Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[left kindle]

speaking of underwear, I don't see why we can't rip them, or why when we wear them, our default white underwear is still visible

they also don't provide insulation and protection against the wind, cold and zombies at all(as far as I remember)

[vague trench]

lol last night i got bit trying to get a plushie out of a trash can lv is on a whole another level

[cunning turtle]

[leaden wedge]

Yeah... anyone wann raid one of the big buildings: Bring a generator or two. Its PITCH BLACK in there even with the "sky lights" (they seem to not work) and be prepared for atleast a thousand zombies in there. i only fought directly to the book store and i have killed 630 zombies and i am not finished

Also killing zombies attracts zombies from levels below AND above. so hit and LITERLY run and wait for the next shower of zombies...

[twin warren]

I am richer than all of you

[leaden wedge]

The stairs have like a hundret corpes. THankfully i blocked it with boxes before i ventured on.

[vague trench]

lol

[leaden wedge]

Found two already 😛 But i am also 4 month into my run and am raiding lv

[vague trench]

that sounds fun with guns haha

[twin warren]

I am on day 2

[leaden wedge]

I would agree if there weren't like 2k zombies around the mall i don't particular wanna fight xD

[leaden wedge]

Its alright its a good find. Batteries are worth Gold in the B42 😄

[cunning turtle]

flexin

[vague trench]

does anyone know if white rats spawn in specific places like schools or things like that?

[leaden wedge]

any infested seems to spawn all types. had a house with like 40 rats/mouses in it in all colors

[vague trench]

okay cool

[leaden wedge]

oh yeah and with multi high buildings there is this fun thing called "its raining zombies" both inside and outside. so while you fight in the inside there might be unexpected visitors from the back... and above

[leaden wedge]

The suprise rain zombies really liked how crunshy my arms are... my attack speed and damage has gone into unusable xD (right fore arm has a bite AND severe lacaration...)

but i did get my smithing magazines and books! i can finally start with that 😄

[leaden wedge]

AND the game crashed... and i lost 1 1/2 hours of game time. Welp was fun until it lasted gonna play something with autosaves <.<

[hallow adder]

You need to report that crash to the devs

This is the main reason why the build is on the Unstable branch.

You are part of the quality assurance.

[leaden wedge]

its a crash from a mod. So not devs fault. The problem is the save system saving your char every action and the world only every day or so... I don't care that the mall would have gotten "unlootet" but losing all the loot... We should be able to mark cars that they are saved regulary together with our home base... This crash killed any motivation

[noble sage]

b42 🤑

[real fox]

Honestly the most stable way of backing up saves is manually, it’s annoying, but honestly it’s the least intrusive way of storing your save data

Since I’m assuming the mod is running real time scripts during your game

[cunning turtle]

b43 🤑

[visual sand]

I just use texture mods

[worthy elbow]

Guys, does anyone know if there is any place between the cities of Ekron, Brandenburg and Irvington that has a variety of carpentry items?

[heady sentinel]

there's a tool store in brandenburg that's been pretty well stocked both times i've been there

[vague trench]

dunno if you want to go that far or have already but theres a store around meadshire i usually go to for things on side of highway

[worthy elbow]

Tks guys!

[rough kraken]

can farm animals spawn after 1 year in game?

from my understanding they all spawn dead, and if you dont get one by that point is it just impossible?

[leaden wedge]

i have an mini program that does the backups. the problem is that the game didn't save jet since it was just before midnight. so i lost the "map save" for the entire day which included my military backpack since i put it down to sort out the loot...

[heady sentinel]

yeah, i do find it really silly that it saves parts separately like that- it makes sense for multiplayer to try to head off duplication bugs and the like, but i'd honestly rather that it just reverted to the most recent midnight if the game crashes

it saving player data exactly as is on a crash is why you can lose a save entirely by equipping sharpened bone fragment right now; it reverts the world back but perma-saves the game crashing item in your hands

suppose it opens players up to reverting zombie bites by intentionally crashing/alt f4ing? but i mean, if it only works in singleplayer then it's only affecting them

[leaden wedge]

yeah honestly this stuff got meaningless in SP since modding was possible... Or just make it an sandbox setting to have an iron man save... For all i care add an silver star for peoples save that play unmodded iron man...

[hallow adder]

Oh ok, if it's coming from a mod, well....

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-gif-27377962

[cunning turtle]

[sturdy wren]

Ok father grigori

[cunning turtle]

lmao

[dim venture]

anyone know anything about next patch?

[untold grotto]

have they clarified if multiplayer is being reintroduced in the unstable branch, or will it be only be reintroduced once b42 is out of unstable?

[opaque schooner]

I don’t believe so, no

[untold grotto]

that wasn't a yes or no question, no to which one

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[slim merlin]

No they have not clarified.

But if it’s like B41 it will be released during unstable

Ngl hoping for carnados again 😂

[tawny orbit]

pig is glitched that can bypass wall

not destroy

my saved made glitched because of pig

[tawny orbit]

if u spam press grab dead zombie

it glitch

and stuck

you cant drop

i couldn't able escape

[modern vessel]

Will Molotovs come back again?

[jaunty gyro]

It will be reintroduced during unstable. It needs to be tested before it can be released just the same.

[untold grotto]

sick, that's what i assumed but wasn't completely sure about

[whole tundra]

yeah its one of, if not the reason i love PZ so much. cant wait to have it back in

[dusk plume]

Will it's release date be talked about in the upcoming blog?

[pastel wing]

Oh lawn care is a real thing in this game

I had to do lawn care in my fenced in yard to keep it nice and tidy

I can only imagine bigger properties are hard to take care of

[gleaming perch]

imagine using a lawnmower in this game

it’s function similar to the way we carry zombies except it’d be pushing a in-game lawnmower over tiles to slowly cut the grass

would also make lots of noise whilst requiring fuel to operate, with a custom animation to start the engine.

tedious but awesome

[versed dagger]

perfect reaction gif

[visual sand]

I think if TiS talks about a release date again it's safe to assume skinwalkers have replaced the staff

[forest shore]

I'm frankly surprised they did last time

I do feel they were reminded as to why they don't lol

[blazing coral]

or this bad boy

much more apocalypse friendly

[gleaming perch]

LOL yeah

2 variants

1 with fuel one without

[hearty pulsar]

was walking into my friends shed the other day and when I saw tools all I saw was the zomboid tool icons in my head

[blazing coral]

least addicted zomboid player

[hearty pulsar]

zomboid is holding me hostage help

won't release me from it's decayed fingered grasp

[austere pewter]

Bet you dont have a carton of nails like me 😎

[vague trench]

i remember my grandpa told my cousin he would give us money for mowing the lawn and he gave us that lol

who brought their dads chewing tobacco to show n tell

[blazing coral]

lol the amount of alchool I found on riverside school

[vague trench]

😆

[forest shore]

I wonder if TIS is aiming for monthly Unstable builds. That would make sense imo

[slim merlin]

I get a kick of excitement when I see propane in real life

[sturdy sequoia]

does it actually work? i've never seen one of those before

[vague trench]

i dunno i was like 12 in the 90s lol , i think we just wanted money and i remember it took forever

we had a regular mower too lol

[forest shore]

So cool tip - if you're taking an exercise day and have nothing better to do - practice reloading by loading and unloading magazines

[forest shore]

Yea that style does work - they're just rotating blades. It's equal to cutting the grass with a scythe.

[vague trench]

why is he trying to break that down lol

got a car alarm going off , bull hitting door and me shooting gun so much clusters

[forest shore]

Makes me think of The Simpsons. Keeping this wagon for sure

It immediately blew 2 tires

Thats a cool find

[sturdy sequoia]

oh cool

[vague trench]

yah i found one of those , at the same place, i love that stove its so cool

[opaque schooner]

Does it work as a legit stove?

[dawn elm]

wood stoves are soo handy IRL even after a power outage me and my family had back in 2022

[vague trench]

yar its like an antique basically

[dawn elm]

Antique stoves are only useful if the safe house you are using does not come with fireplace

[opaque schooner]

Oh hell yeah

[forest shore]

Apparently it's a 'crafted stove' so like.. I guess you can make it from scratch now.

Also the OTHER vehicle I found just blew a tire. Right next to the Simpson Wagon.

Guess I'm walking back to base with my can of fuel to get my mechanic rig to put tires on these stupid cars.

[vague trench]

is that what the loud pop noise is lol tire breaking?

i was driving and i heard it once and it scared the farts out of me

[forest shore]

Has anyone done a bit of towing in B42? It seems to me it may be bugged

[forest shore]

That's a tire being destroyed or blown yea. Tires and wheels in PZ are one piece for now, so can't just change the tire (which is the black rubber bit) so you need to go get another from another car.

[vague trench]

i havent, but i can try if i get gas n stuff lol

[vague trench]

think i just drove without a tire for like a week lol

[leaden wedge]

Do you mean with animal trailer? Then yes they are basically made of helium and topple if you go faster then 10 mph in a curve. All other trailers: no problem. Wrecked/damaged cars: Well it ain't fun but worked (try back & forward movements to handle the bigger ones 😉 )

[forest shore]

No - but yes the horse trailer specifically is wonky as hell with its physics. I'm talking about towing a car with another car. No matter what I do it seems the box truck will not tow anything at a reasonable speed - which is ironic considering in vanilla it's probably the most capable of towing out of any vehicle.

In almost every case it's faster for me to walk back to my base, get a can of fuel, walk back, and fuel the car up and drive it to my base. That doesn't seem like it's intended balance to me.

[forest shore]

Okay I see the issue I've been having - box trucks have 370hp. Although the station wagon has 420... So.. Ironically it's the smallest vehicle I have now but the best at towing.

[shadow plinth]

I'm having a heck of a time towing as well. Even if I use a 480hp truck, the animal trailer won't budge

[cunning turtle]

Damn

[analog swan]

any clue when multiplayer will be out?

[sturdy sequoia]

nope not yet

[austere pewter]

pretty sure when the build fully releases

[analog swan]

whats the eta on that me and my friends are dying to play together

[pallid hinge]

Nah it is during unstable #1318684957526458450 message

[austere pewter]

Uh idk probably late summer?

[austere pewter]

Probably a few months then idk

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[analog swan]

damn alr

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[pallid hinge]

When it's ready 😸

[analog swan]

real

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

There are a lot of things to fix and add in the mean time

[hearty pond]

I'm just hoping we are getting a improvement to crafting for food related stuff in the next patch

that 5 packages of sugar for chocolate cookies is hilarious

[glacial cape]

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/sh2-silent-hill-2-fog-gif-1321460155140227201

[heady sentinel]

yknow, something just occurred to me- anyone else find it odd that .308 and .44 magnum boxes give so much less ammo than the rest of them? seems inconsistent with the rest. every other bullet save for shotgun shells give 50 per box and the encumbrance varies accordingly to size- shotgun shells make sense because they're so much bigger than bullets, but .308 and .44 aren't that much different to other bullet types? they both only give 20 rounds and weigh 0.6 and 0.4 respectively, so they're just smaller boxes. i would've assumed it was a bullet size thing again, but 5.56 boxes give a full 50 rounds per

assuming the weight scaled accordingly, a box of 50 .308 would weigh 1.5 and a box of 50 magnum would weigh 0.9, so i wonder why the boxes are just smaller for those two. they're not exactly premier ammunition like shotgun shells, and it's particularly odd with the .308 because you only get one m14 magazine per box

[cunning turtle]

[gleaming perch]

bro I was working out a couple days ago and when my muscles got sore a day later I instantly thought of muscle strain

[slim merlin]

It’s Kentucky. That’s probably the kid’s tobaccy 😂

[cunning turtle]

seeyuh

[austere pewter]

I do the same thing lmao

Zomboid brainrot got to me

[cunning turtle]

pov ppl that usually don't go to the gym

[heavy crown]

good zombie pathing

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[heavy crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085884232133529651/1330676222031691787/MultifloorPathing.mp4?ex=678ed84e&is=678d86ce&hm=cd5a74bcb02659dfa5e4607d776828f5c8ddafe3c66ac6d3819a2bc4528474e5&

[slim merlin]

anyone know the best place to find a masonry trowel or whatever it’s called?

That’s not the brick factory in LV

[forest shore]

I can't wait to force my entire friend group to play with me and we'll make a cute little apocalypse village out in Echo Creek

[pallid hinge]

Same, I am hoping the ones who thought it was too hard/didn't want to just kill zombies will give it another shot

there will be so much more to do for those that aren't frontliners/scavengers

[vague trench]

lol me if i was a zombie

[forest shore]

My friends are all multiplayer only players so none have tried B42 at all yet

[pallid hinge]

same, for the ones that do play

[vague trench]

we will be the masters

[cunning turtle]

[forest shore]

Power went out in my run. Time to buckle down and find that generator book.

[vague trench]

Last run i found one on some random work truck lol, love how we can find them better now

[subtle tendon]

yeah they havent fixed the mac issue yet

[cunning turtle]

F

[subtle tendon]

oh and now the game crashes when you shoot zombies on mac

reverse patching

[cunning turtle]

Xdn't

[pallid hinge]

With what gun?

[subtle tendon]

Pistol you are given when you join

[pallid hinge]

Gotcha

I know the M16 has issues atm, so maybe it is related

I would report it

!bugreports

[sacred bison]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[rich shuttle]

Guess who forgot to turn off the oven before going to bed

[cunning turtle]

Xdn't

[subtle tendon]

nah this game

[vague trench]

fitting name lol

[rich shuttle]

Didn’t realize it was gonna be prophetic

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[lucid ginkgo]

Me: "Hmm, I wanna play PZ but I also wanna chill to some music, but then I wouldn't be able to hear danger..."
My inner demon: "Deaf run"

[vague trench]

i always play with music lol

[glacial cape]

Glad I'm not the only one XD

[cunning turtle]

I've played in mp with music too

[austere pewter]

True

[frozen wyvern]

I made another dumb thing https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3411025038

[waxen oar]

does anyone know how many baby rabbits can come from one pregnancy's cycle in this game because idk if I just had a bug or this was intended lol

[real fox]

Bug

I notice with chickens they don’t give birth to a lot but it seems they have a chance to reproduce too much

Also when the babies mature the duplication bug occurs

Hence animalapocolypse bug happens

Not sure if the same bug affects birth tho, but I know births and maturity in generally are pretty buggy rn

[waxen oar]

well the 3 named female rabbits were all pregnant so idk if this is right because i read that rabbits can have 5 to 6 babies at one time in real life.

but this is PZ lol

[real fox]

Oh if they are all pregnant then this seems fine then

10 litter

[waxen oar]

sorry I forgot to say that important info kinda was in the moment

[real fox]

That’s ok

[waxen oar]

it does seem right to me

[real fox]

If you meant for one animal I was like ermmmmmmm

[waxen oar]

That one rabbit probably wouldn't have a good time lol

I just don't know if I can take care of all of them now

time will tell

MUST HAVE ALL THE ANIMALS

[real fox]

Feast

[leaden wedge]

can you destroy that ladder? if yes you can probably draw the entire city population in there without them bein able to do anything. And then you can throw one fire bomb in >:D

[vague trench]

Haha thats great

[bright glade]

wow, it's wallice from grommet

(a friendgroup reference that nobody else but me would get)

[gleaming perch]

any dev wanna say if theres gonna be an improvement to the lighting system or not

[nova wharf]

Never said had to be a pz dev

Yesnt

[heady sentinel]

just poked through the secret rosewood military base. minimal spoilers on the contents, but by the stars are the numbers in there just absurd and not at all remotely fun to deal with, especially ||in the basement. like... dude. i get that it's a secret special area. but why are there thousands of zombies in that bunker. you fight through several thousand just to get down there and with how janky lighting is now and how scarce hands free lighting now, it's just pure tedium and wildly unfun to clear.|| i gave in after a few minutes after realising that i'd be there for multiple real-life days if i wanted to do it legimitately and looked around in debug mode- surely some numbers must've been put in incorrectly, right? that can't be intended?

my only theory is that they did that before any of the combat changes so it was balanced around b41 combat- even then though, it would've been a massive pain

[visual trail]

try to go there with bandits week one mod enabled 😉

[wet timber]

Im looking forward to full b42 release with specific scenario idea in mind. I hope it'll be achievable by either base game features and mods.
I want to live in a bunker with my bros and make it so outside world is suitable only for short loot runs but not for living there. Might be something like Metro series winter or I'm legend vampire/zombies. Tho to keep bunker life running we'll need to upkeep it's machinery (generators, ventilation, water pumps... ). There's a dev video somewhere where they test machinery making and packaging juices, that's what I'm talking about.

[severe egret]

Sounds fun. Could mod in your own meta events that can cause machinery to suddenly break down. Maybe some zombie corpses somehow block the ventilation to the outside or some shit. Or something contaminates the water supply.

[flat phoenix]

What would be cool for that idea is something like acid rain.

[cunning turtle]

seeyuh

[left kindle]

why would they? it's already fully implemented as far as they've said

[gleaming perch]

Ah, i heard some rumors that they would enable it so light can leak into pitchblack rooms from other lit rooms

[left kindle]

it's already in place

[gleaming perch]

again, rumors that I heard so I just wanted to check

really?

[left kindle]

yeah

haven't you played B42?

[gleaming perch]

yeah but i hadnt noticed it

ill try it later

[edgy kiln]

the rumours are just people saying "i hope they add that" the devs havent said anything yet

[left kindle]

so it's not already in the game?

[edgy kiln]

i thought they mean light leaking through curtains and doorways

[left kindle]

yeah, but that's already in the game too

when the power went out, my house was pitch black and I was just trying to find the door LMAO

[edgy kiln]

light doesnt leak through curtains and doorways lol

[gleaming perch]

Yeah I tested it out; the only doors light leaks through are the doors with windows

[serene turret]

sorry for the necro, but where do you mean by this?

i wanna look for some tobacco seeds now

oh nvm found it

[sturdy sequoia]

there's a secret rosewood military base???

where lol

[serene turret]

its this

basically you take the road out of rosewood to the left, turn left again on the first road

then find a dirt path

if its early game with a good offroading vehicle you can make it there by car, otherwise you have to cut a lot of saplings/trees or walk

[sturdy sequoia]

ohhh that one, okay yeah i knew about that i'd just never associated it with rosewood. in b41 it was pretty underwhelming loot-wise, right? like it's mostly a research lab so there wasn't a lot of goodies to grab considering how hard it is to get to late-game

[serene turret]

only thing i'd say its good for is getting a military bag and ALICE suspenders without much efford

you don't even need to full clear it, just kill some of the military zombies outside

[sturdy sequoia]

fair, makes sense. i've never found the ALICE suspenders myself before, what are they good for besides attaching a flashlight to it?

[red hazel]

I've found two at the same location before. Each were on military zeds at the army barracks. I think it's just for flashlights lol

[serene turret]

you can put a canteen on it as well

but besides the flashlight yeah its pretty useless

it bothers me that it has less reduction then fanny packs

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah that's kinda weird. i probably won't really bother to go over there in my current save unless the loot is significantly better than it used to be. good to know though

[heavy marsh]

It has more storage tho than fanny packs

[serene turret]

yeah but its a difference of 4

with less reduction

its not bad, but its not a huge upgrade imo

outside of the flashlight thing

[heavy marsh]

Yeah but the things you put there are nothing that weights a lot i put only pens and couple of meds, maybe cigs and call it good 👍

[serene turret]

ye ye

i usually only put my cigarretes stuff and basic meds as well

its just that i didn't feel like it added space i was lacking with fanny packs, especially cause it has less reduction then the military backpack

[heavy marsh]

Fair enough

[serene turret]

is there like, even way to find tobacco seeds in the game right now?

before i even tried i wanted to get an idea of where to find them

[sturdy sequoia]

i was wondering that too, my current save i went with smoker to experiment and see if i think it's still worth it and tbh i don't lol. but i know i'm going to run out eventually and i was hoping to find some, no luck so far

maybe if you check the rural supply store in fallas lake? there's supposed to be lots of seeds there if i'm not mistaken

[serene turret]

so about tahat

that*

i wanted to exeperiment with it

so i turned debug on

made a sandbox save with max loot

in everything

and i tped around to all the farming stores and found 0 tobacco seeds

i even tried the drug trailer and only found hemp

[sturdy sequoia]

wow wtf. maybe the spawns for them are bugged?

[serene turret]

yeah that's what i am thinking as well

i saw the .lua for some stuff

and it says tobacco seed bag

but i can't spawn that item in debug mode

only individual seeds

but at the same time i saw ppl claiming they found tobacco seeds

so maybe individual ones still spawn?

but i haven't found those either

[sturdy sequoia]

where would they even spawn though? idk where to find individual seeds

[serene turret]

i'd imagine corpses of zombies maybe

also the tobacco shop in ivirgton is straight up bugged and doesn't spawn anything tobacco related

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah there's no way that's all intentional, has to just be bugged out

[serene turret]

yeah on abudant loot the only thing related to smoking was some matches 😭

[sturdy sequoia]

lol not very helpful

i also think they seriously need to buff the amounts of cigarettes that spawn in gas stations and put them in more convenience stores since irl they always do sell cigarettes

like i looted the gas station south of rosewood and got a whopping 2 packs of cigarettes. like, where'd they go?? that's ridiculous

in b41 you'd find hundreds of cigarettes on those shelves but now you can only find like 40

[red hazel]

The zombies in the Last of Us mod don't play around. I cant even get out the car without being swarmed in the town lol

[serene turret]

5 monthes in i've looted multiple gas stations with 0 cigarettes

but tbh, i wouldn't mind it so much if i could start work on making my own supply of tobacco

[unkempt atlas]

Any rural American area in the early 1990s would be completely awash in cigarettes. You should have a 50% chance of finding them in any given house or car. Not nearly enough smokes and booze in this game to reflect Americans' actual proclivities of the era.

[serene turret]

but seeing as that is bugged i am starting to worry lmao

tbf, i find a lot of booze

[sturdy sequoia]

exactly, i'm always saying this

[serene turret]

but smokes its weird

iirc like more then 20% of americans smoked at that time

[sturdy sequoia]

TIS underestimate how many people were smokers in america 30 years ago

[unkempt atlas]

Especially if your sample is, in particular, working class & rural people

Urban sophisticates quit a long time before the regular folks

[sturdy sequoia]

i could honestly learn to love the struggle side-quest thing of having to acquire and maintain cigarettes for a smoking addiction in this game, if it was actually balanced and made sense. like yeah you can find a couple hundred maybe if you spend a lot of time looting cars and gas stations and convenience stores, etc. but then eventually you'll run out, and since b42 is all about longevity for the end-game, you should definitely run into that problem someday. so then you have to grow tobacco and make your own, and could get to being sustainable indefinitely if done right. i'd like that a lot

it's just not functional currently with how bugged tobacco seeds are and how rare cigarettes are

[serene turret]

like, smoking as a mechanic needs a lot of work imo

its cool that in the future you can make your own smoking supply with seeds

but i think going cold turkey and shaking off an addiction should also be an option

the trait is already only +2, it wouldn't be that op to have it be dynamic

[frozen wyvern]

Im pretty sure something about tobacco seed spawning will be fixed in the upcoming patch

[sturdy sequoia]

so true, i would love if it was dynamic like that. that would also open the door for adding in other kinds of addictions that you can take and eventually get over, like alcoholism or heroin if they really want to get edgy with it

[serene turret]

thank god then

i will prolly try and not approach barns unitl the patch is released lol

and hope my save works as well

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah hopefully our saves don't all get corrupted

i'm kinda getting addicted to rimworld rn so if my save does break, i'll probably just take a lil break and come back later on

[twin warren]

I think to accomodate anyone that still complains about muscle strain they should remove it by default for survivor mode

Apocolypse can stay as the hardcore Romero gamemode it is intended to be

[frozen wyvern]

Saves will probably not work with the hotfix id imagine

[vague trench]

I would find cigs in the oddest places growing up lol, found some in a old manual coffe grinder once

[unkempt atlas]

Waiting for the patch is annoying, my character is just staying in the safe house all day because I don't want to instantiate any new areas until the loot tables are fixed

[light drift]

Is the infinite bowl glitch widespread knowledge?

[sturdy wren]

thursdoid soon ?

[cunning turtle]

[sturdy sequoia]

what's that?

i haven't heard of it at least

[glad canyon]

@inehal up

[sturdy wren]

Unless something changed doesn't Ioot generate when you open the container

[unkempt atlas]

IDK, I'm assuming it does so when it loads the map chunk for the 1st time, but that could be wrong

Even so, there's no point going out if I can't open containers

I guess in theory I could clear towns this week and loot them next week (or whenever it's actually going to drop)

[flat phoenix]

Probably 30th

[vague trench]

have they even said when theyre going to be starting thursdoids back up?

[flat phoenix]

Nope I’m just assuming the 30th.

Last Thursday of the month

[hallow adder]

10 more days....

I wanted to know any single roadmaps for Build 43.

And why isn't it called Build 34.

[cunning turtle]

Next decade

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-21901672

[hallow adder]

What's wrong with being able to read about future plans ahead?

Didn't we have something similar when Build 41 just released and we got roadmaps for Build 42?

[vague trench]

just kind of weird to me since were not even 2 months in and all features have not been added and build 42 should be the focus point right now, would be kind of weird to skip ahead in my eyes

[hallow adder]

Well, we already know what Build 42 will have, since the Build 42 roadmap is already out there.

[vague trench]

ahh okay

[hallow adder]

But for Thursdoids, what blog contents would you read about if it's not for the next Build?

It has to be Build 43

I don't see any other ways the Thursdoids can go deep-diving into.

[vague trench]

i honestly didnt even know they plan on doing them since theyre development blogs arent they? i dont even remember if 41 had them lol

[hallow adder]

Build 42 is the first time they marked a point where the devs started to use branches/betas. Stable and Unstable.

I bet nasKo would be lurking here, eating chili beans, and saying, "This user is right, just out of line.."

[vague trench]

chili beans? lol

[hallow adder]

Did nasKo say what favorite foods they would pick from the grocery store?

[frozen wyvern]

Build 42 still has a lot of content to come

[hallow adder]

But the roadmap for Build 42 is complete. All that's left is implementing the roadmap.

[frozen wyvern]

Did you not see the ?????

[hallow adder]

Ok, technically the ???? is one unknown.

Fair enough

Fine, this upcoming Thursdoid has to be some sneak peak about that ????

[vague trench]

nasko lore

[edgy kiln]

the blogs during b41 were exclusively just b41 stuff lol

the blogs are definitely just going to be progress updates on b42

[flat phoenix]

Predatory animals 👀

[edgy kiln]

bows and more grapple tech too

[flat phoenix]

Bows are going to be interesting

[vague trench]

does sleeping with light on help with night terror stuff

[light drift]

every time I split stew into 4 bowls it gives me 4 bowls of stew and I get the keep the original 4 empty bowls so I have this ever increasing stack of bowls

[sturdy sequoia]

lol that's weird. it's not like having a lot of bowls really helps you out all that much though so not a gamebreaking exploit or anything

[light drift]

No but it does make me less inclined to pick up pottery lol

[frozen wyvern]

Its a known bug haha

[hallow adder]

bug, already fixed in the patch notes preview.

...........I think

[main jay]

I think if you're using terms like "has to" you're setting yourself up for disappointment. If we get a thursdoid this month it's likely to be a recap or debrief of 42, like others have said.

[light drift]

had a look but didnt see it in the patch notes. Only reason I asked

[hardy fox]

does anyone know of a grass cutting tool like the sythe except it doesnt make the ground brown and just dirt but leaves it green and bald'

[hallow adder]

Ok, maybe I won't use "has to" anymore.
nasKo has to be eating chili beans right now right? This is the one thing I'm definitely going to be set up for happiness if he's not.

[sturdy sequoia]

green and bald you say?

[hallow adder]

Also, maybe I'm wrong.

[hallow adder]

Running generators indoors no longer kill you in Build 42.

[main jay]

Lol fair enough

[hallow adder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaaCiXv-5e4
Proven via video.

[woven beacon]

Near Echo Creek

[severe egret]

But it does leak around them. Youd be surprised how much difference a sliver of light beneath a door can make to a pitch black room. Also not all curtains are blackout, and sheets as curtains would let through a lot of light

[serene turret]

I found it yeah

But no tobacco seeds there or anywhere in the map tbh

[woven beacon]

Hm if you're feeling lucky theres also agricultural shops in LV

Otherwise you could just boot up debug mode and cheat it in

[serene turret]

I literally set my loot settings to abundant

And tped troughout the world in debug mode and didn't find them

I am pretty sure they aren't spawning in right now cause the tobacco seed packet item is missing

Idk how you managed to find them tbh

[hallow adder]

Is that a thing?

Actually, use a B42 mod, called the Items List Viewer, and see if the game data actually has such an item.

[hardy fox]

My save keeps lagging and crashing

[hallow adder]

Looks something like this.

[hearty pond]

i kinda wish there was a system to "vent" fumes

especially with deep basements

[serene turret]

Tobacco seed exists, I can spawn them in

But tobacco seed packets I can't find

Not in the debug item list at least

And like, all seeds spawn in packets basically

Besides like wheat

So if the packet doesn't exist the seed spawning is basically impossible

Which is why I am curious as to how ppl got those seeds

[cunning turtle]

Curious

[serene turret]

And like adding missing tobacco seed packets is one of the future patch notes ppl were passing around

Reinforcing my curiosity as to how ppl who got the damn tobacco seeds got them

[vague trench]

the mod maybe?

[severe egret]

Finding a tobacco plant that has gone to seed would do the trick

[hearty pond]

that would be the only way, yeah, even took a peek at the loot tables

[serene turret]

Yes but like , where in the map do we have Tobacco plants?

I saw 0 gardens with them

[hardy fox]

idk how to fix my save :( everytime i get on it crashes after like 5 secs

[vague trench]

does console.txt say anything?

[severe egret]

A good question. Realistically it would be rare to find since im pretty sure even then it was illegal to grow your own. Youd have to find an illegal grow or a plantation

[serene turret]

Most likely but all those ppl didn't mention it which makes a bit annoyed lol

[vague trench]

yeah lol only thing that sucks when people play with mods sometimes they say oh theres this , and its a mod

[hardy fox]

doesnt say anything

[serene turret]

Tobacco is not weed, it's 100% legal to grow your own

[hardy fox]

i already reset my computer and stuff

[hearty pond]

so where is our weed?

[severe egret]

Not in australia it aint lol. I figured murica was the same but guess not. Tobacco companies dont wanna lose profit

[vague trench]

can you make a new save?

[serene turret]

Yep I've found like 3-4 comments saying "found tobacco seeds" but none of those people mentioned having mods

[serene turret]

Oh damn lol

I know that in the US and UK its legal

Just can't sell it

[severe egret]

Riiight makes sense for US i guess lol

[serene turret]

It's most countries tbh

I think Australia is the uncommon in that aspect

[severe egret]

In that case you should defs be able to find the odd homegrow

[serene turret]

No ping cause I don't wanna hold them to the fire

But this type of comment just like

Annoys me, cause it has to be a mod

But you just catch it like this with no context given and waste your time looking for things that literally can't exist right now

[vague trench]

yea lol it makes figuring things out for people who play vanilla kinda a pain in the fart

[hardy fox]

how id o that

of the same save?

[vague trench]

no just make a new game does it still crashy?

[hardy fox]

ohh lemme see

wait it mightve fixed itself

[hardy fox]

I THINK I KNOW WHY MY GAME IS LAGGY

There’s so many more then I could’ve ever imagined

[vague trench]

Ahahhah

[ionic barn]

only a spoonful

[vague trench]

you can login as debug and remove animals in the area lol , no fair i never get a chickenocelypse but once

err cockocalypse lol

[versed dagger]

Multiplayer on the 30th?

(I'm joking, please don't hurt me!!)

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-running-away-running-chicken-attack-gif-21856545

[hardy fox]

Would that remove my animals in my other zone?

[forest shore]

It would remove any animals you can visually see far as I can tell

Oh no - they removed the egg moddle and brought back the broken bone one? 😦

In the next patch

[vague trench]

someone tried it once and said it was just the area

[vague trench]

eggbert noo

[cunning turtle]

F

[turbid gorge]

have you SEEN a chicken farm irl

https://tenor.com/view/a-chicken-goes-after-a-human-chicken-after-me-chicken-underzero-gif-16718114

[cunning turtle]

!!

[hallow adder]

Then that is a bug.

No, not the seed, The seed packet.

[civic drum]

Is drinking directly from a river/tainted water source still 100% death?

On a related note, how long can you go without water without dying?

[vague trench]

i drank from puddle earlier lol

[cunning turtle]

If u got the weak stomach trait i think it can kill you

[vague trench]

I shall drink from dog bowl and die

[forest shore]

Sapph's cooking has it's own wiki holy crap

[vague trench]

lol does it?

thats cool

[noble steppe]

When b43

[forest shore]

Yea - it's linked in the mod description now

How's everyone liking stealth right now? Browsing Steam Forums and it seems a group of the community believe stealth is broken and doesn't work. I've persoanlly felt that stealth has been really improved.

[frozen wyvern]

Its massively improved

Again i think a lot of the people having issues with it are those using default settings, having random pinpoint hearing and eagle eyed zombies makes it really feel like you cannot stealth

[cunning turtle]

Next decade

[forest shore]

I have random pinpoint and eagle eyed on and still feel it works

Maybe that's because I have a few levels in stealth now though

[vague trench]

for science

[rich shuttle]

It’s been improved for sure but personally I still feel like it isn’t super useful still, cause even with muscle strain tuned to 1.0 it’s often more worth it to clear areas than sneak by. Also, on random senses zombies can still see and hear you from very far away

[main jay]

Currently sneaking has no effect on how far away zombies can see you. But on the flip side, controlling the noise you make is way more important now that pinpoint hearing zombies exist

Though tbh, they've said that more stealth improvements are on the way, so that'll change soonish TM

[severe egret]

Random perception by default was a terrible idea without any way to tell which zeds are more perceptive. The player needs consistency in these kinds of systems

Random movement speed is fine, cause you can immediately tell them apart

[vague trench]

i think its better than 41, steam forums is cursed lol

[wooden ravine]

I think the reason is low levels in stealth means you just have realy loud foot steps, which makes it seem like they can see or hear you when they should not be able to. The real problem is their pathfinding skills. Or really the fact that they have any, since zombies are not supposed to see you then turn around and walk in the other direction to go around a high fence to get to a door. they are supose to mash themselves against it

[severe egret]

Pretty sure thats lightfooted

Afaik sneaking only governs chances of being seen

[wooden ravine]

I use a mod that adds more information to skills, and it says sneaking levels decrease detection range and foot step volume only while sneaking and light-footed decreases footstep volume sneaking or not

[severe egret]

Interesting, if accurate. That you need a mod to know thus stuff is nuts tho. But as a new player with zero information, when you see "sneaking" and "lightfooted" as seperate skills, you just naturally assume one governs sight and one governs sounds right?

[real fox]

Has anyone found fire bomb recipe

[lethal wolf]

ah, I gotta suffer real life for 1-3 weeks very very soon, can't wait to see if a new b42 patch drops in while I can't play anything

found out I cannot plaster walls in b42 atm so my island life experience clearly needs to let devs cook a bit before it can be fully realized

[wet timber]

honestly I thought sneaking and lightfooted determined the sound level when sneaking and walking/sprinting respectively until now

[dusky sand]

I kinda sorta tested the sneaking skill through fog night and day (and by tested I just mean I ran around sneaking for a bit with 0/10 skills in different conditions so…..)

In my observations the sneaking skill does jack shit and night/fog don’t make a big of a difference as you would hope. A few tiles at best

[severe egret]

Either way, most peoples best guess probably doesnt line up with the devs interpretation of reality. So like, just tell us the rules 😂

[velvet egret]

why did they flip Spiffo over the y-axis?

[halcyon finch]

new patch is coming (cope)

[queen shadow]

Ohhhh when?

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[glacial cape]

TIS is this true or cap?

[halcyon finch]

patch is supposed to be coming since we got a list of fixes but TIS never make ETA's so we can't know until they drop it.

[left kindle]

I say we'll get it this month

[halcyon finch]

yeah that's very likely i would take my bet on thursday along a thursdoid maybe but we don't know for sure

[versed dagger]

If nothing else, it'll be just like any other thursdoid: juicy with news, developer feedback, and enough teasing to have us foaming at the mouth.

[queen shadow]

I been foaming at the mouth since last summer

[versed dagger]

uhhh, then you should probably see your local physician!!

[queen shadow]

I did get bit by that rat that one time

[versed dagger]

[halcyon finch]

though im gonna be honnest as a mac players the mac issues are too important rn to seriously play so its been like a month of waiting and i'm indeed coping at every single possible hint for next patch to drop who would bring me salvation.

[cunning turtle]

Don't lose the hope

[severe prawn]

After all these hight limits changes and randomised wilderness i'm starting to have some VERY wet dreams about more complex terrains with hills, beaches, and maybe even canyons. Or imagine if we get the ability to travel on water, and then get stuff like waterfalls and even dynamic rivers that can change depending on some conditions.

dayomm, im probably thinking about this shi too much.

although looks like Knox country has pretty simple landshaft in real life.

oh wait

there are some hills

[halcyon finch]

hills and all could be hard but we can definitely get some caves/old mines from another commentor saying how there is a lot of abbandonned mines around here

[severe prawn]

i mean

there some complex tunnel systems that are already in pz

so

that seems to be easy to add

also with all new crafting additions

mines and caves can turn pz into minecraft

[hardy fox]

Imagine running from a horde in the mines

[halcyon finch]

like a camp of survivors/military that was made in one of the old mines that got destroyed by zombies and havgin to explore infested hallways of zeds to salvage the loot

[severe prawn]

absolutely cooked

[hardy fox]

Omg it’s like that call of duty trailer cut scene thing

https://youtu.be/TS701bMxmSI?si=vhgFk9aVrfCn5LJB

30 seconds in

[halcyon finch]

i think there is a guy who's planning now that undergruond systzm is official to create a whole subway thing in project zomboid

[severe prawn]

this clip is gorgeuous

[severe prawn]

subway filled with zombies... Or imagine camps of survivors blocked off from two sides

[halcyon finch]

in the metro game sries style could be insane

[severe prawn]

oh hell yeah

[glacial cape]

Oh ik I was just joking lol

[halcyon finch]

Oh don’t worry I’m just so deep in copium I’m taking anything seriously..

[glacial cape]

ETA's aren't the best most of the times anyways because when they're not delivered it annoys some people which leads to unnecessary drama

[glacial cape]

Well at least it's no longer b42 wait cope lol

[halcyon finch]

Oh yeah that’s obvious and I completely understand why they’re doing it it’s way less stress

Especially since indeed TIS likes to take time I have no problem if they wanna develop it that way but community is way too toxic

[glacial cape]

Yeah it's pretty much any community you meet toxic people even the nicest ones I doubt any community is safe from it

[halcyon finch]

Though I would have liked if they could have made some hotfix patch for Mac and amd users who still can’t play but hey I’m a Mac gamer at least they recognized me and I won’t have to wait 1 year.

[glacial cape]

There were some preview notes for the next hotfix which I think mentioned a fix for amd users I'm unsure if mac was mentioned though

[halcyon finch]

Yeah it is so that’s why I’m waiting on it, but since it’s a pretty big patch fixing a lot of things I would have appreciated it to be like a 42.0.3 beforehand but hey, I’ll deal with it and play some Rimworld.

[glacial cape]

Rimworld players sighted +respect I love that game but I'm terrible at it and usually play with reload on lol

I need to play more and try without in on though I don't play it nearly or as consistent enough as I do some other games like pz

[halcyon finch]

wym ofc i play with reload mode on

i'm a modded player with reload on, if im not satisfied with the outcome i reload

(especially since i installed some mods such as the void faction who just make you bend over if they find it fun, but the monsters are neat.

[drifting thicket]

https://medal.tv/games/project-zomboid/clips/jxg8PpSXRXNOixk8d?invite=cr-MSxkWWYsMzIxNjQxMjE4LA

they really really need to fix this hitbox bug in the patch

Im not sure if it's in the patch notes

imagine losing a char because of this

lol

[cunning turtle]

F

[serene turret]

oof, that's a tilter

[regal spindle]

I mean it sucks but I make a point of not getting too attached to characters

[tawny orbit]

yep its really annoying

[drifting thicket]

I managed to get -debug mode and save it, but it's annoying asfk

also bonz bettercombat sems to fix the issue

seems'

[visual sand]

My worry is the hot fix will break existing unstable saves

[drifting thicket]

I think it almost always break

or maybe not since its just patch notes

[visual sand]

Well it's usually not intentional for patches to break saves, just the nature of unstable

[drifting thicket]

I wonder if the basement generator issue was fixed

I didnt read it all

Also wonder when they'll release the mapping tools to create maps for b42

I really want to create a subterranean map for every city

[vague trench]

i think it was i could have sworn i read it when someone posted that thingier

[willow needle]

anyone have info about multiplayer ?

[vague trench]

nopers

[cunning turtle]

nopers

[hallow adder]

Lower tiered skill books will be in an opened state while IV and V books will be in a closed state.

Hmmmm

[willow needle]

its not updates since dicember. i really hope will come soon. thanks guys

[hallow adder]

But why though?

[vague trench]

if only we scould stack them on their end thingies

[vague trench]

i dont think mp will come for a while at least until its in a more stable state and i think players would at least want more crafting fixed n implemented first

[vague trench]

have any of you guys that come across the specimen jars and other ones notice where theyre spawning? is it mainly in schools

[cunning turtle]

Seeyuh

[velvet egret]

just got bamboozled

[ancient depot]

100%

i am looking for the ping

[lucid ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/lindsay-ellis-no-thanks-thanks-i-hate-it-no-thank-you-rude-gif-12330907

[ancient depot]

wher is it

[vague trench]

lol

right

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[ancient depot]

if they added that as the pic, tehy are fucking evil

[lucid ginkgo]

ope changed again

[true smelt]

🤡

[ancient depot]

wow

[heavy crown]

Must of added new cigarette recipes cause people getting rolled and smoked

[true smelt]

New Game, Project Raccon

[vague trench]

lol

[vague trench]

hahahaha

[true smelt]

New Game, The Last Raccon of Us

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[vague trench]

lol

paws the teemu version

[hallow adder]

Smoking

[vague trench]

thats a spork!!

[hallow adder]

Oh wait, that's a wrench

[vague trench]

no its a spork lol

[hallow adder]

Spoffing?

[velvet egret]

sporko

[vague trench]

haha

[velvet egret]

[cunning turtle]

sporko dead

[velvet egret]

icon changed again

[vague trench]

wonder if pz chat is flipping lol

[cunning turtle]

This is funny

[blazing coral]

it's draw your raccoon to work day

[vague trench]

okay everyone draw a poorly drawn spiffo

[velvet egret]

indeed they are! What a way to bring the community together

[heavy crown]

Back to normal

[true smelt]

Can someone tell me if baby animals can live independently through the feeder, or do they need milk?

[blazing coral]

bro found the orphanage too difficult so he decided to make one himself

[heavy crown]

They should need milk. I have not faffed enough with animals to know if they actually do

[true smelt]

am doing tests, and it seems that the animals don't completely need milk, because weeks have passed and only after 20 days they became thirsty, but they don't drink the water. Could it be a bug?

[true smelt]

I think that high feeders make it difficult for small animals to eat, but sometimes it seems like they can, it's confusing. 😅

[vague trench]

there i drew u guys a heart cause ur guys are cool

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[true smelt]

❤️

[severe prawn]

this is sooooo cute omg

[velvet egret]

🧡

[true smelt]

Spiffo 🥹

[true smelt]

Spiffo in its childhood phase

[vague trench]

lol

spiffo after murdering

[true smelt]

More realistic

Doesn't even look guilty for the Knox Country infection.

[glacial cape]

Some of you should be hired to do some art for TIS some of these are brilliant 😂

[vague trench]

ahahah

[hallow adder]

https://tenor.com/view/obrigada-bom-dia-amor-oi-kk-boa-noite-com-deus-gif-6867227864544178347

[edgy kiln]

its ai lol

[light drift]

Yeah theyd fit right in with the art guys they hire lol

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-unamused-whatever-oh-well-so-what-gif-10171209

[cunning turtle]

Someone got offended

[edgy kiln]

what

[formal mango]

?

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-9530645621900919442

[versed dagger]

[light drift]

It was literally a joke

[glacial cape]

Oh fr? Its bad that I didn't notice that, I guess the ones @vague trench drew isn't AI lol?

[hearty pond]

so i tried stitching together the cake slice model into a big cake and...