Balancing Time

[plush ingot]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2026/03/balancing-time/

[jovial plover]

[unreal cove]

Oh hey nasko you escaped the basement

Also good stuff

[jovial plover]

so exciting i cant wait!!

[subtle burrow]

ohhhhh fancy!

[hard harbor]

The save breaking thing is an April Fools joke, right? Right?

https://tenor.com/view/padme-gif-24474700

[distant pelican]

i'd be amazed if it was lol

but if it's large enough, like they make it seem, I can see it breaking a lot of things in old worlds.

[unreal cove]

Yall gotta learn

[subtle burrow]

should be expected at this point tbh

[unreal cove]

Its unstable shits gonna break

[subtle burrow]

dang some interesting changes for sure

[naive idol]

It sounds amazing

[dense canopy]

Hey @plush ingot and @formal lodge - you may or may not know the answer to this question, but just in terms of preparing our multiplayer community for a fresh wipe this week because of 42.16;

While saves aren't compatible, is it expected that all mods that work in 42.15 should continue to work under 42.16, or does this update break mods in a significant way?

[subtle burrow]

makes me think it will be incompatible because any change in workflow will need to change the way the mods are laid out

[trim dagger]

Expect mods to break with every patch even in stable

[subtle burrow]

💯 ☝️

[modest galleon]

Any idea if all nearby zombies disappearing on quit-to-desktop will be patched?
Or the silent sprinters that were supposedly fixed in 42.12 or 42.13 but definitely still exist?

[humble ember]

are u gonna re-add the possibility to wash the character from the metal or wooden buckets?

[marsh crow]

did they finally add orange-colored raccoons?

[trim dagger]

Theres no patchnotes yet guys

just a warning that the next patch will break your save, so change to outdatedunstable now

[subtle burrow]

it's a mondoid 🥹

[jovial plover]

[dense canopy]

Tuesdoid here in Australia

[subtle burrow]

throw back to the old days ❤️

[jovial plover]

awh lol

[distant pelican]

not sure if this is a big deal but i tested the outdatedunstable, its on 42.15.2 and not 42.15.3.

[dense canopy]

Yeah and as a general rule of thumb we do. But you know how it is; there's "mods might break" and there's "mods will break". Two different situations. Was hoping to get some insight into which one this patch is more likely to be 😄

[subtle burrow]

3 was a security update, likely rolled it into .2 with the other when they re-released it

[trim dagger]

I've passed that on

[jovial plover]

i dont think i have seen mods not break on any patch lol

hopefully i said that right, tha thurt my head

[dense canopy]

most mods were fine between 42.13, 42.14 and 42.15

[marsh crow]

interesting that zeds banging on fences will no longer cause stress maybe 5+ zeds banging on fences should cause stress

[grand fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/reactions-gif-12900002073893207744

[random spindle]

No discomfort for vets is quite a change!

A lot of these changes seem good

[main nest]

sigma rizz ohio gyatt

[jovial plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-frown-angry-upset-mad-gif-18317499875825761658

lol what the hell does that mean

[silk galleon]

Excellent blog title!

[rain harness]

[silent crow]

Lol

[shy tiger]

1 April?

[silent crow]

Good ol drinking time
Can of water my beloveds

[potent stream]

I like the idea of occupations getting some work done. Too big a spread between the top picks and the real duds.

[main nest]

PLEASE JUST MAKE DESENSITIZED EARNABLE

PLEASE INDIE STONE

[analog siren]

lessss gooooooo

[cinder rapids]

i love zomboid

what does big pass mean in the controller part

[trim dagger]

It means going over everything

[cinder rapids]

ok awesome ty

[hidden sierra]

Would be cool ngl. Like, occupations having unique traits from the start that can be earned by the others isn't a new thing in the game

[light onyx]

Balance this nuke-

Sorry, I just needed to say something to get this channel on my list

[tepid arrow]

"remember to keep your bandages clean" feels like a hint at something too. It's very specific for a sendoff

[light onyx]

One day they'll make infections do something other than SOME ticks of damage with a sandbox setting...

[agile surge]

With nigh owl, they just know they always working the night shift

they forgot to add desensitized

[finite gazelle]

Will this include being able to put cheese in omelets?

[light onyx]

It's about balancing, so probably not unfortunately. No cooking recipe expansion any time soon I'd think

Mods are great for adding onto vanilla things, so more recipes? Someone out there has definitely made a mod for a bunch

[dense canopy]

The absolute biggest balancing change necessary. It's honestly so game-breaking that I'm shocked that TIS devs have not patched it to-date;

Stacking a Pizza with the same ingredients should NOT lead to significant unhappiness!!!

I want as much ham on my pizza as I can get! Fix it devs! FIX ITTTTT

Example here: https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1s7nu6m/three_months_into_the_save_i_miraculously/

Obviously this is SERIOUS and game-breaking and I'm genuinely shocked mainstream media hasn't picked up on this egregious oversight.

[light onyx]

Wait, but the grease might actually be too much at some point if you start shoveling it down lol

[dense canopy]

There's no such thing as "too much".

[finite gazelle]

Then God is dead.

[oak lantern]

Won't they add any more guns?

[marsh crow]

cheese in omelets would be great, but they really need to bring Hot/Cold Cuppa back! That would really balance out the American/British influence on the game

[marsh crow]

hopefully water guns and potato guns

[oak lantern]

at least those lol

[stuck lantern]

Pumpkin cannon!!!!! And a corn maze!!!

[dense canopy]

what day do we reckon we get the patch, if they're teasing it in a monday blog post?

Thursday?

That doesn't give them much time to drop a hotfix before easter IF there's anything game-breaking in the patch

[light onyx]

5

[daring pewter]

any unstable update will break saves, that has been well etablished and warned since pretty much the beginning of b42 unstable

its a test build, not a long-term play build

[daring pewter]

do remember, they are a UK studio, with people all over the world, last i checked, eastern is in fact not all over the world, but even in most "christian" european countries, its usually just 3 days (friday, + monday and tuesday) of free time before you gotta go back working

so a easter week patch could be happening, sully getting a week off could just be him using vaccation time, before he gets bonked by HR again

[marsh crow]

it's obvious this is an elaborate pre-April-Fools joke. On Wednesday, they're gonna release a separate blog post stating we won't get a new patch until the community submits 42 million drawings of Spiffo that will each be uploaded as server icons for 1 minute. That or they'll dress up all zeds with a full Spiffo costume

and if the Spiffo head comes off, that particular zombie turns into a sprinter

[jovial plover]

ms paint only

[light onyx]

Wow it it is april fools on Wednesday... smh TIS

[topaz compass]

@unreal cove

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

Good post, love seeing TIS give more communiques.

I read one of the comments and they mentioned the possibility of adding a couple more starting towns similar to the ones we already have, say, Irvington, Brandenburg or Ekron. They brought up a good point regarding MP spawns feeling cramped (everyone has to spawn in the same place). Are there any plans for the future for those places to be added?

At least Irvington and Ekron would be rough equivalents to Rosewood / Muldraugh and good starting points, imo. I don't know about Brandenburg (Riverside / Westpoint).

[spare iron]

I'd really like it if we could get some sort of documentation on the changes to gun attachments. That's gonna be a pain in the ass for gun mods.

Also still waiting on a modding feature to get the locations of items placed in the world so that we can replace the guns on the wall in Stendos.

[brave solar]

i don’t think removing echo creek spawn was necessary

yeah it’s a chill area but it has less loot and is less rewarding to be in

it having less loot makes it more balanced alone

[dense canopy]

YES
Please make all of the 'named' towns (other than LV) default spawn locations on multiplayer servers so the starting towns don't get overcrowded and trashed;

• Rosewood
• Riverside
• Westpoint
• Muldraugh
• Valley Station
• Fallas Lake
• Brandenburg
• Irvington
• Ekron
• Echo Creek
• March Ridge

There's still time to implement this simple quality of life MP-specific change for 42.16 @plush ingot Be there hero we need ❤️

[daring pewter]

I mean... that's a really simple map mod you can do yourself easily

i dont see why this would need to be in the base game

the hardest part would be grabbing coordinates for the different spawn points, but you can geniunely just do that with the help of b42map

[dense canopy]

If it's so simple, no reason not to be in the base game 🙂

Massively improve the QOL for all MP communities

win-win!

[daring pewter]

I'm pretty sure they still design the game mostly with SP in mind, not MP

[unreal dock]

i def think adding all towns would be great cause a lot of people would spawn in riverside to get to brandenburg anyways

and i wanna be able to spawn in Ekron 🙏

Fallas Lake would be sick too

[dense canopy]

ewww single player? gross

[jovial plover]

i wanna spawn in penisham lake

[primal pebble]

Please don't remove echo creek, ty

[brave solar]

i don’t think anybody asked for echo creek to be removed from the spawn locations so idk why they’re fixing something that wasn’t broken

[light onyx]

Too late

[gusty flax]

Its an OP spawn. Makes sense to me

[pseudo warren]

I see the vision though, you could stay a whole run in echo creek, addressing the problem of what to do late game? Encouraging the player to go out exploring

[gusty flax]

I love this notion of a crafting system that rewards crafting something new for the first time over grinding. Always advocated for that. I hope it will end up being brought to more than just Tailoring

[bright jungle]

42.16

[tender laurel]

rosewood is op too but that doesnt mean we have to remove it

[gusty flax]

The two are completely different, thats a terrible conparison. Rosewood will at least challenge new players and throw the experienced the odd curve ball. But Echo is just way too easily exploitable.

Ill be glad not to be tempted anymore

[tender laurel]

how so? the only place to get some good loot is guns unlimited and theres about a trillion zeds there. the actual town of echo creek has very little. its an easier start but thats not a bad thing. i personally spawn in riverside and i know exactly how to exploit that spawn because of the factory and storage units so close by which have tons of loot

[gusty flax]

There a much easier to loot gunshop only a short drive away, and a hunting store about the same distance in another direction. Being able to start plugging away a GU so early feel wrong fsr

[bitter heart]

Just hope it will get stable soon

[tender laurel]

then they can just up the zombie spawns there instead of removing the spawn point, no?

[chrome sierra]

How many seconds do you think it would take for people to complain that there’s too many zombies in echo creek and it makes no sense tho

[gusty flax]

Aye, verisimilitude and all that

[tender laurel]

i dont mean in echo creek i mean the hunting store where theres 50 guns for the taking. if you want to balance you have to wager realism against fun. just removing a spawn is the least fun option

especially when people have already gotten over the fact that theres 50 billion zombies in guns unlimited

[gusty flax]

Cant say i feel the same. It'll make me appreciate echo more

[somber urchin]

No, I'll take no echo creek spawn point than a more unreasonable zombie spawn

[tender laurel]

i dont think ill ever go there unless i spawn there because except for guns unlimited theres just not really anything there that you cant get somewhere else🤷‍♀️

its like going to dixie no one goes to dixie

[chrome sierra]

I’m in camp “unlock all cities to spawn in you cowards” but yea, I’d rather have no echo creek and a slightly more reasonable amount of zombies XD

[somber urchin]

The gas station is good, ovo farm is good, it's still a good place to settle in

[tender laurel]

theres gas stations in every town and chickens in a lot of the fields. its just not reasonable to remove echo creek for balance when you dont acknowledge every spawn can be incredibly op if you know what youre doing. im the type of person to turn up zombie spawns anyway because once again fun vs realism

[pseudo wigeon]

saying that guns unlimited makes echo creek op is really funny

because that isnt even true lmao

[chrome sierra]

Stendos probaly has more guns lol

[tender laurel]

we have to remove all spawn points theyre all op

[subtle burrow]

random spawn only

[quick summit]

I don't mind the Echo Creek spawn being removed, though, I'm curious to see if they added a different town over there as a spawn point instead. Without a replacement, the left side of the map would feel kinda left out x3

[toxic tiger]

Echo Creek removal is the worst thing tp happen to pz since security months earlier this month

Truly a tragic day

[odd oar]

removing echo creek is really disappointing - it's going to mean so many more people just never see the awesome new parts of the map in b42, as well as the best newbie start and the best start for rural gameplay

[wintry sable]

No crafting update.

[toxic tiger]

almost 50% of the actual map has not a single spawn point now, I bet so many people will visit those cities!

[calm dagger]

Is there a chance to get at least some very brief info on what was changed in the save format so the community could write a custom migration solution?

[broken bear]

Where's the exact specifics on the balancing changes?

[tough hazel]

#####################################################################
Fix building culling when aiming. Since 42.13 this is total disqualification for further PZ gaming!
#####################################################################

[haughty raptor]

Why would you remove the echo spawnpoint? Thats such an uneccesary thing to do imo. I dont know for the majority of the playwrbase but i personally hate even just the idea of having to drive across the entire map/away from my base to see any new locations

[sullen turtle]

with how broken things been these past few months. I'm fine with a full wipe if it finally fixes it all!

[sullen turtle]

for real, it's a great starter town. I have no interest in traveling there to live.

[final adder]

this would be amazing

[wide cedar]

Great work as always, think the unstable hype has died down for me, just waiting to sink time into a longer stable version playthrough

[dense canopy]

Make the PZK tow trucks more powerful again!

[tough hazel]

not my fault they lost physics after updates xD

[dense canopy]

Fix it reeeeeeeeeeee

❤️

[tough hazel]

im no longer working on mods. No interest in PZ gaming until crutial fixes like this building culling is reverted or can be patched.
You should ask PZK community to do patches for trucks 😄

[somber urchin]

What's a PZK?

[dense canopy]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3217685049

[tough hazel]

"Polskie Zakłady Kosmiczne" 😄

[dense canopy]

imho the best vanilla-like mod car pack available

[somber urchin]

Oh, I thought it was Project Zomboid K(something) lmao, thanks

[dense canopy]

(Peter is/was the original creator)

[timber harbor]

Plz don’t remove Echo Creek as a spawn

[somber yew]

Changelog that has yet to be released.

[stone jetty]

Found a really great 42.16.0 guide for playing Extinction Mode.

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/N0DOZbu67d

[wintry swift]

42.16?

[south oak]

I’ve been trying to browse extinction stuff but not much specific chatter

Day sprinters is 😬

[quick summit]

They'll be in the patch notes once the update actually drops

[fiery matrix]

any update brings us closer to stable release and ekko being removed is kinda weird. I mean i dont need it but if someone wants to be there they will find a way. I would rather see more spawn points then less. Maybe a complete random spawn were you could spawn almost everywhere for the brave souls

[lime kindle]

Maybe the removal of the echo creek spawn is an out of season april fools joke... oh wait.

[silent crow]

More spawnpoints would definelly be a good sandbox setting

[fiery matrix]

i dont mind but i would really like to see more spawn points in the future and maybe a randomized spawn were you could spawn almost everywhere. But only make it available if you pick extinction 😈

spawn in the middle of the mall in extinction. What fun time that would be

Or the rosewood prison or maybe the secret military building.
AHHHHHHH So many great spawn points for extinction

[somber urchin]

In the corner of the map with nothing

[vivid totem]

I think the new update just released

[stone jetty]

Yes

Same strategies apply to 42.16 day sprinters.

[fiery matrix]

not like that but dont worry about it

[hollow wyvern]

good thing they delivered the update on time

i was standing there looking at my watch...

[south oak]

Patch Thursday 3pm uk time?

(I have no intel I’m just throwing mud at the wall)

[stoic basin]

It's out now...

[south oak]

Oh

My meeting was cancelled and I’m forced to work with no time to play it

Noooo lol

[green belfry]

Cancel work to pay back and play pz

[south oak]

I think I must

Erm

Firefighter 0
Fitness instructor -6

That’s…a choice 🫨

[pseudo wigeon]

Controller isn’t usable on this newest update

[green belfry]

You can submit a bug report there: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-report-guide-updated-18122025/

[brave solar]

if nobody asked for echo creek to be removed and nobody had any issues with it idk why they’re fixing something that wasn’t broken

honestly the more spawn points the better. it’s a sandbox game. if players find echo creek too easy they will just migrate somewhere else

no need to balance it like we’re balancing a competitive game

[azure widget]

Would be great to be able to spawn in every city. No harm done.

[brave solar]

real. now that echo creek is removed i also don’t like how i have to choose whether i want to go east or west no matter where i spawn

[azure widget]

Yeah

[brave solar]

i like to spawn on the maps edge so i can journey from one side to the other over my run

[wicked viper]

Reactions are almost a replica of what happened when they removed the Louisville spawnpoint back then. Was intended to only be for testing.

Except the map was probably half as big back then.
Echo Creek was the perfect starting point to open up exploration of the western map area. Easily solved by mods but it does feel a bit unnecessary still

[stone jetty]

I feel like the spawn position got removed is because of the great Echo Creek gas station being nearby, discouraging new players from moving out.

[brave solar]

echo creek has no loot but no zombies and louisville has so much loot but so much zombies

it’s already balanced

[stone jetty]

We don't really know unless the devs tell us the reason.

[brave solar]

in my opinion the new player will figure it out themselves if they find it not challenging enough

and if they want a more challenging experience they will migrate to the challenging areas

the devs don’t have to decide for them

[azure widget]

Any spawn points mods that work on 42.16 that you could recommend?

[brave solar]

if anything sandbox mode should provide the option to change towns available to spawn in if they’re going out of their way to remove them as a whole

[potent nest]

echo creek is a noob trap spawn
too few cars and pretty remote outside of guns unlimited so your options for escaping are limited compared to all the other spawns and u get destroyed if u go to the closest POI
it is better as a place you visit later for staging guns unlimited or otherwise
its kinda analogous to fallas lake
being able to disable or enable spawns in sandbox would be a good compromise though

could see some interesting gamemode differences arising if they were tailored for their intended playerbase

[green lion]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/93273-version-42160-multiplayer-zombie-speed-setting-is-broken-all-zombies-are-fast-shamblers-regardless-of-speed-settings/

[neat rose]

didnt see it in the notes, did the Motion Sensitive trait get fixed?

[jovial plover]

thought it was removed to get reworked or something

[neat rose]

aah i see

i liked the idea but it was like, 30 seconds of driving resulted in two hours of max nausea moodle lol, i think if it just capped at "queasy" instead of being able to go all the way up it might be fine

[jovial plover]

yah i liked the trait, i thought it was funny, and it was really good on 12 months laters and challenge maps where you dont get a car right away or drive much

[chrome sierra]

30 seconds, did we play the same game?

Try 3 seconds 😉 XD

[neat rose]

lmao hello ;p also yes it was basically instant which is wild considering how long it took to go back to normal

[chrome sierra]

And then you drive past one dead zombie and die XD it was great

[neat rose]

😂

[amber kelp]

this update destroyed the controller compatibility bruh how do i talk to the devs working on controller support LMAOOO

[chrome sierra]

I don’t really understand removing echo creek tho, the spawn locations are basically another difficult option imo. If someone wants to start extra easy (echo) or extra hard (Louis) why not let them

[jovial plover]

if you have feedback you can post it here or tis forums

[gusty flax]

That is an interesting way of looking at it

[amber kelp]

the controller changes are absolutely ABYSSMAL we no longer engage in jog via R2 and can no longer sprint with the R2+B instead they made jogging an L3 dead zone activation this is a horrible implement for ppl who's controllers have more wear on them not to mention the dead zone settings are glitched so bad to the point where it would hurt my thumb even more to steady my controller stick perfectly to walk and reserve stamina the aiming implement was such a good push forward for controller all they needed was to fix a couple weird issues like certain things not getting picked up by the world options button (selecting options for tv's and radios which i needed to physically right click with mouse which btw i was willing to deal with lol) but switching up a whole portion of the controller scheme was not the answer i have almost 1223 hours SOLELY on controller and this update broke the one way i enjoy playing the game. sorry if this seems super rude im just extremely upset about the update

[tight sky]

I don't like the rework of the controller imputs. I like using my left thumbstick to walk only and the new method of only using 90% thumbstick to walk is hard to use. My character was running everywhere with the new layout and quickly fatigued me.

[tight sky]

I couldn't agree more👍

[jovial plover]

would be nice for a option to turn on and off

[sacred thicket]

Three patches now and us controller users still don’t have the context menu option for tv/radio unless picking it up and placing it back down.

I agree with all the uproar regarding the new sprinting method, but I feel like amidst all that no one seems to be mentioning the melee aim still seems to be off. Yes, they have fixed the iso cursor travel issue, but for me on steamdeck the aim seems to not be centered on the player, it’s slightly lower. So I have to aim NE to swing right, if I push my stick directly to the right, my character is aiming south east.

after the last few patches Im honestly starting to suspect that no internal controller testing is happening at all.

[pseudo wigeon]

Controller isn’t playable anymore lol

Its stuck in a running state when you move no matter what

[cinder rapids]

I agree with you guys, I hate the way running works now, maybe I'll get used to it but im not sure. I also really dislike that i cant move my character anymore when I have my inventory open. melee combat is better but still not as good as it was. hopefully they get it right with next patch because I really love this game, but i only play with controller, and this latest update makes it really difficult

[unreal cove]

Controller is lame anyways

[amber kelp]

the way we enjoy playing the game is lame? why say anything if you have 0 intelligent input?

some of us are very passionate about this game we dont need a kbm player talking trash on the ONLY way we enjoy playing tbh its quite lame of you to even utter that sentence.

[unreal cove]

Lmao

[amber kelp]

cornball

[unreal cove]

https://tenor.com/view/cornman-corn-man-corn-time-time-gif-20345758

[jovial plover]

lol you got called a cornball

[unreal cove]

Tbf i deserved it

[jovial plover]

yes you did lol

https://tenor.com/view/alone-corner-gif-1618053002685765061

[gusty flax]

Can definitely see why they wanna free up R2 for controllers, but yeah this type of movement scheme is open to too much error

[jovial plover]

i like the auto run thingie, dont really care for the auto open doors or the auto sit down on chairs or however i triggered that lol. But if its possible would really like option for it

[green lion]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/93441-4216-character-cannot-turn-into-zombie-upon-dying-despite-being-infected/

[clever merlin]

I play streaming to my console sometimes and the auto sprint/changes to movement on controller is cool to see. Not a fan but it would be cool to have key binding support on the controller and to be able to enable toggles like sprinting like keyboard has so others who do enjoy the changes can keep them.

[graceful birch]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1488497275645722645
Most people seem to agree...

[vivid merlin]

Steam input support without be good then everyone can customize it to their liking.

Have an official template from TIS

[subtle burrow]

what about gog users?

[vivid merlin]

That won't help them of course.

[green lion]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/93599-42161-major-bug-zombies-of-all-types-can-not-break-tall-fences-in-the-latest-patch/

[blissful chasm]

Mods will break stuff? But my Skeeter Davis End of the World death music is essential to my game.

[green lion]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/93743-42161-major-balance-bug-fire-no-longer-spreads/

[light onyx]

Fire spreading indoors has been broken since the fire spread in meta bug "fix" attempt

Playing CDDA hasn't been the same challenge since lol

[humble ember]

i remember was also outside, i draw a huge horde in fallas lake and nothing happened they didn't die or had any damgae from the fire

but i did and also died

[green lion]

Ima cry

[rancid sand]

Do you know why they emphasize never going outside during nighttime?

does darkness affect accuracy or something now?

[stone jetty]

No, darkness just makes you unable to see your surroundings.

You need lighting

Sprinters can just sneak up on you if you're not aware.

[rancid sand]

flashlight and/or cat-eyes makes nighttime and daytime seem about the same

unless inside with no flashlight, cuz the moonlight doesnt reach.

[rancid sand]

btw that post is written by A.I.
poster admitted it too.

[stone jetty]

Oh really... eh.

[main nest]

ai generated guides for pz is crazy

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-facepalm-gif-6846558210271161245

[light onyx]

It's mostly all info that's slightly off, aka AI adding its own flair lol

No one's checking their shoes at least twice a day, every day, what kind of advice is that lol

[feral vault]

internet no longer has humans.

robots everywhere

[subtle burrow]

[daring pewter]

atleast!

of course you do it more than that!

also atleast half to those points are taken straight out of videos with beginner tips for zomboid, lol

[light onyx]

Yep, not extinction specific at all

[quick summit]

At the time of the guide being posted, sprinters were active nighttime only, I assume that's why

It's sprinters night and day now :D

[subtle burrow]

personally even on fast shamblies I don't usually go out at night unless I have to

[feral vault]

i wonder if there is an instant transmission speed setting for shamblors

faster sprinters

[hollow sandal]

Uh Sugestion could buff mechanical? Its my fav job
It cost 14 pts and only gives
4 mechanical
1 Metalisteria
and mechanical skill (3 pts)

While Carpinter cost 12 pts
1 short weap
4 carpinter
1 maintance
1 masonry
1 carving

Thats 8 pts for 12 pts while mech its 5 pts + skill (3) 8pts for 14pts

I would love mechanical to be, 14pts
1 Short weap
1 Electronic (becos mechanicals know that)
+3 mechanical
+1 metalistery
+1 maintance
7pts for 14pts
(with skill would be 10pts for 14pts, still fair (?)
Or maybe change one stat for +1 strenght. refaccions are soo heavy they are strong people

thx if read my suggestion

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