Cell (Perfect Form)

[surreal totem]

It only happens once per target I'm ps

[olive zephyr]

It’s when they get to a certain amount of HP and after you use one of your moves

[sand dune]

So I plan on getting Cell next, any tips I should know about him at all?

[tidal condor]

His first form is very squishy and farming is key.
My last few games with him I did a little wandering farming when all the NPCs were dead and Zeno wasn't on us, and it felt good.

His transformation feels really strong

[sturdy mantle]

Yeah but

No iframes

If you transform when being attacked it gets canceled unlike super saiyan transformations

Has to figure that out the hard way

[tidal condor]

I just meant his stats feel very good, but that's a good point!! I didn't know that, it thought it was a glitch or something lol

[little hemlock]

I never have problem transforming mid fight

I did notice he got longer delay than OG saiyans when transforming

[sand dune]

I forgot to ask earlier, but is there a certain skill order I should go in? In terms of unlocking/upgrading?

[uneven kestrel]

What about perfect cell in dokkan

The str tur

[buoyant spade]

I can only tell you what order I prefer to go in. Skill one and skill two first since up to level three is grinding. Skill 2 to rank 2 next, skill 3 at level 5, either skill 3 or 1 after that, and ult at level 7. If I chose to get skill one to rank two, I like to Max it out at level eight. From there I play it by ear

But still two only needs to get up to rank 2. Once that happens it is low priority to super

[sand dune]

And is there something I'm not understanding about the drain attack? I play on PS5, and it says X to drain, but it doesn't seem to do anything

[little hemlock]

It automatically procs

Unlike the saiyans, you transform by get drain attacks until the gauge's full

[sand dune]

One more question, what're the best cards to go for on him?

[buoyant spade]

Well, it automatically procs if you're holding the X button to rush attack.

[little hemlock]

I always assume everyone always hold rush when attacking instead mashing it

[shy wagon]

Who can give some advice on how to lay with cell

[surreal totem]

Farm NPCs while you aren't doing anything.

Farming with cell is extremely important

Like

It's his number 1 priority

[shy wagon]

I should farm until I get his PF?

[surreal totem]

If you don't have anything else to do

Helping your teammates should always come before farming

I've lost too many games due to someone priorizing farming over helping claim objectives

The team comes first, but you should always try and get your bioenergy from NPCs

[shy wagon]

Ok, what the most important skill he has

[surreal totem]

Skill 1 is his main damage skill

Skill 2 is his combo starter / trap skill

Skill 2 is what I use to start my combo

I go skill 2 into skill 1 into ult

Skill 3 is his main way to regen during battle

Remember, the lower your health the more health you get

And the more you get hit the more health you regain too

[shy wagon]

wow cool

[surreal totem]

Ult is just forcing someone into a 1v1

He's not very complicated once you get the hang of him

[shy wagon]

Ok

Thx

[shy wagon]

Oh btw

What card should I select

@surreal totem

[surreal totem]

Oh

I usually go for steel skin and build up early game

And then when I transform I go all offensive with super snowball, Wicked warrior, giant slayer

^

[hoary canyon]

cards?

my fellow cell players

i dont get how to use the 3rd skill

[shy wagon]

Its heal

[hoary canyon]

i just read it

so

im supposed to use it when im getting jumped at low hp

[surreal totem]

That's how you recover more health

Lower HP = more regain

Being attacked while using also gives you more regen

[hoary canyon]

ok

then his ult

his first ult is the huge explosion right

[surreal totem]

Yes

[hoary canyon]

then if hes transformed

[surreal totem]

The barrier

[hoary canyon]

after the explosion

he can do the domain expansion

[surreal totem]

Barrier that locks you into a 1v1

Yes

[hoary canyon]

so the domain expansion happens after using the explosion right

[surreal totem]

They have to be inside of the explosion when it ends for the 1v1 to initiate

[hoary canyon]

it has no other condition than that

and how do i maximize his drain

[surreal totem]

You can't really maximize it

You just have to get them to about like 30%-40% health

[hoary canyon]

but when im killing creeps

[surreal totem]

It's only once per target

[hoary canyon]

do i need to press m1 again

or

[surreal totem]

Yes

[hoary canyon]

i cant just be holding it right

[surreal totem]

You can hold it

[hoary canyon]

oh

he will drain automatically

[hoary canyon]

whats cells skill priority

[sudden flower]

Snowball giant slayer and the one to catch people

[sudden flower]

When you’re 50% hp it’s the best way to use it

But you gotta read the room

[shy wagon]

Wicked warrior?

[sudden flower]

If you’re fighting against characters that do burst damage like trunks it’s best to not heal when at 50%

[sudden flower]

The namu one

[shy wagon]

Why?

[surreal totem]

Nam?

[unreal hawk]

Bro IV heal as much as a zamasu critical health heal

[sudden flower]

They’ll kill you before u heal

[sudden flower]

Yes

[shy wagon]

Pefect unit

[lapis shard]

After playing a few matches I am convinced snowball, steel skin and wicked warrior are his best cards

Yea snowball is risky as you lose defense but you get early transformations if you play it right, as early as level 5 soooooo idkkkk chat

[lapis shard]

Yea nvm it depends, tired of getting trash dps in my lanes tho who just leave me to die as I’m tryna build

[buoyant spade]

I KNOW RIGHT

Tryna get to player rank A before season ends so I can unlock Tao as a helper next season, and these mofos not making it easy

[sudden flower]

Dps can leave if you got your form at level 5

Super op

Especially if you got super start too in your game

And you can just get ur ult early on

You can 100% 2v1

But yeah then leaving

Eats my soul till its core

[lapis shard]

Yea yea its like lemme hit perfection first at least man, or near it. All these ssj3 gokus leave immediately 😭💔

[hoary canyon]

whats cells skill priority?

[buoyant spade]

I can only tell you what order I prefer to go in. Skill one and skill two first since up to level three is grinding. Skill 2 to rank 2 next, skill 3 at level 5, either skill 3 or 1 after that, and ult at level 7. If I chose to get skill one to rank two, I like to Max it out at level eight. From there I play it by ear

[urban hamlet]

Whats the fastest way to get bioenergy

[urban hamlet]

Why do you unlock ult so late?

[brittle hull]

He needs farm speed for bio energy and the recover for longer sustained fights, plus you don’t get the arena trap until transform anyway

Second level dash gives you better engage that you need and second level bomb is more damage and a more reliable slow catch

You’ll have max bomb and clutch by 10 anyway, with level 2 Ult and skill 3 at level 1 with passive heals from rushes is enough to sustain pretty much anything

[urban hamlet]

@brittle hull I am just not able to get bioenergy

Its like i am support in early game

Kaulifa and cool3r just shreds me early game

[brittle hull]

You get about 2% per npc mob you kill, there’s a bit of a dance you have to do with skirmishing the enemy heroes. You don’t really have the power to beat them entirely but you CAN fight them and just siphon off of combat until it starts looking dicey then retreat. Fight as much as you can near your tower when Zeno isn’t there, and don’t feel bad about needing to fall back and farm/heal. if you’ve been chipping the enemy down they’re not hard pushing your tower the first couple of Rotations

Also, remember that even not transformed, you get stronger as you gain energy; so the longer fights go, the stronger you are compared to them

Use Rildo as a get out of jail card and use your 3 to regain health at half if you’re not fighting burst enemies/75% or so if they’re burstier

[urban hamlet]

What about super start

I lose the most during super start

I take skill 1

[gray herald]

Super boost 1, double level s2, then double level s3, then ult, 7 is a skip and at 8 you can max 1 and 2 at the same time

That’s how I do it anyway

His play route stays the same I think

But remember you want to open with your bombs on farm or hit them to half so that your rush actually gives drain. If you kill with bomb before the health is low you miss on energy, and that’s where a lot of cell players mess up

[tidal condor]

His skill 3 is honestly underrated for his early game

I experimented with it a few times and never regretted it

[gray herald]

Skill 3 is super strong but it’s also strong at level 1

[tidal condor]

True

[gray herald]

Probably the best one point skill in the game outside of like kale s3

And it gets silly in late 🤣

[urban hamlet]

This is some good info

[urban hamlet]

Okay new problem now

How do I defend tower from cell

He does not have the skills to continuously stop them from putting balls in

May be i should stop using ult to snipe ssj3

[vale apex]

is that how it would be for super start?

s2 first?

[urban hamlet]

Dont try that you will lose the lane by dmg

[brittle hull]

For super you can do s1 first and then just put two points into s2 as you walk up, fair bit more damage potential without losing much range/followup

From there play the match as normal with a stronger poke/secure and that gets you transformed quicker if you are doing your loops right

Can afford to throw more points into recovery that match and become obnoxious

[vale apex]

Yea that sounds

Good

Imma go with that next time

Btw, how good is his regen

[brittle hull]

Even at one point it’s like a third of his hp on the s3 and the passive from brawling lets you outlast anyone who isn’t a realllllly good cooler or Dabura even without the s3

Don’t try to heal strong burst with it, have to start it before it hits if you’re going to and be pretty high health first. Same thing with 2v1s when they have supers: it’s better to break off and come back

Upgraded s3 you shouldn’t die unless you misplay or it’s the whole team

[solid radish]

whats the ability order for him and how do i use him effectively

[urban hamlet]

I have been feeling like cell is not very effective for team

High chance of losing a lane against cooler/caulifa because cell output is much lower at starting

So it costs your dmg some levels

Late game he is very little lane control

Cant protect tower since he does not have much aoe

In solo 1v1 he is very strong but for a team its a weak pick

He is a attacker in disguise of tank

[silent zephyr]

One tank mechanic so I agree

[urban hamlet]

He is dependant on so many things. I hate it.

And If you get paired against dabura then you just gotta change lane or give up getting perfect form early

[placid mountain]

What the best card for cell

[timber mesa]

what should be my lvl up order

Okay so

[scenic flame]

So

[timber mesa]

Wanted to talk here for no cool down

[scenic flame]

Personally I play with obtaining automatic techniques

[scenic flame]

Yeah, It's better like that

[scenic flame]

But I recommend you prioritize grab and ultimate attack

[sacred oxide]

Yeah, grab is good.

[scenic flame]

Second, you raise the energy ball and regeneration is to be done last.

[scenic flame]

It can change the fate of a fight

[sacred oxide]

Yeah, I just hate when people make bad calls like disengaging early.

[twilit blade]

i just bought cell

[sacred oxide]

There was a fight we were gonna win and my dps just backed off.

[twilit blade]

any tips

[scenic flame]

I take him at Level 31

[sacred oxide]

Like dude had full health and ran.

[scenic flame]

When Cell, A18 or Hit is free

[twilit blade]

I'm at 31 thats why

[scenic flame]

I'm 34 lmao

I have take Cell too

[timber mesa]

Hm, so uhh

[sacred oxide]

I'm 48.

[twilit blade]

any tips

[scenic flame]

What kind of Character are you ?

[timber mesa]

I need to know if theres a good way for landing the drain

[sacred oxide]

All 16 or my chars are rank 3.

Hit em from the back.

[scenic flame]

The drain HP kill animation ?

[timber mesa]

Nah like

[sacred oxide]

Skill 2?

[timber mesa]

No like when you do the click and it drains

[scenic flame]

Ahhh, The regeneration move

Yeah, That the kill drain animation I think 💀

It's only with Cell first form

[sacred oxide]

I'm on switch lol click is a foreign concept lol.

You all put me in a much better mood though.

[scenic flame]

I'm on PS4

[sacred oxide]

My wife is playing on ps4 until she gets home.

[scenic flame]

My drift stick is really annoying when I play

Sometimes I completely miss my attacks because my controller makes me attack in the opposite direction of the enemy 🥹

[sacred oxide]

Oof.

[scenic flame]

I want to jump at the window when it coming

[sacred oxide]

Have you tried using rubbing alcohol on a q-tip to work on stick drift?

[scenic flame]

Nah, I blow into it and sometimes it works

[timber mesa]

why's that?

[scenic flame]

After that, I've had my PS4 for 6 years. The poor guy has been through tons of stuff but he's still alive

[sacred oxide]

That losing streak i was on had me all sorts of mad.

I hate when I solo queue.

I have terrible luck with randos.

[scenic flame]

It's hard this

[timber mesa]

Notice how PS2 controllers never had drift

[timber mesa]

I solo queue all the time 😭

[scenic flame]

Idk, I admit that I have had a PS2 for 14 years now and I still play it now and it has 0 drift

[sacred oxide]

I mostly duo with my wife or trio with her and my nephew.

[timber mesa]

the american dream, to play dragon ball with the wifey

[scenic flame]

Playing with friends is better than playing alone, otherwise there is no direct communication

[sacred oxide]

Right!

Cell and baby are my tank mains.

[scenic flame]

That a dream yeah, A little less for the French given how bitter we are all the time..(Not me, I assure you)

[scenic flame]

I haven't played tank except with Zamasu while waiting to get Cell

I'm a DPS main principaly

[sacred oxide]

Zamasu was a fun character.

[scenic flame]

Yeah but Cell is more fun

[sacred oxide]

I enjoyed maining him when I did.

[timber mesa]

I main Piccolo and Frieza so far, I wanted to main Hit but his passive and S3 are so buggy so I decided to drop him.. which sucks because he's my favorite DB character

[scenic flame]

You are S3 ?

[timber mesa]

nono I mean his special 3

[scenic flame]

Ohhh, Okay mb

[timber mesa]

dw about it

[scenic flame]

Special 3 it's when he disapear ?

[sacred oxide]

My rank is explosive (c4).

[timber mesa]

yeah

[scenic flame]

I'm B3 in DPS

[sacred oxide]

Dang.

[scenic flame]

This move is too cheaty

[sacred oxide]

I'm d4 across the board.

[scenic flame]

After all I play Gammas..

[timber mesa]

sometimes he just wont go invisible or when I do moves it won't reduce their vision

[sacred oxide]

I love playing gammas.

[scenic flame]

They are so funs

[scenic flame]

Zamn

[sacred oxide]

True dat.

[sacred oxide]

Thats odd.

[scenic flame]

It's why I don't see Hit in this time

[timber mesa]

yeah I regretted it and I have to go all the way to level 100+ to get cell or 18 so I just made a new account

[scenic flame]

Maybe I can play do a game. Do you want to play with 3 people ?

I mean, You two and me

[timber mesa]

sure, but uh I'm not a vc person so I won't use my voice. If you're not okay with that it's fine

[scenic flame]

It's nothing don't worry

[sacred oxide]

We can later on, I got an appointment in a bit.

[scenic flame]

To tell the truth, I've never spoken to Americans in voice, so I'm a little afraid of not understanding 🥹

[scenic flame]

Yeah sure, I don't know when i can play again so..

What hour is it where you are in America ?

[sacred oxide]

Oh, I have what is called the perfect "customer service voice" I've never had a problem being understood.

[timber mesa]

4 AM but I'm on central time

[sacred oxide]

Oh it's about 12 till 6am.

[scenic flame]

In France it is almost noon

I can play mainly around 7:30-8:30pm in the evening. What time will it be for you ?

[sacred oxide]

That works for me.

[scenic flame]

Okay, And for you mortalman ?

[timber mesa]

you can just @ me when you're ready, I'll most likely be here

[scenic flame]

Okay

[sacred oxide]

Sounds good if you can't make it let me know i can get my wife on game.

[scenic flame]

My mom will be leaving soon so I can play a game or two

[scenic flame]

'kay !

Which role are you play ? @timber mesa

[timber mesa]

any is fine with me

Just tell me who you're planning to play

[scenic flame]

I'm gonna play Tank

So take DPS and we will go to the bottom way

[sacred oxide]

When I do play I can go any way.

I have mains for each role.

[scenic flame]

Okay

@timber mesa I can play

Just 1 game or 2

[sacred oxide]

How goes the games?

[sudden flower]

Just rush

Do ur 2 1 moves

And rish

And repeat

[scenic flame]

I'm playing alone right now, I'm losing because my mates don't care about the last god of destruction

[little hemlock]

Sometimes I noticed the bioenergy gain are spiking

what's the trigger of that circumstances?

[scenic flame]

I think it's when you got 3 green card

It's gave you a bonus

[thorny hound]

My personal skills and cards for cell are
2>1>3>Ult
Build Up
Giant Slayer
Wicked Warrior

He's pretty good when Perfect but I think a bit lil underpowered on Imp. I think just a slight buff on his hp can go a long way but nothing too crazy just 5% increase

[unreal hawk]

Are the vegetas I fight are bad or does cell just heal more then vegeta

[thorny hound]

Imp Cell barely regens
Perfect Cells heals more (I think)

[ivory glacier]

He’s a tank lmao you should do the blast and the heal I feel like make more sense

[thorny hound]

I just feel like the grab is more useful

[ivory glacier]

You’re taking his already bad early game and making it worse by leveling an ability that can’t help him clear or fight in lane

The blast then heal then ult then the grab

1>3>ult>2

Use the support that taunts and it’s free ults as well. Get a free 1v1 every time

[brittle hull]

The grab

Doesn’t help him fight

??????

He’s a melee unit and it’s a dash whether it grabs or not what are you-

[sudden flower]

Move 1 or 2 triggers bio energy gain

And also you drain a lot more on players rather than npcs

Also depends if you kill sosmeoje from the back

[surreal totem]

You gain 3% from NPCs

Idk the number for players

[sudden flower]

Doesn’t need to tank at all

[sudden flower]

Same but it’s a lot

[sudden flower]

Early game yeah he sucks

But if you push hard enough

You’ll get perfect

[surreal totem]

It's probably like 6 percent

Idk

[sudden flower]

And completely obliterate your lane

[surreal totem]

15

[sudden flower]

Nope

lol

[surreal totem]

10

9

[sudden flower]

More like 10-15 yeah

Idk I haven’t paid attention

[surreal totem]

Yeah

I can't go into customs and check either

[sudden flower]

Go training

[sudden flower]

free 1v1 that you won’t win because you’re a tank build 💔

Cell may be a tank but he in the wrong role

He’s more like a

Tech fused with dps the way he plays

But hey I’ll take tank lol

Great at 1v1s

[surreal totem]

Where is training mode at

💔

[sudden flower]

Brother

Double tap character you wanna train as

And somewhere in the bottom should be

A button

[surreal totem]

Why isn't it in match settings

[sudden flower]

Thag says it

[little hemlock]

The fact that Cell being so weak at early game is so lore accurate

[sudden flower]

A lot of characters are lore accurate

Piccolo especially

[little hemlock]

Wish Bandai buffs Cell's bioenergy from NPC though

[sudden flower]

Nuh uh

[little hemlock]

The current one too forces you into teamfights

[surreal totem]

It's 12%

[sudden flower]

Maybe from 2 to 4

[little hemlock]

4 good

[sudden flower]

No more

[surreal totem]

He gets 12% from players

[sudden flower]

Too cracked

[little hemlock]

At least not 2

Ffs

[sudden flower]

Yeah and either skill 1 or 2 applies drain

Check on that

Read the passive

[little hemlock]

S2

[sudden flower]

I mean you have to understand

We’d be talking

Level 3 perfect cell

[little hemlock]

S1 doesn't drain

[surreal totem]

5 percent from the finisher

[little hemlock]

[little hemlock]

Fair

[sudden flower]

A normal finisher or drain finisher

[little hemlock]

But lv4 - 5 people are still in resource crisis

[sudden flower]

Yeah and that’s when cell comes in

With level 7 stats

[surreal totem]

Drain finisher

[sudden flower]

I see

[surreal totem]

You don't get any percent for killing with skills

[sudden flower]

Fair

Usually after a fight I’m at around 40

[surreal totem]

Ok

So drain ranges from 12-13%

And drain finisher ranges from 4-5%

[sudden flower]

Check if there’s any difference when opponent is higher level than you or higher level generally @surreal totem

[surreal totem]

He was higher and I got 14 percent

[sudden flower]

I see

14 is good

You can do it a bunch of times

Every 3 rush right?

[little hemlock]

So just get the drain rush on opponent?

[sudden flower]

Have u not been doing that

[surreal totem]

Not every 3

[little hemlock]

Didn't pay attention

[sudden flower]

I keep forgetting

[surreal totem]

Once they get to a low enough health, you drain once

[surreal totem]

That's dabura

[sudden flower]

Whaaaat

No check passive

[little hemlock]

Below 50% wasn't it?

IIRC temp HP doesn't count

[surreal totem]

It's proccing on cooler at like 80%

[ivory glacier]

It’s not a dash lmfao it’s a grab. You can only grab the small cells that’s if you haven’t killed them. If you’re leveling that first you are trash. And it only grabs from behind

[ivory glacier]

I’m not a tank build why are you yapping. Only place I would tank card is first card if I’m behind in lane. I’m nearly S on this character you’re not teaching me anything

I’ve done 400k damage on this character he is simply a tank because he can eat a lot of damage. Doesn’t mean he can’t damage

[brittle hull]

Another channel with no image perms, but it’s a warp, which works regardless of front or back. So…it’s…a sure hit…dash

[ivory glacier]

Yes you can hit them and do a little damage but the value is from the stun which you only get ________

Here’s a hint

It’s from behind

[surreal totem]

Ok so

Cell is pretty cool

[brittle hull]

A value is from the stun. Another is from gap closing. Or did you forget he’s melee?

[ivory glacier]

Click game moments lmfao look at this

[surreal totem]

The stats for his transformation are

2% or 3% for NPCs
12% or 13% for Players
5% for drain finisher
14% or 15% for higher level players

[ivory glacier]

Are we talking about gap closing or survivability. So sure you close the gap early game and you’ve maxed your grab. Now what do you do lol?

[brittle hull]

Anyways, there’s literally nothing stopping you from grabbing one level in each by level 3 and while it’s a lower priority max, it’s still worth grabbing

[surreal totem]

These are his percentages for transforming

Hope I helped

[ivory glacier]

You can’t even fight back and you did 20 damage on a grab 😂😂😂🤣

[little hemlock]

2-3 from NPC

Increased to 3 on mid game iirc

[ivory glacier]

I’m talking about maxing abilities. So why would you max the grab over the other 2 lmfao

You kinda jumped in and didn’t understand the convo

I get what it does but he’s saying max it over the other 2 abilities. Which is bad

[brittle hull]

The regen heals for a third at level 1, so that’s why you don’t max that

You can’t access the ult max before 11 and on a longer cd, so that’s why you don’t max that

And the energy ball, while nice damage, doesn’t provide engage, and you are still a tank

So that’s why one could max s2 first. S1 is also fine

[ivory glacier]

You don’t lol I put two points into my blast first and then grab my dash level 4

Gives him the best chance of fighting early

[little hemlock]

S3 actually heals bigger than it looks

[surreal totem]

Who's the tankiest tank in terms of pure defense

[little hemlock]

You need to get hit while channeling

[ivory glacier]

Not level 1

[brittle hull]

Caulifla because her Dr stacks

[little hemlock]

Still good for early

[surreal totem]

Okay. I'm gonna test some Dabura stone spit damage

[little hemlock]

I usually up my S3 after grab

[ivory glacier]

Your best chance boxing in lane early as cell is two points in blast and one on the dash then get the heal

[brittle hull]

S3 is a nice one to level when you can, but it does the lions share of its work from one point

[ivory glacier]

Good players are gonna just run at you early game cell and if you grab someone you’re dead

Unless you’re in E or D

[little hemlock]

If you get super start, would you take S3 over S1?

[brittle hull]

You can pretty safely wait for ult until 6, so for non s1 boost super start games ball - grab - heal - grab works

For super games your base health is still too low to start s3 imo

Since you can’t get drain credit by confirming with ball unless you’re meleeing to half when it comes to farm I don’t put too much into it too fast

Super starts favor s1 just so you can win exchanges

[ivory glacier]

No you would take the blast this guy is trying to justify taking the 2 first he’s literally just yapping

There’s no world where you max a grab on a bad early game character 😂😂

[sudden flower]

And I’ve done 545k your point?

[ivory glacier]

He doesn’t even have potential to kill unless they throw

[sudden flower]

Real goofy brag

[ivory glacier]

Once again yapping. You said I build him as tank

How could I build tank and do 400k

[sudden flower]

Ight my bad

[brittle hull]

I’ve gathered he’s good at typing fast and being wrong too quickly to correct meaningfully

Ah, slowed down for a second

[ivory glacier]

I feel maybe you’re not use to people who know how to think critically

Seeing you max the grab and all

[brittle hull]

Had to remember critically I see

[sudden flower]

What going on

[brittle hull]

Nothing important 🤣

[sudden flower]

LOL

Biggest mistake ever

[ivory glacier]

“Hey guys this character is awful til he transforms. But maybe if I max his grab I can win lane”

[sudden flower]

S1 or s2

[sudden flower]

You don’t gotta win lane

You gotta drain

[surreal totem]

S1 for weakening npcs for drain

[sudden flower]

So you transform

And win lane

They can’t run from you

If your dps ain’t dog

[ivory glacier]

You dash in early game cell you’re dead

I literally only play this character

[sudden flower]

Maybe 1 2 deaths no biggie

[little hemlock]

I mostly pick tank cards as Cell

[sudden flower]

As long as u get form before everyone else

[little hemlock]

I lack balls for DPS because I kept dying as imperfect

[ivory glacier]

But that 2 deaths can lose you a super cell, can lose you farm against good players etc

[little hemlock]

[brittle hull]

Tank cell is more consistent, especially since you can swap cards once you get established

[sudden flower]

You respawn in 5 seconds

[ivory glacier]

You don’t want to be dying 2 times to kamikaze for drain lmfao

[sudden flower]

Ain’t thag big

[little hemlock]

On 3rd I tried picking Wicked Warrior but, I felt more comfortable with limit break jump

[sudden flower]

Notice how I said once or twice but u stuck to twice to strengthen your point

[brittle hull]

LBJ is offense and defense

[sudden flower]

Namu card

To chase them down

[sudden flower]

Cooler

[ivory glacier]

You don’t have to die at all if you’re smart

[little hemlock]

The second red?

[sudden flower]

Yeah I mean if you’re getting ganged you’re gonna die either way now aren’t you

2v1

[ivory glacier]

There is no character design where they want you to go in and kamikaze for a mechanic lol that’s just you not understanding mobas 😂😂

[sudden flower]

Which it happens 70% of the time

[little hemlock]

You opponent rarely able to run from mid game cell so I didn't consider picking that before

[sudden flower]

I ain’t play any other mobas

Thankfully I got a life

[little hemlock]

Unless they have movement skills

[sudden flower]

This is why I do it

[ivory glacier]

We are getting ganged because we maxed our dash 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[brittle hull]

MOBAs with stacking items that reward trading low level exp for stacks:

[sudden flower]

Any Gokus in the match or Gohans you can catch them

[sudden flower]

You’re level 4 dawg relax

Ain’t maxing nothing yet

[ivory glacier]

But you’re in a much better position with two points in blast and one on the grab

[brittle hull]

If you max s2 first you still have level 2 ball by character level 3

[ivory glacier]

Then dying for a little drain lol

[brittle hull]

On a super start

[ivory glacier]

Just go straight two points into the blast

Or you super start the blast

It’s not rocket science

[brittle hull]

On a non super you start ball and then get grab

[sudden flower]

You was talking about sum s3 super start where this come from

😂

[brittle hull]

But it’s taste on super

[brittle hull]

He’s convinced you were

[ivory glacier]

I didn’t say that

The other person said that

[brittle hull]

You did to me mr “you jumped in not knowing”

Don’t try to change the narrative

[ivory glacier]

I said max the blast then the heal

I never said max skill 3 lol

And it would still make more sense over the dash if you’re pure tank getting green cards 😂😂😂

[brittle hull]

Neither did we 🤣 one person asked that way later

But 2 > 3

[ivory glacier]

Yea so what are you talking about 🤣🤣🤣

[sudden flower]

Why u arguing then

???

[ivory glacier]

Skill 1 should be maxed first that’s the point

[brittle hull]

The fact that maxing 2 isn’t a throw offended him

[sudden flower]

Sitthis one out unc @ivory glacier

[brittle hull]

Level 2 ball is good enough and max grab does a lot for engages

[ivory glacier]

It’s not a throw in lower lobbies sure

That probably works down in d or e

[brittle hull]

You still have to drain and skill 1 does nothing for that

[ivory glacier]

Go into A b+ lobby thinking that 😂😂

[brittle hull]

It’s been working fine in A, don’t know what to tell you

Stay free I guess

[ivory glacier]

You play poke and you farm the jungle and take smart fights for drain early

[sudden flower]

Maxing out s2 helps be more aggressive

[ivory glacier]

You can play smart and still transform by 3 minutes

Instead of going in and dying

[sudden flower]

Thus more drain thus more control

[ivory glacier]

“1 or 2 times”

[brittle hull]

You don’t automatically die with level 3 grab unless you’re silly

You still play smart and poke

[sudden flower]

What this guy saying bro

[brittle hull]

No idea

[sudden flower]

Mad confusing mad weird too

[ivory glacier]

So you grab, they realize you’re cell, they jump on you and now you get one dash out

[sudden flower]

So pressed from nothing

[ivory glacier]

0 thoughts up there

[sudden flower]

If you’re grabbing them that means they’re running though

[brittle hull]

You keep drawing up this silly scenario where you have to play stupid because you grab skill two

You just get more range bro

[sudden flower]

Because you’re not that dumb to initiate a fight base form cell

Especially against another tank or something

[ivory glacier]

We got two dummies probably in d or E arguing about maxing the wrong ability

My lord

[sudden flower]

I ain’t say that

[brittle hull]

Literally said I’m in A

[sudden flower]

You fighting ghosts

Grow up toddler

[brittle hull]

His demons

Sad

[ivory glacier]

Show me an A lobby where you play like that

Go ahead go play an A lobby and use your 2

I would love to see this

Stream it in a Channel

[sudden flower]

Oh my god damn

[brittle hull]

I can record a game and link you in it if you’re that pressed, I’ve been playing that way for a few days now with no problems

[sudden flower]

How pathetic lol

Kind of behavior is this

[ivory glacier]

Bros first argument

Kinda nervous

[sudden flower]

You’re nervous?

[ivory glacier]

An idiot

But yea let me see thatv

[sudden flower]

You’re an idiot?

[ivory glacier]

Go in your first game rn and record it

[sudden flower]

Poor guy

[ivory glacier]

Max the 2 first

[brittle hull]

Now, if you’ve played this game before, you know what I’m about to say

[ivory glacier]

It just screenshot the results in the game moments channel

[brittle hull]

I don’t get to pick what my random perks are going to be

I’m actually concerned, are you OK?

[ivory glacier]

YOUR RANDOM PERKS LOL?????

[brittle hull]

You don’t get super start every game

[sudden flower]

Ohhh divine draw

[brittle hull]

Should I get you some help?

[ivory glacier]

So now it’s depending on super start 😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣

When whole time I’m saying max the 2

Is bad

Now you’re saying it’s good. Only if you get super start

[sudden flower]

Maxing 2 got me like 5 10+ kill games in a row

[ivory glacier]

Ok I’m done

[little hemlock]

Or we can stop the whole fighting?

[sudden flower]

Mid B rank

[sudden flower]

Dude is fighting ghosts lol

[brittle hull]

You still max s2 first, but you explicitly brought up super start. I’d show you screenshots of what you said but image perms

[ivory glacier]

Whole time I’ve said get two points in the Blast etc. he’s talking like he maxes the grab every game

[brittle hull]

I do though?

[ivory glacier]

You don’t get super start every game

So without super start you’re still maxing the 2??

[brittle hull]

Max prio is s2 > s1 > s3

[sudden flower]

It don’t even matter if you max out 1 or 2 mid game

They’re legit on the same level either way

The game forces u

[ivory glacier]

Ok go ahead and play one plz just screenshot it

[sudden flower]

Why bring up all of this

Genuine issues

[ivory glacier]

Bros never been in a debate lol

Fragile

[sudden flower]

??

lol

Debate?

Brother you’re having a meltdown

Real time

You gotta relax if you wanna call this a debate

[ivory glacier]

He saying something he believes is right and I’m saying another thing I believe is right. He’s telling me why he thinks one way is good. I’m saying another way.

Which is a debate

[sudden flower]

You’re too high on your horses

[ivory glacier]

You are just dumb

[sudden flower]

lol

[surreal totem]

Debating over Cell's kit in a dbz moba might be insanity

[sudden flower]

Wtv you say big man

[ivory glacier]

“Discussing a character on a character discussion post in a video game discord”

Are yall like 12

Genuine question

[sudden flower]

lol

Okay bro

Go back to grinding we need people like you to play the game

[ivory glacier]

Is this not a character discussion post

I’m lost

[surreal totem]

If you're going to insult people, I don't think you should debate period

[ivory glacier]

“If you hurt my feelings plz stay away”

😂🤣🤣

[surreal totem]

Not what I said at all

[sudden flower]

lol

Imagine acting like this

[surreal totem]

You should be able to speak without being a jerk

You can get your points across without insults

[sudden flower]

Something he’d not do in any situation irl

Like we get it you wanna be tough n all

[ivory glacier]

Called one person a dummy yea my tough guy act is calling people dummies online

Yup that’s it

[sudden flower]

It’s not just ONE thing you did

Your tone

Your sarcasm

[ivory glacier]

My tone through text

[sudden flower]

Just stupid behavior

Like why not just chill

[ivory glacier]

My sarcasm through text

[sudden flower]

It’s a game

Ain’t that deep

[ivory glacier]

So why did you jump into a discussion beteeen two people who were talking about something

If it isn’t that deep lol

It was a 2 person discussion

He thinks he’s right and i think im right. Which is how discussions go 🤣

[little hemlock]

I remembered the last time I win by max S2 was because my DPS was competent

[ivory glacier]

Only way

[little hemlock]

He gave them fear so enemy turn their backs more often

It's yemv thingy, so idt it should turn into argument

teaming up with good ppl and bad ppl leads to different perspective most of the time

[scenic flame]

The thing with Cell It's that you can transform at level 6 as you can transform at level 8 or 9 🥀

[little hemlock]

If your enemy is dumb you can do it at 6

[sudden flower]

You replied to my message

It’s a group lol

Not 2 people chat

[sudden flower]

U ain’t solo lane early game with cell

[scenic flame]

It's my teammate who is dumb the most part of time 🥹

[ivory glacier]

This is the first message we interacted and it’s you randomly replying to me lmfao bro what are yall memories

[sudden flower]

Still

Group chat

[ivory glacier]

Exactly so you said it ain’t that serious and jumped into the conversation 😐

[sudden flower]

Yeah

[ivory glacier]

So if that’s your level of enthusiasm and it isn’t that serious. Why did you reply 😐

[sudden flower]

Jumped in casually

[ivory glacier]

I give up

[sudden flower]

Group chat

Use your peanut brain

[ivory glacier]

So then you cry after

[sudden flower]

Damn son

[ivory glacier]

That it isn’t that deep

After you “casually” jump into a debate

[sudden flower]

You over here melting dawg

Reflect

[ivory glacier]

And debates aren’t usually causal

Does our brain work am I the only one 🤣🤣

[sudden flower]

If they aren’t for you then you’re the problem

[ivory glacier]

A debate is usually in exchange- you know what yea

You right man 😂😂😂

[sudden flower]

Thanks takes a lot of guts to admit mistakes

“No sarcasm in my tone”

[ivory glacier]

Fs

[sudden flower]

lol

[scenic flame]

Hum..Can we talk at New about Cell in the game ? It's the goal of this forum

[ivory glacier]

Go quote a reply where I said that

[sudden flower]

Ain’t bothered enough

[ivory glacier]

Exactly lol wasn’t even what was said 🤣

My god

[sudden flower]

Ok big bro

Take a chill pill

[ivory glacier]

When low iq meets high IQ

[sudden flower]

High IQ acting like this

We’d all be doomed

Have a place ran by arrogant preteens

💔

[unique hare]

Whats a good level up path???

[little hemlock]

As in cards or the NPC killing order?

[unique hare]

The- the.... the... skills????

[spare sentinel]

The hell happened here?

[little hemlock]

1>2/3>1>Ult>1>3>situational

On lv. 3, If enemy being aggressive at you at Kaioh contest, it's better to take 3 early

[surreal totem]

Death

😨

[little hemlock]

The usual moba slop

[shadow lark]

is cell bad

[sour wolf]

He is not bad actually , He has the best Damage for "TANK" units so far , He is less tanky then Cooler , vegeta

and tbh Cell is my fav tank and overall villian from db

[shadow lark]

im getting steamrolled by cooler every game

[sour wolf]

yea cooler is pretty tought to counter because he is real tank , on the other hand , Cell has better damage but less tanky

[sour wolf]

also you have to face this in the early game untill cell completes his PERFECT form

after that Cooler and Cell are quite equal matchups

[shadow lark]

ive been getting golden cell jrs alot so its probably because of that

cooler stronger early

he just snowballs

also my dps is incompetent

[sour wolf]

But in early games if Bojack , SSJ3 is with you , You can win the early game

Whenever I use cell and my damage partner is Dabura or Bojack , I usually counter cooler easily

They need to buff Cell

Like the Super Perfect Form

From the Anime

When he returned to earth after surviving self destruction

[sour wolf]

I belive if current perfect cell is either buffed or a new unit for SUPER PERFECT CELL arrives , He will be the meta for a long period of time

[sterile bough]

He is kinda bad for early game

For some reason they made him with a very low max hp so he can struggle against other tanks

Your dps basically has to baby sit you

Until you transform

[thorny hound]

I need to pray me and my dps jumping the same enemy

[elfin hare]

Ngl you might need both DPS jumping because that early stages of cell are rough to say the least

[little hemlock]

So far Cell's biggest challenge is you have to trade blows with opponents in early game alive even with imperfect form

You can transform much earlier depend on how long you spend on teamfights

[urban hamlet]

Thats really bad

You are literally forcing enemy to never showing there back to you with your 2nd skill

Its a good skill

[static shell]

Does Cell absorb an NPC or opponent just by holding the attack button, or do I have to release the attack button and press it again?

[scenic flame]

You can hold the button

That work too

And it's what I do btw

[plucky comet]

Noone,

Cell : God B4stard

I laughed so much when he said that 🤣

[scenic flame]

"Asta la vistaaaa"

I forgot what he says when he knocks out with a teammate

[forest sun]

This cell

Is insane

You play like a mad man

And you get the best results ever

[scenic flame]

Fr

[bitter helm]

so what cards and skill order do we think is best?

i've been going full tank with skill 1, 3, 1, 4, 2

though sometimes i swap 3 and 2 around

depends on the opponent

im wondering if power levelling regen might be better

[little hemlock]

You want level up Regen on mid-late depend on how much your enemy like to target you

Idt I'm doing any different than you except I take grab at lv.4

[bitter helm]

after a couple games i feel like regen is not as good as i thought lol

[little hemlock]

Better at securing kills

[bitter helm]

i think i might take grab before regen tbh

[little hemlock]

You're supposed to use it like Abbadon's Borrowed Time

[bitter helm]

im finding im using it more than regen

the best time i've found to use regen is when i get a big ol spirit bomb dropped on me

[little hemlock]

If your enemies are pussies, grab is better

[bitter helm]

i mean my tank is currently in d-rank so yes

[little hemlock]

But on high levels, your enemy will just gonna straight coming at you to prevent you transforming

And that's horrifying

[bitter helm]

i think regen is worth ignoring if your lane opponent is dabura tho

does level 3 regen get rid of dabura's petrification?

[little hemlock]

It doesn't reset his petrification progress

[bitter helm]

ok then yea probably not worth taking

unless their lane partner is high dps

[little hemlock]

I'd still take it even I'm dealing with Dabura imho

Think of it like this

The more they hit you, the longer your DPS can focus on enemy DPS

ASSUMING 👈

your lane mate aren't dumb, ofc

Also I find it better having Cell fistfight anyone than long range poking as him

[shrewd shore]

Probably a dumb question

But

Wouldn't it make more sense to not transform as cell

Or is the spike just that much better

[sudden flower]

No bro

Transform asap

[shrewd shore]

Anither question.

For draining

The thing says for cell. When within a set period of time being obstructed the rush attack becomes drain. Mobement speed down and staggered both count as obstructions in the game so how come i camt
Raid smash drain into bug bang crash drain.

I cant just stack obsturctions to drain? I gotta wait a set period of time before hand?

[little hemlock]

No one hold transformation in high ranks?

First time hearing that when I saw B and A in Asia holding it for longer fights

They were mostly tanks with transform, though

[sudden flower]

If you don’t transform with your transforming character

I mean

You can do it

So you can heal and wtv

But it’s not worth it

Especially with cell

He just sucks

He is the worst character in the game

Before transforming

Actually top 3 worst

1. Buu
2. Bojack
3. Base form cell

[little hemlock]

Buu can transform?

🤨

And wym not worth it

[sudden flower]

No

I meant top 3 worst characters overall

[sudden flower]

Cells only weakness is

Base form

Why would you continue to play in base form

If you got perfect form available

[little hemlock]

Giving your opponent mental damage?

[sudden flower]

It’s like playing football and refusing to fix your broken leg

[sudden flower]

No?

Giving your allies mental damage

Now that I can confirm

Just transform

Maybe if you see that you’re gonna fight soon

Hold onto it for free heal

But don’t do it generally

Just transform

[little hemlock]

Not if you win

[sudden flower]

It won’t be thanks to you I can assure you that

Base form cell actually just does nothing

[little hemlock]

Nah, I did

Once, though

But it's funny when it happened

[bitter helm]

why would you want to stay in base form when his other form is perfect

[little hemlock]

I usually just transform if I'm going to die

Unless I'm DPS

[bitter helm]

i also usually do but i think with cell you should transform asap

cos the stat boost is vital

[little hemlock]

I like baiting people wasting their arsenal

[bitter helm]

i think its fine for most other characters to save transform

[little hemlock]

I don't do it in front of Gohan or Cell though

I learned the hard way

There's one match I didn't transform because they didn't even made me bleed to death or hunt me

Even after 4 GoD destroyed

My only complain about Cell is I just noticed his transformation frames are longer than others

You can just die to burst if you don't do it early

[sudden flower]

That’s not how it works with cell

[sudden flower]

Okay

Imagine this

You’re level 5

You got your perfect form

Why not use it

And you’re baiting everyone

For like 3 minutes

Cuz you’re so shrewd

Ahead

[little hemlock]

Yea I have been doing that after I get used with how Cell works

I'm aware it's definitely wrong method playing him after reading how knowing how fragile he is but

I just find it fun

Also for personal practice on close combat

I don't believe the whole crap about Cell's fate are determined on his first 3-4 minutes

I want to put myself in situation if my transformation gets halted to above lv. 6 because my opponents are good when opportunity arise

[charred acorn]

I do feel like iron skin compliments cell a lot more tbh

[sour wolf]

i use it in super start too

[thorny hound]

LMAOOOO

Anyway

I find it better to not get Ult

Because like

Cell's Ultimate is pretty underwhelming from my viewpoint

[boreal crane]

Idk

Cell sucks tbh

Coz like this game is snowball and early game cell is bad then hard to catch up

Imo they should do drain 5% or skills do drain

[charred acorn]

That may be true but I’m going to keep playing cell on the grounds that I want to

Also he’s my favorite db villain next to frieza

Imperfect cell does need a health buff

Not being able to front line with a tank early game feels awful

[boreal crane]

Thats why he is bad

Coz you need to be babysiting by your temate and in solo they are well xd

Cooler, califa, vegeta and zamatsu can tank

[charred acorn]

Yep

[boreal crane]

Zamatsu fell off in late game rest can be good

Okey vageta also aint best in late game but cooler is always mence and caluifa provoke mechanic can screw over them too

Only worse tank that cell is baby mostly coz you need too be close with temate...

[urban hamlet]

Baby has insane skill 1 and 2 though

He cant fight solo though but his abilities make up for his lack of duals

[boreal crane]

1 is good ok but 2 idk

[urban hamlet]

You can literally prevent enemies from running away in fight while also doing aoe dmg

[charred acorn]

Just realized my favorite/only 2 tanks I play are the worst ones in the game

*insert buu saga goku sitting meme here

[scenic flame]

Alternate between the two, regen can save you from a bad situation and grab can get you a kill or an assist to block the enemy while the DPS attacks

[boreal crane]

Try cooler xd

You will see diffrence ^^

[charred acorn]

No like I have no problem playing cell and baby I’m just saying it’s funny that the only tanks I play are arguably the worst ones

I do want to play cooler tho cause I like the character

[boreal crane]

Hey characters can be not best but if you know what to fo and have ok team you still can win

[charred acorn]

Yeppers

[tired panther]

LMAO

WHY DOES THIS HAVE ALMOST 2K MESSAGES

[halcyon skiff]

popping cells ult if ur not perfect just gets you killed a lot of the time

u gotta stand still for like 5 seconds while doing neglegable damage

[shy vortex]

Cell is stupid

Also idk why it replied to that message I was just tryna send it

[lapis shard]

Cell is just outshined by the better tanks, not necessarily bad, but compared to the other tanks that are better than him(caulifa, vegeta, booler) then yea he kinda sucks

[surreal totem]

He feels like a 3rd DPS

Who can self heal

[sour wolf]

Yeah, they made him a little less tanky. In Vegeta, Caulifla, andand Coole,r, but they increased his damage. I have used all 3 but cell gives me the most MVP

[boreal crane]

Cell can win but start from backfoot ^^

Will play him some games when i unlock new pass skin

[sudden flower]

Only cooler is better than him

Caulifla you can make a case

Unless you mean he’s bad for the role

[lapis shard]

In the role specifically imo, vegeta caulifa are better

[lapis shard]

Idk maybe just a diff the higher I climb the more I struggle with cell so ehhhhh

[lapis shard]

Or maybe characters listed are just more consistent lets put it that way

[sudden flower]

No I see this yeah

They do tank better

But cell is much stronger overall

[sudden flower]

I agree

They are

With cell y always worry

To get your form early

[lapis shard]

Now I just been conflicted with his skill order, majority of times I’m maxing out s1 first then s2 to level 2 max out ult then max s2 but when I leave regen alone I feel like I don’t gain health back at all, so I been experimenting and I can’t decide a skill order anymore 💀

Other times it’s basic s1 s2 ult near lvl7 then whatever, sometimes I’ll max regen out first then I have no damage
Cards snowball works if you and your partner could cook in lane, otherwise it’s either too easy/build up
Steel skin
Wicked warrior
Or instead of steel skin I’ll take prepare to die

[sudden flower]

It’s always the first two and ult

But I max out 2

Cuz it’s so good

[sudden flower]

Cards I always go snowball giant slayer and either of the two last ones

Namu or spopovich

[sour wolf]

Yea After cooler he is the best tank

And in terms of best damage among tanks, Cell is best

[sudden flower]

Yes

[sour wolf]

If u have a DPS player who is coordinating well with you, you can just rule the bottom lane coz the enemy can't run away from Cell due to his grab skill

[lapis shard]

Full red? Interesting

[hybrid prawn]

Hes so perfect we dont even need to talk about what cards or what ability to max

[sudden flower]

Ability 1 2 4

Cards snowball giant slayer and rush damage boost

Or

Roshi steel skin and any of the last ones in tank

[hybrid prawn]

We dont need to talk about it

Cause hes perfect

[bitter helm]

check out my ideal skills and cards, its perfect!

[boreal crane]

You

Go snowball, barrier and extra vanish?

Red, green and blue combo

[bitter helm]

i usually go full green but i probably shouldn't

snowball barrier and extra vanish sounds good

i would change 1 and 2 depending on the circumstances tho

like, barrier is not very useful if they aren't an energy dps

[boreal crane]

@bitter helm i got mvp with that bulid in my last cell game

[boreal crane]

Its very good in late game in group fights coz they spam skills and you can igone that

[bitter helm]

yea

i would change snowball to something else depending on how good your teammates are

cos if you're just getting shredded constantly theres no point

[boreal crane]

@bitter helm yes its like

All depends on game state

But if you wining snowball is nice

[bitter helm]

extra vanish is an iffy one, its always useful but its also not always impactful

whilst other options can change the match entirely

[boreal crane]

Can be 2nd red card with extra vanish good

[boreal crane]

I will say its never best cards it depends on your game style for me those works extra vanish is good plus less cooldown on skills try those if dont work you can swap🤷‍♀️

[copper vine]

Good cards for cell?

[lapis shard]

Snowball giant slayer then a defensive or another red card been working for me

[copper vine]

Thanks will try this out

[thorny hound]

I use
Build Up
Giant Slayer
Wicked Warrior

Build up is to help Imp Cell get more Bio Energy and escape

[sour wolf]

All red perfect cell can counter best Tanks like cooler

[copper vine]

That sounds op

[earnest oak]

Personally I have been running snowball or build up as the first card, steel skin or barrier for second and pretty much always wicked warrior third.

snowball and build up are match dependent

[boreal crane]

Skin bad

We think it works on every atack but every other after 1st you take more damage...

Also i would suggest as 3rd blue extra vanish 🤷‍♀️ its alwasy good

[sudden flower]

They really need to buff the healing on this stupid character

It’s so bad

Just a useless skill

It does nothing

You take damage as you would normally

And then you get like 15% more

It’s so bad

Why does vegetas instantly heal you

Why does special beam cannon have reduced damage when you’re charging it up

so stupid

Cooler has immunity

Caulifla has reduced damage when she provokes people

Baby heals allies and himself by a lot

Zamasu is just zamasu he sucks