archived-update-spoilers

[gray oriole]

yep

[lavish rapids]

and moss

trust me you want a lot of moss

[rose oxide]

https://v3.stardew.info/planner/13-bright-ducks-kissed-cordially look at the farmland, it's impossible to get a decent patch of crops

[molten turret]

thirteen bright ducks kissed cordially ??

[lavish rapids]

I have like 900 cranberries planted rn

[rose oxide]

idk lol

[tiny torrent]

The point is to ranch

[mellow atlas]

NOOOO ONE OF MY trapper.... that tree is dead dead bruh

[gray oriole]

probably by design

[toxic void]

guys i got a meowmere sword, should i combine it with my infinity sword or just keep it as it is? i use the infinity hammer for combat so i wouldnt use it either way, it’d just be a cool item to keep

infinity gavel*

[gray oriole]

the new cool thing in 1.6 is dragontooth cutlass

[undone imp]

you can't get another meowmere, but i combined it with the infinity sword because then i actually get to use it

[gray oriole]

wait u can't?

[undone imp]

HOWever,,,,,,,,,, do not combine it with the galaxy sword (like i did initially)

[molten turret]

it's from 1.5

[gray oriole]

what happens when you try to bring duplicate gems to the shrine

[gray oriole]

it wasn't cool in 1.5

[undone imp]

because if u upgrade it to infinity sword then it loses the appearance override, and bam your meowmere is gone forever lol

[toxic void]

i have an extra stone and i thought abt trying to get two but also i wanted to keep it bc i have a chest of shiny things like a little crow

[undone imp]

yeah the existing far away stone will just sit there in the wizard's basement, you can't put another one in

[gray oriole]

ah

[mellow atlas]

MAN SO MANY TREES and fiber

i dont think i ahve enough time to grab all

[gray oriole]

u don't

[minor lantern]

I just got the green rain weather update. It would be cool if there was some cool fish you could catch during green rain! Did anyone else notice any perks to green rain other than the extra fibres, trees, and moss?

[mellow atlas]

YES YES I DO YES I DO let me drink coffee until I die

[mellow atlas]

u will need logs anyways this is a huge boost after all

[mellow atlas]

but seriously so many moss I wonder what it is going to be use with

i dont see much that req moss

[minor lantern]

Yeah that’s what I’m wondering too

[gray oriole]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Moss

[tiny torrent]

Yeah it’s needed

[gray oriole]

statue of blessings is the first major one

after that, challenge bait, mushroom logs, and treasure totems

you also need a bit for deluxe worm bins but those are 1 time and u only need a few

[lusty pecan]

also blue grass starter and speed-gro (only normal speed-gro though)

[gray oriole]

i'm not sure anyone has ever crafted normal speedgro except once for perfection

[toxic void]

and blue grass

[mellow atlas]

do we get moss seed from chopping the tree down or

[minor lantern]

Any benefits to the blue grass other than animals liking it?

[gray oriole]

double friendship gain

[toxic void]

yes

[minor lantern]

I read on that wiki the moss gives you 1 foraging XP

[gray oriole]

also feeds an animal twice as much as regular grass

[tiny torrent]

I think half consumption…? Iirc

[mellow atlas]

I focus tree or fiber?

[lusty pecan]

i think that's only green rain trees

[gray oriole]

but it also grows half as fast as regular grass so that kinda cancels out

[toxic void]

oh yeah thats what i meant

[lusty pecan]

it does last longer too i think

[minor lantern]

I had moss on my trees before the green rain

[gray oriole]

he's asking about moss seeds not moss

[mellow atlas]

should I focus on tree chop more than hitting the fibers

[gray oriole]

moss grows on trees past a certain age

[toxic void]

just plant it in winter and it’ll grow a bunch on spring 1

[lusty pecan]

yeah moss grows on trees naturally, green rain just makes a ton of moss

[gray oriole]

moss seed only drop from the green rain trees

[gray oriole]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you'll have to figure out your needs yourself

[mellow atlas]

chance?

[toxic void]

fibers imo

[gray oriole]

5%

per tree

and big 2x2 weed

[mellow atlas]

fk pass out next to my bed

well after my savage grind

i got 5 seed

[gray oriole]

u can get more from growing them

[mellow atlas]

i got like 195 moss

[mellow atlas]

just put it anywhere right?

[undone imp]

@lavish rapids are you still editing the forge page? i'd update it some more

[gray oriole]

I need a 2nd eye but

the Attack innate enchant seems to be affecting a unique stat...?

or the way the Attack stat works has changed

[woven tusk]

What. Who is writing this drivel

[gray oriole]

or it's actually two stats masquerading as one stat

what's wrong with it?

[steep hazel]

Where all can the butterfly from the statue spawn? I checked every location on the wiki top to bottom and haven't found it lol

[woven tusk]

Crit power isn't displayed as a percentage nor does it work as the percentage shown

+75 critpower is 2.5× (+150%) crit damage, remember

[undone imp]

it's only in the 7 areas listed on the wiki. the butterfly can move around and most maps are pretty big, it's pretty easy to miss

oh also

it's not the wiki for some reason but the butterfly can't spawn past 5pm

[gray oriole]

yes but internally that's how it works

[woven tusk]

Get rid of the percentage signs

[lavish rapids]

sorry uhhh what happened

[woven tusk]

They make the page less accurate twice

[steep hazel]

can't spawn as in despawns? or it can't spawn beyond 5pm, but stays around

[undone imp]

can't spawn beyond 5pm

[lavish rapids]

oh no I'm getting yelled at

[undone imp]

but when 5pm hits and it's not on the map where you currently are, it won't show up later

[steep hazel]

ah

got it

[lavish rapids]

I'm confused why isn't that accurate

[gray oriole]

oh I see

yeah get rid of the %

[gray oriole]

its similar to +Attack

+1 attack isn't +1% more dmg

[undone imp]

if frosty doesn't have any other edits lined up rn, i'd start rewriting it myself

[gray oriole]

+1 of the critpower stat isn't actually increasing anything by 1%

[woven tusk]

Because 1 point of crit power is worth 2% crit damage.

And also critpower from dragonteeth is multiplicative rather than additive to your existing crit multiplier for some reason

[lavish rapids]

yeah sure why not

[gray oriole]

the game itself also goes out of its way to not display a %

[woven tusk]

Oh, the planchette is sane now?

[lavish rapids]

I only initially did % cause that's what the inital page said

+X%

[gray oriole]

weapon page is all wrong

all the spouse weapons got standardized

i actually kinda miss it

I was looking forward to testing if it was possible to bypass enemy protections by just hitting them a lot of times with an autoclicker and +attack bonuses

unfortunately, I don't have a +155 attack speed weapon to test with

[lavish rapids]

Isn't there one weapon that still has broken attack speed>

or was that just a wiki error

[gray oriole]

not anymore no

[lavish rapids]

ah

[gray oriole]

abby's planchette was the 1 weapon with broken aspd

[woven tusk]

So when the previous editors fixed the other spouse weapons, they either missed Abigail's or could not get ahold of it to verify-- and thus her weapon's info was not updated

[gray oriole]

its not just abigail's

[chilly bloom]

Did someone look into that and guarantee? I proposed that might be the issue a bit ago but never verified myself due to my ineptitude when it comes to code

[lavish rapids]

all the other ones seem to be fixed

[woven tusk]

I thought all the other ones had already been updated?

[lavish rapids]

I'm going to fix Abbys right now

[gray oriole]

elliot's weapon was listed as 2% crit ch despite having +4 crit ch tooltip

which is physically impossible

i had to poke someone to fix that a few days ago

[chilly bloom]

Planchette still has a stupid high attack speed or was it also changed in a post 1.6 patch

[woven tusk]

Someone theorycrafted it with those numbers and got exactly the correct topend damage in live testing

[chilly bloom]

Damn not me predicting this shit 😎

[gray oriole]

you can literally see the image i posted right there

#archived-update-spoilers message

[chilly bloom]

Sorry I’m on data rn lmao so no images are loading

I’ll assume it’s been changed

[gray oriole]

it has the same stats as wicked kris and elliot's pencil now

[woven tusk]

Here is their math, and then you can scroll down from there to find the video they recorded of that exact damage

[chilly bloom]

I mean I told haboo that’s how it worked with 0 knowledge of it being so which makes me happy

[lavish rapids]

Alright I have corrected Abby's Planchette

[gray oriole]

anyway uh

[chilly bloom]

Oh yeah I read that already thanks tho

[minor lantern]

Sorry newb here but is there a purpose to a spouse having weapons? Can they fight in the mines with you?

[gray oriole]

I need someone to help me figure out what the fuck is going on with the Attack stat

[lavish rapids]

was there something else I got pinged for or is that all

[gray oriole]

no

[woven tusk]

Haboo's still at it? Brings me a little bit of comfort

[gray oriole]

its just a weapon set themed around spouse npcs

they sell them during desertfes

[chilly bloom]

Less so than before but yep, also congrats on desperado

[chilly bloom]

They can fight in the house and I believe they use their own weapon

Idk what Shane and Emily do

[lavish rapids]

was it just the percentage thing you had an issue with or is the phrasing confusing

[woven tusk]

The weapons were in the game since launch (and Emily/Shane weren't romanceable at the time, so they don't have any). They were never actually made legitimately obtainable until now, so they never had "real" stats

[lavish rapids]

I wonder what the original plan for those were

[chilly bloom]

They had stupid high speed values

[lavish rapids]

presumably CA didn't put them in just for fun

[minor lantern]

Okay like if you have the spawn monsters on your farm option checked?

[chilly bloom]

No like using a slime incubator in the house

[minor lantern]

Yeah that’s what I’m wondering if they will be further developed

[gray oriole]

if u hatch a slime egg in the house

[lavish rapids]

I'd say they are as deployed as they will ever be

[woven tusk]

The percentage made it wrong both ways, so removing it will make it less wrong.
(Critpower is probably not working as intended since it's so much more insanely powerful than the others)

[lavish rapids]

yeah no I removed it

[woven tusk]

[chilly bloom]

Well they just were “further developed” by making them obtainable

[woven tusk]

And had normal stat spreads applied

[lavish rapids]

AH NO THERES A SPACE MISSING

[gusty trail]

it's seems like Dinosaur Egg farming are much more profitable in 1.6 huh

[chilly bloom]

Still not amazing

[lavish rapids]

dude half of my wiki editing time is making sure there's no errors, I click publish, and then I immediatly notice an error

[chilly bloom]

Same lmao, the other day I edited the same page 4 times in a row

[gray oriole]

viable now

not great but viable

[chilly bloom]

^

[lavish rapids]

alright I'm going back to playing

[woven tusk]

Second-worst animal instead of actual worst

[gray oriole]

unless you're trying to do that crazy minimum perfection challenge

[gusty trail]

why is that?

[woven tusk]

I don't think the artifact price book works on their mayo.

[chilly bloom]

Because they still only lay once a week

[gray oriole]

and can't get artisan bonus

[woven tusk]

So their raw egg is still competing with artisan stuff

[chilly bloom]

It does not yep

[woven tusk]

Soooo yeah

(The worst is ducks, I believe)

[gray oriole]

that moment when getting a duck feather from a duck loses you money

[gusty trail]

this is definitely a problem, but what if we use golden animal crackers on it?

[gray oriole]

it lays 2 eggs a week

but u can also do that with anything not a pig

[undone imp]

anyways what was your problem here? it looks like it just adds +1 to +5 to your attack level, just like food buffs or whatnot

[woven tusk]

What happens when you have the +3 atk buff from food and then receive the -20 atk debuff from the enemy

[undone imp]

you get -17 atk

[gray oriole]

what exactly does 1 attack do

[molten turret]

it can kill monsters

[undone imp]

each point of attack just adds 3 to the amount of damage you deal

or if it's negative, subtracts 3

[gray oriole]

that is the conclusion I reached yes

[gusty trail]

why ducks? I think rabbit is the worst (because at some point I only got 1 rabbit's foot in a single year)

[gray oriole]

so then, what does +10% attack do

[molten turret]

it makes your base attack increase by +10%, i assume?

[gusty trail]

I imagine 2 iridium dinosaur egg a week is a good profit

[gray oriole]

again, you can apply the same thing to any other animal

[woven tusk]

So, what, does -17 attack make you heal the enemy?

[undone imp]

no, the damage is capped to be at least 1

[twilit solar]

I’ve been playing the update and its been really fun. I’m in winter now. But during summer there was the green rain thingy and clint STOLE MY AXE so i couldn’t cut down the green trees. So I just wanted to ask, is the green rain is like a rare random event or something else?

[molten turret]

the damage has to be at least 1

[undone imp]

it's once per year

[molten turret]

you can't have negative damage

[gray oriole]

nope, it does math.max between 1 or your atk stat

[gusty trail]

it's an summer random event

[twilit solar]

Guaranteed?

[gray oriole]

guaranteed once a year on set days of the summer

[twilit solar]

Ok, thanks!

[gray oriole]

wiki has a list of dates somewhere icba to find it

[twilit solar]

(I’m just trying to not check the wiki cause I’ve spoiled myself before and want this to be a fresh experience)

[woven tusk]

I haven't unlocked Dangerous dungeons. Have people been hitting for 1dmg with that debuff on?

[gray oriole]

if this is still confusing you, I'll lay out the math

[twilit solar]

Thanks again

[gray oriole]

with the artifact book, iridium dino eggs are worth 2100g, you get one a week

2100g/7 is 300g a day

a chicken lays 1 large egg a day which can be turned into gold mayo and sold for 399g/day with artisan

[woven tusk]

Imagine 14 gold mayo a week is better profit

[gray oriole]

you could double a dinosaur's eggs to 4200g for 600g/day yes

but you could also just... double a chicken's eggs for 2 gold mayos a day or nearly 800g

[silver magnet]

any ideas on how to get to volcano and more golden nuts>

[woven tusk]

Two iridium dino eggs are 4200G per week
Fourteen chicken mayo is 5586G per week

[undone imp]

how's this

[gusty trail]

I never see or feel that way before with my chicken, I guess i kinda underestimated my chicken

[gray oriole]

I just realized

what the heck why doesn't Rancher work on dino eggs

[undone imp]

because dino eggs are artifacts :)

[gray oriole]

chickens are middle of the pack for animal income to be clear

[undone imp]

and tbh it's better that they're artifacts because now you get the +200% from treasure appraisal guide instead of the +20% from rancher lol

[gray oriole]

they're also super cheap though so they're a good measure

[gray oriole]

sure but that shouldn't stop them from being animal products too

[undone imp]

oh you mean like how smoked fish are both fish and artisan? ...i think that'd just be a bit too op lol

[gray oriole]

artisan goods are allowed to benefit from rancher too despite being listed as Artisan Good and not Animal Product

[gray oriole]

they'd still be worse than chickens

20% more from dino eggs is 360/day

[gray oriole]

.

[undone imp]

yeah fair i guess

[gray oriole]

basically, justice for dinosaur eggs pls

dinosaur mayo could count as an artifact and it'd still be worse than chickens for reference

[gray oriole]

the logic for "low level melee weapons" is weird and slightly bugged rn btw

if you boost a melee weapon's level by forging it, it'll go over the threshold allowed for innate enchants

(specifically noticeable on dragontooth weapons)

idk if it was fixed or not but on the flip side, forging and unforging a galaxy weapon breaks the check and allows to take innate enchants too

also um

[molten turret]

wait i got a mystery box from crab pots ?

[gray oriole]

i'm not entirely sure what's going on with the lightweight enchant

the cap listed in the class file is 5, but the attemptapplyinnateenchant method attempts to roll a cap of 6

[undone imp]

random.next is end-exclusive

[gray oriole]

oh I see

[undone imp]

Next(1, 6) gives output in [1, 5]

[gray oriole]

hm

I think i'm wrong on the crit ch cap

[undone imp]

i added descriptions to the effects of each stat, and now realized that this is currently the only place (that i could find) that actually documents these effects lol

[gray oriole]

nevermind the way its implemented was weird enough i second guessed myself

[undone imp]

should i remove them from here and add them to the pages for each stat instead?

[molten turret]

how do i get the most amt of mystery boxes

[gray oriole]

add to both

[gray oriole]

fishing probably idk

double spinner + magnet

wherever has the most amount of easy fish

[molten turret]

i have iridium rod

[gray oriole]

u should probably unlink Crit Power in the crit power enchant since that's not actually what its boosting, maybe?

[undone imp]

uhhhhh yes it is though?

[gray oriole]

I'm not even sure how to begin describing what it's doing

[undone imp]

its code is basically the same as any of the other stat modifiers

[gray oriole]

not 100% sure the exact specifics of what's going on, but what it's currently doing is adding to a sorta 2nd crit damage stat that applies multiplicatively with the first crit power stat

go ingame and test it yourself

it seems to work like desperado currently

which is probably very unintended

worded another way, the CriticalPowerMultiplier buff that CriticalPowerEnchantment is buffing is not the same as thecritMultiplier stat used in critical damage calculations

[lavish rapids]

this is just personal but it annoys me how the slime stat is at the bottom of one category and at the top of the other

[undone imp]

i can move it to the bottom i guess

[undone imp]

the actual crit damage multiplier is this.critMultiplier.Value * (1f + who.buffs.CriticalPowerMultiplier) it seems

[gray oriole]

yes so a level 3 critpowerenchantment results in 1 + (3/2) or this.critMultiplier.Value * 2.5

[undone imp]

yeah i can see that

wait, is this.critMultiplier something different then?

[gray oriole]

can you screenshot the snippet

i have too many tabs open rn, i've lost track

[undone imp]

it's not a particularly nice line lol

this is in MeleeWeapon::DoDamage

[gray oriole]

yes so what the enchant's doing is adding to a new stat labelled CriticalPowerMultiplier in the player's buffs list

which the criticalMultiplier stat is getting multiplied by during damage calculations

I have no idea why

[undone imp]

so, it just stacks multiplicatively with the weapon's base crit power, instead of additively?

[gray oriole]

yes

same as desperado

[undone imp]

ugh now i should recheck the other stats too lol

[molten turret]

hehehe here we go

[gray oriole]

congrats

[molten turret]

not what i was looking for but great to have

[gray oriole]

actually can u double check for me too please if desperado's modifying the same stat, CriticalPowerMultiplier

[undone imp]

desperado checks later

[gray oriole]

where

[undone imp]

inside the damageMonster call that's called here

[gray oriole]

oh I see

[nimble turtle]

just got 5 prismatic shards 4 dino eggs 300 iridium ore plus a seed maker and a hat plus mega bombs plus some gold and iron ore 🙂 only made it to lvl 130

[gray oriole]

that's.. jank

i don't understand why he added a whole new stat for this one enchant

did he just typo a * instead of a +

[molten turret]

congrats!

[nimble turtle]

on a bad luck day 🙂

[molten turret]

ooh

[nimble turtle]

thanks

[molten turret]

daring arent you

[nimble turtle]

i couldnt stand to do the volcano for the 4th day in a row

[gray oriole]

if u wanna get fancy

I think for some of the innate enchants the chance of rolling a higher value scales with item level?

[undone imp]

it does yeah

[gray oriole]

i have no idea how you'd convey that info though

[nimble turtle]

what does a diamond enchantment do to the galaxy sword?

[undone imp]

though like, for most of them that's only relevant if you are enchanting really low level weapons, which is like,,, why would you bother lol

[gray oriole]

randomly fills slots with enchants

wouldn't recommend it

[chilly bloom]

It makes it twice as good. Until you realize you can just give any other animal the cracker for the same effect

[molten turret]

ope, there we go, got our first mystery box from fishing

[nimble turtle]

what would you recomend?

[molten turret]

hows the loot calculated?

[gray oriole]

aquamarine's pretty good rn

aquamarine + scout + desperado's a significantly larger damage bonus than ruby + fighter + brute

[nimble turtle]

k

[gray oriole]

if u really wanna use fighter/brute for whatever reason, ruby's the next best though

[silver magnet]

guys i have news: i hit manage to get to the Forge, and what is the best stuff i can use to upgrade my stuff?

[gray oriole]

well what are you using

[nimble turtle]

i have fighter defender

[silver magnet]

custom weapon, and i use amethyst to plant into my weapon giving a huge weight atm

[gray oriole]

well doesn't really matter actually, just scroll up

personally I find weight pretty bad

crits in 1.6 are strong enough where you can just make your crit one shot almost anything while having like 20-30% crit chance

[silver magnet]

a suggestion on what should i do to the current weapons?

[gray oriole]

works the same as geodes

[silver magnet]

is there a table for what is optimal or bad?

[molten turret]

but apparently its calculated separate from that ?

[gray oriole]

predictor works on mystery boxes

yes

[molten turret]

it didnt work

inaccurate

[rustic silo]

this is driving me crazy. in the og post about the 1.6 update, it has this blue hooded guy with sunglasses. i’ve googled everything i can think of to try and find where he would be and i haven’t found anything. has anyone seen him???

[gray oriole]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Fizz

[molten turret]

before i put a mystery box, i used a magma geode, apparently i was supposed to get quality fertilizer

i got fried mushrooms, yo

[molten turret]

he's Fizz, watery cave in ginger island once you can access qi's walnut room

[undone imp]

oh god so all the stat modifier innate enchantments are multiplicative. including crit chance. so it doesn't add to the aquamarine's +4%, it multiplies the entire crit chance by 1.06 (at best). kinda pointless lol

[molten turret]

watery cave is mushroom cave btw, the one you free professor snail from

[gray oriole]

wait what

[rustic silo]

THANK YOU. havent gotten there in my current farm but now i have even more motivation lol

[molten turret]

lol

[undone imp]

i should document this in the individual stats' pages probably

like "for this stat, thing X works multiplicatively, then thing Y adds to that, etc"

[gray oriole]

where is critch innate handled

[undone imp]

this same function call :)))

CriticalChanceMultiplier is 0 by default, increases to 0.06 with +3 crit chance innate, or to .16 if you also have aquamarine ring

and then 1+CriticalChanceMultiplier is multiplied with the "real" crit chance

which is modified by aquamarine enchantment

so basically: crit power innate OP, crit chance innate useless

[gray oriole]

knockback also looks like it is multiplicative

so at lv 5 it halves kb

[undone imp]

yeah

[gray oriole]

attack *actually * adds to the flat attack stat

def too

ok

[undone imp]

yeah this is complicated enough to warrant documenting on the individual stats' pages imo

[gray oriole]

is there any unexpected behavior with the attack speed stat

it seems to be handled somewhere else, but the variable name says Multiplier sooooo

found it

wait that is way higher than 30%

I was expecting it'd be like swipespeed / (1 + who.buffs.WeaponSpeedMultiplier

a 30% WeaponSpeedMultiplier results in umm...

42.85% attack speed increase?

[undone imp]

yeah something like that lol

[gray oriole]

yeah uh

good luck updating the wiki LOL

I'm glad I didn't try to poke that

[ionic bramble]

has any1 actually bought the golden walnuts for money b4

[gray oriole]

a lot of ppl get stuck with 1-2 walnuts left

[undone imp]

i'm sure someone has done a "max joja"% run lol

[gray oriole]

at like 10k gold/walnut it's not very expensive

[undone imp]

buy all joja forms, buy all walnuts you can (idk how many you need to reach the joja parrot), buy every single % of perfection

[gray oriole]

iirc just 1?

[ionic bramble]

im doing a joja run rn and its like 600k for like half of the walnuts and its tempting cause im so lazy

[gray oriole]

if uve already done the grind before then ig go for it

it doesn't change anything

[ionic bramble]

nah ive nvr done it on my og farm i got burnt out halfway through ginger island (on my non joja run)

i unlocked stuff on ginger island in a pretty...... not efficient way so im like scraping by w these walnuts

[molten turret]

fall y1, day 2.
slowly levelling up my skills

[mellow atlas]

It took me until year 3 fall to finish fishing skill :p

[gray oriole]

if u hate fishing a lot might i recommend the skip fishing mod

[mellow atlas]

And I was almost to perfection

Just had fish and some crafting recipes

[tiny torrent]

”slowly”

[mellow atlas]

Y1 with Qi gems but low farming?? What did u do for money??

[maiden fiber]

Ooo I like your interface mod, is it on nexus?

[gray oriole]

fishing or SC probably

[dusk glen]

That's painful

Fishing is painful

[gusty trail]

I need 2 journal scraps left to finish the ginger island, and I can't seems to find it

[gray oriole]

unlucky

also the last 2 seem to have a pretty bad drop rate

[maiden fiber]

I bomb caldera until I find them lol

[molten turret]

it's earthy interface by daisyniko

we live for daisyniko

oh looky here, i didnt notice a lucky ring went into my inventory

this is like my 5th LMAO

[maiden fiber]

Thanks!

[molten turret]

you see how combat, fishing and mining are maxed out? yeah i fished spring 2-7 and went to the SC most other days

[molten turret]

you're welcome

apparently also got that weird green ancient doll

[maiden fiber]

Why does ur ring have a quality? 0.0

[molten turret]

ooh farmer's almanac, more farming xp lets goo

[molten turret]

oh no it doesn't, my cursor has a star when im trying to favorite an item

[maiden fiber]

Ooo

[molten turret]

its for convenient storage

[maiden fiber]

Gotcha

[molten turret]

mhm

although ring qualities would be a fun thing to explore

[maiden fiber]

Night night Sada enjoy ur SC runs

[molten turret]

night

[maiden fiber]

Ikr lol

[molten turret]

eesh, good thing items dont explode when you blow 'em up 👀

[gusty trail]

ooh so I need to find it in caldera?

[high creek]

Well, Volcano in general. There's nothing to bomb in the caldera.

But killing mobs and bombing large groups of rocks is probably the best way to get scraps

[gray oriole]

treasure totems are an option too now

[silver magnet]

how much hearts does the luau gives anyways when u have a perfect score?

[chilly bloom]

120

About half of a heart, pretty good

[iron goblet]

hello, where's the Perk event?

at summer 15th?

[reef topaz]

Does anyone know where I can get water retaining soil i cant find the recipe at the island trader anymore for some reason. Not sure if this was changed.

[molten turret]

the Fair?

wdym perk?

the Luau??

[gusty trail]

seems like I need to bomb the whole volcano to find it then

[lusty pecan]

i have finished my collection

[reef topaz]

o damn u can get more than one per save file

[lusty pecan]

with challenge bait :)

[reef topaz]

does anyone know.

[lusty pecan]

deluxe retaining soil? that should be at the island trader yes

[gusty trail]

after some quick research, why do barn animal like cow is much more profitable than the goat sheep etc, in terms of gold per day? or my math ain't mathing

[undone imp]

a sheep is more profitable than a cow, last time i checked

...i didn't assume the sheperd profession, that would presumably make the sheep even more powerful

[molten turret]

because cows produce daily

that's why they have a good gold per day

[undone imp]

iridium quality wool turns into two cloth though, and cloth sells for quite a lot

[molten turret]

cows > goats

goats produce every two days

but their produce has to be more than double what cows produce to be better, which isn't the case

[gusty trail]

well yes, but if only they drop iridium quality wool, and if i recall, sheep produce wool every 2 days without the shepherd profession

[undone imp]

yeah it's only every 2 days, but if you have max mood+friendship you get iridium like 60% of the time, and gold 24% of the time

[gusty trail]

and with the shepherd profession they will yield once a day, but without the artisan profession, a cloth seems kinda lacking

[undone imp]

you can stockpile cloth, switch to artisan, sell it all, then switch back to sheperd

...admittedly quite a bit of effort for just some sheep lol

[gusty trail]

oh yeah, you're right

[silver magnet]

oh wha the hell. that luau trigger so many heart events

[gusty trail]

that means you are catching legendary fish with perfect bar, how???

[lusty pecan]

mostly blessing of waters and big fishing buffs

[wintry maple]

It's pretty easy with a max fishing setup

You can get a total of lv 19 in fishing iirc

[lusty pecan]

i did have to reset a good few times for the legend, but the rest of em were fairly easy with all the buffs

[remote escarp]

Hi! is there anything special about the green acid rain thing? will my crops still grow or nah?

[lusty pecan]

truee,, 19 requires desert festival though so that'd only be good for the legend

[wintry maple]

Well yeah

But we where talking about the ledgend no?

No, ledgentarys

Mb

Max is usually 16

[lusty pecan]

your crops are all good, what it does do is your trees get a massive spike in growth and there's moss everywhere

[remote escarp]

ooo so like a fertilizer rain?

[lusty pecan]

yea pretty much!

[remote escarp]

thats so cool! thanks

oh yeah I see it theres a bunch of grass and moss everywhere

[stray swift]

magic bait?

[lusty pecan]

cant get 3 without challenge bait.,

[stray swift]

right

[steady narwhal]

Damn nice

[plain flax]

I seem unable to add haymaker enchantment (or any other) to my iridium scythe. Seems like it would be useful. Any way to do it?

[gray oriole]

mods maybe

[plain flax]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/10668

Yup, just found this.

[molten turret]

I don't think scythes can have enchantments

And Haymaker is a weapon enchant, no?

[plain flax]

Correct. Seems silly that a scythe cant have haymaker, but its the vanilla behavior.

[molten turret]

Mmm.

[plain flax]

The mod above changes that, though. Might add it to my load order.

[lusty pecan]

scythes are technically weapons i think, but yeah they can't get enchants 😔

[gray oriole]

iirc scythes pretty much work like melee weapons so its even more silly

they get their own line in the melee weapon enchants excluding them I think

[undone imp]

alright i documented crit power and crit chance fully now i think
tldr: iridium needle with 3 aquamarines, +75 crit power innate, wear 2 aquamarine rings, scout+desperado, blessing of fangs
should give you something like a 64% crit chance with 700-1225 damage on crit

crit chance can be further increased by luck level, so add a magic rock candy in there too lol

[heady cairn]

hey everyone 🙂 ive been playing 1.6 since release, and i've just noticed that during fall yr 3, i've suddenly started getting new skull mines level layouts all of a sudden! does anyone know if this is just random or timed?

[undone imp]

this was added in 1.6.4

[molten turret]

1.6 addition

random i assume

[heady cairn]

ahhh thank you 🙂

[fallow gale]

Is there like an indicator wether the tree has moss or not?

[undone imp]

uhhhhhhh

it's covered in moss

kinda hard to miss tbh

basically if the tree's bark is covered in green stuff then it's mossy

though it becomes a kind of slimy orange in fall

[fallow gale]

ic ic tyvm

[molten turret]

moss on the wood

[steep hazel]

what is he asking for??

[heady cairn]

i think thats bruschetta

[undone imp]

looks like radish salad?

[molten turret]

radish salad

[molten turret]

❌

[heady cairn]

haha woops

[steep hazel]

Are radishes springtime

[molten turret]

i think so

summer

not spring

[nimble turtle]

I got the prismatic butterfly blessing got a prismatic shard and it made money sounds is this normal?

[undone imp]

yes, it sometimes gives a shard and always gives some money

[nimble turtle]

K always just got money before

[undone imp]

yeah it doesn't really live up to its name, only gives a prismatic shard 5% of the time (modified by daily luck), so it would be more accurate to call it something like golden butterfly with a very slight prismatic tinge

[soft wasp]

It can give prismatic shards? I've been ignoring it cause I thought it was just money

[soft wasp]

Maybe it should drop other items more commonly so people understand that it's not just money

[gray oriole]

5% + daily luck

[lusty pecan]

i am quite close to perfection,, :)

[sonic skiff]

[molten turret]

ooh very close

[sacred river]

Buy waivers

Embrace the joja

[molten turret]

Oh yeah buy waivers

[lusty pecan]

i have the recipes and probably ingredients but im just too lazy to craft em all rn (and i also need like,, 9 million more g for the golden clock)

[molten turret]

We love the joja

[sonic skiff]

you can do it!! waiver-free!!

[soft wasp]

Get everything but golden clock and then spend 5 Million on waivers instead of 10 million on the golden clock

[gray oriole]

But then u have no clock

[lusty pecan]

true,,

[soft wasp]

that's another plus

[lusty pecan]

clocks are cool i think

[gray oriole]

Clock is cool

[soft wasp]

right but the golden clock is cringe

[sonic skiff]

what, you WANT debris spreading on your farm and destroying your decorations??

[gray oriole]

Ur cringe

[soft wasp]

:(

[gray oriole]

I like decorations

[soft wasp]

Me too, and I think debris makes for great decoration

[gray oriole]

Weeds destroy decorations

[sonic skiff]

debris ate my stone owl >:( and i won't have the event again for a while

[lusty pecan]

debris meanie,,

[sonic skiff]

like it appeared, and the very next night it got eaten :(

[sacred river]

I only use the golden clock to stop fence decay personally

[soft wasp]

I would love an anti-golden clock that makes big logs, stumps, and boulders spawn on your farm

[sacred river]

I never decorate so weeds aren't an issue

[soft wasp]

that I would buy

[sonic skiff]

the spouse has been very effective at stopping fence decay for me, it procs just often enough to keep hardwood fences from breaking

[gray oriole]

I dont use fences

Its all lightning rods and tea bushes and trees

[sonic skiff]

but if you want to use some of the lower durability fences then the clock is gonna be better bc you could get unlucky and not get the fence repair for a while

[sacred river]

Hardwood fences are great but I like the rustic look of normal fences

[soft wasp]

tea bushes make for great unbreakable fences

[sonic skiff]

i tried to make an Alternative Textures pack for tea bushes to turn them into hedges but all bushes have a weird minor bug where their sprites are slightly skewed after they get shaken

so the hedges would misalign by like a single pixel

[undone imp]

btw does anyone know the bug where you can clip through fences using a horse

i discovered it and haven't placed a single gate since lol

[sonic skiff]

yeah, i've clipped into my barn a few times on accident

whoa, it still works in 1.6?

[gray oriole]

Still around

[sonic skiff]

sick, so it's still possible to do a farm filled entirely with barns and navigate it by clipping

[gray oriole]

Sure but thats ugly

[short cloud]

Small discovery, you can put paths over pet bowls to hide the base 👀

[sonic skiff]

the true purpose of this patch note

[short cloud]

Honestly one of the best updates, and theres a lot of good updates lol

[gusty trail]

where can I find the update logs?

[wooden oyster]

You mean mushroom logs?

[sharp slate]

nah bro means the actual changelogs

[wooden oyster]

Ahhh

[wooden oyster]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Version_History

I can’t wait to try speedrunning mastery by end of Spring.

Depending on SC efficiency, Foraging is very doable. Just watched Haboo get roughly 1500 eggs in one day at the festival with minimal stuff.

[lusty pecan]

zoomed through most of the cooking recipes just now, just gotta do the rest of those and then the Crafting recipes and then money

(will do all that another time though because it is late and im sleepy)

[fathom saffron]

is 0.65 seconds dealing 9 to 14 damage good for my magical quiver?

it took a lot to get it at this

[fathom saffron]

yeah I've looked at that

[undone imp]

that's a pretty average rapid quiver. not as much damage per second as a perfect one but could be useful for knocking back enemies i guess

[fathom saffron]

mm

I guess I'll have to try to reforge it a bit more 😦 iono just doesn't feel so good yet

[sharp slate]

roll for perfect then

[fathom saffron]

that's what I'm trying to do I think

just haven't gotten there

[gray oriole]

I feel like farming 10 ends up being the most annoying factor in a mastery speedrun

[wooden oyster]

Doable though. Approx. 400 Strawberry seeds.

Need roughly 80k gold by egg festival. 40k for seeds. 40k for desert.

[gray oriole]

Do u not upgrade your pickaxe

[wooden oyster]

Fishing 10 completed day 6 (for me). Mine regular sprinklers. From day 7-12. Copper and iron. Need about 100.

[wooden oyster]

I do. Day 3 and 5 iirc. Or 4 and 6?

I think 3 and 5.

I don’t get gold pickaxe.

Then day 13, festival. Day 14 setting up the strawberries. Days 15-17 SC and festival. That’s for foraging, mining, and combat.

And days 18-28 spent finishing those 3 skills up.

Start forest farm for forageables.

And stumps.

The real problem might be combat. Not sure. With a shard, should be fine I think. Still you gotta kill 750 serpents to go from 0 to 10.

[gray oriole]

If u can get elliot or abby’s weapon, u can maybe get away with no galaxy sword

[wooden oyster]

I didn’t even consider anything other than galaxy sword. Are they strong?

[gray oriole]

They have the same stat line as wicked kris

Its more that crits are a lot stronger in 1.6

[wooden oyster]

Ahhh. Nice. I’ll have to think about that.

How does the speedrun sound though? Make sense? Or any flaws I’m not considering?

[gray oriole]

Idk

Im still testing stuff

Been mostly focusing on figuring 1.6 mechanics for the wiki

[wooden oyster]

Gotcha. I think someone more mechanically gifted and on PC could pull it off. Especially with animation cancelling.

[wooden oyster]

I mean, you’re doing a good job with it. Helped me reading through you and Sic figuring stuff out.

[gray oriole]

Innate enchants sure are some spaghetti code

[wooden oyster]

Lol. The attack buff thing you mentioned was funny.

Sounded so useless.

[gray oriole]

Its actually useful for hammers if u werent around for my later testing

So it at least has a use case

[wooden oyster]

Oh I wasn’t. How so?

[gray oriole]

It got supplanted by the crit ch enchant

Well its +3 dmg per atk so thats +15 dmg at lv5

Hammers cant crit

Dragonteeth hammer hits 80-100 compared to infinity hammer’s 100-120

So throw in +15 dmg and now its 95-115 or almost infinity hammer dmg

[wooden oyster]

But doesn’t the dragon tooth club have a crit chance on it naturally? So it actually doesn’t crit?

[gray oriole]

All weapons but templar have crit ch

Hammer spec just specifically cant crit

Dragontooth has innate 50 crit power though

Which is +100 crit dmg

U can stack +aspd innate enchant with +attack

Up to +30%

So u now have a dragontooth club that hits very slightly less than an infinity hammer on specials

Has 33% more crit dmg (base is 300%)

Swings faster than infinity hammer

Nd has lower kb

[wooden oyster]

Im still stuck on something though. If hammers can’t crit, how does the +100 crit dmg come into play?

[gray oriole]

Regular swings during cd

[wooden oyster]

Ohhhh. Duh.

Makes sense.

[gray oriole]

The only thing infinity hammer had over it was its base dmg for special spam

+attack removes that advantage

Anyway

[gray oriole]

Crit ch replaced it as the most useless enchant

Idk wtf CA was doing but the enchant multiplies your crit ch by 2% per level

So if u have 20% crit ch u now have 21.2% at max lvl

[wooden oyster]

Lol

[gray oriole]

Fixed a typo

Crit dmg is also uh

Hilariously overpowered

[wooden oyster]

1.2% is pathetic. Haha.

[gray oriole]

It works the same as desperado basically

+25 crit power per lvl, aka +50% dmg

So at lv3 it makes crits do +150% more dmg

To clarify, it doesnt increase your critical damage multiplier by 150%

It makes critical hits do x2.5 dmg

So desperado + critpower 3 is x5 dmg

[wooden oyster]

I mean that sounds strong no? Yeah that’s sounds insane lol. X5 damage?

[gray oriole]

With base crit dmg its x15

[wooden oyster]

Oof.

[gray oriole]

Iridium needle gets x35

I get the feeling that will be nerfed eventually

But in the meantime, crit power enchant is absolute batshit insane

[undone imp]

i think this is the most insane build i could come up with

[wooden oyster]

So crit dmg is what you want. Because that sounds crazy. That 1.2% increase isn’t equating for me to what you just mentioned. Crit ch sounds useless.

[gray oriole]

Oh yeah I made a typo

[gray oriole]

Supposed to be useless

Attack has a use case for hammers in specific, crit ch is useless as heck, crit power is off the charts overpowered

[wooden oyster]

Ahh. Ok got it.

[gray oriole]

U forgot iridium band i think

[undone imp]

ok yeah that would get like 20% more lol

[gray oriole]

And i guess a ginger ale for that 1 luck

[harsh plover]

If you get a high SC score on the desert festival will you get all the rewards before it?

For example if I get a score of 55 will I also get the prize for 25-54?

[undone imp]

qi seasoned ale is +2, but i didn't even count the magic rock candy luck for that

with magic rock candy alone the crit chance goes from 64% to like 72% i think

but it's kinda diminishing returns bc you already have more than enough crit chance tbh

[gray oriole]

U can only submit once a day i think

[harsh plover]

That's not what I asked though p:

If you submit your 55 score will you get the earlier rewards as well (like Gil's hat?) Or only the 55+ rewards

[gray oriole]

The answer is no

[harsh plover]

Dang

[gray oriole]

If you want the hat, stop at 54 i think

Wonder if the hat has special behavior for its check

[undone imp]

the only special behavior is "if you have received the hat, give espresso instead"

[gray oriole]

Was hoping it’d only check for a minimum of 25 rather than be locked to that one tier

[harsh plover]

Yeah it's a bit annoying

[gray oriole]

Feels like something worth making a minor qol mod for maybe

@undone imp do u mind updating the forge page for crit ch

[undone imp]

oh yeah i noticed a typo i made there but forgot about it lol

was that the thing you meant or did you mean something else

[eager sundial]

Guys! You can actually place bomb near your crops, water the bomb, and then the bomb will automatically water your plants! Jus make sure to use a copper watering can or other upgrading watering can! Its a new update ||please dont do this||

[stray swift]

bit late

[gray oriole]

Way its worded rn makes it looks like it adds crit ch

[undone imp]

well i mean technically it does increase crit chance by 2%, but not by 2 percentage points :)

[gray oriole]

Maybe modify it slightly to say it adds crit ch multiplier or something not sure

[undone imp]

feel free to reword it, i thought the link to the full calculation there was enough

[gray oriole]

I think most ppl would look at the calculation and immediately get overwhelmed

Probably

idk

[undone imp]

like the problem is "multiplies crit chance by 1.02" isn't accurate either, because this combines additively with the aquamarine rings... but it's probably better than the current text yeah

[gray oriole]

Which is why i didnt say multiplies crit ch by 1.02

“Adds 0.02 to crit chance multiplier” is the best i could come up with

Imo its still not the best either though

Maybe “multiplies crit ch by 1 + 0.02 per level (additive with aquamarine ring)”

[stray swift]

isnt there stuff applied after aquamarine ring for cc

[undone imp]

with aquamarine it actually still ends up multiplying by roughly 1.02 or something, i think it's like 1.018 instead of 1.2 lol, but that's clearer imo and close enough to accurate

[silent island]

how many powdermelon seeds do i need to make a big one?

[stray swift]

9

[silent island]

ok thx

btw how rare is a seed spot? (like the ones with the wiggly roots not artifact spots)

[molten turret]

somewhat rare

[silent island]

ok

[steady narwhal]

Damn nice so wiki updated the forge innate enchants

[molten turret]

yeah

i saw them discussing over how to edit it

[steady narwhal]

I knew crit chance by innate was additive but didn't know it was double

Seems like iridium needle highest crit chance possible is 97% with all going to crit chance

[wintry maple]

not even 100% smh

[steady narwhal]

Higher than the 91% I initially thought

[steady narwhal]

All of them are good

[steady narwhal]

Iridium needle already busted. 97% for 400 dmg or 1.2k by around 70% would kill stuff most of the time

[woven tusk]

Current headcanon: Gil is too stunned to give you his hat (the rest of the reward comes from Marlon, who is managing to stay composed)

[tough remnant]

He freaked out and just spilled his entire collection of eggs on the ground, while also spitting out his candy at you

[woven tusk]

All the spaghetti Calico Eggs fall out of my pockets

[drowsy steeple]

sure, ping me any time

goby and salmon can apparently be caught at any time since the fish code is overridden (it doesn't use the normal code with times and stuff)

        {
            if (bobberTile.X > 50f && bobberTile.X < 66f && bobberTile.Y > 100f && (!(who?.CurrentTool is FishingRod r) || !r.QualifiedItemId.Contains("TrainingRod")))
            {
                float gobyChance = 0.15f;
                if (who?.CurrentTool is FishingRod rod)
                {
                    if (rod.HasCuriosityLure())
                    {
                        gobyChance += 0.15f;
                    }
                    if (rod.GetBait() != null && rod.GetBait().Name.Contains("Goby"))
                    {
                        gobyChance += 0.2f;
                    }
                }
                if (Game1.random.NextDouble() < (double)gobyChance)
                {
                    return ItemRegistry.Create("(O)Goby");
                }
                if (Game1.random.NextDouble() < 0.15 && Game1.IsFall)
                {
                    return ItemRegistry.Create("(O)139");
                }
            }
            return base.getFish(millisecondsAfterNibble, bait, waterDepth, who, baitPotency, bobberTile, locationName);
        }```

the page on cindersap forest seems to directly contradict the page on goby

[tough remnant]

That's outdated

You need to update your decomp

[drowsy steeple]

I assumed it didn't change since there was nothing in the changelog lmao

[tough remnant]

Waterfalls are in Location data now

Rather than being an override

Also targeted bait multipliers (and bonus? which is only used for Goby) are defined in location data now

Also for some reason CA replaced the 1.66 multiplier with 1.659999966621399

[drowsy steeple]

that's probably your decomp?

[tough remnant]

No

This isn't decomp

It's in location data now

Straight from the json

[drowsy steeple]

lmao

so in the new fish data goby is 8:00 18:00 which still doesn't explain the discrepancy

while salmon is 6:00 19:00

[arctic crest]

If you put clothes in a wardrobe, can you pull multiple copies of it out? Or is it just however many you put in?

[tough remnant]

They have IgnoreFishDataRequirements on

[tough remnant]

Just what you put in

[arctic crest]

I had never used them, so I wasn't sure. Thanks

This update makes them much more necessary with everything giving you clothes randomly lmao

Does co-op make a dresser accessable for everyone, or are the contents not shared between players if using the same dresser?

[drowsy steeple]

I'm not seeing this

every fish is 1.66 except goby which is 1.0

[tough remnant]

Huh, that's weird then

Gotta be some weird compression artifacts with the values going on somewhere

Can't say I actually know much about XNB compression

[drowsy steeple]

1.0 => ~1.66 is not a compression artifact

[tough remnant]

Not Goby

Goby is 1.0

Actually, Goby is just 1

No decimal point whatsoever

[drowsy steeple]

basically it replaces the multiplicative bonus with the additive one

[tough remnant]

Yeah

[drowsy steeple]

@tough remnant new condition just dropped

CanUseTrainingRod is basically only used for waterfall fish

[tough remnant]

Wait WTF

Oh of course lol

Because it ignores fish data requirements

[drowsy steeple]

but not for legendary family

[tough remnant]

So it needs to replicate the CanUseTrainingRod data from there lol

[drowsy steeple]

training rod check is outside if (!spawn.IgnoreFishDataRequirements) lmao

so that part of the data is redundant

[tough remnant]

It's double checked I think?

[drowsy steeple]

not in CheckGenericFishRequirements

or GameLocation.cs for that matter

[tough remnant]

Oh okay found it, yeah this is amusing

Oh wait, that last bit is tutorial catch

Not training rod

Okay yeah, it's just location data can override whether something is training rod catchable

[drowsy steeple]

it's an OR gate?

if (location data training rod check) else (fish data training rod check)

oh wait you can override it by setting it to false

but what's funny is that salmon is 50 and goby is 55 so no override is needed anyway

[narrow parrot]

Aw, yee.

First Mastery rank.

What should I do first?

[steady narwhal]

Nice how was it?

[narrow parrot]

Farming?

[steady narwhal]

I did combat first

And farming last

[narrow parrot]

I was thinking I would do Farming first because then I could get the rest faster.

[woven tusk]

If you've got a lot of crops to harvest, farming is a great choice to make it go a lot faster. Frees up a lot of time to do other things

[narrow parrot]

I do indeed.

[woven tusk]

It doesn't generate EXP in fewer days than before, it just gives you back a few hours per harvest (and enables some new weird shed/gardenpot/trellis formations)

You could grow Pineapples in a shed using Deluxe Retaining Soil like this. The iridium scythe can collect crops 3 tiles north or 2 tiles in any other direction. You could also replace the kegs with more garden pots, but kegs on their own have no good way of exploiting the new higher-efficiency layout aside from "piggybacking" like this

You could also do it with hops but that'll probably drive you mad.

[narrow parrot]

Yeah, exactly. Saves me some days.

I can gather more exp in a single day because I'm spending less time harvesting.

[woven tusk]

Ye, you could say there is higher EXP per day by being able to get it elsewhere. That makes sense too

Just had a thought...
177 garden pots and 5-6 offsite dehydrators generate 371.7 pineapples' worth of money with Artisan.
90 garden pots with 77 onsite kegs and 13 offsite kegs generate only very slightly more (378 plants' worth of money with Artisan)
'Course, if you're willing to vandalize the rest of the world by covering it in kegs, the keg-shedspace issue vanishes anyway. Hm.

[dapper nexus]

hi

[floral geode]

[dapper nexus]

me new here

[floral geode]

welcome in <3

[dapper nexus]

thx

wizard is trying to poop

what is this

[woven tusk]

Mermaid's Pendant but 🏳️‍🌈 gayyyyy

[dapper nexus]

oh ok

put these on and talk to lewis

[woven tusk]

[pulsar stump]

Congratulations on coming out mayor Lewis. We all knew you're actually married to Linus

[fiery orchid]

does pierre work on the days of the desert festival?

[dapper nexus]

all pierre does is advertise

[reef mica]

grandpa

[woven tusk]

I get it.

He knows he can leave it all to you now, and he's literally hanging up his hat

[harsh plover]

It's funny cause I got all masteries before the evaluation

[woven tusk]

Indeed... It would make more story sense for the hat to show up after full mastery and a 4-candle evaluation, I suppose

[pine hamlet]

mastery is alot more easier than perfection tho, maybe grandpa hangs up the hat to say like now you complete what I started

[slender wing]

Never seen that hat there before and assumed it was a construction workers hat with a crack in it and was like "that doesnt relate to the grandpa at all"

[sharp slate]

I wonder how "viable" it is to do a foraging playthrough now with mushrooms/mushroom lots, dehydrators, maybe fruit trees, and mystic syrup as your main income

[pine barn]

man, I do love breaking the counter

[sacred river]

Mastery is nothing compared to Perfection

Leveling up the mastery tracker is very simple enough tbh

[pine hamlet]

yes but now with fizz I feel like perfection feels less authenthic

cuz after a while 500k gets easy to gain

so you could buy 10-15 precent easily.

[woven tusk]

Easy, but often takes longer to get

[pine barn]

honestly, I think it could be done pretty easily

I mean, look at these dehydrator numbers

[sharp slate]

A big problem is it doesn't actually take off til you have mystic trees so you struggle without mastery

Oh I didn't mean dehydrated crops

[woven tusk]

Have to play "normally" until then, yeah

[sharp slate]

I'm talking about TRUE forager maxing

Like how fishers have ponds and fish smokers

[woven tusk]

Mushrooms can be jarred, I think? Which might be stronger. But takes more space of course

[pine barn]

Well, the mushrooms ain't to be sniffed at either

[reef mica]

bro sold everything

[pine barn]

I did

that was the point

[reef mica]

he can finally buy lewis home

[pine barn]

not a he

[reef mica]

oh

sorry about dat

[pine barn]

no big

[sharp slate]

Can't be upset with em, you don't list any pronouns

[woven tusk]

What would you even do with Lewis' manor. You don't need to own it to raid his shorts dungeon

[sharp slate]

Become king of the valley

[reef mica]

yes but leave him homeless

and get all the tax money

[pine barn]

I know. It just amuses me when people assume gender. 😄

[sharp slate]

I default to he a lot too

It doesn't mean anything to me, just yappin

[reef mica]

well i mean you had a chicken i took a random guess

or is it not a chicken

what is that pfp

[pine barn]

Howl's Moving Castle

[reef mica]

ah

[sharp slate]

Howl moving castle

Yeah

[reef mica]

havent seen any of them movies

[woven tusk]

Uggghhh but then you have to ship your crops yourself every morning

[reef mica]

true

[pine barn]

anyway, as we were saying, peaches, pomms and mangoes are also great for the dehydrator

so, you use them and mushrooms and that's a pretty steady income stream

plus fairy rose honey

[woven tusk]

I have not played enough Junimo Kart to master this maneuver

F u c k

[reef mica]

ayo where you drivin like that

[woven tusk]

These images are from a discussion of how Lewis gets his truck onto the highway to deliver our shipments and collect payment every morning

[reef mica]

doesnt it say that the truck is broken when you interact with it

or was that from stardew expanded

[maiden fiber]

._.

I thought Pam got a pickup truck

[harsh plover]

Any tips for my 3 Legends 6 legend roe run?

[reef mica]

dont have any tips but good luck

[soft wasp]

What if he uses the bus?

He could use the space for the thousands of bottles of ancient fruit wine you might ship at once

[mellow atlas]

but i thought that on the perfection board it says how many waivers have you bought

so you can't trick anyone even yourself

[woven tusk]

Bus was broken when you showed up

[mellow atlas]

but ofc waivers way easier

golden clock for 10% is 10 mil

[pine hamlet]

I dunno maybe mr qi also gloats you for being a lazy fuck, he sure gets violent if you glitch into the summet

[mellow atlas]

but waivers go like 5 mil or 1.5 i dont remember

[mellow atlas]

yeah 5 mil

[woven tusk]

He doesn't mind waivers, just as he's alright with staircasing the skull cavern. He just gets mad about skipping perfection entirely

[mellow atlas]

hardest part of perfection is completing all the crafting...

[woven tusk]

If you buy waivers and then get 100% perfection points legitimately afterward, does the counter still include the waiver count?
Because it would be funny to endure the full Max Waivers challenge playthrough and then get legit Perfection afterward to have 100+97%

[livid imp]

imo its lame how fizz only does perfection

he should also sell auto-petters for community center folk

[molten turret]

is that from the stardew forums or

[sonic skiff]

as a pixelated video game truck, shouldn't it be capable of rotating 90 degrees in a single frame? so no need to curve

[molten turret]

real

[neat sail]

Okay interesting, I caught a few gobies past 11pm so that definitely needs to be updated yeah
Is the salmon code you sent still correct or no? Don't fully understand the later conversation/what to update the wiki with

[silver magnet]

meanwhile i'm coughing blood

[neat sail]

Moneyyy

That reminds me to buy the dehydrator from pierre

Still don't have it 4 weeks after release 😭

[woven tusk]

Bit abhorrent to put Ancient/Starfruit into the dehydrator, huh

[neat sail]

If you have more starfruit/ancient than kegs it's better than selling raw

I've got like 50 kegs and plant 350-400 starfruit every 13 days on GI, I'd rather dehydrate than sell raw

[sharp slate]

A bit based you mean

[crystal copper]

question, are this things sometimes feel shooting longer than 3.1 secs when they first see enemy (or already out of combat), im not sure if its cooldown reset or bug or even feature

[austere oracle]

Are pigs still the best money making animal with the introduction of the animal crackers?

[woven tusk]

Well, I believe 3sec is the default cooldown on the dagger special attack, so you can use that as a metric if you don't have Acrobat/Artful reducing it

[neat sail]

Sheep are either better or a close second now

[woven tusk]

IIRC yes per animal, no per farm space

[neat sail]

I do not remember but ik sheep are one of the ideal end-game animals

[austere oracle]

Ty! I suppose the fact that sheep produce all year, unlike pigs, helps too

[woven tusk]

Pigs' handicaps are that plus needing pasture space (sheep can function without leaving the barn), and needing their pasture cleared frequently by hand (Autograbber handles the shearing for you so you can go in and loom the wool whenever you please)

[neat sail]

I wish autograbber grabbed truffles

[neat sail]

Plus with hopper it automatically puts them into the loom iirc?

[steady narwhal]

I still wonder how on earth Lewis manages to park his truck near the river

[woven tusk]

You can do that, though you would have to load the hoppers yourself and put the hoppers+looms somewhere you frequently walk past so you can empty the looms frequently

[neat sail]

Ah I mixed up hoppers with automate, thought it transferred from the grabber > hopper > loom automatically
I spend too much time looking at mods

[tough remnant]

Pigs are really good when you have tons of empty farm space, they are maximum income per-animal if you have the outdoor space for them.
Once your farm starts filling in, and you start shrinking the amount of space they have to forage, they stay good for a while, and then eventually become entirely useless. At that point, you have 3 real options:

• Golden Chickens: by far the highest income-density in the game. As a bonus, they're good even unprocessed if you switch profession to Coopmaster, which makes them extrmely IRL time-efficient. Downside, they're post-perfection and you need to incubate them one at a time per coop.
• Sheep: You get around 44.4 Cloth per barn per day with Sheep, with golden crackers, max happiness and the Shepherd profession. Basically same income as Golden Chickens (slightly higher if you horde cloth and switch to Artisan just to sell once a year or something!), but not as dense because Barns take more space than Coops. Also requires a fair amount of processing to really get the most out of it.
• Ostriches: They're not as good as Sheep, but they don't need Shepherd to be good, which means you can just keep Artisan 24/7 and barely lose anything. They also produce a lot less stuff than Sheep, so you don't need to spend as much time processing all your animal goods.

[silver magnet]

OK give me a break. at least give me something like a god weapon, i have finish all u give me gramps,

[vapid furnace]

You already have a breaker blade from a far away land

Don't know if it'll be better

[woven tusk]

He literally gave you a game feature from another universe, give him some slack

[vapid furnace]

Turns out the actual name is the Buster Sword, and I just called it by the reference it had in Terraria, whoops

[livid imp]

is putting starfruit into the dehydrator thing profitable?

[silver magnet]

eh not bad tho

[buoyant tendon]

not as much as kegs, but its faster and still pretty nice

[woven tusk]

Without Artisan, normal or silver quality gain value in the dehydrator; gold and iridium do not.
With artisan, only iridium does not

[buoyant tendon]

i like dehydrators for when i dont have the patience for kegs

when im in desperate need of money that i cant wait for , rather

[woven tusk]

They're great as a stepping stone for early to mid game

[buoyant tendon]

yeah

wish i knew about their potential before like, late midgame

still made good use of em though

[woven tusk]

Where a player would likely be growing a zillion blueberries/cranberries, which are extremely impractical to keg/jar but very practical to dehydrate

[buoyant tendon]

for once i decided to pick the mushroom cave, and i dehydate em all. plus the mushrooms from my stumps

i sell the non-common dehydrated mushrooms

and take the common ones to eat

though, i might just start sellin the common ones since ive stockpiled gold cheese

[silver magnet]

do they have a dehydrator chart?

on how much each dried food profit

[glossy ore]

x1.5 +5 per unit

x1.5 for grapes per unit

(works in 5s though)

[iron goblet]

Sorry I replied late. I think it's a pike event that supposed to happen in town. But I don't see it, and it's not in the calendar either

[soft wasp]

You'd think raisins would be a little bit better for grapes

I find it kinda sad when special items like that aren't actually worth making

[glossy ore]

their profit comes from junimo boosts

[woven tusk]

Ye, the chance for Junimo double harvest is why you'd make Raisins

[soft wasp]

Yeah but raisins themselves I feel should sell better than other dehydrated fruit

[supple zodiac]

hello

[glossy ore]

at least the same as others

[supple zodiac]

i have a issue, i might want to ask for those who have perfection.

[warped yew]

God i wish there was an easier way to get Fire Quartz

[soft wasp]

It's the same thing with tea leaves. Pickled tea leaves are more profitable than tea iirc

[supple zodiac]

for some reason ||my summit backgorund its black||

i dint use cheats or nothing so im kinda freaking out 😅

[woven tusk]

Get one and stick it in the crystalarium from the Vault bundle. At least, that's what I did to make my dehydrators

Generates about one per day, I believe

[soft wasp]

Stick the quartz in the dehydrator?

[vapid furnace]

Quartz is a crystal

Crystalarium time

[buoyant lark]

mmmm dehydrated crystals

[vapid furnace]

And for some reason, most other things you wouldn't think of working does work, like marble if I recall correctly

[glossy ore]

abigail would be happy

[woven tusk]

They're just razzing me for being a lil sleep-deprived and saying dehydrator the first time when I meant crystalarium

[soft wasp]

If you stick an aquamarine in the dehydrator, do you get a marine at the end?

[soft wasp]

Every mineral works except the Prismatic Shard

[slim fox]

something i learned recently, fire quartz gives 3 refined quartz, so i use those in crystalarium instead of regular quartz...

[drowsy steeple]

I hate that everything you need for crystalarium can be easily mined, except battery packs which has to come from the sky one way or another

storm, sun, bats, or the biblical angel pamela

[wraith crater]

be thankful that there's even a free one from cc

[woven tusk]

Haw haw haw BATtery

[tough remnant]

What about best girl, the Travelling Merchant?

[woven tusk]

Weeeeelllllll IIRC if you meet a certain earnings milestone before going to the Summit, her pig flies

[buoyant lark]

yeah

[robust spoke]

wasnt it like 50 mil or 500 mil?

[buoyant lark]

if you've turned a significant amt of your children into doves, a flock of them can fly by as well

[west blade]

can i place a chest on top of volcano and will it disappear?

[buoyant tendon]

yknow for a while i thought the traveling cart person was a mustached man

i dont know how

i just never looked at her portrait ig??

[vapid furnace]

I don't think she has a portrait in the base game

[woven tusk]

Does she have a portrait?

[vapid furnace]

Cause I remember going "Ooh, that's new" when playing SVE

[woven tusk]

She has portraits... Of your spouse

[buoyant tendon]

oh maybe she doesnt then it makes more sense i misread her design

[vapid furnace]

Why isn't there world sprites for the NPCs, just their dialogue box portraits

On the wiki I mean

I understand why you'd think she had a mustache since...

[buoyant lark]

theres an awesome mod that fixes that

[neat sail]

Portraits for vendors!

Been meaning to download it myself

[woven tusk]

Most vendors do show their portraits if they have one

[livid seal]

What can i put more in this

[vapid furnace]

Isn't there a carpet from the casino?

[livid seal]

nope

it's from the furniture catalogue ig

[vapid furnace]

I was thinking of these, thought it was from the casino for some reason

Maybe the golden / regular mystery boxes can go on those two corner tables?

[livid seal]

I was thinking about the emerald from terraria

on one of them