RedSail Corsairs

[hearty chasm]

could use more backwards thrust

this is such a solid ship though for piracy

[fossil pollen]

copy the way lpb works and you should be good

[full mauve]

tbh

i feel like this would just be a headache to defend

and just be a touristic zone for mercs to go in and raid/loot

we just dont have numbers to defend such a base and i lowkey do not like defending bases anyways, would rather prefer to be out there and do stuff

a station would be cool but idk i dont see the point of it and highly doubt you can defend anything from players with game's ai

not talking about fair fight btw people will just cheese it by grapple hooking inside crates and shit

and you just cant stop that without literally being a patrolling npc on the station 24/7

[hearty chasm]

i agree

i dont want a whole poi

[mild swallow]

Tbh, we should just stick with secret cove in camelot

[full mauve]

see how tsf starts acting after hour 4 for as example

[mild swallow]

And just truce with ussp larpers manning the station

[hearty chasm]

Camelot has so many rocky, asteroidy places where a pirate ship terminal would fit right in

[mild swallow]

Yeah

[full mauve]

just an additional unbreakable/unanchorable ship console somewhere or if only us could access and buy these ships from normal ship consoles

[mild swallow]

Also you have people doing sci and shit there

[full mauve]

that alone would be enough

[hearty chasm]

This Kazala.
Kazala was robbed.
Kazala complied, was polite, and helpful.
Kazala only had 20% of her frezon sold.
Kazala got her ship back in perfect state and kept making frezon for the rest of the shift

Be like Kazala.

[ashen crag]

hmm, im wondering what if i were to make a secret cove at camelot and once we grow in size Then make a pirate base? problem would be that it would get metagamed the instant they know about it so il have to make 3 variations each in a different spot or make it hard to get into requiring some ammount of dedication to get to the shipyard.

aka 4 to 5 active players each shift so theres always someone

or yk what, another alternative would be to turn the Dervish into a actual POI/carrier that is abile to raid ships While including the purchase of ships and later with LPC s drones

acting as a central Hub of operations

the downside of it would be that i would have to remap it, would limit ship size as its the biggest ship or i can map a little bit bigger ship that has more armour,guns

[mild swallow]

corrupt

imagine modified jupiter for piracy

like

or maybe just gigantic roid

[ashen crag]

jupiter isnt nimble enough imo

ROID

[mild swallow]

with thrusters

[ashen crag]

mmm

wait

[mild swallow]

got even better idea

gigantic roid with thrusters and stealth

[ashen crag]

radar markings would kill stealth

[mild swallow]

then dont add it

[mild swallow]

holy peak

[ashen crag]

by radar markings i meant the ones made by the guns,thrusters and gens

[mild swallow]

ahhh

its still great

like

[ashen crag]

thats why LPB gets found every round...

[mild swallow]

even with them visible do to the bug

it dont give out unknown and heat sig

so its greatly hidden

[ashen crag]

i might rename the unknown to ERROR once it gets close to a ship

but that would need coding

so ehhh

[mild swallow]

just name it ERROR and we will only use stealth or iff on

[ashen crag]

mmm

[hearty fern]

gives me classic pirate cove vibe

[rugged oracle]

that was fixed

long ago

[hearty chasm]

it would just get stolen bro...

[ashen crag]

mm

alright

camelot it is

[hearty chasm]

so like

we really are in a lose lose situation

if we have a secret cove on camelot

it will get metagamed

if we have a base

it will get portstriked

so really what are our options, its A) have people sometimes running around with our ships
or
B) not be able to spawn our ships at all

which way pirate man

[ashen crag]

A

[rain dawn]

turret that targets based off company?

[hearty chasm]

who the hell would code it tho

[ashen crag]

Not me

wait!

mines...

[hearty chasm]

not corrupt

mines...

[rain dawn]

there's either already a system for it OR it's hell

[hearty chasm]

MAL-404 would step on them

and gib us all

[rain dawn]

actually you could prolly do it based off the company given to IDs

[hearty chasm]

that would be awesome if the terminal was actually locked to the company chosen

[rain dawn]

afaik that'd be possible when rsc is actually in

[fossil pollen]

the secret cove could just be a shipyard console w/ maybe clothing/weapon vendors and then the rest of camelot already has amenities?

[hearty chasm]

nigel came in here and said he'd approve of the company being accepted

but it has yet to be

[rain dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

if it gets pr'd and actually put in hmu and i'll look at how turrets work

[full mauve]

again, imo we dont need a secret cove or anything

just add aditional opptions to normal expedition vendor that only whitelisted company members can buy

or an additional unbreakable console in camelot and ta-da

you guys thinking way too big for a few man company

[hearty chasm]

@solemn birch what do you think? where and how should we have our new shipyard terminal

for the pirate ships

maybe it could be on a POI other than camelot? The Pit or Tinnia's?

mainly we want to reduce it getting metagamed or griefed as much as possible even if its invincible

[rugged willow]

They already said that it wouldn't make any sense for PIRATE vessels to be sold from a normal shipyard vendor

[hearty chasm]

yeah obviously

what we're trying to discuss is where to put it so random nobodies don't mess with it so much or try to blow it up

[full mauve]

just say "monolith wills it" saar

there is pirate ship options on normal shipyard vendors because monolith willed it

[rugged willow]

There are not pirate vessels on normal shipyards.

There are shady company vessels from PB, but no company in right now is exclusively a piracy company

Just PMCs

[hearty chasm]

"The monolith used its techno-Agarthan bluespace powers to give its Chosen People, 5hr civilian expedslopper, pirate vessel with post-faction maldcore technologies."

Canonize please and thank you.

but no i actually agree

i want a

SEPARATE

shipyard

for pirate vessels

just need to figure out where the fuck to put it

[full mauve]

-# monolith wills it

[rugged willow]

The Monolith vaporized all Corsairs because the amount of ahelps the generated made it realize it'd rather have them reduced to atoms rather than deal with the mald

[hearty chasm]

HARDEST PART OF BEING A PIRATE ISNT THAT THE WHOLE SECTOR WANTS YOU DEAD

its that you get ahelped if you win...

[ashen crag]

[solemn birch]

Add it to a custom poi or something

Maybe share with hekataro separatists if they make it in

[hearty chasm]

that would be like putting bloods and crips in shared housing

but honestly might be necessary

IF we could have a iff cloaked base

that would be ideal

[hearty fern]

its have to be a hideout not place where we all love each other.

I think that hideout for highly ilegal fractions would be cool and beefs betwen them could be interesting as well.

or somthing

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/858381273042255903/886711884735197204/image0.gif

[ashen crag]

All the more incentive to make a roid base made out of multiple roids loosely glued together

1 roid for each illegal faction, with the central one acting as a playground for a bloodbath between the factions

[hearty fern]

DEATH PIT!!!

[ashen crag]

YES

But like im thinking

Slap a death arena in the middle to sort all the beef out or just have a shootout with your drunk mates, bar right next to it to enjoy the show and a tiny trade hub/sci near the death pit

There woudnt be anything stopping you from killing each other in the other portions of the base

The pit would be a more offitial way of killing each other, including chimera bloodsports or the hunger games made out of captured Medi- err prisorners!

[full mauve]

i mean, am down with ssharing with hekataro whatever

[ashen crag]

Same

Really good opportunities for RP imo

[echo wing]

Is this just gonna be ASR 2.0?

[mild swallow]

Tbh

Having secret, moving stealth roid shared with vox raiders would be funny

Tension would be insane

[hearty chasm]

thats irony yknow.. ex-commie station now a hub of capitalism

[hearty chasm]

@ashen crag

lets cash in

YOU GET TO REMAKE CAMELOT

[spare pendant]

news flash if i dont like ur mapping on camelot im just gonna remap it regardless
i plan to form it into less of a publicity station of USSP and more of a semi-derelict with obvious signs of violence

like an old normal station that had its springs blown out by the crew and the force that was on it withdrawn

but if thats the case there wont be much room for the machine i plan to make

[mortal wadi]

Real ones remember Camelot leaded by the rogues

[ashen crag]

we can both work on the same shi and somehow stick it together (aka take the good parts of each and combine it although ive never mapped a station before so it might be hard for me)

[spare pendant]

no thanks that would take too long lmao

you just map it and ask for pointers

idc

[ashen crag]

alr

[shadow kelp]

In all honesty

I don’t think I could really see this as a reliable company without whitelisting

However

I do think this could work as an another faction - like ADS and Asakim in a sort of sense

Having ghost based roles with special equipment that periodically show up in crews with their dedicated and special ships specifically for their goals

I feel like we want more threats in the sector overall.

Having pirates that are whitelisted means that there won’t be many unless it’s a coordinated round

But having an antag system leads them to being an active threat that isn’t exactly seen inside the expected gameplay loop that we have now

[hearty chasm]

We already talked with 2 other staff and basically just agreed it would be a whitelist company because of the obvious implications that comes with having a group of players specifically assigned to piracy

However this means our whole idea about the company would become obsolete and go down the drain, even the players who specifically wanted to engage in piracy would not have to wait for that ghostrole? Also, wouldn't that break the point of having civ v civ piracy rules if you just have pirate ghostroles?

I think a good middle ground would be to have a whitelist only JOB ROLE that would encompass all piracy-related companies

(Such as Heketaro and Corsairs)

Something like "Outlaw" that similar to PDV Vizier you'd have to whitelist for (maybe ... maybe name it Rogue )

And since we're already working on a POI for both of these piracy adjacent factions it would fit perfectly

You could even control the number of Outlaw players each round by modifying the jobrole

[mild swallow]

💀

Overregulating standard activity in a low rules sandbox server?

What next, no robbing people without captain or first mate?

Like

maybe whitelisted role for captains would be good, with access to syndicate uplink, round start tc, access to jobcomputer of the poi to limit or create more spawns etc

[hearty fern]

they are not syndicate

[mild swallow]

syndicate is dead

[echo wing]

not really low rules honestly and yeah there's no syndicate + having an uplink for them is a bad idea. Better just make it unique

besides

we have GV and Colonel, that already a MRP role that is high standard

if you want an Outlaw role meaning it's meant to be high standard RP and not just loot and kill

[mild swallow]

for some reason uplink still works so why to create more code when you can just give them syndi uplink and it will work same

[echo wing]

Lore wise, there's no more Syndicate only remnant of it and some of the remnant became PDV (read the lore).

Yes uplink works and contravend as well, but giving them syndicate uplink to pirates is weird since. It's pirate not syndicate.

IIRC Syndicate are meant to infiltrate and sabotage anyway, pirates are boarders and loud mouth yes?

[mild swallow]

it is low rules sandbox server

[spare pendant]

thats how companies should have been from the start imo

[mild swallow]

play frontier and compare

[spare pendant]

not some label at best

it should be alot more fleshed out for player creativity

[mild swallow]

i play a pirate on a daily basis and having them meant for "High stardard RP" is a tragedy

like

you cant pirate without having at least one ahelp per round

[hearty fern]

The better idea would be a pirate uplink or just custom one.

than syndicate

[mild swallow]

if someone will code it then yeah

whitelisted captains would be great

but not members

[hearty fern]

tbh so whats the whole point in the vouching system we have

[hearty chasm]

All it means is that you're trusted to not grief when trying to pirate, a LOT of players aren't capable or following common sense and escalation, why do you think our corpo server is vouch only? This isnt any different, we're still MRP but we'll finally have a proper role with more freedom to have our own base, etc

[spare pendant]

originally the concept was a mix of both WL role and normal company tag

One WL company role and a public company tag in the event that other players decide to play loyalist (fragbait)

[hearty chasm]

basically that doesnt mean we'd be expected to be HRP

[mild swallow]

server whitelist, not company whitelist

[hearty chasm]

Just to not be shitters

[hearty fern]

WL for roles and fractions is common on all kind of servers

[mild swallow]

they ment server whitelist

[hearty fern]

oh

but still role should be whitllisted

[spare pendant]

i dislike the concept of making pirates higher expectations of RP as its no different from playing any other role

its only different because its a direct antagonistic role

i could load in as TSF and play the role of a marine with like bare minimum roleplay requirements, why make pirates different

overall gameplay expectations should be raised not the singular role

[hearty chasm]

i mean it is because we directly target civilians. Not Rp expectations as much as gameplay expectations, you need to be able to escalate properly and not just frag civs ON SIGHT

[hearty fern]

People can still pirate without being in the pirate fraction. Pirating in fraction just means you are more trusted and you are not one time robber.

[mild swallow]

brother in christ, i was banned with NITRP Piracy reason for atacking people who atacked us first aka following escalation rules because i didnt told people that almost killed my boarding squad that i will kill them

it will be ticket hell if we will be held to that higher standard

[hearty chasm]

it would be the opposite

[spare pendant]

we already can with the current standards

making pirates higher standards means we get filtered ironically

[hearty chasm]

if you are a whitelisted pirate your word is more likely to be trusted

[spare pendant]

so

[hearty chasm]

than that of a random civ making

shitty accusations

[spare pendant]

why not just say

its for the inner circle

the standards between the two players wouldnt be any different

because the whitelists themselves arent the same

ones a company controlled WL

[hearty chasm]

its not for the higher circle but with the current rules expecting most players to follow piracy rules is just ticket hell

[spare pendant]

the others a server controlled

[hearty chasm]

again why RSC is vouch only

[mild swallow]

yeah, your right

[hearty chasm]

even when we do

we still sometimes get accused

of things we didnt do

[spare pendant]

but a WL isnt going to filter all your problems

its only going to cause said ticket hell

[hearty chasm]

not all of them no

but it is SO much easier to manage

youll have players who are trusted

doing the pirating

[spare pendant]

and the same people you add to the WL can easily just break a rule and get banned

it doesnt make admin work any simpler

[hearty chasm]

i think you're looking at it very negatively

whitelist bans happen

but i would argue

they happen much less often

[spare pendant]

no, im being realistic
im talking about what the WL is capable of, which isnt much
its mostly just to make sure you know the people playing it more personally

its not capable of gauging player quality

[hearty chasm]

because the people who fill in a whitelist usually are

1. more active players
2. know what the role means
3. know the rules to follow

otherwise they wouldnt have been accepted

[shadow kelp]

So PDV has all the syndicate gear

currently

[hearty chasm]

i dont agree with the uplink

[spare pendant]

and this isnt a garauntee

is my point

[shadow kelp]

syndicate uplink and PDV uplink overlap lol.

[spare pendant]

players can make WL apps and still end up bad players

its not reliable as a filter

so raising server standards is the best option

[hearty fern]

In my opinion pirate fraction should be whitelisted. I played on some servers and it's just the best way, even when normal mercs can rob also. I am the most important person in the world so my opinion Is finally. I'm going to sleep goodnight.

[spare pendant]

going the route of its own role makes it abit harder to manage tbh
you need to setup their own system like ads or asakim cuz theyre basically their own antags in this case

they wouldnt spawn on camelot bc theyre not normal mercs or civs

theyre deadset pirates that need their own point of spawn

[mild swallow]

i mean, your right, maybe custom uplink for captains would make more sense

[hearty chasm]

it literally decreases the chance of it happening, what is your point? a whitelist is better than a total lack of player quality testing

a WHITELIST CAN filter MOST but not all bad cases

[spare pendant]

also id like to say this now

we are pretty much the only two communities of company shit that have decided to go this far

this is unclaimed ground you are making

so yeah

its all new concepts

entirely

meaning we should expect people after us to use it as a system too in any case

so it should be semi-universal

[hearty chasm]

i mean we sort of know how it would go. the ASR for example

operated

VERY

similar to what we actually want

[echo wing]

RSC would be ASR 2.0 technically

[hearty fern]

Better to have something good that had more work puted into than shitty thing because someone is lazy ass and did it faster way.

[shadow kelp]

I can see a faction working like that if it had LIMITED roles

keyword on limited

we dont want an ASR situation as stated above

where its like a giant amount of people on the underdog team

[spare pendant]

my point is dont be too reliant on it
its hard to manage
i would know because i tried
you need a dedicated group who know the community and the players making the applications

[hearty chasm]

whats your take on it being whitelist only? necessary or not?

[hearty fern]

Ye make it wl role that's all it will be limited like that

[spare pendant]

you are accepting this lists

and you would be responsible

for player qualities

[mild swallow]

that why you have caps who would limit slots for its members only so you would have 5-6 people from one company

[shadow kelp]

All whitelisted and limited slots.

[hearty fern]

Limited slots 2

[shadow kelp]

It would be necessary for a faction and even more necessary for a company

[shadow kelp]

mhmm

we need to consider population

[echo wing]

Just a thought but hopefully they won't metagang and increase the number up to 10

[shadow kelp]

our population is all over the place

a majority of players do expeditions

and nothing else

[spare pendant]

its also a matter of there genuinely not being enough players who are interested in interacting with the concept of making a whitelist application for an entirely different part of the server

[echo wing]

Drone hunting, exped slop, pirating, 1/3 is factions, and a small few is MD

[spare pendant]

one they may never use

[shadow kelp]

The issue with pirating in its current state there is nobody willing to combat pirates.

Other changes need to be made prior to implementation

[mild swallow]

heavly depends, i remember getting swarmed almost all the time

[shadow kelp]

I suggested to the staff team of fixed topology and a bigger incentive on POIs

[mild swallow]

by validhunting mercs

[shadow kelp]

Yes then other cases you have nobody caring.

[mild swallow]

true

[shadow kelp]

And then everyone complains when a problem has gone out of hand

[hearty fern]

Imo pirates are not here only to combat but to give players thing to fear. Every time they leave the station they should be scared that's they will get robbed.

RP >>> Combat

[spare pendant]

i dont really like the idea of putting everyone on camelot/on station cuz it limits our options of equipment

what am i supposed to do

put all my faction equipment/special objectives on it

i could make a seperate POI for it

[near mural]

Ideally companies should be able to have their own tech trees and doohickeys locked behind selecting them in character creation so you don't need roles specifically to make players spawn with company-specific PDAs and other stuff

[spare pendant]

but then why put them on camelot

[shadow kelp]

A POI is being made

at least corrupt was.

[spare pendant]

elaborate

oh

that

thats jsut

camelot 2

[shadow kelp]

A black market station

[spare pendant]

electric boogaloo

[shadow kelp]

we dont want

indivdual stations for each company

[echo wing]

Can I suggest a 1.25x cargo sell there? lmao

[shadow kelp]

there would be like 2 million of them

[shadow kelp]

no.....

[echo wing]

sad

1x?

[near mural]

Also I've heard that USSP might be being removed or something is that true

[mild swallow]

from what i remember black market station can host like 5 crime companies rn

[echo wing]

So that people can get robbed

[shadow kelp]

itd be probably less to stop people from vanishing to the invisible station

raaargh

[spare pendant]

i think ur putting a bar too low to let players exceed it
we CANT make good content if it isnt even allowed to begin with

[shadow kelp]

its already removed

lol

[echo wing]

USSP companies is removed?

[shadow kelp]

not my call

LOL

[near mural]

Like the company itself

[spare pendant]

forcing everyone on a single POI would imply we arent allowed to make new POIs for specific purposes

[shadow kelp]

no

its not removed

[spare pendant]

which is

stupid

[shadow kelp]

That simply isnt my call

[spare pendant]

i know

[echo wing]

making your own POI is too much honestly

[spare pendant]

its just my slice

[near mural]

Awesome !

[shadow kelp]

USSP tech will be removed from the faction tree and turned into company tech

simple.

[spare pendant]

the thing is you have no idea what its purpose is for

your immediate thought is a useless point of interest with no value for the larger playerbase

[shadow kelp]

Then make a proposal

for it

[spare pendant]

i am going to if i ever finish it

passion project moment

[echo wing]

Why not a capital ship itself?

it's more viable and well defended

[spare pendant]

yes because we 100% want a fuckton of capital ships

very entertaining and stuff

then we literally wouldnt be able to make stuff only POIs can provide

[shadow kelp]

Just make a company capital ship.

Not the size of 10 suns

One thats an LPC

thats limited

by 1

[spare pendant]

objectives, focal points, etc

a capitals a giant target at best

they cant do much except form larp environments

[shadow kelp]

make players work for their company capital if they wish for one.

[spare pendant]

obv

everyone assumes "im gonna give my company X" that its for free

smh

im no chud!!!!!

[near mural]

"My company's fighter ship will have 8 cerberii jacked into the system, plastitanium hull and 3 ADS weapons as a treat." 🔥✍️

[full mauve]

we getting full automatic rpgs wdym

[spare pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-gif-12253442062695531197

[mild swallow]

Finaly good weapon for killing DoC thinking that safezone will save him (with bombing most of md as side efect fr fr)

[fast fossil]

Literally just ASR lmao

[shadow kelp]

not round start is what i meant when i said that.

asakim and ads =/= faction in a sense

[ashen crag]

I am slowly going trough the mapping hell of the POI but i might have to make a bounty for custom spawns,sprites and shipyard consoles to make it work

[spare pendant]

thats just called antag

[spare pendant]

not really

cuz ASR were considered a major gameplay loop whereas stuff like ADS are less of that and more of what a shuttle spawn is on normal station forks

its just a midround ghost role

[mystic fable]

add a thing to ship company/faction alignment tag that says "Caution" or "Danger"

[full mauve]

i like this

[hearty chasm]

I like this too

[ember trail]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rugged willow]

Helghast looking armor are peakium and I'll hear nothing to the contrary

[ember trail]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rugged willow]

Jinroh is rule of cool

If we were going to be practical we wouldn't have the evil pirate faction look like evil gas mask guys

[hearty chasm]

so.. who's the company approver again ..

[near mural]

Herr Fluffenheimer

Everyone's getting packed into a single DLC and released on the same day from eternal PR helltorture

[full mauve]

monolith antag dlc real

[mystic fable]

fluff is getting a full expansion pass gift wrapped under his front door

he better merge ts 🙏

[hearty chasm]

Hi. We are doing a pirate raid rally today sometime after <t:1770235212:t>.

DM me to join.

[next smelt]

My Mazianni inspired character could fit pretty well into this maybe

[hearty chasm]

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

[hearty chasm]

who do you play again? if you still want to join i could vouch for you

[next smelt]

I don't play them very often but I mainly play Ann Muir currently

My other character I mean

[hearty chasm]

ohh ann muir from pdv?

you're robust enough

[next smelt]

Mhm

[hearty chasm]

ill send an invite

[next smelt]

Thanks, been interested in giving pirate stuff a go

[shadow kelp]

@hearty chasm after internal discussion regarding this company we have concluded that this company will be approved.

[hearty chasm]

FUCK YEAHHHH

[full mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-javier-bardem-no-country-for-old-men-slow-motion-gif-15061787

[hearty chasm]

The lore has had a slight rewrite.

[mint veldt]

the opps are the real deal now...

Congrats. 👏

https://giphy.com/gifs/xbox-game-xbox-series-x-s-JLmWUeHaIXThddnKhW

[mild swallow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991913476828176396/1389462040216735764/attachment.gif

[ashen crag]

https://tenor.com/view/byson-yes-gif-21730475

[vague axle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[hearty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26560971

[ashen crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ludacris-stomp-af1-air-force1-big-foot-gif-16260191

[solid cloud]

me when reshaped starsector pirate flag

[abstract pewter]

@hearty chasm @ashen crag do you guys fw a white skull for the hardsuit

it'll be mainly dark and red with hints of very dried out green, I can maky it stand out better if it's white.

[spare pendant]

mfw theres already a hardsuit ingame with a normal skull on it

the suits just buns and no one wants it

so it takes up useless file space

[abstract pewter]

there is ?

also @hearty chasm @ashen crag

[spare pendant]

that dead faction about being america but in space

they added like a suit and then the entire group vanished as they usually do

[abstract pewter]

good to note to nuke later

k final result I'll hand the file soonish for corrupt to PR like the good worker he is

The little trail behind the helmet is meant to be some sort of message written on it, something like "corsairs roolz" or "property of corsairs", idfk up to you guys.

theere you go.

[rugged willow]

Welcome back Elite Pirate Hardsuit

[hearty chasm]

IM GONNA... HNNG...

[ashen crag]

[shadow kelp]

gang...

PR this company and manage a whitelist before you roleplay as them

administrative issues have been already caught up and this got approved a day ago

[abstract pewter]

yowies

isn't the point of minor factions/companies to get traction before they get created to prove there's a decen enough community to warrant a special group ?

[shadow kelp]

this company is a whitelisted company

what im saying is players should be whitelisted prior to roleplaying as it

[abstract pewter]

Oh okay, yeah

that makes total sense

[shadow kelp]

yep

[abstract pewter]

separate whitelist or general whitelist ?

[shadow kelp]

we dont know who's whitelisted and isnt

[shadow kelp]

its seperate

so

[abstract pewter]

*nods

[shadow kelp]

we have a file for companies which

[abstract pewter]

yeah ik like viper

[shadow kelp]

they put their usernames down in a PR and it adds them

mhmm

[abstract pewter]

corruuuuupt

[ashen crag]

walk me trough it, i wana try to PR that

[ashen crag]

yes me lord

[shadow kelp]

so

i think you're gonna have to reverse engineeer it

so basically

[abstract pewter]

check company.yml, companies.yml & company.ftl & companies.ftl

[shadow kelp]

look at like Viper Group

[abstract pewter]

it's all english

[shadow kelp]

yeah

[abstract pewter]

just reverse engineer and copy paste

[shadow kelp]

^^

[abstract pewter]

as for textures there's a logo in the _mono texture folder which needs to be 500x500

the hardsuit I'll leave it to you it's all in game code and easy to copy paste

[ashen crag]

watch me fuck it all up somehow

[abstract pewter]

dw I'll review the PR

I've done this before

Just need ya get a hang of it

[ashen crag]

[ashen crag]

Whats the uhh, path to the company files

[abstract pewter]

For the sake of you learning how to learn more down the line, I won't tell you the answer directly.

check PRs which do the same thing you're trying to do

or just CTRL+F in the Prototypes/_Mono

[ashen crag]

alright, guess im reverse engineering all of it solo

learning it the hard way

[abstract pewter]

Yep

trust me, it's not that hard

if you do have any questions about yml code, that I'll answer though.

[ashen crag]

okay

[ashen crag]

okay, another question: does the logo have to be exactly 500X500 pixels?

or is it higher/lower than 500X500

[abstract pewter]

500x500 preferred

all the logos are 500x500 and knowing how bad UI code is it's likely better to do 500x500

[ashen crag]

mm okay

@abstract pewter set this to false or keep it that way?

literally the last question rn

or yk what

il keep it that way and shut up/stop pinging you

[abstract pewter]

you can likely just remove the "disabled" tag entirely

viper company has it because it's a company we removed from the selection screen

also you'll need to change the description and make one in the .ftl folder

[ashen crag]

yee

working on it

[near mural]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HCIasvVWoAA8VKQ.webp

[ashen crag]

@abstract pewter it is done https://github.com/Monolith-Station/Monolith/pull/3395

[abstract pewter]

peep the review boy

[hearty chasm]

for now, should i direct all my members to not mention RSC until it is merged? or PRd?

[hearty chasm]

The RedSail Corsairs, or RSC, are a dangerous and influential group of pirates and brigands, who are publicly known to engage in illegal and violent activities against civilians, officials, and military personnel alike. Their source of income and specialization is hijacking, cargo theft, hostage-taking, and armed robbery. They are openly marked by Colossus Central as a criminal organization. The group follows in the footsteps of John Rowdy "The Bastard" Senior, responsible for first bringing piracy to Colossus. As a whole, the Corsairs function as a union between freebooting raiders of all walks of life who have sworn loyalty to each other.

[hearty chasm]

Ok note to any staff members. There seems to be players that aren't in our actual ranks claiming to be RSC and then being shitters. So until our PR and whitelist is done, assume that everyone claiming to be RSC isn't us. I already told my members to avoid mentioning RSC ingame until the whitelist is merged.

@solid cloud

(im pinging you because you're the only admin who wont tear my head off if i do

Just pass the word along or something

[solid cloud]

gotcha

[rustic quiver]

i'm going to put forward a suggestion rename to "Red-Sail Corsairs". Red is describing the sails.

[solid cloud]

akshually it's because John Redsail founded them and brought pirates to Colossus.

[rustic quiver]

Then it would be Redsail, not RedSail. It burns my brain just looking at the name is all

[solid cloud]

john RedSail

comes from John Red and John Sail

that's why

[rustic quiver]

I mean, I get it

it just would merge into Redsail

Or it would be Red-Sail more accurately, as it is the merging of two last names

[hearty chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-understanding-understandable-listening-he's-right-gif-8747338278130277175

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854822650885963818/1454495835273297920/togif.gif

[rustic quiver]

bahh

just burns my brain looking at it put into an incorrect format

[abstract pewter]

I am sorry to say but John Redsail was taken out to the backrooms and found dead with seven casings of empty .50 anti reality caliber

[rustic quiver]

did they have any last words?

[abstract pewter]

yes, they did

"I'm ahelping for RDM"

[rustic quiver]

funny as hell

what about Red. Sail. Corsairs.

They. Are. Corsairs. With. Red. Sails.

[signal monolith]

I like it 👍

[rustic quiver]

looks really good

[abstract pewter]

Btw @ashen crag pirate King you planning to add the hardsuit in game ?

[ashen crag]

Prolly yea, gotta finish a MAWC ship for heva

[abstract pewter]

No problem

[rare crater]

redsails is real... *gulps

[ashen crag]

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-6942857530243279431

[rare crater]

need to finish my MAWC so theres pirates that steal your tech, and then pirates stealing the tech from the pirates that stole your tech

[ashen crag]

Im going to undo some of the nerfs (eather fully or partially) after the scallywag becomes private

Its literally going to be a giant KOS flag for any metagrudgers,TSF and any pirate hunter

[rare crater]

wondering how a typical MAWC and RSC encounter would go, since MAWC sells weapons to people (forcefully)

[ashen crag]

Not well

For both of us

[solid cloud]

still subject to escal

chud

[rare crater]

"Hey, you, you like killing people right? Buy this gun!"
"Nah I got enough"
"Did I say you could have a choice?"
500 ships die in brutal pirate warfare

[ashen crag]

Ik bro

These guys are actively hunting us

With more

[solid cloud]

geli 751

[solid cloud]

wherr from

[ashen crag]

Some of them broke escal, tried to C4 our ships (dont know exactly who from the list)

[ashen crag]

Our discord server

[ashen crag]

This is from ilya

[full mauve]

me sail is red and me treasure manyy, coarse land hate me but i got the sea, future darker than a whale's bellyyyy, yo hoo yo hoo hoooo

[abstract pewter]

If you want to make ships that do not exactly fit the new guidelines, feel free to create custom versions of ship mounts namely

Also giving them a hacked up pirate vibe possibly.

TL:DR no tarnyx and ballistic focus !!

[ashen crag]

Yee we have that in the doctorine

High use of heavy ballistics with light E lasers/EMP mixed in

[abstract pewter]

Laser options should be EMP only

In my eyes

For me pirate group would be using low tech stuff

One that doesn't make stuff and steals ofc

[mild swallow]

nigel sayed that you can kos known threats

for example pirate running with iff on

or ship of the pirate company

[solid cloud]

huh neat

[abstract pewter]

One say rules will be good

[mild swallow]

not neat when some shitters run nitrp ame suicide runs using baegs

and its allowed within the rules

[solid cloud]

suicide ships fall under the Rule 1 case

[mild swallow]

they not because that player didnt got banned with that reason by nigel

[hearty chasm]

i did not approve any KOS orders
even if chuds decide to noescal you, dont steep down to their level

you'll just get banned alongside them

and also yes, known pirates are KOS

solution: run iff off bro

[abstract pewter]

Based

[ashen crag]

alr

[rain dawn]

fake gelli wowww

[ripe pier]

@upbeat belfry do you care about this kind of metacomming?

[ashen crag]

i think that if its not directly during PVP then its fine

[hearty chasm]

i can confirm that this wasnt during pvp or during a match, it was a list someone compiled of people who had "hunted us" but i dont condone metagrudging them back

[ripe pier]

oh ok 👍

[hearty chasm]

when i say hunted us i mean they, nrp attacked

[fossil pollen]

isn't that what you wanted though as part of the deal, being a KOS faction

[rugged willow]

Is their IFF tag in?

If so that's what they asked for

[solid cloud]

we need tonmake company specific roles

so you know that guy is KoS

[hearty fern]

To my knowledge, before fraction was accepted.

[hearty chasm]

yes when this happened we werent merged yet

now we are tho so if you see our iff i assume its ok to frag on sight?

thats the hypothetical staff gave us

idk if its been written as a rule

but, im ok with this cause you'll never see our IFF. unless we want you to

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-stare-gif-21084269

[ripe pier]

https://discord.com/channels/1329292619834069034/1480654795332260072

awaiting clarification......

[rugged willow]

See pirate IFF. It's on sight
See unknown IFF. Assume it's pirates and wait for them to strike their colors/make a demand. Then shoot them

[ripe pier]

nigel regretting their life choices seeing 9 questions in one post

[hearty chasm]

this is valid to escal i believe so yes

[rugged willow]

Question is will the RSC actually do the pirate thing and actually strike their colors?

[hearty chasm]

we should thatd be cool

[rugged willow]

You do know the historical reason for the act, yes?

[solid cloud]

strike what

[hearty chasm]

i know

the black flag

duh

[rugged willow]

QRD pirate history.
Back in the days of piracy, there wasn't really a way to identify vessels aside from flying their flags. So what pirates would do is fly the flag of a different nation or have no flags, so you wouldn't be to tell who they are (IFF off)
when they were close enough to another ship they would raise the black flag (strike their colors) to signal to the other vessel they're pirates. The reason for doing so is that you would see, "oh there's pirates right on top of us, we should surrender"

[hearty chasm]

Pirates would raise a black flag to signal that they would show mercy if the target surrendered

yep

[rugged willow]

Because not surrendering and trying to run/fight back usually resulted in EVERYONE'S death

[solid cloud]

nezt

[rugged willow]

So if we can have that same sort of mentality in Monolith

[hearty chasm]

just as we do, its a shame they dont surrender very often. we take only a slice when people comply

[rugged willow]

Seeing a ship flash it's IFF as RSC, means you should surrender- they're giving you the option to

[hearty chasm]

everyone thinks they can take us on, but they end up losing it all

yepp

smart guys negotiate their way out

[solid cloud]

also i feel like major factions

[rugged willow]

I'll just respawn at CC, they have my DNA imprint

[solid cloud]

woild like to have a. play

like privateers

[hearty chasm]

🥹

[solid cloud]

or corsairs for gire

or just kill y’all

[hearty chasm]

we are open to paid work

pdv or tsf could just contact us and for the right price we'll deal with traders of the enemy faction

or even straight up attack the faction ships

[upbeat belfry]

Metagrudging is fine. But they still require escalation.

[ripe pier]

i thought that was shared during an active round

turns out it wasnt

[upbeat belfry]

didnt say this

[upbeat belfry]

only this

[mild swallow]

Sorry, Ilya sayed that

[signal monolith]

How much you guys going for?

[hearty fern]

Two bananas and a hug.

[full mauve]

hot latina goth gfs

[mild swallow]

Cut md in half roundstart

[distant pebble]

Grips

[hearty fern]

Oh no... Evil bounty placer

[hearty chasm]

HANDS OFF ME SHIP SURGEON MATEY.

[distant pebble]

The humble mail carrier on their way with mail that most definitely contains a set of c20rs and a cake

[glad rivet]

Best company.

[hearty chasm]

any experience with us?

[glad rivet]

Had chance to do some work in pair with Tiril. Good fella!

We had boarded some ships together. It was fun, till my game exploded and had to leave the shift sadly.

[hearty fern]

i remebemeber corectly that was you?

[distant pebble]

Yes.

Different place but yes.

[hearty fern]

Fun fact still no one did it

[distant pebble]

Yeah they were more focused on restraining you rather than doing it pfffff

"The bounty is real?"
"yep"
Shootout starts

[ashen crag]

im getting that 150K

100%

[hearty fern]

If @distant pebble will make that bounty again. You can try >:3

[ashen crag]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[distant pebble]

In mono? Probably not going to happen, my mail carrier has less than 150k

Relying on Overseers for pay is pain

[hearty fern]

Awwww

[hearty chasm]

*You enter John Rowdy Sr.'s grand Pirate hall. he sits on a throne of skulls and gold and holds a giant mug of grog. on each side of his throne is a twink mothservant swinging a big fan

[ashen crag]

i think i know how i will map our part of commielot now

thank you for the suggestion

[rugged willow]

I call him cringe and laugh at his small throne, he should've used bigger skulls

[hearty chasm]

sorry these are the skulls you get when your main victims are medics and exped sloppers

small heads..

[rugged willow]

hard to get good skulls these days when it's all resomi

[glad rivet]

Why is this not an ingame company!!

[mystic fable]

it is, its whitelisted

as in, only specific people can play it, like Viper Group and uhh... was it CSP?

[rugged willow]

Just viper

[solid cloud]

tf is CSP

[rain dawn]

cerberus surplus provisionaries

stupid newmin

[solid cloud]

how tf i never heard of em

[rain dawn]

old company

[mystic fable]

there was another one

[vague axle]

They've been setting up pdv mart alot lately

[spare pendant]

The admin is gaslighting

Csp is wl too

Its just dead asf

I still havent gotten around to reworking it

[mystic fable]

nah i think okto just genuinely forgot because csp is dead

[spare pendant]

[mystic fable]

i aint seen a single one of yall

[spare pendant]

Yeah real

Apparently ed head is playing it still

And playing around with pdv as if it were still asr and we ran deals

I just need to make the lore fit after so many retcons

The niche of shady resident evil type trader is still mine and mine alone

I shall nourish when i have the time

Oh yeah the servers still up

Just dead ash

[rain dawn]

i guessed the wrong twink moth 😔

[mystic fable]

snuggling is gay, true MEN oil eachother up after a long hard day of work as they disrobe from their bulky hardsuits glistening with sweat in their locker room

[abstract pewter]

So that's why there only one bed on RSC ships

[hearty fern]

ciężkie czasy legionera 🥺

[mystic fable]

raz dwa trzy

[full mauve]

wrestling too

do not forget wrestling

what are you doing wasting all that oil for

[mystic fable]

we gorlexians did soooooo much wrestlign

we'd crank hog and wrestle all night

[hearty chasm]

rsc are inclusive we accept bears and twinks

all are welcome to oil up just NO GIRLS ALLOWED

[vague axle]

https://tenor.com/view/space-king-warhammer-no-girls-allowed-40k-captain-gif-11039182067918945112

BTW THIS IS A JOKE GIRLS ARE VERY ALLOWED

[hearty fern]

girls are not invited for oiled up snuggles tho.

[ashen crag]

why tf are were about oiling up vro..

[hearty chasm]

Orders are orders..

how do you think we escape tsf and sec so easily

we're slippery because of the oil

[ashen crag]

actually

good point

i wish we had oil stains rn

[mild swallow]

you dont oil up your gygax?

[ashen crag]

[mild swallow]

like

it has many moving parts

[hearty fern]

because oiled up mens are hot af?

[mild swallow]

they can get stuck if you dont oil them

not even talking about heat generated by them grinding on each other

i need to make baby driver but fighter pilot type of char

[vague axle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-going-to-stop-you-right-there-stop-shut-up-hush-arguing-gif-13476334

Guys we want the company to stay yes?

[hearty chasm]

stay oiled?

yes?

[spare pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-korea-korean-terminid-gif-10841250531553711635

[solid cloud]

[mint veldt]

I'm out.

[hearty fern]

Yes

tho i think that oil and fur ain't the best connection

So you can stay oiled up, and I can look.

[hearty chasm]

[hearty fern]

[fossil pollen]

erm that was unfortunate

[ashen crag]

send help

RSC is becoming a hugbox

[near mural]

some kind of assembly is required.

Flay the moths.

[fossil pollen]

can't do much against an ADS Andromeda to be fair

[mild swallow]

its just moffic

its RSC is hugbox im prepatch ipc that instakills with hugs

fr fr

[abstract pewter]

Only one way to fix this

remove RSC, make a minor faction that's just one role called "pirates", they spawn on like three shitbricks POI with a bunch of scrap ships & retroffited hackjobs available

and peopl with said roles are outlawed in every way possible but get to abide to less rules

[ashen crag]

speedmerge this NOW!!

[rare crater]

we'll name it something cool but corny like "Ashen League Republic" and they'll have their own cool radio comm and faction tag

[fast fossil]

I never understood that about the ASR. Hmm yes my pirate/insurgents are actually a republic! We vote for our representatives!

[abstract pewter]

We already did with the local insurgency

It's time to go full bloodthirsty profiteers, I say.

Where there's chaos there's profit to steal from bloody hands & blasted hulls.

[rare crater]

we're actually freedom fighters (read: vicious terrorists and pirates) against TSF tyranny!

[fossil pollen]

[abstract pewter]

lmao

[fossil pollen]

do you revive and then pirate them

[hearty chasm]

HAHAAAAA

[stiff mural]

How can this be, they've been around for less than a month

[abstract pewter]

the private discord server

[hearty chasm]

look...

its just 2 guys being silly..

the state of rsc

meanwhile ingame: "yeah we made this crew chop their captain's legs off if they wanted to survive"

real story btw 🥹

[fossil pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/8ballcat-catboy-petting-gif-3570089946320755717

[mystic fable]

RSC cuck chair when..?

[ashen crag]

yes

[hearty fern]

"you can have two options, eathier you snuggle with me. Or I'll cut of your hands so you won't be able to hug anyone ever again."

[hearty fern]

RSC
Rough
Snuggling
Corsairs

[vague axle]

Said crew decided to slit her own throat and we still let them go 😇

YARGHHHH HRP

[hearty fern]

Sorry I don't know what do you mean.

[solid cloud]

snuggie wuggies

[mild swallow]

New demand copypasta goes hard

[hearty fern]

which one?

[mild swallow]

That one @hearty fern

[hearty fern]

we have two now then x3

[hearty chasm]

This is AI i never said this.

[proven lichen]

Whoever Red the reptilian is, that was pretty fun earlier at PDV when I handed you a plot-twist in the middle of your deal with PDV and almost ended up selling you to TSF, claiming your bounty and loot.

I was FATE-108. I'm actually surprised that PDV didn't agree, it was a great deal for them.

[vague axle]

I think that was part of viper group?

El red or something

[mint veldt]

yeah that'd be the viper group

[mild swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480074657267978290/1484402376520503326/image.png?ex=69be18f1&is=69bcc771&hm=4429f877a44d2db89e2e898d4d985df5b60a5796435f6fb852dbe089912a9dbb&

From rsc discord

[proven lichen]

Yep, it was pretty funny. FATE-108 is a character with a strange skewed sense of "morality". Even though he attempted to backstab Red, he still cooperated with him later.

[fossil pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309994750606184552/1328483897461309601/straightjorkinit.gif

[hearty fern]

we lost, but on the other hand we defeted one person

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340871129476366387/1341546018403254393/attachment.gif

[fossil pollen]

who was defeated and how did you get a picture of what my body looks like

[hearty fern]

accualy no one was defeted

he is back

[full mauve]

hero is back

[solemn birch]

ok just to clarify I have no intention of rewriting RSC lore

I don’t know where people came up with it (seems like it was just a rumor started by fangirliris)

@hearty chasm

Existing companies will be put under some review depending on popularity/amount of content they have but I doubt RSC will face much of that, right now my only concern is thematic similarities to VG

[hearty chasm]

I KNOW HAGAAHAHDAAAA

bro got me good

[hearty chasm]

yeah i also dislike the similarities with vg, its mainly the color theme but thematically we couldn't be further apart, they're an organized merc corp (although shady), while we are just a warband using shitty gear and ships

i was thinking about switching our color schemes from red to rust

rust being way more aligned with the type of gear we'd carry

examples

boarder, elite pilot, crewhand

[solemn birch]

Yeah that works better for distinction imo

[hearty chasm]

AR, elite AR, SMG, LMG, rotary 4 gauge

[hearty chasm]

yeh

we'd just have to color shift the logo a little

if you wanna recommend a specific color tone id welcome it

and we can implement it on our iff asap

[solemn birch]

I can’t think of anything specific right now

[hearty chasm]

nah i mean like a hex code

the issue with rust colors is i find it can be hard to make them pop out like q primary color

[solemn birch]

yeah

true

Light brownish orange

[near mural]

are there similarities though ?

[solemn birch]

Mostly color scheme

[near mural]

that seems fine though

red IFF shouldn't be that big of a deal or any other companies in the future that would have conflicting colors

[hearty chasm]

for my own aesthetic preferences i also want to switch, red is hardly an original company color currently

too many

[near mural]

fair

[hearty chasm]

plus rust communicates our theme better

scrap Hounds

[solemn birch]

While you two are here, this isn’t in effect but maintainers are going to be talking about company guidelines in our next meeting

Current draft of guidelines, again nothing final or enforced but something to think about

[hearty chasm]

ill look into this when out of work

but thnx 4 letting me know

[solemn birch]

Of course

[near mural]

yeah i saw

[dark swan]

peakness

[solemn birch]

Main things that might be of concern with future guidelines include unique/gimmickyness of equipment and research placement

Nothing really major

But still, good to just have it on your radar

[nova sky]

Is the mono version of a Technical a beag with a charon strapped on?

Want to make the most clapped out shit box possible

[hearty chasm]

Yes, but i don't think they'd let you put a charon on it

[echo wing]

Isn't this Menace asset lmao

[hearty chasm]

yeah we're using them as inspiration

[echo wing]

Not bad honestly

You should use their palette too tho

[hearty chasm]

we plan on it

changing from red to rust

[hearty chasm]

fucking whatever i give up m8

just fuck me up

i also realized i'd have to change the faction name

uhh.. Rustsail Corsairs

I guess thats fine

ill think mor about it

later

[warped condor]

No u don't

Rust can be red u know

[ember trail]

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[rare crater]

Viper group is predominantly red

[rare crater]

doesnt have the same ring to it, should stay redsail

rust is red

[fast fossil]

They’re making surface level comparisons

We are functionally different with a slightly similar aesthetic

[ashen crag]

Keep the reds, give the logo a rusty look

[fast fossil]

Sure we use red but it still looks distinct from the RSC stuff

RSC:

[rare crater]

RSC red is much more dulled out and mixed with colder undertones than the vibrant red of VG

[fast fossil]

Yeah I don’t see an issue here

[hearty chasm]

if anything we might go a burgundy shade

[abstract pewter]

Thexsuit on the right isn't RSC it's a frontier assets of pretty poor quality

[abstract pewter]

Dried blood kinda mood ?

[hearty chasm]

yeah somewhat

[abstract pewter]

Pretty nice.

[full mauve]

yea i guess it was my fault, i dont know, i was shitposting, didnt thought people would take it for real

and i thought atomized was shitposting too still

[hearty chasm]

hi, so can we still PR this?

i want it as a roundstart alt option to regular WL suit

[abstract pewter]

You can use the texture free-lance
albeit if I remember Fluffen's word right pure reskins should be restricted

@solemn birch ?

[hearty chasm]

texture-free? lance?

what?

[abstract pewter]

Freely

Autocorrect sucking balls

[solemn birch]

Avoid reskins of equipment that is statistically identical yes

[abstract pewter]

What about making WL hardsuit useable by a spray painter to recolor it

[hearty chasm]

damn.. this shi is useless now

well thanks anyway @abstract pewter

[solemn birch]

You can have like one or two reskins but faction equipment should have unique gimmicks/things that set them apart

[abstract pewter]

What kind of extras can a pirate rag tag put ? They just steal and repaint shit they steal in red

[solemn birch]

Different shooting styles, unique ammo type weapons, craftable pirate shipguns…

As for equipment it can be armor with weaker stats but two plates, unique protection stats, etc

Breaching tools and cool effect grenades

[abstract pewter]

@hearty chasm

Here your answer

Accessibility wise ?

[solemn birch]

RSC seems more scrappy so maybe go into that with more scrap/makeshift/junky theme gear

Make it take resources only printable from research

[ashen crag]

i got the perfect sprite

gimmie a sec

i gotta pull it out of my prison pocket

[solemn birch]

These are all just ideas, not required, but it should give a sense of what I mean

[ashen crag]

here

what do you think

[abstract pewter]

Them being pirates only make it more logic they steal shit and repaint them

Although ngl we can just say go with how starsector does it

"You steal shit and remove safety overrides"

[solemn birch]

uh yeah steal TSF or PDV tech in-game

for their original self-made tech they need to be original

[rain dawn]

unique ammo types

https://tenor.com/view/choking-gif-18241023091515446173

[ashen crag]

@solemn birch But still, what are your thouts on this sprite

[solemn birch]

Not like their own brand, it can be like a converted lecter or Annie or whatever if that’s what you want but it should be functionally different

[abstract pewter]

This thought process only applies for thing like well visible clothing (hardsuits) and ships but:

• Brand identity can help a lot make it clear who you're interacting with
• It doesn't cost anything to have, as long as it's restricted to the group it belongs to by default

For things like guns that are purely for fighting and who's sprite doesn't need a full on reskin, I agree.
I do think that pirates can get a lot of entity from just repainting stolen ships or apparels in their own color

[solemn birch]

Yes that’s why I said it’s okay to have a few reskins

Companies should have unique mechanics tied to them though

[abstract pewter]

ofc

Why my thought process for visual things like hardsuits is fine to have repainted versions for RSC, becuse it fits them. They must be restricted to the organisation though

@hearty chasm big TL:DR is for very visual thing that help show you belong to the pirate gang (hardsuit, handled banner or something) it's fine to have a reskin of an existing sprite (like the one you were asking for). They must HOWEVER be restricted to the gang members through regular means to obtain.

If someone who isn't WL'ed for the group was to get it, it would be because they got it from a gang member one way or the other.

This is pretty unique to you guys since your group isn't a manufacturing organisation of any kind

[hearty chasm]

so should it be a research thing or what

i mean there is like no code that protects minor faction gear currently apart from what UI did with its custom tech

and even then it can just be acquired by anyone

so the solution is something that doesnt exist

even our ships rn are obtainable

via wreckyard console

[abstract pewter]

this

[abstract pewter]

RSC ships are fine to be on the blackmarket

which rn is scrapyard

up until you have more content that allows for your ships to become restricted

[mystic fable]

soon................................

pineapple is making minor faction roles

[hearty chasm]

@abstract pewter @solemn birch
sorry for the ping but what's your opinion on having the RSC warlord suit spawn only inside RSC ships when they're bought

[hearty chasm]

i saw

its peam

tho idk when merge

[abstract pewter]

I'd limit it to one and have it removed once you guys properly restrict it

but I'm pretty sure other maints would disagree with me

so

don't take my voice alone as granted.

[mint veldt]

stealing multiple sets. robbing you blind.

[solemn birch]

yeah sure

[hearty chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/high-cortisol-cortisol-cortisol-high-cortisol-spike-annoying-orange-gif-5824558491752228689

[solid cloud]

lowest cortisol corsair smh

[mild swallow]

lowest cortisol corsair is our silly moff aka @hearty fern

[mint veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-joestar-king-von-king-von-johnny-joestar-anti-piracy-screen-johnny-joestar-tiktok-sticker-netflix-gif-15496977903175842722

[kind saffron]

would scratch be welcome to the rsc

[proven lichen]

Are you Scratch?

[solid cloud]

yes

[proven lichen]

Noted

[solid cloud]

@ashen crag make the rsc role chop chop

[ashen crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-been-summoned-berry-mint-gif-26570751

[kind saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/shivering-dog-shiver-me-timbers-shiver-me-timbers-dog-gif-23060744

[glad rivet]

@kind saffron Scratch having "EVIL" in their discord bio is a good point tho