Just came backWhat teams can I build and should aim towards

[still grove]

SSJ Goku + Vegito (lead)
Daima4 (friend) + SSJ4s
Floaters:
Gogeta4 - Gohan - Piccolo

Should be able to do most of the content in the game right now

[uneven fjord]

what should i aim towards

[still grove]

Farming stones and getting the anniversary units I guess

[uneven fjord]

: ( all my prev units died i see

@still grove like everyone else is useless?

[still grove]

No?

[uneven fjord]

no other teams i can make?

🥺

so my goal is to get the anni units then what else? i feel so behind
my acc used to be so ahead

[uneven fjord]

someone can help me w making another team?

[still grove]

SSJ Goku + Daima4 (lead)
Daima4 (friend) + SSJ4s
Floaters:
Gogeta4 - Gohan - Vegito

[uneven fjord]

oh thanks

any other team i can make?

[still grove]

No obvious ones that I can see

[uneven fjord]

aw ok

[uneven fjord]

@still grove i got my summons done! here is the tags

i got both anni units at 55%

shud i save up my stones for part 2? and for the upcoming ezas do they fit on my d4ku team?

[still grove]

Yes save for part 2 and I honestly wouldnt run the units on the team unless you have no other options.

[uneven fjord]

okay so whats my current d4ku team then

[still grove]

Im currently writing it

[uneven fjord]

oh.. i thought they weregood? just no synergy i guess?

[still grove]

From what I can tell they are decent, but nothing too special.

And they fall off hard after turn 7

[uneven fjord]

so they dont replace anyone on my current squad?

[still grove]

Chief

Let me answer everything first

[uneven fjord]

sorry sorry

[still grove]

Just to make sure, you did include the "DAIMA" category in the latest box post, yes?

[uneven fjord]

yeah

i have v little daima units lol
only phy babyku n piccolo

[still grove]

Daima4 (lead) + SSJ3 Vegeta
Daima4 (friend) + SSJ4s
Floaters:
Gogeta4 - Gohan - SSJ Goku

[still grove]

Yea cause I didnt see any (and the Piccolo also isnt in that box)

[uneven fjord]

oh shit i did full and not partial

u want a reupload?
those are really the only daima i have

[still grove]

Just send the daima alone

[uneven fjord]

there ya go

[still grove]

You could replace the Gohan or SSJ Goku with the Miniccolo, he would provide support.

Gohan is just pure unit performance
SSJ Goku is decent performance aswell as orb changing for the Gokus

[uneven fjord]

i see when would u replace them? (im still rusty af)

cz i aim to do the hard content, also any units i need to aim for now that i got both headliners

[still grove]

Its just personal preference

both works in hard content

[uneven fjord]

ah oki so just depends who i prefer got u

wb who to gacha? 😮

[still grove]

I assume you mean who to roll for? The part 2 units

[uneven fjord]

all of them or any specific?
appreciate the help btw fr

[still grove]

We dont know the part 2 units, but its pretty much guaranteed that they will be strong

[uneven fjord]

i really like ssj2 gohan
but idk if he could fit in anything cz rn as u can see from my box i dont have anything 10th anni onwards, would the play be to get the 10th anni chars during GDC?

[still grove]

Sure that would work.

SSJ2 Gohan doesnt have the greatest units rn

[uneven fjord]

okay thanks, what do i need to get for a better current d4ku team or isit good enough?

[still grove]

Its good enough, part 2 will have units that can help the team (like AGL LR Gogeta4)

[uneven fjord]

okli tenks abunch brother appreciate it

[uneven fjord]

who does LR agl gogeta replace ? i assume either phy gohan/ ssj str goku

is he still a floater?

[still grove]

No he would go on rotation, but worry about that after you summoned basically

We dont know if the part 2 units would also fit or not and the 8Y EZAs might change the team aswell

[uneven fjord]

👌

[inland berry]

Lets see

[uneven fjord]

🥺

@inland berry anything?

[inland berry]

I would personally go with lr teq piccolo instead of int ssj4 gogeta

[uneven fjord]

Really?

Why

But hes a floater right in this team

[inland berry]

Yea, because he has more defense and a newer eza
(I haven't tried it enough yet)
But to me, he is also overall a more consistant unit (also when it came out i used it a lot more than int gogeta)

[uneven fjord]

I see
No one else to change right?
I'll only swap once the ezas hit?@inland berry

[inland berry]

Yea

[uneven fjord]

Kaiku replaces?

[inland berry]

I don't think you really need to swap after the eza

[uneven fjord]

And does anni agl Goku replace anyone?

Oh but isn't kaiku good for the team?

[still grove]

That would be a terrible idea

[inland berry]

Because of links?

[still grove]

Links and general performance

[inland berry]

I see

[uneven fjord]

Wb kaioku that everyone Is hyping up

[still grove]

Dont worry about him for now, let people actually play a unit first

[inland berry]

Yea

It can be tried for fun

[uneven fjord]

Oki

[patent apex]

@uneven fjord is this the team?

[uneven fjord]

yeah thats the current team

i wanted to know if i could optimise it further

[patent apex]

i mean the team looks pretty good to me

[uneven fjord]

really? VT , int daima ku? they dont replace anyone?

[patent apex]

definitly not int daima goku, vegeta and trunks are good but probably not over anyone on this team

[uneven fjord]

i see

so the only choices are piccolo over 5ku/ beastless

but what do u think about 5ku's performance

who is the first to be replaced in this team? int gogeta?

[patent apex]

who is 5ku

oh you mean 5 guys?

[uneven fjord]

Ye

[patent apex]

nah int ssj4 gogeta is great for this team, its either 5 guys or phy ssj4s
5 guys wants to get hit a lot which they cant do reliably while floating
the phy ssj4s are strong when they can stack up but we're slowly getting more units that are power creeping them

[uneven fjord]

I see so those two are the ones to replace first
Got it.. I love the gtduo phy tho

they were my fav anni unit

[patent apex]

dw they will always have their place in our hearts

[uneven fjord]

I'll use them till they can't be used

Mine are rainbow too

[patent apex]

go for it

[uneven fjord]

Tenks abunch
Wait so ur thoughts on 5guys performance?

[patent apex]

i think they are pretty solid
do very good dmg, solid defense, and provides some nice support but i wish their defense was a bit better

[uneven fjord]

I see so they aren't frauds... Okay thank m8

[patent apex]

[uneven fjord]

@patent apex @still grove i got lucky and pulled teq vegito 10th anni and str lr blue bois
what do i do

i just tried my lcuk on 1 multi

what do i change for my team

[still grove]

Replace PHY EZA LR Gohan with the STR LR SSBs

but besides that it doesnt change

[uneven fjord]

what team does teq 10th anni vegito go on? @still grove

does he not go onto the team?

[uneven fjord]

whats the rotation

[still grove]

Rotations dont change

You can in theory float the PHY EZA LR SSJ4s and put the STR LR SSBs on rotation, but eh

[still grove]

Correct

[uneven fjord]

eh u want the stacking tho

[still grove]

Exactly why I wouldnt do that

[uneven fjord]

what teams does he go on then.. 😮

wb the teq vegito team?

@pearl stirrup

[still grove]

Hes mostly for longer form content

[uneven fjord]

i see, what are those content and what team do i build using him (which lead) i just wanna use him

[still grove]

You can also replace the PHY EZA LR SSJ4s with him, but that way STR LR Daima4 loses quite a bit of power from links

[uneven fjord]

😨

not a good option i see

what if i just wanna run him in a seperate team? (still daima? :O)

i see 5guys is staying as his support is good?

[still grove]

chief

this is the third time

im telling you to let me answer first

before asking additional questions

you want a team for him, so im looking for a team for him

[uneven fjord]

🥺 understood

[still grove]

If you want to run him you can do so in FoB as example:
Vegito (lead and friend) - SSGs - SSJ4s - SSJ2 Gohan - Nameku - SSJ Bardock

This isnt a great team as the last two slots are kinda not so great, but this team can definitely do FoB

Hes also good in other content where he can be utilized with his counters, give me a sec

[uneven fjord]

i see ill wait for u to respond before asking

[still grove]

Daima4 (lead) + SSJ3 Vegeta
SSJ Goku + Vegito
Floaters:
Daima4 (friend) - Gogeta4 - SSBs

would also work as example.
Its weaker than the other team I gave you, but it works.

[uneven fjord]

i see alright, so FoB gamemode he shines alot do we not run VT in the FoB team or any team and what are the rotations for the fob team?

i read that the eza seems p dang good

[still grove]

You dont have rotations in FoB, you stack units as they need it

[still grove]

Which EZA?

[uneven fjord]

oh wdym? the VT int eza

does he not go on the team?

[still grove]

I overlooked them

I am personally also not a huge fan of them for FoB, but you can do:

V&T (lead and friend) - SSBs - Vegito - SSJ4s - SSGs - Daima4

Which would generally be better than what I mentioned before

[uneven fjord]

this is what i got when i filtered for the teq vegito lead

[uneven fjord]

is this a better team for not just FoB as well?

• the rotations?

[still grove]

No this is just for FoB

again, FoB has no set rotations

[uneven fjord]

alright wb general use and now that theres VT he still doesnt replace anyone in my original daima team which ik but does he change anythign for general use team?

[uneven fjord]

oki ill wait for the reply then.. just wanna know a general use team that uses teq vegito that isnt using daima goku

[still grove]

I mean that would just be much worse

but I guess

SSJ Goku + Vegito (lead)
SSBs + Vegito (friend)
Floaters:
SSJ2 Gohan - Gogeta4 - Gohan

[uneven fjord]

Is vt not that good to run?

[still grove]

They dont fit under Vegitos lead, you can run them under STR LR SSBs' lead, but thats about it.

V&T + SSBs (lead)
SSBs (friend) + Vegito
Floaters:
Gogeta4 - Piccolo - FutureHybrids

This should be enough teams until part 2 now.

[uneven fjord]

Oki tenks so which team above is better

[still grove]

The one with Daima4

[uneven fjord]

Other than that the one w ssb lead vs teq vegito lead

[still grove]

This one

[uneven fjord]

Oh I'm surprised that the vegito lead is the better one oki thanks

[uneven fjord]

@empty dawn

also the saiyan saga f2p team is good enough to clear the mission?

@still grove i cant do the part 2 missions right for 8th anni skill orbs... the one that needs planet namek saga

[still grove]

RecoomeGuldo + Ginyu (friend)
SSJ Goku + SSJ Goku
Floaters:
FPF (lead) - Gohan&Krillin - RecoomeBurter or Goku

[uneven fjord]

wait can i actually clear that mission? with 2 whis's i guess? and would the f2p saiyan saga team be enough to clear the missions as well?

[still grove]

yes, yes, I dont think so

[uneven fjord]

ah so f2p saiyan saga isnt enough to clear the mission.. lmk send my saiyan saga box then

tenks in adv btw

[still grove]

Vegeta + Yamcha (lead)
Yamcha (friend) + KK Goku
Floaters:
Goku - Yamcha - Gohan&Piccolo or Gohan&Piccolo

Yamcha is the F2P

If you want to wait till tomorrow you can use the Gohan aswell.

[uneven fjord]

il do that then, gohan replaces the str yamcha? when tmr comes out

[still grove]

He replaces the last unit

[uneven fjord]

tenks so he replaces @still grove gohan n picc? also i just got some advice that for my daima ku team ssj3 vegeta shud go slot 3? because he gets more buffs?

[still grove]

Yes he would replace them

No he shouldnt go in slot 3

[uneven fjord]

damn why is the dokkan only chat always giving me misinformation... they said for LR blues to be main rotation tgt w g4 duo

[still grove]

this is the entire difference between slot 2/3.
So a 10% support difference.

But in slot 2 he appears 1,5 times as often which means he supports much more via his EX SA

[uneven fjord]

i see
so blues still floating as vegeta is better?
also thye recommended phy g4 as slot 1 thats crazy no?

[still grove]

Yes
and yes lol

[uneven fjord]

OH ive been playing it wrong then ive been using daima ku as slot 1 the whole time

wait crazy as in

[still grove]

You should

[uneven fjord]

i shud use them slot 2 or slot 1

oh

man ok ive learnt my lesson. im only ever asking advice to blue names

the rest of the people i will never trust.

tenks raze.. i really appreciate it

[still grove]

The PHY EZA LR SSJ4s >>>CAN<<< be tankier in slot 1 in two scenarios:
Their first appearance (they have 77% DR for one turn), but even then STR LR Daima4 likely tanks better as he has much higher DEF with "only" 50% DR

Their first appearance after transforming (they have up to 100% DR for one turn then)

[uneven fjord]

oh okay and whenever they stack till 3mill defense i guess?

those 3 scenarios?>

[still grove]

No

[uneven fjord]

huh oh

[still grove]

They dont have DR post turn 1

[uneven fjord]

which level of defense would they start tanking better than

5mill i guess?

[still grove]

Like 12m?

[uneven fjord]

LOL WTF

really?

[still grove]

Yes

[uneven fjord]

why such a gap?

they have at most 900k defense on my screen

[still grove]

Daima4 has 50% DR and Guard
They have no DR post turn 1 and they lose their guard in turn 7

[uneven fjord]

i see .. last q
what number with guard to be better in slot one
since usaid 12mill wihtout guard

[still grove]

Unachievable within 4 appearances, but let me check the number

Daima4 tanks
5,65m for double digits
8,65m for 600k (survivable damage)

You need
5,8m DEF with guard to tank 8,65m for 600k
4,6m DEF with guard to tank 5,65m for double digits

No guard is a bit more complicated, but ill assume a "medium heavy hit scenario", so its a hit from an Extreme Enemy, but type neutral
There are better scenarios for the unit, but there are MUCH worse scenarios.
In that scenario you need
9,5m DEF to tank 8,65m for 600k
6,6m DEF to tank 5,6m for double digits

So I was a bit off with my 12m estimation

But you still need a shitload of DEF to be even comparable

Funfact to tank 8,65m for 600k in the worst case scenario you need 12,6m DEF

[uneven fjord]

Damn ye u can't reach those numbers .. in 4 turns

Tenks abunch tho

[uneven fjord]

@still grove @patent apex does my team change w the new ezas

[patent apex]

whats your team?

[uneven fjord]

@patent apex

[patent apex]

replace lr teq vegito with eza lr agl kai goku

[uneven fjord]

Wait my bad that's not supposed to be teq vegito
That's supposed to be lr gt duo phy

[patent apex]

still replace them

[uneven fjord]

Oh really?? Gt duo gone....
Wats the rotation then

o.o

[still grove]

Id personally keep the SSJ4s, but either way the rotation doesnt change

AGL EZA LR Goku would just take their place

[uneven fjord]

where does eza lr goku go onto?

does he take any spot or no?

also rotation being the same meaning they will be on the main rotation?

[still grove]

Yes

[uneven fjord]

oh why

[still grove]

I am not a huge fan of him as he falls off quite hard post turn 7

[uneven fjord]

so isnt he better as a floater?

[still grove]

No, you would want to get as much performance out of him as possible

And floating him would get you two appearances

[uneven fjord]

i see

[still grove]

while main rotation would get yout hree

[uneven fjord]

so hes good only for 7 turns

but u feel hes interchageable w ssj4s?

no one else?

[still grove]

Yes, if anything the SSJ4s

[uneven fjord]

dang

oki tenks dud

int gohan goes nowhere?

[still grove]

he loses guard and like half of his base stats post turn 7

which admittedly is pretty similar to the SSJ4s, however the SSJ4s have their transformation that is strong again AND they stack a lot, while Goku doesnt stack that much.
Also the SSJ4s provide much better links to Daima4

[uneven fjord]

theres healing end of turn too

i see oki tenks so its a toss up atm

[uneven fjord]

wbthis

[still grove]

Something something, dont ask too many questions at once

And yes

Gohan is just a weaker Goku from everything ive seen

[uneven fjord]

🥺 sad so hes just not bad but not like super amazing

[still grove]

His issue is that he only has guard for one turn and only has 70% DR for 7 turns (after 50%)

He doesnt stack DEF greatly (only normal which isnt a lot considering its only on his ultra SA) and post 7 turns hes kinda just a fish that relies a lot on his dodge

[uneven fjord]

rip i see

tenks

[uneven fjord]

@still grove bro lr eza kaiku is busted
Casually hitting 100-200mill and has revive and has amazing stuff

I can't believe he crept the ssj4 duos

He's better in shorter events vs them so I can switch between both of them

[still grove]

He doesnt have a revive, but sure

[uneven fjord]

The can't be one shot thingy

Bro when I saw 150-200mill.. I was like huh

[uneven fjord]

@still grove upon reading more into the links seems like beasthan has 5 links w kaiku
shud i run him over ssj4 int gogeta?

[still grove]

What is the team you are running rn?

[uneven fjord]

lmk ss

this is my team (also what lead to use w seza phy lr trunks, ill wait for u to respond first) then ill ss those tags :^)

[still grove]

I wouldnt really, maybe replace the STR LR SSBs.

One benefit of INT EZA Gogeta4 (performance aside) is that hes a TUR and basically needs no Ki from the field to function.

[still grove]

I would honestly not really run him in general.
He seems the weakest out of the EZA/SEZA batch

[uneven fjord]

i just wanna run him for fun since i got him rainbowed :^)

also REALLY REPLACING STR LR SSB? 😮 i mean im surprised int eza gogeta stays over beasthan phy, when shud i look to swap him out and ye using 0 ki is amazing

[still grove]

The thing is the performance of INT EZA Gogeta4 is always pretty good and hes a unit you can literally throw on any of his categories and he will function.

STR LR SSBs can most definitely be stronger than him, but if you have 7 units on the team that want Ki from the orb field it gets very tricky.

You gotta balance potential performance and usability

If you really want to run him then I guess post Vegetas Family as a tag

[uneven fjord]

oki

only vegeta fam? also tenks for that breakdown so its a balance of performance and usability (i feel most people just run all LRs right?) isnt beast kinda self sufficient or no i thought they would fit right in as a floater, i guess ill use beast over in gogeta on stages int ssj4 gogeta cant hang right?<

[still grove]

Yes

and a lot of people just throw LRs on a team and hope for the best, yes.
Thats not how this game works tho (for the most part, there are obviously full LR teams that works without issues, but thats because of the synergy between them).

With Beast I assume you mean PHY EZA LR Gohan, yes?

[uneven fjord]

yeah

ur thoughts?

[still grove]

I mean turn 1 he always has full Ki.
Turn 2+ (assuming he fully built up) he has 14Ki base and at max 16Ki through links.

So he needs to pick up 5 random orbs or 4 PHY orbs without the Ki link
or
4 random orbs or 3 PHY orbs with the Ki link

which is not consistent at all considering your main rotations already need a lot of Ki

[uneven fjord]

tru, well i guess it really depends if ssj4 int gets one shot i guess

[still grove]

He doesnt get oneshot in any stage

[uneven fjord]

really? hes that goated? dang

[still grove]

Daimageta + SSJ3 Vegeta (lead)
V&T + SSBs
Floaters:
SSJ3 Vegeta (friend) - SSJ Trunks - Vegito

[uneven fjord]

any other tags u need to see or its how it be?

[still grove]

can also float the SSBs and put the trunks on rotation in that slot

[uneven fjord]

LETS GO

also do i have phy daimageta? 😮

i dont see it

[still grove]

I thought I saw him, but I probably saw the Vegeta Jr

Uh

let me redo it

[uneven fjord]

ur talking bout ssj3 veegeta right?

[still grove]

Yes

[uneven fjord]

if i had him he'd go on the daima ku team ;-;

[still grove]

You dont have him

Can you also post Daima?

[uneven fjord]

my daima box is pathetic

[still grove]

SSBs + SSJ3 Vegeta (lead)
Daima4 + SSJ3 Vegeta (friend)
Floaters:
SSJ Trunks - Vegito - SSJ GT Vegeta or Trunks

[uneven fjord]

dang daima4 really? 😮 that kinda sucks

[uneven fjord]

that last slot omg

are we not running VT anymore?

: O

isnt vt way way better than eza gt vegeta / agl trunks?

[still grove]

You can run them, but that way you have to float the Daima4 or the SSBs

[uneven fjord]

ill float them then its just how it be like

rather than run a piss poor unit

[still grove]

Neither of the options are bad

[uneven fjord]

no reason to intentionally gimp myself right

[still grove]

I wouldnt give you the options if they would be bad

[uneven fjord]

agl eza trunks/ eza ssj gt vegeta
arent they bad

: O

[still grove]

No

[uneven fjord]

i heard many people talk bout how bad they r

[still grove]

Yes, the majority of people are stupid.

[uneven fjord]

F

is keeping VT and floating the blues/daima ku an alright choice?

or i shud run the 2 floaters

[still grove]

Sure, if you want to.

[uneven fjord]

oki what r the rotations, cz if i float ssj3 vegeta im cooked right?

[patent apex]

he’s not good when compared to the best stuff, but he still has a few strengths in there
gotta give credit to the unit where its due

[uneven fjord]

makes sense

[patent apex]

also idk who is calling eza ssj gt vegeta bad

[uneven fjord]

i see

im just curious since im running VT how do i avoid the double ssj3 same rotation scenario

oh nvm i got it

tenks abunch guys

[uneven fjord]

Why tf are people claiming Kai ku to be slot 3?@patent apex @still grove

[still grove]

Because his links arent that great, but they are fine in general.
Its again a balancing act between usability and unit strength.

Its basically the drawback of making your slot 1 have a worse linking partner, but have a stronger unit in slot 2 or having a "weaker" unit in slot 2, but having the rotation link better together.

Lets take the example of your rotation:

STR LR Daima4 + PHY EZA LR SSJ4s
Links: +2Ki, 85% ATK and 15% DEF

STR LR Daima4 + AGL EZA LR Goku
Links: 35% ATK

Obviously the first rotation is MUCH better for STR LR Daima4, however performance wise (early game) the AGL EZA LR Goku is much stronger than PHY EZA LR SSJ4s

[uneven fjord]

Hm so it's all nuance?@still grove

[still grove]

I guess?
Like both options are fine in terms of what to run where

[uneven fjord]

would u ever run kai ku slot 3? no right

too much of a waste

[still grove]

If I would run him: In most cases I would, yes.
Assuming that I have proper linking partners for the main rotations he would float.

[uneven fjord]

WAT

ok so go back onthe team yest

@still grove wat r the rottos

[still grove]

At this point can you just post your box again

[uneven fjord]

all?

okay ill post all then

[still grove]

Filtered by Daima4s three leads

[uneven fjord]

oki

[uneven fjord]

@still grove

[uneven fjord]

👀

[patent apex]

you need a str daima goku team?

[uneven fjord]

Ye cz raze wanted to see the box again

Cz there's new updates to my box

Wat u got cooking wisp

[patent apex]

gotcha i can make one

[uneven fjord]

Tenkius

[patent apex]

-lr str daima ssj4 goku (leader) + lr teq ssj3 daima vegeta
-lr str daima ssj4 goku (friend) + eza lr agl base goku

floaters:
-eza int ssj4 gogeta
-lr str ssb goku/vegeta
-eza lr phy ultimate gohan

im thinking of using all these guys but idk where i want to put each unit

cause lots of these guys are fighting for different slots

[uneven fjord]

Shouldn't agl base float

@patent apex wb 5 guys

[uneven fjord]

Tough choice

[patent apex]

5 guys can work, ive been a bit torn on using him over some other units

cause he also wants slot 1 to be hit

agl kai goku also wants to be hit a few times to build up as well, much less but still wants to be hit which is less likely in slot 3

you could use kai goku slot 1 for one turn and then float him after

[uneven fjord]

But he floats well afterwards + the support

Same as 5 guys

So u think beastphy Gohan is better?

[patent apex]

idk maybe, ive had times where i put him in slot 3 but then the other characters kill the boss before he attacks which can prevent his build up and 4 turn atk stack on 18ki

depends on if the fight has multiple phases

this is really a case of having many options and all of them will work similarly

i dont think swapping someone like phy gohan for 5 guys is gonna suddenly shift the team to significantly stronger or weaker

i would wait for raze so he can give his opinion too

[uneven fjord]

Oki tenks

[patent apex]

sorry if that was a lot lol

[uneven fjord]

All g

I enjoyed reading

[uneven fjord]

where raze @ 😮 i guess hes busy todae

also @patent apex ive been people use int lr eza gohan

ur thoughts??? 😮

man idk WHO TO PUT INT THE TEAM TOO MANY GOOD OPTIONS RIGHT?!

[patent apex]

you pinged him like right around the time he goes to bed lol

[uneven fjord]

i see

ill wait then no worries

but what do u think about the above statement

[patent apex]

he seems solid, i would need to use him a bit more but he does look like a competent unit at least until his intro buffs where off

[uneven fjord]

well

@patent apex lmk then ;-; I STILL WONDER WHAT TO RUN FOR MY TEAM

🥺

[patent apex]

i mean you can try out the one i gave

see what you think

[uneven fjord]

okay ill test run it and see how i feel without 5 guys

im kinda confused tho esp w what raze wrote above ur post (if u read it)

agl base goku has shit links n we have a better linked rotation no? @patent apex so he shud float?

keep the str blues on main rotation?

[uneven fjord]

does he have spot on my team?

[patent apex]

he’s basically pointing out an issue you get with running a rotation with kai goku and daima goku, they dont have many links together which make daima goku’s stats a bit worse
however despite this, kai goku is still a strong unit who brings a lot to the team so you could trade some of daima goku’s stats for kai goku and his abilities if you want to run him on rotation instead of floating him

[patent apex]

i would say no

[uneven fjord]

makes sense

but floating him shud be fine too right from what i understood

[uneven fjord]

RIP HES NOT GOOD enough to be on the team

F

[patent apex]

yes

[patent apex]

your team is already so stacked so no real reason to use him

[uneven fjord]

oh?
its considered stacked?!

👀 i see then the events themselves are hard i see... its not like when beast came out on 9th and i could autoplay eveyrthing

[patent apex]

yeah several events right now can mess up the best teams

[uneven fjord]

yeah its messed up how hard some is
BUT I LIKE THE CHALLENGE

[still grove]

Daima4 (lead) + SSJ3 Vegeta
Daima4 (friend) + SSBs
Floaters:
Gogeta4 - Gohan - SSJ Goku or Goku

[uneven fjord]

oh oki

why the flaot now? @still grove

[still grove]

I explained it here

both "works", but when iterating a team that I barely have in mind anymore (because im doing like 50 teams a day) its hard to remember the exact units, which is why I wanted you to resend the box

[uneven fjord]

Ye makes sense tenks

[uneven fjord]

@still grove @patent apex i dont have a team that can do the goma stage mission under 4 turns right... i cant seem to get it no matter how hard i try

[uneven fjord]

What's a 5 colour extreme team I can make to clear the gendarmerie missions

[half gulch]

Holy shit 400 msg here

What goin on

[half gulch]

Gendarmerie?

[uneven fjord]

The event

[half gulch]

Right?

[uneven fjord]

Ya

[uneven fjord]

It's how I learn n catch up back in dokkan

[half gulch]

You not have any good extreme unit

[uneven fjord]

So that mission is unbearable?@half gulch

[half gulch]

In last phase It need decent aoe dmg deal(example our glorious king gomah) or someone tanky

Even new lr int future Gohan can't tank this guy

[uneven fjord]

Rip

[gaunt imp]

Probably doable with LR Phy Omega friend lead

[uneven fjord]

Wats the team?

[half gulch]

I don't think he gonna do a thing bro 🥀✌🏻

[gaunt imp]

I’m sorry to say but that will take too much brain power for me

[gaunt imp]

? He is probably the best aoe unit rn

[uneven fjord]

[half gulch]

Stfu gomah the best

You fool nobody

😡

[half gulch]

There one way

Only one way I can think for you

Every heard of DOD?

Dodge or die

[gaunt imp]

Do you mind filtering by omega’s lead and sending it here? Inhuman deeds, GT Bosses, and Power Absorbtion

[uneven fjord]

Oki

[uneven fjord]

Gimme a sec

@gaunt imp

[gaunt imp]

i think you’re missing some

nvm

[half gulch]

Just use 2-3 char that can dodge (like kuu and broly trio) and use whis

I can't remember how much it let you use item

[uneven fjord]

So not possible rip

[gaunt imp]

i might be cooking

[uneven fjord]

Hm?!

[gaunt imp]

LR Teq CMZ (lead)
SEZA Int Buuhan
Teq Evil Buu
LR EZA Agl GF
LR EZA Teq Vegeta

Phy Omega Shenron (Friend) + EZA Teq Syn

alright

this looks pretty rough, however the rest should be able to survive until phy omega shows up to kill everything

[uneven fjord]

Oh shit

[gaunt imp]

Just make sure you hide teq cmz bc hes not on omega’s leader skill

[uneven fjord]

Okay so just use whis to survive n cook everything?

[gaunt imp]

lowkey forgot items exist

[gaunt imp]

yeah

[uneven fjord]

Okay will use this team then
Thanks abunch

[gaunt imp]

the entire team is just built to surive until omega shows up

[uneven fjord]

And then use omega to kill them all?

[gaunt imp]

hold on

i forgot sum

[uneven fjord]

Any priority to kill them at or just

[half gulch]

Gng

[gaunt imp]

gotta do some revisions, forgot it was all types

[half gulch]

You know

They have at least 60 million per unit

Right?

[uneven fjord]

Yeah

[half gulch]

And omega

Only did 40-50m

[half gulch]

You should get kuu first

He did 1100+% dmg stat on 3 atk

And he have dodge

[uneven fjord]

Idk who to listen too -0

[half gulch]

I'm just giving advice bro

[gaunt imp]

Im gonna test it myself before i give you the actual team

[uneven fjord]

Tenks man

Hope u get great pulls for part 2

[patent apex]

omega is perfectly fine in there

[half gulch]

But this situation

[patent apex]

also idk how kuu is helping this

[half gulch]

Dodge so no die + color for quest

[patent apex]

-lr phy omega (friend) + eza teq syn
-eza lr teq vegeta (leader) + eza lr agl nappa and vegeta

floaters:
-eza lr int rose
-eza str fat buu
-seza phy goku black

i think this would work

[patent apex]

theres better teq options than him

[half gulch]

I don't

Think so

[uneven fjord]

Oki will use it then tenks

Wats the priority to kill in the event btw @patent apex

[patent apex]

like which ones to target?

[uneven fjord]

Ya

[gaunt imp]

This team worked, but the team power gave is much better 😭

[gaunt imp]

Just target whoever is hitting your weak links to try and kill them first

[uneven fjord]

That's why he's the goqt helper

tenks for helping too tho jojuix

I appreciate it

[gaunt imp]

yeah, i didnt know teq vegeta leads inhuman since i dont have him

[uneven fjord]

the eza was quite alright

[uneven fjord]

@patent apex need some help @still grove to make a team for the 5 colour super class on the take down gendarmerie in 4 turns w no items
and for the gomah one as well

🥺

[still grove]

this team has all 5 colors

[uneven fjord]

this one can clear the goma in 4 turns?

then what about the gendemerie? 😮

that one that is 5 people at once

[still grove]

The Gomah one is very RNG even with a super strong team, but this has the potential to do it yes

The other event shouldnt be an issue with that team

[uneven fjord]

oki

[uneven fjord]

wait really... i feel like i cant kill all 5 of them 1 in turn

[still grove]

Its three phases, you have 5 turns and you can use items

[uneven fjord]

hm wait let me check the mission one more time

[still grove]

The Gomah one is no items

the Gendarmerie isnt

[uneven fjord]

oh really

whats the tip to playing both of them tho...

unironicall struggling on both :^)

@still grove

It is ...

It's really difficult f

[still grove]

You have items and a support memory to make more than up for the dupe difference

[uneven fjord]

uhh

u cant use items tho

so basically get a good rotation and swing it?

[still grove]

Whats stopping you?

[uneven fjord]

and ill clear in 4 turns?

[uneven fjord]

this

ive already cleared it

i just wanna finish this mission

[still grove]

ah

[uneven fjord]

🥺

[still grove]

then you still have a support memory

they dont count as items

[uneven fjord]

so just support memory n hope it wokrs out?

[still grove]

Yea, shouldnt really be an issue at all

[uneven fjord]

oki tenkiu

[uneven fjord]

@still grove i cant seem to kill the 5 people within 4 turns.....

[uneven fjord]

NVM I got it!

[uneven fjord]

whats phy LR anni ssj2 gohan's best team? so i can post my box for him

[still grove]

I mean you can slap him on Daima4s team, but he isnt exactly good

[uneven fjord]

oh what happened and who does he replace.. i wanna try him out

[still grove]

He can replace either PHY EZA LR Gohan or AGL EZA LR Goku

As mentioned it would be a downgrade in general

[still grove]

He just isnt that good

[uneven fjord]

rip he aged fast i guess

[still grove]

idk if I would call that aging, he just wasnt that strong on release.
Like hes decent, but nothing special.

He has his nuke turn which shows "wow big number", but besides that he doesnt have a lot going for him

[uneven fjord]

i see sad i hope ezas will save him, i love SSJ2 GOHAN MAN

[uneven fjord]

@still grove whats the best leads n units to run w LR ssj2 teq gohan eza

@patent apex

[uneven fjord]

@still grove @patent apex

What teams can I make using new LR Vegeta ssj4 duo

And is the new top duo leader skill not as good?

[still grove]

Daima4 (lead) + SSJ4s
UI + SSBs
Floaters:
Daima4 (friend) - Gogeta4 - SSJ3 Vegeta

[uneven fjord]

oh i thought we want ssj4 int as leaders no?

also i got agl LR ssj4 gogeta
and LR ssj3 goku!

do they not go anywhere?

[still grove]

You dont have those units

[uneven fjord]

i pulled them!

wait it didnt upload!

So daimaku lead is better than int ssj4 lead?

@still grove sorry for ping just wanted to update on thescreenshot i missed out

[still grove]

You can replace the INT EZA Gogeta4 with AGL LR Gogeta4 and then take an INT LR SSJ4s friend

[uneven fjord]

oh okay so that works better?

tenkius

is LR ssj3 goku just not having a spot anymore?

[still grove]

Too many good units now

[uneven fjord]

🥺 i see but i can use him if i want to i see

wb a goku daima lead team? the one u showed above or?

[still grove]

The team I gave you is Daima4 lead

[uneven fjord]

eza int gogeta stays? or just replace w agl like u said above?

also tenkies

[still grove]

You would replace INT EZA Gogeta4 with the AGL LR Gogeta4 here, but you take an INT LR SSJ4s friend to keep the intro.

[uneven fjord]

oh wait so daima LEAD + lr ssj4 friend?

why not lr ssj4 leader then? @still grove

[still grove]

because they dont lead vegeta fully, but you need them a second time to activate AGL LR Gogeta4s intro

[uneven fjord]

ah i see

so thats the best team atm u can see?

i get u, then what are teams that will use ssj3 LR gt goku then? (agl)

i wanna test him out too

[still grove]

You could replace the TEQ LR SSJ3 Vegeta ig

[uneven fjord]

ah i see oki tenk, then i can run double daimaku right?

also whats the rotation w agl ssj4 gogeta now

: O

[still grove]

yes and rotations dont change

[uneven fjord]

oki tenkiu!

but u wouldnt replace ssj3 vegeta right?

[still grove]

Correct

[uneven fjord]

🫡

[uneven fjord]

@still grove @noble nymph
What's my best team atm I can make AND what's a team that uses agl 10th anni gogeta n teq vegito lr anni

[still grove]

Diama4 (lead) + SSJ4s
UI + SSBs
Floaters.
SSJ4s (friend) - Gogeta4 - SSJ3 Vegeta

If you struggle with Ki you can run Gogeta4 instead of SSJ3 Vegeta, if you do that also change your friend lead to Daima4.

And the 10th anni ones are mostly for long form content like FoB

[uneven fjord]

Oki what would be their team tho

[still grove]

Gogeta (lead) - Vegito - SSJ4s - SSGs - SSJ3 Goku - Goku
Vegito (friend)

[uneven fjord]

Tenks abuncho

@still grove why the tw different leads

[still grove]

So AGL LR Gogeta4 gets his intro.

STR LR Daima4 leads SSJ3 Vegeta fully while INT LR SSJ4s do not, so hes your lead, but you need them as friends to get the Gogeta4 intro

[uneven fjord]

For this tho not the first team
Why agl gogeta and teq vegito leads

[still grove]

Ah sorry

Becuase Vegito is the better unit for FoB, but Gogeta leads the SSJ4s and SSGs fully while Vegito doesnt

[uneven fjord]

I see
If I go double gogeta it works too right?

For the leader skill

[still grove]

It would work, but you would have a harder time in the last two phases

[uneven fjord]

It kinda sucks that ssj3 Vegeta doesn't get the max value from the teams leader rskills 🙁

[uneven fjord]

Got it tenks
So it depends what I prioritise

[uneven fjord]

Just a question why not the new int ssj4s?

[still grove]

Because I didnt think about them, replace the SSGs with them

[uneven fjord]

Lol SGgs the worst unit here? But eh teh for fob all the good stacking unit r viable right

[still grove]

Yes they are and yes you want good stackers for FoB

[uneven fjord]

🫡 oki tenks

[uneven fjord]

@still grove can My box clean the Ex mission for fob

Its 15 stones!

[still grove]

Not that I can see, no

[uneven fjord]

Wats the ex units needed

[still grove]

-> Wrathly or Vegeta->SSJ Vegeta
-> GoFrieza or Broly
-> FPF or NamekVegeta

[uneven fjord]

Tenks

How do u pilot that team in fob

[still grove]

Its FoB you dont have set rotations, you stack units as they need it.
For the 7Ys (SSGs and SSJ4s):
Keep them on rotation at all times (preferable seperate rotations).
You need to gauge how much Ki you give them every turn as they can deal too much damage if you give them too much Ki, but you also dont want to give them too little so they dont do additional SAs (read their passive)
Ideally transform them during the Daima phase, earlier if you need the damage.

For Gogeta / Vegito:
Their base stacks ATK
Their exchanged form stacks DEF
You want to stack DEF to around 2,5m and then stack ATK.
That makes them tank basically all normals in the stage and in the later phases (starting from Fat Buu) you can SA scout by transforming them.
Transform them during the last two phases.

For Wrathly:
He can deal WAY too much damage early on, so ideally let him get his buildup from getting hit and then float him until like phase 25 or so.
Use his active sometime in the last three phases.

For Gomah:
He can deal WAY too much damage early on, so ideally float him until like phase 25 or so.
You dont use his active at all (if you have enough damage you can use it to clear the SAs in one of the last two phases).

For SSJ3 Goku:
He doesnt need too much stacking, so floating him most of the time is fine, but depending on the situation you might want to put him on rotation for a bit.
Transform him in Turn 5, he doesnt stack before transformation.

For Daima4:
Just float him, he deals too much damage and doesnt stack himself.

For GoFrieza:
Swap to Goku and float them, they dont need stacks.
Just make sure you give them a RBW Ki every time in the later phases.

For V&T:
Dont put them in slot 1 until the end, else they deal too much damage.

For FPF and NamekVegeta:
Always keep on rotation, he needs as many stacks as possible to live.

[uneven fjord]

v helpful wb new in vegeta?

[still grove]

Falls in the same category as the 7Ys basically