]

LMAO dw, i gotta get better at my spanish- you just write what you wanna call sam!

[rough lake]

I'm getting an error in smapi

:,v

[hard fern]

Eh

[autumn tide]

hm, can you post the json again?

as well as the error

[rough lake]

The JSON validator tells me that that row is incorrect.

[autumn tide]

could you send it?

[rough lake]

Oh wait, I think I've already spotted the mistake.

[autumn tide]

oh nice! oh also, want me to send button's tutorial? it's really good!

[rough lake]

No, I definitely didn't figure it out.

I'll upload it again in a moment

[autumn tide]

LOL, it's okay, just send us the stuff lol

[rough lake]

https://smapi.io/json/none/6b19f0fc540e4f3eba1bc01cee4acfe6

[autumn tide]

so, what's the error?

also you're gonna wanna make the format 2.8.0

[uncut viper]

the error on the validator is because you're missing another } that is required between line 9 and 10

also, there is a random w on line 12

at the end

[rough lake]

If I delete that key, it tells me that the error is in the row "Sam : Fang"

[uncut viper]

you dont delete it. you need another one

after the word Entries you have a {, which is paired with the } that you circled

[autumn tide]

gotta go now mariel, hope i could help!

[rough lake]

I already had it and it indicated that that key was also wrong

[uncut viper]

but you still have another { that needs a matching pair above your Action line

the second } is required, there is no wiggle room in json syntax

[rough lake]

Yes, don't worry, thank you so much for all your help.

[uncut viper]

it would also need a comma after it to separate it from your other Load patches below it

[stray hemlock]

Except for trailing commas in SMAPI.

[uncut viper]

i wouldnt really call that wiggle room per se, thats just valid syntax

but i will concede it

[rough lake]

ummm I think he more or less understood

Let me try to fix it

[uncut viper]

if you still get another error then you can re-upload it to the validator website again and send the new link

[hard fern]

I wonder how many validator links are currently active atm

[stray hemlock]

Will we ever run out?

[rough lake]

something like that

[uncut viper]

they expire after 2 weeks

unless you specifically refresh them to give them another 2 weeks

[uncut viper]

looks good to me

[stray hemlock]

There are 16^(10^5) possible links.

[rough lake]

I'm going to cry

[hard fern]

The top is correct

You still have a random w on the bottom

[uncut viper]

remove the w and try running SMAPI again

[rough lake]

ops

I think that was it.

[uncut viper]

okay, to clarify my earlier statement since its important here now: SMAPI uses a specific JSON library that has its set of rules, and these are not strictly identical to standard JSON rules

[rough lake]

XD

[uncut viper]

your text editor thinks its an error because its using the wrong rules

but SMAPI will not see an error

[stray hemlock]

The error might just be because there's a comma there, which usually isn't allowed but for us it's allowed because we don't like rules.

[rough lake]

I'll see if it works.

well..

[rough lake]

The dialog box now works, but the textures are now failing.😭

[stray hemlock]

Were they failing before?

[hard fern]

I saw in your json that you're loading Characters/Fang but that won't change Sam

[rough lake]

The textures worked fine before.

https://smapi.io/json/none/462091a2d6be4098ab265407a2cddf62

[uncut viper]

Forsy is correct. You're changing Sam's display name, but his name in the internal files has not changed, so you still need to write Sam's name for things like the portraits and sprites

[rough lake]

That's how it used to work

So, I have to change the name of the PNGs?

[hard fern]

Used to work, as in?

What were you doing before?

[rough lake]

Sorry, my English sometimes fails.

[uncut viper]

no, you need to change Characters/Fang and Portraits/Fang back to Characters/Sam and Portraits/Sam respectively on lines 13, 18, 23, and 28

[rough lake]

I mean that before I changed my JSON it worked fine, but only to change the textures

[uncut viper]

the NPC is still Sam, so all of his files and things will still use the name Sam. You're just telling the game to show a different name in game in things like dialogue boxes

[rough lake]

So if I need to change the name of the PNGs

[uncut viper]

the name of the .png files does not matter

[rough lake]

Because of the name of the original files?

aaaaaa

[uncut viper]

i am only talking about the Target lines

[rough lake]

aaaaaaaa

okey okey

Let me try

[uncut viper]

{
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Characters/Sam",
      "FromFile": "assets/Characters/Fang.png"
},

like this

but fix all of them not just that one

[rough lake]

https://smapi.io/json/none/2cd49ad347cd4634a4386be4daad7f73

Is this okay?

[uncut viper]

that should work

[stray hemlock]

I'm way too slow at typing to ever type a proper answer in time.

[elfin kindle]

The game uses two types of "names", the internal name which the game uses to call on a character in events and such (aka it's just internally for all the coding), and then the display names are stuff that you, the player, see in the text box and dialogue. While you changed the display name to Fang, the name used by the game to call on the character is still Sam.
I got very confused in the beginning with this personally

[stray hemlock]

It's kinda like a phone book but for textures. The game will first search for the name of the current character and then pick the texture that's written there.
The easiest way to get new textures in the game is to replace existing ones. To do that, we make a mod that "hacks" the phone texture book and gives the game different textures when it looks up certain names.
For example, if your goal is to replace Lewis' portraits, you target his name in the phone book (Portraits/Lewis) and simply "hack" your portrait in there so that the game will pick that instead. And that hack is the path to your file.

That might have made it more complex, I'm sorry.

[autumn tide]

hellooo can you put a token in the when thingy of another token?

[lucid iron]

Is this a dynamic token

[autumn tide]

...uhhhh yep!

[lucid iron]

You can indeed use a DT in the When of a following DT

Order is important

[vagrant grove]

Anyone with a decent amount of SMAPI/harmony experience want to help me maintain Better Junimos? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2221
https://github.com/hawkfalcon/Stardew-Mods/tree/master/BetterJunimos
I can give you a LOT of DP.

[lucid iron]

What is the source license of the mod?

Ah MIT nice

[vagrant grove]

MIT probably

[lucid iron]

Yeah i just didn't realize this was 1 folder in

I thought this mod still works though what is the concern?

[vagrant grove]

People are reporting lag spikes 🙁

Someone legit reuploaded it with a 'fix' for the lag but didn't tell me and didn't tell me what they changed. Lol

[lucid iron]

Ah that's not good do they have profiler logs for you

[vagrant grove]

Apparently it doesn't show up in profiler due to ~harmony~

"Specifically, every ten minutes of in-game time the framerate dips (in my case from 60 FPS to 40 FPS for 1–3 seconds).
With the help of an AI assistant I optimized the mod (starting from the author's source code on GitHub).
Root cause: the larger you set the "working radius" in the config menu, the more blocks the original SearchHutGrid
double-loop had to scan—its workload grows quadratically, producing the noticeable hitch.
After my patch the drop happens only once, around 6:10 AM, and the rest of the day runs smoothly. Junimos continue to water, fertilize and harvest normally on the farm. (I didn't test the greenhouse since I don't use it, so I can't guarantee they work there.)
I don't know if the author allows this modified version to be uploaded to Nexus, nor how to contact them. If anyone can reach out and ask for permission, I would be very grateful."

[brittle pasture]

yeah tbh I'm not sure if any of those assertions are factual (cuz of AI idk)

[lucid iron]

Big O(n^2)

Well it's hard to do anything when there's no evidence of lag rn but I am curious about it

[vagrant grove]

I have no idea, all I know is that there have been like 100 reports on the page of lag 😂

[lucid iron]

Ah ok that's a stronger argument

But what exactly do you as author want to do here?

Hand it off entirely to someone else?

Get some help with finding and fixing lag?

[vagrant grove]

I'm not sure. Previously, Ceruleandeep took it over completely (and added a ton of cool things) but then they also retired :/

Ideally, find someone to take it over again 🙂

[brittle pasture]

hmm maybe for now you can post an update as such on the Posts page
your mod is under MIT, and the mod page does indicate as such so anyone is presumably free to make their own mod page (idk what you want regarding DP)

[lucid iron]

i am glancing at repo there sure is a lot of cursed 1.5 things in here

[brittle pasture]

(I mentioned this in modded-stardew but maybe part of the lag comes from the exception due to the mod using reflection to access a field that no longer exists)

[vagrant grove]

I'll post that I'm looking for a maintainer and always accept pull requests 😄
I'd allocate 80% DP to mainainer (I want to keep % to Ceruleandeep for their work on it)

The mod is on page 7 of most endorsed all time https://www.nexusmods.com/mods?sort=endorsements&gameName=Stardew+Valley&page=7

[vagrant grove]

It used to be a lot harder to mod the game lol

[lucid iron]

yea i understand that

i would like to yeet BuildingEditor entirely

but first we should find out why explod

the DP stuff really doesn't matter to me i just get annoyed by frequent appearance in #1272025932932055121

[brittle pasture]

(Better Junimos has been a staple of the SDV modding scene since forever and I'd love for it to stay alive even though I shall not commit to doing anything rn cuz of irl)

[uncut viper]

tbh the thought of maintaining it just makes me wanna rebuild my own version from the ground up instead

(not in a competitive way tbc just i feel like it'd be easier to redo it than untangle it)

[lucid iron]

im sorry that u had to come to the 3 most opinionated C# modders in this channel hawk

[brave fable]

make it 4

[vagrant grove]

lol I enjoy it

[tender agate]

agree, I've always had it but dropped cus of all the issues reported outside of lag. nice to see the author pop up

[stray hemlock]

I mean, I do that for my own stuff when I get back to it after six moths, so I can't imagine how much harder it must be to work on somebody else's.

[uncut viper]

introducing my new mod, Subjectively Improved Junimos

[vagrant grove]

It mostly works still 🙂 Just a bit 'o lag and a silly easily fixed reflection call to a function that no longer exists

[uncut viper]

i stand by my words

[vagrant grove]

Could you do the entire thing without harmony now?

[lucid iron]

some parts are still annoying without harmony

but hrm i cant reproduce the lag

[stray hemlock]

Everybody has a different understanding of structure and coding. That's why internal guidelines are so important in organizations and companies. Every code structure that I'm not used to will be "messy" to me, and usually rewriting it in my style makes it easier for me to maintain. And I guess many people are like that.

[uncut viper]

^ that plus as chu says, im very opinionated about how things should be done sometimes

even if i understand the code i might think "this should be done the way i like it instead"

[stray hemlock]

That's what I meant by "messy". If it isn't done the way I like it then it's wrong and out of order and needs a complete refactoring.

This is the second time within an hour where I say something and everything just gets quiet.

[uncut viper]

i just had nothin else to add

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm unfortunatly the same way, one reason why I elected to make my own mod manager and not use Stardrop as a base XD

[stray hemlock]

Just a weird observation I made, didn't think there was any big reason.

[vagrant grove]

Plus, it was originally written by me 7+ years ago and I’m a Java engineer lol

[calm nebula]

Turn the mod over to Pathos

No seriously

[stray hemlock]

Yeah, okay, I take everything back about subjectivity, your code is worse and smells of Java (I haven't even looked)

[lucid iron]

hey they say C# is microsoft java

[vagrant grove]

He maintains like 7 billion mods

[rough lake]

ummm

i need help

again

Okay, it seems everything is working, but for some reason the mod isn't loading Sam's portrait correctly.

[hard fern]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[gentle rose]

I'll take over it! the update should release around 2040, if no unexpected delays pop up

[rough lake]

https://smapi.io/json/none/bd5a08c7c8974c6ba94f7a532c32f33b

[tender agate]

does pathos have time to juggle another mod with so many moving parts?

[rough lake]

The sprite loads correctly, but the portrait does not.

[vagrant grove]

Pathos totally would but I’m not going to let him

[obtuse wigeon]

isn't a lot of the mods Pathos maintains pretty much all automated when they need updating?

[brave fable]

(many of his maintained mods are in a lights-on state where he's just keeping them compatible with the game, so i'd imagine you wouldn't see any performance improvements, just the compat fixes)

(at a guess anyway, for legal reasons i'm not pathos)

[uncut viper]

implying that if the law allowed it, you would be pathos if given the chance

[lucid iron]

hrm so the change from that performance patch is this i think
https://pastebin.com/pFZXKSHv

[vagrant grove]

It’s also pretty heavy on Harmony (which I imagine it would still need even in 1.6)

[uncut viper]

many mods are heavy on harmony

[gentle rose]

no the implication is that blueberry is pathos only for illegal reasons of course

[brave fable]

(imagine the productivity boost)

[stray hemlock]

That's because you're trying load Fang, Fang_Beach and Fang_Winter for the same portrait.

[lucid iron]

i guess a BFS would work better than a iteration since junimos r supposed to work on closer things

tho the decompile makes it hard to tell what's actually supposed to happen here

[rough lake]

The main portrait is the one that won't load; is that related?

[vagrant grove]

Interesting. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was that function

[lucid iron]

ill prob have to go download ever farm to see the lag tho

[vagrant grove]

Though I’m pretty sure I copied it originally from … the game.

[lucid iron]

the game is not known to be optimal

[vagrant grove]

👻

[lucid iron]

maybe u should just pull out the leetcode and hand roll the classic iterative BFS

[stray hemlock]

Basically, Content Patcher tries to replace Sam's portrait with yours, but you gave it three options, so it won't load any. You need to explicetly say that you want Fang_Beach for Beach and Fang_Winter for Winter, otherwise it gets confused. It isn't really smart (it is, just not the human smart).

[lucid iron]

it'll be fun trust

[gentle rose]

not 🔄 known /lh

[vagrant grove]

I wonder if people have modded massive farms and set the radius really really high

[lucid iron]

that does seem to be the thing described

[vagrant grove]

That’d do it lol

[rough lake]

Ah, I understand now, you mean I'm trying to replace the same PNG with my own.

You're right, each SAM file has a different name.

Thank you so much nwn

[stray hemlock]

So you just need to edit Target for Beach and Winter and then it should work.

[rough lake]

FINALLY

[elfin kindle]

YEAAAH!! nice job!

[rough lake]

Thank you all so much for your help

[lucid iron]

at any rate i have seen enough to know that i dont want to touch the spaget further but it prob isn't too much for you to do

• bfs SearchHutGrid, or even just a spiral pattern sorta thing
• fix the one reflection bit right here? https://github.com/hawkfalcon/Stardew-Mods/blob/master/BetterJunimos/BetterJunimos.cs#L246 the OpenJunimoHutMenu method confuses me a lil not sure what's the purpose

im sure if the mod does explode 1.7 it will get fixed

[hard fern]

is it worth beating the dead horse (my npc)

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw, I agree too with BFS)

It's super easy trust me 😛

Oh hey a cat

[vagrant grove]

What spaghetti 🙊

Kidding. Thank you!

[lucid iron]

here's my homework atra /j https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/HaveMoreKids/Framework/KidPathingManager.cs#L174-L218

[brisk wedge]

I think I'm being worried over nothing since I made like 3 mods but how much overhaul did the 1.6 update require for mods? Did people just have stuff ready since they followed the beta?

[hard fern]

eh depends on the mold

mod

[uncut viper]

significant overhaul but yes a lot of people followed the alpha to update

[vagrant grove]

Are you the cat???

[lucid iron]

new cat

[brisk wedge]

There are a lot of cats so probably not

[lucid iron]

cat^3 is elsewhere now

[hard fern]

there are lots of cats

[vagrant grove]

Haha

[lucid iron]

if u wanna see if ur mods just work still in 1.6.16 u can opt into beta branch

#1387907186713301072

this one is really not as bad

[vagrant grove]

Is that soon? 😵‍💫

[lucid iron]

years says mr ape

[uncut viper]

1.7 could be next month and it could be next decade

[lucid iron]

we just know it exist probably

[vagrant grove]

Cool cool cool

[lucid iron]

i think you already did your due diligence by making it possible for others to update if needed

[brisk wedge]

Is there an estimated timeline for 1.6.16 or is it still unknown?

[uncut viper]

there is no timeline for any future update

[stray hemlock]

Soon™

[lucid iron]

1.6.16 is presumably sooner cus no content in theory

it was mainly meant to fix a linux mp bug

[brisk wedge]

Sounds good thanks

[uncut viper]

well i mean obviously 1.6.16 is sooner than 1.7

be a bit weird otherwise innit

[tender agate]

I've seen enough in the community to think nothing is weird /j

[autumn fog]

it will skip 1.6.16 entirely and go from 1.7 to 1.6.17

[autumn tide]

..ngl that does sound fun-

[brave fable]

when it's ready®

which wonderfully means it's never too late to post 1.6 compat updates for your mods

[calm nebula]

Dont worry I'm not planning on doing that

[autumn tide]

oh, you used to make mods?

new atra lore unlocked lol

[brave fable]

tomorrow we'll tell you about the stairmaster 🙂‍↕️

[autumn tide]

my curiosity has been piqued 👀

[dire kestrel]

they made a very lovely spam mail mod

[autumn tide]

why are y'all dropping cryptic hints like cmon tell me the LORE
-# yes i am very lonely now SPILL THE BEANS

[elfin kindle]

Hehehe i don't think people usually just loredrop to every new active modder ;P

[autumn tide]

trueee but i crave the information

[calm nebula]

#making-mods-general message

[autumn tide]

tyyyy

huh, surprisingly recent

i was expecting shit from 'back in ye olden days' LOL

[elfin kindle]

Isnt tha rude? ;P/j

[vernal crest]

@elder kite Yo, have you considered adding "- Recolor Mod" or something to the mod name on Nexus for Terrane? I've been looking for recolour mods on Nexus lately and yours didn't show up at all because of how rigid Nexus's search is.

Atra is extremely old

[modest dagger]

u can't just say that aba smh

[vernal crest]

Sooooooooo old

Dinosaurs were still around when Atra was born

[autumn tide]

nahhh i like bullying ppl /j

[elfin kindle]

Hm i remembered that i was suppose to add my NPC's festival info to Pillow's fantastic map site but i can't figure out....how...

[modest dagger]

y'all ever in the middle of making a mod then suddenly you just... no no i want to work on ANOTHER one idc this one isn't done

[autumn tide]

yes.

in fact..

[dire kestrel]

so many times

[autumn tide]

one might say...

FUCK i can't find it

[elder kite]

ye i should

[autumn tide]

i'm gonna cry- /j

[elfin kindle]

I don't allow myself to work on more than one mod or mod content at a time or i'll go crazy

[autumn tide]

..the scope creep stickbug istg it was here-

[autumn fog]

i have so many wips and only 1 mod published

[autumn tide]

still, one mod published is somehting!

[autumn fog]

yea :D i was pretty proud that it acually worked lol

[modest dagger]

i have 9 but one of them seriously flopped hard 😭

[autumn tide]

aw :(

[autumn fog]

and i have learned soooo much since i started modding

[autumn tide]

anything in particular you could use help with?

[modest dagger]

nah it just didn't take off

[autumn tide]

gotcha

[modest dagger]

therefore i am returning to my meat mod

(probably, I might break and do pasta)

[vernal crest]

Wiz, the only one of your mods that doesn't have more downloads than either of mine was released just two weeks ago

[elfin kindle]

I just finished fixing some bugs but now its super late and i dont know.... what else to do. My bf is gaming with a friend and hogging the bedroom so im not inclined to go to bed yet-

[vernal crest]

Stop being so hard on yourself, buddy 🫂

[modest dagger]

but it's so easy!

[sly lantern]

hey guys can someone publish a mod on the showcase for me plz?

[autumn tide]

oh also, can i ask for some plot idea help?

[autumn tide]

i can!

[vernal crest]

That doesn't mean it's right!

[sly lantern]

I just published a mod for a new shed layout
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40234

[sly lantern]

tysm!!

[autumn tide]

published! congrats :)

[modest dagger]

desert festival foods set the bar too high for me. Maybe the people simply desire more food

[elfin kindle]

Oh yeah some stuff is just posted at the wrong time, should never put your own worth based on your downloads. But people do love food

[modest dagger]

anyWHO what you mean plot ideas claude

[autumn tide]

OH SHIT when you said 'flopped' i though you meant the idea and not the mod's popularity 😭 noooo don't be harsh to yourself

[elfin kindle]

I've been tempted to look at making a reskin/recolor, pixel art has been real fun

[autumn tide]

OH onr sec..

got a random idea but i didn't feel like formatting it for my mod doc so i just spewed my ideas into my mod thread and i want opinions lol, all levels of critique #1435357722114523218 message

[autumn tide]

...if you want to....... (i despise spritework LOL)

[elfin kindle]

whassup? :P

[inner harbor]

I havent played properly in a few months but its been playing fine on my farm. Probably cos i dont have a lot of crops.

[inner harbor]

Jasper performed pretty poorly at first and now hes much higher ranking in the NPC mods. Sometimes it just takes time

[autumn tide]

seethes in portrait template mod being similarly popular to my ACUTAL portrait mod

[hard fern]

a specific portrait mod will be for only fans of a certain character, whereas a portrait template can be for a wide range of people. i woudn't say it's something to beat yourself up over

[autumn tide]

i knowwww but it's irritating

like cmon.. really? i'm glad my shit could be helpful but my actual mod was wayyyyyyy more work

[vernal crest]

That is how it goes

[autumn tide]

[vernal crest]

I speak not from experience, not having any popular mods, but lots of other people have said that they have lower effort mods that are more popular than their high effort ones

[modest dagger]

(me with the meat mod i'm not bitter)

[autumn tide]

to be fair, you work with bog, and their mods are really popular!

[hard fern]

i speak from experience of posting a shitpost meme online that surpassed my actual posts in likes lol

[elfin kindle]

I think it's okay to feel bummed about it, i mean it's a totally understandable feeling but it's one of those things you gotta acknowledge and allow yourself to feel but move on ^^ You made something, an amount of people loved it and thats cool in it of itself. Buncha people don't even get that far

[hard fern]

i don't really make very popular mods to begin with so there's nothing for me to say there

[autumn tide]

awww ty! i'm alr really, but it's irritating lol

[elfin kindle]

Yeah i gotcha, i'd feel the same in your position i won't lie lolol

[vernal crest]

Yes, Bog is very popular! And I love working with her. But nobody downloads her mods just because I worked on them xD (And that is ok - I am not unhappy about my place in the modding community at all. I have done a very good job learning to focus on what will actually make me happy rather than on download numbers.)

[autumn tide]

oh also you're gonna be the reason my dwarf portraits mod has an 'extra anime girl blush' config LOL

[elfin kindle]

I mean i mentally thank all the template makers i've ever referenced and used very often, just mentally

[hard fern]

XD

[autumn tide]

i am not joking i have coded it i just need to edit the images

[modest dagger]

what about when the thing that makes you happy is partially making a mod then moving on to another idea 😭

[tiny zealot]

i try not to worry about the numbies too much, but it is sometimes disheartening to see what things get lots of traction because i'm mostly not interested in making those

[elfin kindle]

Glad to hear that! You have a huge impact on other modders, i even had someone reference how you helped them with a portrait replacer mod for my NPC in my comments hehe

[autumn tide]

just scope creep in peace, knowing you may not complete your mods, but have achieved happiness ✨

[hard fern]

i like having ideas but a lot of times the more the idea becomes real the less i actually like it. doesn't matter how much effort i put into it, it just... stop becoming so appealing to me, idk.

[vernal crest]

Then do that!

[hard fern]

i guess i just like the unattainable more than my idea actually being real

[modest dagger]

It's like I get the art done and then i'm like 'hmm, GOOD ENOUGH' then move on

[elfin kindle]

I can't tell people too indepth about my ideas if im still in early stages because if I get the dopamine from someone going "wow thats so cool!" and i get to just rant about it then i loose all interest in actually making it

[tiny zealot]

but the real depressing thing is finding out that a shocking percentage of my mod downloads are due to being included in a big NSFW collection (my mods are worksafe. the collection is a big all-in-one that includes lots of worksafe mods)

[autumn tide]

this is strangely profound for yapping about scope creep-

[autumn tide]

i mean- actually getting the art done is def one of the hard parts for me

[uncut viper]

its a common thing for people in fandoms that have big creative spaces like modding or storywriting or things like that for people to say "dont worry about the numbers! do it cuz its fun and makes you happy (:" but i see less often people mention that its also perfectly valid and human to want and seek attention and validation and to be disappointed when you dont get it. but if it helps, i often like to focus on the audience i do get with my things (modding or otherwise) and think about how to those people, it doesnt matter how many other people use my thing, because they use it and they love it, and thats pretty sweet

[autumn tide]

mhm! ngl whenever i get good feedback in my mod's comment section i just melt in happiness

like 'AAAAAA PPL LIKE IT'

[autumn fog]

the npc mod im working on rn, i dont think many people outside of this fandom will want to play it but ive been liveblogging my progress in a thread with the like 3 people that wanna play it, and im excited for them to be able to :3

[hard fern]

i always feel surprised when people actually like. like my mods. idk. it's a weird feeling to be acknowledged so directly.

[autumn tide]

aaa that's so fun :)

[autumn tide]

yeah, modding can feel so.. personal and private in a way

[hard fern]

well it's not really that

for me anyways

[autumn tide]

oh?

[elfin kindle]

100%! The need to push away percieved negative thought patterns rarely help. It's okay to acknowledge and be aware of why you do something, even if it's for "selfish" or "attention seeking" reasons, i do that all the time lololol i got into art cus adults said i was good at it ;P

[hard fern]

i think it's just that i end up surprised that people like my own mods more than I actually do lol

[autumn tide]

flashback of my entire childhood

[elfin kindle]

I get so overwhelmed in a positive way when people come back just to leave a comment about the story or character, like damn you felt like you needed to tell me?? thats amazing

[tiny zealot]

it is indeed wonderful when someone goes out of their way to tell you that you did a good job

[elfin kindle]

I can get a little overwhelmed in a negative way also when i realise that people are talking about my mod in circles i have no way of being aware of, or seeing people have reactions (even positive ones) i wasn't prepared for. But im also not a very emotional person so when people seem to have so many, i can get a little stunned lolol

[hard fern]

i feel a little bad for maybe derailing the convo but...

[autumn tide]

most of my hobbies have origins like that lol, modding is kinda special for me in that aspect bc, even though i always loved storytelling, no one liked my writing whatsoever (till like very recently where I'm in a sphere to share it with like-minded ppl)- and ik that sounds sad but it's somehow freeing knowing that i write for my own joy, rather than the pride of other ppl

[hard fern]

how do you guys actually make mods you like

[uncut viper]

over a lot of time

[elfin kindle]

Hell yeah! Sometimes you just wanna do your own niche and you gotta find people in that same niche ;P

[modest dagger]

make something -> get positive feedback -> suddenly like what I made -> repeat

[autumn tide]

hm, i honestly just adore my characters, and there's v little krobus/dwarf content, and i'm happy to provide that to the like 8 dwarf/krobus fans out there

also just knowing there's an audience-

[modest dagger]

i do definitely chase the numbers though

[elfin kindle]

Aaaah I decided i.... wasn't a huge fan of what was on the market already so i thought "what would I want in a mod like this?" and then started slowly building it up. But im an NPC maker and not any other kind of modder so it's less abstract for me to make something i like

[autumn tide]

like another user mentioned being really excited about my mod idea a few months ago- and honestly it's just such a huge motivator

[tiny zealot]

"oh, that's a funny idea. i can make that happen" -> "this is coming along nicely. they'll get a kick out of this" -> "wait, it turns out i was the target audience all along"

[elfin kindle]

I have a couple comments i figuratively want to frame on my wall

[autumn tide]

yeah same here, the character stuff is what draws me to modding

[autumn tide]

same omg-

[elfin kindle]

Yeah, it's super cliché but making what you're missing/want is the biggest/"easier" motivator

[hard fern]

the thing is i do try

[autumn tide]

could you clarify?

[hard fern]

i have ideas and think they're fun

the problem is like. idk modding just feels so hollow to me. i derive no joy from it, and once it's done, i go "well now what". Even the npcs ive tried making that i thought were fun ideas, they just go nowhere because i don't like them.

[autumn tide]

aw :(

hm..

[hard fern]

and it's not that I dislike it, but i just don't feel anything

[modest dagger]

most my early mods are just me going 'hmm this is missing so i will provide it' like craftable qi seasoning, or another way to get radioactive ore, or purchasing stardrop tea

[autumn tide]

hmm, what sorta mods do you make?

[hard fern]

eh, odds and ends

i don't really dedicate myself to "one type" of mod

[autumn tide]

gotcha

[hard fern]

i just make things that i get ideas for, whatever they are

[autumn tide]

if you don't mind me getting really philsophical about it, why do you keep modding?

[elfin kindle]

Eh, sometimes you start something and do it for as long as it's fun, once it's fun you move on. You don't HAVE to finish anything, it's a hobby. Not every hobby has to provide fans/money but in modern days, everyone is monetising their hobbies so ik people have started thinking you have to have a hobby in a certain way

[tiny zealot]

"what sorta mods do you make?"
(looks uneasily at nexus profile) great question!

[hard fern]

there's no specific reason, i just want to.

[autumn tide]

in a genuine 'what keeps you going and therefore you might benefit from focusing on' way

[elfin kindle]

I've started so much that i never finish, it was fun while i was at it though but i've given up on beating myself up for never finishing anything

[autumn tide]

yeah, sometimes i just view myself from on outside 3rd person perspective like I'm a character or something, like 'awww look at me now starting another project I won't finish I'm so endearingly stupid-'

[autumn tide]

gotcha

[elfin kindle]

PFFFt that's one way to look at it! Whatever keeps you kind towards yourself, dude

[autumn tide]

LOL it may be the dissociation- but positivity is positivity 🤷

[elfin kindle]

I went the "fuck capitalistic socialmedia driven pushy monetisation of everything, I'm tired of having to sell myself just to succeed grrr" route and stopped beating myself up out of spite LMAO It's tough as a game artist though-

[autumn tide]

hm, is there a favorite part of modding you have? you seem really engaged with the community, maybe that might be what drives you?

[hard fern]

nope lol

[autumn tide]

oof okay-

[hard fern]

i dont have a favorite part or anything like that. i really just do it because i can and i want to

[autumn tide]

mhm

[elfin kindle]

good a reason as any lolol

[hard fern]

but it's hard to finish larger projects when i myself don't like it enough to tough it out and finish it

[elfin kindle]

yeah also fair

[autumn tide]

hmmm, what do you like about the media you consume that helps you stick with it?

[elfin kindle]

buddy modding help some, both for motivation and "accountability" to finish

[autumn tide]

oh def, that's one of my biggest motivators!

[hard fern]

uhhhh....... how am i even supposed to answer that lol

[autumn tide]

sadly a lot of my modding ppl have dropped off the face of the earth-

[autumn tide]

idk- i tend to be very analytical and self-aware so....

uhh

god idk how break this down-

[elfin kindle]

its hard to stick with it sometimes, i mean i haven't been in here for a whiiile. I was hyperfocused on finishing my mod and i didn't need any help so forgot 💀 balancing socialising and work/hobbies are difficult

[autumn tide]

i mean i've been in a near-constant state of hyperfixation on my mod since august.. i hyperfixate HARD

luckily for my biological needs it's only once a every few years but holy shit when it starts-

[vernal crest]

I didn't let myself hyperfixate

Which is why I am still here. Otherwise I would've been a brief blip here in May 2024 and then gone by June lol

[autumn tide]

i.. cannot exactly control hyperfixation- tbh my plan is to finish my mod and then just retire-

[elfin kindle]

PFFFT so fair

I'm open to making more NPC's, people have asked but i hold the reservation that i have to be motivated to make a characters. I won't ever force myself to make one just cus people ask lolol but i think that's pretty fair

[autumn tide]

so yeah as soon as it releases (..in like 5 months or some shit) i'll prob just disappear in a dramatic puff of smoke or something and return occasionally

[elfin kindle]

People also asked me to make a discord and while im flattered im like... wh.. why? I don't get the point, so i've just told peoeple to message me on insta or blsky

[autumn tide]

or remain in a state of upkeep and scope creep-

[autumn tide]

yeahhh that's a lot

[autumn tide]

i could make you a thread on here if you want!

i have the role

[elfin kindle]

Can't, dude, people can't talk about the mod in here still lolol

[autumn tide]

?

[modest dagger]

adult content

[autumn tide]

OH

OH YEAH

i should be in bed rn-

[vernal crest]

I couldn't when I was younger but I can now. I don't mean that I control my thinking about it or whatever. I just forced myself to take breaks, do other things, eat, sleep, etc. It interrupted the constant focus and slowed me down so I didn't burn out.

[elfin kindle]

Nothing explicit but dark and enough to not be on here lolol

[autumn tide]

[vernal crest]

I hate hyperfixating on things I actually care about because hyperfixation aways makes me abandon things. So I fight it.

[autumn tide]

..anyways i'm gonna go to bed rn- also jonson isn't it like 4am for you..?

[vernal crest]

I allow myself to hyperfixate on other stuff, just not modding.

[modest dagger]

a constant battle stay strong soldier

[elfin kindle]

shhhhhhhh my bf has been hogging the bedroom but he just stopped gaming

[elfin kindle]

ah soooo fair and so true

[autumn tide]

i try to too, but damn my brain is sooo rigid

[vernal crest]

I got to my 30s and I was sick of it

[hard fern]

maybe the solution to problems is being in your 30s

[karmic gust]

To a lot of them actually yeah

[hard fern]

the problem is you get more problems in your 30s

[autumn tide]

..maybe maybe

[vernal crest]

Brain problems definitely improve, body problems get worse lol

[modest dagger]

simple solution get new body, frankenstein that shit

[autumn tide]

i already have body problems i'm used to itttt (this will not work.)

[elfin kindle]

Modding was a great way for me to find something meaningful to do when i was in a small crisis with my college and family stuff, so the fixation was healthy. But the month before i posted my mod, i was pushing my online classes tooo close to deadline- I started only allowing myself to start modding after i had gotten my school work done, like a kid PFFFT it worked though but i posted my mod like 2 weeks ago and have been having to catch up to courses since then-

But we're fine! im nearly caught up! It's all good!

[autumn tide]

that's nice!

[elfin kindle]

[autumn tide]

i'm gonna sleep fr now byeeeee

[elfin kindle]

sleep well!

But yeah modding made me feel productive and generally improved my motivation to improve and put effort into other parts of my life, and stuff didn't feel as doomsday, job crises, oh-god-what-am-i-gonna-do when i was actually making something ^^

[urban patrol]

as paradoxical as it sounds, making things creatively makes me feel way more energized and less burnt out, despite it being "more work"

[elfin kindle]

gotta find that balance!

[tiny zealot]

my favorite thing is to solve a puzzle, which is why i find programming so fun and satisfying

"given a text editor and a compiler, produce a program which does X"

[elfin kindle]

i totally get that! I'm not huge on programming but i thought it was fun to find ways to make my idea come to life as close to how i imagined it as possible while working within the framework ^^ I was realy proud of my branching route system lolol

[vernal crest]

Yeah a big part of why I haven't actually finished many projects is because the learning new stuff and coming up with new ways to do things is my favourite part and lots of parts of projects are not that.

[hard fern]

[near island]

are you me

[vernal crest]

I hope not for your sake /j

[near island]

lol

[rough lake]

I have a question

[hard fern]

what is it?

if you have a question don't be afraid to just ask it directly btw

[rough lake]

If I add another line of code like this, can I add, for example, a portrait of Joja Mart to Sam in my mod?

I'm using the code from another mod as a guide

and adds special outfits for Sam

that are not in the game by default

[vernal crest]

You have to use the correct Target because right now you're just targetting his base sprite, but yes.

[hard fern]

it's the wrong target for portraits but

[vernal crest]

JojaMart Sam is in the game by default

That's vanilla

[rough lake]

But I don't know if that's all it is or if there's something else complicated involved.

[hard fern]

well since it's vanilla there's nothing else complicated

[rough lake]

The mod I used as a guide adds summer, autumn, spring outfits, and the default winter outfit.

[hard fern]

does your mod have seasonal outfits?

[rough lake]

Umm, no, not at the moment, but I was asking out of curiosity.

This is basically my first mod, and I only just got it working a little while ago with some help.

[hard fern]

if you wanted to give him seasonal outfits there's a bit more work involved

since they don't exist by default

🤔 there's a couple of ways to do it

[rough lake]

:,v

Okay then, I'll leave it like that.

because I still haven't done the hardest part of the mod

for which I need help

[hard fern]

you could do an editimage on sam's portraits with a seasonal version for when it's x season in game (it's the simplest)
or you could use the new appearances system and give him another outfit set

[rough lake]

I know this process is tedious and 100% manual since I have to extract the characters' dialogue files and find where Sam is mentioned, but I want to replace Sam's name in absolutely all the game's dialogues. Do you know what code or command should be used to make this possible?

[hard fern]

there's no easy way to do that i dont think

[rough lake]

Yah... , I am aware of that.

But I still want to try so my mod turns out well

Could someone help or at least tell me what command or code to use?

I really don't understand anything the wiki says

[hard fern]

🤔 this is what atra had said

oh

fuck

i bungled it

#making-mods-general message

certain editors like vscode can let you search in files for Sam

but you will have to still do an editdata on them

..am i even making sense?

[rough lake]

I have no problem searching for his name, I just don't know how to make the mod replace the word "Sam" with "Fang"

[tiny zealot]

like atra said, replacing every occurrence of sam's name in all the dialogue is difficult to do outside of C#

[rough lake]

For now, my mod can only do this

But if any character mentions him in their dialogue, they'll call him Sam instead of Fang.

[uncut viper]

you have to use EditData to replace every single occurence of his name everywhere in every asset its found in

[rough lake]

ummm are you referring to the following
"Action" command: "EditData",

[uncut viper]

yes, its the page i linked to in that message that explains how to use it

[rough lake]

I'll try to understand it since my native language isn't English, and I'm already a bit slow.

Thank you very much for the information, although if I don't understand, I'm afraid I'll come back to ask for help again.

[light river]

I have a question myself now

[whole raptor]

I'd say good way to learn is find a mod that does something similar and try to imitate and understand what's what

[light river]

I updated my Love of Cooking mod to the newest version but now the blueberry file is missing according to smapi, but I can’t find a blueberry file anywhere online

[hard fern]

🤔

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[hard fern]

?

[light river]

Oh sorry it led me here

Maybe I’m in the wrong Discord 😅

[uncut viper]

you just need to open a thread in the modded-tech-support channel

[light river]

Thank you

[hard fern]

baaaahhh i think im going to give up on marriageable npcs. because the farmer is too much of a wrench in the things i want to write.

[tender agate]

unmarriageable npcs ftw

[hard fern]

well it's not like i want to make unmarriagable npcs for the sake of them being unmarriagable

but the ideas i have for post-married life doesn't mesh well with both the game itself as well as the farmer being such a non-character

so it's just better if you can't marry the npc to begin with

[tender agate]

marriage overhaul mod/framework needed

[balmy valve]

claws way out of ground GASP

chat. i require help again. SMAPI returning "location not found" even though location (NPC house interior) is loaded, has the map file, it's in data/locations, everything

i'm talking "copied over code from a correctly loading location" type stuff

[brittle pasture]

as always post code

[balmy valve]

...I can show screenshots/copy-paste segments but not the whole thing (huge content folder is a mess)

[brittle pasture]

!json whatever you post use this link and not a screenshot pls

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[balmy valve]

the only errors returning are "warp must match the game template" but it does?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a5f54c0ffea442438e80854c8bf63c50

The only location not working is "rowanhouse", everything else loads properly

[brittle pasture]

can you also post your log?

to see the exact error

[balmy valve]

yep, one sec

https://smapi.io/log/356f161427b242079603d0cfad4c6157

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[balmy valve]

here you go

thank you in advance

[brittle pasture]

everything looks correct
are you sure you saved the file in the mod folder

[balmy valve]

yes, 100%

double-checked- it's in my mods folder. saved, patch reloaded, everythin

[brittle pasture]

because I do not see Maps/FallSpice.CtrlAltZero_RowanHouse being loaded anywhere in the trace

[urban patrol]

what do you get from patch exporting your map

[brittle pasture]

or patch export Data/Locations

patch summary FallSpice.CtrlAltZero also helps

[balmy valve]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e0ba4726e6ac48ada9a804b8f478ee2c

[brittle pasture]

huh, it is there

[balmy valve]

[brittle pasture]

and assets/Maps/RowanHouse.tmx exists? apologies for the questions have to be sure

[balmy valve]

yes, it does, im looking at it rn ;c

perhaps if i...close my game...and open it again?

[uncut viper]

did you only add the location when the game was already open and a save already loaded, and then just patch reload?

[balmy valve]

OH IT WORKED

[balmy valve]

yes ;-; in my defense it's 1:17 am rn

[uncut viper]

cant CreateOnLoad if you dont Load the game

[balmy valve]

i understand now. it's all so clear

[brittle pasture]

nice guess lol

[tight rivet]

xzibit would be proud

[balmy valve]

thank you all

[tight rivet]

congratulations, though!

[balmy valve]

idk who that is

[tight rivet]

you've taken another step on the dark art of map modding

https://cdn-useast1.kapwing.com/static/templates/yo-dawg-heard-you-meme-template-full-73419544.webp this dude

[regal pollen]

Any updated tutorials for making farm maps? I haven't done it in so damn long, that I forgot how to actually get the tiles and such to actually start the process

[gentle rose]

I think people typically start with a copy of a vanilla map from the unpacked game files for the initial setup

[heavy pewter]

Is this the right method for drawing a dialogue box? Cuz it's not appearing for some reason

[gentle rose]

have you done all the sanity check things (make sure your method is being called, make sure the else branch is the one being chosen, etc)?

[heavy pewter]

Yeah, the method is working properly, Krobus Shop opens when I have the rusty key, and doesnt when I don't, though the message is not appearing

[heavy pewter]

Found it, it's drawObjectDialogue()

[junior tiger]

Hey, so I have a quick question. If there is an article in the Wiki about that, please send me a link. But many people asked me if my mod is SVE compatible, and sadly so far it isn't. Could you guys tell me how I could make it SVE compatible? 🥺 I assume there would be a whole new forest map that I would have to add the house to?

[vernal crest]

The easiest way to make it SVE compatible is to download SVE, install it, and see what clashes with your mod. It's going to be difficult to do compat without doing that. Not impossible - someone did do it (Lottie with Fleurine, maybe?) but they had to have someone who was willing to test their mod with SVE and then keep reporting back on what was incompatible.

[junior tiger]

So far I believe the main issue is the house. So I'd have to take a look at the new map and find a new spot for the house. But that means I'd have 2 forest maps. 1. Vanilla Forest map + house and 2. SVE forest map + house. How do I go about having 2 maps?

I'll definitely download the mod though and see!

[vernal crest]

Your house exterior is just a small patch onto the vanilla Forest map, right?

[junior tiger]

Yes, exactly

[vernal crest]

Then you should just be able to write a second json patch that shifts the coordinates that your house gets patched to if SVE is installed

It's the same Target. Maps/Forest. SVE just Loads their forest map onto the vanilla one.

[junior tiger]

Is there a guide or a descriptive way how to do this step by step? 🥺 because alone the "if SVE installed" confuses me, because I have no idea how to handle that with a JSON file

[obtuse wigeon]

Does Stardew Access come with it's own screen reader or does it just make the game accessible for screen readers to be able to read?

[vernal crest]

Just copy your json patch for adding your map to the vanilla forest and paste the copy below the first one in your content.json. Then add a "When" field to the second one and use "HasMod": "FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP" as the condition. Then adjust the coordinates in the "ToArea" field to what seems best for use with SVE and go in game to check. The HasMod token is explained here.

[vernal crest]

The latter

[obtuse wigeon]

Thank you!

[junior tiger]

So I don't even need to make a new map in tiled? What about the door warp coordinates? Those are based on the loaded map, aren't they?

[vernal crest]

You shouldn't need to make a new map, no. Not unless you added some of the vanilla forest tiles into your house exterior map, which you shouldn't have.

If you mean door warp from the interior to the exterior, yes, you'll need to change those too. You can use an EditMap json patch with no FromFile to use the MapProperties field to change the exit coordinates if SVE is installed.

[vernal crest]

Whatcha doing with it?

[junior tiger]

As of right now it is interfering like this, so I assume I move a whole house a few tiles down should be okay? I'm not sure what the best practice could be 🥺

[fossil osprey]

You shouldn't need to place grass below the house? 🤔

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah you have included ground tiles. You should remove those from your map patch.

And yeah, moving the house down a few tiles should be ok I think.

[junior tiger]

I tried to go through the house placement bit by bit and gave people whole zip files of the mod to see if things were okay 😭 I wasn't sure what I was doing right or wrong. I made a map of the forest and put the house on top and added stardew files and everything 🥺

[obtuse wigeon]

Currently just having a gander, then seeing if any of my mods need modifying to be accessible, currently on a bit of an accessibility checking streak with other projects so I figure why not also tackle mods aswell

[vernal crest]

Starting with the forest map and placing your house down is a good idea (I hope that is what you mean and you didn't recreate the whole forest from scratch) but you can delete all the grass tiles because your house should just sit on the existing vanilla grass, not add its own.

[junior tiger]

Yes, I did not recreate it from scratch 😭

Like this is what it looks like in tiled 🥺 Did I do very bad?

[vernal crest]

Love it. I've got to go through my mods too now that I've started with mine and Bog's. I've got Stardew Access, trypophobia checking, and now Stardew Audio Captions compat to check for each mod.

[obtuse wigeon]

omg theres a trypophobia and captions mod? I am certainly checking those out!

[vernal crest]

No, you just haven't learned all the tips and tricks yet :) you definitely don't need to have your file be so large. You can crop it to be just the size of your house. And then delete those grass tiles from the Back layer under your house.

[junior tiger]

Oh I have no clue how to crop maps in tiled 🥺

[vernal crest]

Barley made the captions mod! There are a few trypophobia mods for specific things but not an overall one - I'm not even sure how something like that would work lol

[vernal crest]

That's ok you can google it :)

We've got a mushroom based on the Morel in Monster Mash so I want to see if Bog is willing to do an alt sprite for trypophobia safety. The other mods I just try to check if there's anything that would trigger it and then specify in the mod page if it's safe.

[obtuse wigeon]

Oooo I shall check out Barley's nexus page in that case, I'm only aware of the modlist exporting mod, as for trypophobia I don't think theres really an easy way to do it besides writing EditImage patches but at least thats easy to do with CP alone XD

ye the morels are certainly one that I'm not keen on because of the weird holey design XD

[vernal crest]

Yeah I've got mild trypophobia myself. Not enough to need any alt sprites for the game, but enough that I feel icky if I google trypophobia because it always gives pictures of what triggers it!

[lucid iron]

It's been on back of mind for ke to check stardew access compat but

[junior tiger]

For the Json, so far, is this correct though?

[lucid iron]

I have tendency to optimize for less to no text instead

Translation hard

[vernal crest]

Looking good but you will want to change the PatchMode to Overlay probably because otherwise when you delete your grass tiles it will just be black

[junior tiger]

Found it 🙂 on both, I assume?

[vernal crest]

If you ever want me to check your mods with Stardew Access for you Chu let me know.

[vernal crest]

Yep that's right. The change might cause some other strange things to happen, like having a bush appear partly on your house, so you'll have to check those and then make some edits to your map to make sure those things get fixed (I can help with how, if you're not sure).

[junior tiger]

Let's check and see what happens first and then I'll report back 🙂 (I thought if a bush or tree appears growing through your house, you should edit it out from the path layer)

[vernal crest]

Usually, yes, but sometimes there are things that aren't on the paths layer because they're not interactable. Hopefully you won't have any issues though.

[junior tiger]

I have good news and bad news 🙂

The cropping did indeed work and there are no leftover grass panels! Yaay!

Now uh, the bad news

[fossil osprey]

Looks like both patches are being applied at once, for starters

[junior tiger]

Do I need to put a condition onto the vanilla forest map as well? Because I think it's doing both

[junior tiger]

Yes, it appears so

[vernal crest]

Oh yes haha sorry

[autumn tide]

Ooooh that looks really cool!

[junior tiger]

Does it XD? It looks like pure chaos to me

[vernal crest]

The other one needs to be "HasMod |contains=FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP": false

[junior tiger]

Got it, that makes sense

[autumn tide]

I like pure chaos so 🤷

[junior tiger]

Honestly, based! Normally I'd feel that, but when I try to make an experience for other people I'm super strict 🥺

[vernal crest]

And for the trees and things, I think you might need to do a MapTiles edit in the json to delete the paths layer tiles on Maps/Forest because presumably you'll want to get rid of some of the trees and bushes around the outside of the house as well as the ones directly in the house.

[junior tiger]

A MapTiles edit in the json? 🥺 Wha? So yes, the trees definitely need to be gone, but also, how can I change the guys spawn location? Aren't the warps set in Tiled?

[elfin kindle]

That's a smart way of doing it, I just put the clear path tiles where I didn't want stuff to grow on my map patch-

Ah and to get rid of trees and bushes, you'd have to start a new save is what i learned as well ^^

[vernal crest]

I was also going to suggest that but then the map patch has to be bigger than it currently is to account for the ones several tiles away. Not the end of the world but not as clean as I'd like.

[junior tiger]

I believe I'd just have to do the same "has mod" with the door as I did with the map?

[junior tiger]

This is a new safe file 🥺 only problem is what if people load my mod into pre-existing safe files? Then it would be the same issue

[vernal crest]

By spawn location you mean where they end up in the forest when exiting the map?

[vernal crest]

Suggest they use Reset Terrain Features to fix it

[junior tiger]

No, more like where they end up when exiting their house 🥺 because right now they show up in the middle of the wall (makes sense as that is where the door used to be)

[elfin kindle]

I've had issues with the clear path method anyways tbh so I'm thinking i might look into your method too. Doesn't hurt to have both anyways lolol

[junior tiger]

Reset Terrain Features in what way? With the debug tool? Should I add that to my nexus mods description?

[elfin kindle]

I haven't had any issues with people using mine in pre-existing, i just know i was hitting my head against my keyboard when stuff didn't work but then it turned out it was cus i needed to start a new save ^^"

[vernal crest]

Oh that's interesting I'd have thought your LockedDoorWarp would be in the . tmx file itself. But yes, you can just make a second patch with the same when condition.

[vernal crest]

That's the name of a mod. And yes, suggest it on your mod page.

[vernal crest]

Sorry I meant when they leave their house map. And I already told you earlier how to fix that.

[junior tiger]

I did it as the the walkthrough suggested 🥺 which was to add it in the json

[junior tiger]

Got it, will add that!

[vernal crest]

It's fine! It means you already have a patch you can use to edit the paths layer because that uses MapTiles too.

[elfin kindle]

Sometimes it lets you do that, sometimes it doesn't. I've had times where i need it in both files, or only in json OR only in tmx.

[vernal crest]

It should always let you. If it didn't, it means you're doing something like trying to use the mod id token inside the .tmx or something.

[junior tiger]

I do start a new save file every time I test my mods, this time as well so 🥺

[elfin kindle]

I've had someone else say it doesn't translate from .tmx files so i think..... I'm just confused in the end. My stuff works anyways ^^"

[vernal crest]

Yeah, the reason yours isn't clearing is because the paths layer still has spawn tiles on it. Once you've done your MapTiles patch to remove them, they will go away.

[elfin kindle]

Then you're fine! :) You'll see when it works

[vernal crest]

Oh you're thinking of map properties using EditMap, which don't transfer. LockedDoorWarp is a tile object and they do.

[junior tiger]

I'm still a bit confused about this one. Could you possibly tell me in a bit more detail how to employ the map tiles patch? Cuz my path tiles are empty

[vernal crest]

Hmm that was not a clear way for me to explain it. Map properties in the .tmx do not transfer when the .tmx is patched into another map using EditMap.

[elfin kindle]

Oooh... Okay i'll store this away in my brain, I'm tempted to make a neweer map tutorial to store all the stuff i've learnt and the stuff i was missing when working with maps

[elfin kindle]

Ah okay i think that makes sense! I'll come bother you again perhaps if i ever make the tutorial ^^"

[vernal crest]

The MapTiles patch is in your json, it doesn't use your .tmx file at all. Let me get the link to the docs for it. In the meantime, go and look at your LockedDoorWarp in the json. See how that's in a MapTiles field?

[vernal crest]

Feel free. I know a lot about maps

[elfin kindle]

Oh hell yeah, I need someone who knows maps. I'll dm you directly if i need, if thats okay? ^^

[junior tiger]

Yes, there is a MapTiles field

[vernal crest]

Sure, my DMs are open :)

[vernal crest]

Okay, you're going to use the Remove field to remove the tiles from the paths layer on the forest map. Not on yours. https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md#edit-map-tiles

[junior tiger]

So I remove the paths layer?

[vernal crest]

Not the whole layer. Just the tiles that are causing those trees and bushes to grow on your house.

You will need to open the SVE forest map in tiled to see where they have them placed so you know what coordinates to remove.

[junior tiger]

Oh, there was a way to unpack all the Stardew Files. Does it just work with mods too? Do you have it on hand real quick? Otherwise I'll just look it up real quick

[vernal crest]

You don't have to with mods, they aren't in .xnb format

They're in the same format as your mod. Just go into the folder and open the files.

Once you find it, you'll probably open it and find that it has lots of errors and red cross marks

[junior tiger]

Okay, got it, found it, understood!

[junior tiger]

Yup, just click "fix stardew tile sheets"

[vernal crest]

Unless I made you get iro's tilesheet extension last time

Oh I did??? Hooray!

[junior tiger]

Of course! You're always 2 steps ahead 🫡

[obtuse wigeon]

(free advertising! XD)

[junior tiger]

The only thing now is the right formatting for the "remove" action

[vernal crest]

There's an example on the CP docs

[junior tiger]

You sent me this one from the Docs (unless it is the wrong one), it doesn't show a snipped of Remove specifically

[vernal crest]

If you mean just for how to use the Remove field, it already tells you

It's just a true/false field

[junior tiger]

And then set properties and that's where the coordinates go?

[vernal crest]

No, don't touch the SetProperties field

You can see right there that the coordinates are in the Position field

[junior tiger]

Yes

[vernal crest]

So you just need Position, Layer, and Remove

And repeat for each tile

[junior tiger]

and the layer is the "paths" layer then, right?

[vernal crest]

Yes

[junior tiger]

Okay, so real quick, is this format okay? I have a lot of path tiles to delete, so I'd rather ask now before I have to change 20 of them later (also the warning confuses me 🥺 )

[vernal crest]

Looks ok, but you need to test in game before doing the rest rather than relying on what I'm saying because I might miss things.

As for the warnings: one is telling you that you're missing a comma - it should have a line number there, so see where it's saying it's missing. The second one is saying you're missing a closing curly bracket. Check the line number for that one too.

[junior tiger]

That's the problem though

There is a comma

And it says unclosed... while marking the other bracket it is closing

[vernal crest]

Then I don't know. I've never tried doing json in Visual Studio, maybe it does silly things. Try putting the file into the json validator and see what that says

[junior tiger]

It might just do silly things, I'll give it a try in a sec 🙂