Ladders

[flint oar]

Repair most ladders in the maps and add new ones, all fully intact ladders could be used by humans to get on top of roofs. This would give humans an advantage with the added risk of being easier to snatch as Pteranodons. Maybe to make this more fair to some species who can't get up there normally like Spitters and maybe Bruisers either of the ideas below could work.

1. For Spitters, there could be more accessible vents that they could go through to get on to roofs. Maybe when Humans crouch they could get into these vents as well but it would be more a hiding place or a quick escape off of the roof as they wouldn't be able to go up the vents.

2. Some interiors could be added, as in hallways/stairways that lead to the roof instead of full on interiors. Bruisers could get into these alongside humans as an alternative way to the roof.

Ideally they'd both be added if humans are given access to ladders but it's not up to me. I just think it'd be cool as I can see a lot of uses for this along with a lot of unusable ladders. Really sorry if this is stupid

[brazen terrace]

Not a good idea

Pteras would not be a counter here, fat sightlines counter pterosaurs and you're suggesting a very fat sightline

[lone hatch]

Doesn't need it

[flint oar]

Sorry

[brazen terrace]

Conceptually it's cool

[lone hatch]

Ig it's a way to bring back OG's ladder mechanics but the maps rn are balanced without them

[flint oar]

Original PC had ladders?

[pliant turtle]

yes- on downpour and docks

[flint oar]

Hm, didn't know that

[lone hatch]

And I think forgotten outpost

[pliant turtle]

dont think so, wasnt really anywhere for them. I could look ig

[pliant turtle]

the one on docks let you climb up here, but was replaced with this ramp in extinction

[lone hatch]

There's lookout towers, right?

[pliant turtle]

well I mean theres still the one in the bunker area but its angled enough to just work as a ramp. Ladder volumes dont exist anymore

[lone hatch]

Bruiser and wheelchair friendly

[brazen terrace]

A ladder would also drop down on the downpour bridge after point 1 was captured

[flint oar]

Well, sorry for wasting your guys' time

[brazen terrace]

All good, it's still a cool idea.

[flint oar]

Nice

[pliant turtle]

this is where downpours was
dee I dislike you

[brazen terrace]

Am I crazy or was there also a sniper watchtower on original forgoutpost

[pliant turtle]

im downloading 1.3, lemme look

[brazen terrace]

NEW UPDATE LETS GOOOOOOO

[lone hatch]

It's kind of like a "cool on paper" idea but if you look into it a bit you'll start to pick out potential problems

[pliant turtle]

the update that killed the world

[brazen terrace]

I think it worked best on Downpour

[lone hatch]

I.E functional and new map balance problems

[pliant turtle]

downpours was good but the current alt route is just as good if not better

checking forgor

[lone hatch]

I think it's neat there but I think its use has been replaced by the hill

[brazen terrace]

for the record I may be crazy

[flint oar]

That litter reaction is a little harsh, don't you think?

[lone hatch]

The hill lets both teams get up from human spawn quickly and it's probably a little easier to set up

[pliant turtle]

ok so there is this one that kinda still exists in extinction, which is what I was meaning earlier

im looking for more but im sloooow

[lone hatch]

Starting to look more like attic steps

[flint oar]

Also if I'm being completely honest I was really only thinking about the roof in Extinction that has the "For a Better Tomorrow" sign on it on Docks

[pliant turtle]

ok these two inside the human base also had ladders

also brachisaurus!!

[flint oar]

Old PC looks strange

But cool

[pliant turtle]

Alpha OG was so pretty

[pliant turtle]

look at these sightlines though. Absolutely horrid. It would be awful in game

[pliant turtle]

sequel!

[flint oar]

I see what you mean

[lone hatch]

Plus a good chunk of the roster can't get up there

[pliant turtle]

mhm

[flint oar]

That's why I added the Hallway and Vents

[lone hatch]

But why

[pliant turtle]

the buildings are not built for that

[flint oar]

There are vents on the rooftop and every building has hallways

[pliant turtle]

theres no room for vents dinosaurs can fit into, and the buildings that dont have hallways are typically not configurable

[lone hatch]

Also there's no vent in the world except on like waterlogged (massive scale facilty) that will fit say, a cerato or carno

[pliant turtle]

dinosaurs also get really stuffy cameras in confined spaces. The vents on valley prove that

[flint oar]

The vents were for Spitters, and Raptors can already pounce into heaven. Flyers, it's in the name

[pliant turtle]

ok but theres nothing for them to hide behind. Theres no cover. It would never and will never work

[flint oar]

Btw I'm not trying to push my idea anymore. Just explaining my thought process

[lone hatch]

But this new feature is adding new map problems that would be ok if you never let humans access there

[pliant turtle]

yeah I figured, im just noting that unless a map is specifically made with that already in mind, like waterlogged was, it physically couldnt be implemented in good manner without completely reworking maps

major map reworks have already happened, so theres not gonna be more of that in extinctions/evolutions lifespan

[flint oar]

Alright

[brazen terrace]

YES

thats what i was referring to, i wasnt crazy

[pliant turtle]

youre crazy I went in and added them just for you to be happy

[brazen terrace]

oh

thank you then

[pliant turtle]

ye :)

[lone hatch]

Committed to the gas lighting