BagZ of fun

[hollow agate]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/07/bagz-of-fun/

[steep umbra]

😮

[brazen cedar]

craa craa crow sounds

[keen glade]

Cool

[brazen cedar]

the new bags look sick

[round ginkgo]

SWAT STUFF HELL YEAH

[brazen cedar]

cases whit stickers dude

just gotta hope the swat and army stuff are way way more rare

[wraith needle]

NEW SPIFFO PLUSH CONFIRMD

[brazen cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1023230082669613068.gif?size=64&name=breakdance&quality=lossless

[slim lark]

Whooooo new stuff

[restive bone]

Spiffo

[brazen cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1082306632899379240.gif?size=64&name=petthespiffo&quality=lossless

[restive bone]

Spiffo pat

[covert wharf]

i have way too many plushies from mods dude. i need more

also i gotta collect these new bags

the new map looks amazing

[slim lark]

Man only thing that’ll suck is just how much this update will break mods

[rustic olive]

yeah, but the animals and machines will 100% be worth it in the end imo

[noble sinew]

GLORIUOUS

[mystic burrow]

That's why there's beta branch

[brazen cedar]

You're all amazing, devs. Thank you

[mystic burrow]

like even if the b42 beta is out the stable need to wait for more months

[slim lark]

What did you just call me?

[mystic burrow]

?

[slim lark]

I’m just joking with you lol

Calling me a “beta”

[mystic burrow]

ah ok

[dense gazelle]

wallpapers!!!

[spiral nebula]

Honestly such a game changer

[dense gazelle]

yah i wonder what mod creators will come up with if anyone ventures into wallpapers n decors

[vestal cosmos]

Awesome Thursdoid. Sitting/laying in all 4 directions? 🎉

[mighty slate]

awesome thursdoid the wait is worth it

[brazen cedar]

hahaha it's amazing how redundant the thurstoids are, ''we're working'', look at these new 3d models

[ornate pulsar]

Was there information in previous Thursdoids about the Fishing overhaul?

[mighty slate]

new ammo boxes

[mystic burrow]

my guess is fishing minigame is done

[hollow agate]

Just stop reading them dude

Grating reading you talking down on everything 9/10 posts

No constructive feedback there either. If the 3d models are all you could take from this Thursdoid I don't even know what to tell you, that's such an inane take.
If you expect fireworks in every blog when we post every two weeks or so that's entirely on you.

[restive bone]

[hollow agate]

Let people enjoy shit, no need to roleplay Debbie Downer every time

[mighty slate]

lots of new items to spice up the base and tables makes things look more immersive.

[pulsar moss]

I'm more interested in that box with the biohazard sign

[mighty slate]

could be an organ cooler or blood container

[pulsar moss]

First aid rework??

[mystic burrow]

Junkyard aka free metalscraps

[pulsar moss]

Imagine opening one of these just to find painkillers

[mighty slate]

finding human organs

[brazen cedar]

I've already given my constructive feedback, the game has been without an update for 8 months, and not even 1 item has been added, these updates could be paced, how many people abandon the game due to lack of news... but it's my opinion, I like it a lot from the project

[mighty slate]

could be one of these needle disposal bins

[hollow agate]

I'm not having this conversation every blog with you.

[rapid orchid]

i would love to take a big fat dump in that

[mighty slate]

organ cooler box

[restive bone]

Lots of ammo in this box

[carmine fern]

ALLOW US TO SELECT A VOICE LIKE IN OTHER GAMES PLEASE

[mystic burrow]

this is a singleplayer game, not live service game like valorant,

[mystic burrow]

who cares about people abandon game, people stop playing a game after a while to do other stuff

[dense gazelle]

nail pipe ! lol

[vestal cosmos]

Makes sense that would be a selection during character creation, right?

[mystic burrow]

https://youtu.be/ZTzeBluLk4E https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/03/critterz/ @ornate pulsar

[dense gazelle]

stickers!!

[mighty slate]

so far no fishing overhaul video on spear fishing

[carmine fern]

yes please 😄 i saw also an opinion to allow male/female voices regardless of gender of our character

if not officially, im sure there will be a mod

[mighty slate]

give our character a scottish accent lol

thick accent

[vestal cosmos]

Voice mods are gonna be great. If we don't have famous PZ streamer voices in game right quick I'll be very surprised. Looking forward to Klean and Sequisha voices myself. 🙂

[pulsar moss]

I want my character to have the voice of the dude from Postal 2. Someone will make that a mod

[ornate pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN1WlLVoHSQ when my character shouts "HEY" in B42

[ashen dune]

And the ability to piss on people.

[pulsar moss]

🤨

[dense gazelle]

ooo yay i wouldnt mind an extra one

[mystic burrow]

Does this mean underwater pump

Kentucky aquifier

[mighty slate]

spiffo plush backpack

should wells run out of water.

[dense gazelle]

an option for them to would be cool

[mighty slate]

wells are OP

realisticly rain would help replenish the wells and even lakes and ponds.

[rustic olive]

man I'm just glad we're going be able to fully clean walls

the ability to have a CLEAN house will be amazing

[round meadow]

Ayyy maybe in a year or two we might be able to place wallpaper ourselves :^)

[slim lark]

Will you have a conversation with me?

Oh : (

[carmine fern]

[fluid eagle]

Every thursdoid these days is minor sound design improvements or "Look we added this small thing that modders did 4 years ago"

[mighty slate]

hamburger and hotdog buns?

we can make hotdogs 😮

[dense gazelle]

some people enjoy these small but big to some of us things a lot of these things arent in mods?

[ornate bridge]

I feel like they Hired the guy that made the wall paper mod and the guy that made the containers mod

[pulsar moss]

Modders don't touch the java parts of the game (the engine I think) so thursdoids are still interesting

[mighty slate]

decorating bases will be much more fun to do.

[silent tendon]

Nasko, do you guys give out a rough ETA or like percentage of what you guys feel like sharing with your progress on your updates?

Just curious

[silent tendon]

This sounds like a hyperbole, Im hoping youre aware of the magnitude of the update right?

[hollow agate]

It's not around the corner and whenever we blog, that should be the takeaway unless we say otherwise in the blog itself.

As for percentages, much like they don't work well for progress bars when installing or coppying files, they don't give people a good idea on how long it'll still take, so we refrain from doing so.

[silent tendon]

That's fair, because I did notice that you guys are also doing some spring cleaning with the game engine, so I understand that it's going to be difficult and irresponsible to try to make an ETA when you guys are juggling with that AND all of the new content being designed. What I have taken away from the thursdoids is that alot of the main pillars are essentially almost finished and are being merged into the MP update, so that alone has me rather hyped. Thanks for the answer

[meager knoll]

As a software engineer, I can relate.

[slim lark]

Mfw I don’t Understand game design and development

[slim lark]

It will be out in the future

[brazen cedar]

thought it would be out in the past

[dawn night]

I’m thinking Q4 this year or Q1 next year

Just as a guesstimate

[sacred swallow]

wher build 42

[final silo]

MUD TOE

[rapid orchid]

guys lets place bets

im thinking it will come out in november or dec

[pale meadow]

that grill and shack https://media.tenor.com/1vIClxV5KXkAAAAd/peepo-comfy.gif

[mighty slate]

making some burgers using acutal buns instead of just sandwich bread.

[rustic olive]

Lol imagine deer hotdogs in a freshly made hotdog bun

With homemade ketchup and mayo

[mighty slate]

sausage on hotdog buns

sounds amazing

[rustic olive]

Could also make baloney

[mighty slate]

we need some potato skins.

[rustic olive]

Or baby back ribs

[mighty slate]

ribs would be nice since that is an iconic food.

if we could grow some grapes we could harvest its grape leaves.

[mystic burrow]

PZ players when TIS added a few pixels and text

[brazen cedar]

speaking of pixels and text, any chance devs are gonna add banjo cases to their other instrument cases?

[meager knoll]

Eh, I was hoping for it to be Q3, but it definitely gonna be either of those two

[mystic burrow]

Q3 is way too optimistic

[meager knoll]

They have to.

[slim lark]

Q2

[gusty jungle]

whaat is bro on aboutttt 😭😭 there was a patch log update like 2 months ago the only reason there hasnt been one in a while is bcz theyre focusing on b42

[gusty jungle]

yeah they do that idk what the problem is- why woyld they just redo a feature that is already made

[gusty jungle]

thats legit with every game

[slim lark]

Best not to give them any thought lol

[mystic burrow]

well Mojang kinda does that too

[brazen cedar]

how long until b42 beta branch is out?

[ornate pulsar]

https://tenor.com/0YPB.gif

[tribal yew]

I just wish the SWAT van had actual LDP markings instead of the fictional CLPD
Other than that I'm happy with all the new content

[bleak spindle]

man the development is soo slow they need to be atleast a bit faster I want too see more content before the fall

[hoary zealot]

in 6 hours...

also glad to hear "months" i was worried itd be a bad time to start mp shenanigans

i dont mean to be a nerd but as cool as the crafting overhaul is i love to hear the sound design changes. its like im there

[mighty slate]

lets hope we get to see build 42 arrive some time this year.

I remember before build 41 became available for players was when some youtubers and twitch streamers were able to play build 41 earlier.

[hoary zealot]

was it the testing branch? cos that'll be available to everyone eventually i think

[mighty slate]

build 41 when it was availible for the public it was in a IWBUMS.

[meager knoll]

I know IWBUMS is short for I-Will-Back-Up-My-Save, but I always read it as "I Wuv BUMS!"

[slim lark]

with the amount of content coming in this next update its "slow" for a reason

and truthfully ive seen worse

[spiral nebula]

Let the devs do their good work

[silent tendon]

And like I mentioned, the devs are also cleaning up their engine, so that alone is a very big task to get done

[meager knoll]

I long for the day that I can drive a car in the game while zoomed out!

And that new vision cone was AMAZING!

Seriously, we should go over and just review everything that's gonna be in the next build again.

[spiral nebula]

when they said that fps was increased by hundreds on their machines

[meager knoll]

Btw, can anyone figure out where this location might be?

From this image?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1134183038662754334/1134194467423932436/image-59-768x464.png

[mighty slate]

could it be Brandenburg?

[meager knoll]

It's way too far away from the river.

[brazen cedar]

The sharp border between the deep forest and the grey area makes me think it's that place in the bottom left corner of the map

[mighty slate]

would like to see improvment even for the countryside so that the world wont feel too empty.

[rotund socket]

on November 8 2023, Project Zomboid will be 10 years old guys. So watch out for that date imho

[open harbor]

i hope we get to see a acutal locomotive and pasanger cars in the map expansion cuz i always wanted a train base

[brazen cedar]

I would find it more interesting and faster for example: build 42 would have only the animals, then build 43 the new lighting system, build 44 the crafting system, and so on... it would make everything more fluid and with constant news

[dawn night]

I think they said somewhere that the reason they do mostly bigger updates is because each update they do basically rewires the game and resets a lot of work so if they released things one by one by one it would be even harder on the staff and may actually end up taking longer

[brazen cedar]

yes I understand that some things in development need to happen together, but not all... if not the game could never be updated, it would almost always need to be redone

but anyway, let's keep waiting

bradenburg💀

[tawny briar]

Me every minecraft update cycle

[tawny briar]

Bro they have add more content than minecraft does yearly

[lean pasture]

does anyone know where to find dev logs for recent updates?

[slim lark]

Well it seems you have two choices: either move on and find a new game or continue waiting

Cuz griping ain’t doing a damn thing

And the devs have shown plenty of stuff to be interested in

[dawn night]

#patchnotes for the actual updates that are out, #blogs_n_teases is where they post progress on the big upcoming update which isnt out yet

[slim lark]

Also Mods would constantly be breaking if they kept introducing new things

[brazen cedar]

indeed

griping does absolutely nothing though there's no point personally I only gripe to friends and family

[hoary zealot]

tbh this is the exact reason i dont play the sims 4 anymore

[silent tendon]

to be fair I can be understanding for anyone that feels like the update is taking a long time and getting frustrated, cuz objectively yeah the update is taking a long time, but I agree you can just go do something else in the meantime

[slim lark]

i suppose it is true that its been 1.5 years since the last major update

but the devs have been very vocal about the content being added

it could be worse, go look at valheim

I love that game but it takes them a long time and they dont really publish stuff as often

[spiral nebula]

I appreciate the transparency from the devs and constant updates on their progress. Sure it may take a while but you can tell there’s passion involved with the work and you know it’s going to be fairly polished

[mystic burrow]

Last update is at december 2022 41.78.16

[slim lark]

yes but im talking major updates, not fixes

[brazen cedar]

and if I'm not mistaken, before that they already mentioned b42, well before they made the last relevant update

just a comment

[slim lark]

my point still stands

either wait or go find something else to play

you wont be productive by whining on every post

[brazen cedar]

yeah man i'm just chatting

[mystic burrow]

I think the issue is multiplayer cost them so much time and bogged down the development

[slim lark]

but it was worth it from what im seeing

very very worth it

[brazen cedar]

no i dont complain on every post

[slim lark]

from what I saw with nasko replies it sounded as though you did but I'm too lazy to confirm that

so ill take your word for it

at least until next thursoid😏

[brazen cedar]

hahaha, I wanted to check it out, and it's been over 4 months since I've commented on how long the update is taking. It seems that nasko harbored a grudge, for the fact that he says that I complain throughout all the posts. Anyway, good wait

[hollow agate]

Probably just recency bias

Just overall negativity a lot of the times you comment, is all

[brazen cedar]

this is not referring to how long the update might take, which I mentioned it's been over 4 months since I've commented on this. And I certainly already left many compliments to the project, in addition to mentioning several times that it is my favorite game. But it seems that negative reviews are not welcome, as in any other game community, that's fine.

[hollow agate]

this is not referring to how long the update might take
I don't think I ever said that tho

[brazen cedar]

ok nasko thanks for your work

[hollow agate]

I just remember explaining the same thing to you like two or three times, but you brought it up again. That's what I was referring to when I was making the exaggeration "I'm not going to have this conversation with you every time"

[brazen cedar]

Don't worry, the matter has just come to light. I love everyone's work on the team and I love the game, I just sometimes take the space to bring up the fact how long it can take to update and if the decisions regarding this are right, other than that I'm here to defend the project regarding anything

good night man, peace

[mystic burrow]

definitely not condescending

[dawn night]

well guys

whos ready for build 94?

[slim lark]

I’m probably going to be dead by the time that build comes out

[soft citrus]

Probably?

[slim lark]

Me looking at parsa https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sweating-sweating-bullets-sweating-gif-17507069

[mystic burrow]

Sums it up

[hallow flower]

The whole “it’ll be eternally in Early access” that people dont get straight. Idk PZ got everyone by surprise, good zombie sim with somewhat good balance btwn Survival and PvE. A ton of stuff to do. It just needs more attention on the PvP (its trash) and the visual bugs+performance. If they make this build all about these things, the game would be 67% better.

[slim lark]

Pvp is not the focus

So ain’t gonna happen

Personally I’d rather they focus on everything but pvp

This isn’t day z

[meager knoll]

They did mention that they want to rework gunplay to make it more skill-based than stat-based, thus improving PvP.
Maybe for Build 43, since combat will definitely need to be reworked when we get NPCs and inter-human threats to worry about.

[slim lark]

Are we talking skill based as in player skill, and not in game skills?

I mean how would that even work? All you do is just aim in one direction and shoot

Not like you have the vats system

[mystic burrow]

like Zed zone

[slim lark]

I really want to see the crafting stuff

I want to see what’s being added

Someone needs to take that really small crafting tree image they posted and enhance it for me

[meager knoll]

Player Skill
No idea on the details, but my best guess would be, the closer your aiming point is to your target, the better your shot.
And I'm not saying it's gonna be COMPLETELY skill-based, just more skill-based, so it may just increase the odds you land a hit.

[slim lark]

Maybe yeah

Close range would be a higher chance of hitting

But they can’t all be headshots

Body shots are also a thing

[hallow flower]

Didnt they changed weapons to be less trash

[silent tendon]

I think the advanced trajectory mod is a really, really good implementation of shooting in this game, bad skills meaning slow to aim and will still miss some shots, but you at least know where you're shooting rather than just kinda guessing

seeing something like that in the base game would really, really improve shooting guns in the game, and will absolutely improve pvp I reckon

[slim lark]

Time will tell, the devs seem to like mods

Maybe they’ll implement something similar

[brazen cedar]

perfect

[ornate pulsar]

How popular is PvP? Seems like a low-dozens scene from conversations/content I see, but I do see a lot of advertisements for PvP servers if I try searching.

[slim lark]

I would wager not that popular

[silent tendon]

It's not so popular becuase of the shooting mechanics, and the fact that the game is permadeath, but I actually like some pvp and fighting for loot or territory, adds so much to the games dynamics

[mystic burrow]

The only problem I have with the devs is the car door animation, like they lied to us and refuse to fix it

[silent tendon]

I agree, idk if I saw in any of the thursdoids of that issue being mentioned, but something to be done about the car doors showing whether theyre closed or not is very much needed

[dawn night]

They should just implement the mod already out there for that in b42 or something until they can polish it

[tawny briar]

U know it ain't that easy

Ask minecraft why they couldn't do that

They would then need to pay the mod contributor sums of money and other such legal stuff

[tribal yew]

I mean, they can always ask the mod author to give something for free

Though the legal stuff still remains

[dense gazelle]

Car door animation lie? You mean when you enter a car and the door isnt shut and getting bit?

[ornate pulsar]

Yes

[dense gazelle]

Didnt they address that by adding a progress bar over the players as a placeholder until they could get to the door animations?

[ornate pulsar]

Yes, but it is cancellable by any action including accelerating or opening a map

https://youtu.be/dslmw2ikQlU?t=143

An example given in a video with a modded car to demonstrate

[dense gazelle]

-++ interesting cant say i have ever been bitten

cat

[thin inlet]

I haven't ever been bitten from having left the door open but I would rather not have that happen to me

Which is why I use the car door open indicator mod

[meager knoll]

Agreed. There 1000% needs to be some work on cars, animating doors, at the very least. It doesn't even need to animate open. It could just snap to open like a building door. But there's been little about vehicles being mentioned at all! I understand the whole team is stacked right now, but this problem has been standing for far too long.

[slim lark]

It seems like a low priority to me

[dense gazelle]

Yah i dont think i have ever been bitten from thats way

[lime wagon]

as someone who has been bitten through an open door I can say it was very annoying at the time (I didn't know a door could be open). But now that I know I just listen for the door close sound and it's not a big deal! (although an option to close the door via the radial menu would be good)

[dense gazelle]

Yah i didnt know doors were open like that until i saw the threads on steam foruma now i just avoid going in cara if zombies are around lol

[dense gazelle]

What does it say about the game?

[silent tendon]

It says nothing, this game isn't broken in the slightest aside from some jank.

That's just a bad take, sure the car doors are a minor issue but they don't make the game broken, like lmao?

[thin inlet]

Clearly the game is broken and unplayable now

[silent tendon]

Clearly

[slim lark]

Yes clearly it’s so broken

[pulsar moss]

That freeze that happens whenever I try to rip clothes is annoying not gonna lie

[slim lark]

i wouldnt know ive never had that issue

[meager knoll]

I imagine that, in most indie game studios, if there's a popular mod for something in the game, it gets a lower priority on the to-do list.
It's possible that the presence and popularity of the open doors mod means that open car doors is a low priority for the actual developers.

[thin inlet]

I think that happens because of the clothes mods maybe

There are mods that fix it and seem to work for me

[tawny briar]

Did everyone forgot they only recently transitioned to 3D in the latest build

Stuff still needs polish

[thin inlet]

Oh wait did they

[mystic burrow]

I found that there's animated car doors in the game files IGUI_VehicleNameSportsCar_ez and IGUI_VehicleNameModernCar_ez

[meager knoll]

Open doors and interiors 😩

[mystic burrow]

it is working but the devs hide the car model in the file I spawn it with cheatmenu

[tawny briar]

I think they have shown this before and stated it only works for that one car

If u look in a previous blog they talked about it

[tawny briar]

The entire game used to be 2d sprites and such and only in the latest build did everything become 3D and become multilayer iirc

[languid wedge]

There’s still plenty of stuff they’re working wrt 3D

Many of their blog posts mention performance improvements they’re trying, for one

[tawny briar]

Their still nailing down the performance stuff definitely

Hasn't the last few updates been improving multilayer performance as when last build released there was bugs and lag and stuff

Let them cook

[meager knoll]

*They're

[thin inlet]

*Ther'ye

[tawny briar]

*t'HEY're

[mighty slate]

excellent

[tribal yew]

*Hey'e

[slim lark]

Thair

Okay it’s time to stop before nasko comes to beat my butt

When will they add a spanking animation

[silent tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/4k-caught-caught-in4k-caught-in8k-8k-gif-20014426

[brazen cedar]

all weirdo mod users type shit with 2 spaces

[rapid bronze]

KI5 did it first (I have no clue what I am saying)