lunar rapids
I took one of the abandoned charts and fixed the issues with it. I also added lyrics, as well as alternate bass and lead which are following the synth line. I would love feedback to make sure it fits the standards, and if anyone has any better tones let me know lol thanks ❤️
nocturne fulcrum
Please put paths
calm hearth
You should remove the NoGuitar sections between the COUNT and when the notes actually start
For occasions like this, you can just let the COUNT extend all the way to when the notes begin. When you add FHPs and sections/phrases in between, it causes the note highway to be lit up pre-emptively for no real reason. Usually you want the note highway to start lighting up just before when the notes start.
(Lead, bass and rhythm paths need this changing)
Double check some of the notes with short sustains throughout all arrangements
If a sustain lasts less than a beat (the distance between 2 arrows) it's usually best to just omit the sustain.
The last sustain in this kind of riff for example would be better as a single note head
some sections/phrases are on the long side and could be split up
New breaks at measures 26 and 34 for example here would help split up the 2 longer sections here on the lead
Arrangement wise, I honestly would just remove the main lead path since it's so sparce and it is literally just a double of the rhythm path.
The Alt Lead for me is so much more enjoyable to play and is a complete path and I would rather have that as the main lead.
On the alt bass path, some fhps in the octave parts which need a little tweak - you want to move fhps when you actually move octave shape.
So you would want to move the fhp9 onto measure 23 since that's where the shape changes 
(if it was me, I'd personally transpose the octave shapes that are on strings 1 and 3 to be on strings 2 and 4 instead. I just hate octave shapes in drop tunings 
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So I'd personally play those parts more like so - again though, very much a personal preference thing more than anything. No push for you to change that if you don't want to.
the arpeggios here starting around measure 54 I would throw into handshapes maybe?
would end up looking like this in EOF
I think I would tweak the outro slightly to either make it go on for 2 more measures (so you have a full 4 measures of notes)
Or, cut it short at measure 90.
atm, it kind of just stops in the middle of a section and is a little awkward. I think I would probably opt to do the former. If you also pick that option, measure 90 should be marked as an Outro.
Lyric wise:
So like:
Oh baby, we save the moments
The good, the bad ones
Should be more like:
Oh baby
We save the moments
The good
The bad ones
Lines like:
We were nothing but close to the sky```
Could be:
We were nothing
But close to the sky```
Maybe try this tone out rather than the current clean tone you have for the lead.
A slightly clean/drive blend which I think sits a little nicer for some synth parts as opposed to a completely ''flat'' bass tone
(should be as simple as saving that into your desired location, probably the project folder for the chart is best > then in the Tone box in the DLCB, click the little + > Import from File > select that tone.xml file you just saved)
oh, random fhp change here on the alt lead path on measure 13 should be removed
likewise with random tone changes at the start (notoriously found in Ramen's old stuff 🤮 )
you should remove those
you can find all the tone changes in the chart here
you'd just click that first one in the list and click delete to remove
Then you'd go to almost the same place, but rather than List, you want to go to Names > then set the Clean tone as your default instead
(D) = default, currently the distortion tone is set as the default for some unbenowst reason (again probably not your fault and just a remnant of poor charting)
If your path doesn't have any tone changes at all (like the bass, rhythm paths for example) you can also just delete the tone changes currently set on those paths too > rather than defining the tone in EOF for those, you can just do it in the DLCB.
You probably get some kind of warning message currently when you try and save the EOF project for this too saying you need more than 1 tone change; in EOF and tone changes 0 = 1 (I hope you are following along and understand what I mean 
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lunar rapids
Thank you so much for the detailed feedback! I ended up working on this one with the Charter program rather than EOF. The NoGuitar sections between COUNT and the notes have been removed and short sustains have been culled.
Phrases were shortened on the alt lead. I had originally had that path as alt since the band does have 2 guitarists, but since they are identical paths, I took your advice and made the alt lead just lead. Thank you for the clean tone!
I added handshapes to the arpeggios, but I want to make sure you are not wanting the "arpeggio" shape with the purple container? I went ahead and shortened the ending riff at measure 90 and marked that as Outro, but I am curious why we would use that instead of just the END phrase there since I still have to add it anyway?
The octaves on the alt bass were awkward so I went with your preference and transposed them as well as FHP
Lyric phrases have been shortened and commas have been removed.
I removed tone changes from the beginning and added clean as the default for alt lead. I know if the tone changes on a note, there will be a popping sound, but how close can we have them? 1/128 or 1/64?
calm hearth
Handshapes over arpeggio notation 100% of the time 
Handshapes do pretty much the same thing as arpeggio, but just look cleaner in game. Ubisoft themselves also opted to stop using arpeggio notation a couple years deep into 2014 and moved to using handshapes too.
Tone changes, I usually do them 1/32 before the note 
Not sure how it works in Charter, but in EOF you can use shift + page up/page down to snap directly onto the notes > then ctrl + shift + page up/ page down to snap to the grid snap line directly before/ after the note.
lunar rapids
Much appreciated!
calm hearth
lunar rapids
oh, I did want to double check about the outro section vs the end section as well
calm hearth
END is a phrase and is what triggers the note highway to stop - that should usually be placed on after the final note on the track.
Kind of similar to how the COUNT works.
Outro is the section/phrase you'd use before the END phrase
So like measure 90 would be an Outro phrase/section > END phrase set on measure 94 (if I remember the chart structure correctly)
lunar rapids
ohh ok, so I have it labeled as post chorus, I could change that to outro and then end phrase after the final note is played
calm hearth
Yeye
You could keep it as a post chorus if you wish (the section/phrase names don't really matter that much)
As long as it kind of makes sense structurally with the song, that's fine
Like some people may call a post chorus a pre verse if it's earlier in the song and there's arguments both are right
lunar rapids
Thanks again 🙂
calm hearth
Share the updated version whenever it's ready and I'll give it one final pass
When it's good to go, i'll get round to transferring the current CF entry over to your account (saves having duplicate entries for the same song up)
You'll just have to update the entry when it's yours with the updated info
lunar rapids
after making the changes, upon validating I am now getting an error in DLCB for both main and alt bass
calm hearth
after making the changes, upon validating I am now getting an error in DLCB for ...
you'd want to change the tuning pitch in Charter to be 440
Then in the DLC Builder, right click the bass arrangements > apply low tuning fix
lunar rapids
Ok, test build with the low tuning fix!
nocturne fulcrum
@lunar rapids while i wont harp on this since dell decided to jump in here, paths need to be put in the tags, not just "test my chart"
i asked once and it wasnt addressed, next time it needs to be
calm hearth
ope 👀 just double check that little bridge part, a handful of them are marked as arpeggios in that last version you linked (I guess you were testing how each of them looked and forgot to swap them all to handshapes?)
(they were fine at the end at least and all marked as handshapes )
That was it though 
Just a reminder for when you get the final public version done:
I like to get people to update the DLC Key so it includes the version number at the end on the public version - just to help avoid any conflict with any other versions a chart may have.
so it'd end up being GGecneonV2 for example (you'll want to make v.2 since the current version up on CF is set at 1.1 )
Oh, more on me for not fixing the volume of the tone before hand - but I might knock that cleandrive down to like 28db instead maybe?
lunar rapids
i asked once and it wasnt addressed, next time it needs to be
Thank you for clarifying this, I didn't know if I should respond since there was already feedback happening. I will add the paths moving forward
lunar rapids
ope 👀 just double check that little bridge part, a handful of them are marked a...
Oops, good catch thank you! I have played through it again and made sure none of the handshapes were marked as arpeggio and lowered the volume of the cleandrive as well
calm hearth
ahh perfect was just about to mention something about a signature in the file name
lunar rapids
I think I forgot on my first chart lol
calm hearth
there is now an option for this in the DLCB config settings if you are interested
save you having to do it manually everytime now
lunar rapids
Thank you!
calm hearth
Alrighty, the CF entry should be under your name 🙂
I've added a little moderator note saying it's been taken over; feel free to amend/ remove however you see fit (some kind of note that it has been taken over I think is best to have)
Should just be a case of updating the version number, the song length, updating the DL links, adding at least a genre and a little note about the arrangements
https://ignition4.customsforge.com/cdlc/71900/edit