my common build

[jagged oriole]

[austere knoll]

Get unfit outta there

Also brave and eagle eyed 🥀

[valid zodiac]

rofl

[jagged oriole]

i got too many points

[valid zodiac]

yeah I can't imagine not choosing atheltic and strong now

[jagged oriole]

i usually start all skills set to 0

[valid zodiac]

you can do much for longer

[austere knoll]

Fuh naw

[jagged oriole]

masochism you may think

[austere knoll]

Str and fit level 0 is ass

I can get str 0

But fit 0?

Naw man

[hollow delta]

Those positive traits are kinda mid

[ivory rapids]

All skill sets at 0, not just phsycials?

[jagged oriole]

i picked every positive

trait

[valid zodiac]

silly

[jagged oriole]

because i had too many points

[valid zodiac]

you didnt pick atheletic and strong though

[jagged oriole]

except nutritionist and fast driver

[valid zodiac]

[ivory rapids]

You might as well get rid of some of those negatives and nix the less useful positive traits

[jagged oriole]

thought of that

[hollow delta]

Iirc Brave you can get over time with zombies killed, there are better traits than Eagle, Graceful can help with acrobatics but you can also not put yourself in those situations, Inconspicuous is rough because you'll want to kill stuff in your way instead of iffy stealth

[valid zodiac]

also you can just microsip

[ivory rapids]

Inconspicuous? Brave? INventive? No need for these things

[valid zodiac]

to instantly wipe panic

[jagged oriole]

before that build i always picked cowardly

[hollow delta]

Cowardly is bad because it gives stress iirc

[jagged oriole]

+2 free points

[valid zodiac]

Inventive could be worth it just for auto learn generator at 2 electical

[hollow delta]

Oh it's just panic

[valid zodiac]

no it justs gives panic

[jagged oriole]

inventive is peak

[hollow delta]

Inventive feels mid

Just loot/read/grind more

[ivory rapids]

Not really no lol

[valid zodiac]

I mean if there is nothing else to get

[jagged oriole]

getting access to sth earlier

[hollow delta]

Wakeful is 25% less sleep, Organized is like 30% more storage capacity, Dextrous gives much faster item transfer/loot speed

[valid zodiac]

it is 2 points and could be better than cat eyes

[jagged oriole]

is good

[valid zodiac]

for extinction at least

I still do choose it for the forage bonus lol

but have been tempted by Inventive

[hollow delta]

Oh it's two screenshots lmao

Weird choice I thought it was split

What occupation are you

[jagged oriole]

couldnt fit all in one

[jagged oriole]

custom.

[hollow delta]

Oh my bad then

[jagged oriole]

every skill is set to 0

[ivory rapids]

It's a 0 skills build

[jagged oriole]

zero to hero

or how it was called

playing w/ that build rn

[hollow delta]

Still

[hollow delta]

Oh wait, does the build prevent you from getting weapon skills

[ivory rapids]

Yeah, ZtH is no skills allowed on start

[hollow delta]

Ah ok

[jagged oriole]

late game investment

every positive thingy

[hollow delta]

Well then if everything was picked what are we doing here lol

[jagged oriole]

in late game

[jagged oriole]

discussin

[ivory rapids]

Id consider getting rid of some of those negative traits, even the ones that arent so bad, just to get rid of posivites that I dont care about

For example Im not a Keen Hearing enjoyer like some

[jagged oriole]

me too but free points

gotta set those to 0

[hollow delta]

Yeah, I would drop Inventive, Fast Reader, Fast Learner, and Brave

[jagged oriole]

rather than keeping it >0

[jagged oriole]

fast learnaer is peak

[ivory rapids]

Fast Learner might be a good investment on ZtH, if that's allowed

[jagged oriole]

it is allowed

[ivory rapids]

Depends on pop settings imo

[jagged oriole]

it doesnt give you levels

[jagged oriole]

standart apoc

canon

[hollow delta]

Oh it does apply to weapons, ok fair but the other 3 are still mediocre

[ivory rapids]

OKay not enough zombies around to easily grind out weapon skills

[hollow delta]

Booklearning is just a time sink, brave unless changed in b42 is not a big deal, and inventive you can get with enough grind/loot

[ivory rapids]

there's a world where, if Im looking for exp boosts, Id do Crafty over Fast Learner

but that would probably be at higher pop settings

[jagged oriole]

animal care

[ivory rapids]

Yeah I took Brave recently to test how much of a boost Id get on a short term bun build and it wasnt much

[hollow delta]

"A character's panic recovery speed increases every day, as time ticks over to midnight, up to a maximum of 150 days survived. Panic seems to decrease at a rate of 1.75% per second on the 1st day, taking roughly 56 seconds to fully dissipate from 100%. All the way up to 50% per second or taking 2 seconds to fully dissipate from 100%."

For reference

[jagged oriole]

carfty gives boost only to crafting skills

[ivory rapids]

Oh Animal Care is so free though

[hollow delta]

Just pet the cow

[jagged oriole]

getting it faster is good

30L of milk from one cow

[hollow delta]

I think it'd be easier to show us what positive traits are even an option lol

[jagged oriole]

6 butter chops

[ivory rapids]

On Apoc you can just grab two holstein cows and be ten in a month or two without even reading books

its obscenely fast

Then once you level up, drop back down to one cow so you dont have a huge time sink sitting at base overproducing milk and butter that youll never use

[jagged oriole]

i usually build big ahh barn

[hollow delta]

Yeah I have 2 cows in my current run but I only use it for butter access since milk is kind of broken atm

[jagged oriole]

other run

[jagged oriole]

CMON

[jagged oriole]

haha lol

[austere knoll]