making-mods-general

[calm nebula]

Who is also helping with raffadax 1.6

[rancid musk]

(Actually fun? Or fun?)

[next plaza]

Actually fun, I like learning new things

Getting it working in normal VS wasn't fun though, I couldn't get my extension to actually do anything for some reason

Also for some reason the error detecting isn't working right this second

Weird, it was working last time I used it

The language server is running...

[gaunt orbit]

I have a love/hate relationship with writing lexers. I like working with raw data but as soon as the requirements get complicated enough to start requiring complex state management, it rapidly becomes headache-inducing

[next plaza]

Here's a screenshot of when it was working:

Syntax highlighting is still working right now, but the language server doesn't appear to be doing anything

[lucid iron]

could content patcher itself, as it is running in a game session, become lang server

[next plaza]

In theory yeah

[calm nebula]

Eh

You want to validate every patch

[sweet sphinx]

does this look right?

[next plaza]

Though with VSC usually the language server is started in VSC

[calm nebula]

Not just the active ones

If that makes any sense at all

[lucid iron]

yea that does

prob some shenanigans too when u have or dont have certain mod

[brittle pasture]

It does, though you dont strictly need the display name part at the end (it will default to the display name of the product)

[sweet sphinx]

ah, okay

[cyan marsh]

good afternoon

[calm nebula]

Personally I think going the other way would be easier

Making another data structure that transpiles to CP code

But again, lots of those were loose ideas and I haven't given them actual thought in a long timr

[sweet sphinx]

my recipe isn't showing up

[lucid iron]

another data structure hm, might be hard sell to people

man the yaml cp thing only had 60 dls https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27472

i dont really know how2 sell this to ppl either

[sweet sphinx]

I'm well over lvl 4 farming, why isn't it showing?

[iron ridge]

make a popular mod that requires it

[lucid iron]

the ppl this must be "sold" to are mod authors though

[brittle pasture]

(tbh I don't see an immediate benefit for ppl already comfortable with JSON.
For beginners... well, they're better off using JSON because of all the existing tutorials)

[devout kindle]

Quick question, can you make a new mod launch within smapi without restarting?

[rancid musk]

Your unlock condition field isn't correct in your JSON

[sweet sphinx]

damnit

[rancid musk]

It's s Farming 4 not Farming 4

[lucid iron]

not really, the mod list is considered fixed

[sweet sphinx]

oh

[lucid iron]

you can reload mods in various ways though

[next plaza]

Yeah, this is why I don't expect my CP alternative to get any traction.

It can do things CP can't, but still won't be enticing for most people

[hard fern]

If you want to reload there's a command for that right?

[finite ginkgo]

You don't need to do the id twice or have the {} inside of entries, it's a string value, not a data model

[rancid musk]

(Also you might need a trigger I think to unlock it, if you're already at or above level 4? I haven't tested that sort of thing since 1.6 came out.) (I checked, missing recipes are added. I thought so.)

[sweet sphinx]

like this?

[rancid musk]

Yeah

[brittle pasture]

Weird, the recipes in the unpacked game data do use just "Farming 4"

Ah I see what's happening, your JSON is malformed

[brittle pasture]

remove the block around the recipe line

CraftingRecipes is a dict of direct strings to strings, no nesting there

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[rancid musk]

I am literally looking at unpacked 1.6.9 assets right now and it is absolutely s Farming 4, which is backed up by the modding wiki.

[calm nebula]

It's rewritten to be stricter in 1.6.9

In 1.6.8 literally xxx4Farminglolcats

Would work fine

[rancid musk]

lol

[brittle pasture]

ah okay, I'm looking at the private repo on my phone and it isnt updated

[rancid musk]

I might put together a PR for the private repo tomorrow since Pathos said tonight's update will probably be the release build

[brittle pasture]

would that break old mods?

[rancid musk]

Potentially, but I assume Pathos has a rewriter in Content Patcher.

(It seems like the kind of thing Pathos would be on top of, anyways.)

[calm nebula]

So

Very few old mods actually used that. JA handle recipe unlocks internally

And the wiki had a note explicitly telling you it existed and to not use it

Because the level up menu gets too long

[brittle pasture]

💀
https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/blob/master/CP_Mods/Additional_Tree_Equipments/Data/craftingrecipes.json#L8

[rancid musk]

Good news: you get to update your mod within the next few days

[lucid iron]

recipes are scary

[rain basalt]

just hit 20k total unique downloads just 10k more till free premium membership on nexus 🎉

[teal bridge]

I really love the idea of using YAML or honestly anything that's not JSON for this, but if we're being honest, 6 years and 5 million downloads is a whole lot of organizational inertia to overcome. You need a hook of some kind.

[rancid musk]

"Tired of making syntax errors because of quotation marks and commas? Come try YAML and make syntax errors because of indentation instead!"

[rain basalt]

lol whats so hard about json just use a good editor like vscode and your mistakes just get pointed out as you do them

• i think thers more support for json

[rancid musk]

*gestures vaguely to years of messages in #making-mods-general *

[rain basalt]

lol

[brittle pasture]

something something xkcd 2501

[rancid musk]

I've seen people taking pictures of their screens with their phones and they're trying to write json in MS Word

[rain basalt]

word just screws up code i used to try html in word conversion early days

[lucid iron]

i think the main advantage of yaml over json would be multiline strings in event writing

[rain basalt]

mmm mabey for events

[brittle pasture]

(though CP JSON allows that now too)

[next plaza]

(As does SpaceCore's system)

[rain basalt]

anyways to each there own but id still recomend json since the game files unpack into json

[next plaza]

I mean, it wouldn't be hard to make a StardewXnbHack but for yaml

It's in json because CP is json

[rain basalt]

[lucid iron]

yea xnb itself is some xml adjacent thing

[next plaza]

XNB is actually a binary format

The format the content pipeline uses is XML, but it's just binary once built

(Weird calling "binary" a format, when it's more a description of a type of format than anything, and not a format in and of itself...)

[lucid iron]

maybe if we go back in time and make smapi use yaml instead of json

[rain basalt]

hmm binary is just machine code where hex would be a format

[next plaza]

Binary isn't machine code

Machine code sorta fits under the binary umbrella

[uncut viper]

hex is also just a number system

[next plaza]

But machine code is a very specific thing

[rain basalt]

from what i remember from school binary and machine code are the same thing

[lucid iron]

no its a rectangle and square deal

[rain basalt]

jsut like punch cards were machine code ^.~

[next plaza]

Well, that's incorrect. You can't run any binary

[rain basalt]

mabey language not code hmm using wrong word

[next plaza]

Like, I could write a bunch of integers consecutively in a binary format, but that wouldn't mean it's valid machine code

Machine code is serialized in a binary format, but not all binary is machine code

[lucid iron]

sometimes the terms get conflated though, cus ppl tend to put executables in a bin folder

[next plaza]

Heck, technically text is binary

[uncut viper]

"10" is binary but it's not an instruction

[lucid iron]

xnb is definitely not an exectuable at any rate

[next plaza]

It's like the whole "a square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares" thing

[rain basalt]

lets see if i rememeber 10 would be 01010000

[next plaza]

I mean, 10 is also valid binary, and I think that's what Button meant

It is equivalent to decimal 2

[uncut viper]

i meant the literal 1 and 0 yeah

[next plaza]

But binary is technically just a number system that we use in a variety of ways

[brittle pasture]

not entirely related to the convo but I found this which is... interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

[rain basalt]

yah ill have to pull out my old books and refreash my brain

[next plaza]

Like, text is all stored in binary too. A Space is decimal 32, which is just binary 00010000

(Assuming ASCII anyways)

[uncut viper]

which can also be converted to hex if you like letters

[next plaza]

Yep, I usually open https://www.asciitable.com/ when I need to deal with that stuff

And there's also octal, base 8

[uncut viper]

if you're really weird you can even use base 10

[brittle pasture]

base 10 is a rather shitty base come to think of it

[next plaza]

Eh, it's kinda natural to humans because of 10 fingers (some cultures have used base 5 I've heard)

[brittle pasture]

if I have a time machine I'd induce large scale mutations in the human genome and give everyone 12 fingers

now that's a much better base

[lucid iron]

why not 8 fingers

pinkies overrated

[next plaza]

Or even 2. Give us pincers

[rain basalt]

most people dont know but base 12 was created from counting on fingers since you can count to 12 on one hand using the 3 sections of each finger and 144 by using both hands

welp back to breaking and fixing my mods for 1.6.9

[drowsy pewter]

....hides time machine blueprints from selph

[next plaza]

@finite ginkgo 6480 has the time travel stuff you've been looking for, apparently

[brittle pasture]

you should be more concerned about casey the carcinizer

is that a word

[next plaza]

Hey, I didn't say I wanted that

Just that you could

[uncut viper]

i was gonna say carcinogen but I don't think that's quite right either

Casey the crablord

[finite ginkgo]

I prefer developing my own abilities, thanks

[calm nebula]

Isn't it all binary

Unless you're me with my quantum supercomputer

[next plaza]

Yeah, briefly mentioned that later about text being binary

[maiden sonnet]

hello, does anyone know how i can find the rest of the non-letter mail flags in the game. The one im looking for isnt in the list on the SDV wiki. Im looking for the flags for the house renovation additions.

[lucid iron]

need to look at decompile

[maiden sonnet]

i found it on the modding wiki just now lol

[half tangle]

@teal bridge I'm reading your StardewUI docs and this is such a great contribution to the community. I think I found an error assuming I'm understanding correctly. In the section https://focustense.github.io/StardewUI/framework/binding-context/#context-vs-data

As far as those inner <label> elements are concerned, the "model" or "data" is actually MenuViewModel.
I think that should be MenuItem instead.

[hallow prism]

wouldn't they be in the house renovation data file?

[teal bridge]

That does indeed look like an error, thanks for reporting it.

[rancid musk]

All the mail flags from housing renovations are in the Data/HomeRenovations asset. There are three hard-coded ones but those are duplicated in the data asset.

[teal bridge]

(as for this other ongoing discussion, don't even get me started on how Hollywood enstupidated two or possibly three whole generations with its mindless "binary" idiocy)

[sweet sphinx]

Oh?

[rain basalt]

😭 they said dont get them started

[teal bridge]

I don't think there's anything to raise an eyebrow over, one need only watch any movie or TV show released in the last 40 years that involves technology in some way. "Binary" may as well be a magical language of magic spells that do magic things.

[sweet sphinx]

Ohh

[rain basalt]

i do love the matrix lol

[maiden sonnet]

im still learning ive never looked into the raw data files before i forgot about that honestly lol thanks for the reminder.

[teal bridge]

Nothing wrong with the premise of the Matrix - I mean, as fiction, anyway. But screenwriters have historically (and probably still presently) not been able to grok that those 1s and 0s are just a representation of something, not the thing itself.

[sweet sphinx]

The 1s and 0s are basically just "on"s and "off"s

[midnight robin]

superposition has entered the chat

[sweet sphinx]

And Hollywood also doesn't understand quantum physics, they'll just slap "quantum" or sm stuff infront of normal words to make it "sciency"

Does anyone know what font Stardew Valley uses?

[teal bridge]

It uses the Stardew Valley font.

[sweet sphinx]

. . .thanks

[teal bridge]

Or rather fonts, plural.

[uncut viper]

thats the answer. its custom

[teal bridge]

I'm not trying to be funny. It has its own font.

[hallow prism]

(i mean, it's not a joke, it's a font made by CA for the game)

[teal bridge]

If you find recreations of that font online, they will generally be called "Stardew Valley".

[sweet sphinx]

Ohh

[plucky arrow]

hi! im new to stardew modding and was wanting to make a farmhouse reskin ( i think thats what you would call it ) and i wasnt sure how to get started. does anyone know what software i would use or how to get started? thanks in advance!

[rain basalt]

reskin gimp vccode use CP with json edits

[uncut viper]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[hallow prism]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[uncut viper]

you'll want to look at the top stuff for Content Patcher stuff

[rain basalt]

if you wana see how i did mine you can copy some of my code https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/22932

[hallow prism]

and i suggest finding a small mod doing what you want to do and look at how it's done

[plucky arrow]

thank you guys so much !

ill be back if i have any other questions

[hard fern]

🤔 can i make it so that an NPC is only dateable if the player is a specific gender? And if so how difficult is that gonna be

[rain basalt]

just a reminder you have 3 different building levels for farmhouses you can copy the same skin to all the sets if you want

[rain basalt]

dont you just set gender peramiters under charecters.json

[velvet narwhal]

set base data/character romanceable to false, then a new block with a when condition to check player gender to then set the canberomanced to true

[uncut viper]

you can conditionally patch the CanBeRomanced field but it might have weird effects in multiplayer? SpaceCore has a "SeparateDatability" thing that might help with that but i know little about it

[hard fern]

Ah alright 👍

And additional question about npcs

[plucky arrow]

thank you!

[plucky arrow]

alright!

[hard fern]

It's possible to yoink krobus's... Uhh whatever he does to make him a roommate instead of a spouse, right?

[plucky arrow]

before i make my mod, is anyone aware of a gingerbread farmhouse reskin?

[rain basalt]

nothing on quick search and shouldng matter as long as you do your own take on it

[plucky arrow]

okay thank you!

[rain basalt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/zr4a4c/i_made_a_gingerbread_house_based_on_the_stardew/?rdt=36702

lol only gignerbread house i found

[plucky arrow]

same

i wanted one really bad for my own world

and couldnt find anything

[lucid iron]

tasty

[plucky arrow]

so i figured id make a mod for it

[velvet narwhal]

i think only spacecore lets you do the roommate thing

[hard fern]

A

[lucid iron]

for art tips check out #making-mods-art

[hard fern]

Spacecore time i see

[uncut viper]

you might be able to do the roommates thing without it? unsure

[rain basalt]

go crazy do gingerbread house for winter egg house for spring pumpking house for fall not sure on summer

[uncut viper]

the code seems to check for the item you use to propose having the context tag "propose_roomate_NPCName"

[tender bloom]

You can definitely have roommates without spacecore

Juna iirc uses this

[hard fern]

Hm, really?

[plucky arrow]

gosh youre so right

summer i could do uhh

watermelon?

[velvet narwhal]

ah ok, i didn't see it anywhere except for the dialogue keys

[uncut viper]

spacecore i assume just calls the vanilla function with "asRoommate" set to true

[velvet narwhal]

yeah through event commands

[hard fern]

I'll have to take a look at juna later then

[tender bloom]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8606

[rain basalt]

sand castle lol

[plucky arrow]

OHH smart

i was thinking of reskining the towns people to some sort of sugary verison of them

i was going to do gingerbread people but i felt odd about it

[rain basalt]

lol gingerbread people

[plucky arrow]

so i thought maybe id just make them candy esk

[hard fern]

Esque?

[uncut viper]

cookie run valley

[plucky arrow]

yes

ive never used that word before

[rain basalt]

bakers field

[plucky arrow]

i knew i wanted to use it tho

i was thinking about candy land while planning this in my head

[uncut viper]

i wouldnt want my mod associated with bakersfield personally

[plucky arrow]

omg now i want to do things to the scenery too

[rain basalt]

well good luck we will always be here if you need help

[plucky arrow]

idk what bakersfield

thank you sm lovely

[uncut viper]

(its a city in California)

[rain basalt]

[plucky arrow]

ohh i live no where near there lol

if i draw out my ideas and put them in the #making-mods-art would people give constructive critisism?

[rain basalt]

if you ask for it

[plucky arrow]

okay lovely

[rain basalt]

if you dont ask 99% of the time they will just say how nice it is lol

[plucky arrow]

oh gosh

[tender bloom]

I mean I think it's funny but I agree Bakersfield doesn't have that positive of a reputation

[plucky arrow]

i need it to look nice so i will take all advice i can gett

[rain basalt]

yah just post edits ask for helps remember the 5 color blending rules

[plucky arrow]

LOL

im honestly not sure what those are...

ive never really drawn with colors, im very new to a lot of this

[rain basalt]

to blend from one shade to another you should use 5 colors to transition

[plucky arrow]

ohh

i feel like im about to make a minecraft skin

[tender bloom]

Depending on the sprite size that rule might not be true though

If you want to draw in stardew style

[rain basalt]

if you look at the roof of my junimo buildings you will see 5-6 colors to create shadows and textureing

[tender bloom]

The stardew art style doesn't have many rules that are 100% always followed

a 16x16 sprite doesn't have the space for 5 colors

[rain basalt]

true lol

[plucky arrow]

when i reskin the farmhouse does it have to be the same size? or can i edit that? or will it mess up other things in the game

[tender bloom]

Really it all depends, but using the vanilla sprites as reference helps

It is best to keep it the same size

[rain basalt]

stay withing the sheet size or you will have alot of programming to do

[tender bloom]

Specifically for the farmhouse because it's still kind of hardcoded

[hard fern]

It should stay the same size

[tender bloom]

Making something a different size is possible for buildings but as Celestia says it takes a bit more work, not programming necessarily but writing json files

[hard fern]

In terms of visually the same size (aka no change to the sprite itself) ... Uh

Probably keep that the same too

[plucky arrow]

koay okay

im going to do a quick sketch on what im thinking

[tender bloom]

especially when you're just starting out, it will make it easier for you if you stay the same size

[plucky arrow]

okay tysm

this is helping me a lot

[hard fern]

Things that are important are remembering where the door is and where your spouse sits(?)

[plucky arrow]

am i able to make it look taller/shorter or would that require more work

[tender bloom]

if you have the sprite space on top, you can make it look taller

you can do a little with shorter but as forsy says, keep in mind the stuff you can't change

1. where you get the club card
2. your spouse can stand on the porch
3. the door to exit the house
4. the walkable area below the door
5. the mailbox

There's also chimney smoke that comes off when the house has a fireplace on

But that might be subtle enough you don't care

[plucky arrow]

it could be silly if i make the chimney smoke marshmallow fluff

[tender bloom]

Unlikely you can change the smoke

Unless the sprite isn't reused

[plucky arrow]

dang it

[tender bloom]

I think it's more C# than the average thing is

[rain basalt]

mailbox is kinda hard coded but not part of the house itself

as for smoke you could make the sprite transparent ^..^

[plucky arrow]

i cant even remember what the smoke looks like

im not sure if ive even noticed it before

i th ink itll be fine by itself

it reminds me of that lady who fattened the kids up in her gingerbread house to eat them

[lucid iron]

what the heck i never knew this

prob cus i yeet fireplace really quickly

[scenic heath]

Can you change the display name of the shipping bin via better chests or is that a hardcoded limitation?

[rain basalt]

trying to remember does it reuse the steamanimation.png

or cursors.png upper right

[brittle pasture]

Jail

[rain basalt]

i never use it lol

[hard fern]

I love the fireplace

I'm gonna make my npc specifically reference the fireplace... :(

[lucid iron]

Better give ur npc a spouse room fireplace then

[hard fern]

(i had actually considered a case where the player didn't even have a fireplace in their house and decided against adding that line because of it lol)

I have like 2 other npcs i have ideas for, I'll stick a fireplace in one of theirs :3

[plucky arrow]

i posted my sketch but im not sure if it will work. is changing the shape of the roof okay? i lined i up with the actual stardew house and its the exact same size but with slightly different shapes

[rain basalt]

yah i mean i changed the whole woodpile to a tree lol

[plucky arrow]

thaat is true

not sure what to make it on mine

[rain basalt]

chocolate bars?

[plucky arrow]

just a stock pile of chocolate bars lol

about how long do you think it would take to change the texture of the town to christmas, change the farmhouse, change the trees, change the sprites of the characters, change the water, and like most things in the game..

like the fish pond, fences, machines, sprinklers, etc

[rain basalt]

start one building at a time lol

[uncut viper]

unless you're a very quick artist that sounds like it'd take a while

[plucky arrow]

oh gosh

i just have so many ideas and i want to do them but not having them done before christmas feels like theres no point

but youre right

one thing at a time

[jolly bane]

could anyone please help me understand how to get a custom npc im making to play an animation from their sprite sheet during their daily schedule? thank you!

[balmy dagger]

I want to make mods, especially aesthetic ones, for my game. Does anyone have a particular software they use to make the pixel art for buildings etc?

[hollow vector]

helloo! i was using the cp -> fs converter for hairstyles and noticed i ran into this error, it got about halfway through the hairstyles before doing this - any ideas on whats going on?

[calm nebula]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[sweet sphinx]

so, is the mod id in the url the full url or just the numbers at the end?

[faint ingot]

I guess with "stopMusic" command in events there's no option to fade the volume?

[sweet sphinx]

what is wrong with the name??
"[CP] GoldPlatedFood.7z"

[brave fable]

I assume by brackets it means ()

[hallow prism]

.

[sweet sphinx]

oh

groans

[hallow prism]

yeah

[brave fable]

periods are allowed

[brittle pasture]

the numbers at the end
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Update_checks

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[hallow prism]

oh yeah, hmm

i'm sure i got nexus to be annoying about that at some point

[sweet sphinx]

it was, indeed, the []

[hallow prism]

but it may have been in publishing an image or something

[sweet sphinx]

what's an article?

[hallow prism]

like https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/images/4145 here i'm pretty sure i wanted to put the version number and i couldn't

[brittle pasture]

something no user will read

[sweet sphinx]

ok

[hallow prism]

skip article for now

[sweet sphinx]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29045/

[old edge]

Hello

[brittle pasture]

"buff gold lewis isnt real he cant hurt you"
buff gold lewis:

[plucky arrow]

im making a reskin of the farmhouse but i feel like i dont have very many pixels to work with (im currently using 64x64) what would be a good amount to use ?

[brittle pasture]

64x64 is just 4 squares by 4 squares
And the farmhouse's bigger than that

[plucky arrow]

sorry im very new to this this is what i meant by 64x64

[brittle pasture]

make it as big as the farmhouse picture you have open?

[plucky arrow]

i put the farmhouse picture in afterward to make sure i didnt get sizing wrong

[brave fable]

hi, to add custom animations to schedules (e.g. penny washing dishes), you want to use a patch using EditData on Data/animationDescriptions, similar to the example here:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Sleep_animation

make sure your entry keys start with {{ModId}} since these animations are visible to all npcs from all mods, and make sure you use the exact same values in your schedule entries.

the value format is intro/loop/outro, where you can use any number of frames in each (e.g. 20 21 22/20/22 21 20 would play 3 frames intro, loop a single frame, and then play 3 frames outro when the next schedule time starts)

(idr why it specifies lowercase is that just a sleep thing)

[calm nebula]

Lowercase is a sleep thing

[brittle pasture]

Sorry I'm confused by what you mean here. Anyway as mentioned if you're getting started doing a farmhouse reskin you don't want to make it smaller or bigger than the vanilla dimensions
did you unpack the game files for the original farmhouse pictures? Then you can draw on top in another layer

[plucky arrow]

no, i took the one off of the wiki

[brittle pasture]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brittle pasture]

the wiki one may not be the correct size

[plucky arrow]

oh alright thank you!

ill try this

[brittle pasture]

after unpacking the farmhouse should be in Content (unpacked) > Buildings > houses.png

you can copy it elsewhere, open it and draw on top

[rain basalt]

this is what it looks like

[plucky arrow]

okay thank you!

[tepid escarp]

How would you make an NPC fish in their schedule animations like Willy does? I know it’s spacecore but does anyone know the exact command to do that please? Thank you

[rain basalt]

could you use willies string?

[tepid escarp]

I’ve tried to make my NPC over Willy but only the NPC holding the rod appears, not the bobber 😦

[hallow prism]

spacecore documentation is pretty complete, you tried searching for it?

[gaunt orbit]

Ain't that the truth

[brittle pasture]

if it's not in the description it doesn't exist. sometimes, not even that.

[tepid escarp]

Yeah I tried looking, I just might be being stupid as most of the things on there completely go over my head

[gaunt orbit]

We gotta start doing the light novel thing and putting all the info on the title

[lucid iron]

unsure how to communicate this behavior to user

but at least u can do it

[brave fable]

aaaah what's THIS tree in the forest map

the tiniest tree in the whole game

i steal him

[rain basalt]

outdoor tile sheet cut the trunk down

[sweet sphinx]

lol

[tight shoal]

Hello, does anyone know of a way to know where the textures of Stardew Valley objects are located. The thing is that the texture of the scythe is in weapons.xnb when it is supposed to be a tool, that is why I have not been able to find the textures I am looking for since it does not make much sense

[rain basalt]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brave fable]

everything is everywhere, organisation is an illusion

search and u will find

[tender bloom]

Scythes are weapons internally

[rain basalt]

once you unpack you can find the data/weapons.json and TileSheets/weapons.png

[brave fable]

fighting urge to draw azalea bushes for shrine. must resist pink flowers. must remember agony of drawing leafses

only alternative is.... drawing tree..

[rain basalt]

what colors you need lol

[brave fable]

i need pink..

[tight shoal]

I already know that, what I was asking is if there is some general way to know what texture each object is in.

[rain basalt]

look at the json and where its pointing

[brave fable]

most items are in spritesheets in the TileSheets folder, most standard objects are otherwise in Maps/springObjects

[rain basalt]

here leaves in all shapes and sizes you can borrow lol

[brave fable]

i appreciate the offer but i must suffer alone

[lucid iron]

pink tree

[rain basalt]

it is about the same size and shape as an azalia

[brave fable]

god i want to redraw my pink trees so hard because they're annoyingly shitty but i just cannot care enough

[lucid iron]

how is tree less leaf than azalea bush

[brave fable]

tree is petals

but petals are a huge 🥙

[lucid iron]

do u like bougainvilleas

[brave fable]

bougies give me life

[drowsy pewter]

Real answer: You can open the game, open the settings for Lookup Anything, turn on "datamining fields", then use Lookup Anything on any item in order to get the name of the Texture which the item uses (which corresponds to filename)

But for most stuff its straight forward. You can also just ask here

[drowsy pewter]

this would still require first knowing/figuring out that scythes are in weapons.json

[sweet sphinx]

no leaf pen/brush?

[rain basalt]

"47": {
"Name": "Scythe",
"DisplayName": "[LocalizedText Strings\Weapons:Scythe_Name]",
"Description": "[LocalizedText Strings\Weapons:Scythe_Description]",
"MinDamage": 1,
"MaxDamage": 3,
"Knockback": 1.0,
"Speed": 0,
"Precision": 0,
"Defense": 0,
"Type": 0,
"MineBaseLevel": -1,
"MineMinLevel": -1,
"AreaOfEffect": 0,
"CritChance": 0.02,
"CritMultiplier": 3.0,
"CanBeLostOnDeath": false,
"Texture": "TileSheets/weapons",
"SpriteIndex": 47,
"Projectiles": null,
"CustomFields": null

[brave fable]

what is leaf pen

[lucid iron]

is there one that works well at pixel sizes

[rain basalt]

hmm tilesheets/weapons

[lucid iron]

cant imagine how that would work

[drowsy pewter]

celestia thats not uh... what im trying to say &&

[rain basalt]

i was just saying check json files and they usualy point to there sheets

[drowsy pewter]

but this person thought that scythes were a Tool, therefore they wouldnt even know to read weapons.json

[acoustic summit]

What's the proper way to change player location via c#? Ive tried just changing currentlocation but game dosnt like that much haha

[rain basalt]

thats why i said above where to find

[next plaza]

Game1.warpFarmer I think is what it's called?

Going off memory

[brave fable]

or Game1.player.warpFarmer, unsure if there's a difference

[acoustic summit]

using a location request, alrighty 🙂 Thanks!

[uncut viper]

theres a handful of overrides

one of them just takes a location name

two of them actually

[sweet sphinx]

leafs

[brave fable]

well that is definitely Leafs but it does not a tree make

[sweet sphinx]

leafs

[lucid iron]

are you unstatisfied with the cherry tree

[drowsy pewter]

lmfao imaging pixel arting stardew trees with that brush

[lucid iron]

from vanilla

[sweet sphinx]

(I made these ages ago)

I forgot I made a pixel wall...

[rain basalt]

i just copied current trees meshed them together fixed odd leaves made patterns spent 5-6 hours recoloring and now use the custom pallet to make all my buildings lol

[sweet sphinx]

nice

[brave fable]

i'm never satisfied lol

[sweet sphinx]

I am reminded of this "pool" I made... thinking about using it for a mod or smth

[faint ingot]

I just spent like an hour wondering why all the changes to my event didn't seem to be working. I had pasted an older version of it further down in the wrong place : (

[versed wyvern]

Just wondering, does the game, whether base or from a framework like Spacecore, support something like unlocking outfits for NPCs only after gifting them a specific item?

[rain basalt]

should be able to with events

[next plaza]

Yeah, you'd just gift them the item

[uncut viper]

you dont need an event, you can make item-specific gift reaction dialogue that sets a mail flag

[next plaza]

FS outfits are a little tricker but I think it's still possible?

[versed wyvern]

Ooh, and the NPC outfit can check for the mail flag?

[next plaza]

Oh, for NPCs

I misread

But yeah, you can just use the NPC appearance system with a gift reaction adding a mail flag like Button said

Appearances use GSQ to determine if they can be a valid choice or not

(Game State Query)

[versed wyvern]

Thank you for the info, that sounds easy enough to figure out

[faint ingot]

I'm not sure what this means about blink being a 'timer'. All I want is for the farmer's eyes to close and stay closed, but /eyes 1 throws an error about missing the blink timer, and when I use the default value nothing seems to happen.

[next plaza]

Huh, PeacefulEnd responded to Pathos's question on the FS page

[hallow prism]

do i need vegetable or fruit for the second quest?? /j

[lucid iron]

i cant seem to find where game sets up the dropbox tile property

[versed wyvern]

Can't say I have firsthand experience with using the command but it sounds like the command simply must have a blink value, writing in -1000 changes nothing because it's the default, so something like -10000 should presumably make blinks ten times farther apart

It doesn't sound like this command is capable of making blinks never happen but at big enough negative numbers they're functionally not happening

[rain basalt]

like the starting box ?

[lucid iron]

no the donate box

[rain basalt]

for the musium?

[lucid iron]

no for special orders

[faint ingot]

I think maybe it's not working for me because my farmer is sitting down using a showframe command. Still pretty grumpy about this because I do need him to sit. Why won't you close your eyes you dumb farmer! Don't you want to kiss my NPC??

[versed wyvern]

Fear of intimacy pls understan

[faint ingot]

looks like a friggin goldfish

[brittle pasture]

GameLocation.performAction?

[lucid iron]

thats where it handles it yea

but when u accept quest it's gotta add it right

[brittle pasture]

no, the tiles are always part of the map

there's some code in that mess that only activates it if there's a matching special order

[lucid iron]

oh

silly

[brittle pasture]

with no special order active, hover your mouse over a drop box tile, you'll see a hand

but it does nothing

[brave fable]

yeah if you open Saloon.tmx for example you'll see the fridge always has a property

[lucid iron]

while i was under impression that this thing is dynamic, i thought i would patch the place which adds the action prop

but hm maybe i should just ignore dropbox id when they r same tile

[tiny zealot]

(C#) i'm adding a location which can be accessed from anywhere. if i use it in the mines, is there a good (or bad, i'm flexible) way to keep the current mine level loaded so that when i leave my location, the mine level remains as it was instead of resetting?

[lucid iron]

a secret room

[rain basalt]

only thing i found for actions

[uncut viper]

might be able to just skip MineShaft.clearInactiveMines conditionally

[rain basalt]

not sure. but when you do multiplayer if a person is on the level it stays so fake a second charecter ?

[uncut viper]

(or MineShaft.OnLeftMines)

[tiny zealot]

faking a second character sounds... harder, but maybe it isn't i'll check it out

thanks

[rain basalt]

we also found timestop sometimes causes the maps to freeze up and you can reenter the same mine states

[tiny zealot]

i can't bank on "sometimes" though, sorry /lh

[rain basalt]

so i think they update after you leave and game progresses in time

[brave fable]

these all sound wonderfully dubious

just that right amount of hacky and plausible

[lucid iron]

what if your secret room just goes to the next mine level one way

[uncut viper]

i think actually Game1.onFadeToBlackComplete would be your best bet since that happens in your new location so you can check where you are first

[lucid iron]

it seems like the least cursed approach

[uncut viper]

and thats what clears the mines if the previous location was a mine level

[rain basalt]

what about setting it on a certain level?

[tiny zealot]

no, that's not good, for secret reasons

[uncut viper]

you'd need to worry about MineShaft.UpdateMines10Minutes too though

[rain basalt]

they did it for 100

[lucid iron]

schemes i see

oh mine.lifespan

if (mine.lifespan == 0 && keepUntickedLevels)
{
    return false;
}

should keep it alive until player leaves mine for good

[cosmic gorge]

Is there anyone in here I can commission to make an NPC for me?

[uncut viper]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[uncut viper]

an entire NPC is a lot of work though assuming you mean code and all, so it likely would not be cheap

[acoustic summit]

Hm, is there a more universal field that functions similarly to mapImageSource in MineShafts?

Like a changeable field to alter what image is used for the map tiles

[tiny zealot]

good news everyone: a quick postfix on MineShaft.IsGeneratedLevel to return true for my location means the game thinks i never left the mines, so great success so far

[uncut viper]

tbh the fact that its specifically in MineShaft made me forget that thats a static function that can be applied to anywhere

[tiny zealot]

what incredible luck that that function is easy to patch and perfectly controls the thing i need!

[uncut viper]

are you patching both of them. how does the game determine which one to use why do they do different things

[rancid temple]

Made the transpiler error go away but now my code is just not doing what it's supposed to... I have too much down time between transpilers

[tiny zealot]

i'm patching the location one, which is what the game uses at the points i care about, i think. the name one might be old behavior since it's doing some substring stuff which i vaguely remember from 1.5

[uncut viper]

theyre both used in onFadeToBlackComplete

[tiny zealot]

well i gotta do some more stuff, cause if i sit in my secret room over the 10-minute boundary the level resets

[cosmic gorge]

Thank you!!

[uncut viper]

that would be MineShaft.UpdateMines10Minutes i imagine

which seems to call clearInactiveMines... which i think uses the string name version of IsGeneratedLevel lmao

[tiny zealot]

welp, patching both it is i suppose

[uncut viper]

i almost did the same stuff for Graveyards bc i wanted you to be able to dig under a headstone to go to a separate room but didnt feel like dealing with this stuff under a time limit

[lucid iron]

Well button you need a 1.1.0 version anyways

[rancid temple]

Did a miss a fix for the SpaceCore save serialization stuff from a couple days ago?

[lucid iron]

Still got 3 days

No it broke and is still broken

[uncut viper]

wait why do i need a 1.1.0

[rancid temple]

Mk, as long as I'm not just missing a fix that's fine lmao

[uncut viper]

also did spacecore serialization actually break again. i need that for museum framework

[lucid iron]

#making-mods-general message

[lucid iron]

Graveyard had lights stuff right

[uncut viper]

did casey ever actually say it was broken? i thought she just wasnt sure if it would break

graveyards does have light stuff but thatd be a bug fix thats a last decimal increment

[lucid iron]

It's currently failing to find entry to do transpiler on yea

[rancid temple]

Chu linked to the earliest part of that convo lol

It does indeed throw an error on patching the serializer, though I'm not sure exactly what effect that's having currently

[brave fable]

[11:40:59 ERROR SpaceCore] Failed to apply 'SpaceCore.Patches.SaveGamePatcher' patcher; some features may not work correctly. Technical details:
System.InvalidOperationException: Can't find method StardewValley.SaveGame.GetSerializer to patch.

🥳

[uncut viper]

chu expecting me to have infinite knowledge of every convo in this channel

[rancid temple]

Expecting you to read and scroll, ew

[uncut viper]

i do backread some days but not every day ok

[next plaza]

I plan on fixing it probably tomorrow

[rancid temple]

I am really bad about taking time to backread lol

[lucid iron]

I have boundless trust for your media literacy button

[uncut viper]

(i really only backread if there hasnt actually been much said on any given day)

i think media that tells you absolutely nothing but expects u to have all the answers is what we in the business call "bad"

/lh

[rancid temple]

Ah, inserting instructions and forgetting to move the label, my belovedhated

[tiny zealot]

lmao do not patch return true from the name one and then expect Game1.getLocationFromName to work

[uncut viper]

if you redefine success to not include getlocationfromname then its fine

[tiny zealot]

no i am trying not to rearchitect all this shit yet again

anyway i should probably be working on 1.6.9 updates instead of this. time is short

however, this is fun, and that probably is not, so bleh

[uncut viper]

you've still got 3 days thats pleeenty of time

more if you just tell users "1.6.9 broke some stuff in my mod that will take a bit longer to fix"

doesnt need to be true

[lucid iron]

Slacc

[uncut viper]

im bein real lazy about my 1.6.9 fixes too

[ivory plume]

Monthly mod stats time!

Stardew Valley 1.6.9

1.6.9 will go live Monday November 4th. I'll be updating the mod compatibility list to reflect 1.6.9 this weekend.

Stats

Milestones

• Content Patcher reached 5 million unique downloads this month!

Mod compatibility

74.4% of SMAPI (C#) mods are compatible or have a workaround, up from 73.3% last month.

Unique mods by type

We have 413 more mods this month.

That includes:

• +281 Content Patcher;
• +49 SMAPI;
• +36 Alternative Textures;
• +17 Fashion Sense;
• +6 XNB;
• +5 Farm Type Manager;
• +4 Shop Tile Framework;
• +3 Json Assets;
• +0 Better Artisan Good Icons;
• +0 Dynamic Game Assets;
• +0 Mail Framework Mod;
• +0 TMXL Map Toolkit;
• -1 Custom Music;
• -1 Producer Mod Framework;
• -2 Custom Furniture;
• and +16 for frameworks with <100 content packs.

Content Patcher packs

We have 9,619 Content Patcher packs.

The top six Format versions are:

• 2.0 (3,183 ↗ 3,288) for Stardew Valley 1.6;
• 1.19 (580 ↘ 576) for Stardew Valley 1.4;
• 1.3 (474 ↘ 472) in old unofficial guides;
• 1.28 (388 ↘ 385), latest version for a while last year;
• 1.29 (401 ↘ 398) for Stardew Valley 1.5;
• 1.23 (361) for mysterious reasons.

Open source

• We have 3,012 tracked C# mods, of which
• 1,863 mods (62%) have a source code repo, with
• 1,050 (56%) in a multi-mod repo and 813 (44%) in a single-mod repo.

The percentage of mods which are open-source is continuing to drop, due to many newer mods not releasing source code. That's something I want to work on after the dust settles on 1.6.9.

Web costs

And finally, web hosting costs for the SMAPI.io site, update-check server, and API held steady around US$128/month after last month's server rescaling. (The graph is always a bit behind due to billing cycles.)

See also

• [Stats for September 2024](#making-mods-general message).
• Raw mod dump (65GB download) and scripts to analyze it.
• Download all open-source mod repos

And that's it for this month!

[brave fable]

does this sprite read well at all or not

would you click on it given the chance

[lucid iron]

Is there a bird inside

[brave fable]

sometimes

[uncut viper]

+6 XNB mods...

[tiny zealot]

+6 xnb, huh

i mean i knew it was at least 2

[lucid iron]

I think someone made new xnb farm map

[calm nebula]

Did the monthly drop or something

[brave fable]

ja, stf, and xnb making a comeback after 1.6 🥳

[uncut viper]

also rE: birds nest, to be honest i think i would probably not try and click on it unless i was told or accidentally hovered over it and asaw the hand

[brave fable]

i'll probably have a bird in it that flies away when you come close

[calm nebula]

When I wasn't paying attention

[rancid temple]

Pathos waited for you to look away

[rancid temple]

Can you make a shiny TAS on it?

[uncut viper]

would having a little "?" bubble above it the first time be an option

[rancid temple]

People love shinies

[calm nebula]

Nearly 10k CP mods

[lucid iron]

What are some ways to get ppl to open source their mods

[calm nebula]

That sounds amazing

[brave fable]

i kinda just removed the shiny tas on it and replaced it with a "?" bubble, but that only appears when there's something in the nest for you

[calm nebula]

Chcolate

[rancid temple]

Beg

[uncut viper]

shiny thing would be good actually too if you make it keep sparkling or glinting like a bird that collected shiny things

[brave fable]

the bird do collect shiny thing

[uncut viper]

i think if not that at least a ? evne when theres nothing for just the first time you see it might be good

[lucid iron]

Wow shoulda close sourced all my stuff for free candy

[uncut viper]

with some generic dialogue like "There's nothing here... maybe if you check back lateR?"

[calm nebula]

I will fucking fly over there and yell. Loudly

[brave fable]

dw it pops up a donation menu i dont need a textbox

[brittle pasture]

welp 3 of the 'closed source' mods are mine that I forgor to add GitHub links to

[calm nebula]

Hi classical Mathperson

[tender bloom]

Give advice on how to prevent people from reuploading your mod to curseforge without perms

[uncut viper]

o that also works

[tender bloom]

Hi quantum math person

[brittle pasture]

just fixed it

[ivory plume]

Benefits of open-source:

• Long term health of the modding ecosystem.
• Chocolate.
• Atra doesn't yell at you.

[uncut viper]

im curious, does "closed source" in this case mean there is literally no source available, or does it mean things that arent open source licensed

[brave fable]

i change my mods to closed-source when i go to bed so nobody tries anything while i'm not looking

man the special orders "?" is way too big. emote one it is

[ivory plume]

'Open source' in this case means 'has a public source code repo', it doesn't check the license currently.

[tender bloom]

O then I could just remove my licenses

Won’t, but could

[lucid iron]

Hm how does it detect open source

[tender bloom]

Link to code

In mod description

[uncut viper]

i should probably update mine to appear as open sourced cuz the compat list says they arent

[rancid temple]

Kind of pointless now that it's almost release time, but how do I get SMAPI to know when I have a beta update of my mod?

[ivory plume]

Post a version under 'main' or 'optional' with a prerelease tag (e.g. 1.5.0-beta.10 or 1.5.0-hope-this-works).

[lucid iron]

Only 1 of my mods got source code detected

[tender bloom]

Under the “is source code visible” standard, I’m very very very strongly in favor of open source, so if there are things that we can do to help (besides just encouraging it here) that would be good to make known

[lucid iron]

Even tho I been linking it in desc

[tender bloom]

Manually adding is also an option

If it isn’t auto detected

[lucid iron]

Yeah I'll do that, just through wiki right

[tender bloom]

Should b

[uncut viper]

ive just been forgetting to check tbh

[brave fable]

the perfect size..

[ivory plume]

The scripts I use to maintain the compatibility list auto-detect source code links in the mod description, Nexus mirrors, and manifest update keys. That only happens when the mod is first added to the compatibility list though.

[tender bloom]

Is just “go through and look for source” what you planned?

[lucid iron]

Yeah I think it's probably cus

[brave fable]

(i'd rather have a sparkle tas but i dont want it to be easily missed)

[lucid iron]

I publish mod, write all the desc, and then forget to link source until later

[calm nebula]

You heard it here first. Only the openest of the sourciest get chocolate

[uncut viper]

i coulda sworn cmct and betas at least had source linked from the start but then again i have very bad memory

[ivory plume]

Feel free to edit the mod compatibility info if you spot anything that's incorrect!

[calm nebula]

The rest of y'all have to settle for toffee

[uncut viper]

i dont like chocolate and like toffee so

[calm nebula]

Damn

[lucid iron]

That wiki page is big enough to lag while editing for me unfortunately

Dunno if there's anything to do about it though

[tiny zealot]

good, all of mine are green (except that one) with source links. all is well

[brave fable]

good, all of mine are red (except one) 😌

[uncut viper]

my one red listed mod

[lucid iron]

cant believe the compat list detected my sid spaget

[calm nebula]

Sid?

[lucid iron]

sprites in detail draws really big sprites weird sometimes

i did a quick fix for aviroen's mothman

[brave fable]

i clicked this mod for the amusing name from the compat list and i really appreciate the desc
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5043

There is nothing to explain.

Enjoy

[brittle pasture]

berry silly questions: if I use https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Data#Save_data, can I use any serializable types (e.g. items)?

[calm nebula]

No

The game makes sure things won't blow up for xmlser

That isn't the case for json

Don't put game types in there

[rare orbit]

any idea how to convert the mod Christmas sweets to CP instead of JA? i looked at the required mods and alot of them aren't working. do i have to change the requirements?

[brittle pasture]

danke

[lucid iron]

will need to rewrite most of it

[rare orbit]

JA still works but idk what mods i can use as requirments

[brittle pasture]

the "obsolete" dependencies seem to be PPJA itself for its items, so you'll have to rewrite most of it to either use your own unique items, or depend on something like Cornucopia

[rare orbit]

So if i change the requirements to cornucopia it should run??

[calm nebula]

(Well, you can put data classes in there, like the stuff in the GameData assembly)

[uncut viper]

(also itd need to be for personal use only)

[brittle pasture]

I mean, after you rewrite all of it yourself, sure?

[half tangle]

@teal bridge A few additional issues in your docs:

1. most of the code examples on this page lack indentation https://focustense.github.io/StardewUI/framework/binding-events/
2. the ScrollWithChildren and the Customization sections here are not auto-expanded like those are on other pages (though maybe this is intentional) https://focustense.github.io/StardewUI/framework/binding-events/
3. on that same page (binding events), the bullet point that begins "If a row is irregular" seems confusingly worded in its example - I get what it's communicating (you can force scrolling to keep children items on screen) but it may be worth another pass

[brittle pasture]

it's basically a new mod at that point

(also what Button said)

[lucid iron]

need to draw your own assets

[rare orbit]

i'll ask the original mod creator if i can remake it

unfortunatly i cannot redraw them. i can draw normally but not pixels ;-;

[lucid iron]

there's a thread for stardewui it'll be easier to track in there #1293051032904925255

[brittle pasture]

the problem is that there is no "creator" of PPJA, but a bunch of creators who added their art and assets, all of whom may have differing permissions

[rare orbit]

ok so according to their page on nexus mods they have retired and said if anyone wants to update their mods go ahead!

the assets can be used without permissions according to the mod page and the profile at least

[uncut viper]

their About Me page doesnt say anything about updating their mods?

and their permissions absolutely do not say you can use their assets without permission

[brittle pasture]

this list has a list of all assets used in PPJA and their permissions: https://github.com/paradigmnomad/PPJA/blob/master/CREDIT.md

and I don't see any Chrismas Sweets assets on there. Might be part of a paid pack, might be unknown. 6480 definitely knows better than I

[rare orbit]

must've mis read the permissions.

[lucid iron]

does cornucopia have eggnog

[rare orbit]

i can double check

[lucid iron]

you might need to just make your own christmas mod, but it'll be fun trust

[calm nebula]

(You can also check for free to use game assets on itch.io)

[rare orbit]

oh boy ;-; it'll be a fun first project!

though it may take a while ;-;

[sweet sphinx]

Oh? Didn't know that place hosted free assets

[rare orbit]

any resources on learning how to code for this type of mod? i'm thinking recipes to start and honestly idk which is easier to go with since one problem i run into is the narrowing down tutorials ;-;

[brittle pasture]

!startmodding are you familiar with Content Patcher?

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Recipes_with_CP is a specific guide for recipes

though that doesn't cover adding new items

[rare orbit]

though i think making a recipes mod wouldn't be too hard for a beginner right?

crap

i misstyped!

[sweet sphinx]

My first mod has recipes

And new items

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29045/

[rare orbit]

i think cornucopia doesn't? but i am not sure

oh cool!

[sweet sphinx]

If you wanna look at mine for the basics

[rare orbit]

that's you? i just downloaded today!

[brittle pasture]

yeah reading an existing mod is also a very helpful route

[rare orbit]

yay!

[sweet sphinx]

:D

[rare orbit]

please do!

[lucid iron]

yea an item and recipes mod aint that bad, follow the links up here for content patcher

[rare orbit]

i need help and coding lowkey feels like studying black magic ;-;

[lucid iron]

its not coding

[rare orbit]

ohhh

i was trying to learn C#

but oh boy

i barely understand it ;-;

[rancid temple]

Think of working with jsons like data entry (it is)

[rare orbit]

ahhh

[lucid iron]

C# is needed for new behaviors

[sweet sphinx]

Yee, mine are all json

[lucid iron]

but most mods dont need that

[brittle pasture]

you're basically handing the game a note saying "I want these items added into the game"

[calm nebula]

Just slip the note into the game's pocket

[lucid iron]

C# is you sneaking into the kitchen then

[calm nebula]

Or fold it into a paper airplane and throw it across the classroom

[rare orbit]

ohhhh

i did not know that! i kinda assumed C# was needed!

[sweet sphinx]

I might need C# to make another animal seller tho, for a different mod

[lucid iron]

you need to clone me so one of us can sleep while the other one procrastinates

[rare orbit]

lol

[sweet sphinx]

Lol

[lucid iron]

but i think i'll have something in a month

[rare orbit]

yes i have a mod downloading problem no i won't stop lol

[sweet sphinx]

You're the first downloader of it then, and that makes me so happy!

[rare orbit]

no problem :3

add mod to my 1K mod pile lol

[sweet sphinx]

Lol

[rare orbit]

my bf looked at me like "babe you have alot of mods" he's a modded skyrim player

how cooked am i?

[clever sinew]

We are in the same boat

Also, extremely cooked

[rare orbit]

so sinking together got it!

lol

[clever sinew]

Genuinely, the way I have been learning is by studying both Rokugin’s guide as well as other mods

[rare orbit]

wonder if i should just use notepad or visual studio code?

[clever sinew]

I have been gently encouraged to use notepad++

With the json viewer plugin

[brittle pasture]

anything but (regular) notepad pls

[rare orbit]

im setting up the manifest and content json files now and lowkey i have no idea what im doing! i am just following the tutorial

[clever sinew]

Genuinely it has been really helpful

[rare orbit]

oh

ok got it

[clever sinew]

It just lets you see things in trees so it doesn’t all blur together

[lucid iron]

!vscjson

[clever sinew]

Honestly mood

[rare orbit]

sooo i might've used regular note pad to start the files ;W;

[old edge]

I use mousepad

[clever sinew]

Copy n paste!

[lucid iron]

!vscjsonc

[ocean sail]

How to make VSCode not scream at json comments

In Visual Studio Code, go to File -> Preferences -> Settings, then search for "associations", and in the "Associations" setting, click the Add Item button to add an item with key *.json and value jsonc (see image).
If you are making a content pack for Content Patcher, you should consider using its json schema so that VSCode can tell you if your patches are valid, you simply have to add

"$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json"

at the start of your content.json file.

To use this command, type !vscjsonc.

[clever sinew]

Also you don’t have to change the files or anything, just open them in the new program

[rare orbit]

listen as long as my computer doesn;t implode we should be good!

[clever sinew]

Mine has not

So that’s my endorsement

[rare orbit]

ok! still trying to figure out where to input the schema

[clever sinew]

like adding the new recipe/object?

[rare orbit]

not at the moment! i mean like in the tutorial above!

[clever sinew]

OH okay mb

[rare orbit]

it's cool!

where do i add that part?? on the manfiest or content?? if so where??

[clever sinew]

See I do not use VSC so we are already out of my very shallow depth

[rare orbit]

hmmmm should i use notepad ++ then??

[rancid temple]

I suggest VSC because it has syntax validation built in, but it's up to you for what you prefer

[rare orbit]

i don't really know how visual studio works

[rancid temple]

N++ has a plugin for validation but it's not very good

[rare orbit]

ohhhhhh

[tender bloom]

Vsc is not the same as vs

Vs = visual studio = heavy duty

[uncut viper]

you don't really need to worry about the schema either if you don't want to

[tender bloom]

Vsc = visual studio code = more lightweight but still has strong validation

[rare orbit]

oh i meant visual studio code!

[rancid temple]

Schema goes at the top of your json, up with Format

[rare orbit]

oh ok

[rancid temple]

{
  "$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json",
  "Format": "2.3.0",
  "Changes": [

  ]
}

[rare orbit]

so for both the content and manifest right?

[rancid temple]

Discord apparently won't show syntax highlighting for jsonc lmao

I usually don't use the schema for manifest, or if I do it's only for the autocomplete stuff for filling out the required names

And then it gets disabled because it complains about Version constantly

[lucid iron]

manifest is a different schema

the regex for version is wrong or something

[rancid temple]

I thought when I put it into a regex checker it came back correct, so I dunno what it's problem is

There's a lot about regex that I don't understand even slightly, and I'm not sure where to learn about it reliably because I feel like I get different info wherever I look

[lucid iron]

it's wrong for js i think

[old edge]

Is bus locations 1.6 unofficial broken now with new 1.6.8?

[rancid temple]

Thought it was working in 1.6.8, dunno about .9

[lucid iron]

note the ECMAScript

[old edge]

I prefer a simple text editor for .json and I like customizing it too look different with themes

[lucid iron]

it's correct for .NET

[calm nebula]

?

[rancid temple]

Ah, I guess that's why it doesn't cry in my C# projects

[lucid iron]

nah atra this is the one from the schema

https://smapi.io/schemas/manifest.json

SemanticVersion

[rare orbit]

so basically if i want to add new recipes by using vanilla items how should i start?

[lucid iron]

im not sure what atomic group means

[clever sinew]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CpDrw23peQiq-C7F2FjYOMePaYe0Rc9BwQsj3h6sjyo/edit?gid=1082266757#gid=1082266757

This has the item IDs of everything in the game. You'll need these to tell Content Patcher what items you want as ingredients

[rare orbit]

and for any mods that add extra items i add it as a requirement?

[old edge]

At this moment not sure if bus locations 1.6 still working

[clever sinew]

(Spreadsheet is not updated to 1.6)

[old edge]

I might as well code my own method for my bus stop

[clever sinew]

Yes, you would add as a required dependency

That goes in the manifest, I think

(trying to find a good example/confirm that I am not lying to you)

Okay yes so for example, from Wildflour's Forager

"Dependencies": [
{"UniqueID": "Atelier.Cauldron", "IsRequired": true},
{"UniqueID": "Esca.FarmTypeManager", "IsRequired": true},
{"UniqueID": "NCarigon.BushBloomMod", "IsRequired": true},
{"UniqueID": "sophie.Calcifer", "IsRequired": false}
],

You can also see that Calcifer is an optional dependency

So you can add those as well

[rancid temple]

Why use something outdated?

!itemids

[ocean sail]

Item ID’s [1.6 SPOILERS!]

https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/

To use this command, type !itemids.

[clever sinew]

because I had no idea we had something better!

hooray!

Thank you

[lucid iron]

you can also use lookup to get the qualified id in game

[rancid temple]

There might be other stuff in that doc that's okay to use, but the item id's are definitely outdated

[lucid iron]

it's kind of annoying though, gotta scroll

[rancid temple]

!unpack is also a good place to get everything lol

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[rancid temple]

Though familiarity with it will take a long time

[clever sinew]

yes but there is so much in the unpacked files

yeah

[rare orbit]

true

so far for the mod.... some items can be vanilla but others might be best with other mods as requirements

[clever sinew]

Makes sense

[rare orbit]

since most the ideas i have are mainly baked goods eggs and milk are in most holiday baking recipes anyhow

so that's perfect!

[rancid temple]

Also remember that the game simplifies a lot of stuff, so it won't be out of place if you do the same

[rare orbit]

whenever i get better i'll make an option to use any milk from any mod so that if someone wants to use vegan milks they can

true

[lucid iron]

in vscode u can do ctrl+p

to go to file by name

[clever sinew]

you can designate any milk

is it -6?

no that's the category

[rancid temple]

Milk and eggs are special for recipes in that you can actually make it accept any, it would be up to the other mod authors to make sure their objects are correctly categorized

[rare orbit]

ohhh coolio!

thank you for that!

i wanted to make sure people can use other items for this mod :3

[lucid iron]

if you need more complicated groups use spacecore recipe overrides

[rare orbit]

imma start simple for now but thank you :3

[dim dock]

sorry if this is a stupid question, i rarely see people make shoe mods. is it because its difficult to code or just because nobody feels the need to?

[clever sinew]

Also "any egg" is -5

[rare orbit]

got it

[clever sinew]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items

(Not to overwhelm you!)

[rare orbit]

been wondering that too ;-;

[faint ingot]

In my NPC's event, can I force their character model to be 'painted' at a higher z-index than the farmer's, so to speak? I tried putting them on the tile below with a large y-offset but eventually that y-offset will cause them to clip behind the farmer.

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Boots
Might just be that there's not a lot of ideas for shoes/boots

[brittle pasture]

shoes in vanilla just recolor the farmer's feet so there's little point to from an aesthetics standpoint

[rancid temple]

Unless you're trying to make some OP boots

My +500 defense flip flops

[clever sinew]

stompin boots

[brittle pasture]

Fashion Sense does support shoes though so I assume there's more on that front

[clever sinew]

clompin boots

[calm nebula]

hey, don't trash talk my +2 speed boots

[rancid temple]

Your speed boots require C# :P

[tiny zealot]

NPCs have a field called drawOnTop which does this (and draws the NPC in front of other inconvenient things), but there's no way to set it during an event without a small amount of C# to register a command for it

[brittle pasture]

(and clothes modders nowadays prefer Fashion Sense anyway, sorry Lacey)

[faint ingot]

OK thank you I'll tinker with the sprite some more then

[lucid iron]

emits light

[rancid temple]

Also light lmao

[calm nebula]

I mean, can't spacecore do it these days?

[rancid temple]

I think maybe?

[lucid iron]

yea its got a wearable buffs thing

[dim dock]

LOL i was just thinking bc i wanna make some simple shoes for myself that kinda has leaf ribbons (think ballet shoes and how they lace up but with leaves instead) so i was just wondering if it'd be impossible because it's technically going higher than the usual boots

[teal bridge]

That's some impressive spritework.

[brittle pasture]

yeah as mentioned any shoes that doesn't just recolor feet needs FS

[lucid iron]

even with fs though, the pixel art part might be hard

u do not have many pixels

should give it a shot regardless

[brittle pasture]

clown shoes, problem solved

[rare orbit]

ok but that sounds super cute

[dim dock]

yeah i might just try my luck doing them

[rancid temple]

spacechase0.SpaceCore/WearableData ah there we go, I was trying to find some kind of OnEquip lol

[rare orbit]

do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[teal bridge]

You've got what, 4 pixels to work with on either side? lol, good luck with that.

[rare orbit]

i need to be cute!!

[dim dock]

i have a custom fit for my farmer being made thats like a pink fairycore dress and i desperately want shoes to match LOL

[rare orbit]

I ain't gonna be in them mines if i ain't fashionable!

[brittle pasture]

FS also allows higher res spritework IIRC

these punk boots from the FS example pack definitely looks bigger than the farmer's base

[teal bridge]

Are they? Still pretty tiny.

[calm nebula]

fwiw, if you can't get your boots to boot, you can also just make pants

[brittle pasture]

actually now I'm not sure lol

[teal bridge]

(Don't listen to him, he's just trolling you)

[brittle pasture]

I did see some unnaturally (and might I dare say ungodly) detailed anime eyes FS packs

the human mind wasn't meant to comprehend that many pixels

[sweet sphinx]

[teal bridge]

Even in the best case scenario, you wouldn't have more than about 8px square for an eye?

At 4x scale the entire farmer sprite is 64x64.

[lucid iron]

does fs let you put <1 scales or something

[teal bridge]

I mean, 64x64 is the actual factual pixel size on screen, you can't go any higher res than that even if you break the 4x scale.

[brittle pasture]

quake in fear, mortals

[sweet sphinx]

a couple days ago I was wondering about a light-emitting clothing, tbh I was thinking about Terraria's mining helmet

[brittle pasture]

obligatory source link: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25752

[rare orbit]

ok dumb question.... but for the flours like from HXW freshly baked and Gourmand...... what catagory is flour in?

[brittle pasture]

probably artisan goods? but your best bet is opening the mod files yourself

[lucid iron]

tbh it's even more cursed at 4x scale https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/19062

[calm nebula]

(for that you have to use spacecore recipe overrides

and hope the other mods added content tags)

context tags

that one

[rare orbit]

so it's an artisan good and i am trying to think how to add all the flours as an option because i have a solid feeling if i add -26? the sugar cookie recipe will allow for mayo and that ain't happening.

[brittle pasture]

yeah you def need SpaceCore

the base game only allows whole categories, and only for fish, milk, egg

other categories technically are also supported, but they'll show up as "???"

I recommend for now making your recipes require wheat flour and get back to that later

[rancid temple]

You can always SpaceCore it later

[tiny zealot]

hey is anybody else's spouse room an eldritch horror in 1.6.9
[23:27:28 WARN game] Map '' loaded tile sheet with ID 'zzzzz_spouse_room_z_hatmouselaceyInterior' from asset name 'Maps/hatmouselaceyInterior' whose width (80px) and height (80px) can't be evenly divided by the tile size (64px).

(the tilesheet in question is actually 80x64)

[sweet sphinx]

"hatmouse"
what are you doing to that mouse?

[tiny zealot]

(borat voice) my wife https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/18177

[sweet sphinx]

ah, fair

[uncut viper]

unfortunately i dont have any custom spouse rooms to check but i do have lacey so i can see if it happens for me too when i go to the beta later

[sweet sphinx]

thank god it's an anthro mouse

[calm nebula]

@ivory plume ^^

[tiny zealot]

tile size 64px seems like a bug somewhere

[sweet sphinx]

also, is she wearing a green version of Ash Kechum's hat?

[tiny zealot]

maybe it's on me though, who knows

[tiny zealot]

not really, but it does kind of look like it

[sweet sphinx]

is it meant to be an L?

like, for Lacey?

[calm nebula]

ichor, can I see your map?

[tiny zealot]

yeah, more or less

[calm nebula]

ichor, what's

on your tilesheet

[tiny zealot]

16/16

[calm nebula]

huh, okay

do you know what TileSheet.TileSize is?

[tiny zealot]

(the same tilesheet works fine in her house. it's just the spouse room that barfs on it)

[calm nebula]

weird, okay

[ivory plume]

It's technically past the cutoff for 1.6.9, but I can still sneak in an extra fix if you can get me a repro content pack + save pretty soon.

[rancid temple]

I wonder if Lacey is why I'm seeing that error, I'm only married to Abigail but I've been seeing it pop up occasionally

Been looking at other crap so haven't had time to figure out why

[tiny zealot]

._. is it something i did?

[rancid temple]

Hm, lemme see if I have any other custom NPC's, I don't believe I do

[tiny zealot]

i remember avi was complaining about a beam in the spouse rooms. did anything else noteworthy change about them?

[sweet sphinx]

beam?

[calm nebula]

I don't see anything in particular, weirdly

[sweet sphinx]

this bit?

[rancid temple]

Again I don't understand why these forwards don't keep the original persons name

Discord over here promoting content theft

[sweet sphinx]

why is it complaining about a beam?

[rancid temple]

Might not be, that's what we're trying to figure out

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[tiny zealot]

the beam is just the only thing i remember hearing about that changed about spouse rooms in 1.6.9

[rancid temple]

Also on the list of things I haven't had time to figure out, why is Farmhouse Fixes throwing red at me for my main save but not new saves

[hard fern]

Oh no not the beam

[sweet sphinx]

T H E B E A M

[rancid temple]

Turns out I was misremembering the issue, and it isn't exactly the same as the one you posted

[lucid iron]

i think it was this thing right

[rancid temple]

[game] Map '' loaded tile sheet with ID 'zzzzz_spouse_room_p', but a tile sheet with that ID is already registered. The previous tile sheet will be replaced, which may cause errors.

[lucid iron]

why it got 5 z

[rancid temple]

Love this for me though, makes it real easy to troubleshoot

[lucid iron]

is that just what lacey has

[rancid temple]

That's a base game thing

I have absolutely no idea why

[calm nebula]

(it's because xtile, for some gd reason, sorts tilesheets by name.)

and also because the game at least used to refer to tilesheets by index

[ivory plume]

(This one is fixed in tonight's 1.6.9 release candidate.)

[sweet sphinx]

ngl, thinking of adding on to GPF, and making Copper, Iron, and Iridium Plated Foods

[tiny zealot]

@ivory plume if you don't mind receiving the repro pack on here... here.
the save (9) is married to the NPC with the broken room. assets/maps/spouse-room.tmx is the map file in question, if that's helpful

[sweet sphinx]

it wouldn't be too hard, just copy the files, and replace-all on "gold", maybe change some numbers to better fit progression, etc

[ivory plume]

(That's a really low stool.)

[tiny zealot]

ha here i was on my way to post a screenshot

[lofty ruin]

How do you make an NPC's house and it's interior?

[tiny zealot]

you use a program called Tiled https://www.mapeditor.org/.
it is free, but you can choose to pay for it

[ivory plume]

Fixed in tonight's 1.6.9 release candidate. Thanks for reporting it!

[tiny zealot]

hooray! thanks pathos!

[calm nebula]

Just for my curiosity....where did the 64 come from????

[tiny zealot]

here's the full "before" shot, for posterity

[ivory plume]

xTile is weird. The actual tile size in the map file (16) gets multiplied by the pixel zoom in the loaded map data (becoming 64), but then when you add a tilesheet you need to divide it by the pixel zoom again so it can then remultiply it by the pixel zoom.

[calm nebula]

Huh. Weird!

[brave fable]

does the stump look clickable enough now

[velvet narwhal]

oh my beam yeah

[lucid iron]

I can't steal from the birb

[brave fable]

crow only does fair trades. no scam

[lucid iron]

This particular birb is kind of dark looking

[velvet narwhal]

was there an exclaimation mark in game?

cause i wouldn't think to click it unless i saw the mouse hover

[tiny zealot]

i missed this earlier, but lacey can react to fashion sense hats just like CP ones. FS hats are even listed in the hat registry now

[brave fable]

that's a lot of things in the game tho

[lucid iron]

What if u could talk to the birb

[brave fable]

it would caw at you mostly

[lucid iron]

I think it flying away implies that it's a normal critter

Rather than special interactable

[brave fable]

hmmm i was hoping having an animating bird on a unique big sprite would've been enough

[velvet narwhal]

do not overestimate the power of stupid, and i am one of the many

[haughty charm]

Hey now.

Be nice to you.

[tiny zealot]

so is this sparkly twinkly from dark souls, or...?

[lucid iron]

That's not cus of ur sprite or anything, just inertia from how birb in the game normally function

[brave fable]

like it's not a plot important bird or anything but it'd be a waste of time if nobody clicked it lol

[lucid iron]

Yeah I think would be for the best

[velvet narwhal]

also iirc everything in your area is unique, so i'd just be like, "oh okay, goodbye bird"

[uncut viper]

pump-a-rum, pump-a-rum

[brave fable]

well it looks like this when the bird leaves you something

[uncut viper]

the reason not even just a unique big sprite would draw my attention is just bc a lot of my mods are just Big Unique Sprites that are just decorative
but also like. if i downloaded a mod that added a crow trading shop. i would probably read the description to know its a crow trading shop

[brave fable]

you know what. good point lol

[lucid iron]

Do you think the chicken and the crow gossip about us when we aren't looking