if youre wondering, here ya go
#whats under the military base? virus origin theorizing, lore!!!
rocky citrus
it is so far down
the stairs just go and go and go
and theres like 4 locked doors on the way
dusty ginkgo
if youre wondering, here ya go
whats the loot looking like iin the shelves pure curosity?
rocky citrus
its a lot of mechanical stuff
theres like radios and metal and such
very generic
i mean this is the first unstable version of b42 so
dusty ginkgo
was just curious since i dont plan to update for a while
rocky citrus
fair
theres like a bunch of either office rooms or isolation rooms
i didnt really see any medical stuff
so im wondering what the purpose of this is
wait it goes deeper
oh wow it goes so much deepeer
i missed more stairs
there is no doubt this is the source
spark warren
there is no doubt this is the source
In the second image, those look like dog kennels or something
dusty ginkgo
there is no doubt this is the source
maybe servers?
rocky citrus
how many floors total have you found so far?
i went down a few more after that first level and accidentally noclipped back to the surface
so
i havent even seen it all yt
rocky citrus
In the second image, those look like dog kennels or something
yeah exactly
rocky citrus
did you find the caves past the lab part?
theres caves?
i didnt get all the wayh down
rocky citrus
damn
rocky citrus
oh wow
ebon iris
its like a refugee camp
rocky citrus
why are they down there
ebon iris
I have no idea
maybe escaped or exiled test subjects?
the boxes had old newspapers
and its a really big cave system
so many questions but no answers
how is there radios down there
and a garage door
and flood lights
and im not even sure if thats the only thing down there
ebon iris
maybe the military found the virus in the caves
either that or the military made the virus at this point
rocky citrus
maybe the military found the virus in the caves
thats an interesting theory
like theres no reason why there would be caves under the base that are filled
ebon iris
that would just make zomboid a knock off version of origins from black ops 2
but a good knock off
rocky citrus
the cod zombies timeline is whacked'
ebon iris
the cod zombies timeline is whacked'
have you seen the newspapers yet?
ebon iris
there are 22
ebon iris
yes
ebon iris
saddam hussein game character
this one is the best newspaper
july 4th 1993 military toxic waste leak
rocky citrus
definitely the caves
ebon iris
gotta love soldiers cleaning up knox virus goo without NBC
rocky citrus
real
rocky citrus
there are 22
i only see 6 newspapers in the items list
ebon iris
i only see 6 newspapers in the items list
spam the recent and new newspapers
you will get all of them
rocky citrus
o u right
ebon iris
im the genius
rocky citrus
toxic waset stuff on july 3
ebon iris
toxic waset stuff on july 3
newspaper people driving past horde to go to work on july 16th
rocky citrus
alright its theory time
rocky citrus
somethign something military base, underground caves
waste from caves or whatever spills, spreads into water(foul smell from river?)
spreads to the dogs, dog attacks then spread it to humans
i think the military either knew about the susceptibility or began experimenting after this started happening
illness stuff everything else we already know
considering theres kennels in the lower levels
ebon iris
they were probably testing humans and dogs at the same time
rocky citrus
the disinfection chamber leading to the lab area which had kennels i think implies they knew about dogs being able to get sick
were there human chambers there?
there were locked rooms with just wooden palletes
ebon iris
were there human chambers there?
yeah
ebon iris
there were locked rooms with just wooden palletes
those were human chambers
what else could they be
ebon iris
there were locked rooms with just wooden palletes
oh and its only 1 wooden palette
so im basically 99 percent sure its human chambers
I just wonder what the people did do get experimented on
maybe death row inmates from rosewood
ebon iris
somethign something military base, underground caves
waste from caves or whatev...
also I dont know how the virus would have spread from the lab
maybe the leak on july 4th
ebon iris
cause if the zombies try to escape the lab then they have to battle up like 10 flights of stairs
rocky citrus
the crash
right
the crash was the day when all the weird stuff started happening except for the telephone lines
i feel the telephone lines going down is associated with it, maybe military mightve accidentally screwed up their infrastructure while in the caves
whats under the military base? virus origin theorizing, lore!!!
rocky citrus
gotta pull in more people we gotta theorize!!
ebon iris
maybe the cave people rioted and overwhelmed the guards
then the virus leaked during the riot
rocky citrus
the t hing is there was a refugee camp down there as you showed
i dont think the zombies began down there but the virus being found like in material down there could maybe be a thing
hoestly i doubt its virus at all personally
they dont tend to survive all that long on their own
protozoa, bacteria i think could be contenders in there too
like they never mention virus in any of the news articles(i dont think)
they just say knox event
knox event sickness whatever
ebon iris
maybe once people were infected they got exiled to the caves
rocky citrus
or just people started fleeing and some of them had the idea to go down instead of out the front because topside was getting overwhelmed
or topside was locked down
ebon iris
but then why are the caves there in the first place?
ebon iris
unless the army had a use for the caves they would seal it off
rocky citrus
like the top seems like they couldve constructed it quickly
maybe they were digging
cuz of the lack of environemtnal regulations they talked about
and hit those caves, found something there
realized it was dangerous and the military swooped in to take control
built a facility, one of the transports that mightve been going to an actual lab crashes
disease gets leaked out
rocky citrus
unless the army had a use for the caves they would seal it off
military sees dangerous new thing, they say hey what if we could use this
ebon iris
he might be cooking with this one
rocky citrus
the entire thing couldve been avoided overall honestly the response is criticized alot
ebon iris
like really caves only make sense if they found the virus there
rocky citrus
like they make tons of mistakes
yeah
like it makes no sense for them to just
go down
rather than establish a lab on the surface
unless something important was below that they had to get access to
and was easier to use underground
ebon iris
this introduces a whole new line of thinking
who was digging there in the first place
how long has the virus been known for
but there is still the concept of the government making the virus
rocky citrus
maybe
ebon iris
but then why whould they need a massive underground lab with caves to research it
rocky citrus
right the caves are so weird
the devs didnt need to add caves
unless it was important
underground lab works fine
but underground lab with caves underneath it?
ebon iris
if the military made the virus then the only way for caves to make sense is that they exile the infected to the caves
but that also makes no sense
rocky citrus
they couldve just executed them
rocky citrus
exiling them to the caves doesnt seem likely
ebon iris
and there were so many branching paths in the caves
rocky citrus
theyre huge
ebon iris
these goddamn caves
ebon iris
theyre huge
im not even sure if the refugee camp thing is the only thing down there
the caves are massive
rocky citrus
probably isnt the only thing
ebon iris
there could be more
rocky citrus
how many of the new cities are actually in the game now
i noticed the map increase and echo point or whatever
ebon iris
how many of the new cities are actually in the game now
brandenburg
irvington
echo lake
ebon iris
are they mostly complete?
no they are finished
rocky citrus
fire
rocky citrus
no
ebon iris
yeah louisville got an international airport
rocky citrus
fire
rocky citrus
convenient
ebon iris
convenient
also
on the map
it says the woods surrounding the research base are open to the public
maybe the military abducted hikers to experiment on
ebon iris
they built a 20 story deep research lab
also the military spill on the 4th happened around here
per the paper
rocky citrus
would check out
ebon iris
would check out
and the first reported cases of knox virus were in muldraugh
right next to the spill
so im pretty sure that the virus didnt leak from the lab
truck was most likely on the way to the lab though
rocky citrus
truck was most likely on the way to the lab though
i think it mightve been coming out of the lab
i feel thats alspo a possibility
ebon iris
i think it mightve been coming out of the lab
Before July (And most likely 1993)
Military discovers or creates the Knox Virus and begins testing/researching it
July 2nd
Knox Telecommunications takes down phones for work (Purely coincidental)
July 3rd
Nothing
July 4th
Knox Knews: Military spills toxic waste while transporting it, refuses to disclose what the spilled substance was
(and a few people from Muldraugh get a bit too close to the spill. They later return to their homes in Muldraugh)
July 5th
Knox Knews: Unusual illness begins affecting Muldraugh residents
(no zombies yet because the virus takes 2 days to kill.)
Military begins preparing to set up the exclusion zone
July 6th
In the evening and night of July 6th, infected begin to turn into zombies in Muldraugh as seen in the July 6th edition of Knox Knews.
Military sets up exclusion zone immediately afterwards
rocky citrus
makes sense
ebon iris
like
thats what im saying
I would not be suprised at all if what I just said is canon
rocky citrus
probably the most likely scenario
ebon iris
probably the most likely scenario
well actually
the blockade starts on the morning of july 6th
my bad
rocky citrus
hm
ebon iris
I guess life was still somewhat normal on the inside during july 6th
rocky citrus
so eithr
ebon iris
enough for there to be first responders and newspapers
rocky citrus
military probably was stupid and didnt think the disease would spread
other wise they wouldve shut it down immediately
or
they had it prepared and everything as a backup and lo and behold the backup happened
ebon iris
military probably was stupid and didnt think the disease would spread
maybe some vagabonds snuck up while the army wasnt watching and then snuck off
maybe some local kids wanting to see the fuss
rocky citrus
i think the dogs got it first
werent the dog attacks the first things
the one doctor saying it was the most rabies incidents hes seen in his entire life
military was gunning down dogs too
rocky citrus
someone walkin the pup
dog got sick
spread it around to other dogs just cuz dogs like interacting with eachother
they start getting sick, biting people
people start getting sick
apparnetly theres a crafting recipe to put oxygen tanks in hazmat suits
ebon iris
apparnetly theres a crafting recipe to put oxygen tanks in hazmat suits
Before July 1993
Military starts testing Knox Virus after discovering or creating it.
July 2nd 1993 Knox Telecommunications takes down phones for maintainence, this act is purely coincidental
July 3rd 1993 Bolton Jupiter dies in West Point after eating 60 Hot Dogs, RIP (Nothing happens on July 3rd)
July 4th 1993 A US Army truck crashes while carrying barrels of "toxic waste". Its almost certainly the Knox Virus in those barrels. People stop by to see the fuss, in the process a few dogs and people get unknowingly sick with the Knox Virus, this marks the start of the end for Humanity. Hey but Happy Independence Day.
July 5th 1993 A spree of dog attacks occur across Knox Country and a mysterious illness arises in Muldraugh, Kentucky. The Military immediatley catches wind of this and mobilizes to enact a Blockade of Knox Country.
July 6th 1993 In the early hours of July 6th, the Army moves in and establishes the Knox Exclusion Zone. At the same time the infected begin turning into Zombies in the zone. cue the rest of the zomboid lore
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new and improved version
ebon iris
apparnetly theres a crafting recipe to put oxygen tanks in hazmat suits
Also yeah you can use it to stop corpse sickness
Gas masks have filters now
Stuff like that
rocky citrus
sick
ebon iris
sick
Ok we just spent 2 hours theorizing zomboid lore
Im going to bed
Cya
We can theorize later maybe
fallow remnant
wait they added caves?
ebon iris
wait they added caves?
Yeah
fallow remnant
"I want to die with people" "I hate this cave"
ebon iris
Also a shit ton of zombie
fallow remnant
any idea where the cave is located?
ebon iris
Rosewood research facility
fallow remnant
aye
ebon iris
Where they were researching on the zombie virus
Stuff like that
It’s probably like 20 stories underground
fallow remnant
Rosewood research facility
Wheres that?
ebon iris
Wheres that?
fallow remnant
I had a search of the cave and to be honest, can;t seem the point of what its used for but its cool, I bet their be mods that'll add actual caves
ebon iris
I had a search of the cave and to be honest, can;t seem the point of what its us...
Did you find the refugee camp area
ebon iris
Yeah its way too big and isolated
fallow remnant
I heard their were bunkers, any idea where they are?
ebon iris
I heard their were bunkers, any idea where they are?
No idea
spark warren
Is there skyscrapers yet?
I think under the military base was a lab that they used to test on animals or other stuff, let me cook, the mad cow disease was used for the burger meat at spiffos, so the military tested on animals
candid plover
I think under the military base was a lab that they used to test on animals or o...
when you enter there are multiple dog houses
hazmat testing zone
you need to pass test to gert in/out the testing zone
dog cages ?
cctvs to monitor outisde activity or mb inside ?
so the dog cages are in the prison next to the military base in the basement
irm + corpse containers
next to the cave system, monitors / radio
infected deers july 1
polluted rivers and chimical dumbs may be the cause of the mutation (allowed due to bribes)
ebon iris
infected deers july 1
Could just be coincidence
Maybe if it was the forest around the lab
Instead of riverside
strange yew
Do you think these caves will lead somewhere?
strange yew
but which way is almost a maze haha
ebon iris
This place is sinister, but in multiplayer you can make a cool vault
Its a bad base location
Middle of nowhere
Really underground
Thousands of zombies
strange yew
Even if you get a well and animals?
well= decent water
animals =Food
I mean living underground
little spear
i dont get it
so they wont namedrop Saddam Hussein even though he's dead
but they will namedrop FBI and their real logo
ebon iris
about what happend suddam hussein
He uses chemical weapons on the zombies but they don’t work and then he gets sick with knox and dies
edgy lava
so iraq had affiliation on the lore
edgy lava
They were in the lore before b42
but they werent that important
ebon iris
They still arent
edgy lava
They still arent
but was iraq infected before everyone?
ebon iris
No
edgy lava
oh july 6
but i think the military base has an bio weapon
that breached
do yall agree
edgy lava
Check knox knews july 4th
ik but i think the truck was going to iraq
or another country
is it an good theory?
rocky citrus
iraq has nothing to do with the outbreak, this is just around the time when saddam was still in the public eye
that’s the kinda thing that was usually reported on back then
rocky citrus
ik but i think the truck was going to iraq
why would they ship their secretive waste to iraq
copper karma
Iraq had a chemical weapons program
Maybe after desert storm they took some of the experimental weapons, were gonna store it in Fort knox, but the weapon leaked while in knox county as it was transported/temporarily stored
edgy lava
Maybe after desert storm they took some of the experimental weapons, were gonna ...
yeah
thats what i meant
rocky citrus
so they wont namedrop Saddam Hussein even though he's dead
saddam isnt dead tho
hes alive at this time period
candid plover
random corpse (didnt kill it) at the source of salt river
maybe one of the spreaders of the virus
little spear
hes alive at this time period
Yes but i mean irl
He wouldn't care so why avoid namedropping him
Idk TiS never stops confusing me on using irl stuff
They go back and fourth on making up stuff to just recreating irl
Or something in between
Never consistent
rocky citrus
He wouldn't care so why avoid namedropping him
because hes relevant in the time that the game takes place
iraq and saddam hussein were very much in the public eye back in 1995
rocky citrus
random corpse (didnt kill it) at the source of salt river
maybe one of the sprea...
probably a story
unique swallow
the stairs just go and go and go
how'd you get to it
ionic timber
want a pic?
omg,Where is it?I want to build my safe house there.
ebon iris
omg,Where is it?I want to build my safe house there.<:spiffo:232169419617337345>
Rosewood research facility
rocky citrus
how'd you get to it
like where is the entrance to the basement or how did i get past the zombies?
its somewhere in the middle and theres arrows leading to the door t othe basemetnt
theres a bunch of security doors on the way
but i used debug mode
little spear
because hes relevant in the time that the game takes place
Literally so?
Even less reason to avoid mamedropping
I don't think you understand what i'm actually saying
rocky citrus
I don't think you understand what i'm actually saying
this is something that would be in the normal news
zombies are the least of the people in game’s concerns until the beginning