it seems ive done way too many skills. im new to the game and googlng around people dont pick as much as i did, however this is for a duo server so i figured more negative traits was a good idea
#is my build bad?
sonic rain
glacial fulcrum
It is fine, but I'm not fan of keen hearing. It is not as useful as one might think
sonic rain
from what i read online, doesnt it give u a bit of visibility behind
my first char died from a runner that came up out of nowhere
while we both turned around for split second .lol
limpid sandal
You can do without "brawler" + "speed demon" + "clumsy"
sonic rain
i only went brawler because i enjoyed fucking up zombies with a shovel
i wanted to get like more oomph
speed demon is really just coz ive too many points
isnt clumsy broken online? in sense of like kinda useless
limpid sandal
It comes with time, if your character lives long enough. It's not worth assigning points to it.
limpid sandal
isnt clumsy broken online? in sense of like kinda useless
Whats build are you on?
limpid sandal
That's B41 then.
sonic rain
should we upgrade to 42?
limpid sandal
should we upgrade to 42?
If you plan on playing multiplayer, then you can't since B42 has no MP.
sonic rain
ahh fuck. i thought clumsy is just the noise thing
limpid sandal
Speed demon will get you killed in the sense that you end up driving way too fast and you are going to crash and die from injuries.
sonic rain
yeah definitely dont want the rng to kill me
limpid sandal
ahh fuck. i thought clumsy is just the noise thing
Nope.
sonic rain
yeah i remember once when i bought the game i had clumsy on, some updates ago
and tripped over SLOWLY hopping over hte fence
limpid sandal
and tripped over SLOWLY hopping over hte fence
That's the one.
Now imagine you're in the middle of a fight with several zombies, and you decide to lay down...
sonic rain
yeah defo removing that
speed demon i picked coz i read its good for towing. and that i can just set cruise control
limpid sandal
yeah defo removing that
speed demon i picked coz i read its good for towing. an...
Nah. You just need to use a car with enough power, even without speed demon, and you're good to go for towing.
sonic rain
it sucks they dont specify exactly what the skill does
limpid sandal
What really messes with towing is Sunday Driver. Avoid that, unless you really need the points.
sonic rain
yeah i heard its a trap
is short sighted no longer free points, with glasses? did they buff it ?
limpid sandal
is short sighted no longer free points, with glasses? did they buff it ?
On B41, I always picked that one. It's easy points and not as reworked as it is on B42.
sonic rain
ah so in b42 they buffed it. ok
limpid sandal
On B42, your screen literally goes blurry when not wearing prescription glasses.
sonic rain
but then, if i have keen hearing does that fuck with the cone if i have glasses on ?
visual cone
limpid sandal
but then, if i have keen hearing does that fuck with the cone if i have glasses ...
Nope. They don't work against each other.
Keen hearing helps with you being able to see a zombie from the behind your character much sooner
glad lantern
i think weak skin and prone to illness are just a bad combo really
sonic rain
i thought so too pero but then i played and tbh its not that bad
glad lantern
and slow healer, oof
glad lantern
i thought so too pero but then i played and tbh its not that bad
well if you see nothing wrong so its fine
sonic rain
like if u get hit regardless whether you have those debuffs theres always a chance of being infected
or am i misunderstanding the game
limpid sandal
i think weak skin and prone to illness are just a bad combo really
Well, if we all follow the basic advise of PZ, which is: "The best defence is to not get hit..."
sonic rain
and if u have clothes and they get ripped you should fix them
glad lantern
no thats true, but if you have good clothes they rip the clothes and not you
limpid sandal
So thin skinned and slow healer isn't a factor, if you don't get hit.
glad lantern
and prone to illness i think gives 25% more zombification chance
glad lantern
Well, if we all follow the basic advise of PZ, which is: **"The best defence is ...
so true
thats in the art of zomboid book
sonic rain
anyways its just a first run, if i find that i get infected by every possible hit maybe ill take them off when i die
well, 3rd run
glad lantern
if you're learning these new stuff thats the best option really
limpid sandal
Well, you'll most likely never stick to one build anyway, so it's worth trying out.
You'll find your favourites by testing them all out.
sonic rain
i do like the strength and long blunt skills tho
the extra weight and satisfaction from killing zombies is so good
instead of hitting them 4 times u hit them once
even if theyre set to fragile
we found that having like quantity set to above average with random mix of runners and fragile zombies seems to be the best
limpid sandal
You also have to be in a position where you compromise on some traits.
Some traits can be gained during playthrough, so no need to select them at creation.
sonic rain
i read online that underweight is free points but the weaker strength is making me worried
like, ignoring weight
it does literally decrease your strength, so it cant be as good as people say it is ?
AND prone to injury
that sounds cancer
limpid sandal
i read online that underweight is free points but the weaker strength is making ...
Do not pick unfit or underweight, cos you don't know how long it will take to gain those.
limpid sandal
AND prone to injury
It's "Prone to illness" and it's not as bad as it sounds, so long as you don't eat poison mushrooms or something like that.
sonic rain
It's "Prone to illness" and it's not as bad as it sounds, so long as you don't e...
no no, underweight is also prone to injury apparently
limpid sandal
no no, underweight is also prone to injury apparently
I never used it, and can't confidently recommend you do that to yourself.
Unless you're doing something like a deaf or blind run. LOL
sonic rain
yeah np. i dont like the sound of it anyways
so i dont wanna
yeah haha
i remember deaf used to be free points too
but now it sucks apparently
limpid sandal
but now it sucks apparently
Some players are suckers for punishment, or they just love testing things out.
I can't think of anything worse than being blind or deaf during a zombie apocalypse. 
sonic rain
claustrophobic must be pretty ok to manage tbh
but i already have cowardly so probably too op
limpid sandal
claustrophobic must be pretty ok to manage tbh
I can't recall. I used it very few times on B41. So not too sure on clauso and agoro
limpid sandal
but i already have cowardly so probably too op
Cowardly is just annoying, cos of the moodle that'll keep popping up during those hectic moments, and it does affect combat.
sonic rain
when i played with it yesterday before i died, it seemed quite ok tbh
and apparently eventually your char gets used to it ?
limpid sandal
and apparently eventually your char gets used to it ?
I've never taken it enough to know. But ther are mods that make you lose traits (like the "More Traits" mod). But I don't think it's native to Vanilla.
On B42 I use a mod called "Become Desensitised" and that one will add that trait after a certain amount kills.
glad lantern
and apparently eventually your char gets used to it ?
your char does get "used" to panic
as time goes on, panic still rises but decreases much faster
limpid sandal
your char does get "used" to panic
On B41?
glad lantern
yea
limpid sandal
Ok. Didn't know.
glad lantern
me neither, i never lived long enough to notice that
but a guy with a high rank said that so i believe him
limpid sandal
me neither, i never lived long enough to notice that
I just never bothered with it.
limpid sandal
I only pick negative traits I know I can manage while building a character.
sonic rain
see how it goes
if the damage and panic is really annoying ill just remove dextrous and cowardly
limpid sandal
see how it goes
Yeah, that looks manageable.
sonic rain
thank you so much guys for your help
limpid sandal
You can run with that
sonic rain
this game is so awesome
i see cats eyes this year got a major buff
due to the lightning update
limpid sandal
due to the lightning update
It's more the lighting inside rooms that's "weird". A room with windows and curtains can never be pitch black. lol
sonic rain
i went with mechanic before that, and it kinda sucks to be honest
probably better off hotwiring cars than trying to fix them in first month of the game
cool got it running. thanks a mil again ! appreciate it
limpid sandal
Well, on B41 you're not going to struggle to find books if you're in an urban area.
sonic rain
is that not the case in b42?