making-mods-general

[gray bear]

my itty bitty brain doesn't understand the {{range}} condition in any capacity. guess {{random}} would be the one you need to use Dennis?

[scenic lodge]

I wanted to try that but it doesn't preserver the config.json file and don't create structured mod backups like I wanted , so I wanted ro create that

[flat sluice]

I don't know if {{random}} would be enough.
However, I can't even trigger normal marriage dialogues (only generic/game ones, not the moded ones). File: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a19d5fe926154ea08feeddf7e0ab83b7

[scenic lodge]

And I have tested that script over iterations hundreds of times and it works besides the bugs that I mentioned

[lucid iron]

https://gist.github.com/Mushymato/8a0e7a75b551673faaff43eee4a0c33d

[flat sluice]

And log: https://smapi.io/log/1a6484f0962044d399cab762a04a268a

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 65 C# mods and 48 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[lucid iron]

Here's my cli nexus mod updooter u can yoink as long as u have premium

It's kinda bad in that it doesn't handle rar correctly

[ivory plume]

The item spawn codes were rewritten in 1.6. I think you should be able to just list the item ID multiple times like [390][390][390][390][390] to get five of them, but I haven't tried it.

[gray bear]

well i think what you're trying to do is beyond my capabilities

[flat sluice]

And i18n: https://smapi.io/json/i18n/2d1f493f9e8642269415836510e66d2e

[round dock]

Ah, I’m relieved to hear that. Thanks, Pathos!

[scenic lodge]

The script I shared handle rars , zips and 7zips but it's only intended to work locally . You have to download the mods manually

[wanton pebble]

!chatgptcode

[ocean sail]

Please stop trying to get ChatGPT to write your C# mods for you, especially if you don't know how to write C#. It won't work without heavy editing, and it wastes everyone's time.

Large language models fundamentally are reguritating something from their input—which is roughly speaking, the written output of humanity up until 2021 or so, for ChatGPT. For specific, niche topics like "is this framework going to do what I want" or "which things does Game1.cs have access to", it probably has no idea! But it's good at detecting that people in the past have....said things about frameworks and written things in C#, so it does its best to assemble words and symbols into a nice order for you. Sometimes it tells you true things, and sometimes it tells you false things, and if you can't detect when, you're in trouble. When you're writing code, this usually produces garbage, because you can't be "sort of similar", you have to be exactly correct or it won't work.

To use this command, type !chatgptcode.

[gentle rose]

it can be so hard to know exactly what every parameter expansion, substitution and command does and how to make sure they NEVER misbehave and accidentally move/delete a path that you weren't intending them to, even when you do know all the details of how to write them. Seriously, if you are planning on using this only yourself that's perfectly fine, but I would be extremely hesitant to publish it until someone who's very experienced in scripts like these can confirm to you it won't go wrong (and I am someone who does know how to write them)

[lucid iron]

I don't actually find config preserving to be a big issue cus most mods (correctly) do not ship the actual config.json

[wanton pebble]

That command IS still active

[flat sluice]

Maybe not only beyond your capabilities, maybe I want to do something that is impossible (CP-only) or it has to be in other form of code that we can not find out...

[lucid iron]

And usually don't alter the file structure so updooting by overwrite is alright most of the time

[scenic lodge]

I only made it for personal usen. And don't want to share it for the reasons you mentioned and that it's not actually made by me

[gray bear]

Nah, what you're trying to do seems very plausible (that is, i know for a fact one can randomize dialouge)

[tiny zealot]

this is a feature, actually. rar: not even once

[gentle rose]

all good in that case - just wanted to make sure! you never know what people plan on distributing sometimes 😭

[lucid iron]

This spaget is not licensed (all rights reserved) mostly cus I have zero desire to release it in a generally usable state

But i got no issues with ppl taking it for themselves

[gray bear]

i'm just probably not the best person to give advice on that. gestures to people here i know have made npcs bet they could help

[tight rivet]

releases all my mods as .ace.gz.tar from now on

[gray bear]

is that even a file

[gentle rose]

guys do you like my code

if (e.DataType == typeof(Texture2D))
{
    e.LoadFromModFile<Texture2D>("assets/cage.png", AssetLoadPriority.High);
}

[rotund elm]

if not you can make it one lol

[tiny zealot]

10/10 high quality shitpost

[tight rivet]

It is but I think .ace is generally unsupported

[scenic lodge]

Also, as you said you have experience in this , if you want to you can build it upon itself and share in nexus or other platforms if you want .

[tight rivet]

it should properly be .tar.gz too

[teal bridge]

The .gz.tar order is pretty evil, I'll admit.

[gray bear]

i saw your sins and i am unamused

[gentle rose]

I would rather not take on that kind of responsibility, but ty!

[flat sluice]

Oh, don't worry that you couldn't help me, I really appreciate your help (and I take notes of everyone who's helping me so when/if I will ever release the mod, I'd mention them)

[teal bridge]

It looks innocent but it's going to screw up a whole lot of tools.

[lucid iron]

What is the newest most compressy format these days

[ivory plume]

No, the game expects all the keys to exist. For example, if you do this:

"Rainy_Day_{{Random: {{Range:0,4}} |key=rainy_day}}": "{{i18n: rainy-day.{{{{Random: {{Range:0,4}} |key=rainy_day}}}}"

That will correctly produce text like this:

"Rainy_Day_3": "{{i18n: rainy-day.3}}"

But then the game may choose Rainy_Day_2 which doesn't exist, in which case it'll fallback to the key it would use if none of those existed.

[teal bridge]

7zip, probably, unless you're talking about streaming compression.

[tight rivet]

It is, now that I think about it

[scenic lodge]

can you share to it to me personally then with the fixes , whenever you have free time ?

[tough crater]

I do my dialogue like this:

"spring_18": "{{i18n:medsDialogue_{{Random:{{Range:1,2}}}}}}"

[gray bear]

aha! people who know more than me, my favorite

thank u

[tough crater]

No problem!!

[gentle rose]

I think it's best if you try some of the solutions the others have mentioned like using Chu's repo first, and if that doesn't work we can try specifically debugging yours (I have more experience with zsh than with bash but I can probably help)

[tiny zealot]

i see we all talked about the chatgpt part but my other recommendation in general is to avoid writing significant programs in bash/shell

[flat sluice]

Wow, I would never think of that! Testing right now!

[scenic lodge]

I chose bash because it's the only language I slightly understand

[teal bridge]

Don't post that on any Linux forums...

[tight rivet]

wat

[lucid iron]

Idk i think unzipping some stuff is probably fine to do in bash

[tight rivet]

My Linux teacher (and textbook) are crying at you right now

[gentle rose]

writing full scripts in shell is so cursed

[lucid iron]

Not like they want to make cli mod manager

[gentle rose]

but like, smaller stuff is fine. idk, I break this rule all the time

[lucid iron]

Even nexus api dl is fine if u just curl probably

[tight rivet]

The newest format for compression is .zst

[gray bear]

.zst ? like zest?

[tight rivet]

.zpaq is the newest archival apparently

[gray bear]

are u saying real words anymore

[flat sluice]

So I copied the code you provided, but SMAPI doesn't like it:

[Content Patcher] Ignored (CP) Eleanor > Eleanor - dialogues load command > assets/dialogues.json > Eleanor - marriage dialogues: error reading info. Technical details:
System.InvalidOperationException: Error parsing '' as a tokenizable string
 ---> System.InvalidOperationException: Error parsing 'Random: {{Range:0,4}} |key=rainy_day}}}}' as a tokenizable string
...... some more lines .......
```. Maybe I did something wrong?

[lucid iron]

Python is just my comfort language for these smol things

[teal bridge]

Yeah, that's why I stipulated non-streaming compression, zstd is used for realtime but I never see it used for offline file compression.

[tight rivet]

ah, fair

[iron ridge]

https://peazip.github.io/zst-compressed-file-format.html

[tight rivet]

I'm looking at a compression comparable

[teal bridge]

There is actually newer stuff than zstd but it is less popular.

[tight rivet]

https://peazip.github.io/paq-file-format.html zpaq

[gentle rose]

you have two four more } than {

[tight rivet]

The newest you'lll see is like.. apparently .zipx in the wild?

[gray bear]

I think what Pathos meant is when setting a key (i.e. rainy dialogue) you shouldn't be radnomizing the key

[teal bridge]

Actually zstd might be newer, it's just less compressive than brotli (but it is much faster).

[gray bear]

is it a key or token? i may be stupid

[tight rivet]

That seems logical. I personally would probably tap off at .zipx

[teal bridge]

Also "ZPaq" is a hilarious name for so many reasons.

[tight rivet]

but most of what I need 7z and zip is good enough

[flat sluice]

Four? I found only two and now it is OK (but still not working).

[ivory plume]

Oh, there's a typo in my example:

"Rainy_Day_{{Random: {{Range:0,4}} |key=rainy_day}}": "{{i18n: rainy-day.{{Random: {{Range:0,4}} |key=rainy_day}}}}"

But yeah, my comment was that you shouldn't randomize the Rainy_Day_* keys since the game will then try to choose one at random.

[wanton pebble]

Iro's correct. Whenever you see that parsing tokenizable string thing, your culprit is almost always }}s

And let me tell you

Getting that error in an i18ned event is the worst

[tight rivet]

Okay back to object conversions. I will finish this before lunch so I can focus on my acutal homework

[wanton pebble]

Hunting through the ENTIRE event for missing }s...

[tight rivet]

(Data Warehousing, the joy of Database Design.)

[gray bear]

missing commas hurt more

[flat sluice]

So excuse my stupidness, but I should try to use the code you provided?

[wanton pebble]

Missing commas are just "D'oh!"

[gray bear]

commas make me sad

[wanton pebble]

Missing }}s can be a horrid hellscape

[gray bear]

I think
"Rainy_Day_Dialogue: "{{i18n: rainy-day.{{Random: {{Range:0,4}} |key=rainy_day}}}}"
but at the same time i don't understand the key

[ivory plume]

You can use similar code to randomize dialogue. However you need to specify all of the Rainy_Day_x keys for it to work correctly, so you shouldn't randomize those keys.

[scenic lodge]

Thanks .
That one involves downloading from nexus , which requires premium . So I don't want to go that route .
Honestly stardrop would be perfect if it only had the config preserving functionality and optionally backups

[gray bear]

did i spell dialogue wrong? mayhaps

[tight rivet]

Stardrop is open source, you could fork it and add the features

[teal bridge]

That spelling is definitely wrong.

[gray bear]

autocorrect to the rescue

[teal bridge]

Dialoogie

[gentle rose]

does stardrop have an issue with preserving configs for you guys? I don't think it overwrites configs for me but I could be wrong

[ivory plume]

You need to use the exact dialogue keys (e.g. that one is from the marriage dialogue list).

[tight rivet]

I don't use a mod manager so

[gray bear]

sounds like a name for a dog

[scenic lodge]

It's docs said that it can overwrite them

[light bramble]

does this work for crafting recipe? "Cheese": "{{ModID}}.LargeCheese 1/Home/424 {{Cheese Amount}}/false/Farming 3"

[tight rivet]

(SMAPI does the one thing I would want from a mod manager - alert me to updates.)

[lucid iron]

When i was do stardewui stuff i spel "dialogue" as "dialog" every single time

[gray bear]

yeah i sometimes have this issue but i can never like, figure out the reason

[scenic lodge]

Only if I knew to code

[teal bridge]

Or... dialuge, that's when you sled on rough terrain without safety gear.

[light bramble]

Like am I allowed to use {{Cheese Amount}} instead of a number? {{Cheese Amount}} is a number

[teal bridge]

(ok, I'm done)

[drowsy pewter]

if stardrop overwrote everyones configs i imagine it would be unusable for pretty much all its players

[rancid temple]

I believe this will work

[flat sluice]

Oh yeah! Now it makes sense to me.

[gray bear]

i don't think my brain gets the keys but than again im distracted by jiggling ones

[light bramble]

ok, thank you!

[drowsy pewter]

Oh wow, it gave you a choice

[rancid temple]

It's a little more straightforward than most areas because you're putting a string into a string there

[drowsy pewter]

If you need help using stardrop, just ask modded farmers

[ivory plume]

Yep. The token just gets substituted into the text before the game receives and parses it.

[light bramble]

tysm

[rancid temple]

In other areas, I've put strings into int areas and they still work

[gray bear]

aren't configs saved in the game files somewhere

[flat sluice]

Like this?

   "Rainy_Day_0": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day_{{Random: {{Range:0,6}} |key=rainy_day}}}}",
    "Rainy_Day_1": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day_{{Random: {{Range:0,6}} |key=rainy_day}}}}",
    "Rainy_Day_2": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day_{{Random: {{Range:0,6}} |key=rainy_day}}}}",
    "Rainy_Day_3": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day_{{Random: {{Range:0,6}} |key=rainy_day}}}}",
    "Rainy_Day_4": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day_{{Random: {{Range:0,6}} |key=rainy_day}}}}",
    "Rainy_Day_5": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day_{{Random: {{Range:0,6}} |key=rainy_day}}}}",

[gray bear]

i swear that was the case

[scenic lodge]

they are inside mod folders

[rancid temple]

So long as they're strings of ints anyways

[flat sluice]

Mod configs are commonly in mod folders, as Phypy says.

[gray bear]

i think i might be thinking of a different game

[ivory plume]

Technically that would work, but why do you need to randomize the values if the game will already choose one at random?

So you could just do this:

"Rainy_Day_0": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day0}}",
"Rainy_Day_1": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day1}}",
"Rainy_Day_2": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day2}}",
"Rainy_Day_3": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day3}}",
"Rainy_Day_4": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day4}}",
"Rainy_Day_5": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day5}}",

[flat sluice]

So I got back to the start - I just can't optimize (easily) the marriage code. Anyways, thanks so much to everyone who was here for helping me!

[flat sluice]

Wouldn't I achieve even better randomization with the code I suggested? Or am I wrong?

[gentle rose]

what are you trying to optimize, by the way? like your own mod, or the base game marriage dialogues?

and in what sense do you mean "optimize"

[flat sluice]

My own mod, respectively it's dialogues code.

[flat sluice]

Having as lowest amount of lines as possible.

So from 6 to 1, in this case.

[gentle rose]

that's not really necessary and very rarely a good idea to be doing too much off ngl. Sometimes it's better to have the 6 readable, simple lines

[rancid temple]

Keys-wise you can't really reduce it, you could reduce your number of actual i18n lines

[flat sluice]

Yeah, I guess you both are right.

[scenic lodge]

So can anyone help debugging that bash script ?

[gentle rose]

I'm not on my linux machine rn, sorry

[scenic lodge]

no worries

[flat sluice]

Oh, sorry to use your space for asking my questions and getting your question somewhere deep down this chat.

Didn't mean to.

[ivory plume]

If the number of available dialogues matches the number of Rainy_Day_x keys, it's technically less random since your randomization may result in duplicates like this:

"Rainy_Day_0": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day5}}",
"Rainy_Day_1": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day1}}",
"Rainy_Day_2": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day4}}",
"Rainy_Day_3": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day4}}",
"Rainy_Day_4": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day3}}",
"Rainy_Day_5": "{{i18n:{{ModId}}.Rainy_day5}}",

Where the distribution looks something like:

• 5: 33%
• 4: 33%
• 3: 16%
• 2: 0%
• 1: 16%
• 0: 0%

There's a way around that using synced keys if you really want to do it (e.g. because you want more than six possible dialogues), but if the number of dialogues is the same then it's both simpler and more random to use the base game's randomization directly.

[scenic lodge]

your problem fits this channel more than mine , so no worries

[flat sluice]

So I was wrong. Expected that. Sorry to bother you with that (stupid) question. (Maybe, one day, I'll use synced keys for more than 6 dialogues, but that won't happen anytime soon.)

[ivory plume]

No worries! The channel is here to ask questions.

[flat sluice]

Yeah, I wouldn't agree on that one, as everyone has equal right to ask for questions. So sorry again.
(leaving the chat...for now)

[ivory plume]

I'd mainly suggest using something other than Bash (e.g. C#). That will immediately eliminate the weird Bash quirks like the argument parsing issues you're having, and then it'll also be easier to troubleshoot and get help.

[gentle rose]

(pathos, when you have a minute/are back from vacation, is there any chance I could have access to the repos?)

[scenic lodge]

Thanks for the advice .
I am currently learning python a bit , so maybe I will try to write it from scratch in Py when I am good at it

[ivory plume]

Invite sent! See the repo readme for more info when you get access.

Note that it doesn't have the latest 1.6.9+ yet, which I'll be working on soon (with the new PRs).

[gentle rose]

thank you so much!

[tight rivet]

done converting and fixing the sheet. Time to see if this worked

[tight rivet]

.. it didn't

This is weird:

Lookup Anything

... I'm very confused

[ivory plume]

What specifically is the issue?

[tight rivet]

why is the sprite index suddendly 0.

[ivory plume]

If you run patch export Data/Objects in the SMAPI console window, is the sprite index correct in the exported file? Is the item showing the 🚫 sprite in-game? How are you spawning that item currently?

[fervent horizon]

Hey @ivory plume, just curious if you ever got a chance to look at that slime hutch limit pull request I submitted.

[ivory plume]

The one for ChroniclerCherry's repo? Not yet; I'm slowly catching up on messages for my own mods, but I'll be working on Cherry's mods once I'm done with those.

[tight rivet]

the sprite index is correct on the exported file. They were spawned by harvesting from a fruit tree

Let me check a manual spawn via player_add

[ivory plume]

If you have CJB Item Spawner, you can also try searching in its menu. That way you're sure the ID is correct (though it seems to be since the context tags are there).

[tight rivet]

.. huh

player_add spawns it correctly

[ivory plume]

What does your fruit tree's fruit entry look like?

[tight rivet]

 "KAYA.KoreaBlossomCP_WhiteMagnoliaTree": {
    "PlantableLocationRules": null,
    "DisplayName": "(no translation:WhiteMagnoliaTreeName)",
    "Seasons": null,
    "Fruit": [
      {
        "Season": null,
        "Chance": 1.0,
        "Condition": null,
        "Id": "KAYA.KoreaBlossomCP_WhiteMagnolia",
        "ItemId": "KAYA.KoreaBlossomCP_WhiteMagnolia",
        "RandomItemId": null,
        "MaxItems": null,
        "MinStack": -1,
        "MaxStack": -1,
        "Quality": -1,
        "ObjectInternalName": null,
        "ObjectDisplayName": null,
        "ObjectColor": null,
        "ToolUpgradeLevel": -1,
        "IsRecipe": false,
        "StackModifiers": null,
        "StackModifierMode": "Stack",
        "QualityModifiers": null,
        "QualityModifierMode": "Stack",
        "ModData": null,
        "PerItemCondition": null
      }
    ],
    "Texture": "Mods/KAYA.KoreaBlossomCP/FruitTrees",
    "TextureSpriteRow": 2,
    "CustomFields": null
  },

(time to fix that too)

I wonder

i'm going to save and quit and see if that fixes it

[drowsy pewter]

If a spawned item (such as one hanging out on a tree) errors out and turns into an error item, even if you correct the data/item later, that item will have lots its spriteindex and be set to 0

so it has to be a fresh item

[tight rivet]

that might have been it

becuase I had it as JA before I converted it

[ivory plume]

Is that the exported data, or what it looks like in the content pack?

[tight rivet]

exported

[tender bloom]

JA will attempt to convert stuff, but only if you keep the JA pack installed

(If you remove the JA pack they turn into error items—they should remember their names)

[tough crater]

Does <season>_<dayOfMonth> take priority over <season>_<dayOfWeek>?

[brittle ledge]

Should, yes

[tough crater]

For some reason, it isn't for me?

[brittle ledge]

[[Modding:Dialogue]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[tough crater]

I'm using dynamic tokens in the code for those so that might be making ir difficult for the game to understand? I'm still messing around

[brittle ledge]

Hmm actually it doesn't mention order in there. Maybe I'm thinking of marriage dialogue

@ivory plume Do you know if there's a set order dialogue keys are prioritized in? I don't see it mentioned on the wiki (but maybe I just can't read)

[rigid musk]

i thought the precedence was set in the order it shows up on the table there

[rigid oriole]

i believe the wiki lists it top-down in order of priority

[rigid musk]

^

[rigid oriole]

i've been looking in the related code a bit recently and it seems to match up

[rigid musk]

like going down this list

[tight rivet]

that is likely my problem. And..doing a next-day fresh fixed it

Which hey, I cna move on to the next "huh" why is this not sellable to the bin

to docuemntation1

[rigid musk]

with schedules - if I wanted to make it so a villager moved around/paced like harvey how would I go about doing that

[tough crater]

For whatever reason, my "<season>_18" dialogue gets overruled by "<season>_Thu"

[rigid musk]

Huh that is weird

[round dock]

I’ve always been under the belief that it does take precedence over season_dayOfWeek tbh

[rigid musk]

im pretty sure the season_day should take precedence over season_dayofweek since one is more specific than the other (itd make sense)

so its weird that it's just like... no you cant have this

[brittle ledge]

Okay, I didn't imagine that! Wonder why I couldn't find it. I'm blaming mobile.

[round dock]

That’s… odd…

[rigid musk]

especially for something like how day-before-festival dialogue works (iirc it's literally just specifically using the season_day format for the day before the festival)

(thats how i did it with my dialogue anyways - i havent actually officially tested any of it)

[round dock]

That’s how I do my dialogue as well, in case I want something season and day specific, I expect the latter to take precedence

[rigid musk]

i say any - ive not tested specific date dialogue

[uncut viper]

NPC.tryToRetrieveDialogue() seems to indicate that dayOfMonth is checked before day name

with season-specific dialogue having priority first ofc

[tough crater]

It's probably something to do with conditions in my dialogue

[rigid musk]

i just did a quick test with my dialogue and i think it has to be

my date specific dialogue overwrites the general weekly dialogue

[merry summit]

Hi I have a question! I’m messing with my custom farm map and the different areas have different types of fish by location (mountain, ocean, river). I’m hoping to get it so custom fish added to these locations by mods are added to the farm but it’s not working. The custom fish show up in say the ocean but my farm’s ocean is entirely vanilla fish. Does anyone have any idea how I can get the edited location data added to my farm?

It was working before but I switched computers and now it’s all vanilla fish I have no idea what’s messing with it

[latent mauve]

per the wiki, it'd be part of the animation for that schedule point: square_X_Y_facing causes NPCs to make random movements in a rectangle of at most X by Y (it can be less), centered at the schedule point. They will occasionally pause and face the facing direction.

[rigid musk]

I dont know how I didnt register that thank you

I was looking through the schedule wiki and was confused because I couldnt find that (i saw it in harvey's schedule but apparently im a bit blind when it comes to the wiki)

[tight rivet]

If I'm reading this right, I need to include "Type": "Objects" for things to actually sell through the bin, right?

[drowsy pewter]

That's not a type

it does have to have a type though

for objects I believe most of them are Type Basic

The vanilla types are: Basic, Arch (artifact), Litter (e.g. debris), Minerals, Quest, Crafting, Fish, Cooking, Seeds, Ring, interactive, and some placeholder values like asdf.

[rancid temple]

What are you trying to make sellable through the bin

[tight rivet]

Yeah, I just .. realized that

I uh..

forgot types on everything

woops!

opens up Notepad++ and Notepad3 again

[gentle rose]

Does anyone know where in the contents folder the string asset Strings\\Locations:Desert_Return_Yes is? I can't seem to find it

[rancid temple]

Er, Content > Strings > Locations, line 74 for me

[gentle rose]

ty, apparently notepad's find in file function isn't working for some reason 💀

[rancid temple]

I suggest a less bad program

[gentle rose]

I usually use vscode

but it opened in notepad and I was lazy

[rancid temple]

I got tired of getting flashbanged by my Notepad++ not saving my theme so I uninstalled it

[rigid musk]

yeahh it got rid of mine when i updated it and i was very upset ... i redid it because i dont want to learn another program right now but it was very upsetting

my pretty colors :(

[rancid temple]

I probably had extra settings stored somewhere from installing it weirdly, but I was really only using it for notes at this point

[gentle rose]

all this searching for how the game handles the bus stop payment only to find out that it's this Game1.player.Money -= this.TicketPrice;

I could have figured that out myself...

[rancid temple]

Sometimes it worked fine and depending on how I opened something, sometimes I was greeted by the full power of the sun

Yeah the bus stop is hilariously hardcoded

Yet another project I was gonna deal with but dunno if I'll ever circle back on

[gentle rose]

also just to clarify, I wasn't talking about notepad++, I was talking about notepad. Like the og that comes bundled with windows

[rancid temple]

Ohhh

Ew

[uncut viper]

if you break my bus transpiler its on sight /j

[rigid musk]

i use notepad as a way to ... well literally keep notes. like sticky notes on my desktop :3

the blinding white is a bit annoying though

[ivory plume]

(That was Game1.player.Money -= 500 before 1.6, so it's a tiny bit better now.)

[rancid temple]

At this point I don't even remember what my plan was lmao, something something custom dialogue box, keep using the logic for boarding the bus and watching the drive off animation, hijack warping and then create some new system for setting up bus stops elsewhere

All I have is the vague points now though

[wanton pebble]

Does anyone know if zero schedules would cause voidwalking?

[uncut viper]

im pretty sure i transpiled into an if statement or two in there so you'd probably break it but i wouldnt blame you

[rancid temple]

Is this transpiler for making the bus self drivable?

[uncut viper]

it is!

but only if you meet a requirement

[wanton pebble]

I've got a weird interaction with PoaSB that's causing a Sandy schedule in it (only with SVE, mind, since Sandy doesn't leave her shop if no SVE) to cause Sandy to walk on the farm somehow - apparently SVE doesn't directly edit that day, yet somehow she's on the player's farm at the falls

[rancid temple]

Only issue I know for zero schedules is the NPC duplication

I can't think of what PoaSB is

[wanton pebble]

Part of a Saloon Breakfast

[ivory plume]

(The decompiled game repo now includes 1.6.9-15, thanks to @rancid musk!)

[rancid temple]

Which day?

[wanton pebble]

Saturday

[rancid temple]

SVE only adds Saturday schedules to Sandy as far as I can tell

Though none of them seem to put her anywhere near the farm, so now sure how she's getting there

I know you can cause NPC's to warp and screw up their pathfinding in one fell swoop by putting a schedule end point on a warp

[calm nebula]

Get a player log

Do they have any thing editing the busstop

At all

[wanton pebble]

I have the log

but somehow I didn't check the busstop

one mo

blinks

[hard fern]

Uh oh?

[wanton pebble]

that's the wrong thing

one sec

17:43:04    TRACE    SMAPI    Content Patcher edited Maps/BusStop (for the 'Stardew Valley Expanded' content pack).
17:43:04    TRACE    SMAPI    Content Patcher edited Maps/BusStop (for the 'Ridgeside Village (Content Patcher component)' content pack).
17:43:04    TRACE    SMAPI    Content Patcher edited Maps/BusStop (for the 'Frontier Farm' content pack).

Just SVE, RSV, and Frontier, so nothing major

[hard fern]

Hm, but those should all be compatible with each other?

[wanton pebble]

Yep

Their log is https://smapi.io/log/d4ba1c9f366842c89ef2293e9dc5338f for the record

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 38 C# mods and 22 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[wanton pebble]

I see the Vortex deployment thing, so it might be Vortex screwing stuff up

[gentle rose]

nvm I am dumb and need to sleep

but why is event lookup loading a _international version of every asset

[teal bridge]

It's just how the content pipeline works. First it tries locale, then language, then international, then default.

[calm nebula]

Ask them to check English

SvE in thr past had replaces for translation

[tight rivet]

Hm. In fun times: ""Id": "KAYA.KoreaBlossomCP_SpringSeeds",
"ItemId": "ALL_ITEMS (O)"," is not working

turns game offa nd back on again

I feel sometimes Cornucopia was not the best method and I should have iterated through each item ID

... hm

Yeah, I'm just going to specify the items directly.

angrish noises

(I don't know how to test the GSQ itself, or I'd just do that)

[ivory plume]

You can run debug iq ALL_ITEMS (O) in the SMAPI console window to test an item query, and debug gq GAME_QUERY_HERE to test a game state query.

[tight rivet]

ah, will do, thanks!

That.. would explain why it's not working.

... oh.

I think I know what's wrong.

Wait, no, the GSQ shouldn't be failing that way.

But I'll check

.. hm. I'll just chunk up the json so I can ask for help I think.

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a76651779c184f72a01b2a4efca15d5d I can't figure out where this is failing. I can see the context tag exists, I can see by patch exporting Data/Shops it's adding it but I think it's not adding the seeds and is adding two items I do not understand why

[uncut viper]

you need commas between your queries

as is its looking for items that have every ccontext tag listed, including the !ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG tag and the Target context tag

since without the comma its all part of the first ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG query

[tight rivet]

ah

... that woudl explain it

thanks

[ivory plume]

My new favorite support question on a mod page:

@ pathoschild why can't I use it?

(That's all the info provided.)

[tight rivet]

We all know you have a crystal ball

apparently

[uncut viper]

"Probably because."

[hard fern]

😭

[gentle rose]

"yes"

[mighty wyvern]

does anyone know how to change house upgrade prices using the content patcher? srry for bad english

[modest dagger]

your english was fine

[uncut viper]

you cant change those with content patcher

[modest dagger]

you can't?

[uncut viper]

do you mean the renovations?

[mighty wyvern]

thanks

[mighty wyvern]

oh, ok

[uncut viper]

or do you mean the upgrades that give you a kitchen and a cellar?

[mighty wyvern]

this upgrades

[uncut viper]

then yeah, those are hardcoded values

you would need C# to change them

[mighty wyvern]

oh ok, thanks

[versed wyvern]

Brainstorming a hokey bug workaround about events I'm not super knowledgeable about here, but for events are quickQuestion commands capable of all the same forking responses and effects as the usual $q and $r commands?

[uncut viper]

#modded-stardew might know of a mod that already exists that lets you configure it if you just wanted to download one. no guarantees though

[mighty wyvern]

i will take a look

[tiny zealot]

i think you can do anything inside a quickQuestion, but i wouldn't try doing another quickQuestion.
in fact if you want to do anything complex i recommend using switchEvent to jump to new event keys where you don't have to worry about (break) and \\

[lucid iron]

anyone know off hand where the NPC chatter code lives

i.e. when they have a little bubble over their head instead of full dialog box

[uncut viper]

NPC.showTextAboveHead and whatever calls it

[versed wyvern]

Hmm, okay, so it should be able to possible to replace most instances of an NPC asking you a question with a quickQuestion with the same effects

[uncut viper]

its used in 20 places per ilspy

[lucid iron]

ty btn im glad u have working ilspy

[uncut viper]

it helps that i knew where to look off the bat too bc i used it for BETAS and my books mod

[lucid iron]

wait i didnt realise the book mod used that

[uncut viper]

yeah the junimo book makes junimos on your farm into little chatterboxes

[lucid iron]

wow

i had assumed its 1.6 all this time, amazing

[uncut viper]

i will take that as a great compliment

[brittle pasture]

do they demand that you pay them a wage

[uncut viper]

technically they do in a very cutesy way

sometimes when they harvest a crop theyll say "Is for me?"

the people translating it have been very good at keeping that improper cutesy grammar from what i can tell

[versed wyvern]

Oh, wait... can quickQuestion even be used outside of events?

[tough crater]

nope

[versed wyvern]

Well that nukes that option then

[tough crater]

There's another one that functions similarly in dialogue!

[uncut viper]

(im looking at the i18n files for my books mod to remember what all the junimos can say and i have no memory of this:
"Dialogue.JunimoScrap.Harvest.1": "{0}",
what is the point of this. why did i do this)

[tough crater]

$y <Question>_<Answer1>_<NPCAnswer1>_<Answer2>_<NPCAnswer2>

[versed wyvern]

Ah, I saw that but it specified it can't be used for friendship changes

Thanks for the info though y'all

[lucid iron]

what does textAboveHeadStyle do

[uncut viper]

i feel like when i was testing it it did nothing

theres no instance in the game of it being anything other than 2

though, apparently setting it to 0 i think makes it bob up and down?

Vector2 local = Game1.GlobalToLocal(new Vector2(standingPixel.X, (float)standingPixel.Y - 128f + (float)base.yJumpOffset));
if (base.textAboveHeadStyle == 0)
{
  local += new Vector2(Game1.random.Next(-1, 2), Game1.random.Next(-1, 2));
}

[tiny zealot]

i would guess that's a shake effect if this is in the draw stack somewhere

[uncut viper]

this is the only way textAboveHeadStyle is ever read and its 0 in both cases, one for Junimos and one for NPC in general

so i dont know why normal style is 2

it is in drawAboveAlwaysFrontLayer

[tiny zealot]

ok yeah so that would make it jitter around every frame

[uncut viper]

maybe when i tested it i only tried 1, thinking that there would be different things for every number 0-2 instead of skipping 1 for no reason. what a dumb assumption for me to make

[lucid iron]

just sdv things

[tight rivet]

Today in: Maybe I shouldn't have done this: the seeds wont plant. c.c

category is -74, type is "Seeds"

to the documentation!

[rancid temple]

Is your Data/Crops patch correct?

[tight rivet]

.. hm.

That's a good question. 🤔

Answer: No.

[uncut viper]

[aggressively greets you]

[rancid temple]

Haley does seem like the right person for this level of excitement

[uncut viper]

it was a nice little coincidence too bc i didnt know what colour itd be before i hit record, i typed in a random hex code

[tight rivet]

That is neat

hm. Okay, I can't actualyl figure out what's wrong. Patch/reloading does not appear to make it appear, so I'm going to also check to make sure the file is being included

That was the culprit. :V

the crops was the wrong format too, so I guess this was a good way to find out!

[velvet narwhal]

is this another BETAS feature

[uncut viper]

this is an old BETAS feature

but the jittering is new

[velvet narwhal]

the colored text?

[uncut viper]

yeah it could always do that

that answers my next question though i was about to ask if you used it

bc i wanna change the order of the parameters

[velvet narwhal]

oh well i am main shill and yet i haven't touched any other functions

tbh you can do whatever you want at this point since i announced the retirement of the big boy mod that's dependent on it

[uncut viper]

i will commit a "do as i say not as i do" now then and change the order to make sure Colour still goes last

[tight rivet]

hey, some of the crops are working now. Progress! 😄

[velvet narwhal]

it didn't even get to live a year smh i now see why there weren't other dialogue expansions in english before me

[teal bridge]

Seems more afraid than excited to me.

[rancid temple]

I knew a few people in school who were so bubbly that if they had speech bubbles they would vibrate

[teal bridge]

Shivering in terror.

[rocky anchor]

Hey crew, I changed my season in-game using world_setseason, but after I triggered an event for testing, I checked the SMAPI console for patch settings and it looks like Content Patcher didn't consider the season changed?

Is that expected?

[vernal crest]

Did you sleep in game after changing the season?

[rocky anchor]

Nup

That make sense though, thanks

[tight rivet]

Hm. I'll go through seeds one more time but some of the crops aren't appearing

the assets exist, the data/crops shows they point to the right as set..

Oh. Wait

I bet it's something simple like they should be two crops wide not one. c.c

..yep

I'll go fix my spritesheet lol

[tiny zealot]

you can also get CP to refresh its tokens by running patch update

[vernal crest]

Dangit I forgot how I blanked out Lewis's dialogue

[old edge]

So far got everything working with solid foundations and my C# code appears to be functioning correctly.

Now I need ideas for skins for my cellar

Skins for the doors that open and close

The fun part

So far I got dreamy with one cloud and some stars and a swirl

[vernal crest]

Okay I tested this myself and got the same problem, in that using "Rainy_Day_{{Random:{{Range:0,4}}}}" (there is no Rainy_Day_5 by the way, at least according to the wiki) generated one key per day (Rainy_Day_4 on the first day I tested and Rainy_Day_1 the second). If the game doesn't happen to pick that key to use that day, it pulls the generic Rainy_Day_X line from Characters/Dialogue/MarriageDialogue instead.

I can see that Pathos already weighed in on this and gave you the answer that you do need one of each key so I guess my testing was totally unnecessary but I did have fun so oh well haha

[dim yew]

When an event command asks for a “layer” field, how do you write the map layer? Is it just a plain string or do you have to specify something else? I’m trying to put an object on a table in an event and it’s not showing up 😰

Me relearning how to mod every 4 months:

[velvet narwhal]

what command are you talking about

changeMapTile?

addToTable <x> <y> <object ID>
addProp <prop index> <x> <y> [solid width] [solid height] [display height]
addFloorProp <prop index> <x> <y> [solid width] [solid height] [display height]
if you're adding something you'd probably just use the addtotable command

[dim yew]

I was using addobject in an event to add something from springobjects

I’m pretty sure addtotable is like, not used ever haha

[velvet narwhal]

layer probably means the layer you mean to put it on as if you're in the tmx, so Buildings/Back/Front?

but it's also optional since it's [layer]

[dim yew]

I put AlwaysFront but it’s not showing so either I got something else wrong or the layer needs to be an integer or something idk

[uncut viper]

its actually layer depth and not a layer

so its a float

[velvet narwhal]

euh

player is at what, 1f?

[uncut viper]

i dont really understand layer depths

so idk. bigger = more on top ig maybe fuck if i know

[calm nebula]

It's the y coordinate divided by 10,000

1f is the front lol

[uncut viper]

y coordinate multiplied by 64

[calm nebula]

Y coordinate in pixel space

[dim yew]

Damn 😭

Okay so how do I push the springobject to the front if it’s the layer depth and not the map layer

[uncut viper]

make it 1 i suppose

[dim yew]

All im tryna do is put a pizza on a counter LOL

[uncut viper]

i approve of this

navi trinket...

[lucid iron]

fear

[uncut viper]

i think it would be cute

[velvet narwhal]

need audio cue

will record myself for you

[uncut viper]

how conditional can i make the dialogue

[lucid iron]

well i supported sound since 1.0.0

rn the dialogue works by activation on ability

which can take GSQ

[uncut viper]

hmm

[lucid iron]

this test one has the "footstep" proc so it shows whenever i walk

[uncut viper]

could i have a trinket whose ability is to do nothing but activates when you ge close to an enemy to say "hey watch out!"

[lucid iron]

no particular cond

u can make it do 1 damage

[uncut viper]

assuming i have a GSQ for detecting proximity to an enemy

[lucid iron]

and so it'll proc when its close enough

[uncut viper]

why not 0

can i make the projectile invisible

[lucid iron]

i think i explictly banned that

[uncut viper]

no fun /lh

[lucid iron]

the ability i speak of is hitscan

which is u know, do damage directly

no projectile to begin with

[uncut viper]

fair

[lucid iron]

ig u can have it do 10ms stun or smth instead

[uncut viper]

i am taking this under consideration

[velvet narwhal]

tbh i did think about it

and that one person who wanted to make the master sword from zoldo could probably make it a trinket trinker

[uncut viper]

i still need to get to my other trinker tinket idea

[lucid iron]

hng multiplayer testing

hnnnnnnng docs

why can i just ship things

[uncut viper]

oh yeah i think theres no chance of automatic syncing of textabovehead

so good luck

[uncut viper]

on the bright side, its very simplp- huh

intriguing

[lucid iron]

oh dw trinkets arent even npcs to begin with

[uncut viper]

it managed to completely stop my train of thought in its tracks

[lucid iron]

so i just made my own thing to call SpriteText.drawStringWithScrollCenteredAt

im surprised u dont know about the ship it squirrel

[uncut viper]

do i want to know why this surprises you

[lucid iron]

its a emote on github iirc

[uncut viper]

"emote on github" as a sentence/concept itself makes absolutely no sense to me

[lucid iron]

im sorry for derailing ur train of thought i hope u can put it back

[uncut viper]

no its gone now its fine

i think its irrelevant after u said you were calling drawstringwhatever yourself anyway

[lucid iron]

this does mean i didnt implement the shake

[calm nebula]

.... I'm going to sleep

[uncut viper]

im putting in a feature request for the shake right now

[gaunt orbit]

👆 The biggest reason mumps is stuck in dev hell. (Though, I'm considering renaming it)

[hard fern]

Oh my

[lucid iron]

i did this cus it occur to me that i am make bootleg npc adventures here

so the companions ought to be able to talk

[uncut viper]

can i give them gifts

[lucid iron]

no i aint touching that

cus again, companions arent npc

[rancid temple]

But what about powering them up with different food buffs

[uncut viper]

they dont need to be NPC for you to handle right clicking them with a gift

[rancid temple]

Feeding them different things every day to change their IVs and EVs

[uncut viper]

i would like to give my trinkets gift tastes please

[lucid iron]

yea but how is this control suposed to work in gamepad

[uncut viper]

same way it works for NPCs id assume

[lucid iron]

u cant walk into a companion, not easily anyhow

[uncut viper]

check for a gamepad button press

gamepads also can use a cursor

[lucid iron]

that sounds very annoying

[rancid temple]

Make a menu

[tiny zealot]

we've got MUMPS. there's an MMR. when will someone backronym their way into MEASLES

[rancid temple]

Where you can feed and customize your companion

[uncut viper]

while you're at it can you just let me have a pokemon style 6 trinket team

[lucid iron]

but anyways i suppose u can do some funny stuff with item use trigger proc + action to achieve gifting

[uncut viper]

that i can give items

and level up

[dim yew]

Have any total conversion mods been released for SDV thus far? (Also hi ichor!!!!)

[lucid iron]

and they can have a little animation proc'd on "receiving" the gift

[uncut viper]

i dont think you'd be able to remove the item

unless you hardcoded specific gifts

[lucid iron]

you would consume the item

[tiny zealot]

squiddonaut! hello!

[dim yew]

Hiiii!!!

[uncut viper]

how would you handle the consumption part

[lucid iron]

although, there's no stateful things on trinkets besides the level and the variant

[tiny zealot]

fireredlily is doing some degree of total conversion which is turning all of the NPCs into zelda characters. that's the most ambitious one i know of

[lucid iron]

so yea its just not designed as a character to interact with, and thus has no real system to support any of that

[dim yew]

Me wishfully thinking about a total conversion mod where you grow human crops on a colonized alien planet 🙈

[lucid iron]

the "bootleg npc adventure" is more like, u would interact with the npc form of a character

until they give u their trinket that u can take into caves or whatever

theres gotta be sdv in space right

[uncut viper]

whats Haley's trinket

[dim yew]

DON’T JAIL ME my ambition knows no bounds, I will break out of prison 😈

[lucid iron]

casey has that moon mod

but it's supposed to be a expansion not conversion

[tiny zealot]

a compact, i would think

[uncut viper]

... a car?

[tiny zealot]

a little case with a mirror for holding makeup stuff

[uncut viper]

oh. i didnt know those were called compacts

i would make it something to do with photography personally

a camera trinket that stuns enemies with its flash would be cute

[tiny zealot]

ice rod at home

[finite sequoia]

Void I just want u to know. You saved my ass here and you should be very proud of urself 😇

[uncut viper]

wouldnt it be better since it doesnt have to hit anything

[lucid iron]

it could be better than ice rod if its hit scan

cus its light speed

[uncut viper]

and room wide

[tiny zealot]

true. ice rod also prevents knockback which is insanely good

[lucid iron]

haley reaping the souls of slimes with her camera

[velvet narwhal]

trinket trinker trying to be the main framework i'm depending on for my "with the power of all of my friends, die" event

[lucid iron]

why would u use it for that

u only got 1 slot

[velvet narwhal]

so i don't have to animate the npcs during the fight

[uncut viper]

only got one slot with vanilla

[lucid iron]

[velvet narwhal]

can i false equip it

[uncut viper]

craft one of every trinket into the ultimate friendship trinket that does all of their effects and has multiple things following you at once

[lucid iron]

i mean i suppose u can hard reference me to take my anim systems

but like, why tho.

[uncut viper]

terraria style crafting tree

[lucid iron]

just do like purseowner eye cutins or some shit

[uncut viper]

i do think the idea of the NPCs giving you a special them trinket is very cute though im gonna do that for my NPC

[lucid iron]

it'll be cool

[velvet narwhal]

also, don't tempt me, i would definitely do this

[tiny zealot]

one day i will work on the snorlax trinket so i can bring my big friend with me

[uncut viper]

i think everyone with an NPC should

cough

[velvet narwhal]

i don't think the forge would let me put in 30 trinkets, nor would my brain be able to wrap around the configuration of how to put all 30 into 1

[lucid iron]

re fake equipping it though, i suspect it's not actually that bad

[uncut viper]

oh i was thinking regular crafting

[velvet narwhal]

oh

[lucid iron]

Game1.player.trinketItems is a list

[velvet narwhal]

i think the stupid ui will cut me off

[lucid iron]

ur in C# so just shove fake things in there

and yeet them once u be out da fight

but as mentioned b4 i havent rly made attempt to make multiple companions make sense

the'd prob just stack on the same spot

civ 4

[uncut viper]

could add some random offset to their angle based on their index in trinketItems

[lucid iron]

one day i'll give companions real collision mayhaps

but then i will become the thing i always hated in vidya, party members stuck on walls

[uncut viper]

that would be strange i think isnt real collision the exception

like just villagers and maybe the horse but im not sure about the horse

[lucid iron]

oh i mean, companions r currently just intangible

they zip where they want and i was like this is fine

[uncut viper]

that also seems fine to me tbh

[lucid iron]

its a lil weird for companions that seem like they'd be "grounded"

[uncut viper]

does the vanilla frog have collision?

[lucid iron]

not that i know of?

really it's only wacky bc trinket tinker companions have the ability to chase things

so sometimes a foraging companion would just phase through a cliff bc they detected horseradish

[uncut viper]

do you actually have them pathfind or do they just beeline in screen space

[lucid iron]

they just zoom yea no path find

it was fairly low on the list of "thing to make work" compared to just making sure it doesnt explode multiplayer

so yes eventually make some path find algo, would prob have to be a custom non grid based one

[uncut viper]

what would it be if not grid based

[lucid iron]

the player is not grid based

[uncut viper]

i dont think the player uses a pathfinder

[lucid iron]

companions are, for most purposes, an extension of the player

and therefore i need a non grid based path finder

cant just yoink the npc one

[uncut viper]

well

why not

[lucid iron]

design choices + players like walking diag

[uncut viper]

but you could pathfind from the players point using the games pathfinder

[lucid iron]

i feel it'd be a lil jank

[uncut viper]

or maybe easier, reverse pathfind from the monster to the player

and have the trinket follow it backwards

[lucid iron]

to suddenly be grid obeying

[uncut viper]

i just wasnt sure how else you'd detect where the walls are

[lucid iron]

but well, atm i just dont want to do it™️

it seems like a lot of effort for a small thing

[uncut viper]

thats like my entire modding career

[lucid iron]

theres other small things of lesser effort and perhaps greater reward

[brittle ledge]

Don't you owe us a cool underwater expansion first?

[dim yew]

The funny thing is

Its almost done

;)

[brittle ledge]

are the i18n keys for configs in the CP docs?

[uncut viper]

they are but i always forget if theyre in translations.md or config.md

[velvet narwhal]

yeah

[uncut viper]

you can also just use normal i18n for em too though if you forget

[deep cypress]

I reckon there was a new update today?

[latent mauve]

Malon's Epona heart event is officially complete and working!

[lucid iron]

[latent mauve]

The only thing that would improve my heart event is if I can figure out how to make it look like the horse is eating a carrot

[lucid iron]

can u use the hons anim as it is

[brittle ledge]

if the horse is a temp actor, just draw some frames of it eating and do an animation

[latent mauve]

I can use the animations, but the carrot animation is just the face, so it's weird

Yeah, I think I'd have to add animation frames with the face attached to the full horse sprite

[tiny zealot]

hons

[uncut viper]

hons homf

[velvet narwhal]

god i hope iro internally called that lizard : horse something cursed like limzard

[teal bridge]

Hozard? Lizarse?

[velvet narwhal]

damn these are pretty good honzamd is also pretty good

[brittle ledge]

no json validation, we die like warriors

[latent mauve]

As a bonus, I can now use a condition for the stable mail that's directly related to having seen the event, so that's nice.

[brittle ledge]

update: we died

[brittle ledge]

!choose release mod tomorrow, fuck it we ball

oh ffs

is it .choose

.choose release mod tomorrow, fuck it we ball

[patent lance]

Choose result: fuck it we ball

[brittle ledge]

OKAY

[shut edge]

do we have to do anything special to add our own context tags or is it just throw it in there and it exists now?

like if i want to add my own context tag to items

[rigid oriole]

just throw it in there

[pine ermine]

So, I was reading the wiki trying to figure out how large eggs and large milk work, and it was kinda vague about when you can get them.
Three hours later, I have delved into the game's code and now I know a little too much about the many different ways there are to raise friendship with animals, but I still haven't found when I can get large milk and large eggs,

[brittle pasture]

FarmAnimal.dayUpdate
there's a whole formula in there determining whether you get the deluxe or regular produce

it's also explained on this page: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Animal_data

[latent mauve]

This is probably a silly question, but do tokens work inside event speak commands?

Specifically wondering about i18n for a name or if I need to do the full line

[uncut viper]

tokens will never be seen by the actual game itself

all tokens get replaced with their actual values before the game sees them

so they work wherever

with very very limited exceptions

[pine ermine]

I use them everywhere inside my couple events dialogue :P

You can use tokens anywhere inside event code.

[pine ermine]

I saw the code, but now I see that the actual parameters I'm looking for are stored in a separate file rather than hard coded.

[brittle pasture]

yes, animal data (I linked it above)

[pine ermine]

which makes sense tbh

apparently you can get them whenever :/ (it's just very rare I bet)

[rocky anchor]

Can someone show me an example of how to have my CP mod edit the correct language-dependent sprite file (eg JunimoNote.es-ES for a Spanish game)? Or is it easier to just have it patch all of the JunimoNote files?

[uncut viper]

CP will automatically patch all language variants by default

[brittle pasture]

Yes, but with zero friendship it's be like 0.0001% chance

[uncut viper]

if you really need to apply a patch specifically to one languages assets, you can use the TargetLocale field

but in all likelihood you dont need to do that

you can also just make When conditions that check the language

[pine ermine]

Doesn't the base game just localize the entire event string instead of just parts of it?

(more related to fire's question)

[uncut viper]

well if you're adding it with Content Patcher odds are you are not putting the entire event string into the i18n

so its up to you to make sure each part of it is correctly i18n'd

[latent mauve]

Honestly the next thing I am going to try to do is see if I can target a specific event command for replacement for the ones I intend to keep the same

So all I am updating is the names spoken

(looking at you, Egg Hunt "Abigail!")

[uncut viper]

if its an internal name you should be able to do that with ReplaceDelimited, depending

if its not an internal name then it can still be used but is not as helpful

bc it wont cover all languages

[latent mauve]

I am not changing internal names, no

Specifically only the name if it is spoken

[uncut viper]

then yeah the options would be ReplaceDelimited and manually patching differently for each language, or editing the specific field number and hoping no one messes with the order of event commands there

[latent mauve]

I feel like attempting to change internal names of vanilla NPCs is the road to terrible things happening

[uncut viper]

oh no i didnt mean that but i meant like, if a command was like /speak Haley or whatever, you could easily replace Haley with, say, Abigail

[velvet narwhal]

i don't think that's actually feasible in cp

[latent mauve]

Ah, ok

[velvet narwhal]

the changing their internal names* i mean

[latent mauve]

Yeah, I am going to manually change who is in an event rather than trying to use replace delimited for that

[velvet narwhal]

unless you mean nulling their data/character, then that's just chaos

[uncut viper]

you can change their internal names, if you count deleting the original

(10 out of 10 doctors agree thats a terrible idea though)

[latent mauve]

LOL

Yeah, no

[pine ermine]

I imagine that would cause so many mod incompatibility issues

[velvet narwhal]

pathos'd probably hit you with 5-6 "really"s in the "that's a bad idea" sentence

[uncut viper]

i think mod compat would be the least of your worries

[latent mauve]

Honestly at this point I am confident enough in my Custom NPC skills that I could make all of them new NPCs rather than replacements but that would require more maps.

[velvet narwhal]

the eternal struggle

[uncut viper]

if you dont wanna make them new maps, i hear someone made a really nice apartment recently for new NPCs

[latent mauve]

Future release version maybe once I get the first one out the door

Haha, but it's not reskinned for Zelda

😛

[uncut viper]

but it could be

the other NPCs wont question it im sure

[pine ermine]

👆

[latent mauve]

I am less than 5 portraits and 20 sprites away from finishing the art

I am not adding more now xD

[velvet narwhal]

i have not touched a single character sprite, i'm in a world of pain

[latent mauve]

(I gave up on passed out Shane/Ingo portrait pose and just gave him the anime "turning green" effect instead)

But it works!

[velvet narwhal]

i have never looked at what ingo looks like but that's just waluigi /lh

[latent mauve]

Let's be real, Talon and Ingo were Mario/Waluigi references anyway

I will be glad to be done the portraits, I find the sprites way more enjoyable

I don't have to be quite as accurate there

And I don't want to jump between them because I risk losing my art style's consistency

[velvet narwhal]

except i hate thinking about leg movements of sprites

[pine ermine]

I think leg movements are one of the banes of animation in general.

That and obnoxiously long and flowy hair

Now that I've thought about it, I eagerly await the day someone creates a hair physics mod.

[velvet narwhal]

wdym

[pine ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/paperland-pals-paperland-neo-hair-gif-25153849

[velvet narwhal]

there is an animated hairstyles for fashion sense, it's not exactly perfectly timed for the farmer but it's got really good animations

[pine ermine]

huh, that is pretty good actually

not dynamic though :P

[velvet narwhal]

actual actual physics might, uh, be An Endeavor™️

[sweet geyser]

hello !!

[hard fern]

Hi

You want to make mods?

[sweet geyser]

yeah ;_;

im totally new at this and i looked through the links here and there

i want to add a new npc to marry

if anyone could point me to learning how to do that !

[fossil osprey]

I don't think we have a command for NPC creation?
But you could try to lookup how other mods do it, that would be a first step

[hard fern]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[hard fern]

We do!

[sweet geyser]

tysm !!!

[nimble marlin]

Guys, I was working on a mod for the last few months but I saw that a few days ago a mod that does the same thing was posted on Nexus. Should I discontinue my mod? I'm not sure if it would be bad If I posted a mod that is basically the same thing as another mod that was already posted

[gray bear]

!twocakes

[ocean sail]

If you discover that someone has made or is making a mod with a similar concept to yours, don't stress! Our community promotes the idea of "two cakes", where two versions of the same idea can peacefully co-exist. Your mod will have your own unique stamp on it that makes it special.

To use this command, type !twocakes.

[gray bear]

Having a mod thats similar to another isnt a crime

[fossil osprey]

There is a chance some details are different, and even so people will never complain about having two different mods ^^ worst that can happen is people wondering what's the difference

[sweet geyser]

can i just write down a manifest json in any notes app??

[modest dagger]

(unless yours is low effort and does the exact same thing)

[fossil osprey]

Well yes, as long as it's called manifest.json

[brave fable]

if you can do the exact same thing with even less effort that sounds like a win

[sweet geyser]

is there a specific app that i can use

[fossil osprey]

Just notepad is enough (or gedit depending on your OS)

[sweet geyser]

okie thank u sm !!

[hard fern]

tbh, notepad isnt the best

[sweet geyser]

i googled and apparently notepad++ is what was recommended

[modest dagger]

go with that

[uncut viper]

if you use notepad (not recommended) you have to make sure you save it as All Files and manually name it .json

[sweet geyser]

oh, is there smth you recommend?

[uncut viper]

Notepad++ or VSCode are the usuals here

[sweet geyser]

okie ill use notepad++

[nimble marlin]

I never thought like this before, I'm glad that I got to know about the "two caves" idea, it made me feel better. Thank you both! 😊

[sweet geyser]

thank you !!!

[sweet geyser]

about fireredlily's npc builder, what exactly do i do with it? is it code??

sorry for the trouble !!

[velvet narwhal]

Technically you should read cp docs first otherwise you'll be lost in the sauce

!cp

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[velvet narwhal]

Remind me in 17 hours to combine the sandwich analogy and buttons json toy into a command

[patent lance]

don't you have like a cell phone or something aviroen? it can do the same gosh darn thing and then I can be lazy. but okay, I'm on it. (#6463871) (17h | <t:1736390609>)

[uncut viper]

(i would personally rather it not be bundled into a command just for that as it's really meant to be much more general and eventually a part of a larger collection)

[velvet narwhal]

Sandwich analogy it is (on its own)

Actually I can probably do uhh

.remove timer 6463871

[patent lance]

Restricted to server owner. (use .timer remove if you're just trying to remove your own timers)

[velvet narwhal]

.timer remove 6463871

[patent lance]

Timer removed.

[sweet geyser]

thank you !!

i didnt realise how much new stuff id have to learn ;00

its fun though

[sweet geyser]

does anyone use stardewxnbhack??

[vernal crest]

I think almost everyone uses it for unpacking

[rancid temple]

It's the go-to for general unpacking, unxwb is used for unpacking the audio files

[sweet geyser]

oh okay thank you

i wanted to ask, i have my stardew application in the desktop folder,, so do i download the stardewxnbhack in there?? my game folder doesnt have the application file in it

[wispy bramble]

It should go in the same place your Content folder is

[sweet geyser]

oh okie thank you !!

[brittle ledge]

I put it on the main page of the tutorials category since it's a general/overarching thing, is that okay?

[sweet geyser]

do mod creators do joint projects T_T

[lucid iron]

Some people do

[sweet geyser]

cool

[lucid iron]

Though it's more common to see people just commission stuff

[sweet geyser]

ooh we can dothat

[unique sigil]

usually for bigger expansions

[sweet geyser]

hmm commissioning sounds nice but i want to work on it myself too

im not opposed to learning the complicated stuff

[unique sigil]

!commissions if you want the list of eligible mod authors

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[sweet geyser]

but having a partner who does it with me would be nice

[sweet geyser]

thank u !! will def look into that

[lucid iron]

It's just whether u want to pay other ppl to do bits u don't or can't do yourself

[sweet geyser]

ah okie okie

yeah thats def gonna be helpful

[unique sigil]

partnering up would be difficult if you don't have an existing portfolio (previous art, mods on nexus, etc etc)

[sweet geyser]

that makes sense

[unique sigil]

or if you're not active/known in the community!

[sweet geyser]

well, ill just learn as i go and hopefully i can make something

[unique sigil]

!anyonecancook

[ocean sail]

To use this command, type !anyonecancook.

[lucid iron]

Rmbr dont scope creep urself

[sweet geyser]

pixel art is fun so yay for that

[lucid iron]

(lies the scope creep is eternal)

[sweet geyser]

hehe thanks !!

[unique sigil]

many frameworks out there have good guides, the modding wiki is pretty thorough, and content patcher can do a LOT

[lucid iron]

What do you want to make anyway

[sweet geyser]

yess i saw

its super helpful

[unique sigil]

you just have to find what you want to make and the motivation to complete your projects

[sweet geyser]

im sure i can figure it out given enough time

[unique sigil]

and the willingness to learn new stuff along the way, of course

if it's art feel free to share WIPs and ask for input in #making-mods-art , and ask around here for other technical details!

[sweet geyser]

tyttyyy

^_^

[oblique meadow]

Im a little late to the party, but be ready to hit some walls at first. Though this channel is pretty good for help (provided you've done your due dilligence first 😉 )

[drowsy pewter]

You should nake sure to share your crash log if you mention a crash

[oblique meadow]

Yeah. I just was thinking that.... I'll have to re-ask when im home and have it :p

[brittle ledge]

You can always start small! I just released a mod that only edits one event, there's plenty of room for little easy mods

[sweet geyser]

of course !! its just that i have this idea and my brain and heart make me wanna do a lot

[gaunt orbit]

Yes, my advice is start small and make something you actually want to use in the game

[sweet geyser]

oh you made jorts and jean??

i loved that mod ^_^ it was so fun

[gaunt orbit]

You're in good company :P
Many of us have graveyards of unfinished mods

[sweet geyser]

i just want my cute monster spouse ngl >_<

[oblique meadow]

Dont do what I did and start with something complicated that makes you really mad a lot hahaha

[sweet geyser]

i get that

[gaunt orbit]

My first few mods were just cp ports of xnb mods. My first original work was a custom greenhouse interior

[sweet geyser]

oooh i see

thats v cool imo

[oblique meadow]

I started with a farmhouse. Not recommended :p

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah farmhouse is a bit complicated

[sweet geyser]

a big project ;00

[gaunt orbit]

Not hard but there's a lot of fiddly bits

[sweet geyser]

oo i see

[oblique meadow]

Im still learning this haha. There's still things I dont understand

[oblique meadow]

Can I ask a dumb question? What's the benefit of using FTM instead of manually coding the stuff into your content file? Is it more convenience than anything? Or is there a perk to it im missing

[drowsy pewter]

FTM has extra features that cant be accomplished with CP mods alone

It depends on what specifically you want to do

[oblique meadow]

I understand that. I guess... Im not sure what those features are. Maybe I need to play with it more to understand it better.

[tawny ore]

One way to think about it is that CP only aims to replicate vanilla behaviors using the data formats that vanilla recognizes. The main thing it does beyond that is it also has a very powerful token system.
Other mods go beyond vanilla. They can implement behaviors that vanilla does not support through its data models.

That's not a very specific answer, but how frameworks go "beyond vanilla" varies depending on it. And FTM has too many things to list, so it's worth researching what those all are.

[oblique meadow]

Its really feeling like its one of those "It does a lot, and you wont really know WHAT it can do until you need it to do it" type situations

[lucid iron]

It's better to just be like hey #making-mods-general how do i do X

There's also that big ol flowchart Elizabeth is making but my point is that idea come first impl later

[oblique meadow]

Oh I know. I already have a farm made. Was just debating if I should change up some of the hardcoded content and swap it to FTM. So it was something that seemed like a small question that is bigger than I realized. So im going to do some more research and such

[lucid iron]

Fwiw ftm is ubiquitous enough that most people won't care if it's a dependency

The 1.6 location data does have some spawn changing features though

But u r fight vanilla spawns for chance

[tropic stag]

I'm super new to making stardew mods. I already know a lot of C so have been busy working with C# but now I'm seeing it might be hard to do everything in C#. Is it a problem if I also use content patches? Will players have a harder time installing my mod if I have both C# files and content patches?

[rigid oriole]

Lots of mods have both a C# and a content patcher portion! I'd recommend publishing both parts of the mod under the same nexus page (typo said same mod id: they need to have unique ids because SMAPI loads them as separate mods)

[blissful panther]

And I would definitely strongly recommend going C#-first, have your content packs within the C# solution, and using the ModBuildConfig package to deploy/package both at the same time for ease: https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/docs/technical/mod-package.md#bundle-content-packs

[rigid oriole]

I cannot believe there's been a config option in the C# the whole time hello 😭 I've been writing weird build commands

[blissful panther]

So was I until it was added relatively recently!

[tropic stag]

Ah perfect. Thanks guys

[tiny zealot]

👀 what kind of monster

[rigid oriole]

This is actually so much cleaner of a release i'm so glad i learned this

[sweet geyser]

i am SO GLAD you asked

i made some initial ideas for his sprite hehehehhe

sorry idk how to blur pics apologies

im an absolute beginner so no judgement please T_T

[tiny zealot]

ooh, fun!

[sweet geyser]

thanks for asking btw ive been screaming sbt him to everyone

[sweet geyser]

ty ^_^

im just gonna delete that cus

im embarassed

ahem

see ya !

[velvet narwhal]

🫵 can I publicly request meep logs to be trace instead of front facing

[hallow urchin]

Man, this community is friggin amazing... I release a mod and not one day later an user comes by with a Chinese translation, unprompted. For my silly little mod. that's bonkers

[gray bear]

true that

[tawny ore]

It's a double-edged sword because on one hand depending on a framework can often improve the longevity of mods since breaking updates can be handled by the framework, but if the framework ever dies then it takes a lot of mods with it. FTM is so ubiquitous I'd expect it to be supported for the foreseeable future.

[tiny zealot]

if what you have is working, i would put off reevaluating your decision until the situation changes (you find an intractable bug, your mod breaks and needs an update anyway, etc.)

[hallow urchin]

I was wondering, on the topic of using CP vs SMAPI's content API, CP would have more longevity right? Considering it can auto-update older mods to work with newer versions. Or maybe SMAPI does something similar as well?

I suppose that would only apply when talking about mods that exclusively change content and don't have custom logic

[tiny zealot]

SMAPI does rewrite mods when e.g. method signatures change

[hallow urchin]

Oh!

[tiny zealot]

it also handles a few things to make cross-platform modding more reliable, which is the same sort of on-the-fly rewriting

[hallow urchin]

Man, I should donate to SMAPI when I have the chance

[tiny zealot]

actually maybe the directory separator stuff is compile time. unsure about that one in particular

i think the main thing about CP versus content api is there are some things that are difficult to impossible in CP that you can do fairly easily in the content api, like apply a change to every item in an asset without having to know what they all are

and likewise, CP has a bunch of really useful features (mostly its tokens) that you would have to reimplement if you wanted to use them via the content api

[hallow urchin]

Yeah it was kind of annoying to work around not having tokens, but since I'm more familiar with C# i prefer to stay on that if there are no downsides

[tiny zealot]

well, you've encountered the major downside

i started my NPC entirely in C# but converted most of it to CP after struggling for a bit

[hallow urchin]

Once I figured out the right syntax to add an action/method callback in the content files, it was all smooth sailing from there

[tiny zealot]

content patcher is generally easier to write (which is why it exists) and the tokens are really helpful, and i was spending a lot of time reimplementing its features but worse

[hallow urchin]

Oh woof I can imagine, if I ever do something bigger like that i'll probably consider CP

for now though I think I found my place in making QOL mods

[oblique meadow]

It "works". In that it works but I dont LIKE how it works and want to make it work better. If that makes sense

[wide flint]

How do i make a simple yes/no popup gamepad compatible? Currently I can only select and click with a mouse.

[hallow urchin]

How did you create the popup?

[tiny zealot]

oh, definitely. in that case research away

[acoustic lintel]

Hey all! I’m new to modding and have hit a bump in the road that I can’t figure out how to fix. Hoping someone might have an idea of what could be wrong... Got a custom npc and custom location both working (location is a house I added to the backwoods map) he spawns correctly inside the house follows his schedule when inside, but he won’t go outside if I schedule it. And if I force him to go outside by scheduling him to walk into the warp tile, he does end up outside but still won’t move from that spot. I feel like I’ve tried everything I’m at a loss T_T

[tiny zealot]

ah! the problem is you have used the Backwoods map

Backwoods is on a blocklist. NPCs are forbidden to path to/through it

[acoustic lintel]

Ohhh nooo 😭😭

[hallow urchin]

wa really? why?

[acoustic lintel]

So many hours wasted

[tiny zealot]

sorry to be the bearer of bad news!

[acoustic lintel]

It’s kinda good news in a way because at least I know what the problem is. Thank you so much for letting me know you’re a lifesaver

I’ll get back to work 😭

[tiny zealot]

Backwoods is not contiguous without the community shortcut, and would introduce a loop with it. in both situations it wreaks havoc on the (bad) NPC pathfinding algorithm

[acoustic lintel]

Before I do are there any other areas I can’t use??

[hallow urchin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28044 I haven't tried out this mod but apparently someone made an NPC living in the backwoods, I wonder how they did it?

maybe it's due to the fact it's a custom map

[velvet narwhal]

The eternal struggle of, "reimplementing cp"

[hard fern]

well, the farm for one, but idk why you'd put your npc on the farm

[tiny zealot]

you can work around the problem by creating NPCWarps that take your NPC from their map/home straight to another map (typically Mountain), and back likewise if you want them to go home, but you won't ever see them on Backwoods so you have to deal with that in your own way (or not, if it doesn't bother you)

Woods (the secret woods) was blocked in 1.5 but i hear it was unblocked in 1.6. i haven't checked myself

[acoustic lintel]

Ok gotcha. I’ll have a look into npc warps to test that out first. Thank you!!

[velvet narwhal]

Island West might also be blocked

Because of the farm there

[acoustic lintel]

Gotcha. Thank you!

[wanton pebble]

They probably didn't

[tiny zealot]

drumroll

        /// <summary>The location names which NPCs aren't allowed to warp through.</summary>
        /// <remarks>The farmhand cellars are added automatically.</remarks>
        public static readonly HashSet<string> IgnoreLocationNames = new HashSet<string> { "Backwoods", "Cellar", "Farm" };```

[lament shell]

shucks... my cellar npc is out of the question.

[wanton pebble]

gasp Cellar isn't pathable???

[velvet narwhal]

I will now cause chaos in island maps

[wanton pebble]

I suppose it makes sense but boooo

[velvet narwhal]

[wanton pebble]

...are events blocked in cellar? Asking for a friend

[wide flint]

Creating my own instance of IClickableMenu.

[velvet narwhal]

Most likely not you'd just low load a blank

[lament shell]

why cant i just have a rat that gives you fun facts living in the cellar, unfair

[velvet narwhal]

Or cheat and temp map it

[wanton pebble]

Nah. I refuse to cheat that

[velvet narwhal]

You want the farmer's chaos put out in front view 🤝

[wanton pebble]

It'd really just be for a personal date with spouses I've had on my backburner

Personal since cellar mods bad

For eventing that is

[velvet narwhal]

I will never ever do farmhouse/cellar maps

[oblique meadow]

Smart. Speaking from experience.... :p

[tiny zealot]

cellars are instanced i think so you might have trouble loading the events

but that's theory i don't know how they work really

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah I've just deemed it not worth my sanity to viewport that, unless I can remember how to hook the viewport on the player, but even then I can't configure all of the farmhouse interior mods to compensate

[brittle pasture]

I remember this channel doing research a while ago and finding out that instanced maps actually can load events

[velvet narwhal]

I need to figure out the ingredient max on crafting... for reasons

That or I become yet another cog in the machine of transpiling clickableCraftingRecipe

[brittle pasture]

number of ingredients? there was that everything bagel mod that needed 1 of every item in the game

a practical limit probably doesnt exist

[velvet narwhal]

How does that come across in ui though

[brittle pasture]

painfully

[velvet narwhal]

I imagine Not Great™️

Button the enabler made me think of terraria crafting for the ultimate trinket

[uncut viper]

wasn't it only if you used the unique instance name for the event file though. I don't remember even though I'm pretty sure I was one of the ones testing it lol

[velvet narwhal]

How does that even get exposed

[uncut viper]

thanks past me

[brittle pasture]

my memory is long lasting. it is just wrong most of the time

[uncut viper]

I mean I'm not one to talk clearly, you just corrected me with myself

[tiny zealot]

important update: Woods, Backwoods, and Tunnel all have "ExcludeFromNpcPathfinding": true in their Data/Locations entries, which has the same effect, so Woods is still verboten (unless you patch it to false, of course)

[brittle pasture]

I wonder how much mileage we can get out of a "framework" that justs adds the backwoods shortcut bridge by default and enables it for NPC pathfinding

[velvet narwhal]

Idk the market on npcs even though I'm making 22 of them

Where's npc georg @brittle ledge

Were over the holidays so people aren't as invested in making npcs anymore

[lucid iron]

What r some stuff a C# api for trinket tinker should have

The reasons why i didn't make a C# api so far is cus it's targeted for content packs

[velvet narwhal]

I honestly don't know what you'd expose that isn't available to the cp

[lucid iron]

And i been like "well that could just be a gsq/action/item query"

[brittle ledge]

There's two NPCs that I know of in Backwoods (using 0 schedules or not leaving the map) and one in Tunnel

Most people steer away from it because of the pathing issue

[lucid iron]

Even the thing about hidden trinket equip would work well just as a trigger action i feel

[tiny zealot]

oh, didn't the lorax hang out in Backwoods sometimes? or is that one of the ones you were thinking of

[finite sequoia]

As a backwoods NPC modmaker, if you do decide to make a map connected to it, I'd reccomend using NPC only warps to the mountains/bus stop

But never try to actually put your NPCs in the backwoods

[mighty quest]

How do I convert from KeybindList to SButton?

[finite sequoia]

(Didn't read backlog so hopefully this is useful?)

[versed wyvern]

The Desert Festival chef giving us a dish that we auto-eat isn't a function we can use with CP, is it? I'm guessing that's another hard-coded sort of thing

[hard fern]

I know stardrop gets auto munched

[tiny zealot]

there's an event command to make the farmer eat or drink something but i don't think there's a trigger action

@uncut viper unless you put one in BETAS (feature request if you didn't)

[last arch]

Hey everyone! I'm new to modding and I'd like to edit some heart event cutscenes, how can I do that? I haven't found any tutorials online so I figured I'd ask here 😄

[tiny zealot]

[[Modding:Event_data]] the wiki article on event data is pretty technical but it's essential reference material

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data

[last arch]

Thanks, I'll check it out!