Project Summer Car Preview!

[tall tusk]

Preview of my enhanced engine mechanics mod. I'll be adding all new components to the engine and simulating them along with new fluids like motor oil, antifreeze, etc. So far I have installing and removing components working along with a new simulation of the charging system/starter/battery and motor physics.

[forest sapphire]

Looks interesting! Any chance we'll get to install performance parts to improve performance?

[tall tusk]

absolutely

though most performance improvements will require installing my car physics mod as well 🙂

[forest sapphire]

Excellent. I've always wanted a mod that lets you install superchargers, NOX, all-terrain tires and suspension, etc.

[tall tusk]

(Since the vanilla game doesn't support mods improving HP for example, due to a bug.. that iv already reported)

Different suspensions could be done at some point, there actually is adjustable suspension parameters that can be adjusted in realtime. Sadly per-tire friction is... broken. Due to another bug iv already reported.

the vanilla game has different friction tires. And they lose friction as they lose condition. Code exists to gather all this info and hand it off to bullet(?) or their C++ wrapper of bullet.. and then it is promptly ignored.

[forest sapphire]

Guess the framework for it exists but the actual code to make it work hasn't been implemented yet

[tall tusk]

In the case of mods/engine quality not adjusting HP (in forward at least.. it works in reverse) is because on the line right after it gets current engine HP, it overwrites it.. with the default HP of the vehicle.

(my car physics mod fixes that at least, btw)

So I suspect its another case where it technically exists but for whatever reason it was disabled at the very end of the code for..reasons (most likely they didn't like how beat up POS cars drove)

But they should have just adjusted tires to have a more reasonable friction range -_-;

Currently very low condition tires have like, 1/4 new friction. It should be more like 1/2

[forest sapphire]

I refuse to comment on other people's code. That way madness lies.

[tall tusk]

And then maybe make old tires have less friction then they do new.

I have actually somewhat reimplimented tire friction, at least for acceleration purposes.

Right now im working on fluid transfer, and then I can start simulating the new parts effects.

[forest sapphire]

I'm still just trying to set up a dev environment better than changing lua scripts, loading the game and seeing what happens :/

[tall tusk]

lol.

I really should as well.. still using programmers notepad

[tall tusk]

Success! Fluids can now be added/removed from the radiator/oil pan.

[tall tusk]

Neat. I may be able to make 'oil quality' be something you figure out by looking at the color of the fluid.

[lavish juniper]

Finally someone decided to make improved mechanics mod. Thank you and good luck 🤝🏻

[verbal burrow]

if this mod acualy gets finished and works well, this gonna be a top 3 mod for me. *i love my car modifications *

[tall tusk]

The 5 "critical" engine components (Cylinder head, pistons, crankcase, flywheel, sparkplugs) now stop the engine if any are missing or damaged below 10% (And they also change the vanilla engine condition automatically to the lowest condition of the 5)

@lavish juniper @verbal burrow Thanks for the encouragement!

Lets see, Basic 'shutoff' functionality is done. I guess next is the 'softer' failures like engine tempature/radiator and oil

Interestingly enough, there is code for overheating the engine to damage it, from lack of hood... But of course, with no temp gauge, its hard to tell if that ever happened.

[timber light]

This is such an amazing idea, really interested to see how it turns out

[tall tusk]

Head gasket failure will be fun: Your oil and coolant will mix. Not good for either 😛

Hope you notice before you drive too far... Shame I can't add particle effects...

.. Current temperature code is meh and just increases engine temp to a fixed limit based on hood condition.. lol

I can see no evidence overheating exists atm either (despite a comment saying it does)

[lavish juniper]

Do you plan adding feature of worn engines burning oil?

[tall tusk]

Didn't think of it, But now that you mention it thats a good idea. Not skilled enough to fix it? Just pour more oil in! its finneee... sorta.

[lavish juniper]

Yeah you could make it like if pistons or cylinder head worn out, for example less then 60% condition amount of oil should get lower

[safe rover]

This looks great. Very detailed and amazing for further immersion and realism. Do you think this would be compatible with the KI5 vehicles?

[lavish juniper]

Spark plugs condition could affect on how engine starts

[tall tusk]

very, I love his mods and am using them while testing/developing. I think the screenshot above is one of his actually.

[tall tusk]

Yea, I was thinking pistons, cylinder head, crankcase or oil pan = oil loss.

maybe crankshaft too (if we assume that covers main seals?)

Now have a proper engine thermostat/heating simulation, complete with ambient temp dependent cooling.

(and hood/radiator condition/coolant level)

[safe rover]

Awesome, I'll be looking forward to pick it up and play with it when it comes out. Seems like the sort of mod that could be big.

Would it come with sandbox setting options to adjust values or mod specific loot, ect?

[tall tusk]

Check out my other mod beefcake food overhaul while you wait 🙂 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3543815008

[tall tusk]

Yep!

I know not everyone wants the full 'experience', or to have cars spawn with broken parts, so that will all be configurable eventually.

(while others want the 10 year later experience where your lucky to find 1 good part on a car)

[safe rover]

I think I've subscribed to that one already, but haven't used it yet, probably activate it on my next run and try it out.

That's awesome, thanks for answering my questions.

[tall tusk]

Nice. It works mid-run btw. Im even working on a mod to 'respawn' loot in a container so you can update all your food to the new stats.

[tall tusk]

No problem 🙂 thanks for showing interest.

[lavish juniper]

Btw what gonna happen in game if anything but motor oil would be added to the engine?😆

[tall tusk]

It will degrade the engine oils 'quality' :0

Iv actually added support for adding (some) misc fluids to oil/radiator.

[lavish juniper]

And if oil bad = all engine parts quality get worse because of it?

[tall tusk]

yep

[lavish juniper]

Haha yeah sudden engine seizure on a vehicle that you just found would be hella funny 😆

[safe rover]

Also new way to troll or mess with people in MP when it comes out since you could sabotage vehicles by putting milk or soda or something in the engine or gas tank.

[tall tusk]

yeep.

[tall tusk]

I tried making the motor oil based purely on color, and while its doable.. as you can see there is very little difference between a 50/50 mix of used/fresh oil and fresh oil, due to how color mixing works

Also pictured is the new temp gauge I made.

[plucky anchor]

any plans to add compat with damnlibrary and ki5 vehicles?

[torn charm]

@plucky anchor He mentions it here.

[plucky anchor]

✅

[torn charm]

Don't know what that means, but happy to clear it up.

[tall tusk]

Todays features added: Radiators and coolant levels matter to cooling (They multiply each other), and good hood condition provides a bonus to cooling (50% at no hood, 100% at >50% condition hood)

Overheating damages pistons/cylinder head/headgasket

Oil matters: Low oil levels (below 30% of fresh engine oil) cause damage to pistons/crank/cylinder head.

Oil filter condition helps reduce how fast oil turns into used engine oil. (Driving without one.. Will result in total loss of engine oil in a few seconds)

Piston/cylinder head/crankshaft condition sets how fast you contaminate and burn oil

[tall tusk]

Low headgasket condition causes oil/coolant loss and for the two fluids to mix.

[tall tusk]

Oh god, I just tied HP to engine part condition. Now when you get a junker it can hardly move, and you start getting slower and slower as the parts quickly degrade from overheating/lack of oil

[lavish juniper]

Maybe just add the overheating light instead of gauge?

[lilac coral]

Yo what this is awesome

[lavish juniper]

I know that old cars had gauges like temp, oil pressure, volts, etc. but to make it more vanilla I think a light on a dashboard would be enough

[lilac coral]

I've kinda wanted advanced mechanics for a bit

[tall tusk]

Thanks

[lilac coral]

there WAS a mod that changed the dash but it broke and doesnt work anymore

[tall tusk]

Problem is by time its overheating your taking damage

you really want to refill/fix the rad before that

or slow down/stop hitting the accelerator so hard

[lilac coral]

heh... car explodes from lack of oil would be funny

[tall tusk]

(heating is based on throttle amount, cooling is based on hood condition, radiator condition and how full your radiator is)

[tall tusk]

It more or less does seize up in a minute or two without oil. Also starting the car with no oil filter will dump the oil in about 10 seconds

Still have to add an oil idiot light

(Not that the idiot light can detect your oil needing changing.. or your oil mixing with water from a blown headgasket)

[tall tusk]

Im very likely to change more of the dash, I really hate the tacho starting at 1K and it really should change depending on the vehicle max RPM

[lilac coral]

so it'd vary from car to car?

That'd work with vanilla but modded may be a hassle

since there's so many modded cars

[lavish juniper]

Yeah vanilla dash is pretty basic and needs some work to be done 🥲

[tall tusk]

Cars already have the heavyduty/standard/performance ID, and there is some kinda 'RPM type' ID as well

Its less 'per car' and more 'per car type'

Like a 5k tacho, 7k tacho and 8k tacho for the 3 types

done, all tachos now go all the way to the redline

AS NATURE INTENDED.

[tall tusk]

Now with working transmission swaps that result in different gear ratios and number of gears.

[tall tusk]

Considering naming the mod: Project Summer car. Thoughts?

[meager lance]

🔥

[safe rover]

Does this mean it introduces a manual transmission mechanic or are all the cars still effectively automatic transmission?

[tall tusk]

Its still automatic, BUT they are semi-intelligent 1990's automatics, if you tap the throttle instead of holding it down, they upshift and keep the rpms low. If you slam the gas, they downshift for you.

they also automatically downshift if you load them down too much towing (unlike vanilla that just lets you slow to 0mph)

[safe rover]

Awesome.

[lavish juniper]

Maybe something more bad ass you know 😅

Fix it or Die

Black Moons’ Full Throttle Repairs
(if you want to put your name in the mod name)

Dead Road Repairs

Under the Hood: Apocalypse Now

[spiral oxide]

this mod looks really cool, do you think you can add a mechanic for sabotaging cars like putting glass into the fuel tank or other items? once again really cool mod and might actually make me mess with mechanics way more

[tall tusk]

You can already add other fluids to the oil pan and its rather hard to tell

[torn charm]

My Summer Car is a car repair sim game, which is what he is referencing.

[tall tusk]

Just added burnout (With spinning rear wheels!) and better screeching tire noises.

Tire condition now matters for acceleration

[safe rover]

Nice.

[tall tusk]

What should I call the car physics part of the mod? They don't 100% need each other so I'll likely keep them somewhat seperate.

[safe rover]

Just car physics?

[tall tusk]

kinda boring name -_-;

[torn charm]

Car PhysX

Or

Advanced PhysX

Or

Grounded Car PhysX

[tall tusk]

'Realistic Car Physics' maybe...

[timber light]

Car Engine Overhual ?

[torn charm]

Car Engine Uhual

[lilac coral]

My Project Car

or My Summer Project

[tall tusk]

My project car isn't half bad.

Phase 1 is pretty much done

(all major engine parts)

All implimented.

Now onto phase 2: The accessories.

So far, I am considering: Torque converter, Alternator, Starter, Water pump, Fan belt, Power steering pump, Brake booster, Air conditioner, heater core, turbo/super charger, horn

[safe rover]

Nice. Is it having any performance impact when it's running?

Also would there be like levels of detail, like a simple version of the mod , and ultra detailed version or something?

[tall tusk]

90%+ of the code only executes once per second, and its really only a few simple math ops, so shouldn't have any performance impact

[tall tusk]

Iv considered it, but I feel it might be a bit much work to start having levels to the simulation. I'll have to see if there is demand for the feature.

[safe rover]

I understand since that could be quite a challenge and work and you've already got enough on your plate. It's got my vote but I suppose you could run a poll or just see what the feedback is like to determine or even just find it's not worth the time to break it into detail levels.

[tall tusk]

The other big question would be what parts make the cut and what don't -_-

I think instead, I'll add 'difficulty' levels to the simulation. Iv already got % missing parts during spawn, and % variance chance, I'll likely have things like "need mechanics to see condition of installed parts" and "need to remove <X> to see <Y>" options

Like, you can't see piston condition without removing the cylinder head first. or crank condition without removing the oilpan

along with 'wear' rate options

so if your not a huge fan of the complexity, you can just turn wear off and turn all the part % visibility on. See bad part? replace it. simple.

[safe rover]

Yeah I'm just thinking of some situations where I'd like to get the full blast version of this mod but might be overwhelming for people if it's included in a MP server where there's 10 people running around. But it still all sounds awesome to me.

[tall tusk]

Well part of the concept was some people should be overwhelmed and you should seek your servers mechanic for parts/services 🙂

Vanilla is so simple (and so many parts are cosmetic if above 0% condition) its kinda pointless to be a dedicated mechanic

Hell, so many cars run its nearly pointless to be a mechanic, can just grab a new >50% condition everything car, even with car condition set to lowest in sandbox options

And I always hated having to basically scrap 10 cars engines to repair 1 car

(engine parts)

10 cars that where prob about as good or better then the car your 'fixing'

Imagine just going to your mechanic on a server and being like "I dunno it keeps overheating, fix it tony!"

Iv always wanted to just run like, a car junkyard in zomboid. Clear out one of the existing junkyards with a wrench and torch, collect all the good parts and start filling it with cars to scrap other parts from

start selling off scrap metal

[safe rover]

That does make a lot of sense.

[wide karma]

Can I drink the transmission water

[true burrow]

Pour cows milk into the radiator

Is this mod on the workshop yet? I'd love to try it out

[tall tusk]

Transmission doesn't have fluid (yet), but it wouldn't be water. You can drink the radiator water ATM as there isn't any antifreeze yet (unless you've blown a headgasket, then it would be mixed with oil)

[tall tusk]

Actually allowed atm, it doesn't check for fluid type atm, I'll likely allow just about any fluid to be used for coolant, but non water/antifreeze (and a few others) will damage it

[tall tusk]

Not yet, Getting close though.

[true burrow]

Cant wait

should do an @ here when its done so anyone interested gets a ping

[tall tusk]

Will do

The enhanced physics mod will likely get released first

[true burrow]

that one of yours too?

[tall tusk]

Yes, its a java file replacement mod that totally overhauls how cars drive

and supports the swapable transmissions/torque converters/etc of this 🙂

[true burrow]

oooh

[tall tusk]

Also might change how cars start.

[true burrow]

cant wait, all of this sounds really good to me

always loved playing mechanic

a more indepth medical and mechanical system have always been a want of mine

[tall tusk]

Iv already made it so you can press and hold the key to start the engine, and it properly rotates 45 degrees for 'run' and 90 for 'start'

I might look into fully overriding the start system, so you actually have to hold the key and it will just keep trying to start till you release it (or you melt the battery/starter)

with good condition engines starting likely even faster then vanilla.. And poor condition engines? Good luck with that.

[tall tusk]

Yea, Im hoping to make it actually worthwhile to be a mechanic, especially in B42 MP

"Cars overheating, can you fix it?"

"Can you give it more power?"

"im slipping all over the road here.."

All things that don't even exist in vanilla.. the tire friction doesn't even work in vanilla, and for some reason a level 10 mechanic can install a worn old tire to have more friction then a level 0 mechanic can install a brand new performance tire.

[safe rover]

Awesome. Take your time but yeah this sounds like an amazing mod.

[tall tusk]

Rough descriptions thus far.

[tall tusk]

Air conditioner, heater core, power steering pump and brake booster now work

Prob should make it spawn most cars without air conditioners installed 🙂

[sullen ember]

When do you plan to release it ? its looking really nice

[tall tusk]

Soon(tm), need to make title images mainly and polish it up a little, then likely duplicate all the parts for the 3 car types.

[gusty jewel]

Will it be compatible with existing saves?

[lavish juniper]

There would be 3d models of vehicle parts?

[tall tusk]

I can't model, so only if someone wants to help with the project

[tall tusk]

Yep!

[tall tusk]

For performance part names, what do you guys prefer?

Cylinder head (Street)
Cylinder head (Sport)
Cylinder head (Race)

Or

Cylinder head
Cylinder head (Stage 1)
Cylinder head (Stage 2)
Cylinder head (Stage 3)

[safe rover]

By the 90s didn't most cars have ACs by then?

[tall tusk]

Depends on the area. I know I never had a car with one growing up, but then I live further north. Wouldn't buy a vehicle without it now though..

[safe rover]

Yeah, I guess it's make model and year dependent but I think most cars coming out by the 90s were having it as standard. Looking it up, by 1970 over 50% had AC, so I'd guess by the 80s and 90s it'd be the majority of cars being made.

[tall tusk]

Hu. weird.

[safe rover]

I think that'd be easier to digest and understand the differences for most.

Might depend on where you live too since this applies to the US. Other places in the world were slower to adopt AC.

[weak sinew]

absolutely loving how this is coming along, soon as this drops im making a new save 💯

[lilac coral]

make cars in trailer parks and work vehicles mostly spawn without conditioners

oh and the cars that spawn at Nolan's too since it's a used car lot

unless if you can't do that

[safe rover]

I'm just not sure by 1992 even used cars would be without AC for the most part. I think by that time most like >90% had AC.

[tall tusk]

Can't really adjust by location

[tall tusk]

Cylinder head (Street)
Cylinder head (Sport)
Cylinder head (Race) Wins. But do we want the (street) suffix? or drop it so regular cars don't have a parts list full of suffixes if they arnt upgrade parts? ie this ^ or

Cylinder head
Cylinder head (Sport)
Cylinder head (Race)
this ^

[tall tusk]

Damn, Gonna need a new one of those!

[lilac coral]

Well people would sell their ACless cars for cars with AC

[safe rover]

True, but I still think even among used cars in 1993 most would have AC in the US.

[tall tusk]

k not randomizing AC then..

[tall tusk]

"I have no idea what im doing and I think its broken"

[weak sinew]

will survivor vehicles come with a higher chance of upgraded parts and still have above 50-60% on all new parts?

[tall tusk]

Currently it bases engine parts off body part condition, so survivor cars automatically get good engine parts. I'll likely use survivor cars as the main source of upgraded parts

You can also set chance of missing engine parts seperately for normal cars and survivor cars

[weak sinew]

ill probably set survivor cars to slightly lower chance to spawn but with 100% parts installed and have normal cars be missing quite a few things

would mean either find a survivor vehicle and roll with it, or piece together a different car piece by piece

definitely loving the idea of this mod

cars are my favorite part of pz and this has gotta be one of the best vehicle mods ever for zomboid

[tall tusk]

Thanks 🙂

survivor vehicles are pretty common even on low spawn rates, Id consider making them still have a few missing parts so you gotta find some POS part to use and roll with that, hunt for better

[weak sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/mechanic-hammer-trust-me-im-a-mechanic-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-7525096

https://tenor.com/view/axanar-alecpeters-axamonitor-gif-18190675

[tall tusk]

Current part list

[lilac coral]

Alternator is labeled as "accessory" but it's basically required if you don't have a thousand batteries

[tall tusk]

Accessories in engine terms basically mean things driven off the fan belt

I decided to include the brake booster and heater core just because they fit better there then elsewhere.

You'll note the water pump is also listed there

[weak sinew]

is there still an expected time it could release?

[tall tusk]

Welp, I finally got permission I needed from a cool automotive mod maker (Filibuster), and finished my 'stop the camera from moving' hack I needed for a title image for the physics overhaul...

And we're now getting 3d models for the engine parts.

[weak sinew]

you found someone who wanted to 3d model the parts? thats awesome

will they be visual on the car itself or just on the floor to identify whats what

[weak sinew]

nevermind, didnt look close enough here

that is really beautiful to see, real engine parts

[tall tusk]

yep! Thanks @lavish juniper 🙂

hes doing an amazing job on them

[weak sinew]

both of you are doing gods work 🙏

[lavish juniper]

More cool 3d parts is in progress 🤓

[tall tusk]

Nice work!

[tall tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411074694970347530/1411756748091686943/Car_Physics2.gif?ex=68b5d06d&is=68b47eed&hm=e87b501cfb29c92e24038df54e3bfbd39f11dd1ff769ca4b5ffbca0ce42d98d7&

[safe rover]

It's awesome to see this thing developing and everyone getting hyped over it.

[tall tusk]

First part of the mod is now released 🙂

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3559765660

[tall tusk]

Project Summer Car Preview!

@here First part of the realistic mechanics mod, now known as Project Summer car is now out! Take Realistic Car Physics out for a spin!

[safe rover]

When I go to copy the folder over, should I expect 8 file replacements?

[tall tusk]

I think its about 6 and 2 new files

[safe rover]

I'll give it a go, just wanted to check.

I guess if something happens I can just follow uninstall steps and try again.

[tall tusk]

yep

[tall tusk]

Looking forward to your feedback!

[broken solstice]

Just wow. Me, and many people suggested something like that to devs in a different moments of time. Car parts system in PZ is really too simple for this game

[weak sinew]

definitely too simple and also not a good system, gotta turn multiple engines of fine cars all the way to 0 just to repair one car up a little

[tall tusk]

Proper zomboid moment:

[tall tusk]

Yep, and then have to wreck 20 cars if you wanna repair any one of those cars you just wrecked

[broken solstice]

Me when I disassemble my PC to install CPU, and now I can't assemble it back

(I'm hilariously bad at assembling anything, including half ready furniture)

[tall tusk]

@safe rover How goes testing? 🙂

[safe rover]

Haven't gotten to it yet. Went to make something to eat first.

[tall tusk]

Ah, thats what iv been doing too lol.

[safe rover]

Game crashed when I tried to get in the car. Not sure what happened.

[tall tusk]

did you enable the mod as well?

Hmmm, that doesn't crash for me.. trying it without project summer car.

try validating your files and reinstalling it?

(did you ever install better vehicle physics?)

[safe rover]

I did. I tried it on my modded week one save. yeah, I'll try doing that.

[tall tusk]

ahh I got it to crash nm

one min

apparently I added a dependency on my project summer car mod by accident.

[safe rover]

So it might be some mod conflict, it happened as soon as I tried to step into my car, the game freezes up.

[tall tusk]

nah I reproduced it

my problem is my tester always used my other mod too -_-

gimme like 15 mins

@safe rover do you want a test version or should I just update the mod?

[safe rover]

I'll just let you update it, no problem.

When you do it should just be automatic, or would I have to unsub and resub?

[tall tusk]

updated

[tall tusk]

You'll have to do the manual install again

[safe rover]

No problem. I'll do it when I get back to Zomboid, I'm going to play some Metal Gear for a bit. Thanks for the update.

[tall tusk]

np thanks for reporting back 🙂

[tall tusk]

hows it running now?

[safe rover]

So far so good. No crashes or performance stuff. The cars I have tried definetly feel different with the physics on.

[tall tusk]

Sweet 🙂

Tried any of the sandbox options?

[safe rover]

No, I saw the sandbox options as like manipulating torque and traction multipliers and the like and since I wasn't sure how the behavior would be I figured I'd just try them on their default settings and see how it feels out of the box.

[tall tusk]

Cool. They do apply immediately without reloading your save if you ever wanna mess with them 🙂

Mainly they are for balancing the physics vs how you'd like them to act (faster/slower then vanilla)

And how low condition tires you want to be usable

(right now, tire condition only affects acceleration.. because PZ devs ignore tire friction settings at some point in the C++ code)

[safe rover]

Maybe, I want to give it some time to see how I feel about them as they are before messing too much with them, and just get a feel for default vs vanilla vehicle stuff.

Pretty awesome so far though to have it feel so immediately different. They do feel a lot more responsive and powerful than vanilla to me.

[tall tusk]

Thanks for the feedback. Did you ever try better vehicle physics?

[tall tusk]

And yea, thats why I added the torque scaler, so people could scale them back down to vanilla (or even lower) if they wanted.

I'll prob try to drop the 'default' setting internally so 1.0 is about vanilla

[safe rover]

I think so, it's been a while and it might've gotten buried a little under other mods or I'd played with it so long it kinda became like the default.

[tall tusk]

Ah. Im wondering how they compare since some people are asking, but im trying not to play his mod for fear of borrowing too many ideas 🙂

[safe rover]

Maybe it'll be a collaborative effort. Like in the future for b42 stable you'll join forces and we get the Unified Realistic Car Physics. So far by comparison I think for any physics mod, yours has the most punch right out the gate. Like it feels especially when first getting going with a vehicle there's a very strong sense of acceleration.

[tall tusk]

Yea, that'll be the torque converter helping out 🙂

With Project summer car, there is even different stall torque converters to pick from

(how many RPM's your engine hits before the torque converter engages. The bigger the difference between torque converter RPM and wheel rpm, the more the torque is multiplied)

Course, having to hit a higher RPM before moving also makes the car less responsive initially and a little harder to drive 🙂

[tall tusk]

Dunno. One of the biggest differences is I refused to touch BaseVehicle and other classes

Maybe when Leaf becomes a thing, I'll change that stance since I won't have to overwrite all of BaseVehicle to make a tiny change

[tall tusk]

(Well, More of a thing everyone has)

[broken solstice]

It is gonna take them awhile to fix it

To say the least

What's your opinion on Java modding?

[tall tusk]

Q/A at least acknowledged the report!

[tall tusk]

Interesting, but good luck getting people to install your mod

[broken solstice]

Java is unsafe language just as C#, after all

[tall tusk]

Less that, more its just an extra step that most people don't want to do

[broken solstice]

Would be nice if devs thought about official Java modding, but they're probably afraid of mods with hidden malicious code

Or just don't give a fuck about modders 😛

[tall tusk]

Yea... Still trying to get more people to test my mod and leave feedback on the steam page.

[lavish juniper]

inventory icons for all parts are done

[broken solstice]

[tall tusk]

Nice work!

[torn charm]

What's wrong?

[lavish juniper]

Yea man wym

[tall tusk]

Woohoo. Made it to the front page of the workshop 🙂

[safe rover]

https://tenor.com/view/rico-yum-nice-gif-2509497699000111500

[lavish juniper]

Another feature of the mod may be a redesigned dashboard. We have developed a concept of how it will look

[lavish juniper]

Some turbo stuff

[torn charm]

This will conflict with quite a few mods

[tall tusk]

Prob have an option for what dash you wanna use

[lavish juniper]

Like what

[safe rover]

I was thinking other mods that alter the dashboard like the TPMS mod.

[tall tusk]

I feel like tire pressure is the least of your worries with my mod lol, but yea

[vital spoke]

Speedometer should stay the same

[safe rover]

At least like rounded.

[tall tusk]

Yea that would be the ahem 1960's retro dash... we'd be giving you other options as well 😛

Currently working on making rain/snow/offroading affect your traction (when accelerating)

[tall tusk]

Soon: more sandbox options for Realistic Car Physics 🙂

[tall tusk]

Remember all those mod vehicles that went too fast or too slow? Now you can fix them.. in sandbox settings!

[safe rover]

Awesome.

[vital spoke]

Does this track vehicle type?

[tall tusk]

The top 3 settings are for vehicle type, the bottom let you adjust indivual vehicles by name

[plain root]

the mod of the engine will implemented in " Car Physics"?

or is gonna be aself standing mod?

[lavish juniper]

no more wires sticking out of the keyhole. Hotwire like a boss, two states of a hotwired ignition lock, engine shut of, and engine running when wires connected

[lilac coral]

I’ll activate and do the step once I begin a new run, it may say the mod is compatible with ongoing save games but I don’t want to test that tbh, especially 2 months in

[tall tusk]

Nice, iv figured out how to make towed vehicles turn off their parking brake if you hotwire them/put the key in. Also managed to figure out how to make the back wheels of the towed vehicle visually lock up if you tow them with the parking brake on

[weak sinew]

is this part of the mechanics mod or physics mod?

[tall tusk]

Physics

Current version of the physics mod just turns the brakes off, but iv decided to spice it up a little (and leave a sandbox option if you'd just like them always off!)

Got the towed vehicle making skidding noises too now

[mellow zenith]

I actually like this mod a lot and I wish this mod added more stuff

[tall tusk]

I think you'll find it adds enough 🙂 Especially once I get around to complicating the mechanics side of it a bit more.

[safe rover]

What's the sandbox loot variable for these items when they come out? I'd assume they'd be under the mechanics category if I wanted to bump up their loot via custom sandbox options to make them spawn often?

[tall tusk]

Yea, might add my own sandbox option too for them.

[silent gyro]

just curious, maybe you could try to make the dashboard dependant on the type of car?

not sure its possible

[lavish juniper]

Yes, we have plans to make custom designs for different dashes - regular dash, sport dash, and heavy duty. I’ve made this dash design for heavy duty vehicles yesterday.

[silent gyro]

Hell yeah

[tall tusk]

Sneak peak of a WIP

[tame arrow]

Hey, weird question, but do you have a list of all your mods anywhere?

[echo junco]

@tall tusk Suggestions welcome? What about the more intricate parts of engine/frame components like the belt or bulkhead?

[tall tusk]

Already have a fanbelt, what do you mean by bulkhead?

[tall tusk]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Black_Moons/myworkshopfiles/?appid=108600

[echo junco]

Bulkhead on the frame or are you not doing car frames?

[tall tusk]

Not doing car frames, There is already that vehicle accessory mod for external parts

and most mod vehicles have external parts

[tall tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411074694970347530/1413512879776206938/image.png?ex=68bc33f4&is=68bae274&hm=6df1aa34c82afd033671f15411b3dcf2f0f12a4a032bf1f141f07787380edc1c&

[tall tusk]

You can now swap between dashes by the V context menu.

[weak sinew]

so you can change which dash u wanna use for every car mid game?

[tall tusk]

Yep!

[weak sinew]

will vanilla dash still be an option for all vehicles?

[tall tusk]

Yep!

Iv added a temp gauge to vanilla dash as well, and some mouseover features for engine temp/oil/etc

[weak sinew]

thats awesome all of your mods have so much effort in them i started using beefcake yesterday too

[tall tusk]

Thanks!

[weak sinew]

just absolutely loving the sheer amount of effort to fix bugs and make the game better and compatible too

[tall tusk]

Aww, it really means a lot to hear that!

[weak sinew]

well i cant do much else but show support by saying it and i truly do love the mods

[tall tusk]

give beefcake an upvote if you haven't 🙂 It could use some more.

[weak sinew]

will do

[tall tusk]

was my first mod and didn't get as good of a launch as realistic car physics

(also did less when it came out)

need to release an update to it soon actually, have a few things updated/fixed

[severe burrow]

nice, link?

[tall tusk]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3543815008

[weak sinew]

not sure if its a problem with car physics or my game but i cant turn on this car i hotwired

when you replace files its just moving the entire "zombie" folder from the physics mod and moving into the project zomboid folder right?

then replace 4 files?

[tall tusk]

New hotwire graphic:

[weak sinew]

i mean theres mod options and i can enable the mod so it should be working

[tall tusk]

click the engine or press N

[weak sinew]

just for some reason i cant turn on this car at all

ill try that i relaunched the save

it wouldnt initiate startup of the engine i forgot to press n though

[tall tusk]

Sorry, its going to be an option for next version 🙂 I disabled autostart on W cause cars don't start when you hit the gas pedal lol

[weak sinew]

that makes sense

[tall tusk]

(IRL)

[weak sinew]

clicking the wires didnt do anything either so i figured it was a bug

[tall tusk]

and it adds so much tension when you stall out or get into a car

[weak sinew]

and i forgot the N keybind existed

[tall tusk]

clicking engine also works, clicking wires will be project summer car thing 🙂

[weak sinew]

so clicking the wires in the ignition doesnt work for now either?

[tall tusk]

Hotwired, but off

it never did?

[weak sinew]

idk i thought clicking the wires or the key would try to startup the car

[tall tusk]

Nope, thats something im adding (long click)

in vanilla it just insert/removes the key!

[weak sinew]

alright sweet thanks

the N keybind worked

i was being a silly goose

[tall tusk]

No problem, nobody really knows about that or clicking engine, LOL

but the key SHOULD work yaknow?

but instead, they went with W because... I dunno, I guess they have never seen how a car works before

[weak sinew]

first time driving a car with the mod and it feels nice especially turning

idk if its just placebo but turning feels different, better even

[tall tusk]

yea I tweaked steering responce a little

can't do much about front tire understeer, but I did make it turn a little faster at high speed

[weak sinew]

seems like an improvement upon vanilla to me

[tall tusk]

yea I spent some time tweaking it, trying to get it to not skid so much, then gave up and made it so the skid sound only depends on the rear tires that are much harder to break loose in a turn, lol

Essentially, your skidding the front tires like 90% of the time in zomboid when your turning..

except for at veryyy low speeds

[weak sinew]

feels much easier to make smaller adjustments without overshooting entirely or having to tap a and d over and over

[tall tusk]

Oh, I also adjusted the return speed

[weak sinew]

im just effortlessly swerving through zombies in the grass

[tall tusk]

before, the return speed was the same reguardless of how fast you where going, but you got a major nerf in how fast you turned the wheel

at higher speeds

and WORSE, before when you suddenly went from left to right, it TURNED BACK SLOWER lol

I made it so that the return speed is enhanced when you suddenly go from right to left on the steering

[tall tusk]

Next version lets you set custom friction multiplers for offroad, raining and snow 🙂

[weak sinew]

next update will be peak

didnt modify any settings and it seems pretty balanced right now

havent inflated the tires yet and this car is kind of a POS but it runs at least

[tall tusk]

Project summer car will fix that. 😛

[mellow zenith]

when this will be released

[tall tusk]

Few days. Just finishing up the UI, some spawn tables for the oil cans/etc and should be ready for initial release 🙂

Will be trying to make the dashboard based on a simple table that other mods can add to, so other mods can easily add their own dashboard without any code/conflict with other dashboards

[safe rover]

Yeah it took a minute to get over the muscle memory.

[tall tusk]

I think it will be nice with the 'hold click' on ignition for starting.

[tall tusk]

Hmmm.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1402747925347434496/1414123998693953566/image.png?ex=68be6d1a&is=68bd1b9a&hm=bc50d9e055d1f9e3d6e4b02af1bbb968afddf4c88c706db2eb7c01c8abe103c2&

what vehicle to use for my project summer car logo...

[safe rover]

Maybe like a gif of someone driving with the hood down.

https://tenor.com/view/houshou-marine-gawr-gura-shinkiro-mv-car-gif-3140035257502205662

Just put in "Summer driving" and saw this for example.

https://tenor.com/view/driving-la-guida-summertime-stagione2-season2-gif-21713495

Got this just for "Summer Car"

[tall tusk]

You've never played my summer car?

[tame arrow]

Niceee

did you end up adding the tool tips that explain what each part does?

[tall tusk]

Not yet.

[safe rover]

Clearly not.

[tall tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411074694970347530/1414356708477767720/My_summer_Car_2.gif?ex=68bf45d4&is=68bdf454&hm=85f8e1b6bfd822aebe96d8d74e21e7f0f71d86990df64d793ed48745d9fcd1ba&

[tall tusk]

New realistic car phyiscs update just dropped 🙂

[safe rover]

Awesome.

[tall tusk]

@here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3564950449

[safe rover]

Awesome, glad to see it's out.

[tall tusk]

Thanks!

Can't wait for some feedback 🙂

[tame arrow]

so, small problem

the text for the torque converter gets cut off

and you can't expand the UI window horizontally

here's my UI settings

[tall tusk]

Noted, will definately have to poke at that a bit

not sure what I can do about the torque converter but at least the tooltips could be less borked.

(does at least tell you what is important)

Might look into horzontal expansion to

@tame arrow Whatch think so far?

[tame arrow]

Pretty neat, where can I find more of the vehicle fluids? I'm assuming mechanics shops and the like?

[tall tusk]

mechanics shops, home garages, and drain them from other cars 🙂

Note oil gets contaminated with used oil, so not all oil you find in cars will be usable

[tame arrow]

Gotcha

Do I need to let my car warm up for a minute before driving? I remember my dad told me that was a thing that was important with older cars (sorry if these are dumb questions, I know nothing about cars)

[tall tusk]

Not simulated at all in this mod. Older cars had less horsepower when cold and technically would damage them a bit to drive hard while cold but mainly just the lowered HP

heater doesn't work till the engine is warm though

[tame arrow]

This is really cool just reading the tooltips and looking at the parts honestly

I'm based near a junkyard atm so I have plenty of cars I can tear apart without caring about

[tall tusk]

Nice 🙂

[tame arrow]

I also really like how this encourages you to have only a handful of cars you take care of

instead of how in vanilla where once you get to the point of hotwiring you can trash cars at will since you can always just grab another

[tall tusk]

lol. try the missing part options for serious issues doing that 🙂

[tame arrow]

like this car is never going to run well, so there's no point

I will still it's hood though

[tall tusk]

Or just increase the engine part condition variation.

[tame arrow]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2841981605&searchtext=reduce+car+condition

already running this, which seems to work with the engine parts

[tall tusk]

Yeaaa, Finally junkers actually DRIVE LIKE JUNKERS 🙂

[tall tusk]

It bases engine part condition when you first open the hood/get in by body part condition

so yea, should detect that mods actions well

[tame arrow]

ahhh, that would be what it is

[tall tusk]

(it has an override for survivor cars too)

[tame arrow]

I have survivor cars disabled anyhow

I don't like finding mint condition cars, I like scavanging parts to put together a nice one

[tall tusk]

Have fun finding racing parts 🙂 they are like 1% for regular cars

[tame arrow]

I take it racing parts are the best ones, like preformance for regular parts?

[tall tusk]

yep

normal < sport < racing

theres 6 parts that have upgrades atm (not including transmissions and torque converters)

4 parts improve hp, 1 part improves cooling and 1 part improves engine responce (flywheel weight)

PS: If you have the W900 semi truck mod, 8 speed transmissions spawn in it 🙂

(need to get KI5/filibuster support for their semi trucks and stuff..)

[tame arrow]

HP would be horsepower here, not health points?

So it makes the car go faster, not the part last longer, right?

[tall tusk]

Correct.

everything atm just has 100 condition

Do note: collisions with under 25% hood will start to transfer damage to engine parts

[tame arrow]

Gotcha, I always try to take car of the hook anyways since repairing the vanilla engine is already hard

[tall tusk]

Yep, thankfully with all the parts the engine has a LOT more healthpoints now

And prob takes less vehicles being ripped apart to fix

Mechanic skill is now easier too for engine parts (may expand to body work)

you don't fail installing/removing a part. But at low skill it takes a LONG time, and has a high chance of damaging the part in the process

(But at least you get it out/in and can move on with your life!)

no clicking 10 times over just to watch the part turn to dust

[safe rover]

Would all the new parts and fluids fall under the mechanics loot category for sandbox loot adjustments?

[tall tusk]

Fluids fall under mechanics yes, ATM parts don't spawn outside of cars

[safe rover]

That alone is a blessing.

[tall tusk]

I was reasonably generous with fluid distribution, especially oil, so you should be fine (there is a 4L and 10L oil can)

and mousing over the oil gauge gives you a fluid level/quality if 'smart oil indicator' is turned on

(It also warns you at 50% and 30% engine oil quality (<30% = damage to engine parts)

Other random fun stuff; the battery guage warns you of a low battery with the key in, and of a bad alternator (or fan belt) when the engine is running.

also how much it jumps when the engine starts running = how much the alternator is charging

if it doesn't pass the mid point with the engine running, you likely got a problem

[tame arrow]

I did notice that there is still a chance to hurt the part even when well above the reccomended mechanics skill. I had 4 skill and still had like a 15% chance of damaging parts that had 2 skill listed as the removal requirement

[tall tusk]

yea, I have it setup so recommended skill is 20% chance, 10 skill is 0%

(linear from 80% at 0 skill to 20% at recommended to 0% at 10)

Also, the 'chance of damage' is also how much damage you might do (at 1x damage scale)

(rand between 0 and chance of damage)

[tame arrow]

[tall tusk]

so at level 0 you'll on avg do 40% damage removing and 40% damage installing a part. but you can at least get lucky

Vanilla.. well, other then the bug I found where failing on uninstall ALWAYS damages a part, is really biased against early levels

people just don't even try mechanic till they grind it up till like 4+

I can't blame them either, Vanilla 30% cars are basically the exact same as 100% cars

drive the same, accelerate the same, steer the same, brake the same.

(oh im sorry, I think braking is the one thing thats actually properly simulated in vanilla PZ.. that and suspension condition)

My frist experience playing my mod and driving a 30% junker.. it revs to the redline and... Sloowwwly accelerates. It starts to finally get into 2nd.. and can't accelerate any higher... and then it starts getting... slower.. on account of the lack of oil.

it dies a few blocks later. 😛

[tall tusk]

But yea. I wanted to make the recommended skill 'compent but not perfect' so there is still good reason to get to level 10. Speed depends a lot on recommended level and player level

hard stuff takes longg time (but I feel thats OK without the constant failures to actually complete the task)

also, 15% chance to damage means you have a 15% chance of doing 0~15% damage, so basically your only gonna occasionally scratch the part 😉

(so something like an average damage of 2% per uninstall and 2% per install or something)

[tame arrow]

sounds good then

[tall tusk]

yea its just to give you some tiny incentive to hit level 10

I dislike it when zomboid is like "oh you hit level 7/8? Now you have absolutely zero reason to level higher"

[tame arrow]

electrical where there's no point in leveling past 3:

[tall tusk]

yeaa basically.

[storm isle]

i just keep going because i like collecting watches and batch-disassemble. sometimes its the only reward for killing a big horde of zomboids.

[limber dagger]

can you make cars can be explode

[tall tusk]

Not really sorry.

[safe rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/1hSksVVtAn
People are starting to see it on reddit.

[tall tusk]

Sweet! Glad to see it 🙂

[verbal burrow]

🙏 godsend of a mod came out, thank you for you work. This mod will be awsome for a car guy like me.

question, do custom cars work yet, or is it only vanilla cars?

[safe rover]

Works with modded cars.

KI5 and Filibusters specifically mentioned along with others.

[verbal burrow]

epic

[broken dust]

I have a question about your vehicle physics mod, is it compatible with modded cars?

KI5 vehicles for example

[safe rover]

Yes.

Not him but yes. It's all KI5 compatible.

[broken dust]

Alright

[tall tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136501320340209664/1415004898516271215/download.gif?ex=68c1a181&is=68c05001&hm=74a4e30a8a3e3b1ac25e1de06dbf417d3d9103c9599d2abcaeaeb872c90fcc5b&

[safe rover]

First right on the front page now.

[tall tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbsup-megumin-chomusuke-konosuba-anime-gif-25369023

[plucky anchor]

there will be an update for b41? 🙁

[tall tusk]

I don't play B41 so dunno.

[covert heart]

I was about to ask the same thing, dunno if it's doable. But man the man looks INSANE, if you could also bring this in B41 which is a lot of work, we'd be incredibly happy

[tall tusk]

The big problem is it will need to work in MP and MP in 41 will act quite differently then MP in 42 so it will be a huge amount of duplicated work that will be pointless once B42 MP comes out.

that would also massively delay me adding new features to the mod itself.

[safe rover]

I want to say it was also nice that you had your own error message in game, or at least I think it is to update realistic physics.

[tall tusk]

Yea, I decided it would be important to remind people to prevent excessive error reports

[safe rover]

Yeah, a lot of people wouldn't go that extra step. I saw the added sandbox options and thought it was all good but yeah I need to do the manual file update too.

[tall tusk]

important since one version of the mod would crash when you get into the car if you haven't checked under the hood yet 😛

(the alert WAS when you entered the car.. but decided to add an hourly alert too since yaknow.. hard to see if the mod crashes when you get into the car)

[safe rover]

I somehow managed to avoid a crash, but still thought it was a nice touch.

[tall tusk]

Thanks

[covert heart]

Yeah I guessed as much, we'll wait it out, no biggie. Plus, B42 with MP is out soon, right? RIGHT?!

[tall tusk]

Soon enough 🙂

[broken dust]

I want to suscribe to the mod but at the same time it feels too complex

[tame arrow]

it's not that bad!

the tooltips explain what each part does and what happens if it's in low condition

so long as you take good care of your car you'll be fine

I knew nothing about cars and I'm managing

[safe rover]

Plus I like that it's realistic. You'd be totally dependent on your own mechanical skills for better or worse to keep any vehicle going, and screwing up something simple could really impact your movement and options.

So not changing the oil or whatever could be what leaves you stranded on a road surrounded.

[tall tusk]

Even makes lots of the vanilla body parts matter more (tires, brakes, hood, windshield)

Can't wait for someone to ask why they are getting soaking wet for driving without a windshield in the rain :0

PS roll down some windows and drive fast if your too hot and the AC is broken 😛

[tall tusk]

basically the game splits the engine parts into 2 types: the parts that make you go, and the parts that keep you going.

Keep em all above 50% and its much like vanilla

[broken dust]

Ah

Alright

That seems.. simple enough

[tall tusk]

Yea. If you find a junker car (like those 30% cars that are all smashed in), just pass on it unless your desperate or want parts for smelting.

Fun comes in when you hit stuff with a bad hood 🙂 or kill the battery.

[broken dust]

[tall tusk]

New version of realistic Car physics is out! Now with manual shifting 🙂

[silent gyro]

wrong chat

lol

[safe rover]

Is manual shifting the default or only for certain models, and does it have a sandbox option if I prefer most cars being automatic?

[tall tusk]

Right now its a mod option you can change at any time 🙂

To keep game balance, right now it just lets you set the current gear of the automatic transmission. So its perfectly balanced to turn on/off at any time and use any car with/without it.

And right now automatic shifting is the default.

[tall tusk]

Where you interested in manual mode or dreading it? 😛

[safe rover]

Little bit of both.

[tall tusk]

Hah, well now you don't have to worry.

[safe rover]

I take it this requires to reload the manual files again, in the zombie folder?

[tall tusk]

Yep

[lilac coral]

you think it'll drive?

[tall tusk]

haha.. no.

"And the customer refused all repairs and drove away... Somehow"

[lilac coral]

I just noticed the engine has 1.4 horsepower 😭

[tall tusk]

Pretty sure my lawnmower has more

that thing needs 2 more parts to start and 4 more to reach the end of the block

[lilac coral]

yo I think Common Sense is messing with the check engine light

since that mod has a built in one

I have a perpetual orange light with a single 39% part

[tall tusk]

Yes, it goes off engine condition and thats is based on the lowest condition critical part.

Get it above 50% to get it to turn off.

[lilac coral]

so it's intentional

alright

[tall tusk]

Im in voice if you wanna join and stream

[lilac coral]

alright, I'm using Fili's pack

[gusty jewel]

What are the exact differences in all the transmissions for heavy duty vehicles?

[tall tusk]

Different number of gears, different gear ratios (for the HT4S vs 4S)

[gusty jewel]

Would the HT4S increase torque and decrease top speed?

[tall tusk]

It has a lower 1st/2nd/3rd gear but the 4th is actually the same so it just accelerates very slowly once it hits 4th but still has the same top speed

[tall tusk]

Note: Nothing is stopping mods from adding their own transmissions with custom gear counts/ratios

[fierce laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-summer-car-main-menu-screen-foxtrot12-satsuma-satsuma-amp-gif-2867271515416599601

[tall tusk]

Project summer car. Not my summer car. For legal reasons, totally different.

[fierce laurel]

Totally...

[tall tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908459714248048730/1417859990651146340/image.png?ex=68cc0484&is=68cab304&hm=7a14ac2ee4192329793ee3c41d4c04f3e5e28975f0849c84ada21834b6b43484&

Junkyard upgrade.

[safe rover]

https://youtu.be/xFVKQt1TGTA?si=LkG2xWa98pKmpNuM

[tall tusk]

Sweet video 🙂

[safe rover]

Your mods are starting to get some attention to it. Hoping to see it on Atomic Duck's channel whenever he does his next mods video.

[tall tusk]

awesome, lemme know if you see any other videos!

[safe rover]

No problem.

[covert heart]

Why does this mod have to look cool as fuuuuuuuck?

[tall tusk]

lol thanks

[lavish juniper]

Game changer.😎

[covert heart]

I wanna play it so bad

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-strangle-kill-you-angry-heated-gif-14521529

[tall tusk]

Just download B42 beta 🙂

Its out now.

[covert heart]

It has no mp 🙁

[tall tusk]

Mp is overrated.

[covert heart]

just like sex

[tall tusk]

Found another video on the mod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU0453TZVVs

[tall tusk]

@here New version of Summer car out 🙂 New part spawning system, new dashboard and better translation support.

[lilac coral]

I’m assuming that the car physics mod needs a reinstall

[tall tusk]

Kinda, I updated it as well but nothing important enough to require updating it if your not using a gamepad.

[lilac coral]

Sweet

[tall tusk]

If you are using a gamepad.. Analog throttle/brakes now available!

If you arnt using a gamepad.. Uh, better cruise control?

[covert heart]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-the-clown-dnd-gif-7199959581989019233

[safe rover]

So I was considering this mod but I saw on the page that it calls for a manual install of things similar to Summer Car mod, and has it paste to go over the zombie folder. Might need to look into it but decided against it for now since that seems like that could easily cause a conflict with Summer Car/ Realistic Physics since they're messing with the same folder.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568442599

[tall tusk]

Doubt it overrides the same file, since I only change carcontroller my mod will be compatable with any other non-car java mod

[safe rover]

Awesome. I'll probably maybe give it a try on my next run whenever that is then with both of them on and let you know if anything happens. Might be some time from now.

[tall tusk]

Cool.

[weak sinew]

did the newest hotfix break this mod?

not sure if its something on my end but all my ki5 cars have no extra engine components and the mod is properly installed

i also have realistic car physics

nvm, it should be working. i've no idea why its not

it shows up in mod options just fine, maybe theres a mod conflict or something to do with load order?

[weak sinew]

i changed load order and still nothing, is there a sandbox mod option i need to check?

nevermind again, got it working now

[tall tusk]

Glad you got it working. What was the issue?

[weak sinew]

my iq

it was probably working from the start, i just didnt right click the engine.

[tall tusk]

ah.

[weak sinew]

either automechanics or this mod is not letting me inflate my tires

i get tons of errors when right clicking

[lilac coral]

I don’t think this mod is meant to be ran with other mechanics mods

[tall tusk]

thats any pre B42.12 vehicle. Not this mod.

[weak sinew]

it gives me errors from vanilla, your mod and automechanics and im unable to fill tires with air. is the air glitch because the cars havent been updated and not because of your mod?

[weak sinew]

automechanics doesnt alter mechanics in any way. just lets you take on/off parts automatically

[lilac coral]

ah

[weak sinew]

not sure why i cant fill air in my tires still but if its not project summer car then its likely the car mods themself

i use ki5 vehicles and they might not be updated

psc only adds extra engine stuff, it shouldnt be whats messing with the wheels

[tall tusk]

ki5 is updated, project summer car is updated for B42.12. other car mods are not. please for the love of god stop bothering me about this. Do not report mods if you haven't even bothered to test if the bug occurs without them! unless your objective is to make people no longer wish to work on mods anymore.

[weak sinew]

sorry, just trying to figure out the problem

[broken dust]

hello, i installed realistic car phyisics as said in the description, but ive seen a message in game saying realistic car physics is not installed properly.

[tall tusk]

Then you copied it to the wrong location.

[devout birch]

It would be super funny if a bunch of parts were named ??? If you had a shit mechanics skill.