Bren After Reading

[tough pumice]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/04/bren-after-reading/

[thick axle]

first

what do i win?

[torpid zinc]

Swift bat to the head

[rough oak]

Project Zomboid strongly discourages the unlawful dissemination of classified military intelligence.

[lapis plaza]

lets gooo

[ivory marsh]

I genuinely appreciate A.A.Ron Hunting Supply. Great reference, I love you devs.

[torpid zinc]

Had me in stitches. Hoping to see Balake Bakery and De-Nice Hair Salon

[zenith wigeon]

new livery for vans

very nice

[shy quail]

I'm really curious on what is inside the plumbing van lol

[rare valley]

Oooooo I like this

[shy quail]

if it's tools or things like toilets and pipes

[torpid zinc]

welding supplies

[rare valley]

A fun little detail with the books

[shy quail]

oh yeah, welding supplies makes sense

I'm mostly interested in seeing all the "pre-lore"

[zenith wigeon]

plumbling van could have some lead pipes , pipe wrenches and other tools

[rare valley]

I like how illiterate characters can look at pretty pictures

[loud tendon]

Coughing great

[lean cradle]

this one looks sick as hell

[shrewd vector]

yay now i will feel obligated to bury the corpses and loocate the mobile

[torpid zinc]

Actually I'd love to see more vehicles and more options to customize them, like reinforcements etc. But that's for the future

[shrewd vector]

so excoited i can show my plants pictures of stuff

[rare valley]

We will be able to grow herbs and houseplants

That’ll be fun

[shrewd vector]

also the needing light to read is sick!

[lean cradle]

A good idea tbh

[main spire]

I mean it makes sense

[lean cradle]

Kinda a neat small detail honestly.

Cant look at maps while trapped in a dark closet anymore lol

[shrewd vector]

yah , its the tiny pockit sized things that make this game a golden twinkle

[devout seal]

The "PLEASE NOTE" at the end sounds like there should be preview sound files to listen to, but there aren't any (at least for me), am I misunderstanding that part?

[shrewd vector]

should be the youtube video

i tink?

[median valve]

If you can't see them on the post:
https://youtu.be/CNh-c1IwC7Y
https://youtu.be/4XrKyBX9vCE
https://youtu.be/zUCgURho-gU

[devout seal]

Ah, thanks

Oh nice

[whole finch]

Short thursdoid today :(

[devout seal]

I like the sneezing

(wow that sounds weird)

[visual ether]

This is going to be amazing!

[whole finch]

But cool news :D

[lean cradle]

Imo short but sweet

Really enjoyed reading the cool shit were getting

[shrewd vector]

the newspapers n stuff is awesome

[solid bobcat]

So happy to see small details with maps, newspapers, books, and photos
Love it !
Amazing work to all of the people working on this 💖

[rare valley]

Oh woah I didn’t see that

I can’t read in the dark anymore : ((((

[solid bobcat]

Gotta get ur flashlight and reward

[shrewd vector]

snuiggle up to fire place to read!

[solid bobcat]

Or get ur handy dandy gamebot attachment that lights up the screen and put it on your book :)

Lol

[zenith wigeon]

allowing the hand held gaming console to play video games

[south island]

the "a-choo!" sound could use replacing

[zenith wigeon]

nice van

must be a UPS truck parody.

[worn turret]

May or may not be working on a mod for this 😳

I'm glad to see the books no longer be consumed (looking forward to that bit the most, rather)

[zenith wigeon]

its like the characters eat the book after reading it.

if we get more types of books can we have some bibles in PZ.

[zinc cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-project-pov-book-read-gif-24808025

[rare valley]

That will no longer be a valid meme soon

A relic of the past

[thick vapor]

[zenith wigeon]

soo much ham

[rough oak]

it seems that the people who were hired to make more posts on PZ social media have already been fired 😦

[shrewd vector]

what?

[rough oak]

no?

[tough pumice]

The "what" means basically "what are you talking about"

We didn't hire people to post on socials

[rough oak]

ah, then I got confused, once I read in a blog post that new people arrived to help create content for the community, not game content, but social content really

but i must have read it wrong 🙂

[tight blade]

yeah these are getting tough to read. i appreciate the team fleshing out everything that they want to include in the thursdoids but; it's really just coming off as a teenager that is trying to rush an essay before class

the amount of redundancy in these posts are exhausting for somebody that reads every single update. there's just obvious bloat in the body text where you will say the same thing in 4 different ways

for somebody that just happens to stumble upon these updates its probably not too inviting because of how much of a slog they are sometimes.

we dont really care how long B42 takes or how little you can show us, we'll be patient but seriously hearing about new features being mixed in this far into B41's release is getting disheartening

being the absolute quality this game is, I have no doubt it will continue to grow as probably the best survival zombie game of all time, the dev team has great ambition but you guys may seriously need more of a team to pull it together, ive seen way too many indie games catch traction and then have an AAA studio create a clone and steal their lunch money

[rough oak]

ah, I remembered, what I had read e.e

[tough pumice]

This is something I do not understand.

We have several people on the team we can't just have twirling their thumbs

[tight blade]

i respect that, but this game has a laundry list of features that would be straight QoL right, but the mod community solves it for the most part at least in b41

like opening a can with a knife, or sitting in a chair

if immersion is the focus there's plenty of places to start right?

[tough pumice]

The thing that we said is something in b42?

[tight blade]

what sitting in furniture?

that's dope if so

listen you guys clearly have more ambition than any(?) dev teams out there, the creativity is insane

but looking at what is planed for 44, even 43... like, this could be the next big game

[shrewd vector]

I think its exciting seeing the upcoming additions to build 42, like the house plants, have yet to come across in other games I have played. The addition to needing lights to read i think is pretty immersive. The animations for sitting never really been an issue for me, tried the mod for a little bit, ended up uninstalling it. Just not that big of a deal to me. Id rather have other things I guess. To each their own.

[tight blade]

that wasnt the point, i was just listing things that could be implemented within an hour

[shrewd vector]

maybe it is a little more complex than that

[tough pumice]

We explained shy we can't just keep updating 41

[tight blade]

the engine rebuild is relevant yeah

[tough pumice]

That's what we did before build 41 and in large part why build 41 took as long as it did

Furthermore, sitting in furniture is 100% not something done within an hour

[tight blade]

so you think b42 will be a 1.0 of sorts at least from an engine / dev perspective

[tough pumice]

We went into this too

[tight blade]

LUA is tricky. it's not that tricky.

lets go to my other example then, smacking a can with a hammer or carving it with a knife

that's just balance work

[tough pumice]

Well you think that it can be done in Lua

[torpid zinc]

holy hell aren't you annoying

[tough pumice]

Sorry man, just frustrating having to repeat ourselves on this

[tight blade]

thank you

[tight blade]

no i get it

[tough pumice]

The mod certainly didn't take an hour to do. It's not just lua. We have explained that there is a lot more to it and that is evident if you spend a minute looking at the mod that suffers from limitations that we need to overcome. Some of the changes coming in 42 will alleviate some of that, making sitting in furniture easier down the road. We blogged about this fairly recently too.

[tight blade]

did i detect an insinuation that you're going to be switching languages too? no more LUA?

[tough pumice]

But when someone not only says "could be done within an hour", "it's not that hard" and "done in lua" it's just instantly clear that you seem to have a misconception about the necessary work

[tough pumice]

No, not a sliver of it

[zenith wigeon]

noice

[tough pumice]

And again, sorry if this comes off rude or annoyed. Just insanely frustrating having to repeat it so often, so it's just my frustration getting the better of me there

[tight blade]

nah i prefer real answers over PR / cooperate speak

if you say its hard, i believe you that im wrong

amending the current build is probably a nightmare and you guys want to tighten things up in the future, i get it.

[golden hawk]

I like the thursdoid writing style

[tight blade]

im extremely interested on your (the teams) perspective on the past year and a half. going from a long running indie project to consistently in the top 25 steam games for nearly a year? i imagine you guys are feeling on top of the world about how large of a community you've grown at this point

it makes me wish for more transparency on when but that's just my impatience

[golden hawk]

I always rush to read the thursdoids when they come out and I never click away halfway through reading them which is unusual for me and my burnt out attention span

[zenith wigeon]

Thursdoids are amazing

[tight blade]

i always* feel like the first half of the body is kind of a slog

but that's just me

[vapid coral]

Then watch a TikTok summery of the Thursdoid instead of reading it

[tight blade]

fair

id have to install tiktok tho

[hollow surge]

companion dogs

[grand jewel]

😩

[zenith wigeon]

emotional support animals in PZ would be nice.

[shrewd vector]

im right here

[grand jewel]

Although, that emotional support quickly becomes trauma if ol yeller gets eaten

I kinda dont want dogs cause id care about it too much 😅

[zenith wigeon]

pet bunnies in PZ

wild rabbit hunting in PZ would be excellent

[heavy fog]

cant wait to read the actual lore ingame

[strange bronze]

Been wanting a system that reveals locations like that for a while now, genius little addition.
Also more LORE, am i dreaming?

[torpid zinc]

it's nice RP-wise, but with how well the map is known, then I don't really see a lot of value there personally

[grand jewel]

Agreed, late game air drops with radio announcements will be the best really, especially for those who dont like the idea of respawning loot

The profession vehicles probably scratch that itch rly

[rare valley]

Well that sounds like a you problem

You don’t always have to go look at the map online

[torpid zinc]

yes, I'm not shitting on the feature per se

[rare valley]

Not to mention all the new map content we will likely get

[torpid zinc]

it's just my opinion

[grand jewel]

That sounds like a you assumption. Maybe they just know the map well without looking online?

[zenith wigeon]

your not ready yet ready.

[outer shell]

[rare valley]

Not every player knows every single location

[zenith wigeon]

we need a butcher store

[outer shell]

epic name

[zenith wigeon]

Sean Penn ham

[rare valley]

I for one like the idea of being able to have something revealed on the map

[outer shell]

[zenith wigeon]

cant wait to see map more expanded this will make PZ more excellent.

[outer shell]

Penn's Hams and Meats.
Prices that you can't beat

[zenith wigeon]

cant beat our meat

damn homonyms.

[grand jewel]

Isnt the map already huge? Like ridiculously big? Imo im not sure thats whats hampering gameplay longevity. More places to go doesnt necessarily equal more playtime

[zenith wigeon]

maybe more base locations to change up playstyle

lactose intolerant trait in PZ cant consume milk products

[torpid zinc]

allergic, sneezes during spring/summer

[zenith wigeon]

seasonal allergies

allergic to nuts trait

random food allergy trait " you are allergic to insert food name.

[slender basin]

I’ve purposefully avoided the online map for this reason.. trying to keep some amount of discovery. I’ve seen a lot of cool places on YouTube and stuff, but don’t know where it is and get excited when I find it

[slender basin]

^Especially on a smaller scale! It’s neat revealing parts of Louisville.. but at <100 hours so far I know I’m a LONG way away from being able to use that

I think it would be really neat to be able to find a “highway map” that reveals the highways on the map but not detail about actual exits, the towns, etc.

[crystal escarp]

Why’s no one talking about us getting 6 new tv channels

[slender basin]

Life and Living 4 life

[wicked sable]

Good point and plus more radio stations even though I love the TrueMusic mod

[wicked sable]

I love the work that you and your team does for Project Zomboid. Project Zomboid is one of the only games on steam that I've made a little review on I truly believe this is one of the best zombie survival games out there

Saying this because I don't see it being said as much but you guys are appreciated

[frigid tundra]

I really like that readables are not consumables anymore. And the cooldown between uses reflects that your character forgets more and more of the details, and would be entertained reading it again later

[zenith wigeon]

If reading skill books n shouldn’t make you bored and unhappy

[idle hemlock]

books that teach you professions and skills arent that fun to read irl, the boredom you get in game from reading a skill book for hours straight makes sense to me

[daring skiff]

Since there is some work being done on cars, at least to the extent of tweaking their spawns, it would be cool if we could get some door animations like some mods have implemented to address the "door not closed" situation.

Or for lack of dev power to do animations maybe just add a gauge light to the driving UI that tells you if a door is ajar.

[solid bobcat]

It can reduce some boredom to learn something, especially if that skill or profession interests you
Especially in an apocalypse setting in 1993, nothing much to do to entertain yourself besides reading so I think it makes sense

[rare valley]

Speak for yourself I get bored reading skill shit in my profession irl

[slender basin]

My biggest complaint is when my character gets bored from spending hours stripping every ounce of loot out of a building .. how is that boring??! /s

[shrewd vector]

i use boredom tweaks , im not sure if they plan on reworking boredom in future , but might helps if you want a mod :3

[grand jewel]

Especially if what you're learning is something thats directly gonna make your life easier/more comfortable. If i was in a zed apocalypse and just read some useful shit, id be excited to put it into practice

Maybe they could make it so that you get a level of satisfaction when you make something new, which negates boredom. With the bonus reducing each subsequent time you make it

[solid bobcat]

I guess it depends on the person haha, I love reading about psychology

[azure fiber]

Maybe the best balance would be to make leveling up decrease boredom.

[idle hemlock]

I think the fast reader trait could benefit from having a joy buff when reading books, because there are people who actually enjoy reading books quite a lot, but not everybody is going to find reading a book regarding carpentry a thrilling experience despite it being a very helpful use of your time

Maybe fast reader could be remade into a trait called "bookworm" or something along those lines, that was a thing in CDDA that made reading skill books a little easier

[rare valley]

i kid mostly, but hey if you like psychology have fun with that

messing with other peoples minds

[outer shell]

Mental Health Update when

[rare valley]

I’d like an irl mental health update

[zinc cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/vigilante-peacemaker-adrian-chase-freddie-stroma-vigilante-jump-gif-26410029

[lethal delta]

I really enjoy the little bits of lore that I find in pz when I come across certain combos of zeds, vehicles, and outfits like birthday parties, frat houses, house fire responses, or police raiding a hideout. I'm really looking forward to the additional lore with readables since it's not so easy to distinguish between one regular house and another

And I think the vehicles and pamphlets for loot locations will be very good for new players, even if more experienced players know the map or reference it online. It never made sense to me that my character wouldn't know their immediate area and place of work, and the pamphlets make that a little closer

[rare valley]

it would be good even for experienced

[lethal delta]

For sure, I'm looking forward to it myself

[empty ferry]

I'm Bren. Pat_Bren

[rare valley]

bren more like friend

[outer shell]

The urban myth is real.

[azure fiber]

What's the "Pat" short for?

[zenith wigeon]

Patrick?

[outer shell]

Patmyback

[empty ferry]

Bren

[worn turret]

Bren Bren

[shrewd vector]

moar!

[outer shell]

What is puppers short for

[visual magnet]

That persistent book one is the one I've been looking for

Reasons to build a library

[lethal delta]

💯

[frigid sand]

Every thrusdoid it's cooler than previous one. Im excited for B42 but no idea when will come right?

[rough oak]

2073

[zenith wigeon]

perhaps this year.

[rare valley]

Maybe a beta

[shrewd vector]

Mayybe Itll be a surprise! When we least expect, im so excoited

[zenith wigeon]

lets hope for a late 2023 for build 42

[azure fiber]

I'm betting late Summer until it comes out on the beta branch

[shrewd vector]

when we least expectorate it!

without tellins us and then we freak out

[azure fiber]

Imagine they shadow drop it on the beta branch

[zenith wigeon]

I remember the day build 41 IWBUMS was released to the public back in 2019 during some youtubers live stream since some youtubers got early access to that build 41 at that time.

[visual ether]

I know what I must do

[twin wind]

Can't wait. Waiting to start a new stream with the new update. Whenever it may come out

[zenith wigeon]

until we get to see some rabbits become shown in a blog post.

[rough oak]

They should make any container work like a freezer if it left outside in the middle of the winter. Makes perfect sense, and should be realy useful in "year's after the apocalypse" when there's no gas and working refrigerators

[rare valley]

Maybe gather up some snow and put it in a cooler

[zenith wigeon]

be able to melt snow and have fresh drinkable water

having rain collector barrels freeze in the winter preventing collecting water.

[rough oak]

We can't even sit on a chair guys, they're asking too much

[lethal delta]

💯

[azure fiber]

Maybe if containers checked the "temperature" of their tile 🤔

[grand jewel]

Something that'd be interesting for multiplayer i think is for moodles to be able to be influenced by other players. For example smoking indoors will cause other players inside who arent smokers to get unhappy. Maybe sitting in a car with someone who hasn't bathed in weeks has a similar effect. Inversely, just having company (that isnt irritating) could slow unhappiness build up

Could even make a whole "irritated" moodle for this stuff instead of directly affecting happiness. Being irritated could slow XP gains and randomly interrupt timed actions simulating that something is preventing you from concentrating

[twin wind]

😦 how much longer i wanna play so badly lol

[rare valley]

Just play now

[twin wind]

Nah updates going to be almost a completely different game

[rare valley]

It’ll be the same game just more items

And other things

Either way you gonna be waiting a good while, possibly a year

[grand jewel]

Its gonna be a lot more than just "more items" 🤣

[rare valley]

I did say “and other things”

[odd sleet]

It's almost like that's what an update does

[rough oak]

after cars and weapons, nothing else would impact the game as much as animals, in my opinion

[rare valley]

Npcs would

[rough oak]

i play multiplayer so npc is irrelevant

no npc will be more human than a human

[rare valley]

This may come as a surprise but not everyone plays multiplayer

So npcs are relevant

[rough oak]

And I didn't say ''for me'', right? haha

[odd sleet]

[grand jewel]

Mostly excited about the light system and depth map improvements. The stuff that really makes the game look and feel tight and polished. Not to mention how these kind of improvements could lead to more polished zombie behaviour too. Honestly think this updates gonna feel like a totally different game. No loot respawn becoming more viable changes everything

[rare valley]

I play with no loot respawn anyway 😏

More updated zombie behavior would be neat

[grand jewel]

Saaame, it just doesnt feel right otherwise. For large MP servers though, it quickly becomes a problem currently

[lethal delta]

No loot respawn and no zombie respawn for me