making-mods-general

[tepid plover]

i edited parts of certain sprites because i didnt like how desaturated it was, but im not going to distribute that

[vernal crest]

You'll get people being very unhappy with you if you advertise that you're making a mod that really violates what an OG modmaker wants for their mod (usually pretty gross and offensive stuff), whether personal or not, but outside of that I doubt anyone is going to be upset.

[tepid plover]

i also frankensteined someone's xnb hair mods a long time ago into my own hair replacement mod with CP 😭

its fine

[tepid plover]

thats fair

[last badge]

Fair lol I just didnt want to be a rude by doing so. I do plan on talking to the original mod authors if possible at some point and will GLADLY hand over my files if they want to post them. I just wanted to make one giant bundle file to get every portrait in this style to work together >:D

[steel plaza]

can some take a look at this?:https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1b2fac11287c420f8847ed38ef1e874a

the painting thing is not working idk why, im getting tilted lol

there is no error and everything is loading properly, the paint menu is showing but the colors are not changing T^T

[vernal crest]

Are your paint mask images just the vanilla ones renamed? Or did you edit them in some way?

[ivory plume]

There's no PaintColorRegions field; did you see that somewhere?

[lucid iron]

Yeah the mmap feature wouldn't be able to replicate this exactly

I guess what you can do is, use the trigger action version and have a LocationChanged trigger that makes 10 fireflies at select places

Can random the tiles a little bit but it'd all be fairly manual

[steel plaza]

just starting to edit to only be 80x112

[vernal crest]

If your texture files are just renamed vanilla ones it's probably important not to change anything about the paintmasks too.

[steel plaza]

i tried with both the unedited and edited still dont work lol

idk if the one with complication is my code(no error and everything is loading properly) or the game

[left nova]

@ivory plume Is the tree texture supposed to reload on location change? I encountered a problem where the texture in WildTrees reloads like that whenever I put RANDOM GSQ in the Condition field. The wiki doesn't mention anything about reloading on location change, so I assume it is a bug?

[sweet wharf]

So, I'm having a bit of an issue with my content pack that I made, I edited Shane's hair color and I wanted to add the portraits and sprites to the game, but every time I try to load it, SMAPI tells me that my assets folder is empty even though I have the new portraits and sprites, if anyone can help, please do

[ivory plume]

Yep, the game code has trees check for a new texture when you enter their location. (That's mainly to support farmhands, since they can't update all trees across the world on day start.) If you want it to only be randomized on day start, you should use the SYNCED_RANDOM game state query or a Content Patcher When instead.

[ivory plume]

Can you...

• upload your SMAPI log and post the link here;
• and post a screenshot of what's inside the assets folder (with the full path at the top visible)?

[steel plaza]

is this correct this is how i load the paint mask

this is the paint data

[ivory plume]

The paint mask asset name needs to be Buildings/<building type>_PaintMask; does that building have the exact type/ID {{ModId}}_Trailer Cabin (including the space)?

[steel plaza]

is this what you are referring to? the exact type/ID

[ivory plume]

Normally it's based on the type/ID (which is {{ModId}}_TrailerCabin3 there), but technically it's the texture asset name + _PaintMask if you have a custom texture asset name or skin. So if you have no skins, that should be correct.

[steel plaza]

this the thing that i need to change right?

[sweet wharf]

https://smapi.io/log/31d8a223c32b4e1e86b67ad1009a7ba9

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 31 C# mods and 21 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ivory plume]

If you remove the custom Texture field you set in Data/Buildings, yep that would be fine.

[ivory plume]

So the error is:

Skipped mods
--------------------------------------------------
   These mods could not be added to your game.
   - [CP] Shane Black Hair Blue stripe\Assests because it's an empty folder.

Which means SMAPI is trying to load your 'Assests' folder as a mod. Do you have the manifest.json file in the [CP] Shane Black Hair Blue stripe folder?

[left nova]

Well, that's a shame. I just want some of the trees to have different textures, but SYNCED_RANDOM applies the same texture to all of them since they share the same key.

[sweet wharf]

Yes, I have it and I have it with all the required field filled

[vernal crest]

In addition to what Pathos said, your folder is called "Assests" with an extra "s" before the "t".

[sweet wharf]

I just saw that, I fixed it

[steel plaza]

okay i'm having a look through my code:

this needs to have a value right? not just null

[ivory plume]

They don't need to. For example, you can do this if you're editing the asset through Content Patcher:

"Condition": "SYNCED_RANDOM Day tree_{{Random:{{Range:1,500}}}} <chance>"

[uncut viper]

(would this not choose the same random for every tree using this condition?)

[ivory plume]

(Oh right, true.)

[vernal crest]

Can you share a screenshot of your [CP] Shane Black hair blue stripe folder please?

[ivory plume]

No, that's the C# type; it should usually be null.

[steel plaza]

oh ok thanks thanks

last question before i sign off, should the pixel size of the mask be the same as the size of the building texture?

[ivory plume]

Probably, since it's overlayed onto the normal building texture to set which parts of that texture are paintable.

[vernal crest]

Neither of those files are actually json files. They're manifest.json.txt and content.json.txt. Try turning on file extensions and you'll see what I mean. And then once you've done that you can rename them to remove the .txt bit.

[ivory plume]

(To enable file extensions, click View > Show > File name extensions at the top.)

[vernal crest]

I think it's under View up the top but I'm not - there we go lol

[ivory plume]

(I wish Windows didn't hide them by default, I feel like it causes more issues than it solves.)

[vernal crest]

I'm not very familiar with Win 11. Only ever seen it in tech support screenshots.

[steel plaza]

oh ok thanks, thanks for helping everyone, ill continue this again next week lol

[sweet wharf]

I fixed that, but now it's giving me a different error message

[vernal crest]

That is usually what happens when you start making mods. Please share your new log. Not via screenshot - please use the log parser again.

!json However, the issue is that your json syntax is wrong. If you upload it to the json validator it will tell you where the error is. If that doesn't help you can share the link here.

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[steel plaza]

okay i found a mod called "MorePaintMasks" and in the assets folder it hat a .xcf file, what is the file?

[ivory plume]

It's the original GIMP file with the layers and such, which gets exported to the PNG file. SMAPI / Content Patcher will ignore it.

[blissful panther]

(That's a GIMP project fil-

(Damn it, Pathos. Too fast. )

[lucid iron]

Judging atra for leaving that in main mod

[sweet wharf]

https://smapi.io/json/none/ca0f298ed80c444792046a279aa25783

[vernal crest]

You need to add a comma after every closing curly brace } except the last two

[sweet wharf]

I have absolutely no idea what I'm supposed to do to fix the error so, simple terms

[vernal crest]

In case you didn't notice my reply in between yours: #making-mods-general message

[sweet wharf]

I got it to work 🥳

[uncut viper]

so i know the SaveLoaded SMAPI event goes before the SMAPI DayStarted event, but does it... not go before the in-game DayStarted trigger? cuz this trigger action i have is apparently trying to run before the save is even loaded according to SMAPI (and of course failing, because it relies on data collected during SaveLoaded)

[final arch]

(use Visual Studio Code and set it to jsonc in the bottom left)

[uncut viper]

changing it so that instead of using SaveLoaded, i use the specialized LoadStageChanged and do my work when the load stage is "Loaded" (which is right before "Ready" which i assume is equivalent to SaveLoaded?), and it works correctly now, with the trigger action being run after LoadStageChanged but before SaveLoaded. this is like... fine i guess, especially since i think im gonna refactor this to not use either of those SMAPI events anyway, but is it just common knowledge that DayStarted trigger actions run before the SaveLoaded event (which runs before the DayStarted event) that im just only now finding out

[brittle pasture]

peeped around smapi's source and it seems SaveLoaded is raised directly before DayStarted (the smapi event) is

[lucid iron]

but what is the mod hook it's using?

ModHooks.OnGame1_NewDayAfterFade?

[uncut viper]

i know for sure the SMAPI event order is like that, i just also always assumed that DayStarted event = DayStarted trigger, too

[lucid iron]

yea me too

[uncut viper]

but i couldnt even find like, what was calling trigger actions in the middle of save loading functions anyway

(i didnt look TOO too deeply into the games update loop, though... theres a bunch of it)

[brittle pasture]

(we should definitely edit the wiki to add a little more info on when exactly the loading/day event runs, stuff like DayEnding running before newDayAfterFade/etc.)

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6413 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1381292279670636598)

[brittle pasture]

i think this is where SaveLoaded is raised: https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/16234fe5f423901968f0986efccf4e11f2520163/src/SMAPI/Framework/SCore.cs#L834

[calm nebula]

It's so people can make their own paint masks

[uncut viper]

is it even intentional that SaveLoaded happens after the DayStarted trigger though?

[calm nebula]

I kid

I can make more of a build system

[lucid iron]

i been assuming that DayStarted (trigger) happens after newdayafterfade this whole time

suppose its good that u added the morning trigger button

[calm nebula]

Same

[uncut viper]

@ivory plume is this how these SMAPI events are supposed to line up?

[calm nebula]

Is there a way to pass synced random the tree's x and y coordinate

[uncut viper]

i so rarely use SaveLoaded for anything in general, let alone something that must run before the very first DayStarted, so ive just never had a chance to notice before i guess

[calm nebula]

To salt that in too

(Morning pathos!)

[vernal crest]

I helped /lh

[uncut viper]

Aba did help its their bug that made me find this

[ivory plume]

'Day started' means something different in the base game code (where it's used to initialize data for the day start) vs SMAPI mods (where it's used to react to the day initialization being completed). So if you need to initialize something before the game has finished its day-started initialization, you'll need to use a more specialized event like LoadStageChanged.

[ivory plume]

No, the only value passed to the conditions are the location and player.

[uncut viper]

is SaveLoaded meant to come after that day initialization too, though?

[ivory plume]

Yep, SaveLoaded is just a shortcut for 'first day started after the save is loaded".

[uncut viper]

if its intentional and known thats fine, though i hope you wouldnt mind me editin the wiki for the SaveLoaded event to make it a bit clearer

since it mentions coming before DayStarted and people like me might also falsely assume the equivalewncy between trigger and event

[ivory plume]

Well, the wiki says "This happens right before DayStarted" (where 'right before' is meant to indicate immediately before, i.e. the same game tick).

[uncut viper]

but it doesnt say that DayStarted != DayStarted (trigger)

[lucid iron]

yea the smapi event DayStarted and the trigger DayStarted r named same but completely different timing

[uncut viper]

the SaveLoaded event coming before the DayStarted SMAPI event is clear

what isnt clear is that trigger actions that run on DayStarted will run before both

despite sharing a name

[calm nebula]

Hmmm

[ivory plume]

Yep, clarifying that on the trigger actions page would make sense.

[calm nebula]

Could it be passed in?

[opaque field]

If I wanna edit a schedule that would be "Characters/NPC/Schedule?

[uncut viper]

would you prefer i didnt make a note of it on the API Events page as well and only put it on the trigger actions page?

[calm nebula]

Smth like SYNCED_Random %X_%Y

[uncut viper]

(id understand if so, since thats a rather more important page)

"Raised when the player starts a day, after either sleeping or loading" - trigger actions page
(to me, "after loading" would also imply "after SaveLoaded" )

[ivory plume]

I'm fine with making it clear on that page too, but ideally it should clarify that it happens after the game's day-start initialization in general (of which trigger actions are just one part).

(If it helps, SMAPI applies the C# event naming conventions: started means after the start is completed, starting would mean before it happens.)

[uncut viper]

Raised after loading a save (including the first day after creating a new save), or connecting to a multiplayer world. This happens right before DayStarted, but after the game's own day-start initialization process; at this point the save file is read and Context.IsWorldReady is true.
how's that?

[brittle pasture]

like BOBBER_X and BOBBER_Y hmm

[calm nebula]

Exactly!

You'll be doing it before I get home from the gym right?

(Yes, that entire conversation was in between sets)

[lucid iron]

i have great desire for formal syntax with passing X and Y to trigger actions and GSQ in general

[brittle pasture]

if by you you mean me then no you

[calm nebula]

How do I write a mod feature between sets at the gym

That seems difficult

[vernal crest]

Learn to type with your toes

[ivory plume]

I could look into that for 1.6.16. Keep in mind though: the risk of adding a base-game feature to support tree variety is that a future version of the base game might use it, potentially superseding the mod.

[calm nebula]

Something something briar rabbit asking to not be tossed in a bush

[vernal crest]

Ok I stayed awake for the DayStarted drama. Time for DayEnding for me /j

[calm nebula]

(I am in the camp that likes it when the base game adopts a feature from one of my mods.)

It's an honor whenever it happens.

[gray thunder]

Does anyone know what these missing items are

[calm nebula]

Also less work on my side, especially now when I don't have the time to be able to maintain mods reliably anyways

Like.

[blissful panther]

And a "Whew! One less feature to maintain" thing.

[lucid iron]

#modded-stardew , also try lookup anything

[calm nebula]

I'm literally chatting with you guys ☆in between sets at the gym☆

[left nova]

Oh, so there's a chance that tree variety might become a base-game feature in the future? I'm hyped.

[lucid iron]

but u should make ur mod anyways

gonna be a while if it exist

[left nova]

Oh no, I'm just tinkering with that feature, haven't drawn anything yet.

The main idea is making use of Tree Size Framework, which add height variety.

But since the RANDOM didn't work in both TSF and vanilla data, I stopped making it.

[lucid iron]

so if you did sync random, you would be able to random it on a day to day basis i think

[calm nebula]

Tbh realistically what I want is tree variety but persistent tree variety

Ie, this is tree variety 17 and it stays Tay until I cut it down

Yes. It stays Taylor Swift

Variety 17 has glitter boots

[lucid iron]

i guess maybe u can do something silly like

BETAS to write moddata

EMP to use the moddata as a token

or u just PR this feature into tree size framework

[left nova]

From what I tested, SYNCED_RANDOM isn't 'per tree', the texture will change daily, yes, but all of trees will have that texture applied.

[left nova]

I mean, it might be possible.

[lucid iron]

yea i think what you have in mind is closer to the animal skins feature

where the tree entity gets a texture picked on planting

definitely nicest to impl it via C#

[left nova]

Or wait for Pathos to add it as base-game feature.

[brittle pasture]

you can use AT

[lucid iron]

does at support the new trees yet

[brittle pasture]

dont think so

[lucid iron]

[left nova]

I don't think AT support GSQ.

And obviously not Tree Size Framework nor spaceCore animation.

[lucid iron]

anyways do u want this mod to exist i really think it is not that hard n fit for a beginner C# mod

[left nova]

I know nothing about C# (lol).

[lucid iron]

proposal

1. hook SMAPI TerrainFeatureListChanged to add a new entry to modData to record the variant to lock down, it can be an index to WildTreeData.Textures, though it is annoying that theres no Id field to use here
2. harmony patch Tree.ChooseTexture to always pick the variant that is locked down

prob also want some CustomFields thing to decide which variants to random between for a given season

[acoustic compass]

Hello folks! New to modding here. How does someone add more skins/textures to a new farm animal through content patcher?

reading the animal data page on the wiki and I'm still a bit confused

[lucid iron]

farm animal skins are stored in "Skins" under the farm animal entry

is shape like this

"Skins": [
    {
        "Id": "{{ModId}}_Skin1",
        "Texture": "Your loaded texture (or {{InternalAssetKey: skin1.png}}",
        // "HarvestedTexture" for things like sheep
        "BabyTexture": "Your loaded texture for baby (or {{InternalAssetKey: skin1baby.png}}",
    },
    // put more as desired
]

[acoustic compass]

OHHH okay!
I think I understand now

Thank you Chu

also for reference, GSQ means growth stage right?

[lucid iron]

no it means game state query

its a system to check a true/false statement, such as checking what current weather is

[uncut viper]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[lucid iron]

some game data fields accept a string that it will parse as gsq, and usually fields like this are called conditions

[acoustic compass]

writing that down and saving the link, thank you

[patent lance]

@calm nebula: take a look (76h ago)

[calm nebula]

Remind me in 6 hours to take a look

[patent lance]

don't you have like a cell phone or something atravita? it can do the same gosh darn thing and then I can be lazy. but okay, I'm on it. (#6722814) (6h | <t:1749426644>)

[gentle rose]

honestly I wouldn't be surprised if atra didn't have a phone

[devout otter]

Hello! @ivory plume ! I'm led to believe that now is the right time to request features for the upcoming 1.6.16. In that case, I was hoping it could be possible to customize the money counter in shop menu?

[clear turret]

hey gang has anyone ever had an issue w/ macos where jsonassets correctly picks up the content pack but not the actual .json within it? mb if this is not the right chat to ask this in ❤️

[late pewter]

Is there a mod by any chance that makes this guy always appear with the full possible shop stock?

[ivory plume]

Hi! At this point in pre-alpha, I'm mostly focusing on architectural stuff, bug fixes, and small mod requests. Requests like that which would need mod testing will mostly be handled later during the next mod author beta (assuming we have one), so that the change can be tested as soon as it's done (since we don't want to accumulate changes in development that haven't been fully tested).

(I love that crow portrait though.)

[calm nebula]

You could make one. Easily

[brittle pasture]

file names on mac is case sensitive, maybe that
(also I'm obligated to point out that you shouldn't use JA in the modern day)

[devout otter]

Thank you for the answer! I'd bring it up again during beta then (assuming we have one).

[uncut viper]

(you should probably let whoever led you to believe that that there's a ways to go yet )

[late pewter]

I have no idea where or how to begin, and don't want to step on someone's toes if this mod has already been made.

[round timber]

two cakes ☝️

[calm nebula]

Do we want to bet on 1.6.17 or 1.7 being the actual version number

Anywyas

[uncut viper]

are you purposely skipping 1.6.16 or is that a typo

[ivory plume]

(RIP 1.6.16.)

[calm nebula]

I was looking at it for a silly reason - I wanted the crow to have penny's other decor after her event 🙈

[clear turret]

thank you! 😄 was not aware that JA isn't the best to use... what would you recommend using instead?

[round timber]

Content Patcher

[calm nebula]

I can't count lol

[uncut viper]

in that case i think probably 1.6.16

[calm nebula]

I'm betting it will be 1.7

[lucid iron]

I second this and also pls let inventory inherit the shop theme

[lucid iron]

Pathos what if we start a talk page on the migration page for suggestions (perhaps not now but eventually)

[uncut viper]

i would think thatd just be a 1.6.16 mod author beta thread when the time comes

like the 1.6 alpha thread

[lucid iron]

I feel that's easier for you to look at that ppl pinging you at random places in discord

Yes but discord is move kind if fast for this isn't it

Whereas talk page is all sectioned off (usually)

[uncut viper]

it is, but if the entire thread is dedicated to 1.6.16 suggestions and stuff, then its all relevant

also can be limited to actual mod authors

[lucid iron]

tis true

[uncut viper]

one downside i will admit though is the lack of thread search

[lucid iron]

i wasnt around for alpha and we did not have a thread for 1.6.9 so idk what it was like

[uncut viper]

but otherwise imo a thread is much better

[lucid iron]

well pathos can always abuse junimo powers and make a channel if thats the concern

[uncut viper]

thats true

[lucid iron]

it is weird that u cant just search within a thread tho discord pls

[uncut viper]

too busy adding scam vpn sponsorships

[lucid iron]

Idk if i have that many requests that r like, reasonable to implement in a patch version of game

Vs i just go make the mod

[uncut viper]

i am the opposite in that i have one request that i think is so easy to add and reasonable for the base game that i think it does not belong in a mod (aka BETAS where it would go) (its a CompleteQuest action)

[lucid iron]

well i do have more than zero of them some of which happened

[half tangle]

What would this CompleteQuest action entail, out of curiosity

[lucid iron]

CompleteQuest <quest id>

[uncut viper]

literally just calls quest.QuestComplete

or completeQuest() w/e it is

bc the existing RemoveQuest does not do that. it just deletes it

[lucid iron]

it would let you control quest stuff with trigger actions and thus achieve fancy objectives

[uncut viper]

so you cannot manually Complete a quest with trigger actions, which means Basic Quests with freeform goals are not usable via CP

well, you can RemoveQuest the basic quest ofc, but then the player is not notified that its actually been completed

and they dont get money from the quest

unless you do all that stuff manually

(and even if you did, they wouldnt be able to collect it from their quest log. also, they dont get a fancy Ding! sound)

[brittle pasture]

as vinilla mentioned, content patcher. you can read up on the guide on how to use it to edit game data, and then reference the modding wiki to see what the data looks like

[[Modding:Index]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index

[ivory plume]

A wiki talk page isn't really the best way to track requests like that (particularly since I'm probably the only game dev who'd see that page). If it's a small quick idea, I might just add it to my to-do list directly; otherwise the official forums might be a good place to track suggestions for now.

[blissful panther]

I've done evil things.

[iron ridge]

Oh dear

[iron ridge]

How evil is evil

[blissful panther]

First my mods, then I just had to do SMAPI.

[iron ridge]

Thats not too evil
Cool, I would even say

[blissful panther]

https://github.com/AlanDavison/SMAPI/actions/runs/15521581785

Just ignore the amount of test runs it took. It was too many because of this: https://github.com/AlanDavison/SMAPI/blob/09320903c46bfb1aee0ae83f825cfaf0a6ca1160/build/unix/prepare-install-package.sh#L14-L27

...in combination with one little prior test step I forgot I had in there causing it to find the empty "$HOME/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley" path, overriding the GamePath being set by ~/stardewvalley.targets.

But it works. The only downside is the reliance on the reference assembly repo (which is missing a couple of assemblies, so I had to temporarily make another one for testing).

[urban patrol]

someone streamed themselves playing my mod on twitch! i'm very happy but also very scared at being perceived

[blissful panther]

Oh, that's very cool!

Not so much the scared part, but the other part.

[prisma sky]

how can I ensure my loop only continues after temporaryAnimatedSprite has executed and finished?

[latent mauve]

safest way is to set a pause after it

waitForAllStationary exists, but might cause unexpectedly long delays

[prisma sky]

the thing is, it's not bound to the farmer

[latent mauve]

?

Can you give a little bit more context, I'm confused as to what you mean by that.

[prisma sky]

the animation is tied to an npc, but it's not a schedule thing and has it's own code running in the background

[calm nebula]

this is in c#, isn't it

[prisma sky]

yes

[latent mauve]

oh good, I'm gonna let Atra answer then, because that's out of my wheelhouse

[lucid iron]

can you tell us what you want to achieve

[prisma sky]

hold on I might actually have an idea

[calm nebula]

anyways, just assign to the endfunction of your tas

[prisma sky]

huh, seems awfully convenient. Is there any documentation of this? the best I found was tas in events

which only includes the raw fields and flags

[lucid iron]

not really, its decompile

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[prisma sky]

yeahh that explains it, I kinda hoped I wouldn't have to this time

[prisma sky]

it's not something I can initialize in the tas constructor is it? I have to define it right after I create it

[prisma sky]

not exactly the most straight forward without documentation some more context would really help tbh

[twin wadi]

i want to get started learning c#, i do have some experience with coding but not a lot... are there any good online tutorials?

[calm nebula]

!yellowbook

[ocean sail]

A good book for learning c# is https://www.robmiles.com/c-yellow-book

To use this command, type !yellowbook.

[lucid iron]

yea u just set it https://github.com/Mushymato/ExtendedTAS/blob/main/src/TASExt.cs#L134

also in this file is TemporaryAnimatedSprite.GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite which u should use to get the pooled TAS

[prisma sky]

this?

[lucid iron]

yea

[prisma sky]

does it like take the first tas (far as I've seen it's a list) so I don't have to bother with referencing it?

[lucid iron]

a list wdym

[prisma sky]

wait nvm

I was thinking abt something different

what exactly does this do then?

[lucid iron]

its like making new TemporaryAnimatedSprite

but u get one from the pool instead of constructing a new one

[prisma sky]

and what exactly is "the pool"? I also see it in code now and I would like to understand it

[lucid iron]

if u look at TemporaryAnimatedSprite.Pool u can see how it just clears any assigned field values to default

so that it is ready for reuse

to make TAS actually show up in a location u need location.TemporarySprites.Add

(there r other tas lists u can add new TAS to but this is most common)

[prisma sky]

yeah that's what confused me before but I realised

[prisma sky]

so... the idea is that there is only one instance of tas that I'm just changing around instead of creating my own multiple new instances?

[calm nebula]

If you want an explainer

The Microsoft docs on ArrayPool are very good

[inland cedar]

from itemId and preserve index, how can I create that flavoured Item? for example 348 and 454 for Acient Fruit Wine?

[opal oriole]

Hello! Does anybody know how do I make an object appear only during a cutscene?

[sweet apex]

is there a mod i can place torches on top of fences and other items like sprinklers??

[urban patrol]

you can use a temporary animated sprite https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data#Event_scripts

[uncut viper]

you'll want to ask in #modded-stardew

[sweet apex]

did so! thanks

[calm nebula]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58873582/what-is-arraypool-in-netcore-c-sharp

For the theory behind and why you would want to use a pool.

[pine elbow]

Is there a randomizer yet?

[drowsy minnow]

if i want to apply gift tastes to an item im creating how would i do it, like...what would i put in the content json

[lucid iron]

the gift tastes are per NPC

but you can assign some universal ones

[drowsy minnow]

ooo alright thabk u

[plain sphinx]

Hi there! Somebody know how to add AT textures to the Farm Island mailbox? I read in the manual that can be texturized but I failed trying to orz

[brittle pasture]

I think that one's a map tile right

[drowsy minnow]

i think so? personally it would make sense to me

since its apart of the farm house archetype i think

[brittle pasture]

so AT can't retexture it, you'd need to patch the island spritesheet

[half tangle]

Archipelago supports Stardew Valley, apparently, but this is probably off topic for this channel unless you're looking to create a randomizer https://archipelago.gg/

[lucid iron]

you can ask kaito.kid things if you need help with it

[plain sphinx]

I was thinking the same -until I saw it mention in the AT manual- but maybe I misread it ;w; thanks you for your help!

[drowsy minnow]

so much creative flow rn i literally made a pinterest board of inspo for future projects

https://pin.it/2xgimYeNa

[prisma sky]

if I understand correctly in your case "Def" is just a template you defined somewhere else?

[lucid iron]

Def is a data model

but its used to initialize the record here

internal sealed record TASContext(TASExt Def)

ik this code doesnt show it bc it is just a shared project for helper but i get TASExt and init a TASContext

[prisma sky]

data model? whats that exactly? Ik it's no longer even necesary for me bc I see that I just have to pass values into the getTAS method, but I'm curious if you don't mind

ohh is this like the json thing?

[lucid iron]

so to put what this thing is in context

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/docs/temporary-animated-sprites.md

this is a feature where people can make a temporary animate sprite happen by editdata target mushymato.MMAP/TAS with all these fields

after a content mod does all this i can get the values they put in by loading the asset, with the right data model

and then i feed it into a temporaryanimatedsprite

there r actually more fields that i havent defined (TAS has so many...)

eventually hope to cover all the useful things ofc

[prisma sky]

I see, so it deserializes the data that can be easily edited/expanded by content mods

[lucid iron]

yes tho the deserialization isnt done by me but content patcher

from perspective of my mod i am just loading an asset from the content pipeline

[prisma sky]

well I haven't touched CP yet, although I did try implementing deserialization by code I'm yet to actually test this part

[lucid iron]

for smapi modding you can just use newtonsoft.json

but usually u dont actually need to do anything urself

[urban patrol]

https://smapi.io/log/967598c5b9604a53b625111f774c1aea

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6495c655e6b7486fa4498f1ecc3a5efd

anyone know what "Input string was not in a correct format" is referring to? i've only attached one of the two schedules throwing an error because they're p much identical except for coordinates

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 16 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[prisma sky]

yeah that's what I did

[prisma sky]

damned be the awfully convenient tools forcing me to learn them

[opal oriole]

If I want to have a cutscene on a custom map, do I need to do anything besides setting the mod name in the target field?

[uncut viper]

if you're using the content pipeline you're not actually using CP either, things just happen in the background in the AssetRequested event

you'll need to load a blank.json to Data/Events/YourLocationId first before doing EditData on it

but after that its just the same as editdata for a new event anywhere else, just use your custom location id

[opal oriole]

thx!

[prisma sky]

quick question, does the tas use rectangle from xTile or Xna?

[lucid iron]

New framework mod from @uncut viper !

Custom Museum Framework is now released!

This is a framework for mod authors to use to create their own curated item display similar to the vanilla museum. Unlike the vanilla museum, however, Custom Museum Framework offers a lot more flexibility in how your museum is managed, what items can be displayed, and where to display them. Features include but are not limited to:

• Author-defined donation criteria
• Unrestricted item pedestal placement
• Custom item pedestal interactions
• Custom lost books
• Museum quests
• Museum-related triggers, actions, and queries
• Full multiplayer compatibility

Feel free to take a look at the documentation to view everything that Custom Museum Framework is capable of. You're not limited to mimicking the vanilla museum one-to-one here!

tis good right

[lucid iron]

Xna

[uncut viper]

[lucid iron]

usually if u see a Rectangle it's the Xna one not the xTile one but ofc exceptions everywhere

[uncut viper]

thank you chu

[lucid iron]

just dont System.Drawing

[gaunt orbit]

I hate that xtile has all its own special boy structs

[lucid iron]

is xTile actually for Xna

or is it meant to be generic

[gaunt orbit]

I think it's meant to be portable but tide only advertises desktop and xbox IIRC and xna is on both

[uncut viper]

Tiled/.tmx/.tbin itself works with a lot more than just XNA though

so probably good reason to not be limited to xna if you can reasonably avoid it i suppose

[lucid iron]

i thought xTile is actually for tbin

[prisma sky]

An object reference is required for the non-static field, method, or property 'TemporaryAnimatedSprite.GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite(string, Rectangle, float, int, int, Vector2, bool, bool)'
uhhh

[uncut viper]

shrugs

[lucid iron]

https://doc.mapeditor.org/en/stable/reference/support-for-tmx-maps/#c-net

dottile migration when

[urban patrol]

oh hell yeah!

[lucid iron]

did u use the wrong overload

theres one GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite that is indeed an instance method

[prisma sky]

I have to check but it is possible

those darn overloads always get me

public TemporaryAnimatedSprite GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite(string textureName, Rectangle sourceRect, float animationInterval, int animationLength, int numberOfLoops, Vector2 position, bool flicker, bool flipped)``` aha, found the culprit I think

thanks, it would take me way too long to realize that

[fading walrus]

[prisma sky]

well that's just my luck that I managed to stumble on the only one that isn't static

[gentle rose]

quill do you have an entire server for froge

[prisma sky]

is the one I need to use seriously the one with all the parameters of fields I don't use

yummy

[patent lance]

@calm nebula: take a look (6h ago)

[prisma sky]

@lucid iron so I can assume that the pool() values are like "default" ? Since I have to pass all of those and for now I don't have a reason to mess with them

just looking for reference

[lucid iron]

yea things reset to default by pool

however u r using some overload of GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite that sets at least a few fields

[calm nebula]

Merp

When I get home you botto

[prisma sky]

public static TemporaryAnimatedSprite GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite(string textureName, Rectangle sourceRect, float animationInterval, int animationLength, int numberOfLoops, Vector2 position, bool flicker, bool flipped, float layerDepth, float alphaFade, Color color, float scale, float scaleChange, float rotation, float rotationChange, bool local = false)```

I think this is the same one you used

and as far as I see the only one I can use

[lucid iron]

yea but theres a public static TemporaryAnimatedSprite GetTemporaryAnimatedSprite() right

[prisma sky]

oh wait actually I see theres more that could fit

mann

[lucid iron]

thats y u gotta decompile game

[prisma sky]

yeah figures... still overloads are a pain

[prisma sky]

the only one without parameters is the one that resets to defaults... right?

[prisma sky]

okay no this IS the only viable one

Im 99% sure, maybe, positive-

[brave fable]

i don't think you need to worry too much about which param list overload you use for this method, you'll usually end up setting a bunch of fields immediately after

[brave fable]

simply getting an element from the pool will guarantee it's been reset to defaults already; that's handled for you by the pool

elements are reset when they're freed for use, and if no elements are free and the pool doesn't add a new element, an in-use element will be reset and given to you

[brisk wedge]

what information gets saved in a save file? Like if I edit an object's itemid, will that change still be present for the next time i open the game?

[half tangle]

What do you mean by edit an object's itemid? You can create a new object using Content Patcher and as long as your mod is present, then it will be as well.

[brave fable]

the answer is a lot! and it's mostly arbitrary. the only sure way to know which properties are saved is to either open the save file itself and see what's there、or decompile the game code and see which fields aren't marked with [XmlIgnore]

editing the itemid alone might not give the results you want, since it'll have a lot of other data saved from its lifespan, like the price

[brisk wedge]

I guess the context is that I'm in csharp trying to figure how out to deal with autograbber's placement action creating a chest but not setting the itemid

[brave fable]

is this vanilla behaviour, or your own?

[brisk wedge]

afaict the not setting of the itemid is vanilla behavior, i see it in the decompiled code, but i could be looking in the wrong place

[brave fable]

without the code in front of me, I'd imagine it simply calls ItemRegistry.Create("(BC)Chest") or something similar

[brisk wedge]

It does autograbber.heldItem.Value = new Chest()

hm both itemid and qualified item id are xmlignore, how does the game save items? like i would have though youd need that to recreate it on load or something

[brittle pasture]

itemId is serialized

ItemId the property is not

[brave fable]

yep, I should've specified that often there are properties with backing fields、where only the field is serialised

I see what you mean about the chest now though, that's simply used as an item container for all the grabbed items, it's not expected to be interacted with by the player at all

[lucid iron]

I don't think a Chest has to have item id

It probably serializes as -1

[prisma sky]

in the texture name do I have to specify anything other than the file path?

[calm nebula]

Remind me in 96 hours to take a look

[patent lance]

ooo not sure if I can count that high but I'll give it my best shot!!! (#6723315) (96h | <t:1749775491>)

[calm nebula]

Chests visible to the player have ids

There are four vanilla chests

I wonder how extensible it is

[lucid iron]

You need an asset path not a file path

[brave fable]

yeah the game absolutely does id checks on chests in normal circumstances

[calm nebula]

How many cats are in chat at the moment

[brave fable]

but this one's just being used as an accessory to the autograbber

[lucid iron]

2.5

[calm nebula]

More importantly. How many of y'all have cat pictures

[prisma sky]

do I have to load it with helper? I'm seeing somethiing like that

[calm nebula]

Blueberry you can provide blueberry pictures

[brave fable]

oh no, you're not doxing me that easily

[tender bloom]

I ate some blueberries yesterday

Sadly didn’t take a picture

[calm nebula]

Look, you know that I'm a literal orange cat with a power drill

[brave fable]

so you're passing a texturename param to a TAS getter, right? is this a vanilla asset or your own?

[prisma sky]

my own

[tender bloom]

I remember passing a texture to a TAS was weirdly painful

[brave fable]

then you'll need to handle the asset load yourself! either with CP or with an event listener

[prisma sky]

[tender bloom]

I did it in Fireworks Festival

I just had to load it more than felt like was necessary

It’s not that bad, just more bad than I expected

[brave fable]

yeah it is for the actual ctor iirc, but for the pool getter it's fine

[tender bloom]

You can look at my code if you want, Fireworks Festival is on GitHub

Might not be the same thing as this tho from what blueb said

[calm nebula]

I think it's fine as long as you do it before you add the tas to the list

It's in post that make it hard

[tender bloom]

Loading a texture via CP or C# is not hard, to be clear

In CP it’s a simple load action

[lucid iron]

Just do AssetRequested then u good

[prisma sky]

holy parmeggiano I have to whip out another tool and hours just to see a 3 frame animation play out

[brave fable]

forgive the phone code, it's something like

this.Helper.Events.Content.AssetRequested += (object sender, AssetRequestedEventArgs e) {
if (e.AssetName.IsEquivalentTo("my funny asset name"))
e.LoadFrom<Texture2D>("my relative file path");
}```

which you can put in a one-time method like Entry()

[calm nebula]

Don't you have full on mods that are only in mod.entry

[brave fable]

yeah those mods have the same energy as people who live off the grid in a caravan

[calm nebula]

Blueberry, in my heart of hearts I want to be that person

In a van

In the desert

Enjoying a midnight coffee and a book

Between me and that goal however is just a couple million dollars of savings, easy.

[brave fable]

and the slight difficulty of getting coffee and books in the desert

[calm nebula]

Shhhhh

[daring skiff]

This took more effort than necessary.

(autopet pets)

Kids will now have a chance to pet/play with your pets, applying the auto pet flag (fake) that I'm still working out.

[twin wadi]

hi! i'm making an event, and idk how to format this type of question... answer0 will have a response but continues event with no effect, answer1 will have a response as well and continues event with no effect, but answer2 has a fork.

[lucid iron]

Tbf there are easier ways to do animation than temporary animated sprite

Sometimes doing it urself with spritebatch.Draw is all you need

[brave fable]

ah but that won't emit it in multiplayer on its own. plus it's generally good to use what's in front of you

[calm nebula]

Got it. Using my Tupperware and fork

[prisma sky]

I'm not gonna pretend I know whats going on: csharp Cannot implicitly convert type '(object sender, StardewModdingAPI.Events.AssetRequestedEventArgs e)' to 'System.EventHandler<StardewModdingAPI.Events.AssetRequestedEventArgs>'

[brave fable]

oh, maybe you don't need object sender after all

again this is breakfast phone code, not guaranteed to work out of the box hahah

[calm nebula]

Hmm

Is interpreting that wierdly

[uncut viper]

dont you just write (sender, e)

when writing it like that

[calm nebula]

What about

this.Helper.Events.Content.AssetRequested += (_,  e) {
if (e.AssetName.IsEquivalentTo("my funny asset name"))
e.LoadFrom<Texture2D>("my relative file path");
}``

[lucid iron]

Phone coding hours

[calm nebula]

I'm eating dinner chue

[brave fable]

all meals are phone coding hours

[calm nebula]

Not always

Lunch are work hours

[prisma sky]

lol

[brittle pasture]

fixing that is an exercise left to the reader

[prisma sky]

yeah I'm trying to just thought it's funny

[brittle pasture]

I'd contribute but alas I'm on my PC right now so there's a good chance my code will be correct

[twin wadi]

do i just make a separate fork for just the response of answer1?

[calm nebula]

I need to see the full context

[brave fable]

did you try with just (AssetRequestedEventArgs e)

inshallah we shall eventually guess the correct format

[lucid iron]

I always just make the ide give me the right signature

Something about anon event handlers rub me wrong

[brave fable]

yeah sadly we all have intellisense(tm) brain rot

letting ai do all our work without us learning...

[uncut viper]

im taking you guys out of my mod will

[lucid iron]

Button out there writing artisanal smoked handlers

[uncut viper]

id still like to eventually set up in my dotnet template somethin thatll search my assembly for a function whose name matches a SMAPI event and automatically assign it that way ill never have to worry about it again

but im limited to one such dotnet template improvement per mod

[lucid iron]

Button out there selling out the brand to Big Reflect

[uncut viper]

id rather sell out to Big Reflection than have to restart SMAPI again bc i forgot to assign my handler after writing it

[lucid iron]

Dats why i gotta start with the intellisense pls gib signature

[uncut viper]

YourEventHandler(object one, object two)

done

maybe YourEventHandler(object?[] params) if youre feeling spicy

(idk if thatd work)

[calm nebula]

My god button

Please. My heart

[uncut viper]

im very lazy, ok

if i could stuff something like that into my dotnet template in a sane way i would

[calm nebula]

I go away to hang laundry and this is what I'm greeted with

[uncut viper]

im a pioneer

[prisma sky]

question... you guys structure of implementing this is totally different from what the wiki suggests (and VS auto-completes)

[lucid iron]

coding is free

[prisma sky]

so like... why what where and when

[uncut viper]

please do not take my methods ive posted seriously

but the way blueberry initially posted and atra corrected is just different but still valid C# syntax

just a way of assigning a function to an event handler without writing a whole "public void etc etc() { ... }" thing

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/CompactSearchableShopMenu/blob/main/CompactSearchableShopMenu/ModEntry.cs#L42-L54

[uncut viper]

(not just used for event handlers, but in this context it is)

[prisma sky]

I see

[lucid iron]

heres the 1 time i did a load of some textures from mod asset

[rigid musk]

Oh button you released the museum framework mod... now I feel legally obligated to add a museum to my expansion

[uncut viper]

(sad to report this does not in fact work)

[calm nebula]

Feel? You are legally obligated. Subject to §1.5.73.56

[uncut viper]

in my unbiased opinion i agree you should be obligated to do so

[crude plank]

Everyone should be obligated to make a museum now

[rigid musk]

Museum fun time

[brave fable]

in c# there's plenty of ways to skin a (silly) cat - the one above just happened to be the one with the least time spent writing on mobile lol

[prisma sky]

haha I got it, I just retreated to the classic structure and the API docs, I'm gonna crack this tmr bc I'm eepy

[prisma sky]

(works btw)

[brave fable]

typically you wouldn't do that exactly if you wanted to remove the handler later (with -=, because it needs to be assigned to a symbol you can reference) or if the inline right-hand-side delegate definition were more than a couple lines long (for readability)

[uncut viper]

just remove all the handlers from the event

[proper bear]

Im curious does anyone know how to make visual novel style portraits with the dialogue display framework

[uncut viper]

what do you mean visual novel style

[proper bear]

Currently i have just been borrowing the code from the bountiful beauties mod to get it to work in my game

[prisma sky]

the event works, but now I gotta figure out how to actually request the thing

and my poor class structure isn't gonna make that easy

[proper bear]

And I want to figure out how to do it on my own in a independent mod so I dont have to explain why I have a gooner mod in my game to people

By visual novel style i mean what i put in the making mods art channel

[brittle pasture]

it gets requested when you do stuff like Game1.content.Load<Texture2D>("my cool asset name")

[prisma sky]

that seems to easy to be true

[brittle pasture]

then, the content loader will call your AssetRequested function if my cool asset name hasnt been loaded and cached

[uncut viper]

everyone always uses "cool" in their example filler text. always "my cool asset name" or "my cool mod name"
where are the examples that say "my lame ass mod name"

[brittle pasture]

everything I touch is cool because I am that cool

[brave fable]

excuse me i literally used "my funny asset name" for this exact example

[uncut viper]

you dont count bc uhhhhh i didnt see it

😌

[prisma sky]

okay.. now am I to assume that tas already does that once I provide the name?

[brittle pasture]

yes

[prisma sky]

so having the event set up, after providing the name to tas it should somewhat work out

[brave fable]

yep! the TAS will also automatically free itself to the pool when it's done animating, leaves the map, or fades to alpha 0、so you don't need to worry about that either

[prisma sky]

I really need some sleep, thanks a ton guys have great days

[lucid iron]

(what is a gooner mod...)

[uncut viper]

not one to be discussed in this server

[brave fable]

don't you dare

[prisma sky]

you don't wanna know old man

[lucid iron]

ah sexytimes ok

you should ask mangupix about it bc they r preparing a big update of some sort to DDFC

perhaps u can be early adopter to whatever new content format they go with

[brittle pasture]

not related but DDF two caked itself right

[prisma sky]

well tbh gooner is more like nerdy romantic/anime stuff ex. visual novel style, there is a similiar but more direct phrase for such

[uncut viper]

its called mitosis

(... that was at selph just to be clear to anyone who wasnt around to see the messages get sent at the same time)

[lucid iron]

i say DDFC is more of a budding process

[vernal crest]

quickQuestion where answer 3 has a switchEvent command in it

[urban patrol]

bringing this back

[coral trout]

Hi Pathos, I just return from some busy work days IRL to continue the Automate PR weeks before: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/pull/1117

Most logic had been done but I stuck at getting all chest types for GMCM. All the Item in ItemRepo seems to be plain Object (as img embedded, noticed the len of petentialChestTypes is 0 then checked the repo item data)

I have not checked all game code related, guess that chest is Object in player inventory, and wiil be converted into concrete Chest type when set down to ground? So I can only come up with the idea to set down the item virtually to get the concrete type and use for filter(but it's indeed weird, and seems a bug maker) @ivory plume

[uncut viper]

your railroad replacement schedule should just be locationName X Y FacingDirection

its not a replacement for the entire schedule, its just a replacement for that specific piece in your summer schedule

[ivory plume]

Seems the item-to-chest logic is in Object.placementAction, where it's hardcoded by item ID. The supported item IDs there are...

(BC)BigChest
(BC)BigStoneChest
(BC)130   // chest
(BC)232   // stone chest
(BC)236   // Junimo chest

I guess we could hardcode those item IDs, and support a context tag like chest_item so custom-chest mods can make them configurable through Automate?

[urban patrol]

ohh thank you

[coral trout]

oh I thought it's data driven...Now I can (maybe) hardcode the IDs without shame... BTW how about setting down a custom chest added by mod? Are they handled manually in mod?

[ivory plume]

I assume so; you could try looking at a custom-chest mod's code to see what it does.

[lucid iron]

i think expanded storage is the main custom chests mod rn

[twin wadi]

this is pretty random, but does anyone know where the animation desc for marnie's laughing is? i believe it's triggered when you wear the lucky purple shorts, but ihnc where that could be. i checked Data/animationdescriptions.json

[brittle pasture]

that's hardcoded in C#, look at NPC.checkAction

[coral trout]

thanks ill have a look on their impl

[twin wadi]

ohh ok, i just wanted to know the frames. i havent decompiled it so i cant check i think?

[brittle pasture]

it's 33 and 34

looped 4 times

[twin wadi]

thanks! just 100ms each frame, right?

[brittle pasture]

180ms, except for the first frame which is 150ms

[twin wadi]

thank you sm!

[haughty charm]

@pine elbow sorry - removed your timeout - masked links/markdown text aren't allowed here until you reach a higher level!

[pine elbow]

I see. My bad, then. I will resend it without the masked link.

Hello. So I'm trying to make a conversion of this mod: Woomewoong's All Npc Portraits and Sprites (1.6 incomplete)...

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6152

But I am having a tough time "installing" the output as Stardrop is "unable to load" the mod.

Maybe I did something wrong, or missed some steps?

[vernal crest]

!json Can you share your json via the validator website linked below?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[pine elbow]

Okay, hang on.

Here is for the manifest.json file: https://smapi.io/json/manifest/8f9f7a299419485da8b8b4daf38a7af9

And here is... for the content.json file. Idk where I can categorize it in the website.

https://smapi.io/json/none/0fe79b35b4434766b8abbf8185bba897

[vernal crest]

That's the Content Patcher option

Your format should be 2.7.0 instead of 1.28.0

And you should not have the .xnb file extension in the Targets

[brittle pasture]

those are artifacts from the converters

[vernal crest]

The Target field never accepts a file extension

[brittle pasture]

I think the extension is fine?

[vernal crest]

Nope

Any extension fails

Oh, and they need to be Portraits/Abigail (for portraits) and Characters/Abigail (for sprites), not just their names.

[brittle pasture]

yeah, the converter requires that you organize the loose XNB files exactly as how the vanilla assets they replace are organized

[uncut viper]

(unless someone does a very bad thing and gives their asset a name with an extension)

[pine elbow]

I see. So the converter I used just did the conversion part, but I still need to do the organizing part, or...?

[brittle pasture]

so it can pick the Target field automatically for you

[rough lintel]

there is a CP version though

[brittle pasture]

since these are portraits you need to put Portraits before every character name in the Target fields

[pine elbow]

It is outdated and pre-1.6.

[rough lintel]

just replace those w new ones and save yourself half the work

[pine elbow]

I think the mod author hasn't made a version with 1.6 in mind (aka with the winter outfits).

[brittle pasture]

basically before you did the conversion you should have put all the xnb files into a blank folder named Portraits

but since you didn't you'd have to put Portraits into Target yourself

[pine elbow]

Ah, just copy/pasting the files from the 'asset' folder?

[brittle pasture]

"Target": "Abigail", -> "Target": "Portraits/Abigail",

...or do what lani said, it's faster

[rough lintel]

nodnod

then just add the new winter fields to the cp version and tadah

[vapid sonnet]

proposal: gun mod

[pine elbow]

Woomewoong also made sprites for the characters, and there are alterations for these Cursors.png and townInterior.png files, presumably from 1.5.

[round timber]

you can always make one yourself :]

[pine elbow]

Which would mean I'm gonna have to move stuff since 1.6 has more sprites in those files.

[brittle pasture]

I don't think 1.6 added new stuff to those files

could be wrong though, but the new stuff are in new sheets like cursors1.6

[pine elbow]

Ah, okay, then. But there seems to be a Korean text they replaced in the Cursors.png file, and my game is set to English.

I'll have to try and replace it with an English text version. I don't know how necessary is that, though.

[round timber]

you could just do a partial image patch rather than targeting the entire thing, that would fix that

[pine elbow]

Also, there seems to be two folders in the Content Patcher version's 'Portraits' folder: emoji_O, and emoji_X...

[lucid mulch]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6#XNB_impact

[rough lintel]

emoji o is emojis in portraits, emoji x is no emojis in portraits

[tiny zealot]

1.6 adding a new file called Cursors_1_6 is a true masterstroke of teasing the modders /lh

[rough lintel]

like a sweatdrop, or an angry vein thing, etc

[brittle pasture]

interesting, thanks for the correction

[pine elbow]

I just replaced the KR text with the EN version via Photopea. Nothing much was moved in the sprites there.

So it was fairly easy. I'm examining the content.json of the Content Patcher version and there seems to be KR texts there. Hopefully they're not of concern?

[round timber]

depends on what it is, i guess?

[lucid iron]

if they r just LogName or // its whatever

[devout otter]

Since Woomewoong also edits overworld sprites, I'm guessing they're there to edit like the drunk Shane sprite in cursors and the Morris in towninterior.

[pine elbow]

It's actually the sprite of Morris in the Cursors.png where he's with some Joja Mart employees congratulation the farmer on completing their route.

The banner above them says probably "SUCCESS!" in KR, so I reverted it to EN from the game's original files.

In the townInterior.png, I'll go change if there's any changes there for 1.6 and move things around if necessary.

Nvm, there doesn't seem to be anything new, just replaced two.

[devout otter]

Just a stray thought: most of portrait mods don't seem to edit Alex's mother, do they? And intro Grandpa even less so.

I guess they only appear once.

[round timber]

plus a lot of ppl skip the intro

[rough lintel]

^ im one of those people

[pine elbow]

I haven't noticed that yet.

[rough lintel]

also only a low percentage of players see the alex mom event so

that too

[pine elbow]

But based on Woomewoong's mod, they seem to have edited Alex's mother's sprite/s.

[brittle pasture]

(flashback to that one mod that made your grandpa a twink)

[round timber]

a what.

[pine elbow]

Having trouble copy/pasting the image files to the Content Patcher's version's assets.

Gonna have to compare each of them if necessary, due to the 'emoji_O' and 'emoji_X' folders, when the XNB version doesn't even have that.

The extracted XNB-to-PNG files don't seem to have those emoji effects, so I assume they're for the 'emoji_X' folder mainly?

But then, what of the one for 'emoji_O'?

See, this is what's confusing me.

On the left is the 'emoji_X' folder, and on the right are converted assets so I can copy/paste them.

Does this mean, I have to manually add in the emoji effects for the version I'm going to paste in the 'emoji_O' folder?

[devout otter]

Honestly I'm not sure what you mean by "emoji".

Where's the emoji?

[pine elbow]

Is highlighted folder is where I was with the left side of the image above.

Here's the two-window screen like from above, but instead of 'emoji_X' on the left, it's 'emoji_O'.

[devout otter]

Well, then the XNB version doesn't seem to actually have emoji.

The CP version gives you a choice in the config.

[pine elbow]

There wasn't a config file, though. And I accidentally downloaded the CP version for Stardrop, which warned me that it can't load the mod either.

[devout otter]

config file only gets automatically generated after you load the mod in-game.

[pine elbow]

I downloaded CP version again manually so I can edit the main asset files before zipping it into a ready-to-use mod.

[devout otter]

If the XNB version doesn't have an emoji version, you can just ignore that part. Erase the Config part in the content.jsonand the remove all the When conditionals from the portrait loads.

[pine elbow]

Unfortunately, the conent.json has KR characters.

Should I translate them?

[devout otter]

That shouldn't matter. Every line that starts with // wouldn't be read by the game.

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

u should get a editor that has json syntax highlighting, in particular jsonc support

[pine elbow]

@devout otter Ohh! I just realized, I guess the ones with emoji effects are optional? If I don't want any choice or option for that, I'll just plainly put the files in the 'Portraits' folder?

[devout otter]

It depends on how the mod is structured.

Basically you'd need to look into the content.json and look from where does it load the files.

[pine elbow]

There's a version for both, it seems. Guess I'm gonna have to make a 'emoji_O' version because the updated files only contains XNB for the X version.

[brave fable]

those are the author's comments about the code, so you may want to translate them for your own reference while you work, but you won't need to replace them in the file

[devout otter]

I think it'd be simpler to just delete the emoji_O version patches from the content.json.

[pine elbow]

Nah, it's fine. I'm kinda bored so I wanna do the O version. Comparing the two back-to-back, it seems Woomewoong is updating the portraits altogether.

Btw, is it okay to distribute these image files for reference?

[vernal crest]

It would probably be better if you zoomed in on them and then took screenshots, both so people could see better and so that you weren't sharing a mod file directly.

[crude quarry]

i wanna make a mod how do i

simple mod i can give info on what i wanna do to know difficulty

[round timber]

youd need to tell the idea first, thatll affect how difficult it is

[crude quarry]

oh

child expansion mod

i wanna make it so penny, jas, and vince can have a "field trip" on the farm

along with making vincent asking to say something to you without penny or jas

then he says he likes jas (kindergarten romance, hear me out ok its not bad)

then the player says either

1. You're too young
2. You should tell her!
3. She probably wouldn't like you

thats start of it

[lucid iron]

it sounds like you want an event mod

[crude quarry]

also this is all bc vince called me about if i have piggies on my farm

[lucid iron]

something with cutscenes

[crude quarry]

yeah

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

take look at how events r written

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

and content patcher

[crude quarry]

i dont have stardew on pc

only xbox

[brave fable]

difficulty level goes up a little if you don't actually have the game hahah

[lucid iron]

doomed then

[crude quarry]

i prob can

I WANNA MAKE ABIGIAL STATUE MOD HOLD UP

[lucid iron]

i guess this is theoretically doable as xnb mod

[crude quarry]

with her eating a gem

[lucid iron]

terror

[crude quarry]

abby eating a gem as a statue

recipe unlocked by marrying abigail and getting 10 <3 with Caroline and Pierre then getting 14 <3 with abigal with the letter
"You like Abigail. Would you like to prove that?"

is the letter, along with the recipe

its

1. 10 Amethyst
2. 3 Abigail Portraits
3. 20 Iridium Bars
4. 250 Gold Ore
5. 10 Battery Packs

when placed, abigail tells you
"Oh, <player>, is this me?"
"Well, I'll tell you one thing."
"It's accurate!!!"
Then you respond either

• I knew you'd like it!
• It was such a waste
• (ask for child)

if you pick ask for child she says
"<player>, what?"
and cutscene ends

if 2 children,
"<player>, we have enough."

gives 1 amethyst every day and if you beat Journey of the Prairie King, it becomes an arcade machine for it, along with having multiplayer like in the heart event

it would be a 3x3 statue

SORRY FOR SPAMMING THE ENTIRE CHAT, IS THIS POSSIBLE OR A GOOD IDEA

[brittle pasture]

well, most of that is doable with content patcher

[lucid iron]

i have few opinions about good/bad ideas but many strong opinions about what's feasible

[crude quarry]

what isnt doable

[lucid iron]

you are not going to get very far on a platform without smapi unfortunately, unless xbox meant gamepass

[crude quarry]

i have gamepass yeah

ultimate

[lucid iron]

then u good, go take look at the content patcher tutorial and how to script events

[crude quarry]

oh scripting? nvm

[round timber]

welp

[brave fable]

i respect your boundaries

[crude quarry]

i have 200 pairs of Lewis' purple shorts.

OOH PURPLE SHORTS STATUE IDEA-

just a statue made with x100 of them

5x5 statue

[brittle pasture]

well, what did you expect with events that has people moving around and talking at intervals

[crude quarry]

oh yeah

what about my shorts statue

[round timber]

sure

[crude quarry]

why is gamepass important tho

[round timber]

it isnt

but if you have it that means you can mod the game 👍

[crude quarry]

^^^

[brittle pasture]

when you said xbox we thought the console, which doesn't allow modding

if it's on PC, it's fair game

[crude quarry]

i have it is it possible tyo play gamepass through pc

[round timber]

im so confused 🤩

!gamepasssmapi

[ocean sail]

Installing SMAPI for Gamepass requires extra steps. Please see the guide here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Windows#Xbox_app

To use this command, type !gamepasssmapi.

[crude quarry]

yay ty

[twin wadi]

events are so fun but its soooo time consuming lol it took me like a total of 8 hours to make a single event (tbf im a beginner and it had forks which took a while to figure out) lol

[edgy swan]

HUZZAH the basic functionality of my mod works! now to see if editing planting conditions is do-able enough

[twin wadi]

thats the best feeling in modding lol

[edgy swan]

the best, right after the rush of dread when you get a bunch of errors in smapi

[twin wadi]

all in non-human language lol... just a wall of incomprehensible red text

[tepid plover]

wdym by this

sorry for late reply my socket extension died :bcedead:

[drowsy minnow]

could someone possibly help me fix this error with the texture loading? im uncertain how to fix it

https://smapi.io/log/1127ee519e04417d9b61902732775372

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 6 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[rigid musk]

can you send the json where'

oops

where you're loading the image and such?

(sorry for sending that early, i have a new keyboard and im getting used to it :L i didnt realize how different it'd feel when using this vs a laptop)

[drowsy minnow]

heres some of the jsons i assume are involved- ive never done this before so i was trying to use forage of ferngill as a reference
૮꒰◞ ˕ ◟ ྀི꒱ა
https://smapi.io/json/none/555c3e974cb349fa82d21c28d7a4c52a

https://smapi.io/json/none/cf8eb04100914530aa4fcfd481cf2504

[rigid musk]

does your png name have a space in it?

[drowsy minnow]

yes

[urban patrol]

your target needs to match your texture

whatever you load the png to should be what you put in the texture field

so in this case "Texture": "GbsForaging-CollectorsEdition/objects",

[drowsy minnow]

ohh ok thank you ill give it a try

yall have been so helpful thank you so much otherwise i likely wouldnt have managed this at all

[obsidian lodge]

i want assist with one mod i want to create

im looking for a mod like Bathroom after 2nd Houseupgrade

without bugs

[gentle rose]

I don't think anyone can guarantee a mod wouldn't have bugs

[obsidian lodge]

i want to make but i dont know how

[gentle rose]

are there existing mods that do it but they have bugs, or is this a new idea?

[obsidian lodge]

new idea

i want to make a bathroom after 2nd house upgrade but better

[gentle rose]

what do you mean "but better"? better than what, and in what way?

[obsidian lodge]

more decorated

[gentle rose]

okay, do you specifically want to make one or would you be happy if one already exists? (both are valid!)

[obsidian lodge]

if i cant find bathoroom mod i will make it

the mod i mentioned has a specific bug and its a bit outdated

[gentle rose]

oh, I asked you and you said there wasn't one

can you link to it?

[obsidian lodge]

i found 2 but its not a smapi mod

so....

this is the first problem

[gentle rose]

can you link them anyway so we can see what we're looking at?

[stoic prism]

why wont the shirt i created work??? it keeps saying folder empty whenever i try to run it 😓

[gentle rose]

we're going to need a little more detail than that

[stoic prism]

hold on ill do something again if it doesnt work ill send

[rigid musk]

Hi Iro :D ( also bye because im going to bed cause i have to get up in 6 hours-) but Hi!

[stoic prism]

i based this off a working mod, uhh (mb abt the design was just testing it first) whenever i launch it it says

these mods cannot be added to your game

• (mod name) because its an empty folder

[vernal crest]

That manifest.json file is actually a manifest.json.txt file. You need to turn file extensions on and then rename it to remove the .txt bit. You can turn file extensions on in the View menu.

[stoic prism]

OH MY GOD THANK YOU YOU SAVED ME

[lucid iron]

So the args is something like Mmap/_critter X Y crittertype count, you can use to Random to change the X Y on a day to day

[tepid plover]

several silly questions (sorry 😔)

1. whats a location changed trigger?
2. whats a count?
3. does this mean that it randomizes the 10 coordinates to spawn the fireflies?

sticker unintentioanl

[lucid iron]

1. [[Modding trigger_action]]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Trigger_actions

2 10 is argument for critter specifically

[gentle rose]

I didn’t see this but hiiii!

[prisma sky]

heeyyaa, so far as I see I managed to fix any errors with loading the asset, but I can't get it to actually show in game for some reason

[gentle rose]

can you send your current code (using the json uploader if it’s a content pack or something like github for c#)?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

Did u actually spawn the tas yet, like adding it to the location tas list

[prisma sky]

yes

but I'm trying to find some way to debug that now

okay so I see the method returning the tas and called by temporarySprites.Add(method) IS executing properly (forget the deleted message if you seen it)

hold on

the position is in pixels not tiles is it

[calm nebula]

Yup

[prisma sky]

holy it works

[serene moat]

Hello! I would like to request the Mod Author role

I made this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34053

[gentle rose]

you need to DM boncher

[serene moat]

It said to ask in this channel

[blissful panther]

Either works!

But Bouncer is more reliable, since it doesn't depend on one of us being in the channel.

[serene moat]

I just messaged bouncer as well

[blissful panther]

Okay, well I very much know the mod is real, so the next step is to add yourself to the community page on the wiki: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Community

[gentle rose]

I just know that that’s where I got sent when I applied haha, straight to boncher

[blissful panther]

(And I miss the public cheeto-ings. They used to be exclusively in-channel!)

[gentle rose]

too many cheetos now. no more public cheeto dust

[prisma sky]

alright now to figure out
a) why the animation plays like one tile down
b) how to hide the npc sprite for the duration
c) that there are other ways I should have done this entire thing in the first place lol

[lucid iron]

I mean are u in an event of so sort

[gentle rose]

chee to chee to chee to

[prisma sky]

it's not an event, its more of a background thing

[lucid iron]

Or making something akin to schedule animation

I did ask what the desired effect is but u didn't answer

[gentle rose]

are you asking all of us or just chu? because you straight up ignored me before and I’d like to know if I should bother lmao

[lucid iron]

I ask for myself always

[gentle rose]

oh I meant if they’re asking everyone chu, not you haha

[prisma sky]

oh wait I'm sorry I forgott

[lucid iron]

But yea if u r making something like the aerobics animation for ur npc to do

The correct thing is schedule anim

[serene moat]

Done!

[blissful panther]

You did the pixel art for the sprite and portrait, too?

[serene moat]

Yes, I did. And some pixel art for the custom map, spouseroom and patio

The weapon and shirt too

[blissful panther]

Then get the pixels part added on the community page, because that qualifies you for the pixelsmith role, too!

[serene moat]

Ohhh!

[blissful panther]

[serene moat]

Thank you!

[lucid iron]

Orang

[gentle rose]

cheeto

[serene moat]

Matches my pfp's hair lol

[calm nebula]

What is that emoji

[blissful panther]

It's from SMC! It's just the puffer holding a cheeto.

[tiny zealot]

(chanting) pixelsmith, pixelsmith

[prisma sky]

I'm trying to make npc's interact to certain objects placed by the player in a custom setting like a festival I guess? considering it would totally break any schedules I don't mess with the main logic for now

[lucid iron]

Then you are in an event of some sort i think (festivals r like that)

[tiny zealot]

festivals are events, it's true

[serene moat]

Why is mod-showcase using the old embed grumble grumble

[lucid iron]

Are you envisioning a minigame

[prisma sky]

festivals are pre-coded through aren't day? and my goal is to make them react if there is an object present and where

[prisma sky]

quite on point indeed

[tiny zealot]

they say there are only two hard problems in computer science /lh

[lucid iron]

Well i think tas is valid here if u need higher degree of control

Could also fiddle with their AnimatedSprite, but u would be bound to the 16x32

[serene moat]

The amount of time my professor in OOP has gone "wait, why it is doing that?" when showing his own code as examples is hilarious

[prisma sky]

it's hard to describe, kinda want SV rts minigame starring the villagers

[lucid iron]

I'd probably go nope to using any NPC then

[tiny zealot]

brb implementing final fantasy tactics in stardew's engine /j

[lucid iron]

It will add unnecessary co-op sync overhead

When i was making trinkets i started off using AnimatedSprite and eventually just changed to a simple custom controller

[prisma sky]

well tbh I kinda hoped I would develop at least okay-working framework for real-time npc - world interactions eventually

[gentle rose]

rts?

[tiny zealot]

i only know it as Real Time Strategy

[gentle rose]

but that confuses me as a minigame concept

tbh realtime anything confuses me as a concept for a minigame in stardew, a game that’s not really real-time (if I understand the gaming use of the term correctly?)

[tiny zealot]

anyway i only know a little about the NPC scheduler in stardew but my understanding is that you are likely to regret interacting with it. good luck to you

[gentle rose]

that is what I’ve heard from everyone who’s dealt with it too tbf

[tiny zealot]

i'm also a bit wary of the potential hurricane of bug reports that other NPC modders receive if your thing ends up screwing with their schedules

[gentle rose]

also just in general you shouldn’t change other modders’ npcs’ schedules for etiquette reasons

you don’t mess with other people’s mods from your mod

[blissful panther]

It's sensitive enough I had to make the decision to not allow you to pick up NPCs with Carry Your Pet.

Even that was enough to make 'em void walk.

[gentle rose]

favourite reason for void walking is a single misplaced warp in the bus stop making emily step all over your farm sometimes

(and through it and into the void)

[tiny zealot]

hey iro this is unrelated but i have seen you say "an smapi" several times and i must know if you pronounce the five letters individually instead of saying "smappy"

[lucid iron]

NPC scary

[gentle rose]

[lucid iron]

What if Critter

[gentle rose]

I also say ess cue ell

[blissful panther]

I thought everyone said smappy...

[lucid iron]

If a cloud can be a critter anything can

[blissful panther]

I do pronounce out SQL, though!

[lucid iron]

But it's sequel

[tiny zealot]

(this trick also works to determine how people pronounce "SNES")

[lucid iron]

Smampy

[gentle rose]

sneeze

[lucid iron]

Ssness

[tiny zealot]

usually it's one of "sness" or "ess en ee ess"

[gentle rose]

what if ess-ness

[tiny zealot]

jail

[blissful panther]

For me, it's more... snez?

[gentle rose]

(I honestly have no idea how I pronounce it in my head for some reason. Maybe snez? maybe super en ee ess?)

anyway what if we compromise and call it ess-mappy

or smay-pea-eye

[blissful panther]

@fading walrus, get the hammer. /j

[gentle rose]

smay-pea-eye it is! sold to dh

[lucid iron]

Swampi

[blissful panther]

Okay, slight upgrade time. Attestation gets automatically added to the release now.

[gentle rose]

does this let you carry your horse

and/or livestock

[blissful panther]

Animals yes, horse... nope!

[gentle rose]

sad

why did you abandon the horse

[blissful panther]

Which does mean you can carry MEEP animal-powered fake NPCs, but... that's fine.

[calm nebula]

Ess en eee ess

[tiny zealot]

DH how do you carry the animals and does it compete with throwing them

haha yes the default key is left shift what else would it be /lh

[blissful panther]

Left shift plus interact!

[tiny zealot]

yeah that is tater toss's default as well

[blissful panther]

Wait, really?!

[tiny zealot]

yeah. it's configurable

[blissful panther]

I guess at least we know nobody's had a problem with it yet!

[tiny zealot]

tee hee

[blissful panther]

╰─> gh attestation verify --owner AlanDavison /home/alan/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew\ Valley/Mods/BetterReturnScepter/BetterReturnScepter.dll
Loaded digest sha256:e0a90a9702f4057249c9e01f7668fe5f4fd1bd5b459cab73297fa672ee23498e for file:///home/alan/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley/Mods/BetterReturnScepter/BetterReturnScepter.dll
Loaded 1 attestation from GitHub API

The following policy criteria will be enforced:
- Predicate type must match:................ https://slsa.dev/provenance/v1
- Source Repository Owner URI must match:... https://github.com/AlanDavison
- Subject Alternative Name must match regex: (?i)^https://github.com/AlanDavison/
- OIDC Issuer must match:................... https://token.actions.githubusercontent.com

✓ Verification succeeded!

The following 1 attestation matched the policy criteria

- Attestation #1
  - Build repo:..... AlanDavison/StardewValleyMods
  - Build workflow:. .github/workflows/manual-release.yml@refs/heads/master
  - Signer repo:.... AlanDavison/StardewValleyMods
  - Signer workflow: .github/workflows/manual-release.yml@refs/heads/master

Now for the fun process of uploading a "new version" of the same version of all of my mods so everything lines up.

[tawny ore]

Did you implement DRM for SDV mods? /lh

[fading walrus]

No

(I had Dutch class.)

[idle lantern]

I think I figured it out. I opened Elliot's map to see an example 🙂

[prisma sky]

so going back to the original question lol, in time I will look into other ways to do that but for now if I play a temporary animated sprite how can I hide the original sprite?

[idle lantern]

I finished my Custom NPC room!

[calm nebula]

If you're doing real time npcs i wouldn't do that at all

I would use the animation system on npc

AnimatedSprite

[pine elbow]

What mods are you making?

[calm nebula]

Me? The last time I released a mod was May 2023.

[pine elbow]

And what was it?

[prisma sky]

well at least I learned something from all that, now time to learn another something

[calm nebula]

I release mods in batches when I'm ready to

I think that was the group with camera pan, shovel, not sure what else was in there

[lucid iron]

What is the purpose of your question

[pine elbow]

Mine?

[lucid iron]

Yeah if u want to talk about playing with mod perhaps #modded-stardew better

This channel mainly for getting help with creating mods

[idle lantern]

Writing dialogue, and I have Evelyn scripted to mention a 'flea market'. Is that too colloquial, or should I let potential-future translators worry about it?

Or is 'bazaar' more Stardewy

wait. Rummage sale.

[round timber]

id say “flea market” is the most stardewy

rummage sale sounds british, which stardew isnt

[blissful panther]

And recognisable, personally!

[pine elbow]

Oh ok. Just the other channels were a bit empty

And here ppl were talking

[pine elbow]

Sry @chuv

[prisma sky]

are there any premade ways of summoning particles, or is it also done by tas and some content spritesheet?

[lucid iron]

Yeah TAS is usually what u do

For example u can look at how cauldron smoke in the wizard's house is a combo of scale change alpha change motion

[prisma sky]

so there are no "prefabs", and I have to find and tas it on my own then?

as in no collection of common particles ready to be called \

I love how farmer, tools, and for example a water from the watering can are all separate tilesheets lol

[blissful panther]

You can try to find in the decompile where the game creates a similar set of particles or whatnot that you want, but... they're just all over the place.

[prisma sky]

yeah I see

[rigid oriole]

There's a utility method for creating sparkle particles i believe

Specifically sparkles

[winter relic]

Hey all,

I'm a blind Stardew Valley newbie, with some programming nuances. I'm looking for a way of creating custom farm maps without a dedicated software (I can't use Tiled because, well, I'm blind and it isn't accessible at all).
The problem is that the map boundaries appear as blocked tiles when I play. If you think about it, it does make sense, since the map was intentionally made to have a certain shape, but I would really like more freedom. I'd love a big, rectangular farm map, with enough space to fulfill some ideas (paths connecting objects, nice fences separating huge planted areas from the buildings, etc.).

Do you have any suggestions (avoiding the one to consult a sighted person to help me with Tiled or to create the map for me, please 😅)? Is there any programmatic way of creating a map within my mod? I know they are somewhat complex, but at the end of the day, they are just a data structure (ideally in C#, potentially a .tmx file). I'd stick to the vanilla tilesheets for obvious reasons. 😉

Thanks in advance for any tip, advice, idea, suggestion... Every kind of help would be really appreciated.

[urban patrol]

i’m not sure how helpful this would be, but if you open .tmx files in notepad++ or another type of text editor, the tile layout appears as rows and columns of numbers that correspond to the tile that’s been been placed there

[flat sluice]

This might be helpful: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Making_changes_with_SMAPI
If I read it correctly, it is possible to add maps using C# only (having .png tilesheets), but my C# knowledge is very poor.

[gentle rose]

The underlying structure of tiled files is XML - I would do what nic said and look at some of the existing ones for how they're structured, since we really don't have any documentation for it right now unfortunately

[lucid iron]

Hm i think there are some big rectangle "cleaned up standard farm" mods

[gentle rose]

I've actually made one myself haha (but they asked to only be given advice on how to do it themselves)

mine isn't published or anything but I can throw it here if anyone does want it

[uncut viper]

i think the biggest problem would be identifying what numbers go to what tiles without documentation of the vanilla tilesheets in that regard

its XML but without knowing what to write in the XML its difficult

[iron ridge]

Depending on how much programmatically you mean there is https://github.com/anotherpillow/tmxpy but you'd have to modify an existing map with it

[lucid iron]

Here is a newish one at least https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20952

As for just making the map programmatically i guess if have a special tilesheet whose tiles are layed out logically and only for function of "being diggable" or "being water" it's possible to generate a thing like that

Most maps aren't this cus they use game tilesheets and those have funny rearranging going on

[uncut viper]

a custom tilesheet laid out specifically for this and documented seems like itd be the best way to me too

[lucid iron]

Thanks to 1.6 u can just make whole new map as farm

No need to worry about keeping vanilla sheet

[gentle rose]

@winter relic tl;dr it is possible that asking sighted people for help to some extent is unavoidable because there just isn't documentation of this stuff right now (but if you let us know more about the accessibility tools you currently use we may be able to give slightly better advice?)

[gaunt orbit]

If you use c#, you can create a map entirely programmatically via the asset pipeline

Nobody has before, as far as I know, so you'd mostly be in uncharted territory, but it's definitely a thing you can do

[idle lantern]

Tiled isn't allowing me to add multiple Custom Properties: Actions, but I want two different warp points within the same room. Is this the best way to format the two options?

TouchAction MagicWarp 4 10 Town 57 64,
TouchAction MagicWarp 9 10 RahielLamp 45 6

[blissful panther]

Casey is probably the closest to having completely procedurally made maps...

[lucid iron]

I guess u basically just gotta construct all the xTile things by hand if you want this right

[worn coral]

What are you trying to add those to? The Map properties or a single Tile property? I don't think you can add two of the same properties like that - you can set the warps using TileData on specific tiles on the Objects layer, for example - so each of your warps is on the right tile already

[winter relic]

Hello! Thanks for the ideas.
I'm using the NVDA screen reader, with the Stardew Access mod to make the game accessible.
I'm definitely going to check TMXpy, since I'm way better in Python than in C#, but the latter might also be an option if I figure out how to do exactly the thing I want to do (by trials and errors, of course, and a lot of hours spent in VS haha).

Yep, some existing farms/maps similar to the described one would also be a good option, so throw them without hesitating. 😄