zombroid gore concept

[karmic zenith]

did some testing with alpha masks and whatnot and i think this could look pretty good for gore

with like, actual alpha masks that cut off parts of the arm ofc

not dynamic that could look wack

[warm pagoda]

Creating a mod or just playing with it?

[hidden onyx]

Fire

[karmic zenith]

just playing with the concept

would reduce the need for model variations as its all just textures

[fluid basin]

would be so cool to see this in game

[safe pumice]

I think this should be vanilla, would be very terrifying

[steep nymph]

please add this gore so that when I hit some stupid little zomboid while going 125 in a semi truck it not just ragdolls, but its parts go flying everywhere

[warm pagoda]

I don't think that's realistically possible to add

[fluid basin]

probably not but would be fun to be hacking at a zed and having them fall apart

[fluid kettle]

bro, if this was in vanilla, it wouldve been so good.

[marsh lion]

relese date?

its what i wanted for soo long

also vissible wounds on ur character would be cool too

[woven wing]

key word: concept

[karmic zenith]

i think this is the most plausible and efficient way to add it

having a layered model with an alpha cutaway mask to reveal the inner layers means no modelling for stump or wound variation

all you would need is a fleshy inner texture, blood texture, and the skeleton model

[young sand]

I dig this, I just wish it was possible to do this in PZ

[hidden onyx]

It’s possible, just not within the current engine

Just like driving on ramps wasn’t possible before

[karmic zenith]

i mean it could be done using vanilla techniques

you would need models for the dismembered body parts though

[karmic zenith]

if i find the time i could probably make a more finished concept and ill send the blend file here if anyone wants to play around / do anything with it

[safe pumice]

I heard that with B41 should have been released AnimZed, that theoretically should help a lot with animation and models.

May be this will help. It have been confirmed for post 42 some time a go... Also if unfortunately Dev didn't answered anymore about this topic so... Who know ...

[stuck lynx]

anything is possible with lua

[young sand]

Maybe with LUA, but not models

[stuck lynx]

u never know 🤫

[karmic zenith]

actually, even the models wouldnt need variants

you would just need a disconnected variant of each limb like the arm

then you can apply the opposite map to cut off the other part of the arm to get it to line up

so with 1 model you can get the severed hand, severed upper arm and severed lower arm

[karmic zenith]

wip dynamic tearing

using a noise texture and various math nodes the edge of the severed bit now has little jagged edges

[karmic zenith]

got it to where the clothes above the "stump" get torn up

alr, got blood and got it to remove the part

biggest issue is that the inside of the mesh is visible as shown above

easiest way to fix that would just to have the inside of the mesh be a fleshy material or something like that

oddly enough the skeleton model does nOT fit inside the character model lol

i deal with this by just hiding the rest of the skeleton and only showing parts i need to

anyways, basically this model is just made up of seperated limb parts

for full portions of the body dismembered you just disable it

(ignore the unaligned skeleton textures lol)

[whole nexus]

do more concept make a zombie without head

[jovial sorrel]

This is legit very cool

[quaint trout]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bag-with-one-cookie-in-it-gif-11028787417335145498

[hidden onyx]

They seem to be adding a lot of stuff that they haven’t teased before so hopefully it’ll be that

[verbal rampart]

thats scary

[cinder heron]

need need

[marsh lion]

yes we need it

would be cool if zombies when u die could rip ur arm off

[hidden onyx]

bro keep copoking this is awesome

[cinder heron]

we need it lol

[bright hornet]

would that make you unconscious losing so much blood just cut two arms don't think give you much time to do it

[marsh lion]

that would be cool and one thing thats missing from pz is that being uncosnios

[ripe stump]

this + ragdolls would make melee fights really satisfaying

[hidden onyx]

Bump

[bright hornet]

za pipe bomb BOOOM

[hexed ice]

please make this a thing

[chrome river]

Any updates on this? @karmic zenith

[karmic zenith]

ive been workin on other stuff but i get back today from my vacay and lowkey it would be neat to create some more variation

might create 2 files: one is a blend file with the "dynamic gore" shader i made, other will be pre-made body parts for anyone who wants to use em

ill have to make a couple custom textures for the meat stumps and organs and whatnot but idc about usage

[chrome river]

I see I see, looking forward to seeing what you add

[karmic zenith]

man im dead

[winged coyote]

I love it, it makes the game more detailed and getting devoured by fellow humans should be gory and bleak

also, atmospheric story telling would be greatly increased

cannibalistic tribe offering false sanctuary?

horrible car crash?

tribal warning?

battle to the bitter end?

hell yeah.

Never let anyone dull your sparkle, keep it up dude

[chrome river]

I can only imagine how crazy it would be to see your player get ripped limb by limb like that one guy in Shaun of the Dead

[plush oar]

thats rly cool

[cinder heron]

I'm saying this now PZ would be 100 times more fun chopping limbs and stuff like that

But my question is how would it work on other bodies like custom ones like tomb and ava or others

[wary karma]

we are getting l4d gore inside zomboid before b43 💔

[carmine quest]

Wow

[karmic zenith]

if the dismemberment works like how they said it will work in game, itll just be dynamic and wont matter the skin

in this case however the mod developers would need to make custom gibs

[cinder heron]

ahh ok

got any for the female models yet or just male so far

[karmic zenith]

i lowkey didnt even think about that

thanks for telling me

ill work on some female gibs today

[cinder heron]

heehhe u owe me a high five

[karmic zenith]

ok so i was being kinda evil and flat shading it to hide the noticeable seams but now i fixed that so i dont have to do that anymore

[karmic zenith]

ok got the textures done

is it an optimized sheet? no

does it look good?
...

no

but will it work? yes

insanely stupid uvs i know but im just testing rn

[cinder heron]

tbh i just cant wait for this mod to be live

i think it would be up there with week one and other high tire mods tbh

[karmic zenith]

well id need someone who knows java to be willin to help and whatnot since im just a modeller

[cinder heron]

I would just ask somebody that's like good with it as long as you give like some sort to creator wombo combo workshop thing I bet they would do it

[karmic zenith]

the main goal is to release all this stuff (in a more polished state) here so modders and creators can do whatever they want with it

all i ask for is model credit

moreso texture credit i guess... the models are just edited pz models

later i have an idea for a gnarly lookin tear effect on the ends of the stumps but i gotta work on other stuff before that lol

[karmic zenith]

just a couple more variations

[cinder heron]

ooooooooooo

[rotund thunder]

This is so cool!

[shrewd panther]

oh hell yeah!

[fluid kettle]

I wonder if this will become a mod

[cinder heron]

it wuld be up there if it was

[craggy wyvern]

dynamic zombie decapitation would be so much fun. (Even if would just be random parts poping off).

Maybe could be paired with a mod that let you attack high/medium/low or something.

need to get away? chop off the legs. Want to kill/disarm them? aim high. Got no weapon skill? Go for the guaranteed middle hit, you won't miss!

even without custom attack animations, it would be really cool affecting their speed/attack and your damage to them.

[peak tendon]

It would be very cool if they kept attacking with missing limbs, but with the way the animation system works the amount of work needed to do that would be insane

...maybe if they are missing arms they do the default grab animations anyway but nothing happens.

[peak tendon]

Why java? Any mods that touch java are a lot more work for both the modder and users, so you need to be very keen to make and maintain a java mod.

Has any of this been made to work in Project Zomboid, or is it just all in Blender so far?

[odd loom]

my idea was a fullsuit swap for any damage caused ^ basically

[karmic zenith]

blendar

[karmic zenith]

ideally the dismemberment would leave physical bodyparts on the ground that you can do whatev with so i would need to figure out that

i also have a couple ideas for blood pooling (just an animated image) under bodies

[peak tendon]

I recommend trying a basic PZ implementation, because dune of the ideas on this thread will hit the limits of what Lua modding be can do.

[craggy wyvern]

Improvised weapon!

[marsh lion]

it would be cool if this was mod and it was using that rrly cool ragdoll system

[distant path]

e^2

[white ginkgo]

This would be perfect to go with Slayer's decapitation mod if they're compatible.

[exotic quest]

Does this concept manipulate textures only or alao the 3d models? I also tried to implement something like that but just for the head (decapitation). I am convinced that ita possible to introduce to the game aslong as it only manipulates the textures only

[stuck lynx]

i saw a project zomboid model mod for the L4D1/2 survivors, likely if you or someone else changes the zombie models in that game they or you could use these gore models

[marsh lion]

so this is slowly becoming an mod?

[karmic zenith]

i havent been playing pz much recently so im not sure

still willing to fix up what i have and release it tho

as models, not a mod

[sly lion]

just came acroos this and those models look sick. something like this would be amazing if it could pair with the amputation mod. one of my biggest gripes with that one is how the stumps mess with clothing masks

like so

[marsh lion]

well maybe if ill learn more lua/javascript i could try