Stats for my x16 population playthrough so far

[warm thorn]

March Ridge is hell

[final flame]

Damn! Nice one

[pure bison]

No respawn, right?

[warm thorn]

yep just one life

infection is on but bites only

[tulip sentinel]

What mods ya got? If you don’t mind me asking.

[warm thorn]

mostly quality of life stuff and some to help with the early game

i dont play with a lot of mods

[pure bison]

Fair

[narrow shoal]

hey — stupid question but how do you get to your map with game paused? i never can and it’s killed me more times than i can count

[pure bison]

Open the map and then press the shortcut for pausing

F2 or F3

Look at your keybinds

[warm thorn]

What BuilderCai said but it only works in singleplayer

[narrow shoal]

OHHHHH THANK YOU this never occurred to me ^^’

[native niche]

Damn you went all over the countryside

[warm thorn]

yeah im trying to clear all the buildings on the map

probably wont touch the military base tho that is way too dangerous

[tepid girder]

Cool outfit!

[obsidian forge]

Do you actually loot thr homes tho?
Where do you store all of the food and tools?

[warm thorn]

I loot the food and make stockpiles in safehouses that I've made around the towns

I live out of a truck and trailer so I can store a fair bit

It also helps that I play with incredibly rare loot as well so I'm lucky to find a can of food in a house

[obsidian forge]

are you some sort of PZ god?

insane pop and incredibly rare loot???

bro im on multihit, normal pop, no respawn and no zombification

like damn

[pure bison]

Everybody has their own fun and their own pace, pal

Some enjoy when it's difficult, and others not

[warm thorn]

Nah, I've just been playing for awhile. I just turned up the difficultly with each death and now I'm here

play the game however you like

[elder badge]

I have difficulty just dealing with the population of fallas lake in apocalypse, how the fuck did you even live for 5 months?

[warm thorn]

Time and experience

I've tested different routes for x16 pop, found one that works for me and continued improving it with each playthrough

[tepid girder]

What clothes are those?

[warm thorn]

Nomad clothes from the Undead Survivor mod

[tepid girder]

Ooh, okay

[elder badge]

Nomad backpack is so great

[warm thorn]

True but its way to big and bulky looking for me

[elder badge]

Looks great if you want to roleplay a nomad or traveling lumberjack like i do

[warm thorn]

yeah I get that

[warm thorn]

7 month update 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

had a few close calls in Muldraugh

[obsidian forge]

Ive got a question

1. How long do you play a day

2. What are those traits

[warm thorn]

I play a fair bit cause I'm on holidays from work.
The traits are from the mods Moretraits and Dynamictraits

[obsidian forge]

Update?

[warm thorn]

8 month update 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[fair gull]

are those clothing from brita's armor pack?

the one in the first pic

[young lake]

Wow, i couldnt survive 1 month in 16x pop (probably, because I always quit my worlds after 1 week, got like 20-30 worlds where im at 1 week survived.)

[plush verge]

0 fire all weapon and only 18 car, respect🫡 So you probably didn't use those, molotov fire strats or some others? Of which honestly kinda feel cheaty

[warm thorn]

yeah i dont like using fire to kill hordes, it just feels like a cheese strat

[warm thorn]

most of my worlds usually last about a month, ive just been unusually motivated to continue this world lol

[pastel ember]

the fact that bro doesnt even have level 1 sneaking/lightfood is crazy

can we see your base?

[warm thorn]

ive been living out of a truck and trailer

dont have a permanent base

theres my base lol

[warm thorn]

Finished Maldraugh, headed back to Ekron preparing to head to Riverside.
Here's my whole map so far

[young lake]

Nice

[tall ibex]

im noob fr i might try 16x pop

[warm thorn]

🫡 goodluck

[obsidian forge]

do you have any mods enabled that make you level weapons faster? @warm thorn

[warm thorn]

no its just the modifiers from the traits

[obsidian forge]

oh, which trait is it that does this?

from more traits

[warm thorn]

um

not sure but if you play with dynamic traits as well as you level up skills you earn traits for that skill

which gives you a percent boost for xp

[obsidian forge]

nah i just read this, thats mad scary

"ractures by being overloaded, falling asleep if too much time too tired, etc"

imagine fighting zombies and just knocking out

or carrying your loot up and breaking your damn leg

[warm thorn]

its not as bad as it sounds

you pass out if you're max fatigue

and ive only fractured my arm once when training mechanics ages ago

[obsidian forge]

oh wow that sounds horrible

how did you fight with a fractured arm?

hear it takes like a week+ to heal

[warm thorn]

it was on another save but i just stayed inside reading books

[obsidian forge]

you do play on 1hours a day right?

[warm thorn]

yeah all that stuff is on default settings

[obsidian forge]

okok, your my PZ idol now

[warm thorn]

lmao

[obsidian forge]

ill quit the game if you die in this current world

[warm thorn]

🫡 ill live forever

[obsidian forge]

you better

i for some reason check this thread once in a while to check up on Ariel Booker

hes like my fav protagonist

[warm thorn]

she* but yeah shes one of 3 characters that ive played and actually rememered the name of lol

[obsidian forge]

all my characters are called after some NBA player or some TWD guy

ive had Larry bird cut his neck open in the woods

[warm thorn]

lol

[pastel ember]

did you have a strategy at the start?

[warm thorn]

yes thats the route i take roughly in the first week

[pastel ember]

also i gotta ask

how dont you even have level 1 sneaking

[warm thorn]

i dont sneak

its pretty dangerous with the amount of zombies

i personally dont see a point to sneaking when i clear out all the zombies in an area anyways

[pastel ember]

no like

did you never sneak in the start?

[warm thorn]

no theres way too many zombies at the start

@pastel ember set the advanced zombies options to this and spawn in rosewood

youll see why sneaking is very dangerous

[native niche]

There’s too many for you to go slow

[warm thorn]

^^^

[tall ibex]

Thanks! I'll need it lmaooo

[surreal depot]

Goes to show how kinda useless first aid is

[warm thorn]

true, apart from the injuries i started with ive only scratched myself twice from tripping over fences lol

[surreal depot]

The official wiki says something on the lines of “there's no point having a doctor when a single scratch can mean death”

As the description on both doctor occpuations

[warm thorn]

yeah just dont get hit

ez as

[surreal depot]

I feel like they should have a special trait that makes either negative moodles 1/2 as hard to recover (specifically like mental and injury moodles )

Or makes them appear 1/2 as often.
So it's like inbetween brave and desensitised

[warm thorn]

it would be good for the base game
some mods have traits for similar effect

[surreal depot]

A nurse and doctor are prone to stress so they would realistically get it less often.

[warm thorn]

yeah thats a good idea

[surreal depot]

Definitely should differentiate the two more tho,
It's light footed and shortblade. Aswell as one for some reason having worse first aid

Nurse should be changed to something like pharmacist or dietitian which would handle moodles.
Whilst doctor would handle first aid

[warm thorn]

and make first aid an actually useful skill as well

[surreal depot]

If only they could starve off zomboid infection of something

Like, an immunity to scratch and eventually laceration infection.

[warm thorn]

i think thats a bit broken and the devs have already said that there will be no cure

[surreal depot]

Not bites, the entire point of the Nox virus is to be inevitable.

[warm thorn]

^

[surreal depot]

Yeah its just hard to balance first aid in a game where a single injury can spur death and there's a basically instakill potential from zomboids

[warm thorn]

im not even entirely sure what leveling up first aid grants the player in the first place

[surreal depot]

Faster injury, infection recovery speeds lmao

Less chance of infection, faster bandage speed I think

[warm thorn]

oh lol

even then its better to just not get hit

and colds are easy to avoid too

[surreal depot]

At least give doctors and nurses inate thick skin

[warm thorn]

yeah so its more than just a roleplay thing

[surreal depot]

Or a multiplayer thing ig

Also first aid grinding is goofy

Tweezers and some glass

[warm thorn]

what stepping on glass and jumping through windows

lmao

[surreal depot]

Use glass to get a deep wound, suture the wound after removing glass, billion exp really

What other occupations need benefits

[warm thorn]

im planning on trying to max all my skills out so ill definitely use that

[surreal depot]

Imagine if unemployed could eventually evolve into an occupation, definitely not a vanilla thing but it's a cool idea.

[warm thorn]

i see unemplyed as more as a blank slate

[surreal depot]

Yeah it's meant to be, hence it not being vanilla.

[warm thorn]

its mainly the ones with first aid that are pretty shit but the next worse would probably be metalworker and electrician

metalworker is a -6 for +3 metalworking

[surreal depot]

Metalworker should have +2 short blunt
Electriction should too
I know it's +5 but seriously

[warm thorn]

maybe give electrician +2 short blade

[surreal depot]

Ehh wouldn't make sense for an electrition except screw drivers

I said electrition cause wrenches that's it lmao, now I realise those don't corrolate too much

Give electricians flame throwers

[warm thorn]

yeah maybe even +1 maintenance would make more sense

[surreal depot]

Ez

[warm thorn]

simple fix

[surreal depot]

Yeah, +1 maintenance with a maintenance multiplier would fit the negative points

[warm thorn]

-6 is way too much for just a metalworking multipler

[surreal depot]

Also I get deaf is meant to be harsh but they should beable to feel vibrations in their tools.

They should beable to feel gun recoil, gun jamming for example.
That's it

I'm doing a deaf character it's why I'm complaining.

[warm thorn]

dude i dont know whats worse playing x16 pop or playing deaf lmao

i choose keen hearing every time

[surreal depot]

Deaf is amazing
You get to listen to music stress free

It's also not stressful at all with no noise, it's weird

[warm thorn]

id be looking around constantly

im a paranoid player as is

[surreal depot]

Deaf should probably be worth 16 points rather than 12 at least.

It's alot but seriously

Noise is helpful

[surreal depot]

My friend died to rotting food and chose deaf not knowing I was too, so now we’re a duo watching eachothers backs

[warm thorn]

Noise is beyond helpful, its one of the major senses you use for information

[warm thorn]

2 deaf dudes surviving the apocalypse

[surreal depot]

Being deaf should make all vision traits cheaper (senses are heightened when you lose one :3)

[warm thorn]

🫡

[warm thorn]

that would be a better trade off

[surreal depot]

🤫 🧏‍♂️

[warm thorn]

lmao

[surreal depot]

Finally
A useful 1 trait point

[warm thorn]

hey if u choose speed demon as a deaf person u cant hear the car being a lot louder so is it really a bad perk

[surreal depot]

I'm talking about night owl being cheaper

It's a vision trait

[warm thorn]

do you mean cats eyes?

[surreal depot]

Yea

I'm deaf and have dementia

[warm thorn]

i choose cats eyes everytime too

[warm thorn]

bro lost the genetic lottery

[surreal depot]

When you have 2 point left and already have dexterous:

[warm thorn]

i could take or leave dexterous

id prefer cats eyes

[surreal depot]

i saw a side by side and genuinely couldn’t tell the difference

[warm thorn]

it makes fighting at night less dangerous for me

i try not to but its a just in case thing

[surreal depot]

i don’t bother going out at night lmao

[warm thorn]

yeah its not the best idea

but shit happens some times

[surreal depot]

do i hop on my zomboid server or play stardew 1.6

[surreal depot]

especially when i can’t hear

[warm thorn]

true

[surreal depot]

the best thing about deaf is saliva got turned off the other day.

not my decision

[warm thorn]

are you playing with new people?

i say that but i dont like infection either

i usually play bites only

[surreal depot]

mostly, it got turned off due to bugs, lag and such a large population

i got bitten in the chest with a max condition fire fighter coat and bullet proof vest.

lmao

[warm thorn]

L

[surreal depot]

wooow :(

but that’s how deaf willy was born soo

[warm thorn]

it was worth it in the end

[surreal depot]

yeah, went electrition because power went out and we really needed it (generator mag disappeared)

then i recently drank bleach to go back to my veteran build (was my first character on the server and it’s just so fun.)

[warm thorn]

how could you do that to deaf willy bro what the hell

[surreal depot]

deaf willy reborn

do not drink the sugar free monster

[warm thorn]

lmao

[final flame]

What’s your main source of food?

[warm thorn]

the food i find, but early game i lived off fishing

[final flame]

ahh okay

[warm thorn]

9 month update 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

maxed combat skills today

Riverside shouldnt take long at all so thats nice

[civic cape]

Do you have a story for Ariel?

[warm thorn]

nah im not much of a roleplayer

its just fight kill

[surreal depot]

tourist vs average kentucky citizens

[young lake]

Also grants faster bone break recovery i think at lvl 10 to 200%

[warm thorn]

god damn

[civic cape]

Right on. Thought she deserved some lore for being a bamf

[young lake]

For better info for traits just add the clear trait mod

And clear skills

And clear moodles

(i said traits when i meant skills)

[warm thorn]

true i am subbed to those mods just didnt play with them on this playthrough

might add them in

[young lake]

They are so useful

[warm thorn]

her being a bamf is her lore 🫡

[warm thorn]

yeah i like the extra info mods

[young lake]

Yee, by example i didnt know that the panic moodle gives you faster standing up speed

[worthy atlas]

Brother, a garden fork? Really?

[warm thorn]

garden forks are the best spears in the game

i was just grabbing whatever spears i found in zombies

[warm thorn]

Finished clearing the main town of Riverside, I can't be bothered clearing the rural areas because it's boring so I'm heading to West Point and I'm expecting to be there for a long time since Muldraugh took about 2 and a half months

[young lake]

gah dam

[warm thorn]

10 months! the longest time I have lived for

Gonna try and focus on aiming while clearing West Point but is taking so long and is kinda dangerous with the amount of zombies

I travelled back to March Ridge to pick up some extra guns and ammo from survivor homes so I'm pretty stocked

I'm also looting a lot of 9mm, 45 and 350 from zombies

[final flame]

damnnn nice one, jeez the weapon stats oml 😭

[warm thorn]

ikr I'm so happy with it

Seeing the full block

[final flame]

its so satisfying ✨

yeaaaa

[warm thorn]

lol

[final flame]

yeaa fair enough, dunno if u wanna do this or not but drivebying is extremely fun haha

[warm thorn]

I've setup some farms as well at my safehouse so I can get some farming xp

[final flame]

basically just where you have a shotgun/gun of choice and open the window and start mowing em

pretty safe too

[final flame]

oooo nice nice

[warm thorn]

Might be kinda stetchy with the amount of zombies

[final flame]

yeah suppose so

mol + guns is fun too

[warm thorn]

I added up like 70k zombies in west point

its crazy

[final flame]

oh geez 😭

nevermind then haha

thats so many

[warm thorn]

heres a population density map for x16

[final flame]

how does it work?

[warm thorn]

need to download it to zoom in

[warm thorn]

just shows how many zombies are on each cell of the map

[final flame]

oh right yes

i downloaded

[warm thorn]

have a look at Louisville

[final flame]

jeez wow over 12k in one tile

in west point

lemme look

oh go

god

thats alot...

[warm thorn]

and the crossroads mall

24k

[final flame]

is that the mall

[warm thorn]

yes the one outside louisville

[final flame]

wow

thats a hell of a lot of zombies

thats like 1/3 of the entire population of west point in just one tile

[warm thorn]

yeah its crazy

[final flame]

ngl its suprising seeing the numbers of the maldraugh streets being over 10k

[warm thorn]

the highway took so long to clear

[final flame]

makes sense

swimming zombies confirmed

[warm thorn]

[young lake]

they come when you fish, and bite the fish that you eat for knox virus gaming

[warm thorn]

Catching every rabbit in knox county

[serene wagon]

Nice

[native niche]

Not enough

[obsidian forge]

impressive how you satay on 80kg

i could never

started at 60, went to 92 now at a solid 82

[warm thorn]

i use a mod called minimal display bars that shows me how many calories ive eaten to i can manage it

[warm thorn]

I WILL CATCH EVERY RABBIT IN THE WORLD

[warm thorn]

11 month update
hundreds of shells, thousands of bullets and about 11k zombie kills and im not even half way to lvl 10 aiming

ive devastated the local rabbit population, probably a day away from lvl 10 trapping

and I lovely thunderstorm to start the month off

cooking maxed

and trapping

[young lake]

Damm show us your little save House pls

[mental needle]

this is hot

[warm thorn]

i just have piles of guns and ammo

[obsidian forge]

why are you level 9 cooking?
Is that something to look out for?

10*

[warm thorn]

I'm not sure what leveling up cooking does, I just wanted to max it

[obsidian forge]

so are you even using "cooking"

or just cookign shit to level it?

[warm thorn]

Just cooking shit

mainly rabbits

[obsidian forge]

wow

yeah thought i did sum wrong

now i feel better

[final flame]

ngl its so satisfying seeing everything level 10

[warm thorn]

Just looked at the wiki, leveling up cooking makes the food you cook provide more hunger

I'd level it up

[warm thorn]

ikr

[final flame]

yes

its worth leveling imo

[drifting condor]

the short blunt disrespect will be noticed

[warm thorn]

short blunt was the second last melee i maxed

[obsidian forge]

how many h do you play a day

[drifting condor]

90

[obsidian forge]

actually that is not possible due to "one day" being considered a metric which is equivalent to 24 "hours" so the maximum hours meep could be playing Project Zomboid will be under 24h 🤓

[drifting condor]

okay but i dont live on earth

[obsidian forge]

time dilation due to relativistic effects! If you are residing on a celestial body with significantly different gravitational forces or traveling at relativistic speeds, then your perception of time could indeed vary from our Earthly standards. In such a scenario, you could theoretically play Project Zomboid for longer periods than 24 Earth hours due to time dilation effects, as experienced in the context of their non-Earth environment. 🤓

[warm thorn]

no clue maybe like 6

[warm thorn]

Level 10 aiming holy shit

[obsidian forge]

now level 10 first aid

and sneaking

[craggy gorge]

now level 10 reloading

just spend 10 irl days unloading and reloading the same magazine

[warm thorn]

fuck that lol, ill be reloading mags in down time

[brazen wigeon]

Big numbers, hope you're having fun, you've got mods on though right?

[warm thorn]

yeah i posted the mod list early on in the thread, mainly just quality of life stuff

[pure bison]

Hhsjaj this thread is awesome

[warm thorn]

six digit kills!

[spare pilot]

cool

[final flame]

niceee

[warm thorn]

1 year update!

Never thought I'd make it this far

[final flame]

Apsolutely insane! Nice one! That’s litterally so much of the map claimed insane

[spare pilot]

only Louisville remains

[warm thorn]

just thinking about the highway to louisville makes me weap lmao

theres gonna be so many fucking zombies

[spare pilot]

Louisville, the city of wonders, came for an hour and disappeared for a year.

[spare pilot]

don't worry there won't be many of them at the beginning

[warm thorn]

ive gone to louisville on x4 pop playthroughs and the highway is covered in zombies

its gonna take weeks to clear lol

[spare pilot]

strange, I only had problems at the checkpoint and in the center

[warm thorn]

i have a population density map for x16 pop and its fucked

the checkpoint has the lowest amount of zombies on the whole highway

[spare pilot]

I don’t argue, but then when the city is cleared, you will be able to walk without armor and weapons, as if a city woke up not long ago without zombies and people, just you and no one else except broken cars, overgrown streets and rare screams

[spare pilot]

there are 2 difficult points

I can only wish you good luck

[warm thorn]

yeah thats point of this playthrough lol

[warm thorn]

thanks

[spare pilot]

Yeah

[spare pilot]

I just remember this feeling when I cleared the last place, like finally I can calmly walk around, disassemble cars, read books and walk around with minimal armor

[warm thorn]

its a good feeling walking through an empty town that was filled with zombies at one point

its a nice sense of progression

[spare pilot]

Yeah

[spare pilot]

I used to live in Louisville at the very beginning of my survival and when I cleared it of the infected I could dress in regular human clothes and go run it was cool

[hoary quiver]

@warm thorn are u with extremely rare loot settings?

[warm thorn]

i play with insanely rare loot

[drifting condor]

ag

i need to get back to zomboiding

[warm thorn]

West Point is completed 🫡

[craggy gorge]

Ggs

Louisville when?

[warm thorn]

heading off now, i got everything packed up and made sure the road to the bridge was clear

[craggy gorge]

Yeahh your car won't last long

the amount of roadblocks and jams is gonna be crazy lol

[warm thorn]

nah itll be fine
ive had my truck since month 2 and ive got lvl 10 mechanics

i upgraded all its parts in muldraugh

[warm thorn]

and im more worried about the amount of zombies not broken down cars lol

[craggy gorge]

I meant you won't get far with it since every road will be blocked

[hoary quiver]

aint no way

[warm thorn]

Yes way I always play with insanely rare loot, anything else makes the game feel to easy for me

[warm thorn]

You can just tow cars out of the way or clear some trees so you can sneak past

[hoary quiver]

Im strugling with extremely rare loot cause i cant find a can opener

[obsidian forge]

common sense mod was it i think, that you can open cans with forks etc. aswell

[obsidian forge]

your the project zomboid endboss

[warm thorn]

I play with a mod called common sense that lets me open cans with knifes

And you can survive without canned food. Just forage and fish

[rare badger]

same

[warm thorn]

new whip im "borrowing" from the racetrack

[plush verge]

Is respawn off and what do you have your zombie migration set to?

Because it could fuck everything and all your progress up

but makes for fun gameplay

also if somehow you find the gameplay bleak and boring or you feel too safe at your base or you feel like the bases you build are unecessary or even useless thenusing horde night,you can change everything!

[warm thorn]

Respawn is off and the migration settings are default

[warm thorn]

How?

[craggy gorge]

I think they mean the zombies will just spawn in your cleared areas and nullify your progress there zombie-wise

[warm thorn]

Yeah that makes sense

[plush verge]

Have you seen the video explaining zombie migration yet? Basically after a set amount of hours in your sandboz settings zombies wander of and migrate/fill up nearby tiles, Ie. you cleared 4 tiles or chunks, those tiles had a max population of 16k zeds, (so that's the max that can spawn if respawn was on, according to your population settings) NOW migration will guide the zombies so that they kinda fill those tiles up again (now they aren't empty anymore) but I'm not sure anymore how much they will fill up, but assuming on 16x your world has 4.7 Mil zeds and you just killed 50k this essentially nullifies any progress you think you had, ATLEAST IN THEORY

I haven't gotten that far YET in my 16x playthrough but the video (idk if I'm allowed to link it) tests this in debug

[plush verge]

Yeah

[warm thorn]

oh I knew about that. My playthrough is more about killing as many zombies as I can so I'm using migration to my advantage so I don't need to move around as much

[craggy gorge]

If you want kill just go to the LV mall

Easy 20k right there lol

[obsidian forge]

@warm thorn need some updates

[warm thorn]

My holidays are over and I work full time so updates are gonna be coming less frequently

[obsidian forge]

Damn :/

May I ask what ur working as?