[UPDATED 2026-03-20] Important Security Updates

[exotic bone]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92891-important-security-updates/

[sharp rivet]

New news!

[pale pecan]

hoh this is different security vulunerability!

[sharp rivet]

Yeah

[pale pecan]

no.. wait this is the same security vulunerability they just reassure us about the cleansing of it

swell and awesome

[sacred current]

Let's hope for 42.16 releasing soon because people playing on controllers or splitscreen can't enjoy the game now

[exotic bone]

Controllers are absolutely being worked on

[sacred current]

I don't doubt it but without 42.14 we need to take a break

Or just go back to 41

[elder sleet]

i dont think i could go back to 41 at this point lol, 42mp still has some jank but its in much better shape now

[sacred current]

Yeah, B42 is lovely

[elder sleet]

im sure there's a lot of stuff im ignorant about too but it feels like there's not a ton left to fix before stable? ragdolls, some crafting stuff, sprinters... 🤔

[lost abyss]

Im confused. Does that mean only the latest unstable and build 41 stable is the only ones playable now?

[exotic bone]

Yes. outdatedunstable branch currently exists but is temporarily the same version as unstable until 42.16.0 is released

[lost abyss]

Ah i see now! Thanks. Was confused when reading it lol

[winter hare]

Hooray!

[winter hare]

ETA on 42.16?
Like are we talking about days or weeks or god forbid, months? lol

[earnest lance]

I hope they fix character getting naked when hitting zombies and cars going underground xD

[exotic bone]

I want to give an ETA, but nothing is solidified yet. We have changed our strategy with our internal testing to help speed up releases, and so far it has been working really well.

We have had bad experiences with ETAs in the past (the last one was a bit of an anomoly to explain why we were removing 42.13), and so even vague ones are a no-no for us... at least for now

[sacred current]

Last patch was crazy fast (3 weeks) but it also introduced many bugs

[winter hare]

All good as long as we're not talking about months lol

If the current pace stays consistent I'm guessing days or weeks at most.

Thx for the answer tho!

[gusty aurora]

Dental floss icon when

[exotic bone]

Asking the important questions

[winter hare]

Absolutely...
Broken window theory.

[steady gyro]

I got secret intel

B42 stable comes out sometime between now and the heat death of the universe

[exotic bone]

Great... now I need to track down who broke NDA...

[steady gyro]

👀

[left edge]

It was you!

[exotic bone]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[thick gorge]

Is there any possibility of playing with sprinters and fast shamblers in the future, Sully ? 😗

[exotic bone]

I assume you mean multiplayer?

because it exists in SP

[thick gorge]

Just the two of them, no slow zombies.

[exotic bone]

oooooh... good question... can this not be done with sandbox settings?

I must look now

[thick gorge]

I tried, but it's not possible.

[lusty lily]

sully what about bugged vehicles?

[exotic bone]

will we implement bugged vehicles you mean? Not intentionally... unless I missed something

I couldn't resist, sorry

[winter hare]

they kinda sink into the ground rn

[exotic bone]

Yeah we're aware of the issue and working on it

[lusty lily]

ugh that was 50yo joke?

[lusty lily]

thank you

[exotic bone]

those are the best kinds of jokes

[lusty lily]

gotcha

[winter hare]

Thought so, I was just clarifying 👍

[exotic bone]

Does this not work?

[thick gorge]

Hmm, I don't think so. You'll only get fast shamblers.

[exotic bone]

hmmm you are right, only applies if Random is set for speed. Recommend putting it as a suggestion. Curious if it was built that way for a reason

!suggestion

[rotund osprey]

Your suggestion here will be lost to the void. While not actively responded to, suggestions posted on our forums or Steam are actively read, so we recommend you post there instead:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/20-pz-suggestions/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/2/

[hidden hound]

Sprinters are not available in MP, since they caused issues since B41.

[winter hare]

Think they were talking about sp... could be wrong

[exotic bone]

yeah, were discussing SP. They want fast shamblers with random sprinters

[thick gorge]

Exactly. Thank you for the amazing attention, Sully. (or AmazingSully attention ? 🤨)

[primal mesa]

ohhh another one!

[exotic bone]

https://tenor.com/view/exhausted-sleepy-my-monday-play-time-mood-gif-13441906

[primal mesa]

I feel this

[icy prawn]

You have to set the zombie activity to both for extinction. It’s set to night in the sandbox settings, which means they only sprint or fast walk at night.

[thick gorge]

😂😂

[thick gorge]

The issue was that we can't just play with sprinters and fast shamblers. If you play with random zombies, you'll always encounter slow zombies as well.

[icy prawn]

Ah I see, my bad

[still hollow]

Always good to see fixes coming for security dangers good work to the dev team for working on this efficenctly 😄

[stray copper]

What is the name for the release for build 41?

for server configuration

[wise vector]

41.78.17

[safe arrow]

this big security update just to keep the recipe for Spiffo's Secret Sauce hidden away

[primal mesa]

wow people on reddit are upset

holy moly lol, poor sully 🙁

[exotic bone]

It's a lot better than I thought it would be honestly

lot of positive comments as well

[fast parcel]

must've got all their energy out the first time 😅

[primal mesa]

[exotic bone]

honestly I think the fact that it took us longer to fix this one so we were able to get our ducks in a row for messaging is what helped

[grizzled elk]

Yeah I was expecting the worst but it seems weve avoided that which is good

[odd wigeon]

The reddit community for tis is so wildly different than this discord

[grizzled elk]

Dont look at the steam forums either lol

[exotic bone]

It's because of how people interact with the different platforms. People come here to be part of the community. On Reddit people just follow subreddits for news in their feed and interact with what they agree with or what makes them angry (and of course the algorithm pushes controversy)

Steam forums people go to complain, and TIS forums people go to because they are fans or want to file a bug report

[odd wigeon]

That makes sense, i dont know well how reddit operates

[grizzled elk]

Just had a mega thread from someone (who is not a modder) make blanket statements about how modders hate modding the game now (which Ive only seen the opposite of)

[odd wigeon]

yeahh

[grizzled elk]

Weird times

[odd wigeon]

reddit seems to be like a bunch of new players spreading partly-incorrect information alot

which is really fun, tbh

[exotic bone]

those things are just the internet in general now. A lot of people confidently incorrect thinking their viewpoint can only be correct

[odd wigeon]

this discord does often have a "if not purely correct get shit on"

yeah

[grizzled elk]

Unfortunately the truth. Being able to wade through bs on the internet is something you need to learn

[exotic bone]

and everyone is a conspiracy theorist

[grizzled elk]

Thats what you think...

[exotic bone]

I've seen far too many people say that we are lying about the security vulnerabilities that have been patched

[odd wigeon]

lmao why

[exotic bone]

no clue... we're massochists?

[grizzled elk]

Theyre CLEARLY hiding something

[odd wigeon]

we lied about security vulnerabilities to remove old versions because we love negative feedback

[grizzled elk]

You think that the toilet bears mod Sully made was an innocent off joke? You naive fools...

[exotic bone]

granted it's only a handful of people... but it's nuts

[odd wigeon]

yeah

[exotic bone]

that reminds me... I need to work on my next mod

[odd wigeon]

oh?

give us the tea

[exotic bone]

nah, it has to be a surprise

[odd wigeon]

i see

[grizzled elk]

Next mod has to be where the player has to pass Indie Stones sometimes

[exotic bone]

kidney stone mod?

only when you pass it it's RJ's face

oh wow... that was the easiest mod I ever made lol

took 3 minutes

just need the art and I'll share

[grizzled elk]

👀

[exotic bone]

@manic tapir @unborn sky I finally got around to it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3687494924

[manic tapir]

LOL , does it come with kidney stones

best day ever!

[exotic bone]

no, I'll need to think on that one

[manic tapir]

thanks for the collab lmao, frypolate n murlocs

[wind pine]

again? well good work getting it fixed!

[exotic bone]

by the time I make the kidney stone mod the meme will be dead though

is it worth it still...

[manic tapir]

nah im keeping that one alive lol

[wind pine]

this might be the wrong place to ask but would a mod like https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3559765660&searchtext=vehicle+physic ever be able to work without manual installation? like once b42 is stable will the modding api be extended or are you guy satisfied with current state

[exotic bone]

The reason it requires manual installation is because it's a java mod. The only way it would ever work without a manual installation is if it wasn't a java mod, which would mean the developer would have to completely remake it in lua, and we would need to expand the API to allow that (which we are actually looking into)

[wind pine]

Ah sick, well thats what I was curious about since im assuming the reason it's a java mod is because the API doesn't allow them to do what it does right now

so Java was the only option, but good to hear you guys plan to extend the API in the future

[sacred current]

What about this one? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3684713089

[exotic bone]

I'll just say that the team is aware of this one. Great quality of life. Team agrees.

[sacred current]

Great to hear

[hardy vector]

22k users in 4 days

[summer fox]

I'll go you one further; I'm pretty certain that TIS killed JFK and then you faked the moon landing to cover up the fact that the world isn't only flat, but it's isometric too!

[primal mesa]

[exotic bone]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[zinc matrix]

Everything. Is. Broken

[hardy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-ok-fire-dog-gif-16556296

[summer fox]

What's broken?

[pale pecan]

ooh my aching back

[zinc matrix]

Are you trolling me rn?

Genuine question ^

[manic tapir]

think theyre asking what you have found that is broken

[primal mesa]

is it just me or is the adult education center in muldraugh not having any books hilarious

[manic tapir]

lol

they took their homework home

[primal mesa]

[zinc matrix]

Nw, just had to make sure. Never know A lot of things actually, at least that my server is experiencing, we've run myriads of test.. including but not limited to.. removing mods one by one and even down to vanilla b42 launch no mods subscribed by the server it isn't working. Client mismatch errors across the board.

(and we've updated, I made sure like 4x)

[hardy vector]

oh MP

yeh the sky is blue

[manic tapir]

oh so modded mp, yah theres no telling what fuckyness gonng happenthar

[zinc matrix]

insane

[summer fox]

Have you tried this

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1rx72vz/important_security_updates/ob5748f/

[zinc matrix]

It completely reverted our build to 42.15.0, so yeah, inherently we did. I'll try one more time and see if it fixes anything.

[exotic bone]

42.15.0 isn't an available version

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[exotic bone]

#1019767076094758924

[zinc matrix]

Trial and error, you guys got a lot going on.

[quick void]

Is their any potential idea to create offline only distributions of the older versions for people who wish to play them? ie 38, 40, etc? or are the people who like old just supposed to kinda deal with it?

[primal mesa]

I think they would have to also disable any kind of modding in those builds which would be an absolute ton of work I'd imagine

Modding is likely the vector of vulnerability

[quick void]

100%, remove workshop functionality and mp, and then rerelease an offline vers

that way people can actually play it, instead of just being told to practically eff off

[primal mesa]

I could see that when stable comes out, but currently it is all hands on deck with pushing for stable (as per the post)

[quick void]

true, but this again is the issue of post 1 update occasionally and break things, or constantly break things

we dont need content drip, we need things not destroyed every month

[manic tapir]

not going to happen on unstable

[quick void]

hence above, give less total, more content per

quality over quantity

[fast parcel]

when the unstable build is unstable

[quick void]

he said the word guys! he said unstable! guess QA shouldnt at all be expected!

Glory to the TIS deepstate!

[manic tapir]

I don't think most of the community would enjoy that.

[quick void]

no shit, not everyone plays b38. its for those who do, instead of just telling them to fuck off and removing their version and not making it possible to reinstall

[manic tapir]

Where are you getting they said fuck off lol

[quick void]

its an idiom

[arctic orbit]

a wat

[manic tapir]

If you are reffering to them removing the builds that had the security issues, It was a security vulnerability that TIS is liable for so legally they had to do something.

[quick void]

yeah no duh, but its a kick in the nuts to do so, say you did it, and then provide zero capacity to regain those versions,

[quick void]

fig lang device, ie, "a piece of cake"

[exotic bone]

The alternative is that we delay B42. I suspect you don't want that

Lesser of evils

[quick void]

i couldnt truly care too much, im not 1 for multi or god knows whats added next, i have zero clue, and we arent told.

Im saying that these things should be iterated on, those who do enjoy the previous shouldnt have to just not be able to use the later versions at all

and even then, stable isnt what i care for, i care for the versions not being released as monthly nothing burgers that break everything

[exotic bone]

Can't have your cake and eat it too. The game needs to be developed

It's not reasonable to ask the entire community to not get updates

[manic tapir]

i like stuff

[quick void]

not at all what im saying. Im saying updates shouldnt be prioritized on quantity, as it just causes more problems.

And then eventually have these things sorted

[exotic bone]

They aren't prioritised on quantity

[quick void]

im not saying to kill the engine and completely quit for the 10% minority

[thorny linden]

dude just does not understand game development

[primal mesa]

if someone actually cares to stay on a build they can easily just move it out of their steamapps folder

[exotic bone]

there are also alternatives that I won't go into for... reasons

[primal mesa]

[quick void]

i should have phrased that better, they are released as such, they are frequent, break things very often, and could rather be made less frequent, and prioritzing the quality of them, and break less

[quick void]

that is a contingency, yes, and we tell players to back up, what do they do? they dont. This update would have to require you not to auto update, and then completely copy the game before updating to avoid losing that vers

[exotic bone]

The entire point of unstable is to get valuable feedback and bug fix. Having regular releases helps with that. Slowing releases will not only upset the community, it will actively slow development, which people already complain is too slow

[quick void]

which is what i and some other rat racers have done

[flat falcon]

Meow

[primal mesa]

anyone who has been in a modding scene should know this, look at any bethesda game - they update and break things frequently without telling people, modders need to manually update every single patch (even minor ones) never leave auto update on if it is important

[quick void]

feedback is needed yes. (as much as i see half the bug reports unanswered). I dont see how making just slightly larger patches, and not breaking the game each month or every few weeks would make players mad

[exotic bone]

People get mad with the pace of the current cycle. It's impossible to please everyone.

This pace works for us, and the community

[quick void]

bethesda itself is made up of glue and duct tape, im saying people will get upset about these, as they dont contingency plamn

[manic tapir]

nah, they have been doing fine with updates compared to build 41 when it was almost weekly we were getting patches that were constantly breaking servers and mods. We asked for this

[quick void]

no duh, but thats just sorta a red herring, if people will be mad no matter what, why not focus on the less mad people option?

[exotic bone]

We have

[primal mesa]

hard to have a contingency plan when a random vulnerability shows up across all versions and you need to fix it asap or risk worse

[quick void]

and people are still upset by the frequency of breaks,

[quick void]

no duh, players cant predict that, and thats why LATER(i said it, later) we have an iteration of the old versions

[primal mesa]

which is why I said "I could see that when stable comes out, but currently it is all hands on deck with pushing for stable (as per the post)"

and we go in a loop again and again

[manic tapir]

Well hopefully they learn from this experience and choose to play vanilla while on unstable or something for future betas or stay on stable. I havent had any of my games break or anything on vaniller

[quick void]

uh huh, and thats what i agreed with, that it doesnt need to be stopped. i merely asked if their was any plan to rerelease them. which wasnt answereed

[manic tapir]

i dont play with mods on unstable cause of that, lol learned the hard way when i had a server back in 41

[primal mesa]

it was though, in the initial forum post

[summer fox]

What exactly (if anything) has broken in this new security patch anyway?

[odd wigeon]

reading is a skill known to few

[primal mesa]

[quick void]

"exploring ways" and having a plan are different.

having a general idea, and able to answer, if they plan to, or are not would be appreciated

[primal mesa]

and the very last line in that... "but we are unable to make any commitments at this time."

[quick void]

sure is

[odd wigeon]

it basically boils down to exactly what sully said, primary focus will be on b42 stable, and and as the ability arises reintroduce legacy builds

[manic tapir]

id rather them work on 42 and get that out of the door to be honest

[quick void]

100%, all i had asked, since the beginning, was whether it was more likely too, or unlikely for them to visit that

[primal mesa]

same, I don't touch them till it is stable, and even then I wait a while to let everything settle a bit

plus I prefer being able to report bugs

[manic tapir]

yah, cause im waiting to get a mp server until stable

[glass jetty]

I am highly considering going back to b41 as my server has been experiencing some really strange behavior regarding certain accounts joining and causing the entire server to stop responding to any actions. If anyone has any insight on this please let me know!

[primal mesa]

Are you running mods? If yes then it is likely one of those causing it, if not then I'd recommend submitting logs to the lovely people over at #1019767076094758924

I haven't run into that on any of the servers I have played so far for b42

[glass jetty]

yes it is using mods, had it down to 20 mods (all very popular well maintained ones) And okay thank you i will do that next time it happens!

[primal mesa]

❤️ hope you find a solution!

[unborn sky]

It seems evident and conclusive that in fact, Sully rules

[arctic orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/delay-the-update-gachi-gif-2248412581895248061

(im kidding dont delay the update lol)

[velvet pond]

Will we ever be able to get on top of cars and do things like climbing dumpsters and if possible use it to reach the roof of a building?

[left edge]

Not officially any time soon I think. They're kinda slow with things that require animations from what I've noticed and climbing on dumpsters and cars is more complicated than just putting the player there.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136501320340209664/1480767894320058641/climbable_vehicles_first_anim.gif

[velvet pond]

I think parts of the game that could use updating is movement and some zombie interactions (fence cheese too strong)

The way it is currently is fine but i do hope eventually those get changes

[grizzled elk]

Seeing people get mad that they cant access legacy builds when there is probably a 99.99% chance they never played them anyway is interesting

[manic tapir]

Lol

lot of head scratcher

[exotic bone]

There is an uncomfortable number of people who wanted us to not patch a security vulnerability

[unborn sky]

all fun and games until its TIS "fault" they bricked their PC or otherwise

[vague geode]

please fix melee combat on controller 🙁 i cant play this game anymore as exclusive controller player

[exotic bone]

it's being worked on

[vague geode]

ty

[civic tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-horror-scary-lighting-luna-cat-monkeycatluna-gif-17506854629819655482

[tacit star]

Sounds like someone needs to make a Java mod mod (a mod for handling Java mods...)
(I can spell "Java". That is the limit of my technical abilities in this realm.)

[primal mesa]

Or their bank account gets drained

[grizzled elk]

Speaking of this, does anyone else have the issue on controller where the player's movement will just randomly stop and jitter? Ive almost died a few times because of it

Seems to me like an issue where the game suddenly and randomly doesnt read the joystick axis

[vague geode]

yes, ive had this problem since i start playing the game with b41. it doesnt happen all the time though, sometimes i can have entire sessions without noticing it, then other times it can be quite bad

[grizzled elk]

Its definitely the main issue I have when playing on Steam Deck, other than that its great

[odd wigeon]

apathy is a huge problem nowadays

people dont care what happens to anyone else but themselves, and they cant play their unstable saves anymore so its bad.

[manic tapir]

that is so insane to me lol , aint no way i want something bad happening to my computer, theyre so expensive now and gosh what if something happened to all my community saves ms paints pictures

[primal mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-allow-it-gif-17514413855288578269

[sacred current]

I reported it but QA "couldn't replicate it". Leave a comment on my post to confirm it

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92085-42141-splitscreen-issues-textures-flickering-turning-black-and-stuttering-jog-only-for-controller/

[sacred current]

You can leave a comment too, that would be helpful

[manic tapir]

i have had that jog thingie happen a couple times when i played steamdeck but I always thought i wasnt pressing the button or something hard enough lol

[sacred current]

Same. Then I thought it's my controller having issues

But it happens on multiple controllers, bluetooth/cable, new saves

[wheat vector]

can i still continue are build 42.14.1 world?

with build 42.15.2

[odd wigeon]

probably

maybe?
if you have mods maybe not

[wheat vector]

i had no mods

and its very buggy and cars go into the ground sometimes

[odd wigeon]

if its sp no mods you can probably continue

yeah, luckily they fix themselves when you get near them

[wheat vector]

and zombies that bite you without being close its werid

should we have to start a new world ?

[manic tapir]

i would

[wheat vector]

thanks so much!

we are starting a new world

[manic tapir]

yay , live long and eat rat

[wheat vector]

of course

[manic tapir]

[tacit star]

But how are the Mole people supposed to get around if we don't spawn cars for them?

[wheat vector]

oh my and zombies rip off are stuff too

[novel moss]

Puppers #2?!

[exotic bone]

Been that way for a while... pay attention

[grizzled elk]

The old one broke

[manic tapir]

[storm basin]

im getting "%s" where the time/weather numbers should be in the automated radio since updating. didnt think it was big enough to start a tech support thread for, but heads up

[primal mesa]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92451-4215-aebs-weather-broadcast-displays-raw-format-placeholders-s/

I had the same issue on my run as well, no mods

[storm basin]

ah yeah, this exact issue. i'm on unstable branch, using a save from the last version

[primal mesa]

yarr

I posted that on the 12th, that was a fresh save from 42.15.0

[novel moss]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-busy-doing-stuff-pc-principal-2

[primal mesa]

and this is today

[pale pecan]

i wonder if this security vulunerability is hardware destroying

[safe arrow]

N3na3

[primal mesa]

I'd say that is unlikely, the more likely scenario is that if a mod were to be installed that used the exploit would allow for running of arbitrary code which could then allow them to keylog, or gain access to your computer

which I mean they could destroy your computer with that, but I think they would do other things like use it in a botnet, or drain your bank account

Or fill it with general malware. Or ransomware if they can't gain access to your bankaccount

[pale pecan]

InsOmniumWOlf

[pale pecan]

how very scary

[primal mesa]

yarrr

that is why TIGS takes these things very seriously

[primal mesa]

🧡

[safe arrow]

they gotta name one of the in-game buildings “The Indie Game Store” so that the meme doesn’t die

[primal mesa]

💯 ☝️

[pale pecan]

they'll just make a 1x1 store with a sign

[exotic bone]

[UPDATED 2026-03-20] Important Security Updates

[hybrid mica]

💯

[red ravine]

@exotic bone could you pin the original post pls

[uneven junco]

Hello, I have a question. I’m the owner of a Zomboid RP server, and we had a bunch of mods for it. When the security update came out, about 10 of the mods broke for some of our members but not for others. I was wondering if there’s any way, as a server owner, to make sure no one has issues. Also, I’m using Nitrado B41.

[exotic bone]

That doesn't make a lot of sense honestly. If all users are playing on the same version of the game, with the same version of the mod installed, the behaviour should be the same. The only thing I could guess is that there is a version mismatch somewhere.

Make sure you update the server, and that all players update their client.

[rich fulcrum]

So now it's time to update to 42.15.3?

[exotic bone]

yes

[rich fulcrum]

Were there any other fixes besides the one written?

[exotic bone]

There was a small tweak to the workshop uploading screen, but it's entirely cosmetic, and just exists to alert users that they need to click on a popup to upload to the workshop now

[static bluff]

So the important security update, its just i can make a mod that make user upload mod ?

[red ravine]

Specifics of any vulnerability won't be disclosed

[uneven junco]

By just restarting the server?

[left edge]

Example

"If you did not request this, click Cancel." ".... AND START PANICKING"

[exotic bone]

That will undoubtedly be a question for your server provider. Some auto update, others don't

[wary marsh]

This update on B41 as well for the little workshop popup I assume?

[exotic bone]

both B41 stable and B42 unstable have the popup, but again, the main reason for the latest hotfix was to fix a rare crash.

[civic tiger]

for the future, would pz be able to reload specific lua files / folders in-game if possible?

it doesn't make sense (to me) to be forced to get out of a game / run, reload absolutely everything and rejoin each time you update or change a single file

this is referring specifically just to workshop uploaded files and the likes, not pz updates

https://tenor.com/view/tarantula-spider-boogie-dance-gif-1496542221627060498

[exotic bone]

This would be something to request in #mod_portal

[torn imp]

Frustrating that the only B42 version available to play now has so many issues, but understandable that you had to patch the security flaw. Hoping the next update is soon and wishing you luck on working on it, hope it all goes smoothly.

[tacit star]

I've had cases where the client's mod update didn't work properly. The solution was to unsubscribe from the mod, allow Steam to remove it, then re-connect to the server (which forces a re-subscription to the mod).

[sand wyvern]

What channel do we even yap on these fays

[manic tapir]

fays

[manic tapir]

Can we have PZ version box set

[primal mesa]

Definitely doom inside PZ when

[sand wyvern]

I like the idea of being a fae

[surreal lava]

Unless I'm misinterpreting the request, you can already update .lua files from the -debug f11 menu

[sand wyvern]

Harber christmas is over

Its time to put away the Santa hat

[primal mesa]

the idea I think is that say you use the ingame workshop browser and you download some things, you need to reload the game completely to be able to enable the mods that you just downloaded

which I don't think is currently possible without -debug

[fast parcel]

as a modder i can tell you that that is not possible to implement

even the manual debug file reload often causes issues unless you have special handling for it, lua files just aren't something you can undo and rerun any time you want

[civic tiger]

sure, why does it check every single mod (just a guess?) when reloading lua in the main menu though

[primal mesa]

I have seen other games implement it, an example would be Don't Starve Together which also uses lua for modding

[civic tiger]

and this is without "reloading" the stuff that you have to get out of pz to update (iirc)

[primal mesa]

but you would know better than I would for sure

[torpid tendon]

Yea its an issue with 42.15

[primal mesa]

I know

scroll up further and I link the bug report ❤️

[torpid tendon]

Oh yea

[fast parcel]

i don't have any experience to comment on how DST implements it, it could be a lot easier depending on how exactly a game uses lua, but in pz as it is it's really not viable, in a lot of cases it would just break the mod which defeats the point

[primal mesa]

💯 totally fair!

[civic tiger]

fair, though one of the other points would be nice to have - in-game (in-menu) mod updating, ex. if a mod updates in the workshop and you're in-game (in-menu), the mod won't update until you leave the game, wait for it to download, then open pz again -- this is kind of frustrating to play around with, so it'd be best if you could just be able to update them inside the game when not in a save / server

[fast parcel]

agreed!

[civic tiger]

not sure how much of it applies here, do pz mods download while you're playing?

my memory might be faulty on this, that's why I'm asking

it kind of ties to my point above -- if it doesn't download, it should download (reduced bandwidth if necessary, I guess, optional) then when you exit the save / server you should have it right there neat and ready to activate.

[surreal lava]

https://tenor.com/view/i-wish-it-was-christmas-today-shaking-playing-guitar-keyboard-gif-19176881

[fast parcel]

i don't think they do download no

[civic tiger]

yup

basically this all comes from a place of "the less steps I have to take / hoops I need to jump through the better" user experience pov

[misty jackal]

Hello! I'm kinda new to the discord and wanted to say hi 👋

I'm having an issue preventing me from accessing my save, but I think I've found a solution in the tech support area. I'm psyching myself up to try it

[primal mesa]

speaking of saving, I'd love steam cloud saving to be a thing

[civic tiger]

fair

[grizzled elk]

I think the issue with that is that zomboid saves are pretty large in comparison to other games

[oak kestrel]

*Flashbacks to running out of storage space on large Minecraft servers*

[grizzled elk]

Minecraft def takes the cake for largest save file size haha

[oak kestrel]

in older versions it needed to generate a line of chunks from the center chunk to wherever you were, so if you crossed a long distance in the nether and then popped back out into the overworld at like 100k blocks then you could cause the server to attempt to generate a massive line of chunks and crash the whole thing

fun times

(obviously they patched this)

[primal mesa]

oh yea that makes sense!

actually... looking into it

you can have 100gb of steamcloud storage (on a per game basis) allegedly

[left edge]

So, 1 save?

[primal mesa]

I have never had a save larger than a few gbs I don't think?

[arctic orbit]

my longest running save (a month and a half) is only 100mb, if youre not running like hundreds of saves (why would you anyway) id say steam cloud saving is ok to have

[manic tapir]

maybe still yes yes? would be glorious for steamdeck

[grizzled elk]

Even 100mb can be quite a lot for save files

[primal mesa]

a lot of it is cells generated and items on the ground if I recall correctly, so the less you move around smaller your save will be. As an example I have been to a lot of the towns in this run, and I am only 19(?) days in

[pale pecan]

ooh so thats why my save takes increasingly longer to load

[amber glade]

why not add a 10 years later preset to the game officially it would just be even more intense erosion

[vapid belfry]

is 42.12 going to be returned in to the beta tabs?

and when? and is it going to be pulled again in future? IE how many more security patches are needed

[primal mesa]

they have a many years later challenge mode in the works so it is definitely possible

[primal mesa]

no

[primal mesa]

and undetermined, these two have been found by modders, so if people find more then they will do more security patches

[vapid belfry]

source

"While some older legacy builds were removed temporarily for security patches, 42.12 was designated as a version that can be returned to for stability or mod compatibility."

so what has changed since then and where is the announcement from developers?

[primal mesa]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92891-updated-2026-03-20-important-security-updates/

[vapid belfry]

Sully, can you confirm if 42.12 legacy is gone forever?

[primal mesa]

any paticular reason you want 42.12 to come back? I imagine you have a save going or specific mod?

[vapid belfry]

yes i have mods and i have made my own mod which took forever

i have a long save game

i have 42.12 backed up. i can play it right now if i want

i am asking because its the correct thing to do and others do not have back ups and were not given notice

[primal mesa]

makes sense

hard to give notice when a vulnerability is found though sadly, they have to act quickly to mitigate any potential damage that could be caused by it

and then going back and patching older versions takes resources away from the current build going on which slows everything down

[vapid belfry]

it is bad practice to have an unstable build, various betas and then abritrarily remove them, security reason or not, if u cannot return them. People invested time,a more valuable resource than cash into something,to mkae it for naught is morally wrong and bad from a business standpoint,further reinforced from the terrible business standpoint of taking eons to release updates. Which compounds the frustration

[vapid belfry]

but thats the worrying thing

WHAT is taking so long?

this games development is off the charts in terms of how long it takes

[primal mesa]

what do you mean? we did just get a new version 10 days ago plus hotfixes

[vapid belfry]

the general time it takes to go through each build. 40-41-42-43 et

[primal mesa]

ah I see

they are not like most dev teams in that they have no crunch time, so it is at their pace, and they release things when they deem them ready for release

[vapid belfry]

nobody likes the "every few weeks" minor changes that break saves and mods

[primal mesa]

this is also not unity or unreal engine, they have to build everything from scratch

[vapid belfry]

true, perhaps they should scale back their scope then and create realistic goals and deadlines

[primal mesa]

Eh, I think it is fine - there are playable versions and there is no need to limit scope, or create deadlines when you have perpetual development imo

[fast parcel]

the unstable build is unstable, if you want stability play on the stable build

[primal mesa]

exactly

I am gonna be that guy and say that I have been here since the beginning, I know the length of time it has taken - if they had limited the scope and had deadlines then we wouldn't have 99% of the features we have today it would be a very well polished tech demo that looks like this

[solar rapids]

@fast parcel Please check the private chat with me

[dawn viper]

They haven't set any deadlines at least to the public other than b42 progress is going well and may end soon

[civic tiger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0eW6Zn-HxRA?is=OEijFKKBl38co9zh

[exotic bone]

This is covered in the announcement:

Unfortunately, due the extensive work required to patch these vulnerabilities, legacy versions will remain unavailable. We would love to be able to bring them back eventually, however our team's priority needs to be Build 42 stable, and future content updates. We are exploring ways to safely reintroduce legacy versions in a way that does not impact future development, but we are unable to make any commitments at this time.

[novel moss]

https://klipy.com/gifs/but-did

[sand wyvern]

I think its best to focus on moving forward

[novel moss]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-ever-look-back-van-heflin-film-noir-lizabeth-scott-1946-gif-23712516

[oak kestrel]

can anyone recommend me a hairstyle mod that's working for 42.15?

and compatible with Tomb's

actually it seems that Spongie's works now

[amber glade]

spongies

[amber glade]

👍

[crimson skiff]

Just wanted to say, the annotated maps are great. I just realized that if you hit the rotate map button so north is up, it overlays exactly on the world map. Beautiful!

[fossil wyvern]

I love the prioritization of moving forward (B42). As a 41 MP player (on a Mac Studio via Rosetta2) 41.78.16 performance with all the options on was fine, 41.78.18 performance is unplayable (4-5 FPS). I absolutely KNOW it is how the Java compiled codebase and Rosetta2 are interacting, and NOT asking for a "fix." Just curious if a different embedded runtime or compiler/compiler option set was used?

[oak kestrel]

all of a sudden the mod icons are white?

aaand they're not anymore

strange

[lime anchor]

Hi

[tacit star]

No, not that White!

[verbal trail]

guys sorry i have doubt, but the black metal fences, the tall ones, are breakable or not?

[tacit star]

They were not in B41

[verbal trail]

and i the 42?

cause in mp zeds seems like not to attack it

[arctic orbit]

if a big amount of zeds team up they can break it

[verbal trail]

thanks so actually all the world fences are breakable, so i have to report the bug in the mp about the zeds don't attack the tall black fences

[arctic orbit]

they definetly are breaking the tall black ones, just slowly

if you use a mod to check the health of stuff youd see they have massive amounts of hp that are decaying slowly

[verbal trail]

what i mean is that the zds litteraly don't attack the fences at all

in mp

[arctic orbit]

even if they see you?

[verbal trail]

yes and actually they are prefering make a turn around instead of attacking the fences

all the fences

[arctic orbit]

idk how zed pathworking works, do you have the fence closed?

maybe they prioritize going around it

and if they cant find a way to you they start attacking the fence

[verbal trail]

by some videos they don't follow a path they just attack the fences

to grab the palyers

but now in a server all the zombies were avoiding the fences and going around

[primal mesa]

Is it your server? Do you have fence breaking enabled?

[verbal trail]

ah no, it's not my server, there is an option for breakable fences? @primal mesa

[primal mesa]

yes

[verbal trail]

@primal mesa ah ok thanks a lot, that mean the owner told me was an hardcore server but looks like it's not

[primal mesa]

no problem!

[sacred roost]

Guys I’m on the newest version unstable and when I start a multiplayer world there’s no zombies

I may get lucky when I spawn in but those are the only zombies I get

No mods activated

Does this have to do with the new modes

[primal mesa]

I launched one previously with the default servertest settings and it had zombies, I would double check the settings file (or create a new one)

seems to be fine here

[lime anchor]

I think I found another bug

[primal mesa]

!bugreport

[rotund osprey]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

Please be sure to follow our Bug Reporting Guide to ensure the team receive all necessary information to investigate your issue. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-reporting-guide-updated-05082025/

[sand wyvern]

"Jesse, I found a bug"

[viscid coral]

Yeah, that's intentional afaik. Zed pathfinding was changed in 42.12 or .13 iirc. As Snowed said, they search for a path around objects / fences first and prioritize that path now and will only start breaking the fence if there's no other / easier way to reach you within a certain amount of tiles

[verbal trail]

Ok cause like they had to walk a lot before get to the first available entrance, most of them where just standing there waiting without moving, so I think the breakable fence were turned off

[primal mesa]

There are exceptions to that rule though, as an example: the fence for Guns Unlimited should be breakable but the zombies that spawn behind the fence outside of GU will take the looooong path around and go for the entrance

but yea what you are describing sounds like breakable fences is turned off

[verbal trail]

i don't know but i know zombies where standing in front of the fences without moving and without trying to reach me, walking or attacking the fences, while i was behind shooting them

[torpid tendon]

lol

[jolly granite]

What the apocalypse mode really needs right now is a change to zombie mechanics. They should not be capable of pathfinding around fences and should always move in a straight line to the player they see or remember. Also their memory of the player should not give them omnipotence to the location of the player. Once they can no longer see the player, as long as they still remember the player, they should just continue to move in a straight line in the direction they last saw the player

[torn imp]

I'm not sure they're actually breakable, they won't attack even the shooting range/junkyard area's fences when there's no other path to you, they just stand there.

It's basically an impenetrable fortress for zombies

[primal mesa]

shooting range and junkyard are the reinforced fences, same ones that prisons use

same with the muldraugh police station

give me a moment to drive to westpoint and I can show you normal chainlink is breakable under normal conditions

even with having a way to path around they will still break through the fence if they find it takes less time normally

I had set off the alarm trying to into twiggy's and the area was swarmed, so I brought out the shotgun and cleared

almost all of them piled up on the fence until they breached it instead of pathing around

and when we look in debug at GU fence, it is a standard chainlink, but they are pathing around to get to their destination

with pathfinding lines enabled

[tacit star]

I suspect that there's some "it takes X cycles to break fence" versus "it take Y cycles to walk around" logic happening

[tacit star]

Or perhaps that fence is not marked breakable?

[primal mesa]

I checked that, it is

this is the one at stendo's to compare

maybe I should submit a bug report on this

[torn imp]

It's a breakable fence but isn't thumpable (meaning Zombies can't bash their heads against it)

[primal mesa]

if you look at the stendo one it says the same thing

yet in the video they are thumping

[torn imp]

That's weird lmao

[primal mesa]

it also says Should be Zombie Thumpable for both

[torn imp]

I wonder which one's the bug, I used to use a mod that made certain player-made fences not thumpable. They were still breakable, but zombies would path around them.

[primal mesa]

I would say GU's fence is the bugged one, normal chainlinks are supposed to be breakable

[torn imp]

Makes sense

And honestly they should be breakable, as it is it's broken

[primal mesa]

for sure

[torn imp]

You can stand oustide the fence here and blast the zombies as they stand still, since you're just out of range for them to path to the entrance

And otherwise there's no way for zombies to come in, so it's really easy to make an impenetrable fort

[primal mesa]

mmm I was having them path out on my apoc playthrough when I sieged GU

oh on the otherside, nm

[torn imp]

Yeah

On the road

They'll wander up close to the fence, won't thump it, and you can just shoot them

And more will pile in

[primal mesa]

I was blasting here and they were pathing from inside to the outside, and from the back fence all the way around

[torn imp]

Yeah from there they'll path to you still, lemme grab a better pic

[tacit star]

Had a similar issue at GU. I have a picture but cannot post it.

[primal mesa]

post it in showcase!

#1162438206516645948

[tacit star]

I can't make a thread there either. sigh

[primal mesa]

oh weird! 😔

rank needs to be higher I suppose

[tacit star]

Apparently I'm the noobest noob

If you make a thread, I can post perhaps

[primal mesa]

everyone gotta start somewhere

[tacit star]

That's my experience, too. (My picture is equivalent)

Also how do I rank up?

[torn imp]

Just takes time, lots of chatting

It took me a few months to get image perms but I wasn't chatting every day

[primal mesa]

just gotta chat yea

[primal mesa]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1485494031860502568

[primal mesa]

gotcha gotcha

ok I am going to make a bugreport and break dreams

[torn imp]

Lmao

[elder sleet]

is there any way to make characters hungrier in the sandbox? food feels basically optional rn 🤔

[manic tapir]

under character i think there is a setting to make stats decrease faster you could try that, i used to do it to make it slower

[inner dew]

the trailer want blood

[grizzled elk]

The ground was hungry

[tacit star]

Stealth trailer. It's what the USAF uses to haul around parts for the B-2.

[safe epoch]

PHEN-228 confirmed

[fallow scroll]

Heya

[safe arrow]

👋

[pale pecan]

👋

[gray frigate]

👋

[primal mesa]

👋

[pastel shuttle]

👋

[gray frigate]

[summer fox]

Heard a rumour from a little birdie that it's patch day 👀

[novel moss]

👋

[hollow radish]

👋

[tepid cape]

You know strange birds. LOL

[civic tiger]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3691686404&searchtext=

@TIS!!!

[pale pecan]

@TIGS!!*

that mods neat

i just wonder how it would affect performance

[earnest lance]

I use wondering zeds

[civic tiger]

What are they pondering

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[primal mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-zombies-simpsons-brains-no-brainer-gif-16903969

[torpid tendon]

Hearty appetite for greater food requirement

[primal mesa]

also Fast Metabolism!

[torpid tendon]

I take hearty appetite since its just free points to me

[primal mesa]

combine those two and you will constantly have to find food

it is pretty great

[torpid tendon]

It makes the game a lil harder

[elder sleet]

yea ik but it still seems like there's a disconnect between what's indicated by the moodle vs what my character actually "needs" and the end result is my character can basically survive on some snacks every 2-3 days instead of needing to actually cook and eat solid meals

[torpid tendon]

technically they can

but not for long periods

[elder sleet]

im finding most of my food rots before i get a chance to even eat it lol

[torpid tendon]

look at your weight

[elder sleet]

weight is fine, 79 rn with two up-chevrons cuz i ate a box of cereal 2 in game days ago lol

[primal mesa]

yea it is all about the weight, I ignore the moodle unless I am doing something specific

[elder sleet]

yeah the nutrition system still wants you eating regular balanced meals, but the moodle doesnt reflect that the way it did in 41 so it feels like a disconnect

[torpid tendon]

peckish can be ignored

hungry actually has an effect

[torpid tendon]

then ur good

[elder sleet]

and at the same time food seems too "effective" in the sense that i can be "hungry enough to eat a horse" and eat an apple or a granola bar and the moodle is like "this is fine" lol

[torpid tendon]

yea

make a mod for it

idk

stat decrease in sandbox set to fast

[elder sleet]

yea im trying that, not sure if its enough to eliminate the offset

[torpid tendon]

maybe a mod that alters default ingame hunger values?

if that's what you are talking about

like how much hunger food reduces

[sharp rivet]

Someone dug pretty deep in Project Zomboid code, and found a replicable issue with your bandaged character suddenly becoming naked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/Rx8PT2M9FT

It has to do with item overflow, and that some values can add up to more than 128, which can overflow into the negatives.

They were not able to register a new user account to report their bug findings on the official forum. This is the best they can do.

[jolly granite]

This is true. If you only eat when the character is hungry you won't need to eat much. You will lose weight super fast this way though. It may not seem like the character needs much food, but if you are trying to maintain weight with normal or high activity levels you will need to eat a lot of food

[elder sleet]

yea would just be nice if the moodle reminders aligned better with it. would also be nice if nutrition also included like... vitamins etc, i should get some kind of penalty for eating nothing but chips and cereal while killing hundreds of zombs a day lol

at least give me scurvy ;[

[torn imp]

Interesting

The outdatedunstable branch is the version prior to the latest security updates

unstable is 42.15.3, outdatedunstable is 42.15.2

[sharp rivet]

Yes

[exotic bone]

No actually. Security updates were pushed to 42.15.2 and the version number wasn't incremented. A couple bugs were fixed as part of a hotfix which then resulted in an increment, and this was pushed to unstable only.

[torn imp]

Ahhhhh ok, thanks for the explanation!

[hollow radish]

https://tenor.com/view/oceansjonas-bear-in-the-big-blue-house-sniffing-smelling-gif-9077831805310939164

I smell 42.16 today

Bet

[odd wigeon]

[sand wyvern]

Sorry, that was me

[civic tiger]

Update in 2 weeks

[pale pecan]

are you eating the code produced by the indie game store?

it would make sense why itd be delayed then

[sharp rivet]

*Slaps $0 on the table*

[verbal trail]

sorry lads, i saw now new mod on the workshop which make the water from wells safe to drink but it's already safe to drink or not?

[sharp rivet]

Don't install mods that try to fix already-resolved problems. Those mods tend to break the game in various ways (incorrect actions, items glitching weirdly, etc.)

They are there for older builds. It does not apply to you if you have newer builds.

[verbal trail]

that why i was asking i often drink from wells and never died or got sick this mod is for 42,15.3

[sharp rivet]

It's already safe to drink water from wells.

[verbal trail]

i was thinking i just not noticed if the devs made water wells tainted

ok thanks

[sharp rivet]

That would be a bug if it did occur in recent builds, so you should report that if you experience it.

[verbal trail]

no i was jsut a bit away form the game like the ,14 and,15 so i din't know if somenthing changed about it but thanks

[sharp rivet]

Ah ok.

[verbal trail]

it's just a strange mod so

[sharp rivet]

You will tend to see mods like that over the course of the Unstable releases.

You just got to be on top of things when new patch notes come out.

[bold hedge]

tst

[sharp rivet]

tst failed.

[pale pecan]

tet

[bold hedge]

lol im just want to follow this forum to keep me in touch

sorry for bothering

[verbal trail]

actaully it willbe interesting mechanic where there is a possibility of tainted wells, like when in TWD a zombie fell in the well and was unusable

[sharp rivet]

Can you actually dump corpses into wells, at least in the latest Unstable release build?

I never tried this before, but who knows how deep the game goes.

[manic tapir]

youre not bothering

https://tenor.com/view/pat-good-job-patpat-gif-25554349

[sharp rivet]

Wait, when did you became #2? Where's #1?

[manic tapir]

naskar is 1 , and its mod abuse

https://tenor.com/view/mod-abuse-muting-hollow-purple-jjk-meme-gif-7848230016502705202

[exotic bone]

wasn't that like a month ago?

[sharp rivet]

Yeah, it's not April 1st yet.

[manic tapir]

man i dont even know what day it is half the time lol

i didnt even realize april was next week, what the helllll

[sharp rivet]

Time flies, I know.

[manic tapir]

i dont want to be a fly

[grizzled elk]

Time is going by very quickly, which is both a blessing and a curse

[viscid coral]

Frrr, March just flew by

[tacit star]

The computation scales with the number of players. On popular servers (with dozens of players) this could cripple servers.

@exotic bone Next release announcement* should be on 2026-04-01 .
(* Not necessarily released on that same day. Just to mess with players.)

[primal mesa]

from my understanding of that mod in it's current form is that it is SP only, no MP - but that said it makes sense that it would be pretty taxing in MP

[tacit star]

Yes, but the Steam page has the author saying "Multiplayer is not supported but planned for a furter version."

[primal mesa]

for sure

[exotic bone]

Yeah... while trolling would be hilarious... I suspect it would not be well received lol

[manic tapir]

lol

[safe arrow]

TIGS adopts an actual orange raccoon as the company mascot

[ionic sinew]

A little speculation, what new features do you guys think will arrive in b42.16?

[manic tapir]

i would like to put jellybeans on my hamburgers

[tacit star]

Now instead of spontaneous nudity, spontaneous extra clothes!

[little falcon]

Any annoying b42 SP bugs to be aware of

Might re visit it

[ionic sinew]

I really liked the addition of guns, I hope they keep adding many more, it's great!

[oak kestrel]

I must worship this

[primal mesa]

I only worship the one true god

Spiffo be praised

[sand wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/2001-apes-monolith-gif-1664011066935987694

[oak kestrel]

I went to Menards (midwest hardware store and midlife crisis playground) yesterday and there were like 8 sledgehammers. Meanwhile in this damn game you're better off grinding blacksmithing to forge one.

[sacred current]

I call it, update next week, before Easter

[exotic bone]

I hope so, I'm off that week

[gray frigate]

we gonna get a thursdoid called Easter FestivitieZ and they’re gonna add bows and horses ❤️‍🩹

[sand wyvern]

Better not to

Updates during a holiday have a good chance of breaking something

[gray frigate]

[tepid cape]

Exactly!

[torpid tendon]

that would be peak

[sacred current]

If they release it on Monday, there will be still time to hotfix. Also, the game is currently broken for controllers and splitscreen so there is not a lot left to break

[sand wyvern]

Well that shits for console

Nobody cares about that garbage

[amber glade]

Sully are you good with pcs and fixing games

Because ive ran into a very interesting issue on steam.

[sand wyvern]

Sully is the social one

Not a tech support

[exotic bone]

being described as "the social one" is a scary thought. I am probably the least social person you will ever meet

but yes, tech support should be done in #1019767076094758924

[gray frigate]

the social one speaks

[manic tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[sand wyvern]

I mean social in the sense of being in charge of it

[amber glade]

to be honest it isnt about pz

just cant find anyone who knows alot about steam games and i remember someone saying you had knowledge with coding and other things

my bad for asking here tho you are right

👍

[unborn sky]

tech support request: played other games than PZ, my leftmost display almost caught fire out of sudden and filled home with burnt plastic smell

[manic tapir]

cause he made the best mod over duh

ever, no not pber

[amber glade]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil4-resident-evil-4-leon-what-who-me-gif-21384378

[exotic bone]

No, if it's not PZ tech support related I might be able to help

[amber glade]

It is pretty weird and something i discovered myself

i would like to talk to you about it

general?

[exotic bone]

ask away

nah here, gen chat sucks

[unborn sky]

this chat sucks too, its not the real containment thread

[amber glade]

on steam all the old resident evil games seem to have the same issue

[manic tapir]

HAH FINALLY

[amber glade]

when you enter a loading screen it causes CPU to massively increase in usage

[manic tapir]

Hey!!!

[amber glade]

the only way to avoid a crash is to play in minimized screen

[unborn sky]

its not, Sully locked the real thread in favor of this 🙁

[manic tapir]

lol

[amber glade]

it uses more cpu in fullscreen

[manic tapir]

i didnt even notice

[amber glade]

It isnt a pc thing because it seems to crash the game itself

[exotic bone]

yeah sounds like something capcom has done

not something normal

[amber glade]

It is an issue on all directx9 games

on the platform even non capcom

Nobody has found a fix other then me last night not on any forums

Its not really a fix tho because its just going into the config and forcing fullscreen off to decrease cpu usage

Ive discovered its most likely the game unable to handle high cpu usage and not my pc unable to handle it

the reason why it crashes may be directx12

[exotic bone]

directx9 is quite old, was that before multithreading was really a thing?

or at least commonly used

[amber glade]

I dont exactly know as this is my first time since windows7 using directx9 games

[exotic bone]

there was a fix for Silent Hill 2 that would let you run on multiple cores... I wonder if the same fix woudl work here

[amber glade]

directx12 has a feature that may be causing this problem

It causes 50% or more of gpu usage to be cpu instead

to “add compatibility with directx9 and directx11”

[amber glade]

because directx12 doesnt have the same resources these games relied on

im running windows 11 as well

[amber glade]

it has no known fix and nobody figured this out other then me

[exotic bone]

I'm not familiar with the issue. I haven't noticed an issue like this, and can't recall the last time I played a dx9 game

[amber glade]

In 24 years of these games having pc ports

[amber glade]

is a new issue caused by directx12 and windows 11 if i had to say

and their poor “backwards compatibility” attempts

every single directx9 game has the same crashes in the same ways

Always a loading screen or starting the game

And it happens due to a massive increase in cpu usage

[amber glade]

only reason i found out is running diagnostics and using task manager to look at what resources were being used during the gameplay

[exotic bone]

Quite possible, I'm still on Win10, so wouldn't know if there's something up with Win 11 specifically anyway

[amber glade]

do u have any directx9 games

you can check if they require it on their store pages

[exotic bone]

none come to mind

[manic tapir]

i tried playing deus ex human revo and it wouldnt run on win 11 , i dont know if that is related lol

it was annoying

[amber glade]

try my fix real quick

Go into app data config and change fullscreen to off

then try running it.

if possible have task manager open and look at ur cpu usage

ive tried every resident evil game that utilizes directx9 and this fix worked

[manic tapir]

ill have to try it laters its not installed, was like last year when i tried getting it to run, but it ran fine on my steamdeck

[amber glade]

its not a fix just a compromise

[amber glade]

steamdeck doesnt have this issue due to being linux

[manic tapir]

[gray frigate]

Mods banish him to the real containment chat

[amber glade]

no known fix exists which is saddening

only this compromise i found

[unborn sky]

a real containment chat requires a patch...you may be onto something

[gray frigate]

TIGS emailed me today saying the patch will be released within the week

we keep in touch

[unborn sky]

you look like a smart dog

[gray frigate]

must be the glasses

[grizzled elk]

Doesnt Project Zomboid use OpenGL? Or does it use directx only on Windows?

I was taking a look at the graphics recently and PZs graphics API is ancient haha

[amber glade]

scroll up it isnt about pz

[grizzled elk]

Ah, my b

[manic tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/therethere-feel-better-headpat-headpats-headpatsduck-gif-2423808354704986102

[brittle marsh]

IS there a way for your saved servers not to be removed when you switch from B42 back to B41?

[fast parcel]

if you use the -cachedir launch option you can have separate caches for b42 and b41 so nothing gets reset or messed up by switching versions

[brittle marsh]

ooooo

[novel moss]

https://tenor.com/view/update-gif-17786277049893529020

[ionic sinew]

I can't stand the wait anymore either, an estimated date would be great.

[novel moss]

soonTM

[safe arrow]

they already gave an estimate, but turns out it wasn’t right

[brittle marsh]

more wait = more fix

more fix = more better game

more better game = happy gamers

[sand wyvern]

Gamers will not be happy

[safe arrow]

I'm pretty sure that's why they're referring to the players as unstable during this time ||||

[manic tapir]

lol

[oak kestrel]

is there a place in riverside to get propane that's not the gated community?

[tacit star]

Check the warehouse SW of Riverside. It is the smaller black building.

[oak kestrel]

if you're talking about the factory one, I was just there and didn't find propane tanks. Did find a sledgehammer though!

[tacit star]

Yes. The factory is full of wood and maybe steel sheets. The warehouse has tools and whatnot, sometimes including propane tanks.

[oak kestrel]

good news, I found one!

[tacit star]

Take the road from that house west. When the road turns north, the first house on the left has a gas grill, too.

(I think)

[oak kestrel]

I did not realize the backyard propane tanks were not randomized

goated, thanks!

[tacit star]

There is a gas grill due north of that house (the one you posted a picture of). Not the first one, the second one due north.

[oak kestrel]

well I also found a survivor house so I guess that takes priority

[tacit star]

There is also the slim possibility that the the "U Store" storage lockers could have tanks. (South of the warehouse you raided already).

[oak kestrel]

yeah I tried going there but it was swarmed

[sharp rivet]

Floating bodies when tossing corpses off the side of the building's roofs.

What mod is breaking the game? I have too much suspicions to doubt this.

[pale pecan]

they are just adamant on being near you

[tacit star]

Those zombies are so ugly the Earth rejects them.

[gray frigate]

update today trust

[gray frigate]

do my eyes decieve

its maildeaddrop

[tacit star]

Yup

[gray frigate]

long time no see

[tacit star]

Yeah not since ECV

[gray frigate]

yeah so like 2024ish

Actually maybe a bit further I played on your TEAM server at some point

[tacit star]

Maybe. I still have it, but it's dead.

[gray frigate]

any plans to make it again on B42?

[tacit star]

It is running B42 unstable

But I think I'm the only player who has ever joined it

[gray frigate]

ah i see, hopefully itll repopulate during b42 stable

you guys seemed to have had a good thing going

[unborn sky]

@novel moss how long must Sully rule over you, you gotta save some dignity for next patch

[amber glade]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-blue-eyes-gif-12331387607190349579

[pale pecan]

beautiufl plue eyes

[elfin moon]

i deleted all my mods and redownloaded some and my watches arent working :( they disappear when i put them on and give an error

im guessing it could be an issue with clothing mods?

[pale pecan]

#mod_support this might help you mor

[shrewd bluff]

Hey, guys! I'm playing the Extinction for the first time. Can zombies open windows? I was in Echo Creek Church, closed a window, heard zombies knocking on it, and then the window opened and they all came rushing in. Is it a bug or they really can open windows/doors in this mode?

[manic tapir]

For extinction the cognition is set to random so yar, they can open doors and windows

[shrewd bluff]

Thanks

[novel moss]

I forgot my pfp hahahahah

[manic tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

[oak kestrel]

interesting bug I found. Of course I won't report it because I have mods, but I could see this being a vanilla issue. I'm able to attach the broken cleaver to my belt but when I try to equip it it just goes back to having empty hands.

[oak kestrel]

oh I think it happened when I sharpened the cleaver when it has a single condition

like this one

[dreamy narwhal]

If I start playing with my friend on this version, can we move our save to Build 42 when it comes out? Because I’ve been waiting since the first day Build 42 was announced and I can’t hold out any longer.

[unborn sky]

Any patch can break saves on Unstable, nothing is guaranteed, likely to break when stable comes

[dreamy narwhal]

I learned it, but thanks for the answer anyway, I'll continue waiting for the release.

[unborn sky]

as will we

[queen cape]

ok number 2

[manic tapir]

Erm , this my channell shh

[sand wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-mike-myers-bathroom-stalls-number-two-who-do-you-work-for-gif-3520457

[civic tiger]

update this week

[sand wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[oak kestrel]

hey it's Sephiroth

[oak kestrel]

am I going crazy or do you recover endurance faster sitting on the ground vs sitting in a car?

[pale pecan]

car doesnt register you as the big sitter

[oak kestrel]

gotcha. Very realistic.

[amber glade]

Its the opposite sometimes

i still think laying down should recover endurance the quickest

they added laying down in b42 but its got like 0 benifits

[clever dagger]

anyone know what its means when it can’t find the library folder and no response to the slave server?

when starting a modded MP server

I have gotten zero responses and not a single person I asked knows

[oak kestrel]

wait what? how do you do that?

[amber glade]

lay on a bed

or bench

[oak kestrel]

ohhh that\

[oak kestrel]

btw are there set areas where large car pileups can spawn? I need one to get welding up but I'm out in Echo Creek rn

[manic tapir]

muldrag has a couple car junk yards and the highway to westpoint has some and the bridge going to lv on the right of westpoint

[oak kestrel]

but nothing you know of further west?

gotcha

[torn imp]

Random orange raccon encounter when

[oak kestrel]

can't butcher a rabbit?

idk if this rabbit is different from the ones you'd find in the wild. This is one off somebody's table

[spark cradle]

im pretty sure butchering in the crafting menu is for animals you caught via traps. try dropping it then right clicking its model, it probably acts like a deers corpse.

[untold storm]

I might be wrong, but judging by the rabbit's appearance, it must have come from search mode.

And it seems to me that with this rabbit, it's impossible to skin it or do anything with it, except cook it and eat it as is. ^^

[surreal lava]

Different item, Base.DeadRabbit vs Base.CorpseAnimal, similar to the rats you find already dead inside dumpsters

[oak kestrel]

I found it as a random table story item

I've been able to butcher birds and rats this way. Looks like a pretty simple fix, just an addition to the recipe

(which means we should see this fixed sometime in 2027 at the earliest)

[hollow radish]

https://tenor.com/view/oceansjonas-bear-in-the-big-blue-house-sniffing-smelling-gif-9077831805310939164

42.16 today

[fluid osprey]

I was waiting for your to say this today

[hollow radish]

Hehe

[fluid osprey]

I dream an April fools day release

[hollow radish]

42 stable on april foolsss

[minor seal]

Approved. +Stable

[summer fox]

Happy patch day everyone!

[tepid cape]

Curious if something is happening today.

[pale pecan]

im cooking chicken kidneys

[vague geode]

is ther really a patch today? plz dnt play with my emotions 😫

[manic tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/coral-gif-10583155

[sacred current]

Tomorrow, trust

[hidden hound]

What if not? How can we trust you after that

[serene matrix]

Love being in Aus and getting such advanced warning from discordites of impending holidays

[sacred current]

The same way you can trust me now

[hidden hound]

I don’t

[queen cape]

[manic tapir]

Lol go back to gen fart

[sacred current]

Understandable. That's why I need to gain trust

And I can't lose it if it's already at 0

[elfin moon]

I just opened my chicken hutch and slowly one by one the chickens disappeared like they were leaving the hutch but they didn’t pop up outside of it

https://tenor.com/view/dog-mask-gif-10635347690073820963

[fluid sigil]

🙂