Cortman by Night

[median pecan]

“The last day for unstable to release is <t:1735707540:R>” doesn't hit as hard as the day counter

[dapper umbra]

Looks like the TIS team was at Gamescom: http://youtube.com/post/UgkxEDiGZi2UNwf8-Iv0VUaqYMPu12DM54fl?si=91wB3FSZUTCrA3Vm

[balmy tartan]

B42 is next week
The voices in my head told me

[livid gull]

nice

[sterile wyvern]

b42 is TODAY

9pm gmt

[lyric jasper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021403997464186932/1273695783614546063/Tastege.gif

i can taste it

[sterile wyvern]

what a freak peepoo

[dapper umbra]

I like it. That mouth might as well be mine as I think of B42

[dusk verge]

Oh, then this month's Thursdoid probably won't be jam packed with new info like this Thursdoid.

Think about it, if they are to go to Gamescom, they needed time to prepare whatever they need. Demos, trip necessities, bookings, planning, venue setup and devices, and all of that. All those preparations can take up development time, but it is necessary for marketing purposes.

Which is fine, since we still have a few months left.

Ohhh, but it is also possible the attendees at Gamescom might be playing Build 42

[granite ruin]

I wish

[dapper umbra]

We don't know if they went to Gamescom as presenters or as guests

[serene bay]

pretty sure they would have tweeted something about it if they were presenting

[dapper umbra]

Yeah, probably. They likely just went as guests

[pine lintel]

Because this isn’t the kind of thing that you can give an estimation for

It’s not like each step of the process is laid out, there are too many variables and potential problems that make a timeframe difficult

It’s not like a boss giving you a project, it’s like a boss telling you to design an airplane out of car parts

[lost orchid]

why is it the most common thing among any game tho, giving a release date when a release is coming?

what is tis doing that’s so different?

[pine lintel]

For big games that have exact release dates, it’s because when they announce it, the game is already 99% done

[lost orchid]

that’s not true with big games, i’d argue with small games

[pine lintel]

Then they’re also already done or they’re doing tasks that can be reasonably predicted

[lost orchid]

the “reasonably predicted” part is what i don’t understand

[pine lintel]

But B42 is bringing mechanics the game hasn’t had, and that need entirely new functionality with the rest of the game

[lost orchid]

i guess the game being bug simulator doesn’t help adding new features that get bugs

[pine lintel]

I can’t tell if you like or hate Zomboid

[lost orchid]

that was a serious answer

since the game is so buggy it’s probably hard to add more features that then get bugs

[pine lintel]

I suppose that’s part of it

But I’d imagine a lot of it is because these entire systems are being made from the ground up

[lost orchid]

the reason why i’m so confused is because of the argument i made a while ago that idk if u came across

that they were so confident to post on twitter that it’s 2024

but not confident one bit when it’s couple months before

[pine lintel]

Hindsight

[serene bay]

also have to remember most games aren't building engines from the ground up these days

[pine lintel]

We’ve all made overconfident claims about things

[serene bay]

They use Unity or Unreal. TIGS is building (and rebuilding) the engine themselves

[lost orchid]

wonder why they made the decision to build the engine

[serene bay]

because at the time Unity and UE and Source engine had massive licensing fees

[lost orchid]

doesn’t seem like a game that needs custom features

oh was boutta say the fees are nothing

[serene bay]

the "free" licenses didn't come out till way after they had already invested in their engine

[pine lintel]

You’d be surprised

There’s that meme about game dev where it’s like “making a gigantic lava spewing monster? Easy. Can I give him a scarf? Can’t, sorry”

[serene bay]

UE4 became free to use in 2014, TIGS started dev work in early 2011

[lost orchid]

sounds like an old meme then lol

but i get the point

[pine lintel]

Game dev isn’t easy or simple

Recall that it was an entire ordeal to allow us to have more floors

[lost orchid]

ur telling me there’s no Make Multiplayer button?

[pine lintel]

Yes

But show me the multiplayer unity plugin anyway, ignoring the when, the how, the why

[lost orchid]

with them slowly merging things to 3d hopefully they find the right balance

like idk if 3d furniture would look great or trash

definitely needed though

need to be a carpenter to move a couch lol

or else…

https://tenor.com/view/shattered-gif-22349745

[dapper umbra]

I'm still a proponent of pixel art. I've never even played the game before B41, and I think the pixel art character designs were superior.

Even if it couldn't really handle non-orthogonal angles

[serene bay]

Won't be a B42 thing

[lost orchid]

yeah ik sadly

[serene bay]

Unless they decide to change that

I really do wish I had a video of the slidey furniture we used to have

Looked like it was on ice

[wind ore]

its almost the end of this month.

[lethal flint]

Thursdoid in 4 days... Kinda

[karmic prism]

I reckon the biggest reason for this is the no crunch work style the devs have, their approach is always like ," it gets done when it is done."

[dusk verge]

This is incorrect. They only announce dates if 1) the publisher has confirmed multiple times with the developer that the game is scheduled on time as planned, 2) When the publisher mandates the game is to be released on that scheduled date, bugs be damned.

See Cities Skylines 2 as an example

Otherwise, dates are not given.

[craggy grail]

The pros have existing tried and true design practices and professional project management. They know roughly how long it takes to realise a design because theyve all done it many times before. And they know how to scope a project in order to meet deadlines.

[dusk verge]

Dates are changed, games be delayed, if the publisher or the developers noticed the scope of the game isn't where it should be, or playtesting impressions have gone wrong.

[dusk verge]

5 days for me. Time zones.

[candid stag]

Some (not me)

[sonic pewter]

i believe your head

[dapper umbra]

You say that, but then we've been getting years of publishers pushing out bad and buggy AAA games by a crunched development team just to meet a corporate-mandated deadline.

It's unique to the games industry given how video games are the most expensive and complex pieces of media to develop and create.

[craggy grail]

Touche good sir

To be clear i wasnt critizing TIS' work philosophy either. Think its great

[serene bay]

This is why when people try to argue against Early Access I point out ALL games are early access now, even if they don't have the tag.

[dusk verge]

Games not properly tagged as Early Access should've been labeled as "Public Alpha", in my opinion.

[dusk verge]

What swags will you plan to get once they return from Gamescom?

[raw hemlock]

Blog post is due, what a worrisome sign.

[serene coyote]

worrisome how?

[dapper umbra]

It's due in 4 days

Besides, we still have 128 days left in the year

[rain agate]

There's a lot you can do in 128 days. Like reading!

Lots of reading!!

[lost orchid]

unironically been my whole couple of weeks

just straight reading Usogui

[wind ore]

3 more days until the developer blog post arrives

[sonic wadi]

1 more day until b42

[dusk verge]

OHHHHHH 👀

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-meme-anime-react-anime-reaction-arakawa-gif-8258439823509290590

[silver ledge]

Is that last months dev log?

[dusk verge]

This is the current dev log posted near the end of last month. 4 days later, you will see a new dev log.

[lost orchid]

goated manga

[wind ore]

these monthly blog posts have been showing better content.

[serene coyote]

130K members in this server now

[serene bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-cat-jam-head-bounce-kitty-gif-17946989

[wind ore]

excellent choice

[empty forum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[raw hemlock]

Already done reading, start programming.

[rain agate]

Already done programming, the cycle starts anew.

[gusty trail]

https://xkcd.com/303/

xkcd: Compiling

'Are you stealing those LCDs?' 'Yeah, but I'm doing it while my code compiles.'

[rain agate]

😂

[ripe sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/good-movies-rule-gmr-avengers-end-game-movie-don't-give-me-hope-hawkeye-gif-9699367132154830787

[dire hamlet]

I have insider information, they're going to announce a transition into VR/AR so you can play on the go.

[lost orchid]

“no headset required…”

[dire hamlet]

Yeah, I already panned 5 of my neighbors and the zeds are banging on my doors.

Which mod makes them yell "police"?

[lost orchid]

prob bugged out

police station isn’t near the residence

[dapper umbra]

Okay, let me take it back for you: it can be anywhere between 1 and 127 days from now

[lost orchid]

still too much to hope for tbh

[empty forum]

I feel like it wont come out this year

[livid gull]

[median pecan]

Part of me believed this was true before becoming a dev 🥲

[serene bay]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-han-solo-lets-keep-a-little-optimism-here-gif-16327143

[dapper umbra]

I'm a dev. It actually happens when I'm running some tests that take a long time to load.

[final umbra]

I think it may be more common in software development than game development

[median pecan]

I have other stuff to do always

I mean sometimes I'll hit compile & check my phone but at least at my company there's not really “goof off” time—being salaried means that just takes away from my time to do the other stuff

[final otter]

I have seen it b42 this thrusdoid

[sonic wadi]

It's true

[eternal otter]

I can post reactions too, right?

[dusk verge]

https://tenor.com/view/faceoff-gif-23531470

[eternal otter]

Me stepping on a lego piece I was trying to find for a whole week

[serene bay]

🤓

[sonic wadi]

This is a reference to the fact that b42 comes this week

[dapper umbra]

/s

[lost orchid]

or maybe getting stabbed by a bug after debugging for a week

delaying by 2 months

[wanton wind]

Thursdoid tomorrow (Hopefully)

[mental owl]

Hopefully we are able to play unstable beta before christmas

[serene bay]

🎄

[candid stag]

Non-devs seem to think that game dev is just adding "visible content" that the player can use like Features or Weapons, when in reality, that's just 1%, and 99% is stuff like this that actually makes the game work but that the player never actually sees

[woven chasm]

Smh
These are clearly just WORDS with no MEANING
When will you add the VISUAL stuff I care about like pooping

[sonic wadi]

I dont know what that is but it looks too much like a changelog

Therefore that means they are writing it and that itself means the update is finished

Get ready for release tomorrow

[serene coyote]

[uneven pike]

It doesn't mean that the update is finished. These are probably commit messages. People write them every time they submit code changes, which can happen several times a day.

[boreal flicker]

bababababa I can't hear youuuu b42 drops in 10 minutes

[last rivet]

Is build 42 coming tomorrow what do you guys think?

[boreal flicker]

its coming today

[last rivet]

Good sir, what makes you think so?

[boreal flicker]

it came to me in a dream

[last rivet]

Crazy

[boreal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-crazy-i-was-crazy-i-was-crazy-once-i-was-crazy-crazy-i-was-crazy-once-gif-4471500993328921192

[rain agate]

Madness!

[lost orchid]

lol i wish u can just write every patch note after years of work, remembering what happened years ago

[woven chasm]

The notes would just be "guys we really don't know at this point, you'll have to find it for us and let us know what changed because there's too much"

[lost orchid]

“i think we changed this but idk”

[dapper umbra]

That sounds like the patchnotes I write at work

[dire hamlet]

With how much people just invent about PZ, I can't wait to see reddit threads about made up stuff and complaining it's not in the change notes.

[lost orchid]

“where are NPCs in the list?”

[dire hamlet]

No it'll be like "Guys my character was able to (do something that's obviously not real), are the devs not putting everything on the change notes?"

[serene bay]

[dusk verge]

👀 👀 👀

Changelogs! 😄

Wait, I didn't know broadcasts were not multithreaded, or multithreading-safe.

But I guess I can see how that can be exploited in B41.

Daisy-chaining walkie-talkies... UGH, I never thought of that before! Then again, it's probably pretty easy to crash the game.

[lost orchid]

still got over 5 months to try it out before the changeligs even come out

[wind ore]

Tomorrow is going to be a fun day for PZ fans

[dusk verge]

Is it weird that I prefer reading the full changelogs, including all of the git commit hashes, over playing the game?

[boreal flicker]

Waiting for holidays vs surviving the holidays

[boreal flicker]

Based on the gif Filcher had sent earlier I wouldn't get my hopes up

[lost orchid]

said blog post we are all waiting over a month on:

“work seems to be going as usual, more polishing, no info yet

missing rosewood? he’s how it looks at night with our new lighting system! (just another muldraugh clip but now rosewood)

also a peek on the work done in rosewood
(nail shop getting a better roof)

farming overhaul was going smoothly, but unfortunately had a too large scope, and to make sure we get B42 out this year, we will be delaying peppers, herbs, and most winter crops till a later date

more Profmobius work to show!
one more bush type already existing is now being generated in the procedural wilderness. More plants in later builds
(pic of a bush)

did we mention lighting? here’s a clip of a dark room being lit up from opening a curtain
(said video)

we found a bug where zeds weren’t spawning in higher levels correctly, so insert name has been working on that and it is now working smoothly
(pic of a building w zeds in it)

We also realized that the gunplay still needs some realistic handling, so work is now being done on adding more variables affecting you

not only that, but a sneak peek of our new gun we will be adding! only this for now, more in later builds
(literally one of the 6 pistols but a different color, pistols still reigning over all)

Lastly, QOL fix reducing wood weight by .1”

mainly a joke, but wouldn’t be surprised

😂

[uneven pike]

Whoa!

[boreal flicker]

This sounds too real r you a time traveler or smth lmao

[lost orchid]

i’ve seen it all

[uneven pike]

!thursdoid

(i want more of that please)

[past haven]

I want to see more basements or surrviving in the wilderness in this next blog post

[sonic wadi]

They will definitely showcase the expanded erosion Lenny talked about once two years ago

God I hope they actually do

[wind ore]

basements in abandoned town area of the map with houses

I wonder if some industrial buildings will have basements and even some commercial buildings as well

[boreal flicker]

God please let August 29th bring some good news

My copium supplies are running low

[shell tiger]

ah but the wait make the reward all the nicer!

[eternal otter]

That Lenny guy again, we gotta find who he is

[lost orchid]

Lemmy find that out for you

[dusk verge]

This lenny?

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-eyebrow-flirt-smile-gif-5516050

[dry peak]

i rlly want to see that revamped fire system they showed off like two years ago as well, that looked very cool

[dapper umbra]

Purportedly, there hasn't really been any work on that front.

[frail mantle]

What a larp, let my game enter a recursive loop soft lock like god intended

[dapper umbra]

Does seem pretty neat how it's gonna spread and burn based on the flammability of the items on a tile

[frail mantle]

This game needs more ways to crash randomly

[lost orchid]

i guess this is it..?
to all who stuck around,
all we’ve lost,
and all that are soon to come,
we made it.
It’s thursdoid season yall

[dire heron]

Yippee

[serene coyote]

today’s the day

predictions?

[livid gull]

Workshop milestone

[serene palm]

I usually try predict what could be shown every blog post but this time I’m really not sure

[serene bay]

I predict it...

There will be text, pictures and maybe a video.

[uneven pike]

I predict that it will not contain b42 release date

[red hedge]

With the linked animation i just hope for some grapple/execution with more weapons

[sonic wadi]

B42 toda6

[boreal flicker]

new lighting showcase

and another new muldraugh house

[candid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-thinking-the-simpsons-focus-gif-16290110

#1266019666157895690 message

[candid stag]

Correct

[wooden gazelle]

didnt need to run my hopes into the ground like that 😦

[boreal flicker]

all of my copium tanks just exploded simultaneously

[last rivet]

guys don't bother to hope for a build 42 release before december. It will be released then because it will technically still be 2024 and understandably TIS wants to maximize the profit. Releasing a big update in the Christmas season probably is very lucrative cause people tend to spend the most amount of money around that date.

it's sad but understandable I guess

[uneven pike]

2024 is a promise for an unstable release, who knows how much will it take to push that to stable branch

[tiny cargo]

I presume the thursdoid will be in 4 hours or so right?

[uneven pike]

so I guess it has nothing to do with Christmas sales

[last rivet]

That's a reasonable point, but if that's true I don't think we will see the unstable release this year

[boreal flicker]

tbh I see a possibility of them moving it to 2025 all together, they'd have no problem with that

[last rivet]

but if that's the case then there is no reason to give any estimates if they never get fulfilled

[boreal flicker]

first half of 2024 guys

yeah, exactly

[last rivet]

well that was unofficial they said

[boreal flicker]

did lemmy's reddit account get hacked or smth

[last rivet]

no idk the argument was just that it was unofficial

[boreal flicker]

im confused

[last rivet]

and I believe them, they were always honest when communicating with the community

well I guess it was some misunderstanding

or smth

I think lemmy is not part of TIS

just server owner

[woven chasm]

[candid stag]

Absolutely. That makes total sense. We definitely have the update finished but are just keeping it for ourselves, just to be greedy.

[boreal flicker]

kek

[woven chasm]

Lemmy is literally one of TIS founders, just an optimistic date that fell through.

[last rivet]

oh then I got it wrong my bad

[last rivet]

well idk that was not what I meant . It's just that december is the last month of the self set period of release and it happens to be around christmas so one could think it would be presented like a christmas surprise...kinda wholesome imo🎄

[candid stag]

2024 remains an estimate, but things are looking good in my (extremely) uninformed opinion. But in no way IMMINENT.

[boreal flicker]

autumn 2024 is gonna be stacked with updates for goated games

terraria factorio zomboid stoneshard etc

hopefully

[uneven pike]

• BG3

[tiny cargo]

All we can do is hope and pray that a semi colon wasnt forgotten in one of the branches as all the systems get put into unstable.

[boreal flicker]

my waffle iron laptop cant run it but i heard that its pretty good

[uneven pike]

it truly is, if you like tabletop RPGs

[tiny cargo]

It is good. Not yet finished act 1 playing with 3 friends avoided spoilers so far.

[candid stag]

I'm still on Tentacle Island but don't feel like putting 200 hours into it

[proven cliff]

Actually I would prefer it be released around christmas as it coud boost sales

[boreal flicker]

are you a tis shareholder

[proven cliff]

ofc

[boreal flicker]

[proven cliff]

oh look its gonna be build 42 o clock

[last rivet]

real wachtel moment

[proven cliff]

🗿

[serene coyote]

it’s not a promise. It’s a plan

[serene coyote]

there’s no consistent time that it drops

[tiny cargo]

Thats why I leave it to about 3-4pm bst. It should be up by then. 😄

[last rivet]

c'mon bro if we start making such differentiations, then there is no point in doing any estimates as I said earlier

[proven cliff]

yea because the devs are occupied with being gay and showing the light propagation demo for the 423th time

[lyric jasper]

Project woke

[proven cliff]

frfr

[rain agate]

Hey if it's looking good, all's well that ends well! Looking forward to today's news. 😄

[uneven pike]

Dude, this is rude. They're making the update and they up posted with what has been done so far. There aren't many studios out there who do that. Take Bannerlord for example: no content update for over a year AND radio silence.

[bleak talon]

LMAO "being gay", what is this, the 2000s?

[proven cliff]

what i meant to say there was "straight"

[bleak talon]

you're an amateur

[proven cliff]

then you are a mhh

unfair i surrender

[woven chasm]

Don't bother with that here.

[sonic pewter]

1 more day until b42 drops

[last rivet]

Well I do agree that in general their communication with the community is a really noble idea, but I guess sometimes there is frustration with the content of it. They promised so many changes, while getting so detailed about them, that at least for some people there is a subliminal comparison between the current version and the promised content.

[bleak talon]

would you rather have no information?

[uneven pike]

I agree on some points but it is better than no communication at all.

[lost orchid]

good job guys stick to the plan

everyone up the toxic levels and we can have the chat close sooner and get the blog

[last rivet]

That’s a fair question. IMO it’s difficult because the devs themselves sometimes seem to do not want to have comms with the community when saying that they don’t like giving estimates and stuff. I personally love communication with developers, but it gets nasty when one feels kinda tricked by somewhat false estimates, if you know what I mean…

[bleak talon]

The devs put out an in depth dev diary every month - usually, every two weeks. They are pretty involved with the community overall

[last rivet]

We were promised a lot in the beginning and then there was that thursdoid where they said that there will be less content and even longer waiting time. That’s a toxic combination imo

[lost orchid]

what are said promises

[bleak talon]

I feel differently - imo, what we were learning @ that time is that they prefer to give us what's ready as soon as its ready, instead of arbitrarily having us wait longer to get those features. From my perspective, we are getting it sooner than we would have otherwise

In terms of promises - they had a big list of things they wanted to get into this update, some of it is there on release, other parts of it will be released during unstable

but u can't have it both ways. You either get it earlier than you would otherwise, or you get everything they mentioned they wanted to put in

they were pretty straight forward abt that

[last rivet]

I can’t name all b42 features they linked a list for that tho. But there was a thursdoid where they mentioned that they planned to much for the innitial crafting update and need to cut that down.

[bleak talon]

id rather get it early and unstable than delay

[last rivet]

I know that I can’t get both but why do we get both negatives? We get less content for a longer wait time…

[bleak talon]

that is just how coding works LOL

[proven cliff]

I just think its funny that the 42 techdoid post of 2022 could have basically been released today

[calm agate]

Didn't an update say we would hear more about a release date in the coming months, 3 months ago? - I might just have misremembered

[last rivet]

But that’s no valid explanation for that. Their game quality and sales show that they are an experienced team, so the community is putting trust in their estimates.

[bleak talon]

They specifically do not give estimates

there is no estimate to need to put your trust in, they do not give them

[last rivet]

„2024“

[bleak talon]

it is August

and they regret giving even that cuz of this kind of thing

just sayin

[calm agate]

I mean a dev did say once that it would release in the middle of 2024

[last rivet]

They said it was unofficial

[bleak talon]

yeah

also just like, chill

be cool guys, its comin

we'll see what the post says today! I'm excited

[calm agate]

We must fufill our addiction

[bleak talon]

😂 hopefully not at the expense of the developers, who should be thanked profusely for making our fav game

[calm agate]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[last rivet]

Yes I need animals in game at least other wise no TWD season 2 farm —> no life for me and my friends D:

[calm agate]

Jokes aside, I won't mind when it comes out

[sleek scaffold]

gnawing on the woodwork in anticipation

[bleak talon]

the content is 100% coming during the unstable beta, as far as im aware - and the impression that its a "longer wait time" is just not true, by cutting that stuff they cut down on a lot of delay that we never had to experience

but i can relate, it makes me sad to know PZ Animals are fully developed sitting on a branch somewhere and I cant play it 😂

soon!

[calm agate]

The forbidden si2 beta branch

[bleak talon]

what's everyone playing while they wait?

[calm agate]

I wonder if they still lack MP testing since last updated was 6 months ago

[last rivet]

Real Life sim

[proven cliff]

zomboid 3

[rain agate]

playing an anemic debt slave in ostranauts

[bleak talon]

is ostranauts playable yet? by which i mean, is it a game yet?

obviously its always gonna be... what it is

[median pecan]

Playing other games while we wait? I just write “project zomboid” on my walls and whisper predictions about thursdoid and the unstable release date

[candid stag]

Zero correlation between this page and anything dev related, best to just ignore it entirely

Play Fallout London, it's free (though you'll have to buy the GOG Fallout 4, I couldn't get it to work with the Steam one)

[proven cliff]

works with steam, you have to download a mod to downgrade it to the previous release since bethesda published a next gen update

[calm agate]

We all use different branches when when we code in features in games, why would this be different?

[empty forum]

lol

[candid stag]

Tried that but just wouldn't work

[proven cliff]

Had some issues with it too, don't know how i fixed it

[rain agate]

The devs just released the opt in public beta that introduces system travel and modular reactors. That gave it a big boost in terms of replayability

[wide bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPN0qhSyWy8

Obligatory

[wanton wind]

Half an hour til Thursday is over

[final umbra]

What timezone exactly is that

[sharp narwhal]

It's 630 am Thursday on the west coast bud, Thursday has only just begun

[wide bison]

But i need my monthly dose of scopium

seriously though probably not for at least a few more hours, probably like at least noon est

[dusk verge]

Try 1PM EST.

[final umbra]

indiestone is UK right? it's the middle of the afternoon then

[final orbit]

I dont believe in british people

[empty forum]

Yep, it´s 15:00 there.

[final umbra]

I should know, I am there, and happen to have a wallclock

[empty forum]

Oh, I am there too, but definitly without a wallclock.

[final umbra]

I have a phone, two monitors, so many ways to tell the time, but for some reason I had to have an actual wallclock

[candid stag]

Neither do I but it is fiction!

[junior ruin]

https://c.tenor.com/3JmLHoSFjlkAAAAC/tenor.gif

[lost orchid]

so can you confirm that it won’t be september

[cosmic tartan]

just wait for the blog lol

not like they'll say anything different

it'll be their getting close but not imminent as Pat just said

[lost orchid]

blog doesn’t say release dates?

[dusk verge]

Yeah, they can't confirm anything other than 2024.

[cosmic tartan]

if the blog doesn't why do you think they would do it outside of the blog lol

as if word wouldn't spread immediately

[lost orchid]

more like i was wondering what time imminent means to him since it’s “fs not imminent”

[cosmic tartan]

just assume it could be december 31st

[dusk verge]

Not imminent => Not this soon.

[cosmic tartan]

and also assume it could be later than that

[dusk verge]

It's Soon ™️

[cosmic tartan]

but then they'd still give you a date by answering your question

which they are not committing to, so there is no point in asking

[lost orchid]

not really you could say it’s not coming out tomorrow, that’s not a date

[dusk verge]

I'm pretty sure they will give the date, on the exact day they put B42 to unstable release.

[cosmic tartan]

word will spread and then the community is upset it's not September

[cosmic tartan]

they won't
they said they won't
they never did before

[dusk verge]

Good reason to play the song, "When September Ends"

[cosmic tartan]

it will just drop whenever they deem it ready for consumption as they said

[dusk verge]

ok then. Then, no announcements, just word-of-mouth.

[lost orchid]

what’s the difference between waiting for september to end with no date and knowing it beforehand lol

[cosmic tartan]

the community reaction obviously

[dusk verge]

You get the September Thursdoid.

[cosmic tartan]

were you here before, when the "first half" estimate lapsed?

people lost their minds

[lost orchid]

that’s a release date

different than an exclusion

[dusk verge]

No.

[cosmic tartan]

it was an estimate

[dusk verge]

"2024 first half" isn't a release date.

[cosmic tartan]

yeah

[dusk verge]

That's such a vague date estimate.

[cosmic tartan]

and still, when that vague thing lapsed it still caused drama

[dusk verge]

A release date will have a definite year, month, day, hour, and time zone.

Not down to the minutes.

[lost orchid]

i’m trying to say it was a time they thought it WILL come out

it’s different than knowing you need at least a month, where you can exclude that month

[cosmic tartan]

they will not give a release date, they'll keep talking about if its close in the blog, but it'll probably just drop be it with a blogpost or outside of one because itll drop whenever its ready.
As far as weve heard its not even in wider testing yet IIRC they had people from the community test it and we're not there yet

so it's def not dropping within the next month is my best speculative guess before reading the blog

[dusk verge]

I didn't know there is a community test.

[lost orchid]

that’s what i was saying…?

[cosmic tartan]

people talked about it before but it's very hush hush

[dusk verge]

If there is, and the conclusion is the game isn't there yet, then yeah, all bets are off for me.

[cosmic tartan]

couple modders etc

[lost orchid]

you guys seem to think i asked for him to say it IS dropping in september

[cosmic tartan]

well the reason they are not just releasing it is BECAUSE it isn't there yet

what reason would there be to hold onto a build that's already fun

[cosmic tartan]

no no, responding to both of you in general

understood what you meant when you explained

[dapper umbra]

I'll start! I'll start!

🎵Suuuuummer has come and passed🎵

[cosmic tartan]

but still, asking "IS IT BEFORE SEPTEMBER" is not all that different

[dusk verge]

That sentence though. Why single out September?

[cosmic tartan]

end of the third quarter

[dusk verge]

oh

[lost orchid]

just a narrow down

[dapper umbra]

I think we can bet on a Q4 drop

[cosmic tartan]

September is in a few days bro

hence "just wait for the blog"

[dusk verge]

I'm betting on 2025. All-in

500 Coca-Cola caps.

[lost orchid]

call

Q4

[cosmic tartan]

q4 unstable 50 bucks

[cold patio]

TISG has confirmed when t's gonna be out

and thats whenever its ready

[cosmic tartan]

whats TISG

[empty forum]

Press q for build 42

[cold patio]

The Indie Games Store duhh

[cosmic tartan]

TISG?

[dusk verge]

That's not TISG

[cosmic tartan]

The Indie Stames Gore

[cold patio]

calm down guys, Im dumb

[cosmic tartan]

lmao

[dusk verge]

Internet doesn't forget.

[lost orchid]

anyways imagine it’s january and they said 2024. saying it won’t come out february is a lot easier than saying the month it will come out

that’s why i asked if they know it won’t be september. didn’t ask if they know what month it WILL come

[empty forum]

It does

[cosmic tartan]

has that meme made it out of the discord yet

[dapper umbra]

"The internet is written in ink."

[cloud wing]

I pressed Q but Build 42 hasn't spawned on my hard drive what's up with that

[cosmic tartan]

is there a wiki page for the meme lore

[cold patio]

dont think so, never seen it on Reddit at least

[dusk verge]

"Words are mighter than pen's".

Sorry for the quote marks. That's a typo.

[lost orchid]

you misspelt penis

[dapper umbra]

Lmao this has gone off topic.

Anyway, my bet is still Q4

And I'm gambling my trust in TIS' deadlines

[cold patio]

I was honestly hopeful for September, but since Pat** recent comments... yeah, prolly going for November now

[lost orchid]

where’s nasko been

[dusk verge]

Vacation

[lost orchid]

cutie patootie

[nova vapor]

You take a sip from your Trusty The Indie Game Store cantine

[dapper umbra]

He prolly gonna show up here when the blogpost drops

[lost orchid]

final boss

[dusk verge]

*canteen

[cosmic tartan]

said in general chat hes sick i think

free from big brothers eye

[nova vapor]

MINOR SPELLING MISTAKE

[cosmic tartan]

when do blogs usually drop for you

[dusk verge]

Hope he recovers soon.

[dusk verge]

1PM for me at EST.

[rain agate]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[nova vapor]

I may never recover

[cosmic tartan]

oh wow

am I blessed by the gods

I went to check for the blog and its out apparently

[nova vapor]

😮

[cosmic tartan]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/08/tidy-up-time/

[lost orchid]

oh shoot

[cosmic tartan]

WHERE THREAD @light night

Who else does them lol

[lost orchid]

they think they’re slick fr

[cosmic tartan]

@woven chasm

[lost orchid]

@woven chasm you….

[cosmic tartan]

slackers the lot of them

probably all sick with the infection

[lost orchid]

it’s been nice knowing y’all

pat has awoken

see you in the next life

[cosmic tartan]

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