42.15.0 UNSTABLE Released

[deep prairie]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92435-42150-unstable-released/

[inner tundra]

dammn

WAKE UP PEOPLE

[hollow heron]

You are the only dedicated player, none else is interested

[inner tundra]

So true, where's my prize

[hollow heron]

You get to play the patch before others

Don't thank me, we released it now while people are at work and schools

[inner tundra]

lol

[sly fossil]

Oh hi

[worn knot]

okay im summoned

[vernal sun]

[worn knot]

didnt even realize there was an update until my save warned me 😭

[sly fossil]

Of course I have a house showing the day the patch drops

[somber zinc]

[TO ADD: Line about the security vulnerability reported by "copiumsawsed"]

[summer kraken]

@deep prairie fail

[inner tundra]

L

[somber zinc]

LDan

[opaque maple]

NICE NEW WEAPONS!!

[keen wyvern]

NEW WEAPONS?

[somber zinc]

Also not sure if just me but the way it's posted or formatted forces me to scroll horizontally on the forums

[sly fossil]

No more respawns in apoc? Amazing

[deep prairie]

No one saw anything

[scenic sky]

I sure didn't

[deep prairie]

@somber zinc Yeah you're right, I'll try to fix it. I wasn't able to see that line on desktop at all until I edited the post for some reason

[stuck fog]

Removed ability to sleep on toilets
Devs obviously never been drunk before smh my head

[normal wing]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[hollow heron]

You had one job

[normal wing]

Me and @magic dove Didn't even get a chance to divine this

[summer kraken]

I mean, what's to divine? We told you it was coming

[hollow heron]

The most important part of the patch and he fails

irish...

[inner tundra]

epic stuff

[opaque maple]

i wonder how many UNSTABLE versons we will get before release....

[keen wyvern]

Removed ability to sleep on toilets
Take it back.

[inner tundra]

^^^

[somber zinc]

usually how ever many it takes. 41.78.16 much?

[inner tundra]

Why was that removed, it was more realistic than sleeping on a chair lol

[opaque maple]

hopefully it won't go over double digits lol

[somber zinc]

garbo patch, can't roleplay myself anymore

[somber zinc]

42.99.107

[keen wyvern]

Only in Kentucky will my trucker character Billy Pingus pass out on a porcelain throne after getting virtually shit faced

[vernal sun]

only if youre drunk

[tight raven]

hopefully the Zombie migration was fixed lets gooo,

[keen wyvern]

TRUEE

[sly fossil]

Noooooooooo

[normal wing]

Excuse you, misattribution of cause and untestable predictions are the foundation of divination

[worn knot]

watch someone modding it back in

[vernal sun]

IWBUMS people

[livid horizon]

Added .glb for model file watcher

I can die happy now

Celebrate the file size optimization

[hollow heron]

Do you sleep on toilets irl?

[molten coyote]

ILY

[molten coyote]

@hollow heron @summer kraken

[vernal sun]

if im drunk

[sly fossil]

I have known a person or two who have passed out on a toilet, usually when incredibly intoxicated

[gritty sierra]

No way it's so early!

[normal wing]

fixed gas stations woohoo!

new pew pews!

[hollow heron]

Correction, you sleep face in toilet when drunk

[vernal sun]

🫧🫧

[heavy oracle]

new guns?? holy cow

[gritty sierra]

It's beautiful 😭

So many good changes

[keen wyvern]

Good work as always fellas, glad to see so many bug fixes, especially for our modders! :)

[sullen bison]

so at which point can we expect Stable branch ?

just asking because i hoped mp was the final stuff but i guess not so will it be 42.20 or more like 42.80

[vernal sun]

Soon

[sullen bison]

[livid horizon]

They said we're approaching stable sooner rather than later

[sullen bison]

im kinda very positiv about it because the last 2 patches were more balancing and fixing rather then adding new stuff

[vernal sun]

im heading to stendo for the stendo story

[livid horizon]

Yeah Im curious about that

[sullen bison]

Soon is a very strechty word you know

Soon can mean next month or next spring

[livid horizon]

Go play something else in the meantime, then

My guess is a few months

[summer kraken]

Soon™

[keen wyvern]

In an earlier blog post it was described that TIS was in the "final charge" of fixes and whatnot to get to B42 Stable, hence the tons of fixes we've seen today

So I'm feeling optimistic :)

[sullen bison]

i hope as well that this is a sign of them packing everything up for stable

[livid horizon]

I need to make a horror game named Soon™

[keen wyvern]

Is the monster gonna be scope creep?

[tawdry galleon]

I added my feedback on the new blog post, SOME NEW THINGS!

#1480569786281885931 message

[livid horizon]

Ooooo i like that

[sly fossil]

Yes but also falling asleep while sitting on it 😅

[keen wyvern]

Whole house happy today

[slate dawn]

ooooo

[tawdry galleon]

• Garden hoes now have the ability to remove stumps
  In real life, can hoes actually remove stumps?

I would imagine spades or shovels would do, but not hoes.

The heads, I don't think they are built to handle fulcrum leverage. 🤔

• Removed ability to sleep on toilets
  OHHH, this is a nerf.

[hollow heron]

Go to bed earlier

[tawdry galleon]

In real life, I had experienced sleeping on toilets before.

[slate dawn]

I need to try that lol

[tawdry galleon]

Here's a tip: When you wanted to sleep on a toilet, make sure the toilet is an upright tank toilet, the one where the water tank is usually located behind your back when you sit normally.

You need to sit in reverse, so your head can rest on the toilet seat cover, and your arms laid over the water tank cover.

You can grab pillows to sleep as well.

[slate dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-shark-tank-writing-gif-7494974

Thanks

[tawdry galleon]

If the toilet seat cover is lower than the water tank, that's the best toilet.

[slate dawn]

How many pillows do you reccomend?

[tawdry galleon]

Just 1 is suffice.

[slate dawn]

hmm, understandable

[tawdry galleon]

You have no idea the pains of trying to land my first job out of school while crashing at a friend's house. I had to use toilets sometimes.

[slate dawn]

Oh damn

[tawdry galleon]

Ya, job interviews suck in general.

No matter the age.

[sullen bison]

The new game modes are fire but i hope in extinction Sprinters are able to open doors or at least some of them

[slate dawn]

[tawdry galleon]

• Fixed safe-to-eat mushrooms receiving the poison tag if cooked together with poisoned one.
  OOooh, this is interesting.

• Fixed character getting damaged when climbing up/down on the escape rope.
  Finally, rope burns are a thing of a past.

• Fixed double barrel shotgun consuming 2 rounds in one shot.
  OOOOH, a buff! 😄

[fresh dirge]

smdh they can't spell gauge

[ember crown]

Hey anybody know the modifier of the increased speed of reading while sitting?

[tawdry galleon]

I don't think this was exposed as a setting for you to configure.

[ember crown]

ty, do you know the xx% increase in speed? Trying to figure out if taking fast reader is still worth it, or if this makes up some of the difference

[tawdry galleon]

No, I don't see anything specific.

Just the changelogs mentioning about a boost in reading.

[ember crown]

Thank you. I'll do some testing to see if i can discern the difference

[sly fossil]

drunk people don't do that

[frozen niche]

yaya new guns

[hollow heron]

Quit drinking

[fallow sable]

yhis one's BIG

[fallow sable]

yeah they drive

[sly fossil]

I haven't drank since 2019

[scenic sky]

drink more, this way you'll pass out earlier

[sly fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[scenic sky]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B4APOBUpLAs

[slate dawn]

[sly fossil]

ohhhh drinking fast travel confirmed for PZ?

[scenic sky]

i mean, it works irl so i don't see why not

a bit harder would be to implement poland though

[mint lotus]

Idk if you’re still here but are you familiar with my report to you guys? Does this mean we can play again? The security vulnerability

[hollow heron]

You mean this one? https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1478713600821694524

[short kernel]

Prescription glasses fix for foraging! Sweet now I have so many more options for my fit

[mint lotus]

No. I mean the packets handled one

[hollow heron]

Can you link me to your report

[sly fossil]

the text getting cut off kills me inside

on rising

[radiant perch]

!report

[ivory geode]

<:error:1362685517959008287> Command is only available as slash command

Please execute report as slash command.

[radiant perch]

[radiant perch]

Do you have any mods installed in your game? Bug reports are only accepted for games without mods installed.

[sly fossil]

of course not

[hollow heron]

Just select a mode and read it in the ui with Spiffo

[mint lotus]

No I did a ticket and sully answered it and has closed it now. I didn’t want it getting out as it was a pretty big vulnerability

Nettimedaction packets

[sly fossil]

ahhh duffel bug was fixed

excellent 🙂

[summer kraken]

This isn't really a "vulnerability", and what you reported is still being investigated by our multiplayer team.

[mint lotus]

Ok that’s what we were wondering thanks for the clarification

We really just want to be able to play

[sly fossil]

I love this idea so much

[bleak jungle]

In the server configuration menu, many parts of the text options are overlaid and difficult to see, at least in the Spanish version of the base game. Is there a way to make them visible correctly?

[sly fossil]

now I can sit and read for non-rp reasons

[short kernel]

Don't forget your reading glasses!

[sly fossil]

[hollow heron]

Are you using a localization mod?

[sullen rampart]

Son of a

Now I gotta wait AGAIN

[bleak jungle]

Without mods, using the game’s own Spanish language. On the other hand, I checked in English and the same thing happens, although much less severe (the letters kind of stick out of the interface)

[hollow heron]

What's your resolution

[sullen rampart]

Apoc is now the new normal eh?

[sly fossil]

seems that way, pretty wild lol

some friends are gonna hate that - maybe they will give it a try

[acoustic oyster]

Lol how do people find these things haha

[turbid zealot]

Sad life, when are they going to add new auto weapons? I want my as val!

[sullen rampart]

I still really desire the ability to adjust the % of sprinters and the speed

Is that something being considered for sandbox?

[sly fossil]

you already can in sandbox

have been able to since 42.0.0

[slate dawn]

Only a little

[bleak jungle]

1920x1080, I’m attaching a 30‑second video. The same thing also happens in English, although much more mildly. The video is in Spanish using the game’s default translation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuV957darlw

[candid hearth]

Not vanilla obviously, but this mod has always worked well for me:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2716710487

[slate dawn]

Btw does anyone else has the issue where PZ freezes after selecting any trait and profession preset?

[sly fossil]

I figured that was one of the reasons they added the on toilet sitting in the first place tbh, there has been a few times where I have had to sleep in a bathroom in higher pop runs

in the past

[sullen rampart]

Yep thats what I use

[sullen rampart]

So im not sure, but ive been told that isnt as good as the mod that was posted

[sly fossil]

maybe for MP but for SP it works fine

[sullen rampart]

Can I use it to reduce the speed of JUST the sprinters by 50%?

[sly fossil]

ah no you would need a mod for that

[sullen rampart]

And make it so that 10% of the population is sprinters?

[acoustic oyster]

Lol, sleep in tubs when

[sullen rampart]

So there lies my suggestion

[sly fossil]

it is just spawn chance to BE a sprinter

I agree, that should be a thing

[sly fossil]

yes please!!!

[sullen rampart]

The issue is there isnt an up to date mod atm

And I do feel its important

For a sandbox option anywya

I like sprinters, just want them slower

[sly fossil]

also day xx of asking for sleep with friends mod to be implemented as feature in the base game ❤️

[sullen rampart]

Gotta buy them dinner first

Wheres the suggestion box again?

[hollow heron]

Can you screenshot your Font and Resolution settings

[sly fossil]

To be fair, when I was in the UK in like 2013(?) I tried to buy the devs a pint

[bleak jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186379742820184124/1480598165127172227/image.png?ex=69b041fe&is=69aef07e&hm=d70cc7ba88cbca098865de3325869ff6e7071a0e6767bafe1ea490928870395e&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186379742820184124/1480598214586400858/image.png?ex=69b0420a&is=69aef08a&hm=8aa4c364f09eee39ba3119d1a7c2178459dd0d98ebc9d7f5d0e0626c1a06df6b&

[civic mountain]

devs should really add a zombie class between f. shambler and sprinter for people who want more danger but not something as punishing for mistakes as sprinters
called runner obviously

[sullen rampart]

Jogger

[queen breach]

Thanks for the update! Anything in there for disappearing livestock for MP?

[frail igloo]

Were the multiplayer character names not displaying fixed in recent patched? I read but i dont know if its still in the works or fixed, Like showing your characters name instead of steam username

[hollow heron]

Thanks !

[magic dove]

Yeah damm! They definelly abandoned thursdoids as their release day

Which makes sense, was too close to Friday incase there were any game breaking stuff

Mondoid is the new doid

[wooden mulch]

wonderful new firearms types

[sullen rampart]

Now I gotta wait for vfe port to update lol

But thats really cool

[livid horizon]

If I may ask, what was the rationale for limiting reflection to debug mode only? It seems to be breaking the horse mod and the change wasnt mentioned in the changelog

[jaunty rain]

and another W form the indie stone

[wooden mulch]

excellent

[sullen rampart]

Thank you indie store

[acoustic oyster]

indie store thnx

[sullen rampart]

Reddit will be pleased

[livid horizon]

No they wont lol

[acoustic oyster]

lol uh huh

[livid horizon]

Theyre just gonna be mad that mods broke

This is a great update, though, from what Ive seen. Its just gonna take a bit of work from modders to fix things as certain fields are no longer available

[wooden mulch]

new guns are nice

[hollow heron]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92297-updated-addressing-a-security-vulnerability/

[livid horizon]

Yeah, that was my guess

[hollow heron]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92433-modding-migration-guide-4215/

[livid horizon]

Makes sense to keep reflection locked down, hopefully we can find a replacement method

[acoustic oyster]

what does reflection do

[sullen rampart]

Wait where did my

Ohhhhh right I cant use small text

[livid horizon]

Its helpful for makeup application

[tribal crescent]

alright time to see what bugs are in this one

[sullen rampart]

I had said "they will still complain"

[tribal crescent]

it seems like the most stable patch yet which is super nice goodjob guys

[livid horizon]

Found the redditor /s

[acoustic oyster]

im austitic and i cant tell if this is for real or a joke lol

[tribal crescent]

finding bugs is sort of the point of these unstables

[livid horizon]

Sorry I was just kidding, we were just talking about the redditors haha

Prob came off in bad taste 😥

[tribal crescent]

added the /s

[jovial dagger]

not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask - just read through to patch notes and wasnt sure if some of the notes were addressing the current major bug my co-op group is dealing with in the latest (now previous) unstable patch:

we were dealing with zombies desyncing every time we left base leading to frequent crashes.

i saw some stuff in the notes that might've been referencing that but unsure

[tribal crescent]

desync'd zombies is still a problem that b41 had too

sometimes you'd leave chunks and ur teammates and both go into the old chunks at a different time causing zombies to appear only for one client at a time

[jovial dagger]

i should be more specific probably - not just desync, we were having entire hordes of zombies dissapear for some while being visible for tohers

[acoustic oyster]

lots of factors is the server running mods n stuff? whats the server specs, things like that can help when reporting these things.

[tribal crescent]

different internet speeds causes this probably

is the host using ethernet?

[jovial dagger]

its modded but we did manage to diagnose it as a vanilla issue. i probably should've come a bit more prepared ot answer quesitons but i can post later with more info. thanks^^

[tribal crescent]

poor internet connections between members and the host causes desync most

and driving too fast with that bad internet

if you drive super quick and have poor internet you can cause massive desync between you and others

[jovial dagger]

it happens only midway through fighting zombies for us.

[tribal crescent]

are there lots of zombies

[jovial dagger]

we'll be fighting a horde and then zombies start dissapearing on screen. yeah lots of zombies

[tribal crescent]

ohh well that may just be zombies reaching the entity cap

what do you mean by alot

hundreds or thousands

[jovial dagger]

uh whats the second highest zombie pop option? its that one.

but we've had it happen with as little as 20-30

[tribal crescent]

okay then its a bug

even with desync it shouldnt be vaporizing zombies from your screen

[jovial dagger]

sorry, i dont mean to turn this thread into a helpdesk. i can make a post later. thanks yall

[summer kraken]

Desync issues aren't a bug, they are a performance issue. Bugs can lead to desync, but yeah there's no "fix" for desync in general, it's a constant whack-a-mole of optimisations. There are some bugs that people confuse for desync, one of which has been fixed in this patch, but realistically it's going to depend on your server, your internet connection, the stability of your connection to the server, what mods are running on your server, and a bunch of other factors

[jovial dagger]

word, appreciate it. im sure yall get these vague random questions all the time so i appreciate the patient answer

[livid horizon]

I wonder if you guys have ever looked into using Compute Shaders for zombie migration... Im not sure if thats even possible but if so that could help a ton with performance

[summer kraken]

yeah, desync is always an annoying one too

[livid horizon]

Would also offload computation load to the GPU instead of just the CPU, which PZ often is bottlenecked by

[summer kraken]

I'm not sure what the team is using in that regard, but there are a lot of technical improvements we want to implement... it's just a matter of getting a window to implement them

[tribal crescent]

sully isnt the dev to ask about this directly

[livid horizon]

Fair enough. Ive been playing around with them, and I think that zombie migration is a prime use case

[tribal crescent]

sully mostly manages the community

[livid horizon]

Yeah ik, just spitballing

[summer kraken]

I kind of am, I'm the liaison between the players and the rest of the team really

[livid horizon]

Just saying its def a research project the game could benefit from

[tribal crescent]

if you do want this to be heard you should put it on the forums

so the other devs can all see it

[summer kraken]

!suggestion

[ivory geode]

Your suggestion here will be lost to the void. While not actively responded to, suggestions posted on our forums or Steam are actively read, so we recommend you post there instead:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/20-pz-suggestions/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/2/

[summer kraken]

But yeah performance is always on our minds

[tribal crescent]

this patch has the best performance yet

im so happy the latest patch fixed so many well known bugs

will this patch stick around awhile?

[summer kraken]

depends on whether or not we need a hotfix

[tribal crescent]

i wonder if its worth starting a save or waiting for hotfixes

[winter field]

I was half a sleep I couldn't asked when the next update right when this was posted. MY BIT IT RUINED

[tribal crescent]

give it probably 4 hours

and reddit will find a game breaking bug to complain about demanding one

"my soup wont microwave"

[summer kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-10407292009000961000

[tribal crescent]

wait can u still microwave canned food or does it start a fire

[little tinsel]

-- Readded ability to sleep on Toilets
--- Now requires Utterly Shit-faced moodle, and has a non-negligible chance of causing sickness upon waking

[tribal crescent]

ricksdetrix will be happy

imagine

[little tinsel]

critical for the b42 xonixs mega mall run

[tribal crescent]

added ability to sleep on curbs

requires utterly shit faced moodle

OH WAIT DEVS

add curb stomping as doing more damage like imagine

[meager trellis]

not many curbs

what abt a hard surface bonus

[tribal crescent]

well i dont think it would logically be an easy thing to do tho considering curbs are all 2d texture files

[tribal crescent]

grass less damage concrete asphalt more

wood inbetween

would make fighting zombies in a parking lot better then in the woods

[tribal crescent]

grass low damage hardwood floor normal damage and concrete + asphalt high damage

[meager trellis]

Itd be a small actual boost

Unless ur an expert horde chipper

[tribal crescent]

i mean realistically if ur gonna slam ur foot on a skull the concrete would be the best spot to do it

grass and dirt conforms

wood can break (texture change to the wood missing a few boards it already exists in game)

[meager trellis]

Oh i mean in the sense that its not a huge benefit

Even if it doubled stomp damage fair odds the big boot would one shot anyway

[tribal crescent]

i think military boots need to be nerfed tbh

your foot should not consistently one shot zombie skulls unless there a rot system added

or atleast make it give you more muscle strain

[meager trellis]

counterpoint

[tribal crescent]

90% of players use the foot more then any other weapon still

a foot and a fence is still the best method in game

[acoustic oyster]

yah that needs a nerf, just dunno how , i abuse the shit out of windows , fences and feet

[meager trellis]

wuh

Earlygame maybe

[tribal crescent]

its seriously b42 i think its time we get this feature truly balanced before b43..

b41 foot method is so cheesy you dont even need to use bombs

[meager trellis]

Idk once i have a mace im clearing pois like crazy

[tribal crescent]

b42 its a little less op but still no.1

bomb buffs made them actually useful so

if bombs didnt cost so much to make alot of they'd be no.1

your foot with a military boot is just so op

even high hp zombies setting enabled ur foot is somehow a one shot

[meager trellis]

Pov: ur a zombie and a human appeared from the ether in a house as you were climbing through the window

[tribal crescent]

most high skill players clear 10k+ zombies with just their foot

[meager trellis]

https://tenor.com/bm957.gif

[tribal crescent]

just make a line of them and train like in nuketown zombies...

[keen sinew]

Foot supremacy

[acoustic oyster]

i think they have been doing it , like doesnt shoes break faster or something? or was that a bug when 42 came out lol

[meager trellis]

i thinm that wad a bug

[tribal crescent]

shoes dont break as fast anymore

[lofty abyss]

Did gun slings get removed?

[tribal crescent]

it was all clothing that broke quick

[tribal crescent]

yes until they add real 3d ones

leather slings were removed

[meager trellis]

Servers werent bugged tho just the client seemingly

[tribal crescent]

pretty sure we'll get vanilla tactical slings soon

[lofty abyss]

Ok

[meager trellis]

Servers would remember the actual condition

Even if your client hallucinated a broken item 😂

[tribal crescent]

ngl add back the shoe breaking quick thing

shoes breaking quicker when using stomp + higher muscle strain on legs would do the trick

all it takes is one hole in your shoe to make you bleed out in a horde fight

with zomboids slow ass first aid

[meager trellis]

imo belts should have tons of improvised crafting utility

[tribal crescent]

try running from 50 zombies with a hole in your shoe and leg strain

[meager trellis]

I also think bedsheets should finally be added

[tribal crescent]

easy way to stop people from using feet over any actual weapon

[meager trellis]

Imagine sewing a skirt out of a quilt or something

[tribal crescent]

like early game your foot is still useful

but late game you wont be going rambo with your feet

[acoustic oyster]

nooo, my footies lmao

[meager trellis]

https://tenor.com/bfRWl.gif

whats breaking first with these babies on

my foot or their heads

[acoustic oyster]

crunchies

[meager trellis]

cleats would be a nice sports item add

Conditional speed bonus

Better speed on natural tiles, speed malus on pavement

More stomp damage than tbe big boot

https://tenor.com/bzR0E.gif

[meager trellis]

Id make the case for strain instead

[little tinsel]

these are new afaik? are tall fences properly thumpable by zeds now?

[meager trellis]

Stomping sends a fuckin shock thru your whole lower leg and the ground is basically punching ur foot

[sly fossil]

that has been there since atleast 42.12

[meager trellis]

so unless you have a really supportive shoe youre gonna feel it after caving in a few dozen heads

[meager trellis]

there are one or two notable exceptions mind

[little tinsel]

i am crazy then lmao

[meager trellis]

If the fence looks like it wont come down any time soon then it probably wont

[sly fossil]

hoping fences will have different strengths based on what type they are though

eventually

[meager trellis]

The fence thumping is smth im... On the fence about tbh

The stress from them thumping a door 1 block over is already significant

[sly fossil]

just needs the anxiety balanced a bit

[meager trellis]

The stress from a small unseen horde pounding a fence is crazy lol

[meager trellis]

imo it should be a factor of survivor hardening

I also think that hardening needs a rework tbh

[sly fossil]

oh my gosh it isn't letting me post it lol

[meager trellis]

Its absurd that my character that went on a weeklong rampage 3 weeks into the apocalypse is less brave than my 3 year base nanny nigel

[sly fossil]

for reference @little tinsel this is b42.12

[acoustic oyster]

not gonna lie irl id be freaked out lol

does it get better over time like panic when fighting?

[meager trellis]

sure but being out in the open is the best place

I dont think stress is impacted by hardening

[acoustic oyster]

no i wanna be hardend like metapod

[meager trellis]

unfortunately the bite was very effective

[acoustic oyster]

😆

[meager trellis]

random but

Id like to see more clothing materials

linen for instance

[acoustic oyster]

wet felting wool when

[meager trellis]

Usable for everything cotton is basically but linen clothing (typically) breathes better than cotton

So you can go out covered up, long sleeves long pants in summer and not get hot

It actually keeps you cooler bc its basically sunblock

[acoustic oyster]

thats so weird to me lol but makes sense like when you see in other countries in desert wearing that stuff, pretty neat

[meager trellis]

I assume thsts what the tropical shirt is

the tropical shirt in zomboid is basically like wearing air

[little tinsel]

danke

[meager trellis]

random but i fuckin love the footwraps

id kill to be able to reinforce them like using aramid thread or smth

[small estuary]

Does anyone know, multiplayer desync is gone? This is only one thing why we can't play test 42+ with my wife.

[sturdy pumice]

any major bugs on this patch?

[zenith ferry]

Admin power "Tools" always missing

[crimson geode]

Right after my 3-day weekend is over
How dare you guys be at work while I also am

[hollow heron]

Quit job to play PZ. Set your priorities right.

[sand quarry]

There is still always a bit of desync

But its been greatly reduced over the past few patches

[acoustic oyster]

lol yes spiffo

[crimson geode]

Tempting...but I basically inadvertently did that for 42.0, already

[steel plover]

#Priorities

[sly fossil]

I need PZ to become my job ❤️

[steel plover]

I quit my job and moved to my in-laws house to play PZ

call that commitment lol (jk)

[sly fossil]

Probably for the best

[ember mirage]

Was the chickens disappearing not a bug? Where did my chickens go

[steel plover]

if we update to this version, do we need to wipe the mp?

[hollow heron]

First see if server runs without issues, if it doesn't then wipe

[steel plover]

thanks!

[acoustic oyster]

glorious cause !

[crimson geode]

[obligatory @summer kraken soooo like 42.16 when?? it's been ages since the last update do y'all even care
next patch wen, when, now, hurry, when????!?]

[acoustic oyster]

but my rancher!!!

[acoustic oyster]

lmao , y udo dis

[tawdry galleon]

[obligatory "delay the update" slay gif]

[crimson geode]

tradition!

[acoustic oyster]

😆

[tawdry galleon]

Time to change tradition.

[mental agate]

if anyone could take the GIF from “delay the update” and change the text to “expedite the update” then we’ll be in business in terms of changing tradition

[tawdry galleon]

The word "slay" also means "expedite".

[mental agate]

that works

[still mica]

Can we change the speed of zombies in MP??? Thanks!!!

[lusty hill]

some desync fixes 10/10 update

[hybrid sleet]

Stable when

[crimson geode]

This guy gets it

[mental nacelle]

Good afternoon. I note once again that cheese can still not be added to omelets. I am displeased still, and once more implore you to make this a higher priority than any other nonsense you may be working on. Have a pleasant week.

[spice holly]

"Fluid collection properly caps at player's max carry weight"
It looks like we can no longer fill an entire rain barrel with gas and hand carry it back to our base.

[acoustic oyster]

hahaha

[glass ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCNjB_IIo0

😄

[amber cypress]

If reading glasses stack with that boost, that could be huge

[molten ridge]

Smh realism only when its bad for the player

[sly fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[ember crown]

i didnt know reading glasses even sped up reading time?

do prescription?

[drowsy wagon]

It really feels like the devs are being more open and having communciation

I like it

[sullen bison]

can we talk about the fact it didnt even took indi stone devs a complete month to release a new patch. Working like mad lads

just a little more then 3 weeks. Crazy pace. Gives me a lot hope for stable branch build 42 realease before summer

[molten rain]

HI!

This means that certain ‘gamey’ features such as Zombie Respawn and Zombie Pop Loot Effects have been disabled.
This means that we can clear a zone definitively ? No more zed spawn on the mode Apocalypse ?

So now ex-"Apocalypse" is "Extinction" now ?
It's not really clear ^^

[sullen bison]

i mean if you go to a remode area yes but be aware that still chunk migration is a thing

as far as i know

[civic mountain]

new apoc and new extinction seem to take various elements from old apoc
extinction likely takes alot of the gamey elements that add difficulty that were left out of apoc for immersion

also, I hope they modify erosion in default apoc to be slower like how they mandate realistic animal growth and realistic crop growth

[molten rain]

Yeah but the zed spawn feature disabled is a massive thing for the 1st time of the game on main gamemode xD

[civic mountain]

dont see it mentioned but its way to fast to be realistic in old apoc

[amber cypress]

Not that I know of

[amber cypress]

FRRRR
They're going hard, best dev team I've ever seen

[ember crown]

but reading glasses actually help? i just throught they were cosmetic up til now

[ember crown]

slow cooking, fast cooking, as long as they cooking

[amber cypress]

Yep! About 10% - some others here know the exact value by heart and can probably jump in xD

[sullen bison]

for real. with this pace it could go to stable before summer

[molten rain]

not everyone got this tip for reading ^^

[ember crown]

gahh damn i literally never knew, i'd assume it stacks with reading glasses

[amber cypress]

Definitely! I'm as patient as needed - still, it does make me happy of course that we're getting a lot of new features atm :D

[ember crown]

*the sitting and reading

need all the reading speed i can get in MP if you know what im saying

[amber cypress]

I stand by my bet of stable release in June

[acoustic oyster]

yar lol

[molten rain]

dawm now i don't know which gamemode i will play tonight ^^

[ember crown]

yeaa, anything more i can do to try to juice my character higher/faster is always fun

[acoustic oyster]

try them all!

[molten rain]

i will

[amber cypress]

Oh, yeah! xD
All MP saves I host have minutes per book page halved tbh. I know, it's not as realistic but sitting around the living room with your homies for 2 in-game days just to read is only fun for so long xD

[acoustic oyster]

[sullen bison]

i mean to be fair that sounds reasonable and i would say the last 2 patches were more balancing and fixing rather then adding new stuff.
So i would agree to that and i think they are packing up to move to stable in a few more patches

[ember crown]

are the vehicles still really buggy on MP? Last time I played with my boy they'd jank around or not move until I got in and out of them, i was the remote player.

[ember crown]

I haven't done that yet but i probably will, saves me some points on fast reader if we do that i guess lol makes sense since we can't FF

[tame marsh]

WHOA BUDDY massive news

[sly fossil]

Was that in B41? a lot of that depends on connection between you and everyone else - but it is FAR better in B42

[ember crown]

B42, a few updates ago though, maybe 42.13

it was BAD

but my internet can be kind of janky sometimes so maybe that was it, hard for me to say

[summer kraken]

The issues in 42.13 were not caused by desync, but a bug that people thought was desync. That bug has since been resolved. This however does not mean that desync may not occur, as desync is a performance issue that can appear for numerous different reasons including internet connection or hardware limitations.

[patent pewter]

i'm just disappointed nothing has been done to change (or even explain) the colossal vehicle damage to zombies nerf in 42.14

[ember crown]

My hardware is fine, but internet sometimes not so much, ill do another playthrough with the same person soon and report back

[burnt epoch]

I guess mods are broke until they get updated?

[livid horizon]

Thats the norm, yea

Theres a bit of a strong hiccup in this patch that we're working out how to fix so it might be a bit

[grizzled imp]

why the hell would they add fictive guns to the realistic gun roaster??

[gusty mesa]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92467-b4215-important-globalmoddata-broken/
mods are broken until a hotfix is released I fear:( (at least that big chunk of mods that use globalmoddata tables)

[livid horizon]

I can't tell if this is bait, but a lot of the guns before were fictional too lol

[grizzled imp]

all vanilla guns existed irl

[livid horizon]

Uh, no

[acoustic oyster]

are you talking about the names?

[civic mountain]

they have fake names though, all the guns mentioned this update are the same

[livid horizon]

The JS-2000 does not exist

Im assuming its for copyright they have to have fake names

[acoustic oyster]

yeah lol

same reason we have plonkers n stuff like that

which is fun, it makes pz have their own stuff in a way , its own little universe of names

[grizzled imp]

ok for this one, but all others do

just seems kind of immersion breaking and surprising from tis

[civic mountain]

which guns do you think dont exist

[grizzled imp]

half real half fake now

[maiden cloud]

eh ok

[grizzled imp]

nice input bruh

[maiden cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-its-the-best-nacho-libre-i-love-it-gif-8053530

[acoustic oyster]

did we get more pot holes in pz

[atomic glacier]

Guys is the update broke

Is it worth hopping on the game

Ive been taking a break since the security vulnerability fiasco

[mental agate]

seems like it I poured some water into a cooking pot, but I came back at a later time and it was empty

[acoustic oyster]

lol noo with roads

[molten ridge]

Imagine not having the night settings to pitch black smh

[lilac aurora]

Thursday July 9th, 2026.

[mental agate]

they removed the ability to sleep on toilets? Worst patch ever

[lilac aurora]

[molten ridge]

Why was that removed tho?

[lilac aurora]

Likely unintended to begin with.

[pure salmon]

@summer kraken is it fair or accurate to say that the security vulnerability kind of brought forward 42.15.0 a little bit earlier in the dev cycle than originally planned?
IE is it reasonable to assume that there will now be a slightly longer time until the next unstable patch/update?

[ember crown]

Has there been any changes to motion sickness? I feel like it's way too punishing or lasts way too long

[mental agate]

aw no they also fixed male raccoons attacking each other no more raccoon brawls in my backyard

[normal wing]

Just found a house with 4 shotguns hidden throughout

[summer kraken]

No, not at all. In fact we were lucky to not have it slow down the patch

[normal wing]

this guy loved his shotguns

[supple badger]

Kinda awesome, will retest pz soon 🙂

1 note regarding talk about apoc balancing.

[amber cypress]

Will start a save after I dinner, yesss >:3

[supple badger]

I think removing respawn makes sense.

Though (this is my opinion), I'd like it if survival itself was made hard.

[summer kraken]

As a "no respawn" player, I think the new Apoc settings are very good

[supple badger]

like, forget the zombies, imagine surviving without luxuries / amenities

[summer kraken]

was my biggest gripe of the mode all these years

[supple badger]

as a real person that is

[amber cypress]

Yeah, I like the new Apoc settings from the sound of them, I'll definitely give them a try now!

[tawdry galleon]

• Character now recieves a reading speed boost when sitting.
  WAIT!!! This stacks with reading glasses while reading books???

That's a total of -20% reduction in reading time

[supple badger]

Hopefully this is a thing that an expanded health / sickness system will address

[tawdry galleon]

Yoooooooooooo, I'm cheesing it

[supple badger]

I think it'd be good in balancing apoc without changing zombies from where they are right now

[tawdry galleon]

Noo, AmazingSully, don't

AmazingSully, please don't take away my reading boost cheese.

[summer kraken]

Is it though? I haven't looked at the code, but faster reading is calculated by reducing time.

So if it is 10% for each, you now have reading taking 81% of the normal time, which is a 23% increase in speed

[tawdry galleon]

EVEN BETTER!

I thought it's additive stacking

But if it's multiplicative stacking, then yeah, that's way better.

[summer kraken]

it might be, if it's additive then it's 25%

[mental agate]

eating cheese gives your character a reading boost now?

[tawdry galleon]

Oh! Music to my ears.

[summer kraken]

Again, I haven't looked at the code

just from what I remember from the reading glasses code

[acoustic oyster]

finally

[supple badger]

Another question, for the future would it be possible for item condition to be revised? I'd be fine if you needed to take care of your tools but I doubt steel tools would break that easily :p.

[tawdry galleon]

I know, report back to me about it tomorrow. 😄

[supple badger]

It'd kind of give a boost to blacksmithing imo.

[summer kraken]

this is 100% a balance topic, so Serellan would look at that. File a suggestion. I know he's looking at the balance of absolutely everything, so the squeaky wheel gets the oil

[fathom matrix]

hi yes yes im experiencing this error anybody else experiencing this? https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1480666009261183057

[supple badger]

Will do one of these days

[tawdry galleon]

#1019767076094758924

[gritty sierra]

It's fine as long as you like vanilla run

[fathom matrix]

i made a post but gotta solve this asap

[supple badger]

I've played apoc for a couple hundred hours and my experience with tools is that they tend to break / blunt way too easily.

[tawdry galleon]

Ah ok. Reinstall your game.

[fathom matrix]

frick

[supple badger]

On the other end there's nebulous items that don't wear down at all (lol)

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smerk-gif-3649197029996930170

[tawdry galleon]

TAKE THAT, Slow Reader! I have you in my sights now! MUHAHAHA

[amber cypress]

Axes now degrade slower, so that's a start? :D

[tawdry galleon]

I can only guess Fast Reader + all these reading boosts will give a -45% in quicker reading time.

[summer kraken]

I'm trying to find the code now to look at the numbers 😛

[gritty sierra]

Has anyone else noticed zombies reviving after being shot? I cleared about 100 of them, but after I reloaded, some came back to life

[tawdry galleon]

🙏 🙏 📿 Please be good news

[summer kraken]

you can just sandbox settings reading speed can't you?

[amber cypress]

Also, gonna push the agriculture calculations still being misleading on the forums in a sec. With stable approaching and the new game modes mixing those up anyway, maybe that's an opportunity to fix those too

[supple badger]

Just a ballpark guess but 1 axe should last a couple hundred pz trees me thinks, unless they change tree sizes.

1 good, quality, axe that is

[tawdry galleon]

We're assuming we're using Apocalypse Mode, as the standard, control setting

[amber cypress]

Or like, less calculations but the sowing seasons actually

[supple badger]

Obviously you'll need to upkeep it, but it shouldn't literally start breaking apart by the 20th tree

will need to benchmark that...

[ember crown]

It's not even cheese if it stacks, its finding reading glasses and having a reading setup to increase efficiency, it makes sense

[brittle path]

Yay at more guns and bugfixes!

Reduced the durability drain on tools designed to chop trees, when chopping trees Hu, I'll have to try that. does that mean one hatchet = goodbye forest?

or just greatly increased amount of trees removed

[tawdry galleon]

Greatly increased.

[brittle path]

thats good, unlimited would be weird.

but was kinda... low

[tawdry galleon]

Yeah, definitely not "Oh hey, look at this forest. It's free real estate."

[brittle path]

lol.

Lots of really nice bugfixes this version TBH.

Still missing vehicle collision though 😢

[tawdry galleon]

That one needed more time to fix.

[brittle path]

Yea. I assume it got lost in an optimization.

[tawdry galleon]

I suspect it has to do with physics engine or some math-heavy and logic conditions stuffs.

[brittle path]

It happened in the same update that FPS took a large boost up. (B42.14)

[gritty sierra]

I got that on a video. I will report it

[proven prism]

Any tricks to removing wooden barricades from windows? It appears I can't remove t hem. I just get the option to disassemble my window lol.

[tawdry galleon]

You need tools

And some carpentry levels

[proven prism]

hmm maybe wrong tool

[late oasis]

How to update
In require , incompatible, loadModAfter, loadModBefore need update values. It
must be just PARAM=MOD_ID1,MOD_ID2,MOD_ID3,... , WITHOUT \and WITHOUT
WORKSHOP_ID .
In server settings param Mods= need update in same way.
Does this mean we now do Mods=LibraryMod,Examplemod,CarMod like B41 again? instead of what I had to do with Mods=\LibraryMod;\Examplemod;\CarMod?
The server I'm running is up and somewhat works with the old method of \ModID but some mods had a weird behavior with the update; for example the TrueMusicJukebox complained about the wrong Workshop Mod ID I think not sure, as the translations changed and I didn't look into what it was before 😛

Edit: changed ; to ,

Feel free to ping on reply

[proven prism]

I have 9 carpentry, a hammer, a saw. I only get the option to remove the window xD

[summer kraken]

confirmed multiplicative.

So 81% of the time = 23% reading boost with both. With fast reader as well becomes 56.7% of the time = 76% speed increase.

[amber cypress]

What kind of hammer? You either need a claw hammer or a crowbar

[spice valley]

anyone else been having an error that doesnt let ya siphon gas out of cars?

[magic dove]

-removed sleeping in toitlets
Devastating news, never knew I could sleep in toilets until now and now I wont ever be able to

[fair isle]

I’m not home but does anyone know if they fixed multiplayer in-game Host feature?

or do mods still not work when using Host feature

[brittle path]

Don't worry, now you'll randomly fall asleep while reading on the toilet and wake up with both legs numb

Realism!

[atomic chasm]

Don't really enjoy the new iso cursor for controller thing. Hard to turn around on time

Anyway to disable?

[weak fjord]

should i reinstall mods i use on hosted server after this update? just to be sure

[livid horizon]

Mods are prob broken rn

[strange talon]

New patch and mondoid wtf

[bronze field]

Hello, in the new update, when I am creating a new game (without mods enabled), when choosing the location, the text for West Point, Riverside, and Muldraugh is missing.

Does anyone know why?

[molten rain]

Hey! I have tested both gamemode : Apocalypse = No more respawn Boring. Extinction= Alarm everywhere / Very difficult to spawn on Westpoint and survive. May just "Story gamemode" keep "Apocalyspe" and create Extinction for hard survival would be better without needs to go sandbox to have our old normal run playthrough.

[gritty sierra]

Translations are broken. It's been already reported

[sly fossil]

yea seems fine in english

[bronze field]

Okay, thanks

[bronze field]

I'll try putting it in English to see if that fixes it

[gritty sierra]

It will

[bronze field]

yep

[gritty sierra]

If it bothers you, you can fix it for yourself. There is an instruction. Instead of PL, choose your language https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92445-42150-missing-city-names-in-polish-language/

I know I posted it in the wrong section but I posted the link in the valid bug report

[bronze field]

It doesn't really bother me, but if it can be fixed, I'll do it.

[gritty sierra]

It's just a visual bug

I fixed it because I couldn't stand it 😅

[alpine dune]

Little less that stars on the sky😎

Ahah, new wave of my dancing with a shaman drum on dedicated server ❤️ 😁

[proven prism]

I was using a ball-peen. DO'H

[tawdry galleon]

AHAHAHAHAHA YES! I knew it somehow stack, but not THIS much! 😆 😆 😆

[modest crown]

Holy the desync for other players is nuts on the new update
As host its fine but other players are getting phantom zombies that look and Sound like theyre attacking for ages after theyve been killed
Borderline unplayable when my friends are all schizofrenic and hitting Air zombies

[vernal sun]

there is this problem with reloading

[tawdry galleon]

If you can get video recordings (or GIF via the free app, Gifcam.exe) of the phantom zombies, send those over to The Indie Stone on the official forums.

[vernal sun]

for reloading magazines, a bullet fed gun works fine

[bronze field]

Let's go, my .14 game is still alive and working properly

[gritty sierra]

Converted?

[bronze field]

yes

[somber portal]

On our radar -- rare instance where it works as expected in MP, but needs to be patched in SP.

[tawdry galleon]

42.16.0.

Changelog size: At least > 1 line.

😆

Yes! I'm all set for 30 days.

[sudden sentinel]

Wiered glitch is happening with controller. I can push zombies over where ever my aim cursor is. He can be 20 tiles away from me

With a gun in hand

[brittle path]

thats cause your an Xman so its to be expected.

telekinesis

[sudden sentinel]

😂

[somber portal]

[tribal crescent]

ohhh the cursor changes in the latest patch probably did this

specifically when you have a gun they are trying to make steamdeck work better with the new aiming system so they probably messed it up that way

[brittle path]

Ok but this is legit better. we can now telepush. Just lock it behind an 8point trait or something plz.

Project zomboid: Wild Wasteland trait. (option to disable it in server settings of course)

[sudden sentinel]

The sweet spot for controller players would be keeping the old aiming system for melee and unarmed players and allowing a cursor aim for firearms. Maybe a hold down R2 button to ready aim instead of just moving the joystick slightly. Its offputting when trying to slightly move the joystick. Plus on the steam deck and ally we can even turn on gyro controls.

[torpid widget]

just saying but

i feel like gun models are quite small

like, our characters hands are way large compared to the guns

[worldly dagger]

Will firearms mod affected by this?

[lost prawn]

NEW GUNS! FINALLY! I LOVE YOU INDIE GAME STORE

[tribal crescent]

most gun model mods fix this i agree

devs NEED to size them up put a suggestion for it please

!suggestions

[ivory geode]

Your suggestion here will be lost to the void. While not actively responded to, suggestions posted on our forums or Steam are actively read, so we recommend you post there instead:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/20-pz-suggestions/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/2/

[sly fossil]

❤️

[lost prawn]

they all look so cool

[sly fossil]

I haven't had a chance to mess with them yet

Had a house showing earlier and making dinner and it is Baldur's Gate 3 night

[queen breach]

Optimized Animal designation zone update
what does this mean?

Fixed character was taking feet damage when driving over broken glass barefoot
https://tenor.com/view/flintstone-car-gif-5742966888834476536

[soft hound]

Spaghetti at its finest

[limpid spear]

if i had to guess, its how animals are spawned, the game just simulates them when you are not close by

they probably optimized that to eat less resources

[queen breach]

I wonder if it will help with them disappearing randomly

[limpid spear]

they'd probably want a bug report with as much details as possible when it does happen

tracking down fringe cases and all that

[novel meadow]

anyone else having severe audio issues? specifically during rain

[lost prawn]

i might make a new savefile and make my character look like shaun from shaun of the dead to use the winchester looking gun

[sly fossil]

[strange talon]

hijacking your post but did moving the campfire help with your issue?

[queen breach]

I haven’t had a chance to test

[strange talon]

alright, I'm hoping it'll work so I can rest easy lol

[maiden summit]

WOOOHOOOOO

[inner tundra]

With what you guys did to Stendos this update, I CANNOT wait for future map updates. Unfortunately, I have a job to do...

https://tenor.com/view/delay-the-update-gachi-gif-2248412581895248061

[sly fossil]

I also have a job to do

[inner tundra]

My response:

Had to use capcut because it was a fully minute

[sly fossil]

[tawdry galleon]

They are portable guns.

[torpid widget]

seems too big to be portable

[sly fossil]

[strange talon]

my reaction to patch and mondoid while I slept

[inner tundra]

I thought it was looking down, didn't realize I was being stared at

[tawdry galleon]

While we anticipating Timberborn's first foray to v1.0 in 3 more days.

[wooden mulch]

lop bunnies look sad.

[strange talon]

Timberborn was great years ago, expectations high

[strange talon]

no its just Luna's sister always looking like a little shit being disappointed at you

[pure salmon]

What did they do to stendos?

[lost prawn]

i love the indie game store ❤️

[lost prawn]

i checked earlier and theyre actually using the 3D placement for it, guns lined all across the racks with bulletproof vests hanging up aswell

it looks like a real gunstore now

[sand quarry]

Guns on the racks and story events on the tables

[pure salmon]

Oh neat. Only stendos though?

[orchid garnet]

42.15.0 is dope but I'm sad that I've got to wait for the mod devs to update their stuff before I can hop on mp again. Just isn't the same if I don't have to poop and brush my teeth 😭

[sand quarry]

From what I have seen yeah

There are story events in other gun stores but not as many as stendos

[pure salmon]

My understanding was that most MP mods that worked in 42.14 should work in 42.15 without issue?

[orchid garnet]

Our server is suddenly getting a fatal crash with damnlib

Reinstalled them all, worked fine on B42.14.1 - not working now. Figure the dev has something minor to fix.

[pure salmon]

Which mods you running? If you list them I'll bet I can pick which one is tripping up.

[sand quarry]

You should not be running any mods on B42

Youre getting crashes because youre using mods

[orchid garnet]

Well duh

[inner tundra]

sssssssssssssh

[pure salmon]

lol nonsense

[orchid garnet]

@pure salmon Imma make a techsupport thread as to not pollute the discussion box.

[proven prism]

wife keeps getting naked on 42.15. I find it funny but she's getting mad

[frozen canopy]

lol

[acoustic oyster]

lol what

[orchid garnet]

[mental agate]

huh?

[proven prism]

yeah we're just playin and then randomly everything she had equipped gets removed

[mental agate]

just searched it up and other players have been reporting it too lol

security vulnerability 2.0

[livid horizon]

Like removed removed or just uneqquiped?

[proven prism]

unequipped

our play would be crippled otherwise 🙂

[mental agate]

apparently it happens when you’re fighting zombies

our characters must be blown away at the mere fact that they are fighting a zombie

[livid horizon]

Pervert zombies. I thought they couldnt get any lower.

[acoustic oyster]

lol

who eating our clothes

[jaunty elbow]

chat are we really this close to b42 stable

[sly fossil]

getting closer that is for sure!

[sly fossil]

5th house I looted. "Game too easy now!"

[verbal tinsel]

A comic book, no way! Damn the game IS so easy with so many cool comics all over the place.

Jokes the game is so much harder because I must collect every comic

[sly fossil]

❤️

[verbal tinsel]

🙂

[supple badger]

https://tenor.com/view/gabriel-twd-twd-the-walking-dead-father-gabriel-father-gabriel-twd-gif-16291453712555289852

I'm leaking ur location to the bandit npcs

you strike me as a muldraugher

that is likely muldraugh 'gated' south east

[sly fossil]

tbh I meant to spawn westpoint but I guess I forgot to select it

it is indeed

[supple badger]

lmfao

[tired sandal]

haven't had a chance to try the new update, but the guns look overly dark in the screenshots, like what used to be a dark grey is turning to black. Is this a bug or a feature?

[tranquil horizon]

Hi gang! I'm a Steamdeck player and I haven't been able to play 42.15 yet. Im just curious how's the new aiming system being implemented?

[tired sandal]

going to answer my own question here, looks to be a feature, looking across screenshots and the weapons they're based on. I see the argument for the darker black being true to life, but I might have to learn some modding to make it dark grey again. the less extreme contrast is more pleasing to my eye

[atomic chasm]

Yes

That would be great
Now melee aiming with controller/gamepad is pretty difficult

[atomic chasm]

For melee aiming in my experience with a controller you control a cursor on the map which would make sense for gun pointing i think

But during a close melee fighting with a zombie if your pointer is way far Away (since you kept the joysticks under tenion) and you need to turn around quickly to Target someone behind you can't since you have you need to drag that cursor behind you

That is my first impression after playing a bit, i would prefer the old system for meele, but maybe i am missing something

[tranquil horizon]

Wait, so they revamped the melee aiming as well? I thought it was only for guns?

I need to check things out.

As far as suggesting goes though what if they maintained the old aiming system using the controller with the color changing base on how likely you're going to hit the zomboid with a slight change.

Aiming spawns a recticle that moves up and down (head to leg) the zed your aiming at and timing the shot decides which body part it hits, with leveled aiming shorten the gap making it easier and quicker to hit the head. ^°

[atomic chasm]

I'm not sure it was their intent to change for meele too 🤷‍♂️

[winter sigil]

No respawning zombies in a vanilla dev made gamemode, thank you so much 🙏🏻 now I'll feel like the game is kind of balanced around that

[brittle path]

Absolutely, Cool to see some major 'lore' changes. I always thought 10% respawn was far too much.

1~3% I kinda like just to make it feel less 'lonely' but im sure better migration could take care of that too

[modern crown]

hi

[winter sigil]

I've never played with the sandbox settings (so also not respawn rates), but I was planning to on my next playthrough, and now this released :')

I hope they one day triple down on the migration, because I both love being able to clear out a place but there still being a risk of it being swarmed by a dynamic migration

[brittle path]

agreed. Maybe if im too lazy to go to LV, LV can come to me!

Imagine: a heatmap, like factorio pollution. but for zombies instead of biters.

you'd HAVE to move bases or defend them with your life

Id think that would be a sick evolution of PZ base building. you build, you defend... you lose, but maybe you live on and go elsewhere... And come back 6 months later when they have dispursed some

Imagine needing like 3~5 bases scattered around

what your gonna leave for when you recover the base.. what you take with you..what you store elsewhere in your backup base just in case.

[winter sigil]

That sounds sick

[gritty sierra]

Either that or put Hordes Alpha in the base game. Roaming hordes that spawn after a month would be sick

[brittle path]

PZ could throw far off zombies into a 'meta' number that just migrate a certain number of zombies each cell (Maybe with some formula that TECHNICALLY makes some zombies much faster then average just so some zombies can reach you sooner then others) and have basically the entire maps zombie pop start to move a bit every hour

sandbox setting for migration speed/heatmap spread/etc...

You could make nomad somewhat less of a 'challange' run and more of a 'Well, old base got overran..'

[gritty sierra]

Yeah, that would be fun. Needing to have secondary bases etc. Currently there is no point in reinforcing safe houses

[rocky quarry]

What's new? I'm too lazy to update the game

[gritty sierra]

New guns, controller aiming support, many annoying bugs fixed. Axes should be able to chop down more trees

And new difficulty presets

[rocky quarry]

ty

[alpine dune]

keep me posted

[mortal jetty]

Hello devs, PLEASE revert to the previous gamepad melee aiming system, the new one it’s unreliable (at the very least) and it’s gonna get so many players killed because of it. Can’t believe someone is happy with this new system, at least for melee. Thanks

[atomic chasm]

!suggestions